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Are you someone that has like easy pregnancies?
We were just talking about this.
Is she?
Oh, it looks like it.
What do you mean?
Well, okay, my journey to being pregnant was not easy.
So I had four miscarriages.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
And I had to do IVF.
I couldn't really get pregnant naturally.
So in that way, kind of not easy.
But I did never get sick.
with either of my pregnancies.
That's like the biggest flex ever.
I was touring the whole time, both times.
Wow.
Yeah.
Last pregnancy, I was like at Coachella eight months pregnant playing headlined
main stage EDC nine months.
Why do people have to get so sick when they're pregnant?
There's no reason for it because there are some people who get no sickness.
It's not fucking necessary.
I completely agree.
But I also, I had like two.
I don't want to tell you.
I'd like two weeks of feeling kind of nauseous.
My nausea, everyone was like, you'll be fine.
After the first trimester, it lasted 22 weeks.
Whoa.
22.
Oh, God.
I'm like, you're a liar.
I called everyone out of my doctor's office.
You're a liar, you're a liar.
No.
Yeah.
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Should we do a proper intro?
Yeah.
Wait, no.
Will you?
Will you?
Allie, would you?
Yeah.
Welcome to Trash Tuesday.
I'm Alie Mokovsky, joined by my favorite hosts of Trash Tuesday,
Kalila and Esther.
Today's special, special guest is Alice in Wonderland.
I don't know why I'm clapping for myself.
We've got to clap for ourselves at some point, right?
Is your hair inspired by Christina Aguilera?
Yeah, yes.
No, but now it is.
Okay.
It's so cool.
Okay, I'm going to say, yeah.
I mean, it wasn't, but now I'm like, now I'm kind of going to roll with it.
It's like 90s, Christina a little bit.
I love it.
Honestly, it was more just like I didn't want to put so much hair dye on my roots while I was pregnant.
and no one knew it was pregnant.
So I just died the ends.
There's so many rules when you're pregnant.
It's like you can't eat a in Jersey mics.
Let me live.
I did go to Japan, you know.
I did too.
And I was like, you're not supposed to go to Japan?
No, well, that's all right.
And I was just like, oh, I guess I'll,
there's a sushi in front of me.
You got to have that otoro.
You got to have that buttery, that buttery part of the tuna.
There's chutoro, which is medium fatty.
and there's Otoro, which is really fatty.
And when you go to Japan and you're pregnant, you got to eat it.
Yeah.
I totally didn't.
I did.
I don't know.
I had sushi during my pregnancy.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, because my doctors even said it.
It's fine.
They're like, just don't get into the gas station.
Oh, I've been doing, like, vegetarian and vegan sushi at the moment because I've been craving sushi.
And that makes me, I'm just going to do it.
I was really strict with my first pregnancy.
I didn't do anything.
And now I'm just, like, mayonnaise.
Wait, we're not supposed to have mayonnaise.
Apparently you're not supposed to have mayonnaise.
See, I told you guys, too many rules.
There are too many rules.
I don't know.
Can't vape?
Come on.
I'm never getting pregnant.
Although I feel like I hear of so many people that smoke weed when they're pregnant.
Yeah, which is to me, not to judge anyone, but sounds insane.
My mom smokes cigarettes while she was pregnant with me.
She denies it, but we have witnesses.
And I think I turned out pretty good.
You did.
Maybe that's a new thing.
People should take up smoking.
Just a little bit.
I don't think you should be like a pack a day while you're pregnant,
but maybe like a night sick.
Imagine that would be so sexy, like having a little belly and just being like a long day.
Like a whiskey.
Yeah.
I wish.
Can I just comment upon your looks today?
Oh my God.
I'm still breastfeeding.
So the tits are glorious.
I didn't know.
I forgot that you're hot.
I fully forgot.
Earlier, two days after I gave birth,
half of my face got paralyzed.
Yeah, bitch.
You hear that, bitch.
Wait, what?
What?
This is like, you know, there's like that thing on TikTok,
the go with the list?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's like, that's top of, wait, what?
But you said your arm, your hand was all lumpy.
I was in, I was in emergency for like 70s.
Yeah, bitch.
Bitch.
Yeah, I still have scars all up my arm.
What happened there?
So I was induced at 39 weeks and I literally walked in feeling completely fine.
I'm so sorry, I had a really good pregnant with me.
And I was just like, I don't think he's ready.
You know, I just felt like it.
And yeah, I was in, they were inducing me with like the potocin and my body wasn't responding, but they thought it was.
So they were like, are you feeling the contractions?
because we think you're contracting.
And I was like, no, I feel fucking fine.
And so it had cut to two days.
They put the balloon up there.
I don't know.
I hate the balloon.
That's like medieval torture.
I've never felt anything worse in my fucking life.
Epidural didn't work on me five times, five times.
So I was just like, I've actually never told this story.
It's actually insane.
Also, shout out to the guy who put his hand up my vagina and broke my water and told me that he,
He loves my music while his hand was in there.
But he was amazing afterwards because he came to help me with the baby.
So I appreciate.
But at the time I was like, whoa, if there's like any time I want anyone to see my vagina, it's not now.
Right.
It's also so messed up to use a balloon for something other than a party.
You know, party.
Yeah, it was not a party.
No.
And so I was feeling everything.
And then by the third day, they realized that the potosin never worked.
Oh, Lord.
And they were trying to, like, I was in all these different positions.
And, like, he didn't want to cut.
Like, he was just chilling in there.
He was like, nah, I'm good.
And then because they'd broken my water, it starts to get dangerous.
So we had to just, I called my dad.
And I was like, I don't know what to do.
And he's just like, you have to get a C-section.
And then my doctor came in.
She's like, oh, your mom had a hip replacement.
Because if you, oh, you should never have done a natural birth.
