Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Ali Macofsky And Jenna Jiménez Get Lucky

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

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I would just like to say for everyone watching, I look like a leprechaun not by choice, okay? But because once again, today the theme was wear green at St. Paddy's Day. And you know what I did? I went all out. My socks. My shoes. The egg that I laid. I'm green.

I'm green. I'm green. Can I tell you what I wore yesterday? Green pajamas. We should all pinch Kalila. I might like it too much. Oh, that's cute. That is cute.

Were you one of those girls who would like wear green underwear and that's a someone's like, I'm going to pinch you, you're like, pinch here. Got you. I'm wearing a pink or a green thong. So Jenna and I were hanging out last week. Jena off by my choice. Yeah.

Forced. Forced. Forced work, forced labor. I said, I forgot what body part we were talking about. But I was just like. Oh, man. Man. There's certain things I just don't look at right now, right?

She just doesn't look at. And Jenna thinks that's crazy. And I think she's crazy for thinking that's crazy. No, let me tell you. Because I feel like you're about to agree with her. No, I'm about to agree with you. I have to look. Esther.

Wait, why are you? What part aren't you? Or what parts are you avoiding? That you're not looking. It's like, oh, this thing on my, she just doesn't look at it. And it's like, it doesn't exist. But it's like important parts of your body, like your breasts. It's like I'm not looking at my tits all day long, but if I'm not going to be like,

they don't, I can't, they don't exist. And then it's like I was talking to Esther about it and I took a picture of her because this is what her face looked like. Wait, what part? What body part are you avoiding? A lot. I remember, but that's on you to say. You can say.

She said that she does not look at her vagina. Oh, during pregnancy and postpartum, I'm not, yeah, I'm not looking. Okay, well, it's not about not seeing. Esther was like, I will not look. And then her tits, this is not just about pregnancy. You don't look. You never look at your tits. No, I do when they look good.

That's not true. Because your breasts looks great. Your breasts, your breasts look great now. And they have looked great since I've known you. And you've always been like that. No. I have a follow up question for you, Jenna. Are you looking at your body parts in the mirror?

Just like when you're lying in bed, like, oh, there's my boo. Oh, like just like if I wake up in the morning I'm brushing my teeth, I'm naked. I see it. I'm not like looking in the mirror. Yeah. Okay. But I have adopted, like, in this pregnancy, I'm like, I will not look in the mirror, brawless. Out of sight. Out of mind. Like, I'm just not going to do that to myself. I don't like what is happening. And I, the belly is very hard for me to, it's getting hard for me to look at too. She doesn't look at her belly and she doesn't touch it. Guys, she doesn't touch it. I could imagine it would be, like, freaky. Killilah's eyes. Listen, I don't want to judge you because I've never been pregnant, okay? So I don't want to be like, this is how you should be with your belly. but I do find it to be extremely strange.

I go to her house. She has me touch her belly, me touch her legs, and then she's done for the night. And I'm like, oh, have you, can you feel that? And she goes, oh, no, oh, another thing. I don't look at my belly button. I don't look at my belly button. I'm like, well, have you touched your, have you touched your belly?

Are you just swamish about it? Yeah, I am. Because, you know, I will say the belly button thing makes sense because like when your belly gets stretched out, Like my belly button was so tender to touch because it was, you know, being stretched out of painful. Did yours go inside out? Never.

Mine didn't either, but I feel like we're getting really close to. No, I thought so too, but it stayed. It stayed. It hung in there and it never popped. It makes me really squeamish when they go out. They go out. This, I can understand. Really?

Yes, but you got to look at your virgingins, I feel. Even before Esther was pregnant, all of this is true. Because you got to know what's going on in there. Maybe you have some discharge hanging out. Maybe you're not washing it properly. Yeah, it's true. I will say it is very hard to look at your Viginjans after, like, a certain trimester. I'm like where, I haven't seen, I don't know what my bush looks like.

I have not seen mine since before then. Why do you need to look at it? I don't know. Like, with a mirror? No, now with a mirror. But if you're looking from the top, you're only seeing like bush and linch. Okay, but she won't even do that. Well, I can't.

She actively is avoiding. Yeah, I am. She actively avoids looking at her tits. her belly button, her belly, her vagina, her thighs. It's like, at that point, what are you looking at? Your ankles? My ankles are beautiful. I will not look at my vagina until I'm probably like four to six months after I have the baby.

This is understandable though. For me, I'm like, why would I want to see it? That is a very squeamish thing. I will say like. I understand. That makes sense. And then it gets, and then it goes back to normal. But it's like, I don't need to know what that looks like.

You can feel for it anyways. And I'm not talking about this, Esther. You know I'm not talking about this, okay? I'm talking about even before this. Really? First off, Esther has reached for my tits since I've known her inside my shirt in college. However, if she's like wearing a bra even changing in her house years ago, okay, this is not when she's pregnant. And I'm like, oh my God, your tits look so, ugh.

That's true, actually. Oh, like, what's wrong? I don't know. What's wrong? I'm just squeamish about my body. I get that. I get it's just hard to the transition is so fast. I'm not talking about the transition. I know, I know, I know, I know. But you know what you should do. You should do like a sexy boudoir photo shoot. Look at her face. Look at her face. Why are you saying that? As like a body positivity. Wait, wait, wait. Let's talk about this. You are paying more attention to your body and everything that you're deciding to ignore than if you just saw it. I don't like my body when I see it. I'm just like, yeah, what's up? Good morning. That's how I feel too when I look.

at myself like when I'm really full after dinner right before my my my nighttime shower I look at my body and I see my tits hang I'm like oh how silly why I honestly I'm like this is so silly do you ever go to the Korean spa no you got to get naked around a bunch of people look at her yeah because once you see everyone's naked body you're like okay thanks I'm silly right I get naked around herself okay so this is not happening it's dub it's like misogynist or whatever like milgease I'm like, I need to love what I'm going to see or I am not going to see it. Oh, good luck when you're dead. I am simply not going to see it.

In 2026, two goals, boudoir, sexy photo shoot for you in Korean Spa. I think those two things will like change everything. You know, one time my friend had a full boudoir session and she decided to send it to the group chat and I, even though I was like fully supportive, I was like, oh my God, amazing. You look hot. I didn't love receiving them. No, I don't think they should be for anyone. They're just for you.

I know. I'm like, why is this on the group chat? It's so corny. It's like, oh, look at me in this weird-ass fucking laundry. And they always have you do like the arms played out with your ass all in. And it's like the angles. And I'm like, I don't feel like this is group chat material. Actually, you know what?

That's a lie. I was going to agree with you. But one of my friends in my high school group chat did one of those things sent it. And it was bomb and everyone was like, yes, bitch, go off. That's why I'm glad I don't have friends from high school. I'm not in any of these group chats you speak of. Wait, okay, I saw this TikTok and I'm so disturbed. I need to talk about it with other women.

