Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Chaotic Y2K w/ CRISTINA MARIANI

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

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Welcome, Christina Mariani. Welcome. You have a new face. Christina is a comedian. Mm-hmm. Are you like a comedian that's famous from Kiltoni? I don't even, I don't think I'm famous. I've been on Kiltoni a few times, but.

Was he nice? to you? Yeah, he was pretty nice. Okay. I mean, I've seen how mean he can be, so I think he was pretty nice to me. Yeah. Welcome to Y2K. Welcome. I think I'm really struggling with Y2K. Why? You're perfect. I know that this is like my prime, right? Like, this is when I was supposed to have been thriving, but I don't know if I ever wore this stuff. This is Gen Z version. Like, she, that sure is right

to me. Yes, that's correct. I just took it from your guys this pile. This isn't what I Shut up. And Jules, what is this? Oh my own version of Y2K. But do you know Y2K? I just know the skinny jeans where it's like, it's almost like... Low rise.

And low rise where it's almost to the bush. Yeah. Gobi took his shit. Gobi! She never does that. Gobes. Oh my God, are you anxious? My poor baby.

I know this is traumatizing for you. No, it's not. I've been watching Whitney's dogs, and I feel like maybe there's something that I, dogs just shit. Her dogs have been shitting nonstop, too. Wait, you mentioned that yesterday because they shit around you and they normally don't shit. They don't, they don't. And I'm like, is it me? Am I the, my anxiety makes them anxious, you know?

Oh. She literally is so housebroken that she has not shit inside in like eight years. Maybe I have, like, it's like. Sometimes the lights and like the podcast, like, Donut is a weird. in here, too. Oh, my goodness. It's so embarrassing. Oh, you guys are shaming her.

Wait, you know what's crazy? So we went to the pet store a couple weekends ago as like an activity to look at the fish and like just whatever with Ace and donut. And they had this costume for dogs there because it was around Halloween. And it was like a jail, you know, the striped suit. And then like you could put a necklace on and say like what your crime was. I'm like, we have to get this. because Donut has been scratching at the door,

waking us up, she's like a villain. She's in her villain era. And then Dave's like, I don't believe in publicly shaming our family. I'm like, it's donut. And he would not publicly shame donut. But she's not going to know. I feel like she would know.

Yeah. I kind of agree with Dave. Really? Yeah. It's sweet, but is it one of those things where you keep like the shit talking within the family? Yes.

It's like these are safe things to say. like to my sister, to my mom, but you don't let it leave, like, the inner circle. I don't know. Do you think it's okay to publicly shame an animal? I don't think it's, like, put a kick me sign on the back. I'm kidding. I would never do that. But I'm just, that's what I thought of when you said the sign. The sign. Yeah. That would be bad. I don't think anybody would like you if you did that either, you know? They wouldn't like me. Because like a dog, what are they doing that you're like publicly shamed?

them for you know but they don't know it's just a cute photo Dita Bobby always calls our other dog like really really stupid and I get so mad at him yeah because I feel like stubs listens and knows what's what's stupid you think yeah it's like that Japanese study with like water right I hate this so much I just it becomes what you say they become what you say so it's so do you believe that you can like heal with your mind I think you like Western medicine supports that idea that if you have a pretty good attitude about your prognosis, like stress and cortisol and adrenaline and accumulation of all of that, like,

will alter your outcome. But if you have like a positive prognosis, I think there is something to be said about that or a positive like outlook. Okay. Donut is perfect. She's not a criminal. She's a normal dog who likes a scratchy scratch. And just got to think about it like that. I do love her and she's my child. And Kobe, why did you take a shit in front of all of my friends? Ooh, see, you're not over it. I'm over it. You know, she's just a little nervous and shy.

It's okay, buddy. Christina, were you disciplined as a child? Mm-hmm. Really? Like, how? I mean, were you guys not? Oh, I was. I was in like, but then I grew up in like not America so that shit was allowed.

Me too. I grew up in Italy. Oh. Where did you grow up? Philippines. Oh. Okay. Her Philippines, too.

So we got, you know, the typical, like, head to toe, like, lashing. Oh, cool. Me too. Me too? Yeah. Italians and Asians, I think we get along. I think that actually explains a lot of, like, your demeanor. Yeah. I seem like I've been beaten.

You know, I have that. But she has that, I have that. Like, if you see us, like, walking in the street, like, I can tell who's been beaten. Really? Because you guys, you guys, you stand a little too straight. There's no, like, fear in your heart. I'm like, she hasn't been struck once in her life. It's true.

You can tell because the people who haven't got beat have the audacity. They do have the audacity. I've got it. I've got the audacity. And I envy the audacity because I don't have the audacity to like tell off a bank teller. Oh. Or like talk shit to spectrum. You do.

Okay. So a few weeks ago we were talking about how like I don't have anger. And so I've been trying to like find the places in my life where I get the rage and the anger. And I'm like so I'm picking up on it. And it's like when a male worker talks down to me. like at the TSA, he was like, and I literally was like blood pumping, like wanted to find him afterwards. Like I've been thinking about him still.

Like I want to fly back to Portland and be like, you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. Like I want to go off. Like there's something about a man talking down to me where I'm like, no, you think, oh, no, no, no, no, it's not like that. You can't, this is not like that for you. That was my biggest fear when I came, first came here, like any immigration officers at the airport. But that's a legit fear.

Or like TSA, I was just so, so scared. When they say, like, welcome to America and you see the flag? Yeah. And then you're like, what do I say? Yeah, I forget to, like, speak English and I just don't know what to do. What do you think they're going to do to you, though? Like, deport you right then and there or say, like, no, you may not enter? Yeah.