And I'm like, wait, what?
What?
no one told me you no one decided to tell me this so I guess he would never have come through
so cut to the C section I don't know why I'm laughing about this we love laughing about
trauma it's like the only way I'm either I either write songs or laugh about trauma if you don't
laugh about it you'll cry yeah no I say oh this is hilarious yeah it's the funniest yeah it's the
funniest thing ever right so I'm in there and you know I don't know if anyone else had a C section
no but they like have you kind of like locked to the table and I was still
feeling everything by the way and no one was listening to me and so they start numbing me with
lydicane instead of that epidural I'm also on like a bunch of fentanyl so this is like very weird
like acid trippy for me right now and so I see the anesthesiologist and she goes like it literally
looked like a fish eye like from a movie and she's like do you feel this stabbing your
stomach right now and it was like slow motion down and I just went ah and um
crawled off the table with my feet still stuck to the table and they all had to hold me down
and the next thing I know is like there's a gas mask going over me but I was literally
clawing off the table running away from the pain and they're holding me down because I was like
fight or I guess I'm fight not or whatever then apparently I don't even remember this my husband also
was just like what the fuck is happening they kick him out he's in his scrum
in like the hole just like is my wife dying like what's going on and then um he comes back in
and they they pull him aside they go uh we're just wondering does she take hard drugs uh like meth or
heroin or anything you know you can tell us because she's reacting really weirdly to anesthesia and she
just woke up trying to fight everyone and apparently i woke up trying to like punch everyone and like
full on fight them i feel like at that point it's warranted i don't know i don't remember any
Are you a natural redhead?
Well, okay, so I keep getting asked that.
Because every time I've been under anesthesia, because, I mean, with IVF, you just, they
have to put you out a lot for some reason to get eggs and shit.
Every time it's been really hard to put me to rest.
Redheads don't react to anesthesia properly.
Yeah.
They have a harder time.
Yeah.
As if they need any more issues.
By the way, this is before I almost.
died. I haven't even like got to the worst
part. Is this in Australia?
No. Oh. I was going to say
I'm not having any babies in Australia. Are you
a redhead? No. Oh, the one. I just know
a lot. That's true though.
They ask me every time. I also
was going to say
well I mean I know nothing about anything
and I have no children and have never given birth
so God bless all of you and
I love women. But I
feel like people always have bad stories
when they get induced.
I feel like the baby
For the most part, I feel like sometimes doctors are pushing this induction.
They're like, I have a vacation coming up.
So let's just induce.
They say it's because when you do IVF and you're, you know, not 25, your placenta goes a little bit weird at the end.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was induced too.
And I think it's like higher maternal age.
Higher maternal age.
And there's this study, it's based on the arrive study, which,
basically shows that there is a higher chance for stillbirth when you have advanced maternal age
and going past term.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm talking out of my ass, but I just don't.
No, no, but you're not wrong.
There is a very...
I just think people have weird, freaky stuff when they get induced.
Yeah.
You're not wrong at all.
And I'm listening to a lot of birthing stories.
My TikTok algorithm is really wrong.
Maybe it's a side fee never to do it.
Yeah, maybe.
But, yeah, no, afterwards, they wheeled me out, and I stood up, and, like, the amount of, it was, like, that times three water, but red.
You hemorrhage.
Hemorrhage.
But I go to the nurse.
Is this normal?
She's like, yeah, you had a C-section, like, get over it, tight vise.
Where was this place?
I want to fight them.
I don't want to.
It was in L.A.
It was in L.A.
It was in L.A. at a nice place.
Cedars?
She just dismissed me and then actually two amazing nurses came to check on me in the middle of the night and I was asleep and my heart rate went up to 1.30, which is like jogging heart rate. I've never jogged so I don't know. And my blood pressure was I going down. And I told my husband like, go home because you need to be with the baby. And he's just like, I don't know what to fucking do with the baby. And I don't know what to fucking do with the baby.
one. I was like, me either. They wake me up and they go, hey, you're okay. And I think one of them
was a fan, so I wanted to be like kind of chill. And I was like, oh yeah, no, totally fine. I just
can't feel my legs. And they're like, what? They find out I've hemorrhaged. I've lost two
thirds of my blood. Oh my God. Rush me into emergency. I had a, my uterus had gone floppy. I don't know
what the fuck that means. And then I guess while I was unconscious, they burnt all my veins, trying to do
the transfusion.
Yeah.
And then for like three months, I couldn't move my arm or, like, properly hold my kid.
So it was, like, horrible.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, we laugh.
We laugh.
And then I guess I decided to do it again.
Of course.
But I think, yeah, I think it'll be so smooth and great this time.
Because now you know the plan situation.
Yeah.
That's going to make a world of difference.
Oh, my God.
I just, you know, I'd love to, I'd love to be one of those women that, like,
like sit in a bath at home and it's like easy and like amazing, but it just will never be me.
It'll never be me either.
I'm just like, give me the drugs, cut me open, make it like a nail appointment, you know,
in and out.
You know, Allie often talks about her tiny pussy.
Yeah.
Tiny, tiny pussy.
But before I gave birth, my baby was tracking large and they were like, this could possibly
be over 10 pounds, in which case we would have to induce you at 39 weeks because I,
So, and so on, I'm like, oh, my God, I probably have a tiny pussy, and they probably think this baby's not.
And then my last exam, you know, the last week before, and I'm like, do you think I can do this naturally?
He's like, oh, yeah, runway is good.
Runway is ready and good.
He's like, you got the hips, you got the body.
I'm like, okay, I don't have a tiny pussy.
Okay, but here's the thing.
Medically confirmed.
But here's the thing about tiny pussy.
A tiny pussy can expand.
It has the capability of getting large.
We all do elastic, okay.
But it's resting state.
So small.
And I got, this one says Tiny Pussy.
