Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Dumbfounded & Jason Cheny UNLOCKED
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I sit down and I face the toilet.
So you straddle like a lady on top.
And then I put a hand over for like for comfort and support.
You magic mic the toilet and shit.
I'm like running on it?
Yeah.
I'm like, bro.
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I'm ready.
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Today we have very funny Jason Chenney.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
I really appreciate it.
That's not your actual.
real name though, right?
Oh, no, it was Jason Chen.
When I first immigrated, they assigned your roommates.
I went to Army and Navy Academy.
Yeah.
They assigned me a black roommate and he just called me Chenny Chen, Chen.
And then I was just like, oh.
And also there's too many Jason Chin Chin Chin.
I don't know if it was that.
No, that sounds like that's.
Yeah, yeah.
But what is Chini Chin Chin Chin is from Red Riding Hood.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Right?
It's a part of what the wolf says.
Oh, okay.
This is my first time hearing it.
No one ever says.
that, hey, that sounds familiar.
No, never.
Did you think he was just a racial slur?
Yeah, I said it was.
So it wasn't a black thing at all.
It's Robin Hood, which is not necessarily a black thing.
Repeat guest.
A mayor of Korea town.
In my movie, Drugs or June, amazing.
Actor and writer.
Actor and writer.
Drugs for June now streaming on Amazon.
And he has a new podcast.
And a book coming out.
Yeah, the new podcast, Homeroom.
That's why we're talking about Homeroom.
With Steffi.
That's right.
That's right.
With Steffi and Rick.
Yeah.
Same crew.
Same crew. Love you guys.
Dumbfounded.
Hey.
Wait, and what's your book called?
Spit.
You guys, I have what you will be so shocked.
Everyone will be shocked.
I have a sports topic.
Ew.
I know.
You're a fraud.
She hates sports.
I know.
I promise you it'll like come back around to being about me.
But no, and I'm also pregnant with a boy.
Like what is the transformation is already taking over.
You have testosterone in you.
You have a little dick in you, that's right.
Why do you have to call it little?
Because, I mean, if it was big, it would be a problem.
That would be so disturbing.
Wait, do you guys like sports at all?
Me trying to like get along with two men?
No, no, no.
Like, to be honest, I'm not a huge sports person either.
Okay.
Like, I watch some sports, yeah, but.
I never really.
No, okay.
I'm an athlete, though.
Oh.
You look.
Yeah.
I'm not.
Oh, you look at a lot.
No, you look like you'd be an athlete.
I look like it, but I'm not.
And that's why I always want to say that I'm an athlete.
But you play nothing?
No.
How do you look like an athlete without being an athlete?
You work out.
You work out a lot, huh?
I work out, but what is, you know what is?
Like, no.
That's what I always say about my mom.
No, but you know, that's what I say about my mom.
She's so just yoked and perfect, but she's just a gym rat.
I'm like, what do you even?
I was like, that's decorative.
Yeah, it's decorative.
Like, what can you actually do?
I'm a decorative athlete.
It doesn't work.
It just looks like it does, but it's better.
Okay, so this is about college football,
which is literally my least favorite sport of all time
because I went to a Big Ten school
and I absolutely hated nothing more
than how much attention and adoration
the football team got at our school, right?
Like, they were the stars.
And I was like, guys, I'm an actress.
Like, I don't think you understand.
Like, I should be getting all this love and adoration
whatever. Like, I'm famous, but I wasn't. Anyways, so there's this team, college football team,
in Indiana, but they're, like, shitty, right? They suck. And they get this new coach two years ago,
and his name is Curtis Signetti. And he's never, like, he's just, he's Dave in your ear right now.
Do you have an earpiece? Curtis Signetti. And this, like, he literally signs on to coach this horrible
team, right? Like they've just historically sucked. This guy is in a press conference two years ago,
this coach, and they're like, what's your plan? You know, because like, this team sucks.
There's what they're insinuating. And he just goes, it's simple. I win. Google me. And everyone's
like, okay. And then two years ago, as of yesterday, they won all the championship.
And for me, I'm like, what does this say to me about my life? And I'm going to tell you, like,
maybe you can be a bad player and you can be shi and short and weak and lazy but it's about your
coach like maybe what's missing for me in my life is I just need a good coach were they bad yeah
they were bad or did they just have bad coaching and leadership and guidance and a non-belief in
themselves what well clearly I mean that's the turnaround but like they should have been better
are they the same people on the team or did they choose
change like everybody.
I mean, I think they change a little here and there.
But like, I guess from what I hear when like a team is bad, like, it's like they're bad.
So you mean like life coaching?
Like, like life coaching?
Yeah, like maybe we need coaches.
Like a Ted Lasso.
Basically the story you're telling is the premise of Ted Lasso.
Oh, no, really?
Yes, it's exactly it.
Yeah, he's American football coach.
He goes to the UK.
He goes, I know nothing about the sport.
But I have a certain like ethos and a belief and he has a certain coaching style.
I like that.
And then he takes them to the top.
But the players are already stars.
I mean, they're already at a level.
Like, college football is already at a level.
You can't just be like a walk-on.
Right.
And just be like, hey, I'm going to coach you to stardom.
Like, that doesn't need.
You still have to have something that they can unlock.
Yes, exactly.
Like, if you don't have that, then there's nothing to unlock.
Are you guys saying I don't have anything to unlock?
Why don't you try out for that team?
And see if he can turn you into something.
you're really just raining on my parade today.
I have friends who have like life coaches and stuff.
But I just feel like they're caught up in some pyramid scheme or something.
I know.
Because life coaching, I think, is an absolute scam.
Yeah.
I'm sorry to all the great life coaches there.
I think that it is a pyramid scheme.
And I think anyone can be like, here, you know, let me coach you into what?
But it works for that team.
But that's actual technical coaching.
Thank you, Jason.
Yeah, my best friend is here representing me.
But they can like run fast or strong.
You just have, they just got to be put in the right piece.
Like, you know, placement.
And motivation.
Okay, what is something that you feel is like has not been unlocked in your body that you could be coached into?
You don't feel unlocked?
You're doing so good.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think you can be?
What is something that has not been unlocked in you?
This is my full potential.
Everything is unlocked.
I'm like free bird.
But you, but you said like, I feel like for you, you look like an athlete.
Like, but I'm not though.
Okay.
For instance, someone's like, okay, I come in.
I'm like, you know what, dude?
I think we can play rugby.
I know, I promise you, it's your first game.
Snap both ankles?
Yeah.
First step.
First step.
Yeah.
First step is over.
No, I'm fragile.
I don't look like I'm fragile.
But yeah, but you don't feel like you're unlocked though.
Do you feel like you're unlocked?
No, I'm not unlocked.
You're not unlocked?
I have compartments, I feel like have been like really like tucked away because of like trauma.
So like I have a very low level of self-belief.
Oh, low level?
Low level.
Like I have some self-belief in some things and low in others.
And I feel like there are dark corners over here that could really be like.
Can we talk about you guys as corners?
Yeah.
Listen, what's your corner?
What's your corner?
What's the corner?
I don't know.
I think that it's really hard to answer like universally for me myself right now because I'm
pregnant so I'm so miserable and I'm like locked away you don't look good though thank you so much
you're glowing yeah thank you oh my god it's really just the lighting we're lit for to be ugly
women in here it's very nice I feel like I get into zones with my stand-up where I'm like
in the zone you know and then it can fall away so I'd love to just like stay on
unlocked in that zone and really like get but I just kept having babies and that's going to stop though
no I feel I feel that way like there was a time I felt like fully unlocked and I'm just like oh now I'm
in the zone like do out my 20s and I'm like rapping battle raping I'm confident and then like I
got older and I just started like tucking myself back in locking the door you know what I'm saying
so it is like I've gone through like a little roller coaster of that from like extroverted
to introverted.