Even my mom is scared of them, even till now. I have to always give them, like, a script. Yeah. I'm like, say this, say that. Because, like, they get tongue-tied, and it's so silly. It's like, where are you staying? And instead of saying, like, you know, I'm staying at my cousin's house, they're going to be like, I am illegal, immigrant.

Illegal, not illegal. Yeah, not illegal. I am illegal. Like, they give all the wrong answers because they're so frightened. Oh, I get that. What, um, did you see like a movie where that scared you? Like Norgo or something? I don't know.

I saw Trump's face in the Welcome to America sign. She's like, oh. They're just like always screaming at you and I don't understand. They are, but that's everyone at the airport, don't you think? Yeah, they're awful. When they get too, oh, and they're nasty. I really, I'm going to go fly to Portland today. Like, I need to find this guy.

He was so wrong about what he told me, and he seemed like he knew what he was saying and got to tell me to go back to the counter. And it's like, but you were wrong. He was wrong. Christina. How old were you with you? Yeah, what ages were you in Italy?

We need to know. I moved around five when I was five or six, and then I moved back when I was like 11. Oh, you moved back here? You know, I moved back when I was 11. So I was born here. My parents were smart about it. So I got my citizenship here.

Then we moved to Italy and then it moved back. Why did they go there? To Italy? I don't just for family, I imagine. Are they from there? Yeah, they're from Italy. So all their family is in Italy. But then we live in a really small town in Italy.

So I think my dad just got stirred crazy and then he wanted to just come back. Do you think you could ever live there? Like, do you want to? I think so. I think my town specifically it's like a maybe when I want when I retire when I'm like it's in the mountains there's not a lot to do it's really pretty about Skokie Illinois where I'm from oh really I'm gonna retire there you're gonna retire in Skokie yes the second Dave dies I'm going because he won't go is that when you fully retire is when he passes that's a good question you don't want to

die immediately after he dies women can't die immediately after I think it's like women actually live longer the sooner their partner dies and then men die immediately after the woman. That's so true. My Aunt Ellen has been a widow for 70 years. And she's 97 and she has a boyfriend with a yacht. Like that's how much you thrive if your husband dies young. You could be in your 90s with a yacht boyfriend. Yeah, that tracks. And before they used to market it as, like, you know, men, they just like die from heartache and women don't. And it's like, no. No, we have one less thing to burden us and burden our souls. But you guys know, I'm not remarrying after Dave.

I'm going to get a dog and name him Dave and Luke is Skokie and live in my childhood home and rot. That's so scary. Why is that scary? Why is it scary? What's coming up for you? To go back to your childhood home. We're meant to die. Yeah, I guess, I guess.

It's like full circle because that's your dad's home. Yeah, my grandparents died there. It's like, that's where I go to die. Yeah. Anyways. So we'll have to be pen pals when you're in the mountains. It'll probably be a while. Where do you want to die?

In the mountains. I don't know if I want to die in the mountains. No? But maybe like some are cool. The mountains is okay, I guess. Yeah. Wait, Christina, you're so interesting because you're so, like, skinny and pretty. But you're, like, weird.

What? and usually when like pretty girls are like pretty like that stuff no no you must know this I'm not the first but like usually like if someone's like tall and skinny and pretty or whatever like they fit the criteria and they're a little weird it's like the looks cover it like no one can tell but you it's like it comes out your weirdness really does lead shine through it shines through It leads the way. Thank you so much. Did you sneer at tall girls like us growing up?

No, I never sneered at you guys. I think I was just like, wow, like that's cool. But didn't you always feel like the cute boys love like the petite girls growing up? Yeah, I don't think I ever got attention for boys. I've always wanted to be short. My posture's so bad because I would slouch to try to be as tall as my short friends. I was always the tallest one. It's actually very Y2K to slouch because of Mary Kate Nelson.

Yeah. And then even Paris. Mary Kate, Ashley, sorry. Yeah. Slouch. But I do feel like the petite girls, especially in the Y2K era, really, like, ran it. Like you guys were like the cool. Even in high school, like no one wanted, my sister's six feet tall.

So she's like the skinny, lanky, tall girl. And I'm not that tall, but I'm 5'8 tall enough. And the short girls were always like, the ones who got picked to everything. And they have the audacity. The audacity, yeah. How could you even say to me, how could both of you look me in the eyes

and say that the short girls got picked for everything when, like, such a thing as gym class exists? Yeah, but the boys aren't choosing you based on your gym class abilities. They're choosing you based on your, on the fact that they, you're petite and you're like this small thing. Have you ever been picked last in gym class? Oh, picked for a small life. Okay.

Yeah. There you fucking. Yeah, but you think that that dude wants a big back bitch who wants who can do like crunches all day. You think that it matters the guy picks you. It matters that you're standing there the last one standing in every class and it's humiliating and you're just standing there. It's like stand-up comedy. That's probably why I became a stand-up comedian because I'm just standing there in front of everyone by myself and they're looking at me like I'm a fucking loser. But then Lisa Trigger did expose you, remember, when she was like, you were the...

Cute girl in theater and you would show off your hickies. You would put your ponytail up. You dated the hot guy, the popular guy. Stop. See? We're talking about gym class, okay? Obviously, there's two sides to everyone. It's hard to hide when you're tall and awkward.

That's not a good combination. Yeah, I agree. Like if you're confident and you act tall, if that makes sense, then yeah, that's great. But if you're awkward and tall, then you're just trying to, like, hide and then people can just, you know what I mean? You're just like. No, my sister went through that her whole life. Like, she was bullied because of how tall. She was always the one that stuck out.