Oh my God.
And I'd also like to say no one's really said this to me.
It's kind of self-appointed.
Just you don't know me.
This is a title I've given myself.
I'm manifesting.
No, I love it.
I think that should be a DJ name.
Okay.
You've got the cat ears too.
Yeah.
DJ Tiny Pussy.
I would go watch you play.
That would be fun.
I'll have to learn how to DJ.
But, I mean...
Then we're ready to go.
I'll make you a little pre-mix.
Yes, yes.
And all these songs about vaginas.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
That would be amazing.
Can you share your theories about DJs?
Okay.
I think that DJs, like, get a lot of hate in the comedy world.
Oh, no.
Because, no, because...
Male DJs.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, that's valid.
Like, because people are like, what do you do?
You're just, like, pressing play.
Like, there's that, like, whatever.
And then I have this theory that that...
that only exists because every single person in the world wishes that they were a DJ.
Like, it's like this fantasy where everyone loves their taste in music and their style in music
and they want to be the ones who, like, are in control of what's being played.
So, like, I think DJs get hated on because we all secretly wish to be them.
I think a lot of male DJs do just press play, though.
Shot fire.
Would you say that that would never pass for a female DJ?
Like you actually have to be, there has to be merit behind it.
I don't know.
I've been DJing for like a billion years before it was, you know, before EDM even was a term, actually.
And so, you know, the equipment I was on and the type of music I was DJing, I had to be technical.
When you're playing a festival, you can see how someone else has set up their decks before you.
And I don't use quantize.
I don't use sync.
Quantize and sync means it keeps the track completely.
in time and it will sink with the other track, pressing play.
Okay.
And I judge.
I judge. I'm like, ooh, I will never forget.
And so now whenever I see that DJ that I know did that, I'm like, oh, I want names so
badly.
Because I don't know any of it.
I'm always like, okay, you guys are great.
Some are really good.
Like, I'll play with Cascade and I love watching him DJ.
You know, like that's a delight for me.
Yeah.
But then, you know, sometimes I'm just like, bruh, it's not that hard.
So is it like the equivalent of like auto tune?
basically for lip syncing.
I don't know, I like
auto tune, so I'm like
I love the sound of auto tune
so I can't hate on that.
We all love Charlie and she uses it a lot
and I think she's like the equivalent
of not playing an instrument.
Like for me, like if you're DJing,
there's so many cool things you can do with the decks.
Like I use the cue button a lot.
I scratch.
I do a lot of things.
My hands are very busy up there.
I have a GoPro on them.
And for me it's just like an instrument
and that's why I got into DJing
because I was like, oh, you're telling me, you can take this vocal and this beat
and put them together and make this whole new vibe, and you can do it, you know, like, live.
That's fucking cool.
And I'm a cellist originally, so I was just like.
Oh, so cool.
I don't know if that's, it was.
To be classically trained.
To be classically trained as a cellist.
It's cool to, like, look like you and be like, yeah, I play.
I didn't always look like this.
I know.
I just worked at how to do Christina Aguilur.
It formed you.
This is how I feel about all, like, all art forms, like, and dance.
I think if you want to be an amazing music video, hip-hop dancer, you should have
a ballet background.
I think that if you want to be an amazing director in film, you should, like, have been
a camera op for, like, several years.
Like, I think you want that formal, classical training.
I agree, actually.
Or even a chef.
Like, you have to be a bus boy and work your way up the kitchen.
There's actually something really beautiful to me.
this is now skipping to producing
which is a very different skill to DJing
but like I know a lot of producers
who are not classically trained
and because they don't think like that
and they don't have that
like theory they have this intuition
that is so amazing
so I can't like I can't really
I just
I'm like if you've got it
you've got it you know but I think
with me I've always also just
performed I had to play cello
in like you know when you play cello
it's dead quiet like no one's cheering and it's just like you can hear a pin drop and you're just like
oh fuck like don't fuck this note up like um which one's cello it's like the big one between your legs
yeah the opposite of a tiny pussy oh i love that yeah yeah yeah wow yeah it's just i don't know i think
like uh but there are you know look there's a lot of people it's funny i think women in this
industry, got a lot of criticism and skepticism when I know for a fact, it ain't us.
Right.
I feel like it's probably similar to comedy in some ways where I feel like you're damned
if you do, damned if you're down.
I feel like as a woman, you probably like in the DJ community, you probably have to
like work harder to like own your spot there and like be taken seriously.
But no matter how hard you work, people will accuse you of like, you know, just press
play or whatever or just like you're pretty and that's why yeah did you did either of you have to
dress down or felt like you have to absolutely not look hot yeah i had to dress down it was horrible
but i i did i purposefully did and i remember like when i first started out there was this this
female comedian who had been doing it a while and she was like really like hot and in crop tops
and i like people were like that's like so bad and in my head i'm like i'm like i can't
I would never do that.
And then now it's like, that would be so cool.
I wish I was doing that.
So cool.
Yeah.
I have a photo from like my first ever open mic and I'm wearing like no makeup.
My hair's in this like ugly little just ponytail.
I'm wearing a flannel and a zip up hoodie because I'm like, this is comedy uniform.
And then yeah, I just, I looked horrible.
Is this scary doing stand-up?
No.
No.
There's a scary DJ.
No, but like I'm not.
I feel like it's.
So, I love watching set-ups, so I'm just like, how, how?
I think it's like, I feel like.
You have to have a thick skin, right?
No?
No.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't feel like my skin is that thick.
Do male comedians just press play in their own way?
Interesting question.
That's a really good question.
Like, what is the comedy equivalent of pressing play?
And it's, like, I guess, like, hacky, like stealing jokes.
Is that a thing?
Maybe you're like low-hanging fruit.
Yeah.
Or like...
Or just like generic.