I'm so happy this is happening today. This woman is like, I was talking to my friend. And, you know, when you have your period, you're either a girl who scoops or doesn't scoop. Oh, I've heard about the scooping. Is that like when you're wiping if you see? I had no idea what it was. Like it's a scoop it out. What it is?

Basically, she's insinuating. that if she has her period in the morning, she wakes up on the toilet and like digs in high up. No. And scoops, not in her cervix, but near it, scoops everything out so that then she doesn't bleed all day. No.

And then all the comments were like, no. Well, there was that one TikTok, I think, right around that same time where the girl goes to her gynecologist and the gynecologist is like, do you want me to scoop? And she was like, what do you mean? And because she got a pap smear when she was on her period And she was like, do you want me to basically like do you a favor and just scoop it out? So you're not like, you know, bleeding.

You don't have your period. You don't have your period. So it's a real like medical thing. Yeah. But I personally have never scooped. But I do understand if I was a heavier bleeder with like big like clots that I would maybe want to scoop. I would scoop for a special occasion. Yeah?

Yeah. Yeah. I would get scooped for something special. Like going to McDonald's. Yeah. I never considered this was something you. could do. I've never heard of that. This never crossed my mind. This is crazy that I've never heard of this. Yeah, I know. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So you know what? I decided I don't like it. Because you're

exposing yourself to way too much bacteria for why. Like, why do I need to go? That's not a sterile. That's not a sterile site. I just don't know how you could yourself scoop it out. Could you come over and scoop? Sure. I can attempt a good scoop, I think. I feel like I'd be good at a scoop. Yeah, you have really good like thin long fingers yeah sinewy but do you think it's like okay to do it doesn't seem comfortable

but whatever toilet paper going up is she doing it with toilet paper what pisses me off more is when girls wear tampons when they wear thongs so they don't get the discharge I've done that and I'm like what are you doing to your body

with no period yeah no period they just put it a dry ass tanpon as I will publicly come out and say I am a bacterial vaginosis queen. Yeah. BV. BV. Yes. BV. Yes. And as a BV queen, there have been many times where I'm like, I do not want to have to discharge all my underwear, so I will be wearing a tampon.

Wait, see, for BV, that makes sense because you don't want it out of you. You want to contain it. But I feel like the only people doing this are people who probably have BV. Why don't you want to contain it? No, because I feel like with women of you, like you get a little goopy and, you know, you know, Yeah, it gets real wet down there. I can't believe you're hanging in there with this conversation. I can't believe you're still here. You usually run away by now.

I can do this. It seems just very drying to me. I just don't see how that helps BV. Well, it doesn't help it. It's like a band-aid. So that way I don't have to change my underwear every. Yeah. Whatever.

This I feel like I actually understand because there's moisture. There's moisture. And there's a lot of discharge. However, if there's nothing, it's so bad. No, that would be horrible. Yeah, because even on like a light day on my, period. I'm like, I don't want to put a tampon up there. Same thing. You have to pull it out dry.

I free bleed. I'm just like, I'll lose three panties this month. Who cares? No, I'm keeping those panties. You don't bleed. Yeah, I feel like that's too. I have no blood. I don't bleed heavy. My periods aren't strong. But I get horrible migraines. Oh. There is no one on this planet who I think reads like less of a Disney adult than Ali Mikovsky. And yet there has been a reveal recently on her Instagram, she identifies as a Disney adult. I'm like, I'm open about this. I'm a cool Disney adult. I don't

have like, I didn't know that those existed. What do you mean? This is so cool? Or just I know anything. It's like a very millennial. I said a cool. Okay. A cool one guys. Okay. Yeah, we attack her too soon. Yeah, sorry. I have friends with Disney passes, the little key thingy on the back of their car. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not even like that. But I just fucking love going to Disneyland. I think you know what it is? I think it's because I don't like exercise. I don't like walking.

And Disney is a place where I can be tricked into a healthy lifestyle, despite what I eat there because I am eating the nastiest things you've ever heard of. But then you're walking around to see goofy. But I'm getting 20K steps. What else am I doing that? In New York. And guess what? It's cheaper to go to Disney.

Is it? Do you like going to Disney? Hardly. Hardly. I've only been to Disneyland three times in my life. I've never been to Disneyland. One of them was Grad Night. Yeah, you have.

You went with Beth and the kids. We didn't go into Disneyland. You just went to the hotel. I was nannying, yeah. We went to build a bear. Fun. And then we just went back to their hotel room. And then I stole 10 towels from the hotel, and I still have them today.

Wow. I've been to Disney World. Is that the one in Florida? Yeah. When I was like 15, I went with me. With my friend, Trey. Would it be so embarrassing? I really wanted to go on like a birthday trip to Disney World and do like a weekend.

Is that embarrassing at my age without children? Do yourself one better. Go to the Disney in Tokyo. Ooh. Supposed to be the best one. My sister worked there. Because my sister was Disney Princess. Who was she?

She was the Little Mermaid. Oh, are you kidding me? No. No way. I think I just like have been going to Disney since I was a kid and then I got in free when she worked there. And so it's like, you know, it's nostalgic. It's fun. Explain him more to me because I don't really understand.

Well, I realized I just went with Sophie Buttle who's Canadian. I love her. And I think like I think like, I think, yeah, I think there's like propaganda in the U.S. about Walt Disney. Like I think like everyone just grows up like knowing about this man and like how great. Disney is and his like achievements were and I could tell she wouldn't say it to me because she's very nice but I could tell it just wasn't doing anything for her because they just don't have like Walt Disney in Canada. Wait this makes sense I grew up without a TV. Yeah what? Esther you can't just be learning this. You're a non-screen time baby? No I had like screen time at my nonny's house on the

weekends. It wasn't like I wasn't allowed to watch TV. I'd watch TV at Lily's house. It just wasn't available at my house. I grew up glued to the TV. My mom had a small black and white screen in the kitchen like this big. Yeah, that's so cute. And I would hear it going to bed every night. She would watch Saturday Night Live. She would watch... Every night. It was on. No. She would watch Saturday Night Live like, what's the one where you guess things? Jeopardy. Jeopardy. Jeopardy. That one. And there's something else where it's like friends. Yeah. And just hearing those shows, I used to tell her, like, can you please do stuff in the kitchen so I can go to sleep? Oh, you're like hearing something around and like awake. Yeah. And now if anyone makes a peep.

I think a kitchen TV is so sexy. It was cute. Kitchen TV is a glam. What were your shows you were like glued to? Everything Nickelodeon. Oh, Nickelodeon. I knew Nickelodeon because on Saturdays and Sundays I would watch Nick at night. Clarice explains it all. Are you afraid of the dark? Yeah, Nickelodeon really. slapped for me. Cat dog, lonely little old cat dog. Fully raised me. Fully had no interaction with humans, my whole childhood. When you would come home from school, would you just put on the TV? Yeah, yeah. And then my mom would serve me. Whoa, that's really nice. Oh, Colahos making a face. I didn't have a lot of free time, you know. You're out in the farm, working manual.