And I was always, you know, trying to defend her and fight her bullies for her because she was tall and awkward. There's another thing that's weird about you for being a comedian. You're good at makeup. Oh, thank you. It took me a long time today to do it. I usually don't put that much effort into it. Really? I feel like you always look.

like done up and cute. Thank you. I think when I know I'm going to do something, I try to, I get really self-conscious. So that's why I do it. How can you get self-conscious? Look how pretty and big your eyes are. You live in Italy for six years. Like, how could you be self-conscious? You're so interesting. You guys are interesting too. I have a question for you guys. So, you know, the past week. I'm sure everyone saw this. Chante Joseph's article in Vogue, where she says, is having a boyfriend, where she asks is having a boyfriend embarrassing now. And everyone, you're either really offended by this or you totally get it. And I want to know where you guys stand. First, I want to summarize the article a little bit because I is having a boyfriend embarrassing now is the title of it, which is like, I think the article is more nuanced than that like splashy title, which it's sort of, depicts how like in our like online culture maybe like 10 years ago maybe even five years ago whatever it's like was the ultimate status symbol to like introduce your boyfriend to everyone online and be like all your pictures and content with him and like it would actually like maybe make

you get like more brand deals or just more attention but that this the pendulum has swung yeah and now it's like boyfriend defying your content makes you kind of boring and like not that interesting And I think that's true. Whether it's online or not, whenever your friend gets too into her boyfriend, it's embarrassing. And they just forget about you. And then they're just like, oh, focus with the boyfriend. And it's their whole personality. I think the article really does a good job of being like, hey, like we, it's not a flex to post.

And the Jules was pointing out earlier. She's like, you know, now they do like the low-key posting where it's just his hand. hand or like a strand of hair a strand of hair but they never actually do like the boyfriend reveal and hate that why worse than you hate that more than fully posting someone because you don't post dave like at all no i don't because he doesn't allow me to i my page would be just dave could be at esther monster featuring dave like the reason i don't like that is because i find that to be just literally the modernized version of the old way okay so And I feel like you think you're getting away with something like, oh, I'm like, I actually, it drives me nuts.

I'd rather see your cheesy like fucking you and your boyfriend in sweaters with pumpkin spice lattes in front of a pumpkin patch. Like I'd rather give me 20 pictures in your carousel of that bullshit than this like, here's a strand of his hair. It's like you're playing this like coy game. Like I have a, oh, like I'm so, you know what it says to me. It's like, I'm taken, but I'm so like secretive about it. I don't know, I just, I don't, it's like, icky to me. Yeah. I think it's called soft launching, right?

When you don't want to, like, let people see who it is, but you want them to know, oh, I'm with somebody. To me, sometimes it kind of feels like, oh, this is supposed to make another guy jealous. Oh. You know what I mean? Like, when you don't show who it is, but it's like, oh, look, it's just kind of like, or maybe, I don't know, maybe not. Maybe that's just a theory.

But you know what I mean? Like, if there's somebody you like and you're just trying to, they're not texting you back or something. and maybe it's your brother. Maybe it's not even a romantic interest. And you're just like, let's do this for me. I don't have a brother, so I use my dad. He's like salt and pepper hair. His hands are purple.

He's dead. You're at a morgue. I really love my partner. I really feel like I struck gold and he is like a rare gem in society. And with that said, I agree. having a boyfriend is embarrassing. I get it. I get why it's embarrassing.

It's not that I'm embarrassed of my partner. Women have really stepped up in the last 20, 25 years in a way that like no man can match. That's like my true belief. Are you saying that in theory you wish... Sorry, guy. You're cool too, but you know what I mean.

You wish in theory that you could be like single for how cool that is. I think that when I, was single um for the couple years before i met aloha i was like for me to give this up this like perfect situation where i felt i i was a i did i needed nobody i mean outside my friends and family of course but it's just like i didn't need like a man i really liked my lot in life i really liked where i was at i loved everything about my life like for me to give that up um he needed to exceed this tier. Yeah, he didn't make it better. Yeah, he either needed to completely pour into this

and like make my life enhance my life in so many ways or like not even bother. Because I think that singledum is like a coveted status and that's what she writes about. I mean, I guess I do agree with that because like I said, like Dave has said to me recently he's like if something happens to me like I think you should find someone else. And I'm straight up said like I don't, I barely want to be with you. Like, you're here because you're grandfathered in. Like, I'm not seeking out someone new after this because of all the things you said. It's like, I have my needs met now.

Like, I'm good. It's not as urgent and it's not this, like, I don't want to be picked by a man. That means nothing to me. But I also think it's easier said than put in practice because I do feel like being single has it's down. I don't know. You're single, right? Are you single? Why don't we let the single ladies speak?

Okay, yeah. Tell us how it is on the other side. I feel like it's so fun to be single and just not have to care about another person's feelings and just like talk to so many people and just like flirt and have fun. And that's it. It's so fun. So do you want a boyfriend? No. Wow.

I just want to talk to people. She hardly even wants to talk to them. That's true. Yeah. But when I talk, it's fun. And I think, I don't know. I just feel like having a boyfriend right now is embarrassing

in my 20s. I don't know. That's why I think. And you never even posted your ex right? Never. Why? Because it's embarrassing. But I would get mad at him if he doesn't post me. Of course. It makes perfect sense. I get it. The math maths for me.