You were introverted?
I've gotten introverted more
as I gotten older actually.
It's kind of crazy.
And then also like being around
extra like extroverted energy and shit.
You know like certain friends of mine
like they're so extroverted.
You know, go to like an event
and they're starting a fucking conga line and shit.
And I'm like, yo, what the fuck?
Like I'm not gonna join in on this.
You know, it's like it gets weird.
I really do envy the conga line people
because the cooks have the most fun.
Like I don't surf,
but I have friends that do.
and they're always like shitting on bad surfers.
But I always look at the bad surfers and I'm like,
they look like they're having a blast.
So I like conga line people because I could never be conga line people.
If you guys get reincarnated,
would you want to be a conga line person or would you want to?
Yeah.
You would.
I want to be blissfully happy and stupid and unaware and not tapped in
and not an overthinker and not someone who like has to think about every step that I take
like like analytically.
I just want to
I want to exist and be dumb
and just take up space
for no fucking reason.
But I go with them
to the thing knowing
that they're gonna do that
because it kind of brings me out of my show.
Yeah.
So I won't say like no and just stay in.
You know, I'll still go.
You know, which it's already kind of a step, you know?
Yeah.
And I think you do need the conga line people.
Like I have friends.
I intentionally like seek out
because they're so opposite of me
and I'm so like inspired.
and I like light up around them.
So, yeah.
But I know that feeling of like being an extrovert.
All of my 20s, I thought I was an extrovert.
And it turns out I was like faking it the whole time because I was just an alcoholic.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm just a party girl.
I'm just loaded.
And I was just, oh.
Yeah, that shit helps.
Yeah.
And but then it turns out once I stopped drinking, I was like, oh, I don't like to like leave
the house like at all.
No wonder why I drank so much.
That's why I started drinking again.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I was sober for two.
two years and then I was like, damn, this is boring.
And I got started drinking again, but now I got to find a balance.
There's a fine line there, yeah.
If I was your therapist, which, hello, welcome to hell, I would assign you the homework
of, like, you need to go fail.
You need to, like, feel failure.
Like, even if it's just, like, drawing a bad painting, like, picture or something.
Like, I think you need to, like, do things that are bad and be okay with it.
You're not even unlocked, brother.
I said welcome to hell.
I think my whole life I've been told I was a failure.
That's the problem.
I don't think I need to go fail at more things.
Like everything that I attempted to do as like a child was never good enough or never got like the pat on the back.
So I mean, I will try.
I'll go try to be really, really bad at something.
But I don't know.
I guess because Bobby means you do stand up and it and was that bad.
It was terrible.
But I wasn't bad.
you know what I mean?
I like I know how to write.
I'm not an idiot.
And so,
but he made me do it over and over again.
It felt like a failure because I just don't enjoy going up there.
It's not a thrill for me.
I don't,
it felt like honestly being waterboarded.
I was like,
this is torture.
Why do people do this?
Why do you guys do that?
It's crazy.
Like to be up there with a mic and to be perceived and seen is like absolute torture for me.
You're crazy, dude.
I love stand up,
but I hate what.
Bobby does that shit.
Like, everyone should do stand-up.
You know, he's going to fucking the maintenance guy.
Do stand-up.
Do stand-up.
It's like everyone doesn't need to do stand-up.
I know.
It's like someone who just tried like really good cake.
They're like, please try this.
Like, it's so good.
It's like, no.
I was still curious about you guys' corners.
Okay, let's talk about it.
One of my corners is something so dumb.
But I really think if I had been thought correctly,
I could have been a really good surfer.
Oh, surfer.
But you deep sea dive, no?
Yeah, I dive.
So I'm like such a water person, but that's like a blind spot.
Everyone assumes I surf.
I don't surf.
But what do you want to do surfing, though?
I don't know.
It's just something I feel like I could have been good at.
Oh.
That's one corner.
But you enjoy it?
Yeah.
You do enjoy it.
I like being in the ocean period.
Oh, okay.
Another corner that I feel like I am too afraid to tap into.
When I was in the second grade, I thought I was going to be a filmmaker.
Because my dad did like art direction.
He was like in film.
for a couple years.
And so like I thought that I was like, oh, I'm going to direct one day,
but I can never say it out loud.
So I tuck that little corner in and I let her die.
But why not just do it?
No, like with the iPhone thing, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, whatever.
It doesn't have to be grand?
But, you know, it's one of those things that I just could never get past iPhone or
TikTok.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
Or not even.
You could rent a camera.
Guy, let me borrow you or.
I can be the DP and you can direct.
You don't have a corner, dude?
Everything is a corner for me.
I'll say I've done everything I've wanted to do.
Like, there's no thing that I'm just like, I've always wanted to.
No, I've done it.
You know what I mean?
And like whether it's like bad or positive or whatever.
What was like one that you were afraid to do and then you did it?
Or would you not afraid?
I think I'm afraid to, I've done everything, but I feel like I can push myself further into the thing.
And that's where like the fear like stops me or something.
What is that thing?
to the extent of how far I can go in that one field.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like always been like underground to like, you know,
pushing myself further like bigger,
doing a bigger version of the thing,
I think is where I get stopped, you know?
I don't know.
So a certain fear that kind of stops me from it.
Yeah.
Like the potential is there.
I haven't reached my full potential in the thing.
So your corner is like a smaller corner.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like that's super relatable.
Like what do you have?
corners yeah I can't think of one right now probably like athletic stuff probably yeah
probably or everything everything like I stand up yeah everything stand up
penis size no I don't know what like everything yeah all the corners I feel like though
there is a thing with especially like artists creatives I don't know like where we always feel like we're
doing enough. And then that's its own, like, negative thing where we have to also just be like,
no. I mean, everyone feels that. Like, that's like the American culture is like you're not doing
enough. I think that just some parts of yourself are not necessarily like watered well when you're
younger. Like for me, I was just primed to be like a, just an athlete. I wasn't really allowed to do
anything like in the arts or nothing, anything like that. I was just athlete, swimmer. That's it.
That's it. And so when you get older, you're like,
Oh, but I can do this.
And then your parents are like, no, you can't.
But do you want to do that, though?
Because you said that you like to surf and then you surf and enjoy it.
But then because in your head you want to be like competitive, like the top echelon of.
I don't want to be a competitive surfer, Jason.
I just want to be like I want to be adequate.
I want to be out in the lineup and just, you know, surf waves consistently.
Yeah, that's easy.
Yeah.
The hard shit is the competitive surfing.
There's no way.
It's just easy.
You guys.
Surfing is so hard.
The surfing is hard.
You did it for first.
time.
Not one time.
You do like 50 times and then you're like you're good.
Well, can't you surf?
Not well.
That's the thing.
It's like that's such a misconception.
Everyone assumes this.
Yeah,
what's the problem right now?
Yeah.
What is it?
You guys are right.
I'm going to drive every day for an hour from my little El Tadina home all the way to
El Porto and I'm going to practice every day.
What's stopping you though?
I know like the baby and career things.
No, but I mean like besides that.
What?
I go to Hawaii for a month and then do it.
You think it takes a month to be really good.
It takes years.
I think you could get somewhere.
You just don't care about really good.
I just started for the first time, by the way.
You did?
Yeah, yeah.
Was it fun?
Thailand.
And yeah, I took a surf lesson.
You know what?
I was disappointing.
I thought I would be like naturally good at it because I skateboarded and stuff early on.
And like, damn, and I sucked.
And I was like kind of worse than a lot of my friends who was with me.
It pissed me off because they don't skate or anything.
You know what?
The people who do really, really well are girls like her, little dancers who don't have a lot of weight on them.