I didn't. We're up early like 4 a.m. to swim. I had Sundays off. I had Sundays off, but no, I couldn't come home from school and, like, watch anything. But I did watch a lot of television. It was just usually, like, on Sundays. But I was very up to date because some things didn't make it to the Philippines. Like, I don't know what the fucking cabbage patch kids are. I don't know some of like the... That's, like, older.

Yeah. There's certain things that you guys talk about where I'm just like, I don't know what those... I know what they are, but I didn't watch them. But we had, yeah, we had cable TV. So I watched just about everything, you know? Yeah, I would like come home from school. no one would be home for whatever reason and then I would just like put on

Oprah which would lead into like Mori or something like that I was already I was already testing who the father was I was in the United States already at the peak of Jenny Jones and Ricky Lake Oh yeah those are my favorite Those are my girls

Yeah What trashy ones? Yeah I would watch like trashy shows I mean I would watch Montel McNotchos Montau would watch Mori I would watch All of them. Yeah.

TRL. They don't have. Mean Girls Club. Bad Girls Club. Bad Girls Club. Yeah. Bad Girls Club, I watched. Wait, TRL.

I do remember that. Do you remember the box? Where all you would watch was music videos. The Box? It was MTV, The Box. No, no one? Yeah, it's ringing a bell. Okay.

I mean, I know the music videos. I don't know the name The Box. I watch all the VH-1s. Like the shot at love with Tila Tequila. Yeah. Brett Michael's one. Oh my God, rock of love. Rock of love.

God, I miss reality TV when it was pure. In violent, did you watch endurance? I didn't watch endurance. I would have. It would have been right up my alley. I wish I had known about it. Jenna was on a reality show when she was a child. What?

And she was on two seasons of it. What? What? What show? It was called Endurance. It was like Survivor for Kids. That's so cool. And I was out of control.

What? Oh, my God. Is it not great? Is it like fans from it? How can I watch this? I don't even know how to watch it. The fans know how to watch it. Where to find it?

It's got to be on YouTube. It's about it. No. They have games that they do with their each person. Where was it on? Discovery Kids. Oh, my God. I was going to say it.

Or maybe it was on the first season was on NBC. And then it was on Discovery Kids. Wait, where did you film it? Oh, the first one was Catalina Island. Oh, fun. It was off of Catalina Island. Yeah, like probably on the backside or something. Back of cat.

Yeah, it was like seemed deserted. And the second one was an island off of an island in Mexico. Wow. No one there. The two people we had watching us are chaperones. They were this cute couple from Hawaii, who I still keep in contact with. They were like scorpions biting kids. We could do whatever we want.

You take the paddleboard out to see. What the hell? No one's watching you. Oh, my, that's terrible. But then once the host comes and once they start recording, then the camera crew comes and then the host comes. But before that, you're just like melting in the sun, 118 degrees. That's so cool. It was amazing.

And Glenn Powell was on it. Oh, yeah, that's how I met him. Oh, my God. He made it one day. And my theory is that that is why he's so successful because he just holds on to the fact that he's, He fell off the rings the first day. Yeah. And so he really pushed the rest of his life to have success.

Did you want to be like a child actor? Or was this just like a random thing that happened? I was. You were. I actually didn't want to do this initially. I was like, I'm not doing this. So I thought that when I did the audition, if I just acted like whatever, that they would not cast me. And they're like, we need the whatever girl.

And so, but yes. So because of that, I think they thought that I was going to be like really negative and drama filled. Yeah. Because I was like, I don't know, whatever. And then so the first day we get there, the host, J.D. Roth is like, so Jenna. Do you like surprises? And I was like, yeah. All I wanted to do was hang out with the friends I had made there and then win challenges. But I didn't care about like scheming or talking about the challenges or planning. Luckily, I had a really good team partner, Max, because he just planned everything. I was 14 on the first season. And then I got voted back in the second season by the viewers. She was literally the fan face. It's so sad. Would you ever do Survivor?

No. Why? Guys, I'm allergic to too many things. I got too much health stuff going on. But once you're out on the island, it might heal me. I think it will because you're going to be like, you know what? I can trust my body. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay, so Esther's going to take sexy photos of herself. You're going to go on Survivor. No. What are your goals is here? I don't know. Wait, I also was going to say we should do a check-in. Yeah.

This is a very, like, family-style episode. I'll go first. I'm not well. Are these real chocolate or no? Some of them. You have to bite into them to see. Let's go around. Who has complaints?

Who has feelings? Who has goals? Yeah, those are real. Gold. Wow, that really killed. That was great. You never know. I have beefy.

right now. The doctor made me do my own. I always have BV. Wait, do you have you checked for a muria plasma or mycoplasma yet? No. Because those are usually the culprits of chronic BVs. Really? Yeah.

So I would check with your... What do I do? Some doctors don't even mention it to you. And it's just in the last two years where Esther and I have been like, whoa, this is a thing. It's like you have to like know someone to know about it. A question. Do you have an IUD? Oh, I'm raw dogging?

You hell yeah Do you ever have an IUD? Never. No. Never, I would never. Are you in birth control? No. We're like DV specialists.

Do you know what triggered or what? I just remember I got it in high school and I remember going into my stepmom and dad's room crying, going, I need to see the doctor. Okay. I have a lot of discharge. Were you already sexually active? Yeah. I'm wondering if something through your microbiome off and it, I mean, because that's what happens with our guts, right?

Like people have gut issues forever because it's so hard. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just, I'm always leaking. I'm telling you. She's leery. She's soaking away. Yeah. What protocol are you on right now?

Well, she gave me antibiotics, which I'm like, whatever. I know this shit's coming back. I don't, I didn't even check. Is it boric acid? Have you ever tried boric acid? No, I've done boric acid. That's like such a temporary fit. Yeah, it stops working after water.

But then I got this natural one. It's like, where did my chocolate go? I got this natural one that's like eucalyptus. Wow I got this like natural boric acid suppository That's like eucalyptus And so when I put it in it just makes my Could you smell like tea tree oil

Oohhoo Okay tea oil is good Antimacterial But it doesn't do anything Anyway We're gonna figure this out You have three doctors right here Okay great

Abbe they made me do my own swab Like you went in and swam I went in I was very thorough You go like that and then you break the stick off Yeah it was fun It kind of pisses me off though I'm like, you do it.

Doctors like, this is, she wouldn't do anything. I'm like, can you give me a breast exam? She's like, why? I'm like, because I don't want you to touch my boot. I'm not a purper. I'm not just like trying to calm this doctor into like groping me. I'm like, just do a breast exam.

Well, I also feel like doctors really do not, gynecologists do not give a fuck about BV or like those kinds of issues. It's really frustrating because it used to be like the standard was like there were OB. and there were gynecologists. And now the trend is like it's OB-Gyme. And so they really only give a fuck about delivering your baby and your pregnancy. And like once you have these other issues, they're kind of like, me like come in and swab yourself. Like they just, it's just not really taken seriously. Yeah.