Christina, what about you? I like being single too. It's like so much more fun but I think it's like maybe we had a bad experience the last time that really put me off of guys I don't think having a boyfriend's embarrassing I think having like a bad guy and then you're with them and you don't know what they're doing and then you feel embarrassed like man they were doing all this stuff and I'm like with them and you know and yeah it like paints your own like reputation even I and then just like you love them and then you act embarrassing even though they're being like kind of shitty and then you're just like and then you look at yourself you're like god

when did I become so embarrassing so I think it's embarrassing because it's making me feel embarrassed of myself you know like it's not like oh this person's embarrassing it's more like there I feel embarrassed that I let this person do that to me and it's reflecting to me where I'm inadequate and what I need to work on myself I think that's how it's that makes sense because I sent this article to my friend who was like super successful and she recently broke up with a dude who like she found out later on was like an absolute tweaker like he hid his cocaine addiction to me not very well but to her because she couldn't like she was in love right so she was like he's just high energy sometimes and sometimes he just crashes out and sleeps for three days and in my head I'm like he's a

co-cat see that's what's embarrassing it's us making excuses instead of just being like oh let's just find somebody who's maybe like, because I do that too. Like I get so like, oh, well, you know, I make excuses and that's embarrassing. It's like I shouldn't be making excuses. And I've absolutely been there. I've been that girl making excuses for a dude. The other thing in the article was I talked about, like some women just say they don't post their partner because they're like afraid of the evil eye or they're afraid of rubbing it in because our society right now is like there's so many like great women and there's not many great men and so like if you are lucky enough to have found someone like maybe you don't want to like rub it into the single people

but like it's not like that for everyone and sometimes I do feel like I don't want to make my whole personality or even a big part of my personality like being partnered or having a kid even because that's who am I isolating or you know making them feel left out but also it's like What am I going to do, not be who I am? I don't know. Yeah, I think about this a lot because my whole relationship, decade-long relationship with Bobby was posting him. And like I wouldn't half, like 90% of my grid when I look back at it,

like I've cleaned it up since, was just him. I was like his professional videographer and photographer and anything he did that was silly. I was like that staged mom. I was like, do it again, sweetie. You know, let's post this. And my whole, it was like my whole identity was just me and him, me and him. And I look back now and I'm like, God, I was like, why did I do that? I think that's cool.

I mean, it was a sign of the times because that was like the era of like coupledum, like you flex your partner. I also think it's cool that you pick this role in partnerships at times where like you're sort of like building them up. And like they're at the star. and there's something about that that I really admire and I think it feels like almost relaxing to me

where you're like oh they're the star and I'm just documenting them I don't know that feels like nice Would you prefer being a star instead of you She makes Dave paparazzi Photoshooter

But I lately I'm like There have been times where I'm like I feel like his career is really popping off And mine isn't And I'm like into it I'm like oh this is like fun To be like telling everyone

about what he's up to And I just lately, I'm like, oh, I like that role a little bit when I didn't think I would. Yeah. I'm like, oh, Kalila had it right. Like, that's good. Oh, yeah, you have to be the stage mom and kingmaker. It's fun. Yeah, yeah.

It's kind of mommy life. What are your dreams, baby? Let's get you there. Yeah. Wait, by the way, I forgot to tell the podcast, I'm pregnant. Oh, yay. She's revealing it. She didn't just, you know, get fluffy in the middle.

Yeah. Oh, no, everywhere. I'm pregnant, guys. You still look so thin. You're crazy, you guys. It's thinner than me. Jules! I'm not dealing with that.

I'm like gaining so much more weight this time. I'm like having so much bad, not good self-esteem. Yeah. You look good. Thank you. Thanks guys. You do.

I'm having another baby. How do you feel about it? I feel a lot. This was chosen. This was planned. I really, as you know. I psychotically wanted another kid. It was a horrible first three months.

months it was I threw up every night at like seven o'clock like clockwork and it was violent and that's why you're so skinny that's what I thought but now I'm like at that point where you get hungry and my acid reflux isn't as bad this time so I'm like pregnancy makes you hungrier it's normal food tastes better yeah this is I'm like college esther like blood flow is why yeah I'm eating a lot I'm really glad to be out of the first trimester it was hell on earth um But yeah, and we'll announce the gender soon. Do you think you're going to have a favorite child? Ace is my favorite.

Yeah. Yeah. I love Ace. But you haven't even met your baby. I need to meet this one. But right now, I don't have a connection with it at all. Which is like totally normal, by the way. I feel like there are women who feel like, I can't wait to meet you.

And I can't, you know, they say all these things. Like, I feel they feel very connected to their pregnancies. And there are people that just don't. Yeah. Also, pregnancy does not suit my mom. personality. Like I typically like to be the one sucking the life out of someone else. And so this is just not a comfortable zone for me. But I, whatever. Do you, do you want kids? Are you pregnant? Yeah. No, yeah, eventually. But I think it really depends for me, the person I'm dating.

Some people I'm like, oh, I really would want to have kids with this person. And other people, I'm like, nope, this person would leave the kids in the car. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, absolutely. Like right now, no, I would not want kids. But eventually, probably if I meet the right guy. Kalila was with the wrong guy. I think he's the right guy in so much. He was a right guy for someone. And for me, for however long that we lasted, he was absolutely the right guy for my life at that time.

But he would leave the baby in a hot car. Yeah, see, that's like, you guys are accusing them of murder. You know, these things. And it's not even that they would do it intentionally. I just don't think it's in their wheelhouse to know how to fully care for another, like, living being. Yeah, like, and I really, you know, some people I really loved and I know they, like, cared about me, but they just, their lifestyle, like, I did it like a really big stoner. And it's like, I don't think, I don't want him getting high in front of the kids eventually. He fapes all the time.