Like maybe doing like not trying new things ever.
Yeah.
And not like being in the moment.
That to me would was what it would be, which is like I think everyone is guilty of this at times depending on like what you're going through or whatever.
But like just going through the emotions and like reciting the material where as opposed to like feeling it and discovering.
But that's like sometimes like you're just off and that happens, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
But there are people in the words, that's all it is.
So, yeah, I think to me that would be pressing play.
You feel like I can't picture anyone who's like super successful who is like pressing play.
I think you can feel it though.
Like the audience can feel it.
And I think it's the same with music.
People can feel it.
I'm such a fan of live music and I can feel when someone's not there.
Yeah.
And I just zone out.
I don't know.
It's like a weird thing.
Are you kidding?
Like for me, I think of Brittany Las Vegas.
Like that was my first experience of, I know.
but it is horrible
but that was the first experience
where I was like
what is going
like what's happening
wait what did I miss
who what is
when Britney
had her Vegas residency
and I was like
everyone was so excited
and I went
I thought like Brittany
Las Vegas was like a performer
like Britney Las Vegas
that's her DJ name
yeah
but it was just
yeah
it was a really like
hard experience for me
yeah
and as a DJ
is it is it a thing
to bomb a set
oh good question
yeah but I think
if you're
a good performer, you know how to turn it around. I think I've been playing so many, so long and so
many shows. I don't even know how many shows. I've thousands at this point. If you know how to
work with a crowd, you can always turn it around. I agree with stand-up. Yeah, I kind of,
I'm like, you know, I remember this show I played in Mexico and it was like 70,000 people
and my mixer blue. And the mixer blue and the mic blue and the mic blue,
like everything blew, so I couldn't explain myself.
I didn't speak Spanish, so I was like,
you start doing the Ashley's Simshundge.
But then I just like started class.
Like you just have to kind of own it.
Yeah.
Or like if you fuck up a mix, you just go, ha ha, like at least you know it's live, everyone.
Like I think you can turn it around.
The only time where it's hard is when an audience has decided they don't like you before you get on.
But you can also turn that around because I, I know.
Notice when I see other, again, I'm such a lover of music, when I see an artist where the get angry at a crowd when they're not reacting, it, like, the negativity becomes contagious and more and more people like, well, fuck you, we're not going to fuck a move.
That happens in comedy.
Really?
I see that a lot with comics where they just go out to the crowd and it's so embarrassing.
And then what you do is, you know, like at least I'm being, you know, there's at least one person in that crowd who's traveled eight hours.
hours to see you or like has listened to your music forever so you focus on that yeah and you
focus on that person and then that becomes contagious and then like the people next to them like when
you're like oh my god like you shout out that person the front that knows all the fucking words like
I fucking love you and then like that and then the people around them like yeah this crowd's
getting fucking kind of crazy right now and then like everyone's like we're crazy listen even if
one person turns up to my show like I'm grateful yeah because like there was there was so many years
where no one gave his shit.
How long before you actually felt like, oh, like, there's some...
10 years.
Wow.
10 years.
It's like comedy, no?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When I started doing well, which was around 2015, it was like, oh, you're seeing the tip of the iceberg.
You don't know how many times people have told me no.
You know how many times people have told me like, oh, you can't sing.
We don't like her music.
Her music's not good.
And I was like, okay.
And my manager who's seen right there, he's been my best friend forever.
even before I started doing this he was my best friend and so there were times where I just like wanted to give up and I mean I still feel that way like I think like when you're an artist or like anything in the arts or creative you're putting if you're really about it it's like legit and that's your soul and you don't know how else to be and so when it's not getting communicated correctly or translating or people are caring it kind of like fucking sucks and it's a bit of like an ego death.
thing. I don't know. And I was getting teased back in the local scene and stuff because I wasn't
playing the cool, whatever was cool back then. I think it wasn't my genre. And then it just clicked
one day for people because I kept going and I showed up every day. Like literally every day,
I just showed up. And I was like, okay, well, I'm doing this for me now. And every day I would
write, I would, you know, I was DJing like seven nights a week. He was booking me.
At his, he used to run all these, like, underground clubs in Sydney.
You know, it's, it's, it fucking suck.
Like, it's hard being a creative, I think, especially now.
Everything's, like, so, um, quick.
And there's so much stuff that is distracting.
So it's hard to even poke through that.
And I think, thank God, you know, my stuff even slightly took off before it really,
like the internet really went intense.
Because, yeah, everyone, everyone's at the show still.
And, like, if you are watching, thank you.
Like, for real.
Every show I play, I'm like, you know?
Yeah.
Because I'm like, oh, people are singing these songs still.
And they're singing the old songs.
They're singing the new songs.
And, like, I don't know.
But, you know, last night I wanted to give up.
You just have, you know, you have those.
You just rotate through.
I feel like that's so normal and relatable.
Yeah.
With anything creative, I feel like it's so, like it can be so, like, self-centered, not even in like a, on-purpose way, but it's like, you have to think about yourself so much and it can become such a loop and a spiral where it's like, oh my God, I need to like talk about something else or think about something else.
Yeah.
Are we going to be okay?
What is that?
Are we going to be okay?
Yeah, we will.
I'm like worried about.
By the way, I'm like a huge fan of everyone here.
Like, I'm playing it cool right now.
But like, no, we love you.
But I'm just like, no, the whole like how the internet is now and like ruining it for creatives.
Like I'm low key a little worried about that.
I think everything comes in waves.
So I'm hoping like my kid is like in 10 years like, oh, it's so lame to have social media.
Like I just hope that happens.
Yeah.
That's what you said about doing crowdwork and why initially you thought comedians posting crowdwork was cringe.
But then you were like, you know,
I think that everyone is sort of like thirsting for a real moment in real time.
And I think that's probably what's going to happen, hopefully.