But there are urogynecologists, which I've never seen. But I'm European. No. They're urologists who also do that gynaecology, which could be a good person to see. But Clyla is right. Like you have to ask for like a more advanced swab. Yeah. And be tested for urea plasma.

Yeah. And then because because then you'll get prescribed a specific type of antibiotic that treats that. Yes. And then your partner will then also need to be checked for urea plasma because what can happen is you keep giving it back to each other. But then that can be a fix. A cure. Yeah. I want to heal your pussy.

We're going to have a juicy post-tendrum. But does it hurt? hurt at all? No. No. No. Just whet? No, just real, real juicy. That's the thing. Like, BV technically doesn't cause irritation or itching, but for me when I had it, when I was postpartum and like went through a crazy time with it, I thought it was that. And then I found out that when I went to pelvic floor PT, that those symptoms were mimicking like, oh my God, there must be something wrong. It's so, like, irritated and that was just my muscles were like this. Oh, it was your pelvic floor.

Yeah. I always had thought that BB gives you symptoms like that. It can. It can. Absolutely. Yeah, BVie can be very uncomfortable for some people. I've, I, whenever I read about it, they say that it's yeast infections that are uncomfortable. And BV.

Oh, my God, one time my sister got some sort of like yeast infection or something with her Gucci, and it was so swollen. It was so funny. It was giant, giant, giant fat, big lipsy. That sounds so cute. That's why I'm not looking for... It was hilarious. But you don't have anyone looking at your pussy for you if you need other than your guy and I call.

Like my sister, if I'm like, hey, this thing feels weird and if I think I have like a Bartholensist or something like that, she comes right over and she zooms in with a camera, takes a picture for me. She's like, this is what we're dealing with. And we just look at each other's... Yeah, I feel like you have that with Jenna. I feel like I haven't had to, but I would ask you. I'm available. Thank you. You're just so medical.

I mean, bodies are bodies to me. And anything other than that. Puddies are corpses to me. You mean nothing. They're dead. Anything other than that is just like whatever you want to put onto it. You're going to love the crayon spa. It's so amazing. They view your bodies just as bodies. They're there just. You're just meat, baby. Yeah. Don't matter. No one's looking at your curves. How skinny you are. Nothing. No, in my mind, I truly need to think that, like, if some, I've said this before, if someone sliced my arm off, that it would be like a Barbie inside and would just be rubber.

Like, that's how I have to live. I cannot do, like, this is what I want to get hypnotized for is that when I get blood draws, it's very, very, very mentally uncomfortable for me. Why? Bains. Leak. I love it. For me, I don't, I always watch and I don't mind.

the needle going in and I don't mind any part of that, but I do get worried that I'm going to pass out. That's something you cannot control because I know nurses who literally start IVs all day, who pass out when they get their blood drawn. So it has nothing to do with maybe squeamish. It's like something in, it's a built-in mechanism. I think that's really normal for humans to feel like off when something penetrates their skin. For me, it's like when the blood keeps going out. I'm thinking like, do I have enough blood in? Did I eat enough? Did I eat enough?

Is my blood sugar to get lost? Can I just let you know those blood draws will not affect you in that way? Yeah. Kalala used to come with me and I would sit on my lap. I would sit on her lap and then she would have coconut water ready for me and they'd be like actually as soon as we start the blood draw you can, if I was fasting, you can start drinking. Oh. I tell the nurse she passes out, guys. So let's just be, you know, calm and sweet.

But she has it. But it's old passing out trauma. Also, you, and you can attest this and tell her because you're a real doctor, she don't be drinking a lot of water before a blood draw or an infusion. You have to drink water. Yeah. Oh, we've got another doctor here. Tell her.

Okay, so when I went to the doctor, I, like, wanted to do everything. So they drew blood. The way you're just going like this is like. Well, I have good veins. You too. I have gorgeous veins. I have big old veins. Addict veins.

My veins are going to blow your mind right now. Really? If I show you. What are you guys doing? Let me see. Oh, yeah. Wait, but I have a funny story about veins. What the fuck?

Let's hold this. Let's get the vein coming. What are they doing? No one else is feeling what I'm feeling. No one else. You're alone. Over New Year's, I was sick. I got really sick and I had to do a show.

And so I had like a mobile IV. Do you ever do like mobile IV? I have like, does that freak you out? Blood draws and injections freak me out. So I just go like this. Yeah. And I go like, I'm going to look at my phone and pretend this isn't happening. I just let me know when all's good.

That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. But I had the lady give me a mobile IV drip before the show, and someone was like, oh, like, you're so lucky you probably get to do this all the time. She's like, yeah, sometimes I just do it between my toes. I'm like, like a fucking junkie. You're doing IV drips between the toes.

Isn't that insane? I don't do that. I don't know. I was like, you're an animal. That is a very, not a fun choice. Because your hands and feet are already so. sensitive. You have a lot of just nerves in that area that would, I hate IVs near my hands. No, thank you. Give me my AC all day. I feel like this is like a torture podcast for Esther.

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If I were from New York, I wouldn't say I was like from pickipsy or like upstate or Okay. How far away is it? Like how far away is Skokie from the city? It doesn't matter if it's one block. Yeah, no. We're 15 minutes away from each other. The difference is that she did not take the train to school.

She didn't grow up with the same people, the same demographic. Like when you are from Chicago, when you're from the city, you have a whole different life than someone. I think if you're talking to someone who's from Illinois, you have to say Skokie. I do. And I don't even care. If you're talking to people who aren't familiar with Chicago or Illinois, you say Chicago. I feel like the issue. Exactly.

Because no one's going to know Skokie. They're going to be like, where's that Chicago? Right. I'm exactly. Chicago to begin with. And I'm not trying to pretend like I'm from Chicago. I don't give a fuck. I have Skokie pride till I die.

Skokie is way better than the whole city of Chicago. And you would know it because you're always going out to eat in Skokie. You're always in Skokie. Bro. Bro, you need to calm the fuck down right now. You are always in Skokie and Pete it in. You're at places I've never been heard of. I don't even know, fuck.

Where the fuck I'm going to eat pita and in Skokie? I'm leaving. Okay. I am leaving. There is no way in hell you're going to tell me that Skokie is better than Chicago. It is. You know what Esther does when she goes home?

She stays at home because Skokie is whack. You know what I do when I go home? I'm out and about. I'm in the city. I take beautiful walks, the neighborhood. What Skokie? Like, is it just like a true suburb? It's like this parking lot. What's a demographic breakdown? Is it really white?

Oh, is it really white? Yeah. I went to high school that was the most diverse high school in the country. Oh, wow. It is not white at all. I have no white neighbor. Well, there's, it's Jewish. but it's very, very diverse.

Okay, but it's not as diverse as Chicago or Lincoln Park High School. Just because you have more of different tiny races, you didn't have a school that was like 80% not white. We might have. And no. I think that's Skokie. It looks like the 1900. It looks like Rutherford Falls.