He's addicted to that. Like, there's little things where I'm like, I don't think I would want to have less kids. Yeah, I know. But, like, then that's stuff where it's like, oh, you know, maybe I do extra forms of birth control just in case, you know? Which ones? Like, I'll just, like, take a plan B just even if we don't have sex. Even if we don't have sex, just a preemptive one. Even if you guys just kiss.

But, you know, the good news is that stoner's, like, their sperm is a little slow. It's slow. Yeah. Like, I'm hungry. I don't want to go anymore. Or they just take a nap on the way there. It's true, though. Because I have a friend where him and his wife did IVF.

And so they got her eggs out. And then his sperm, they, like, killed all the eggs. Oh, no. So it's like she went through all this work. And then the sperm just like, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, like, it just did nothing. It killed the eggs. Yeah. And so then they did it again when he wasn't, he, like, quit weed.

And then they were able to make them. Yeah, because you have, like, the broken, sperm that just like swim in circles. They don't know where to go. And you can see it under a microscope and they look so stupid. It's like they're chasing their own tail. And it's like, hey, the eggs there. Like they don't know where it is because they're

just like. They should do sperm on different drugs. Did you guys see the video of the spiders on different drugs? No. There's a video of like spiders. The webs. Yeah. How they make the webs. They should do that. But with sperm's like a sperm on cocaine just gets to the egg immediately. Starts a business.

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Look at your shirt you're wearing. It's literally inspired by this. Is belly piercings a thing in your... I mean, now? Yeah, I think so. A lot of my friends, they have belly piercing. There, yeah. Really?

I really want to get a nipple piercing. I think they're cute, but the thought of it is too painful to me. Yeah, same. There's pasties at Fascianova that have, they're like, and it has a nipple piercing. Yeah, but that's like a... I just saw that the other day. It was like, what? They have that now?

Like, you mean, under the shirt, it looks like it. Yeah, so then I don't know why. Like, I mean, I guess, I do. It's like, oh, it looks like I'm that type of person, but I don't, you know, but I'm not brave enough to be that type of person. Yeah. I had everything pierced in a White 2K. You had your belly button? Belly button, my tongue, my eyebrow. Shot tongue. Yeah. I had my tongue pierced for like 10 years. You don't have catchers. I do. I do. I'll show you, but they're all, you know, on film, right? Why did you take those out, belly and tongue? I want them both now. I grew up. And this

This is why this eyebrow doesn't grow as well because I had this pierced too. And I didn't just have one belly button piercing. I had three. So I got it pierced on top and pierced on the side. That's why I have. I know. And then I got my first tattoo in Vegas at 16.

By Injun Joe, his name was. You little whore. I know. He spelled Injun, I, N, J.U.N. He really was, like, native. So, like, he wasn't, like, cosplay. Did the tongue and the belly button hurt? Not too bad, but my belly button, my third one got.

infected because I was like in the pool a lot but the tongue not too bad my mom went with me so cool at all yeah I really I really went for it Christina would you get out of body piercing yeah I mean I think belly button piercings look cool my belly button is not it's too it's like a crater I think I have a really weird is it really deep I feel like I ate a lot when my mom was pregnant with me like my umbilical cord just like got really stretched out I think it's what it looks like if you I'm I'm sure it looks normal. No, actually, Bobby saw my belly button.

We were just walking and it was kind of showing, and he was like, oh, my God. I was like, oh, my greatest fear. He jumps in. So funny. The denim on denim dream. I think it's crazy to have made this choice, but the fact that it's still so talked about, it's obviously it was worth it. Brittany looks great. I hate it on Justin.

Obviously, I don't even see him. This is very white 2K, but like there's, it just, it makes me sad and I don't know why. It's hard for me when you pair the like the costume extravagance with just like a pair of jeans. Like it's just, it doesn't, that does not stand the test of time the way the full look does in my opinion. But it's unfortunate that I feel like I have dressed like this too. A club. I'm sure you haven't. I'm sure in your day, it was good, but it does not stand the test of time.

It doesn't, no. This one's iconic, yeah. J-Lo and her green dress that she re-wore, which was, like, pretty cool. Is J-Lo back on, like, the upswing, or is people still, like, shitting on her? Is she mean or something? I feel like I was here that she's mean. I don't know. I feel like what she gets shit on for is, like, she still wants to be that, like, relatable

girl from, you know, Jenny from the block. And I think that's where people are like, no. I've never looked at Jailo and been like relatable. I don't know. I was that ever seen. I've never felt that way. What should call it like some drink that do you buy? And she's like, if you

know, you know. And everyone's like, no, we don't know. So I think she was like trying to have like this relatable moment of being like, you know, when I was a kid, rolling the streets. Yeah. But I do feel bad for her. I feel like she's gotten a lot of shit for no reason. Do we really have to feel bad for her? I don't know. I feel bad for everyone. You know that

I think about like I think of everyone as a baby and like their mother either like or either them receiving all that. They were like once a loved baby and then somewhere down the road they didn't get what they needed and now they're that. That's really that's good. Like when I'm like really down in the dumps and I'm like, why do that person say that about me? Like that's so untrue. That really like hurts me. I want to go kill myself. I'm like, no, that was just a baby that didn't get what they needed. Because why would somebody go out of their way? Like, what kind of person? Have you guys ever done that? Like, commented on anything? No. Me either. So it's like hard to even imagine, like, what, because you can think something in your head and be like, okay, but then

to, I need this person to know that this is how I feel about them. And they don't, it's weird to me. It's weird, right? It's a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. I can think it and then release it. Okay, that's just a thought but like what what do they think they're getting from that it's the them thing like even if you know even if it's they say something that hits a nerve because you're like oh i feel that way too yeah yeah what kind of person does that goes out of their way to like try to what are they doing what are they doing doing that i think it reflects to me like a powerlessness where it's like there's no other outlet so then that's like that's it they only have that i feel like having a boyfriend is that's embarrassing is like whenever you call that's the embarrassing thing

imagine finding out okay what would you do like you feel like you found the love of your life and you're like he's hit all the marks but then you happen to walk in on him late at night he thinks you're asleep and then he's just deep deep into like trolling just like shitting on and writing these messages to like random people like calling them like i think i'd rather find out that he was a serial killer because that takes effort. I know, and there's almost something very like, not hot. No, you're not hot with your serial, but something more like, okay, like you've thought this big scheme out versus just being a troll on the internet.