They can ride any board and they can just walk to the tip of the board, walk back.
Yeah, float around like little ferries in the ocean.
There's no way I wouldn't die.
Like, I can't swim.
I'm terrified of waves.
I'm terrified of water.
I would not athletic.
Like, I would never surf.
I would probably skydive against my will before I would surf.
Yeah, because at least I'm not going to like.
like be entering into drowning knowingly.
Waves are terrifying.
Waves are so,
I have nightmares about waves.
Like,
they're so scary.
I agree.
By the way,
this weekend,
you went into the cold ocean?
Yeah,
the beach was nice.
No,
it wasn't.
It was cold as shit,
yeah.
But we got in,
why did you do that?
No,
it's just nice.
I'd do that too.
Yeah,
Saturday mornings,
Will Rogers Beach
jump in the water.
Morning,
though?
Morning.
And it's cold.
Yeah,
it's cold.
But I also cold.
co-plunge and do all that shit.
Did it hurt?
Yeah, it doesn't feel great.
My ears were like really burning after, but it's nice to get in and just like give your body
a little bit of a shock and then just come out, you know?
I just don't think I could do that.
I want to ask you guys about family drama, specifically the Beckham's versus the peltz.
I just read up on that this morning, actually.
Jason, do you know about this?
Sorry, can you repeat it one more time?
It doesn't look like he knows about it.
You know who posh is.
It's not a box.
No, it sounded like a book.
Do you know what the Spice Girls are?
Yes.
Do you know who Posh is?
No.
Posh is the one who married David Beckham, a soccer star.
You know who David Beckham is, right?
Yes, he's amazing.
Okay.
And so they had several kids, right?
Yeah.
Now, their older son married a woman named Nicola Peltz,
who comes from a huge billionaire family.
Whoa.
And now...
She's kind of like an actress, like a...
Yes, she's very pretty.
She's got her own thing going on.
And then over the last...
They got married.
But since the last...
wedding, press has been reporting that there's a huge rift between baby Beckham and his family.
And basically, yeah, and people are like speculating what happened there?
What happened?
They don't speak.
They're estranged, blah, blah, blah.
But then little baby Brooklyn Beckham then came out and said, fuck my family, basically.
They did X, Y, Z.
They've tried to like, tell me I couldn't marry my wife.
Basically, he's standing with his wife.
Oh, okay.
But he's outing his entire family.
I think that's okay, no?
Well, saying that they're obsessed with the fame and social media,
but I actually didn't know that his wife was like also comes from like a rich family and all,
like billionaire family.
I didn't know that part.
Like when I read the thing, I was like, is she being, you know, manipulative or whatever?
Like because he's from like a rich family.
But she comes from a rich family too.
So why?
What's the whole situation?
They don't like her?
Like one of the things that he wrote was like, you know, his mom, Victoria Beckham was a,
fashion designer.
Yeah.
And on the 11th hour, apparently she was supposed to wear the,
Victoria Beckham dress for their wedding.
And Victoria Beckham, last minute, was like, nah.
But that's one side of the story.
One side, yeah.
But what's the, because I'm just so confused about the two,
but then they're like, oh, we don't like you, but what's the problem?
Brooklyn and his wife, Nicola, were like getting sick of all the talk in the
press about the drama between them.
And then he decided to, like, come forward to his.
Instagram like literally, you know, this past week and just be like, here's everything.
Like he basically went nuclear on his family.
And he says, I have, I don't want to reconcile with them.
And this is why I don't want to reconcile with them.
And what was the reason?
Top one reason.
Call it if he's telling me toxic.
He said that at his wedding, he was supposed to do his first dance with his wife.
But then his mom, like, hijacked the dance and did it instead.
They had hired Mark Anthony, the singer for their first dance, right?
And Mark Anthony was like, oh, my.
bring the most beautiful woman on the dance floor,
which was supposed to be the bride and out comes Victoria Beckham, the mom.
And apparently she's like dancing on him inappropriately.
Yeah.
I think that when you have so much money and so famous,
I think those, but it means a lot.
Do you mean?
You have to.
Because when you have everything already,
it's like this is the fucking first dance.
Mark Anthony is a very famous singer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a really famous thing.
and it's like the wedding so it's like a really big deal and then so the mom is like of course i'm the queen
she's not going to let some bitch take a fucking thing right or no toxic boy mom she's okay here i feel like
brooklyn beckham is 26 and absolutely no disrespect to the 26 year olds in the room cover your ears
i think at 26 you're such a child and like this is just a big mess and also what do we always say on this
show like the person who needs to speak out first is usually the one that's like a little crazy.
But I don't think he spoke out first.
What he was saying is that his parents had been planting stories in, you know, in the press for
a while and lies about him.
So he's saying they've actually manipulated this whole narrative about the family breakup
in their own way without having to actually explicitly come forward.
They're doing it in kind of like, you know, this way.
So he's like, fuck that.
I'm going to go with IG story.
And fuck you guys.
Fuck you guys.
I love my wife.
I just feel like it's like standard for your parents to like not like your spouse, you know.
Is it?
I don't agree with that.
No?
I don't agree with that at all.
And here's what I'll say like.
But the reasons aren't that crazy.
It's like, oh, the dress thing, the dance.
Like, that's not that crazy.
But I think that especially that's her first boy, right?
A lot has to happen that we're not seeing for any young man to cut contact with his family.
Like to go no contact is so painful even for someone who's 40.
Like imagine at 26.
Imagine being that young and being like, I don't want a relationship with my mom or siblings anymore.
Something big must have happened because I don't think any kid just does that to hurt themselves because it's painful.
They were close, right?
I remember.
And his siblings even.
So I don't know.
I think that there is something, even though I love the Beckham's.
I was like, oh my God, they're so funny.
I watched their reality show.
I think this poor kid is really like struggling with something.
And I think he's telling the truth.
Really?
Yeah.
What would it take for you to be like, I don't want to talk to my parents anymore?
It's been like a year.
Yeah, it's already started.
It's already.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It takes a lot.
But you're not married, right?
I am married.
Oh, you are married.
Okay.
Say your mom.
were to be like, I don't like your wife.
Fuck her.
I sewed this dress for her, but sorry, I don't want her to wear it anymore.
Which is being a cunt to your wife.
And I go like, it's fucking, all right, mom, love you.
Bye.
See you in like a couple months or something.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, that's how it would handle it.
You would do it differently?
Let's say your wife is privy to your like, mom, shit talking her.
Oh.
And then would you like, be like, mom, you can't talk about her like that.
Yeah, I would say that.
Okay, thank God.
Yeah.
I do think that in these situations, the wife tends to win.
Like when it's mom versus wife, I think the wife usually wins.
I hope so.
I hope that my son chooses his wife and his family.
His job is to leave the roost.
I am ancillary.
I am his support system if I am there, but I want him to be like a man of his own.
This bitch wants grandchildren.
I do.
And you know what?
what makes I'm going to assure
my insurance that my
grandchildren are close to me is that I am
kind to his wife that I love her
that even if she's a fucking cunt
come here you cunt
come here you fucking cunt you got a mouth on you but I
fucking love you bitch
like that's what that's my plan of action
don't talk about ACE that way
well this is what's happening right in the comments
is like there's people taking
you know the family side to like the wife's side
it's always that too beef it's like blood
is thick and water like that kind of thing
And I saw the comments and people actually are hating on Brooklyn a lot more.
Oh, no.
Yeah, because they're like, look at the sport.
Like, you wouldn't be shit unless your parents, you know.
But he didn't choose that either, though.
You know what I mean?
It's like he didn't fucking sign a contract that says, I'm going to do, I'm going to
participate in the family brand of it all.
Like, that's not a kid's job.
Well, what is going nuclear publicly against your family?