Well, that's downtown Skokie. Oh, wow, that looks very not Chicago. Yeah. Like for someone to say, listen, I'm not trying to say, you try and claim Chicago. I don't. And I do agree with you. If you're talking to someone who does not know Chicago, it is pointless to not just say Chicago.

And I think it's different if someone from, like, Libertyville says they're from Chicago. Skokie is adjacent to Chicago. It's adjacent. I grew up also on the border of Skokie and Evanston, like. What county? Skokie and Evanston are very cool. Cook County. Okay.

So what about L.A.? Like, do you have to be from the city to say you're from L.A.? It's kind of hard. I'm a long beach, girl. If you're in Long Beach, you got to say Long Beach. I have to say Long Beach. And sometimes if I'm talking, like back when I was on like Omigal or whatever, I would just say L.A. because some people don't know Long Beach.

And it's technically L.A. County. Omigal's like when you talk to strangers online and they're usually jerking off. Oh, like those chat rooms? Yeah. Wait, what was that chat room that people used to go into? There was chat roulette. Chat roulette. Yeah, so same thing.

Okay. Yeah, it's like I'm from Long Beach and my boyfriend's from L.A. and he's from the Valley but it's like you can't it's very hard to do like a comparison from LA to Chicago But I would say you guys aren't going to get this But if someone was like

I'm from a very specific part of the Philippines called Cebu. I take issue with anyone thinking that I'm just from Manila It's a very big difference So I understand what you're saying And I'm like no I'm Sabona Don't you fucking ever get that wrong

I am not from Manila We are a very specific type here. Nothing wrong with Skokie. My grandmother lived there. Your mom grew up there when I was younger. My mom grew up. Well, my mom half grew up on the south side and then half grew up in Skokie. Would you like to retire there with me?

No. I couldn't live there. Actually, I shouldn't say would you like to? You're going to. I cannot live there. That's crazy to say it's 15 minutes from where you grew up. And for you to say you can't live there is outrageous. You know what?

You know what's also 15. from where she lives. I understand this. I'll tell you why. I'll give you a perfect example. If you live in Sherman Oaks versus Highland Park, I don't want to live in Sherman Oaks. I'm with Jenna. They are massively different.

But they're not like 45 minutes apart. Doesn't matter. Can I tell you a good example. Right now where I live is about 10 minutes away from Pasadena. But I can tell you that it is a fucking world of difference. This place where I'm living right now is very different. soulless. It is.

It doesn't... How dare you disrespect the land that you live on with this? It's like, it's just like the demographic is so different. Like, I'm sorry, but 15 minutes doesn't matter, okay? One block when I'm walking my dog is like a whole new world. A whole new world. See, Disney. And I can't claim, because it is like the line that one block is the line to a different city in L.A.

You know what's also... And I can't claim it because I'm like, if I were to tell someone I, live in that neighborhood and then they come to my house, they're going to be like, no. Yeah. You guys know something else. Gilead was 15 minutes from Canada. Completely different places. That's true.

Handmaid's tale. It was just over the border bitch. Tijuana? I love DJ. Right next to San Diego. Are they the same? Oh, you're 15 minutes? No.

You're different. Completely different. Wait, did you watch Handmaid's Tale? Yes. Okay. I didn't watch the last season. I'm on the last season. Jen and I have you watched it?

Yeah. Jen and I decided that if we were casting, like, our group of friends, we've just decided that you're Aunt Lydia. I would gladly take on. Because Colila would be like, get on the fucking floor. Do you? Get on the floor. Get on the floor.

Do you? Aunt Lydia to me. You would force feed us food. I'm the only person who knows torture tactics because they've been inflicted on to me, right? So I'm the only one who knows how to really make you. Bitches listen. I feel. It becomes the abuser.

Yeah. I become the abuser. That makes sense. Thank you. Of Nick? No, no, I would be Nick. You already said immediately you're like, I'm June Osborne.

I said. That's so pickamy. Ew. She looked at me like that when she said it. Honestly, I was a Martha. I would be June Osborne. I would save this shit.

I just think it's really funny to call anyone Aunt Lydia. To be fair, she called me Aunt Lydia first. Yeah. I feel like, you know, you would be a Serena. Yeah, I love, thank you. I love that. Wait, why, but I don't know if you would be Serena. You know, when the mother or June is like giving birth,

Serena is also doing the noises the same. Wait, Allie, who are you? I don't know, I'm thinking and I don't. You can be, um, I feel like maybe I'm, I'm, um, I'm, um, I'm, I'm, I'm the friend. The one. No. Oh, Moira? Moira.

Moira's dope. I'm like, I gotta go. I'll be a hooker for a little bit and then I'm just going to get out of here. I thought maybe you would say I was in like the race. radiation farms. Guys, but what I do know is that we would come together and we would be a part of the revolution. Absolutely not.

Maybe. See, that's why she's... I actually think I'm Aunt Lydia. How much joy would I derive out of being Aunt Lydia? Honestly, maybe she's Aunt Lydia. You're June Osborne. I'm the strippers. I like the strippers.

You're trying to back down from being June Osborne when you literally go June Osborne. It's true. I would be saving us. I would be going in. rationally killing people. I probably have a knife in this pocket. Remember that's an air pod?

You're traveling with a knife? I think it's illegal after a certain size. I always have a knife somewhere. Whoa. Okay, who else has complaints, comments on their life? Who's checking in? Jenna? I just hope that my health gets better.

I'm sad, frustrated, sad. sad not processing a lot hoping that any of these doctor's appointments can help with anything because your eye your vision changes and your one eye yeah and my heart stuff oh then maybe you are the redhead from handmade's tail

you just start rocking an eye patch I love Janine she's so great she's amazing oh yeah rocking the eye patch okay that's fine trying to hold myself accountable with goals like making deodorant goals, having a reel, trying to find rep, continuing to...

Do you do self-tapes a lot? Mm-hmm. Do you hate them? Mm-hmm. Okay. Who doesn't hate them? Some people love... I honestly felt good about the latest one I did,

and I've never felt this way. Okay. I actually love it. That's great. Like, I would be willing to show you guys, and I would never show anyone the light of day anything I've ever self-tape. Is this what was for the commercial? No, no, no, no.

This was for like a movie. But I normally feel terrible doing them. They can be fun. I think my issue is that I never have someone to read with. So it's always like, oh, what am I going to do? How am I going to find this person aside from prepping? Hit me up. Girl, don't tell me because I will.

Good. I will also help you with self-tape. Okay. She's really good. I've turned a corner. What do you mean? I haven't announced. I'm not pregnant.

Oh my God. I was like, oh my God. I had one really bad day and think like right before the turn of the new year or maybe right after the new year. And I was like, I'm so fucking over myself. I'm so over complaining. I'm so over feeling this way. I've turned a corner.