Yeah, and I'm kidding. I wouldn't, like, actually want that. But it's just there's something so like, because what is he working on? If he's doing that, then it means that already there was red flags before. Like, there's no way that you would have been the love of, there would have been personality problems like I agree there would have been stuff that would have

like it's an impossible scenario yeah because it would have been we would have seen weird stuff way earlier if that's what they do if that's their thing yeah they wouldn't have had he's not running a business he's not ambitious he's not busy if he's like spending his time doing that right but I think there are some

sleepers I think that there are dudes where they write the most like vile thing to me and then I look at their profile and they're like married with kids have literally like a seems like a professional so religious it's religious that doesn't surprise me if they have some biblical shit I'm like okay this actually tracks but sometimes I look and I'm like oh like you have a tiling company and you have a wife and a kid and then you're talking about like what you

would do to like my asshole and how you would kill me right after you did that to my asshole like I think everyone needs a creative outlet and I think you know I really do like I'm not even kidding like you can have your 9 to 5 your wife your kids but we're all creative you know we have this need to create things and I think for them it's comments it's mean asshole comments don't underestimate how easy it is to have like a

profile and a public presenting anything online that makes you seem like your life is normal that's the easiest trick in the book anyone can do that Everyone here can do that. It doesn't mean anything. You can curate. Even like when people with boyfriends, you know, like when they post a ton and to like try to convince, oh, my relationship, usually that's when they're not that good, right? Because whenever I'm having fun, I'm not taking any pictures at all.

Like whenever I go somewhere and I'm genuinely present in the moment, I'm not like, oh, let's take a bunch of pictures so I can post it on social media and show everybody. Like that's never. So I feel like when you see people that are like curating this online person out. presence or whatever. It's like, are they having fun? Like, I don't know. When I see someone who hasn't posted in a while and then they post a picture with their significant other and it's like a big like, you know, love of my life. We've had our ups and downs or this. Usually I'm like, they just had like an almost like divorce worthy fight. Like I'm sure of it. It's a red flag when it's like love of my life. Ups and downs is always a big tell. Obviously people will post their lives

online and whatever and with their significant other but if it's like a whole entire paragraph that feels kind of like this is it should be into me right like yeah yeah i don't know what you're saying this too okay so there was this guy um like 10 years ago and i met him in um in barcelona and um we never hooked up never did anything we just like drank one night with a bunch of friends and then called it a day and then so we became friends on instagram and on instagram when i tell you this man like bragged about his girlfriend posted pictures of her even without him in the photograph because she was stunning like a 15 out of 10 clearly like the girl of his dreams this man i never showed interest in him would be in my dms and my snapchat almost every day trying to like

solicit something from me and that's when i knew i was like nope whatever that is like you're foolish I learned very early on that, like, that means nothing. That means nothing. If anything, if you value something and it's like, you really like it, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I won't post anything because I feel like people kind of ruin things and they don't have good intentions. So I like keep a lot to myself. I had to learn that the hard way because like early podcasting, I would just overshare,

overshare, overshare, and like I held nothing sacred. And then it completely backfired and it just felt icky. So like now I, after a lot of. therapy I'm like no if I love and I care about something like you will never see me like yeah because I'm scared you know now I know now what the cost of that oversharing is yeah I never want to do that again so this is kind of related to this big story that's going around TikTok I don't know if you guys follow this girl Hallie Kate she's considered like one of the top New York City influencers I happen to love her like she's so cute she's so funny relatable

Like, I absolutely love her content. I think she's awesome. She was dating this guy a couple of years ago, and he broke up with her. And she was really oversharing her life at that time. And she shared that he told her, point blank, you know what? Like, you're just not the love of my life. Cut two, several months later, they get back together. They're still together.

Like, they have a house together now. They live together in New York City. Like, recently it's come up, like, sort of viral, a bunch of people have been commenting, like, it's weird that I'm watching this girl's life. And I know that that man told her two years ago, you're not the love of my life. And people are like, a lot of people are like, that's weird. And a lot of people are like, this is none of our business, you know, who cares? But it's just been interesting to see. And like, then the girl, Hallie, like, made this video of like, guys, leave me alone. I understand I

overshared, but like, this is none of your business. I don't know. I just, it's been, interesting for me to see because I do understand like I would not want people to know that my fucking partners told me I wasn't the love of his life but at the same time guys can say that and it can change a lot of things yeah also you don't know the context of you know when that was said why it was said like there's just so many that's what I'm saying it's like one sentence now dictates how everyone views their relationship moving forward and it's like have I said some crazy shit in like the heat of the moment that I possibly didn't mean. Yes, absolutely. Like, do I take it back the same day? I do. That's what I'm saying like with a whole like Bobby and me thing. It's like, I wish,

like she's so right. It's like, leave her the fuck alone. Like you don't know anything about their relationship. You really fucking don't. You don't. She gives you one snippet of one time of a 24 hour day when she's lived years and years and years with this person. I also'm like, I doubt that if you asked Dave in the first, like, three to six months of us being together, if he'd say I was the love of his life. Like, I actually almost think it's sort of like red flaggish for a guy that early to think that. It's like really dramatic and really extreme. It's like a signal of extreme feelings and that's not healthy. And how are you supposed to know that?