Like, what I don't know about that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You seem to be defending that a little bit.
Like, because I think that.
David Beckham and Victoria Beckham are the adults in this.
And if they're seeing that their son is pained by something, you fix it internally.
And you say, you know, whatever the fuck we've done, I want to remedy and I want to fix.
And I want to do whatever it takes to get us back together without you having to go nuclear.
You would do that though?
Yes.
And it's like, that's my son.
I want us to be a family.
Tell me the mistakes I've made and what's hurting you.
So I can fix it.
But I think like in Asian culture, Korean culture or in maybe like a British.
British England empire.
Do I mean, they have more of a piety thing, like a respect kind of thing, no?
Maybe that's what it is.
It's like the whole royal family kind of, you know, feel of everything because it's like they're
like, it's a brand, this is a royal family kind of thing.
I hate that.
We fucking up the brand.
I hate that.
Your kids are not your brand though, you know?
No, he's a brand, dude.
They don't have to participate.
His name is Brooklyn.
He's a brand.
Brooklyn Beckham.
And that was the least Brooklyn way to handle this, an IG story of like, man, my name.
wedding dress that's the least Brooklyn should ever.
Like dead ass.
It really is.
I'm trying to keep my, my mother lens on and I would just be like, son, like, I'm sorry.
What can I do?
I was wondering what, like, a male's perspective, like, what would you do if it was your son?
And then your wife is like, it's my fucking, you know what I mean?
It's my fucking.
Well, I'm assuming that he had this crazy wedding because this was funded by his family, right?
Bro, no, those are the terms.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's the terms of this wedding.
You're getting this wedding.
You're going to get a drunk mom who's going to dance up on you.
Like, there's a couple of, you know,
compromises you got to make, you know what I mean?
I mean, I just feel like if you want to not deal with this shit,
go have some broke-ass wedding, you know.
Elope.
Go somewhere else.
Yeah.
That is a good point.
20-person wedding in the backyard.
Like, go do that shit.
And you can do whatever you want.
You know what I'm saying?
Wait, wait.
I actually have a new thought to this.
because if his mom really was dancing up on him, like, inappropriately, for me,
my parents, like, will joke about their sex life in front of me.
And it, I love them, happy for them, but it is a very traumatic thing for me.
And it makes me very uncomfortable.
You can example what they would say.
You never called them one time?
I think I walked in on something once.
They had this weird special light on that had never been on.
And I was like something.
Yeah.
I immediately was like, ugh.
But they just, I can't even think of it because I blocked it out.
But they'll make these little jokes and they'll be weird.
And again, happy for them.
But it does affect me negatively.
How does you feel when you're like, they do like sexual?
It makes me like hate sex.
Like it makes me like so disgusted with the like concept of sex that I just get.
It's like why.
like turn into this like prude sometimes.
Oh, don't talk about that.
That makes perfect sense.
I know what you mean.
Because if it's something your parents do, then it's no longer a thing you kind of want to like inhabit.
Yeah, like ruins it.
And it's like traumatic.
And I'm not, again, I'm like not super articulate about it, but it is this weird thing.
And I'm wondering if like the Beckhams or like the posh and David are like hypersexual or something because they're so hot.
Well, they were both sex symbols in their.
hated. Sure, sure. And like I wonder if then like maybe like oh people are like oh whatever your
mom's dancing on you at your wedding but that could be like really deeply bad. I don't know if this
I'd like to see the footage. True. I think everyone would like to see the footage. Obviously.
But part of me feels like yes, I agree. If there's some hypersexual elements or whatever,
but also is he over exaggerating about this dance? You know? I don't know because he seems a little
bit like just one of them kind of kids like who's just overdoing this at least explanation.
I also, what he's complaining about just seems like, come on, bro.
I do think that there is something even more systemic that we're not pointing out, which is
old money versus new money. And I think that the peltz are old money billionaires. And the
Beckham and Posh are like they were from no money to a lot of money. And there is some type of
like cultural difference there between like the kind of money you come from because I think that
the wife's she comes from like kind of like old regal not ratchet money you know what I mean like
he's a soccer star and then she you know she was a pop star it's like dirty rich and Brooklyn's getting
adjusted to kind of that lifestyle you mean yeah and he's getting embarrassed about his like
kill Billy Billie billionaire from the parents from England
If like my parents said it like a, I would just laugh.
Maybe it's like different because I don't feel repelled.
But if they do like extra physical stuff, then I would feel weird.
But if they just say things, I never mind it because.
But did they say things?
My dad would like like wear underwear and then he would look at my mom and then he'll point out his penis and then point out my mom and then point out my mom and go like this.
That's crazy.
Wait, what does Shubong mean?
Shubong is like from here to there.
Wow.
Aggressively.
I'm almost sure that's worse than anything her parents have done it because that's crazy.
Brooklyn, you could have Shupong, okay?
That could have been, it could have been you.
That's what I'm saying.
But you could have Shupon, but my thing is like, that has nothing to do with it.
That has nothing to do with me, though.
Like, I'm not going to do a Shubong thing.
I'm going to do some other thing.
But what did you feel when Shupon happened?
Were you just like, ha-ha?
My dad would do it to me.
He would be like fucking shoe bono you next.
Seriously.
And I'm like, oh, that's fine.
A part of me would feel kind of happy if my parents did make those like kind of comments to each other because I'd be like, oh, they're still, they love each other.
I think that comes from more of a trauma thing for me because I never grew up where they were like happy with each other at all.
So if I heard a comment like that, I'd be like, oh, man, things are looking up.
Did you hear your parents say like, I love you to each other?
Never once.
Just this.
Just this.
Wait, do your parents say I love you to each other, like openly around you?
They're just like, it's always my dad saying like, you don't love me to my mom.
And then her being like, yes, I do.
And then giving him a kiss like this.
That's pretty cute.
That's how she kisses people.
It's like, how can I kiss you?
It's so weird.
That's really cute.
Okay, I think you can go both ways.
You can either traumatize a kid with being like love.
loving and like, you know, or it could be what, like you said, which is it would have been nice
to have something to model after.
Yeah.
I mean, my situation was my dad was like 36 years older than my mom.
So if they did anything that was like, oh, I probably would have not been okay.
Oh.
They did say I love you a lot and I like that.
There was like a lot of acts of affection.
Growing up, I feel like they didn't get along as much when I was in the house.
So I do understand that, which is almost like, okay, so I was the problem.
Like I left and now you guys are like happily married.
Can you explain?
Can you elaborate on that?
Why?
I should have left earlier.
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You know how you're like, I don't want to be sexual?
You have sometimes that feeling you're like, ew, I don't want to be sexual.
There is always...
You're going to be caught eating a banana?
Nah, come on, I'm secure with my manhood.
There's always been people in my life because I was a swimmer, right?
I mean, I was always competitive swimmer and always just this athlete who always point out
my broad shoulders at any given time.
If there was like a man in the room or someone else in their room, they felt the need
to remind me about my broad shoulders.
And there's this like little seed that is planted in my head that when it's,
time to have sex, I think of myself as just this big back dude. And I know it's like, it's hard for me
to explain it to like my therapist in like, this is an insecurity of mine. But it's, it's that
constant like, I cannot like sink into my like feminine self because I constantly think about
my broad ass shoulders. Is this stupid? Oh no, it's not stupid. That's how you feel. It's okay.
It's stupid. Who brings it up? You said your parents? No, not my parents. Just.
like people in my life or and it's I've always just laughed at it where I'm just like huh thank God
my partner now has like is like really big shoulders so to comparatively like I'm explains why he's
your partner yeah comparatively like I'm like a small damsel in distress compared to him but yeah it was
always like I felt so like brute around like dudes and I hated the way I felt like I was so
conscious of like what I looked like from the back because of my wingspan and like my last
You can't really do anything with cosmetic surgery for that either.