I don't know.
You know, and just with AI and everything,
I think that people are going to want to,
are going to start thirsting for real things again.
Yeah.
I hope so.
I hope.
But my friend just fired a therapist and went to chat GPT.
Oh, no.
Like that's a real.
And I was like, oh no.
Honestly, chat is.
I haven't got it.
My husband uses it, like, to, like, research things if he doesn't know about it.
Our dog was, I don't want to talk about it, but he was, like, the vet wasn't giving him
any answers, and he went to chat GPT, and he actually found out what was wrong with her,
and then went back to the vet, and he was right.
Wow.
Chat is pretty good about, like, autoimmune diseases sometimes.
I don't use it often.
I feel like my sisters are, like, Chad GPT anything and everything, and I'm like, you can just use Google.
It's the same thing to me.
It's not, but it's not, you guys, it's not.
It's not like persony.
They'll be like what time, when is daylight savings time?
And I'm like, you can Google that.
You don't need chat GPT for that.
But like last night, I went on a tear or two nights ago I went on a tear.
And I was like, I sent them photos in my face.
And I was like, tell me everything I should change what makeup I should buy, what shade I should get it in.
And it gave me a full breakdown.
I ordered a bunch of new makeup from Sephora.
It told me where to.
replace it for my face.
We didn't give you your colors.
It gave me my colors.
What did it say?
Well, first of all, I'm a soft summer.
So, come correct.
And it said, I mean, it said so much.
It said for my blush.
I mean, this is not a good example because I don't know what I was doing today.
But it said blush, high placement for me to open on my face.
You don't have the girlfriend blush, right?
Yeah, what?
There's two.
Or I don't know if it's called.
girl friend, but you can either put the blush lower
or the blush higher. I've tried
all types of ways. And to be honest,
I don't want to chew my own horn. I kind of like
blush anywhere. I like just a little bit of
color in my cheeks. I like the sunburn
blush that goes straight across.
That's what I did today. I love
it. It's my favorite. It's
I don't. I feel so bechey. But it's crazy that
it just like told you to tell you products.
It told me products. I think it's
what sets chat GPT
apart. Who's paying chat GPT? I don't know
because it wasn't like it was just all one
brand who was it it one of them was nars foundation um rare beauty tinted um tinted like moisturizer
but also rare beauty blush and the color hope i have that i have yeah but i don't really use it
sorry allie when you were asking chat gpt these questions were they being kind to you they were
so kind chat gpti loves me they're so so they like talk like a person yeah they're like hey your face
looks awesome as it is but if you want to just do a few things that's a difference that's
over the weekend my baby had a fever but no other symptoms so i turned to chat and chat was just
like oh you must be really frustrated and really worried as a as a first time mom like everything
this sounds like a therapist yeah that's why it's not google because it gives you a hug while giving
you answers it's like that that movie her or whatever like it's like that is that's that yeah what
Cyclopedia with the personality.
Yeah.
Can you like change the personality or does it just do it itself?
I think you could probably give it some notes.
Yeah.
I imagine if you're like, be tough on me.
Honestly, I have no notes.
If it does that's, it's just empathy, right?
Yeah.
That's all it is.
You guys sound pathetic.
I know, we are.
No, but I agree.
I think to your point, it's like someone I know used ChatGBT to get someone
a birthday poem, like write a poem for this person.
birthday and I'm like
do you not have 10 minutes
of your day to write this poem yourself
like was the poem good
yeah
yeah but I'm like it would have felt
better if it was like from the person
or like especially as a
comedian or like someone in a creative
field I'm like pay someone
to write a poem like there's
there's people there's poets out there
I'm sure I've met a few who are
down on their luck
because right now I feel like that's
that's my whole Esther hates this, but I thought
at one point in my life that I was
going to live as a poet. I could
picture that. Thank you, Allie. I'm glad
you didn't. I think
people should believe in themselves a little bit
more and dream bigger,
but I do think that's what Bobby when I first
got with my ex. Yeah.
I was like, yeah, I was like really being sincere.
I was like, I really think I'm going to
chase poetry. He was like,
that's not real. That can't be real.
Yeah. And he just shut it down and I never
asked again. Although if you were
a poet in that outfit, I'd be down.
Thank you. But is it any, like, famous
poets right now? There's a couple,
you know, they're Instagram poets.
Do you know what I mean, where they have the...
What's the Instagram poem?
Where you, they have like little...
Is it like spoken word or like...
It's like spoken word, yeah.
Oh, okay. I know, like from facing videos
during poetry?
That's a bit too like...
It's too vulnerable.
No, it's cringe.
Yeah, I want to read it. I don't know. I don't like it.
I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear you talk slow and
and take long pauses, even though that's how I talk.
Something about this is getting me going.
I know I can see it in your face.
I keep looking over at you and you're like,
I want to do like a cringe poem video.
Can you do it right now?
Yeah, look to camera.
And I need to rehearse.
I need to think about it.
But I think I like, I, like you, we're talking about bombing.
I'm like, oh, I want a bomb.
I fucking love it.
I think that's like a like an 80, 20 chance of bombing.
Yeah, I just, I really, I don't know.
Like I had a like a couple months ago I went up there and I was like it's all new stuff like just hold strong and it was just everything was failing like worse than the last. It was so bad. And I was just like and I was able to dig myself out like in a crazy way. But I just like. How do you how do it? It's always something different. But that time what it was so special to me was like I started hiding behind the curtain and then acted like I was calling my dad to come pick me up.
I was like, something's going, something bad is happening.
I need you to come get me.
And, like, I won them back.
And I was like, that was the most fun I've had on stage in, like, 400 years.
Like, it was so good.
Like, I don't know.
I just, I like that because it forces me to do something weird.
That's great.
I'm going to do that when I bomb a show next.