Yeah. Like it's such like a arbitrary kind of like phrase. You're the love of my life. I say that to my dog. Yeah. It's such a throw. for me like that means that holds no water i if a man you told me before too like whenever like if i have a boyfriend or a girlfriend and we're fighting you can't always tell your family immediately

exactly that you've what you're fighting about that you fought you can always complain about them because then that's just what they're yeah they stay stuck in that fight or what was said and now you've already moved on as a couple and now they've just that's that's their only like indicator of how that relationship is going especially if you're not sharing the good stuff stuff either. If all you're sharing is just like, hey, we got into a fight, that's, that's, they form their opinions based on like a series of all the negative things you've, you've shared. Yeah, I only tell my mom when it's like over all the bad stuff because I know that once I tell my mom, then she's never going to like the person again. Or let it go, right? Or let it go. Yeah. But they're also kind of objective too. Like they're just taking it as data. They're not having any emotion towards it. Oh, that's cool. You know, like, so it's like, even if you tell them the good stuff. The reason you don't tell them is because you know that that's not acceptable, too. Like, I would not tell stuff to my mom because I know she would be like, you shouldn't put up with that. And then I would have to face the reality of, oh, I should not be in this relationship.

Right, right. Sometimes we don't want that. And if nobody knows, then we can keep being in a toxic relationship and no one holds us accountable. Yeah. And it's kind of nice. But also, it is like, oh, nobody knows this because people knowing things. and them knowing somehow makes it more real. Because if it's just you, it's like, okay, but everybody else thinks this is good.

So it must be good on some level, right? They all think this is the reality. So even if my reality is bad, but if they all knew, then it's like cats out of the bag. Now that's embarrassing. I'm staying in it. Everybody knows. I feel like if he is, like, treating you weird, though, you should be reporting that too. Yeah, but you don't sometimes because it's like, God, but I really like him.

I want to stay. And then it's embarrassing if I tell them this. And I stay. then it's like I can feel their judgments of me, which is really just how I feel about myself. Yeah. But when if they don't know and they see a good thing, it's like, okay, well, at least I'm not being embarrassing publicly.

Yeah, that's my gauge, though, of whether or not I should cut it off. But it's also, I feel like in your 20s, early 20s, like you do have to go through at least like one cycle of like to know what like toxic is. If you don't date or kiss shitty frogs, like you're not going to know what to low. for in the next run. I think for me all my relationship have like highlighted something that I have to fix with myself. Yeah. It's kind of like rubbing alcohol or something, you know, like nail polish remover and you have a cut and it's like, oh, I didn't know that was there and now you feel it. Like, oh, this relationship shows I'm really bad with boundaries. That's why this happened. And a lot of times

it's so easy to blame the other person because they were kind of shitty. But then if you do that, then you never fix the things and then you just end up dating the same guy over and over again. I think that's why I've been single too for a while now is because I'm really trying to not like, oh, okay, let's see if the next guy is better, you know? Like, it's like, okay, let me see what I can do so I attract a better partner now. I'm getting so triggered by this conversation

because of my fucking sister. What have I been telling you this whole time? He's got to let go and let God. You want to dive in and you want to like be the person that like, you know, reasons with them as to why they cannot be with this person or that person it's just you will that is a losing game what do i do nothing you let go you let go that is her life if she comes to you with x y and z then you give her your advice then but don't give unsolicited advice stay the fuck out of it i can't unless she's being physically harmed and

there's something criminal happening or this person is a narcissist and you're like okay this is a danger to But for this loser guy to like only come back when she's moved on and happy repeatedly and for her to not see that it's this like... Did she go back to that loser guy? It's like on the verge. Oh my God. This is pissing me off. It's so bad. Like it's, I wish I could like, if for the Patreon next week or whatever, we should get into it.

But like, it's so bad. It's consuming me because I'm like, this guy is like winning. my sister was in a relationship with a fully classically narcissistic man so emotionally abusive for six years you know the kind of mouth i have like you know the kind of rage i have for me to just sit back and watch and not intervene like took everything out of me like i saw her cortisol face she had like she looked she was so sick so physically ill chronically he's he's the reason she still has lupus today or has any autoimmune stuff like he dragged her to you to hell. And there was a point which, like, I kind of intervened. And we didn't, my sister and I didn't talk for three months. And I'm like, oh, I can't do that again because clearly she still wants to be in this relationship.

So in order for me to keep a closest eye on her, I knew that I had to play nice just so in case shit got really bad that I was close enough to pull her out of it. I can't play nice. Because if I were, if he were to successfully isolate, what his whole thing was to try to isolate me. So in my head, I'm like, he's a narcissist. He's going to try to isolate her whole family. He almost did, except I outsmart.

at him because I'm like a fucking sniffy from a fucking mile away you dip shit and I was like no I'm gonna play so fucking nice so I stay as close as possible and she's always within my grasp and eventually thank fucking god she left but she left on her own terms and it's never gonna happen for me but it took not my voice but for our romanian friend raluka who she hadn't seen in like six years to meet up with my sister in Vegas and raluka was like in her most romanian bluntness was Like, why do you look like this? Why do you feel like this? Why are you sounding like this?