You just got to deal with the-
Bull-Ox on traps now.
Oh, you could.
I could never, I wouldn't do that.
You could shrink your shoulder-
Yeah, but you know, like it's, this is my frame because I swam for so long and it's just
going to be my frame forever.
But some guys like it though.
And most guys, I don't think they're like, oh, she's too broad shoulder.
I can't have said you there.
I think I would notice.
I know that.
I would notice.
Yeah.
I'm like, I'm linebacker over here.
Yeah.
I've seen women with that, hot women, too.
You know, it's like, that's not a, you know.
Hot women too.
Thank you.
Thank you for understanding.
But it's, I, I want to know if there's anything that in your head, you're just like, God, like, you constantly, chronically, like, think about.
No, everyone's super confident.
No, no, no, for sure there is.
But I'm just thinking, like, I've never even really noticed that you have broad shoulders.
It's just been, like, a joke I've heard.
And I'm like, I don't really get it.
And I keep laughing at it because I'm like, ha, ha, ha.
But it's like, okay.
Well, yeah, I mean, same with so many things.
But I also just feel like that's such a, to me as like a short little stocky, whatever I am, like broad shoulders is like feminine, ballerina, model.
Like I just, it's so interesting how you view things differently.
We have our things that we focus in on.
Yeah.
Like guys with hair loss and receding hair line, you know.
Yeah.
And I feel bad also almost even saying that because it's like, am I diminishing how.
you feel, but it is just weird to me that that's this insecurity on you.
And I'm like, what is you talking?
Yeah, it's so silly, right?
It's so silly.
I had a thing when I was having sex that I was insecure about was like when I had like
Korea town tatted across my chest.
Because I'd like I, you know, I'd mention my tat or something to like a girl that I went
on a date with or something like, she's like, really?
You got fucking Korea down tatted across her chest and they roast me.
And we'll hook up or something.
And I'm just thinking like, damn, she's seeing this like tribal.
piece on my chest with Koreatown on it, you know? And I'm actually getting it removed.
The whole thing? Yeah. It's almost gone. It's almost like fully gone. Oh, shit. Oh my God.
I liked it though. Yeah. Bring it back. It's too. Yeah, moving out of Korea town too. No, no.
Does it hurt to get it removed? Oh my God. It hurts 10 times worse than getting a tattoo.
They don't put like it's the worst pain I've ever had. They don't put like lytocaine? No, I don't know.
I think it takes longer because you have to wait until the numbing cream like settles in.
Dude, I feel like you should have just waited it out because like, honestly, like, for me, I was so insecure about my tramp stamp because it was like art on the wall when I was 16 and I was like, oh, I'll get that on my above my ass.
But it's circled back around.
Tramp stamps are like cool again.
I want one.
They're hot.
They're hot, right?
I mean, mine is so shitty, like really embarrassing, but I'm like, fuck it.
Well, my thing was more like acting and, you know, things like that.
Yeah, because it's a huge piece.
Yeah.
And it's like can't play a dude from Chinatown if I wanted to.
It's like, I can't just do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But maybe a dude from Chinatown that is Korean?
No, no, no.
It's done.
Mine is like I have armpit.
I have armpit sweat.
Oh, me too.
No, but then like I'll be having sex with my wife.
Yeah.
And then it would drip.
Oh, that's fine.
That's hot.
That's not an insie.
You shouldn't be.
Not for her.
Wait, you're in the act of physical something and you're sweating from a place that is known to sweat.
That's so okay.
But it's like.
like drip. And so a lot of the times I'll wear the inside. But I think your thing is okay too. But my and then I'll wear I'll put my shirt. I'll wear a shirt. But then I'll flip it back so that it catches. It catches. You have armpit. I totally feel that pain. So I have hyperhydrosis. I actually get Botox in my armpits because of this. Like my whole life that's an insecurity of mine with a big back. Wait, am I am I you?
But that right there, that's silly what you're doing. You didn't like it too. You think that I'm catching my.
armpit sweat with by putting my shirt behind my head like that no no no but i mean like you got so you
you didn't like it yeah i didn't like it but i'm just saying like having sex with a dude who puts
with just like little sleeves on with no is weird yeah yeah yeah dude i guess i don't know but i think
that's fine i can't have sex with like articles of clothing on like even socks really you cannot
Nah, like if I have socks on, like, I'm just having to like, hold up.
I got to take all my, take off my socks.
Like, it just doesn't feel hot.
Are you one of those that has to take all your pants off when you poo?
Oh, yeah, I do that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't do all that.
I should have known.
That's crazy.
No, that's like on the spectrum shit right there.
Like, for real.
Wait, even like airport bathroom.
Huh?
You have to take all your pants off?
But, like, if it's a comfortable bathroom, like a, you know, I take it.
What if you're at a party at my house?
I feel like you have a clean house.
I'm taking it off.
That's wild.
You're more than welcome to.
That's wild.
What if someone takes it?
What do you mean?
I put it on the sink.
Who's this is going to take it?
Like if you were like just lob it up, you know?
Oh no.
No, if it's that,
then I would just suffer with clothes.
It's not at your ankles.
You take it off.
If it's like an airport thing, I don't, I just leave it like it.
But then if it's like a comfortable thing, yeah, I take it off.
But when you piss at the stall, your pants aren't at your ankles.
Can I tell you something?
I just want to make sure that's not going.
I've seen some people doing that
And I'm like, y'all
Do you take your shirt off too?
Yeah, if I can't
If I'm like comfortable
Yeah, because it's the extra thing.
You know,
this is one weird thing that I do
Is that when I pee
Most of the time,
I face the toilet
I sit down and I face the toilet
You straddle it.
That's what my son does
When he's learning to potty train
It's the best.
It's so funny.
It's efficient.
I do that every time of the world
So you straddle like a lady on top.
Yes.
And then I put a hand over
for like for comfort and support
and then because gravity
it lets your dick and balls like hang in the middle
and then you don't have to hold it
your magic mic the toilet and shit
I'm grabbing on it
I'm like bro
wait I actually really stand
I stand by this because like the peeing to stand
is who invented that
because I think that sitting down to pee
is the more is cleaner is the more correct way right
Yeah, and then if you live with a girl, they don't have to, you don't have to like put it up or down.
So it's just.
Yeah, I think in Germany, too, they don't stand to pee over toilets.
I think they all sit.
I made this up.
Can you look up if the Germans all sit?
But that's the perk of having a dick is like you can pee anywhere, standing up anywhere.
You know.
You're like splashing.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying on the go though.
Yeah, on the go.
But yeah, if you're at house and stuff, like, take a seat.
Do you take a seat, though?
I have, yeah.
Why is that viewed as like...
I don't know why I'm uncomfortable, like, sharing that.
Yeah, I sit to pee.
Why is that viewed as possibly like not masculine?
It's so silly to me because it's just...
I know, it's like a thing that's ingrained.
Yeah.
But to be honest, you have your own crib.
Like, take a seat, man, relax.
Look, I didn't make it up.
The Germans do sit to pee.
Thank God.
It's called sit spinkler.
See?
What is it?
Sitzpinkler.
That's amazing.
I love that word.
Svinkler.
What can you tell us about your book?
Oh, my book.
It's called Spit Life in Battles.
It just follows, you know, my childhood all the way up until like my 20s where I was
battle rapping and got into hip-hop.
It's a memoir.
Yeah.
But it only goes up to like my mid to like little late 20s.
Yeah.
But it's cool.
I has like my family legacy, Korea town, Los Angeles roots.
And then me getting into hip-hop, battle rapping, just all my shenanigans as a teenager.
and I'm really proud of it.