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Oh, God. Wait, you set up two friends? Two friends. They're chatting. It's starting to become a good
morning, good night situation. Oh. But it's a long distance thing.
They haven't met yet.
Where are they?
One in Asia and one here.
That's long.
They're going to meet probably soon.
I know something about her that I feel as though it's only up to her to share, but I don't know when she should share it.
And it's that she has false teeth.
She has full dentures top and bottom.
Where she's from, there wasn't a lot of fluoridated water.
And it's sort of commonplace for people to have dentures to be like, you know, we can't afford implants.
just, you know, at a young age of like 20, she had false teeth.
When do you think is the correct time to break it to the guy?
For you to break it to him?
No, I'm never.
I'm never going to say anything.
Okay.
Honestly, in my head, this is kind of funny, but like if she's about to go down on him,
it would be really funny.
To take him out.
So they come out.
They come out.
He's still getting a blow job.
Exactly.
It's like surprise, but also like, he's going to be thrilled.
Yeah, I think that, like, I think that that would be like, like, what's the girl version of Digmatizing?
Mm-hmm.
So it's just, it's all gums?
I do think it's a good idea to deliver bad news when there's a full-blown boner involved.
Because they cannot turn anything down.
They're so stupid, the blood's all left here and down there.
We'll probably forget.
Right.
I mean, she'll be like, I told you.
Oh, my God.
by the way it's just funny because we're like eating a banana right now it's like
but if I had no teeth
this banana would be kind of fine
it doesn't feel like that big of a secret to me
it doesn't because it's not like hurting anyone
Garth what would you do
I don't I'm just asking him because he's
oh you asked him I thought I was sorry I thought you were calling me Garth
suppose you like everything about me
We're really hitting it off.
I could potentially be the love of your life.
We're about three months into talking.
We're going to meet for the first time pretty soon.
The vibes are high.
Jump in.
Yeah.
I'm here.
Can everyone compliment his new glasses?
Because I've been laughing at him about it.
Wow.
What are great?
He's like, what do you think?
And I was like, you look like that guy.
And he's like, Jeffrey Dahman.
And I'm like, yeah.
Okay.
Do you remember the scenario I just painted?
From walking over there to here.
Do you still remember?
Okay, so we're locked in in love, right?
Right.
We're about to meet.
We're probably about to get pretty nasty.
At what point should I tell you I have false teeth?
And would it change your mind about me?
Your suggestion is fine and I would have no problem.
And I think no teeth on a blowjob is sounds like a great idea.
Okay.
And I think I'd be fine with it at that point.
I do think afterwards then questions would come in.
I don't think it was, don't guys get post-knock clarity or what?
whatever, like you start having all these...
Were you like a meth head?
Like, why did you wish you to take?
No, it wouldn't be a question of why don't you tell me sooner?
It would be like...
Why do you need false teeth?
But then you would ask, right?
You'd ask me and here.
My answer would be, we don't have fluoridated water where I grew up.
And a lot of people here just, their teeth like rot by the time we're like 16.
So like the UK.
Yeah.
Yeah, basically.
That's fine.
It wouldn't change your love.
But also, you're...
You're asking an Australian, and I feel like Australians are crazier than most people.
Like, Australians will, like, do anything for the plot.
I've hooked up with too many Australians in hostels and shared hostels.
Like, one tried to kill me.
What?
Yeah, I'll never go back to Melbourne.
I'm scared to.
I wanted to go back so bad for the food and the coffee and just generally I loved it so much, but the boy was too scary.
He tried to kill you?
Well, he threatened.
There was a real, like, threat.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think that's a Australian thing.
I mean, God does that every.
Guy, what's your opinion?
You're an American man.
Same thing.
It would be like a drug-related question.
But I think at that point, it's kind of, it's too far.
If the feelings are already there, then a little two things are not going to matter.
I don't know.
I feel like guys are way more superficial.
Because, like, I feel like as a woman, like, I've been with a guy with, like, a missing tooth and, like, a little pop-in.
And even then, like, I feel like I'm a very forgiving, like, non.
superficial person, but even with that pop out, I was a little bit like, scary.
Really? I love toothless men. I mean, I love this for years. I love a guy. There is this
fighter in the UFC. He goes by the name Durkin. For obviously, for interviews, he puts his
false teeth back on. But when he fights, it's off. And I think he is so incredibly attractive.
Okay, but there's a difference. Here's the thing. I've slept with a guy who had just no tooth
up top and I was into it. I liked that. No, just one front out.
Was he smiling? Yeah.
He was a happy boy.
But the part that freaked me out was the guy who had the fake tooth in and then revealed it popped out.
Because now I'm like, I'm like catfished by a tooth. I'd rather know that there's no tooth there.
I'd like to know that information before the reveal.
I feel like he's not going to really care.
What, Esther?
I feel like what does it matter?
matter. I just, I, I want to, here's the thing. And I don't think it's just about the tooth. I love the truth. I'm a big little sucker for the truth. I love knowing things. I hate being out of the loop. So I would just personally feel like, I want to know this. I actually think it's deeper than that. I think that a guy who says, look at me, I'm toothless, gives an air of confidence and like this like, I am. Is that like BDE maybe? Yeah. I think so, like big toothless energy. And it's like a bald man wearing.
a hat or not wearing a hat. I don't want the reveal.
Oh, wait, speaking of raves and, okay, this is all actually tying together.
Sorry, I'm kind of taking over the show today. I feel like I'm really kind of,
go off, gloff. Um, my third time on the show, and I'm really loving it. Um, I was on a rave
cruise. Wait, which one? I did stand-up comedy on a rave cruise. And I'm not a rave,
what rave cruise? I was on friendship. Oh, Destructo's rave.
rave crews and it was I was like oh god this is going to be horrible like I just I've never really
been to raves I didn't know what to expect I was being really judgmental I get it the moment I
stepped foot aboard ship I was like I love this I love these people plural vibes it was everything
I loved it and so there I am hooking up with a wook on the Lido deck do you want to explain
what a wook is I mean I feel like you should explain I actually am curious to know what you
Here's my impression of a wook.