Like, what happened to you? You look like a shell of yourself. And then she broke up with him that night. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, that girl, like, switched a light, you know, because my nagging wasn't going to help. She's heard me time and time again. Yeah, I'm nagging.

But the bullshit that I hear about soulmates and connection and spark, it's like you sound like an idiot. Yeah. You sound like a fucking idiot. This man literally, I want. point pulled her out of a living situation that she had to live with him then broke up with her and left her homeless and then cost me money so that's really what makes me mad is that it's also a financial burden on me because of him i fucking hate him yeah but it's a dopamine rush that's

really what it is it's like roller coaster manipulation it's a slot machine yeah it's a slot machine it's like how do you not see that how does an adult not see that i think it's just like a drug addiction you know where it's like you're out of it you don't get it you're like how just stop this bad for you right but it's like it's a drug you're right yeah you can't like reason with a drug addict also I think when you don't like yourself or love yourself um it feels more honest when somebody's treating you like shit it's like well this person is treating me exactly the way I deserve to be treated oh yeah I've thought about this stuff a lot it's like so that's why it's so important to have good self-esteem I think and treat yourself well and feel like you're worth more

because then it feels honest when you meet a nice guy because a lot of time nice guys seem phony right yeah because you're like oh why are they treating me so well i don't deserve it especially if when a guy is just immediately nice to you and immediately they want to treat you well you're like well i didn't earn this this feels phony they're lying you know and so then you accept less because it's like okay well i need to like earn it and then it'll be more real but it's just all distortions in your head yeah and sometimes you can't like grow out of them though because you're just so deeply programmed in you and so then you get stuck in these cycles because you're like well This is what I deserved.

And while you're in the cycle, you can't even, like, do anything to, like, love yourself because you're in the cycle. So you have to just be out of it to figure this stuff out. I'm going to accept the lowest bar possible if I'm not in a place of feeling like I'm, like, worthy in any way. I don't think that badgering your friends to get out of a relationship is the way they get out of it. People do what they want to do. Yeah. One of my best friends, she was dating a guy. And before they even made it official, it was like, you don't like this guy.

This isn't. But she dated him for four years and then they broke up and she's like, you're right. Like four years later. Yeah. I was like, I knew this. Like you can just tell because it's like your objective. You love them. You don't have all the feelings that they're having in that moment.

So it's easier for like. That's the thing though. It's like when you've already been swept in, it's so hard. Like all objectivity is like out the window. You're just really, like, blind almost. And I know, Jules, you're, you don't have to say too much, but, like, you're going through something similar where you hate a certain friend's, like, boyfriend, right?

Yeah, well, I see her... And he's, like, dangerous. Oh, my gosh, she's crazy, but I can't say anything. But I see her as a best friend, but I feel like you've told me enough times, like, you can't just, you know, force people to decide, like, for their decisions. But I don't know. It's just so dumb. He's so stupid.

He's just fucking, yeah, but I can't do anything. You can. You just say, like, okay. I think it's a good sign, though, that they, like, when they tell you these things, because it's almost like their, like, intuition talking to you, like, being like, hey, help, you know, but then they go back in it. But the fact that they already opened that door of letting other people know is them trying to get out of it, I think. So I think eventually they'll get out of it.

It'll take a while, but them doing that means they're not. Yeah, it is. Because while you're holding it in, you still have a lot of hope for the relationship, but once you let other people know what's going on, that's you trying to get out of it. That's the first step for sure. Yeah, I think so. And I think that now I reserve all judgment. Like, I don't even say anything. Even if I can like, this one friend of mine who was dating the Cokehead, when she would tell me like, hey, I think he's doing this. And I would be like, oh, ah. Yeah. He's cocaine. But still. It's an awkward position to be in because then, And if they stay together, then it's tense because they know what you're thinking. And now he, which is what happened, by the way. It's like after I said that little thing and he would come back around and I'd be like, hi, nice to see you. And it was just very awkward. I dated somebody where it was like, oh, he really respected what his guy friends thought

and he would act like, kind of like high school. It was weird. Like he would act different in front of his friends and kind of like, and he would like make jokes at my expense kind of thing. Oh, gross. It's like he wanted them to like respect him, but then he didn't care really like what I thought or my opinion on things. I don't think every guy's like that because I think definitely some guys are like they respect women and they like valid. Like I've had boyfriends where they really like highly esteem me.

They like they respect. I could feel it. It's not like a blanket statement, but definitely have been with guys where they like, oh, they don't. It's weird. It's odd. And it all comes back. I think to a mother wound or a father wound or something. Yeah.

It is. He had mommy issues or something, I think. So he like secretively like, because he hated his mom when he was a kid, now he hates women. Like I think it all comes from your childhood, I think, all this stuff. I'm so scared. I'm so scared of raising a kid. My God.

I'm terrified. I think also it's like if you see like your mom, like how your dad treats your mom. A hundred percent. They're like, oh, this is how. much women matter is this dynamic. That's why I'm not worried so much about raising my baby is truly like I can relax at the end of the day knowing that his dad is his dad. His dad is just phenomenal.

That's why it's important to pick somebody good where you want to have babies. It's like, okay, this one will make my kid not a sociopath. Yeah, I feel a lot of relief knowing that like even if I were to like just horribly fail as a parent, the fact that he has that father. is he already has an advantage. And so that feels like I can go to bed at night. Yeah. All right.

Cool. Well, Esther has left the building to relieve her babysitter. I have a baby to feed. Thank you so much, Christina. Thank you for having me. For joining us today. And thank you guys so much. We'll see you next week.

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