I'm committed to feeling joy. You really seem like it. I am. You'd be surprised. I am so just tired of fucking complaining about shit. I really, I'm committed to like feeling joy. I don't think there's such a thing as like sustained happiness but like finding it in every single day no matter where whatever whatever it is even if it's like shit I don't want to do I'm like let me find it there's a lot of good stuff everywhere yeah I'm such a fucking negative Nancy sometimes and like postpartum's really like put me in like a state of just like extreme fatigue that it was hard to find like places of like but now I'm like okay you can laugh you can smile and feel

be a light again so I'm gonna not if your aunt Lydia no no no no can you share examples like of how this has been working yeah I'm choosing to just kind of laugh about misfortune instead of just like if something bad goes wrong in my day let for instance on my way here um didn't have my keys to my car I mean I had my keys but my new car wouldn't turn on and I was like ha ha how funny I just fucking spent a shits on a money like you have a new car I got a new car and you didn't tell me about It's just a little bigger. She traded in for something bigger. Yeah.

Anyways. But yeah, I'm committed to finding the joy in small silly things again because I think I wasn't doing that. Well, that's the only way to stay alive for sure. Yeah. That's my little update. I love that. Positive.

I opened a piggy bank. What? I had had a piggy bank since 2022. And I would only put large bills in there. So like whatever I get paid by like a comedy club and I I get like, you know, $100 or $50 or whatever, I would just put the large bills into this little piggy bank. And the only way you can open it is like, you have to crack it open. Wait, let's guess how much is in it first.

Yeah. How big is a piggy bank? So it's like a square box. Yeah. Okay. And I've had it since 2022. And, you know, I was getting stressed about some bills I had to pay. So I was like, now's the time to open it.

Hopefully there's enough in here to. you know I did that two months ago with my coin piggy bank you remember and I you go to the bank and they give you the sleeves and you have to fill the sleeves with on your own they don't do it for you and why don't you just go to the thing at the grocery store where you just dump they take money from you like how much like 10 bucks but all I had in there was 64 dollars wait what do you how much I guess what's your guess if it's here was my guess before I started my guess was like I don't know maybe a thousand dollars 2020 you said?

Since 2020. How can we have a guess? I know. I have no idea. Because this size. And it's only big bills. Yeah, but it's like how many times is she getting paid? I have no idea.

Then I think my boyfriend thought maybe around like $3,000. I want to say like $2,500. Okay, let's see. She's going to think too hard. We're going to be here a while. I'm not guessing because this is ridiculous. Okay, tell us the reveal. Okay, wait.

I will say, let's spend $3,000. on 10,300. Okay. And you don't want to put in, I guess. A rough estimate. $1,700. $1,700.

$1,500. $1,000. Are you fucking kidding me? No, I swear to God. Bitch, when you were counting it, were you just like... Yeah. Yeah. It was insane.

You had almost $10,000 to... $1,000. Yeah. So now I got... I ordered another one. Not to, like, be such a mommy about this, but I'm really mad yet you didn't put it into like a mutual fund.

Well, I needed, I needed it. Okay. The reason I cracked it open was because it needed to be It was emergency. If it was just for funsies, for sure. But in this moment, I was like, I have bills to pay, credit cards to pay off. So it's gorgeous.

That's pretty exciting. That is a lot. Amazing. Yeah. And it was funny, but speaking of what your goal was, at the start of the day, I was like, fuck all this fucking shit I have to pay for it and pay off

and shicking fucking. shit, I'm gonna be fucking selling my body on the street because of fucking shit. And then I cracked open the piggy bank and I was like, life is beautiful. You were like, look at God. God loves me. I'm blessed. I'm his favorite. Praise me.

Yeah, my boyfriend tried to be like, I think we were both putting money in there, no. And it was before we cracked it open, I was like, no, I offered for both of us to use it and to use it as like a fun little vacation thing. and you started putting $1 bills in there and I said, no, this is only mine. And so as soon as we cracked it open, there was like $12 in ones. And I was like, and here's yours. And the rest is mine.

Yeah, that was exciting. What about you? Does anyone else on their algorithm on TikTok having the talking vegetables? Oh, my God. I'm so sick of these FN AI. I don't have TikTok, but that sounds really funny.

Life hacks. So it's literally every single scroll. I watched the one this morning was like, rice after 24 hours, you have to throw it out. I'm like lettuce. Store me with a paper towel. Well, you know what pisses me off?

The other day, I'm taking the glasses off. You know what pisses me off? So, you know, I'll tell my boyfriend something. Oh, in the fridge, we have to put this here. This is where this goes. Put it there in the fridge when we put it in there. He watches one AI video of milk, not going. on the door and he's like babe we have to move the milk i'm like who said it me you'd rather listen

to a i than a woman yeah they don't hear you oh they don't hear you this is like classic and then they try and make believe that like they made it up yeah oh i was thinking um are you weren't never i love them and i wish i did what of you what's your favorite thing you've learned crazy oh wait but if they're teaching us things i think that's cool are but i'm not retaining Someone said one of the cabbage said don't boil me You want to blanche not boil Yeah the cabbage says You lose all the nutrients

Yeah it should just be cooked sauteed fast on high I got it's a good tip for St. Patrick's Day A lot of cabbage for St. Patrick's Day This annoys me only because I don't like half-boiled Like sort of crispy vegetables Like I like my stew soggy So I need my cabbage soft I don't need it crunchy.

I literally stop listening because I'm watching these vegetables. There's something that happens that you can't stop looking. And the raw chicken says don't rinse him off in the sink because you'll just spread his bacteria. The salmonelles. He doesn't need to be rinsed off my chicken. Yeah, do you guys want to weigh in on that, by the way, the chicken? There's such a debate online about washing the chicken or not. I rinse my chicken.

You do? I don't. I did once and then from then on I was like, fuck this. I'm just patting it dry. But any time I do rinse meat. rinse my chicken, I always rinse my sink right after, like really, really well because, you know, I'm aware of like salmonella and stuff. Also, like my partner is basically like a butcher, right? Like he butcher's like whole animals after he hunts them. So he's very specific about like meat handling.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what all the cook said is like, don't wash it. It'll just get all over the walls and the sink and you're spreading more than if you just cook it off. Yeah. Also the sponges that people just leave and the fucking sink. That's nasty. That is the dirtiest place ever is a fucking sink. What are you supposed to do? Put it not inside the sink where all the shit is going. Oh my god.

Your phone exploded. And like microwave your sponge if you need to to kill stuff or just... I would be careful with that because you're melting plastic. I just got my first microwave. Wait, that's huge. I don't have one. I just got a microwave. What are you microwaving?

Oh, the other day I microwave a pasta salad, even though it was supposed to be cold. It was not tasting good. So I ended up just microwaving it. That's the only thing I've microwaved so far. But my dad is moving to Arizona. So he was cleaning out his garage for a garage sale. And he just had a perfectly untouched microwave sitting back there. And I went through a lot of like old photos of me as a little girl. I really peaked at seven. I feel like that was my hottest. Seven was your hottest? Yeah. I was a, I was a cute little seven-year-old. A hot. Not hot, but cute. It's very pretty. It wasn't your hottest. Then look at you now. It was my, it was my most adorable.