I worked on it for three years.
Wow.
Because you have like a crazy life.
I don't know if it's crazy.
Well, you came from a container.
Wait, what?
You said I came from a container.
I mean, yeah, my mom, you know,
smuggled me and my younger sister in through the Mexican border.
Illegally to Coyote is like from Argentina to Mexico and into L.A.
This was when I was three and my sister was one.
So there's a lot of that story in there early on in the book.
And then just growing up in LA, it's like, yeah.
Is it hard when you're writing a book?
Like, are there people where you're like, ooh, they're not going to like this?
Like your mom or anything?
No, like, so I interviewed my mom.
And this was like the longest convo I've ever had with her, like ever.
And I hired like a friend to translate for me because that's always been a problem with communication with
my parents.
There's a language barrier.
So we can't really get in depth with stuff, you know?
We've talked about this last time I was here, like really get to the root of our issues.
with each other and her family and all of that.
And, you know, I've even tried to get my mom into some sort of therapy where it's a
Korean speaker and she doesn't want to do it because it's not in our culture to share
these things with a stranger.
You know, they found Bobby's mom is in therapy.
They found like a Korean therapist in Arizona.
I'd love to get my mom in something like that.
But I know what you mean because my mom, well, she's on, thank God, she agreed to be on Lexa
pro and her life is changing.
But we found her a Bessaiat therapist.
And same as you where she's just like.
you know, it's so like taboo still to like, why would I share my deepest, darkest with a stranger?
Yeah.
Yeah. Is she having a good time?
What?
Who?
Your mom.
Good time and what?
Like therapy.
She never, she didn't agree to it.
I'm trying to get her into therapy, you know what I mean?
Do you think therapy's a good time?
My mom can yap, though.
She can talk.
So I'm like, damn, if she was in that shit, you know, I don't even know if the therapist could take it, to be honest.
She goes in.
Did you find out new things about.
her journey. I found out new things for sure. Like I didn't know the details of that trek through
Mexico, all that stuff in the desert and what I was like doing and my sister was doing because we were kids,
we're the babies, you know. One. I was three. Oh, you were three. My sister was one. Yeah. Oh my God.
So that was really interesting to hear. And then also a lot of her stuff with my dad. You know,
my dad was like very violent, alcoholic and like he cheated. And it was like a very very,
very like juicy story about my dad cheating in there.
And I felt like it was fucked up.
But I was like, this is good for the book.
Give me more.
So there's like some crazy shit in there about that stuff.
And then, yeah.
You appreciate her more.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, she was crying through this like talk we were having and stuff, you know.
It's amazing I could put like my little bit about like my family legacy in there, you know.
But like it doesn't really paint my dad in the best light.
So I'm kind of worried too.
But I don't think he's going to read it.
So it's fine.
He's not going to read that shit.
Yeah, you could pre-order it right now.
I'm dead ass trying to make the New York Times bestsellers list.
Like, no shame.
Amazon.
And when does it come out?
April 14th.
And it's available for pre-order now, and it's called Spit.
Spit a life in battles.
I love the cover.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Love the blue.
So pretty.
Yeah, yeah.
My friend killed that.
And then it has, like, a lot of my, you know, rap battle stories in there.
And I talk about, like, how I kind of found myself and, like, like, my identity through
these rap battles when I was, like, battling a lot of people.
and they hit me with similar lines.
And it made me realize, like,
what people's perception of, like, an Asian person is
because you're getting hit with, like, very similar lines every battle.
Whoa.
And I was like, oh, okay, so this is what people think of Asian people.
And, you know, at early age, like, I kind of understood that, you know.
Does it make you almost, like, stronger because you knew what was going to be coming at you?
Yeah.
And it made me a little bit more confident and prouder of my heritage and, like,
also kind of teaching, showing them more, like, beyond what they may know.
about us. Yeah. Yeah, it's like heightened up my wit, humor, everything. The way I talk to people,
approach people, like if I step in a room with all black kids or all white people or whatever,
you know, it's just like really help me understand all of that, those relationships. I'm really
excited for it. It's going to be sick. Going to do a book tour and all that. Oh my gosh. Okay,
that's exciting. What about you, Jason? What did you say like that? Wait. I got to be
coming out too. When did you move here? Because you immigrated, right? Yeah, 14.
Damn. Similar to me. Oh my God. I'm so glad you're a fucking fob. No, he's a fob. 14 is a
15. I was 14, 15 right around there. Yeah. I'm assimilated. You are not. You're not. You're like me. You're a
fucking dirty food like me. To LA. You're not assimilated. To LA. Oh, San Diego and did yeah.
Oh, I feel like fobs, especially if you're Asian, come here.
here like later like around you guys. We're 1.5ers. I think you guys are smarter, you know,
like I settled into American stupidity like early. You know, like you guys came through with the
tradition of like, you know, really appreciating education and stuff and came here.
I will say we're kind of like we belong everywhere and nowhere because it's like when there's
like beef between the first generation, second generation or even like in the Philippines,
like Filipinos versus Filipino Americans
and I always see this beef on TikTok
and they fucking hate each other right?
I see both sides
and I understand it really, really well
where I'm like, oh yeah, I get it.
If you have to choose one side, which one?
Philippines all the way.
I have a lot of respect for people back home, dude.
Like, I really do.
I think my childhood was very difficult
but like so cool.
I had so much perspective.
Will someone please take the banana peel out of Jason's hand?
Give it to me.
You're gripping it too hard.
You know, I grew comfortable with you.
I can tell and I don't want that to happen to you.
Wait, but how was your transition here since you fully assimilated?
I would say I'm not fully assimilated.
No, you have, bro.
You have?
Yeah, yeah.
You're assimilated enough.
I was just trying to shit on you because I'm not fully assimilated.
I am fully assimilated.
Oh, you are?
Yeah.
You're never going back, bro.
No?
I don't know.
I think I'm like 51, 49, maybe.
Like 51 assimilated 49.
Yeah, maybe.
There's some like Taiwanese or just Asian cultures that I still,
appreciate, but yeah, mostly, mostly American thing.
Taiwan is cool though.
You like it?
I like Taiwan a lot.
Everything about Taiwan is cool. It's so small, it's so like progressive.
One thing I don't know why this is on my mind is a negative thing and I'm supposed to say a
positive thing about Taiwan.
But I feel like Taiwanese people don't really help or stand up for other Taiwanese people.
Really?
Of course, there's a small amount of people that stand up for Taiwanese, but I think the culture
in general is just, um,
they don't do that.
That's why when I first came here,
I have mostly Korean friends.
Just because like when I was getting jumped
and getting my ass beat,
they didn't help me.
Were there other Taiwanese people around
that could have helped you?
Yeah, they're like looking, looking.
I'm surprised Koreans helped you.
I'm just saying like, you know,
they probably thought you were Korean.
I started to make friends with them.
They were like bully me too.
Yeah.
But they're like, I was fine.
Well, for me, white people won't
podcast with me, so now I'm Asian.
I want white people podcast with you.
I feel like I'm a top 10 Asian podcaster at this point.
Right?
Like, I have to rank.
I think so.
You've assimilated.
Yes.
Welcome to the Asian sphere.
Wait, so how did you then, I know this is like the most annoying question.
Like no one wants to be asked that, but I, I'm so like, how did you end up in stand up?
Like you came here at such like later age.
This is so hack for to say that because I want to kill myself or whatever.
And I was like, if I were to kill myself or whatever, what I, what do I, I wanted to do
three things and a bit if I kill myself.
And then one of it is like, get a motorcycle license because I always, why'd you laugh like that?
That's a weird thing.
Because I wanted to ride like, you know.
Where did you want to ride to?
Like New York maybe.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you know, cross country like motorcycle diaries.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I like the open baguette.