Someone who's like usually sweaty, for sure.
Just like a hippie ravey.
A hippie rave.
Like the big pan, like the parachute big pants.
He had some like dreads coming down, like some loose dreads coming down.
Like some loose struts coming down in like a beanie.
It's sounding worse and worse.
Asia scriptor you get.
Put the vibes on board.
I mean, you know, I was in love with this wook man.
So we're making out and then we go back to my room.
and he's got these dreads
and this beanie
and we're making out
he's sweating
so I lift up the beanie
guess what
no hair on top
oh god
no hair on top
that's that's so much
that's no
I'm like
if he were to just embrace
that he was hairless on top
with some dreads in the back
I would have I was into the vibe
it was the vibe
but the reveal
I'm like I've been lied to
I don't like being lied to
not if the dreads
were all the way down
to his waist like a mermaid
that is so unfair to you
They weren't that far down.
They were, I mean, he was like, well, he hatfish.
To be fair, that is, like, kind of a cool, like, Shaolin look, an old, like, Shogun look to have half shaved and then the long hair.
Yeah, but I was not expecting that.
And I think, like, the same thing, like, the BDE of it all is, like, if he just didn't have that, it was hot.
He didn't need the beanie.
That should have already tipped you off.
Yeah, I guess so.
I wasn't in my right mind.
But did you proceed?
Did you finish?
Yeah, of course.
We're by then.
It just took me a minute to be like, okay.
Yeah, recalibrate.
Oh, God, I hate that.
I don't know.
I would have been.
We're in love.
This happens to me because back to the hips thing, Stella.
Not to be a shallow bitch, but I, on occasion, when I've, like, hooked up with a guy mid-hook-up,
and I see the silhouette of their body, and I see.
just a little more curvature than I thought
than I thought in his clothing where I'm like
oh my god he's got hips it completely takes me out of it
mad hips and it's so unfair because it's like they can't do
anything about it but it's it's my own personal thing of like
why didn't you tell me you had hips under there
and we all want like just the yeah give me nothing
don't compete with me is all I ask
well if a man is going to have hips then make him carry the baby
I think that's it
It's like those hips are for nothing
Those useless hips
They won't birth, they won't do anything
Colila, what if he was walking around
strutting his hips
Like he wasn't hiding
Sashing?
That I can, I've, you know me
I love, love like femme guys
Yeah
I've been with them
Yeah
So if he's owning the fact that he's just a hippie
You know I would be like
Okay cool, I don't care
Kirby? A curvy man?
Yeah, it goes back to the same thing. It's like you want to know these things up top.
So with the tooth, it's like, I don't know. For me, I like knowing things.
It's just different for a girl, I think. It's different for a girl to pick up the phone and be like, hi, my name is so-and-so before we proceed, like I'm toothless.
I think you don't say it like that. You go, so what do you know, where is she from? Asia?
Asia. Yeah, I don't want to be more specific.
you know about like Asian culture and like the water there like just kind of tiptoe into it like
oh it's so annoying like we have no fluoride in our water and like everyone's teeth are gone i think there's
only one way to do it if if it were me it would be like hey this is like huge insecurity of mine yeah
and like just be earnest about it and yeah no here's what you do okay here's the final verdict is
right here you don't say anything and you just when you go to bed you pop your teeth out and he's like what
And you're like, what?
You just like act as, act as though.
Let them, Mel Robbins.
Let them see your fake teeth.
It's kind of like gaslighting them into thinking that it was always, like they always knew.
Also, no big deal.
Would you have a problem?
Is there going to be a problem here?
Just kind of, you know.
But I will say, I'll have to give Dave credit because on our first date, he was like,
just so you know, this is what I look like when I sleep.
And he showed me a picture with his sleep apnea mask and all his tubes.
And I was like, is it loud?
No, they're so quiet.
Wait,
ours is a little loud.
Oh, that's because you haven't upgraded.
Yeah, you got to get up to the resmed.
The new ones are so quiet.
We have resmed.
It's just a different, we have, we have something a little more.
Do you also?
My partner also can't breathe at night.
Is it a gut partner?
Is it a guy?
Like, it's more common in guys.
He went and got like a physical now like you should go to.
to a sleep person about...
Yeah, sleep doctor.
Because he doesn't sleep very well.
I sleep...
It's kind of fucked.
Like, when I had Max,
I sleep through...
I think because I've toured
and, like, shared rooms
with so many people my entire life.
I can literally sleep on a floor and be fine.
I would sleep through the crying.
Oh.
And but he'd be like,
he was up all night.
Did you not...
And he...
But he will wake up like,
if I go, like,
at a text,
you go, what?
And I'm like,
like, oh, this is...
He's just like a super light sleep-up.
By the way, this is great.
It goes back to another ick of mine.
Huge ick.
I don't think men should be allowed to ever sleep
before their girl falls asleep.
No, I know.
I think that is...
If you do, like, just get out of my face.
Like, you're not a real...
It's so disgusting.
It's disgusting.
It should be illegal.
No, I kind of like it.
I'm like such a night owl.
Like, I'll be up till 3 a.m.
I've always been like that.
And since having...
having a kid, he's such an early rise I always has been, that he's up.
And then I do the, like, later stuff.
Oh, shit.
So you guys work in shit.
It's so good.
And then I also, I really like my own time.
Yeah.
So he's just next to me asleep.
I'll be watching, like, 90-day fiancé.
Oh, such a good show.
It's the best show.
It's the best show.
Is anyone else?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I watch it, like, off and on when I'm getting my nails done.