It was my most precious. But you're hot now. Now I've got a hot. Yeah. You got a hot. Yeah. One time, I don't know why I just thought of this, just like looks maxing. I went to get my eyebrows done. You know how like in L.A. sometimes there's just things that are like ridiculous. expensive and people think they're good because it's expensive. Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted to get my eyebrows done by this like expensive eyebrow person and they truly plucked like five eyebrows off my face and we're like, that's $300.

And I truly had like $290 in my bank account at the time and I had to call my sister's crying. Like please send me. Yeah. I was like, please send me like $20 so I can. can pay this. Wait, that's crazy. The best person for eyebrows in L.A. is Marco Ochoa. I will say that now. He's been doing my brows for 10 years. I haven't done them in two years, but he does them so much. He does them in such a way where like he might only take off five, but that's not the price.

Yeah, no, this is crazy. And I had messaged them like, if you need an eyebrow model, I have so much eyebrows and blah, blah, blah. You have a struggling comedian and blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, I gave them this whole spiel. This was like almost like nine or eight years ago or something. But then they still made your page. And they're like, yeah, totally. So I go in thinking I'm about to get hooked up. Oh no. And then it was full price. Wow. I would have pulled up that chat and been like you guys said yeah. I know. I was too young to be bold. I was too scared. What do you guys looks max? What's your like favorite like beauty thing? I'm in a slump. I haven't looks max anything. Oh my God. You got a look.

It's when you like trying to be your hottest. But typically, typically it's always making sure that my teeth are white. I do cross-white strips. Does make my teeth hurt or like mine yellow. Maybe you're putting it too close to the gum. Oh, yeah. I really like it burns, right? But I haven't done that in a while.

I don't know. I'm very low maintenance though because I think I'm just too lazy. I love a little bit of a like slight, slight overline. Oh, overline. with a natural color. I don't know how to overline. You'll have to teach me. Yeah, it's kind of just like fake.

You almost like just go to the tippy top. Yeah. My thing used to be a lash lift. That was like the thing that I would do. And then my eyes would always get infected. I'd always have like bulging red eyes after like a lash treatment. That's horrific. It sounds like they're sensitive.

Yeah. Well, my CSR started a couple of hours after my last lash lift. And so now I don't get them anymore because I believe that it was because of the extreme heat that they put on. Like they did like a bean bag and then they do the heat to like set the treatment. And it was so hot. And I remember telling them like, oh, that's just really, really hot. And so they took it off and went like this a little bit. They put it on.

I did tell them that it was okay. So that's on me because I was like, Jenna, this is your medical trauma speaking. Like what's the worst that's going to happen? You're going to get a migraine. Yeah, I literally, I was sitting there going, you're just going to get, I mean, if you get a migraine, then you get a migraine, okay? Like, everything's to be fine.

Why do we all do this? We all do this. Do you do this? Yeah, when I'm getting like a massage, Jenna will tell you, like, I'm getting beat the fuck up. And I don't say, she goes, how's the pressure? I said, fine. It's fine.

And I'm like crying. Like face down. I'm like, no, can you do a little more there? Can you do it there? Nope. Not me. Like, she's literally like just fucking going. And because, and then.

And then I don't know because here's the thing. I already said I like strong pressure. I just don't know what strong from this lady feels like. And I'm feeling fucked up. Like I'm being beat the fuck up, but I can't backtrack. So I'm just like, okay. They go so light on me. They're like, how's the pressure?

I'm like, it's good. And I feel nothing. And it like is just, I'm just like laying there frustrated. Because you're very small, right? They see like a big back bitch like me and they're like, we got to fucking pound her out. They see bones. Also, I feel like you don't. Do you really tell them like what type of pressure you want?

Yeah, always pretty much say firm. Firm? What am I supposed to say? Like a mattress? I've never used that. Firm. Firm. Firm is like tempera petic?

What am I supposed to say if not firm? Hard. Hard. Do you go deep tissue? Do you do like myofascial release? Do you? I'm getting a lymphatic massage. Oh, you're going to love it.

On like, when is it? Like tomorrow? Tomorrow? Will you send me the info? Yes, I need that. I'll let you know. I saw it on TikTok and I... Where are you going? I don't know.

We'll find out tomorrow. But now that I can't do... But maybe I'm going to be looking snatched. Maybe that'll be my thing. Yeah, I feel like I just have like things that need to be drained. I feel like I just, you know... I feel like I need to rip my face off. You know, I have a lady who doesn't do...

She doesn't do like traditional facials. Her name is Megumi and she just does um, guasha. And it's really great. Just an hour. It doesn't feel great. because she really like gets in there but it's lymphatic still but just for your face and neck but isn't guasha not supposed to be hard it's just like some parts but if you go across the forehead it's going to feel hard because you have bone and you know it's very shallow right i would love to do that because now that i can't do the lash lifts and i'm not going to do Botox oh i do um the sticky things what do they call frownies frownies i do frownies and i know that they work really i used to have my levens indented into i will show you pictures yeah

indented, engraved into my face. And then I did it for like two weeks. You're not supposed to do it all the time. And now I just do upkeep. Oh, cool. I have a complaint. Yeah. What is your complaint?

I have this thing, this new symptom called parisdia. I don't know if you've heard of it. Oh, this thing. It feels like I have a burning, itching rash. But if there's nothing there and it's just skin stretching. Did you have that? Did you have that? I hate that.

Those tiny little things in pregnancy that you're going to forget about as soon as a baby is out. But you hyper focus on them because they're so annoying. I mean, it sounds horrible and uncomfortable. Yeah. Like all of it. Yeah. Okay. You guys can keep talking now.

Sorry. That sucks. It does. That does. It makes you feel any better. Everyone lied to be about my nipple size going back down. Because when I got pregnant, And my nipple size is just like, fucking...

Mine went back down last time. Maybe because I'm still breastfeeding. Yeah. It's not going to go back down. Oh, for sure. I don't fucking believe anyone anymore. I'm like, what happened here? No, it's because you're still breastfeeding.

Mine pretty sure. They have to see your nipple. It has to stay dark. It has to stay big. He sees just tiny little things on the floor. He picks up just like this. It's not about him. How big do my nipples up?

It's like they're supposed to stay that way because your body doesn't know that he can see. Maybe I'm breastfeeding. I'm definitely breastfeeding. This is a girl on TikTok. Basically, she goes out of her way to practice rejection therapy. Yes. And she's like, these are all the things I did, assuming that I would be rejected, which is like, for example, she was like, ask a barista to show her how to make a latte behind the bar. And she's like, I was for sure going to be rejected.

But they agreed. And she said, yes. Approached this brand and offer my services in this way. The brand actually hired her on. So all of these tiny little things. And I wanted to ask you guys, what are things that you feel as though you maybe don't try on your day to date for fear of rejection? I don't really care about being rejected because I think I get rejected all the time. Oh, yeah.