Yeah, yeah.
I see it on TikTok.
And then another one would be a white water raft.
Whitewater rafting.
Yeah.
And, you know, with some friends.
That'll be cool.
Those are the three things?
Yeah, and then stand up.
And then the only reason.
Wait, did you want to kill yourself for real?
Yeah, I thought, yeah.
Me too.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a crazy.
I was in a psych hospital three times in high school because I kept trying to kill myself.
But white water rafting was not on my list.
Well, you have failed many times.
I failed a lot.
You even failed at that, the simplest thing.
Yeah.
And then I was like, maybe do stand up and say some stuff.
And then it just, and I didn't do well the first time.
But I just like saying stuff.
And because you say stuff and people listen to it.
Because most of Asian culture, you listen, you know, you listen to your parents.
or whoever.
Because, yeah, and schooling is, you know, seven to seven.
And I was a terrible student anyways.
And, yeah, and I didn't know what else, you know, what's another thing.
I'm always fascinated by, like, fobs who get into stand-up because they're somehow
pick it up so crazy, like the American, like, language and how to structure a joke and
stuff.
You know, I'm talking about, like, whether it's, like, Zhao Yang and, like, Ronnie Chang,
you know, like, it's just, like, interesting because they come so late, you know, to the country.
And somehow, like, they finally.
like a weird way of approaching
certain jokes and structures too
that's sometimes not even American but like
really smart you know
and I think that is kind of bringing
over like some like smart
shit from like other countries like their
educational system or how their brain works
and stuff too so okay this is what I'm picking
up okay you came here at 14
immigrant you fob
like me armpits
sweat like me
wanted to kill yourself
like me
white water rafting
water sports like me.
But I'm not a good water guy though.
I think coming here at that like weird tweenie age is like not even tweenie.
It's like already, you know, in high school is fucking hard and weird.
It's a very challenging time for anyone no matter what.
It's weird.
Did you feel it?
I didn't feel it.
I didn't feel it until like in hindsight because I think I was just surviving.
I didn't have a chance to like even have an opinion about what was happening around me until like I got older and I was like, whoa,
That was weird, I think.
You know?
Like everything.
Like we've told this story so many times.
Like my doctor literally molested me for years and I didn't know it was happening.
And that's what I'm saying.
I didn't know anything because I was just surviving each moment, I think.
And because you're a teenager.
Like you're not trying to make sense.
But the doctor.
Yeah.
Because sometimes like even when you go to like Chinese like acupuncture like to cure like a back pain, they like poke your finger.
And you're like, oh shit.
That's how it works.
You know?
So you're like, oh, pussy back.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yes.
I say the same.
The weirdest one is to check the tongue.
Like, what is the tongue thing?
Oh, yeah, they have to like, yeah.
The acupunctures, yeah.
I'm like, this is weird.
Oh, because isn't it like if it's red or pink?
Yeah, like white pink or something.
Yeah, or if you have buzz on there.
I don't know.
My tongue never gets a good diagnosis.
If I'm being honest.
Hey, look at your tongue.
They're like, you ain't jolly rancher, didn't you?
Every so often, everyone on social media gathers together.
And they all commit to doing something absolutely humiliating and pathetic.
And it's happening right now.
Just everyone is posting themselves from 2016.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to have a horrible take on this that no one is going to like.
I hate it.
I think it's weird.
I think it's sad.
And I'm not into it.
You're not participating.
I'm not participating.
I don't like looking back.
What are you talking about?
You were like high school.
You want to go, you want to jump back into high school.
So if someone, you want to go way back.
Yeah.
10 years ago.
You want to go 20 years back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you talk about like wanting to do high school all over again, right?
Yeah, that's true.
But like, I don't want to look at pictures of me 10 years younger and like face that.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, and I feel like you're able to look at like pictures of your baby as like a newborn and growing up.
I can't do that because then I'm just going to get so sad.
What?
Because I'll be like,
Oh my God, she's not that small anymore.
Like, I miss it.
Like, looking at old photos, like TBTs, anything, like, it's so, I get so sad.
Like, I cannot handle it, period.
I don't know.
It's more sad when you're old.
Like, I'm turning 40 next year, right?
So, like, 2016, I'm still, like, 30.
And I'm just, like, like, grown as fuck still.
It just looks like last week.
You know what I mean?
And then, like, all these other 2016 photos, they just, like, look drastically different.
Yeah.
So it's not really fun for me and shit, you know?
I'm on that same boat.
I look back at 2016.
like it was just like yesterday.
But then like from my niece, she was what?
14.
You know, like 14 to 24 is such a big jump.
It wasn't that drastic for me.
I didn't have anything interesting to share.
Yeah, there's nothing.
I don't know.
What about you?
I didn't know why people were doing 26.
Why did they choose that year?
10 years.
Oh, 10 years.
Oh, I didn't know.
But yeah, if you want posted, post it, post it.
But I'm like, whatever.
And then I feel like a purve because all the girls like that I follow that I think are hot.
They're hot.
They're like kids and shit.
I'm like, what the fuck?
When they start following this, I'm following this,
I know that is so creepy.
I think it is like the 10 years, but also we don't do this every year.
I think it is more specifically that like the fashion is moving away from the 2000s, Y2K
and into like the 15, 16, mid 2000s, which I also personally feel like I know when low-rise jeans came back and they are still back,
they're just barely becoming back.
People feel really attacked by that because it's like, you know, not comfortable, whatever.
But for me, skinny jeans, like that era did me so dirty.
And I am just, I'm not willing to go there.
No, the fashion was bad.
I know.
It was like, oh, my, you know, the girls, the head, the fedora joints that are, is bad, dude.
But people are like wanting it.
Yeah.
It's freaking me out.
I'm not going there.
Like, I'm not doing this.
Let's play the game.
Let's participate in.
What do you guys have?
We got it.
Just a couple from each of you guys.
Before we start, do you guys think also maybe.
is a little bit because it's a pre-Trump era.
2016 was right before he got elected and people are like looking back before the downfall.
Oh yeah, I did see a comment about that.
It's like the one year before Trump got elected, right?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Right, I guess that's true.
Like it's such a defining difference in culture.
All right.
First up, how's a nice picture?
Oh, Gobi.
This is really, this actually makes me want to cry because this is, she's 10 years old now.
And this is the year she was born and I adopted her.
Your fashion looks like you do fire dance.
You know, like, the shit you have on those slingshots and shit.
Can I tell you that, like, my hair had, like, I hadn't had blonde money pieces in there.
I can see that.
And that's, like, really embarrassing.
I also was wearing camo sweatpants with, my hiking shoes are still cool.
But the fanny pack, I only give a shit about the fact that this was Gobi's first year of life.
And now she's 10.
Oh, I used to hike a lot.
And I was very skinny and my body was
T.
Do you see how sad you are?
You could say this was yesterday.
I've been like, oh, I agree.
You want to see my body right now.
I'll fucking show you post-martim.
It is not like this.
My arms were toned as fuck.
I had abs that were just unstoppable.
Does this not prove my point?
I'll bring it back.
I'll bring it back.
Yeah.
10 years, 2026, watch me.
Oh.
That's nice.
Oh my God, I can't handle this game.
Make it stop.
Yeah, 2016 was the first year.
We had only been a couple months into Tiger Belly.
Yeah.
I can't do that.
2015 was our first year.
2016 was our second.
And we were peek in love.
Yeah.
We were eating at Taco Bell.
Nothing was going to stop us.
That's not Taco Bell.
At Del Taco.
You had me at Cheese Stuff's show.
That's like, how did you know so quickly?
That's not Taco Bell has never had that marketing.
My God.
And this was in Baker's Field.