My nail gal is always watching, so I get little.
It's really good.
It's so good.
Can I ask, because you said you had four miscarriages, were those before you did IBF?
I had three before Max, and then I had one before this baby, and it was horrible, and I was in Asia, and I had to fly back.
We went to the doctor.
My mom had floated over to see me, and I was playing shows, like big shows over there, and I went into the doctor in Singapore, and they were just like, I just knew.
and like three hours later I was going to the airport
and I had just, I mean, I really was,
like I don't remember the flight back
because I was on so much Xanax laughing at joy.
What weeks were your...
That was seven weeks, so it wasn't...
But you say, oh, it wasn't that far along,
but you get really attached as soon as you find out.
And then the miscarriage, like, wasn't final.
so it was just my body kept getting more and more pregnant. And so I needed to get surgery
and I had to cancel more shows and actually like, this is also the first time I've ever said
this. But like a lot of people got angry at me for canceling shows and I was recovering
and really heartbroken and I didn't want to have to explain myself to anyone. And so
yeah, and to this day, people made TikToks about me canceling.
this show and like I every single day I'll get at least three DMs being like fuck you like
you canceled this show and I'm like I was having a I was losing a fucking baby and I had to
which is none of their fucking business exactly and so I don't cancel shows just for fun and so I hope
if you're watching this you feel really bad because it was horrible and it was horrible and to this day
breaks my heart every time I read that DM like those kind of DMs so anyway that sucked
Um, and, you know, before that, uh, you know, we had a round that got canceled just before I did.
It was just like, it's just been like a thing. Um, but my doctor's really fucking awesome.
I had a missed miscarriage too where it's like you don't actually bleed. You just go to the doctor.
Yeah. Like there's no heartbeat and you're like, dude. It's the fucking worst. They're like, yeah, it stopped growing two weeks ago.
I'm like, so I've just been sitting here with it with nothing like suffering for no reason. Like that has.
that trauma is like still with me it's so terrible i don't know and then having to like
a week later go and play new year's eve shows i was like so beat up yeah and there's been shows
where i have been going through a miscarriage and had to like i mean honestly gath my my manager
he was always like you could cancel if you want and i was like if i do i'm going to be so fucking
depressed so i have to do something so i just like keep doing things it's like gnarly like
Like, no one ever talks about it.
And then, you know, if it is early or whatever, people like,
oh, you know what happens to so many people, it's like, it's still, you're still
mourning something.
It's still like, as soon as that happens, you're like, oh, shit, like, you feel, I don't
know, you know.
Yeah.
And then you're like, what's wrong with me?
Like, I'm not working.
Like, yeah.
You feel less of a woman.
Yeah.
It's like a whole thing.
And I also, like, to have three in a row was like, no.
Oh my gosh.
gnarly. I remember Eliza Schlesinger said she was like I just felt like an idiot because I was
walking around for two weeks thinking that I still had the baby and that she put it really
where she's like everyone knew this thing and I thought that I still had a lot like something
I was still pregnant and it wasn't so it made me feel foolish. And it's embarrassing having to
tell people that it didn't work like I learned my lesson the first few times because I would
tell my friends really early and then I'd have to keep taking it back
and like oh god you know it was it's it's just i know you shouldn't feel embarrassed but i always
would feel embarrassed like oh like uh just kidding you know
l-o-l-l-l-l one of them happened on a mother's day which is also terrible
it was like fuck dude like but then you know all the if you keep when max is born i was like
oh this all makes sense now it was a weird yeah weird like closure
What do you think about?
I actually do you not?
I don't know. I'm just curious.
Oh.
I have no one.
Funnily enough, can I say his name?
Yeah.
Dylan Francis.
Oh, I love Dylan.
I love him.
He's, I've toured.
We did like a whole tour together.
I had a really, this is a weird.
You say this because two days ago, I was having a day.
and so I was like fuck this I'm going to go get like a pedicure or a foot massage and they only had 15 minutes
so I was just like can you just give me foot massage like just do it and then I walk outside I'm like
fuck it I'm just going to take myself out to dinner and so I sit there and I had ordered three different
muffins because I didn't know which one you would like so I got three and I get my like
fizzy drink because I can't have a drink right now oh maybe I can um and I sit outside like the
outside part of the restaurant and I just get a text from Dylan Francis going you at blah blah right now
I'm like yeah but myself and he comes out he's like catches me in like the most derpeiest like
that's so sweet no but I love him I actually really love Dylan yeah he's so sweet he's done
tiger belly twice he did my little interview
he's so sweet he's genuinely amazing i love him and every time he's like we're both Croatian like
and i don't know why we bonded over that but that's how we started becoming friends we're like oh
he's awesome i just fucking love him and we also in Vegas with him this weekend so we i just
i've seen a lot of him recently yeah we were in we were in Vegas this weekend wait were you no
because you looked at me wait should we go to a Vegas wait you should come my my my
last residency of the year in September and I'm going to be like I'm not even allowed to travel but
I'm playing the show where I play it Zook okay let's go if you guys want to come you can sit at the
table you'll get they look after you it's very late though okay Clyla I think this I you should go
I know I'm really your poster I'm not even joking if any of you want to come I'm not even
going to try you're like my husband he's like I'll come to Vegas but I'm going to
to sit in the room and all that's what i do we could do that too we could go to best friend at the mgm
shout out roy choy shout out roy choy we love you we love you so much i love always wanted to eat there
come on we can come on september and it's so fun and it's my birthday hey when september 8th you're the
you're the seventh garth gargars kallela will you sign this out alie oh yeah i feel like you need my
glasses. Oh my God, I would love your glasses. To add to the vibe. Yeah. Okay. It's DJ
Ali Makowski here saying thanks for watching. Say the real, what's your real DJ name?
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