You guys are in the industry. It's just like every day is no, no, no, no, no. But I do care about seeming icky in the industry in this sense. Something that I never do, not for fear of rejection, but for fear of seeming like. I think that I deserve certain things is asking to audition. Oh, okay. So I'm often in a scenario where someone is making a movie, they're writing a movie, they're shooting a short film.

And they're your friends, your peer. My friends, my peers. I'm not asking, can I have this role? I would never do that. But just last year, I think it was Esther, who was like, I was just saying, I thought we worked through this. Esther, I'm saying, and now I do it. Yeah.

Esther was like, you can ask for an audition. They're not doing your favor by letting you audition. Like, you're not asking for a job. So you're being like so, to me, like, that's so the opposite of your fear. You're like, can I try? Yeah. Can I make a tape for you is not asking for any favor. It's doing a favor.

It's doing a favor because maybe you're the person they need. And to me, I thought it was, I'm asking this person for a favor. And I don't ever want to seem like that. So just three days ago. I'm glad you told her. Yeah, we had a good talk about this. It's still hard, but I did the thing. Yeah.

And I did it again about two days ago. I don't know if I told you. So I have a friend who is shooting this incredible awesome movie. And another friend of mine is up to direct. it didn't even enter my mind that I could audition for this movie I also thought that it was like I didn't know that it was live action I thought it was like what's it called animated and so I connect the two of them and after I get off both calls I'm like wait a second I maybe I maybe there's a role that I can audition for and so I text him the writer and I say hey already feeling like oh this is bad and I'm

Like, hey, I'm so sorry if this feels icky and if this seems like I am overstepping or this is inappropriate. Did you preface it like that? Yes. Oh my God. I don't think you have to do that. I'm mad at you for doing that because it could have been like, yo, let me send a tape. No. And I just said, but if there's anything that I can audition for in your movie, I would love to.

And he was like, that's not ick at all. Of course. Like, it was, the response was so. positive that that is that I'm doing that thing that she's doing where she's like let me do these things that I think I'm going to get rejected for and I'm like let me do these things that people are going to think that I'm being icky and it's like no one ever thinks I'm being icky asking them if I could possibly audition. No, certainly not as like those that's your dream yeah nothing should get in not your ego not being in any even feeling icky even if it felt icky you should do it anyways

you should go for it. It might be my ego being like I'm not I'm not I don't ask people for things like I'm not getting any handouts I'm I don't know because I just think like I don't ever want to be seen as someone like that yeah I just think with someone like from the perspective like where I've had a show and I've had a movie like if someone reached out to me it was like hey I would love to audition for something I would be so like flattered and also just like they're not asking for a favor you know like they're just asking to be seen for something yeah for an opportunity The other part is huge because you're like, oh, you actually think my project is something you want to be a part of. That's so flattering.

And you would put in the work to do it. But now if someone was like, hey, can I be in your thing? I'd be like, well, that's like not how it works. No, that's different. Yeah. Now I'm stressed out. Like, I don't know how to just put you in this. It's not just up to me.

Exactly. Yeah. That's like a whole other weird. No, that's also like being delusional and you don't know how the industry works. Yeah. Or to assume that they automatically have a spot in something you're creating is crazy. It's like, okay, I didn't write this. this around this random person.

Yeah. But I just realized I have a hole in my shock. Oh, it's like a cigarette burn. It's perfectly circle. You step on one? Maybe you can get an IV in there. Yeah. I can't imagine that you fear rejection at all, Allie.

You know, funny you say that because the other day, I saw A.J. Machalka. Machalka? Macchalka. Allie and AJ? You're just saying the same thing again. AJ, AJ, Maja, Majcholka. From Allie and AJ.

Potential Breakup Song. I know what you're talking about. I saw her at the dog store and I didn't say hi. And I drove off being like, I should have just stopped and said hi because I'm excited she's going to be on the New White Lotus and I would have loved to be like, I can't wait to watch you. And I didn't. And I was like, I should have.

And it really is just mood dependent. Sometimes I think I need an audience. Like when I'm with people, I'm like very much comfortable being like, can I do this? I'm crazy. And if I'm alone, I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. You just articulated something. I feel like I felt my whole life.

If there's an audience and I'm like, it's a performance. You're an exhibitionist. I've told you time and time again. But if there's not, it doesn't seem fun. Well, you know what? Maybe it's like we need to get into character and like kind of like get out of our bodies for these things that we're like afraid of being perceived. If you're like the character of Jenna, then you can do it.

Maybe. Because if I'm the character of Allie, then I would have no problem going up to a day. I'm still the opposite. I crumble in front of an audience. Really? Catch me one on one and I am a fucking star. If I have even someone around me that knows me that could potentially perceive me, I'm like, I crumble. Yeah, I guess it depends on the scenario.

We're all fucking weird. I guess the fear there is that she's like, oh, thank you, bye, and then. I was like, I don't want to interrupt her. Like, what if I, like, don't have that much to actually say? and I just kind of am like, hey. But even that is fine. You get in, you get out. Hey, I'm so excited to see you.

Okay, bye. Yeah. I think so often people don't want to feel awkward, but it's like that's just a part of being alive. Everyone feels awkward. Yeah. Well, is it, Tassan, you guys, like, is it awkward when people come up and say,

I love your word? No. I love it. It's so sweet. I don't think it feels. Sometimes I make people do it again when more people are around me. Like, one time I was having dinner with my sisters. I was walking to the bathroom and I passed this table and they were like, oh my God, we love your comedy.

And I was like, thank you so much. Do you mind coming up to my table where my sisters are and saying that just so they know that people actually like me and that I am legitimate? And they did and it was really fun. Oh my God, that's so cool. I love that. Your eyebrows are really phenomenal. Juicy? Thank you.

I believe they charged you anything. Pussy juicy, eyebrows juicy. Well, I think it's that time. Yeah. Master's calling it. I think it's that time. I love you all so much. And I am ready to be skinny.

I'm ready to be really skinny. Skinny. I'm going to be so skinny that you guys are going to be so jealous of me. How soon will I be able to meet your newborn? I don't know, whenever you want. Really? Are you going to be weird about vaccines and like... I don't remember what I do.

Do you? Be weird about vaccines. Please be because it's flu season. So how long until people can meet the baby? I would say I don't let anyone even breathe in my direction until like three months. Three months. Because there's things like meningitis. I'm going to be taking care of that baby day one.

But you can have friends. It's like as long as they're super conscientious, which is you. You come in masks. You wash your hands. You make sure you're not sick. All good. But if someone comes in fully breathing, mouth breathing, I'm like, get the fuck. First off, no one should be mouth breathing.

You guys, thank you so much for being here. And we'll see you next week of the brand new episode. Oh, and go see Allie on tour by Jenna's Deodorant. Anything else? Bye, Eb. Go buy Ebb at Sephora. Yay. Go find it online.

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