He was going to do a show at some private country club and it was a nightmare.
Oh, damn.
Yeah, there was like no one was listening to him do stand up and guess what?
Over the weekend, he just filmed this special in front of a sold-out crowd.
So times have changed since our little, and we lived in a two-bedroom apartment that was like really disgusting.
You've been there.
Yep, yeah.
Yeah, this was peak in love Bob and me.
It's cute.
What are we doing?
All right, let's move on away from me, please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you look the same.
Is this an ICE detention center?
What is this?
What the hell is going on over here?
What the hell's going on, bro?
What's going on, fan?
I'm just curious, like, the cots and everything.
I was at an airport.
That's it.
Okay.
This isn't an airport.
Why are there cots?
Well, it's because, like, the flights was shut.
Like, a ton of flights was shut.
down and I had to I had to they gave everybody cots and stuff at an airport oh they do that I think
they have like extra budget or something that day or something but then yeah they give the whole airport
I think it was wow like the whole airport was dark and then everybody had caught there's like
just cod that's wild I kind of appreciate that I never knew that they offered any nice things for
anybody but I think that was like a once-in-a-lif-lif-a-lif-lif-lif-a-lif-lid-lid they'll always give you
caught, but then there was just that one time.
Were you doing stand-up at that point?
Yeah, I was doing stand-up.
And I think this was like the third layover.
I was doing a cruise ship or something.
Because they book, you know, when they booked the flights, they book the cheapest
corporate, you know, it's like $36 or something.
And you got to fly to London before you can get to Arkansas.
Yeah.
You need a roundabout.
Transcontinental.
Yeah.
I'm like getting there in a week and I'm fucking sleeping at airport.
But I was grateful, but also not really, you know.
Whoa.
Who is that?
Nichelle Murdoch.
You know what the thing is?
I was talking about this with my friend.
The black community and comedy space people, they, they gave me so much opportunity
before the Watts or Asian.
But I know Asian doesn't have them.
Dunfinal gave me an opportunity, which is really nice.
But yeah, Nichol Murdoch is one of the, she's like one of the first people that gave me
an opportunity to perform at the comedy store.
And I really, really appreciate her.
And she puts so many comedians on.
Yeah, so I really, that was a good time.
I can't picture you smiling like that.
Yeah.
What happened?
Is that good?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
No.
The sprinkled donut lipstick.
That's crazy.
That's cute, though.
You don't like that?
No, I actually am fine with it.
I love the line under the eye.
Thank you so much.
Is that a big no-no now?
And like, whatever looks good on me, I'm doing it.
You know?
I don't care what's cool.
This might have been when I was shooting alone together.
We wrote an episode where, like, I thought there was going to be an earthquake.
And so I had, like, my earthquake kit.
And it was just all, like, like, McDonald's toys and, like, sprinkle lip tattoos and juicy couture.
I went to Vegas, and they sold those tattoos.
like sugar factory, which was like a big candy store in Vegas.
Obviously, when I went to Vegas, I didn't know what else to do but go to a candy store.
That's a cute one.
Good luck.
See, yeah, I'm young and, oh, donut.
Oh, my God, baby donut.
It's the year she was born too.
Yeah, baby donut.
She's here?
She's still, yeah.
She's a fucking bitch now, though.
She's like a little old lady who hits everybody with her purse.
She's so mean.
And she was mean.
then too. I love baby
donut. Your face was
really wholesome. Oh.
Nothing has anything changed.
You're right. You know, still beanie flannel.
It's not, the style doesn't even look
that different, to be honest. Oh.
Interesting look. You do look
a lot more baby face there.
I was like kind of skinny
fat because I was still drinking
a lot and stuff. The style of this
photo is very 2016.
Does it? Don't you think?
Actually, the pants were
I cut it off, but it's like up here, like the kind of the, remember those pants?
What are that?
Yeah.
High waters.
Would you wear that now?
No, I don't think so.
Yeah.
With a fully exposed ankles.
Yeah, it's high waters and it was like low, low, low, low, low fans.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, like.
It's like skating.
Yeah, it was kind of like that.
Is that a beret or a beanie?
It's a beanie.
Okay, thanks God.
See, back then, you know, more people were in a tuck, you know, the kids these days were
wearing the no tuck.
So some things have changed.
I feel like I'm trying to keep up.
Keep up with the kids.
Oh, that was a cute.
See, the guys get off Scott Free.
They're like, oh, it's fine.
But for us, we're sad now, aren't we?
I'm not sad.
I like to face big feelings and feel them through.
I like to just look ahead.
I cannot.
Oh.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
Honestly, yours hurt me more than mine hurt me.
You and Bobby?
Me and Bobby.
That hurts everyone still?
Come on, guys.
Only me.
Only me.
I think, no, it hurts people.
It's said to me a lot of times.
People are invested.
Really invested.
Yeah, it's like, come on.
It's been for years.
It's okay.
We're still friends.
I was just at his house cleaning yesterday.
Nothing's changed.
I talked to this pool guy.
Still taking care of my little baby boy forever.
How did the special taping go?
Amazing.
Incredible.
I was there.
Really?
Which one?
What night?
The last show of the four.
He lost his voice of,
Friday. So then I got a concierge doctor. He thinks it was a shady doctor, but it wasn't. It was a
legit doctor to give him a steroid shot. And so he didn't have a voice before the first show.
I heard you got a steroid shot or something. Yeah, he got the steroids shot. It worked so well.
Yeah, you couldn't tell. I can't, I can't speak. I can't speak. I can't, I can't speak. I can't, I can't speak now.
And he was able to sing because he sings in it. Yeah, like it was crazy. No, you couldn't tell.
Yeah. And it was really good. It was very proud of him.
He did so proud of him.
He was, he did incredible.
He was ready.
Yeah.
It's not keep reminiscing about our love, though.
That's our episode.
We're going to do a little more stuff on the Patreon if people want to join us there.
Dumbfounded.
I don't know how to address you.
Mr.
Dead.
The new book.
April 14th.
You can pre-order it now.
You can pre-order it now.
On Amazon?
Yeah.
And then there'll be physical copies in bookstores all across the country.
spit a life in battles it's a memoir there will be an audio book as well so and i feel like from what
you said there's going to be so much in there that's like juicy personal details but also like
just the experience of like learning about yourself from i don't know it's a coming of age
yeah just like a young Asian kid growing up in l.a because just there's stuff you were explaining
that i'm like i relate to that and i probably shouldn't but i do no that's not that's
I want to do.
I want to get more,
I want to reach more women
than just like young dudes.
Yeah.
No,
I'm so excited to read it.
And Jason,
are you on,
first of all,
Jason's stand-up is like
otherworldly,
so funny.
Your bit about not having
strong opinions is so,
it's so good.
Thank you for being nice.
Yeah,
are you going to be on tours
or is there anything we can plug?
We want to find you on Instagram.
Yeah, I would love it.
If you like me,
please come.
But if you don't,
It's okay, fuck you.
I feel the same way, by the way.
Please don't come if you don't like me.
You're at Jason Chenney on Instagram.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, thank you so much.
This was so much fun.
Kalila, anything else?
Nothing.
I got nothing.
But you know what?
I do.
No one mentioned that this was a sleepover episode.
I need you guys to know.
I didn't wear just wear pajamas for fun.
Okay?
I took the homework seriously.
I do feel bad.
I do feel bad.
I did look for mine and I lent them to my mom.
I couldn't find them.
Okay.
And you guys,
we have our live show in LA
tomorrow night, Wednesday, January
28th at the Comedy Store.
You can get tickets at the link below.
We're very excited.
We have a lot of crazy shit planned
and we'll see you there
and we'll see you next week
with a brand new episode
or over on the Patreon.
Thank you guys so much.
Thank you.
