Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Getting Messy With Peter Kim

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

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David Soe. Hello. Sorry, I'm racist and I tagged you as David So. I know that you're not David So. It's Peter Kim. Hi, I'm back. Nothing made me laugh harder. That was so funny.

Truly though it made my day. So thank you for that. No, that was so funny. And I didn't even notice. I think it was you. It was David So. I think it was you. See that it happened again.

I think it was you posted. No, David's so messaged me. I know. He's like, I forgot what he said to me, but something like, this isn't me. No, but he actually posted a story on Instagram. Oh, God. He was probably the happiest of anyone from that mistake. Yeah, he was like, finally a shout out.

Are we going to talk about Alex versus Alex? Yes. Please, I'm dying. We have to. Okay, because look, we don't really want, it's, no one wants women on women to fight. But we love blondes on blonde. Yes. This is when the brunettes can step in and take power.

100%. It's never our time. It's always the blondies. I agree. Also, here's the thing about the both of them is that they're very much literally at the top of their game. That's why it's okay to watch them fight. Right. Yeah.

Because it's punching up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Does anyone have a definite side they're on? Should we explain to the audience just in case they don't know? I think you should because you're amazing at that. Okay. So Alex Earle versus Alex Cooper, there's an online beef happening.

Yeah. They used to be friendly. Alex Earl is a Get Ready With Me gal that like blew up. And Alex Cooper is a podcaster call her daddy and all of that. So they're both huge on the internet. I genuinely like to your point, there is no one more successful in our culture right now, I think, than those two. I think they're the two biggest blondes right now. For sure.

100%. Yeah. So Cooper had Earl on her. her network on well. And then things kind of just, you know, dissipated and they said goodbye. Right. But it was like unclear. It was unclear why. And they were, for like a year, they've been like sub-tweeting and like- We've been down that road. Unclear exits. Yeah. Earl left and we didn't know. And then recently Earl was reposting like some kind of like nastier things that internet people were saying about Cooper. And then Cooper came out and said, hey,

at me, stop sub-tweeting me, like say exactly what the beef is. And we were all shocked because we were like, whoa, I thought we were just being passive aggressive.

That's kind of our thing. Like, why are we being so affront about this? Like, you're really changing the game. And Earl responded, okay, on it.

On a comment. Yeah. On the comment said, like, okay, on it. Right? So, and then... We've been on it for a week and a half.

We've been waiting. Yeah. Two weeks. But this Bloom, Newburgh news article came out of nowhere. And I'm like, okay, so the article was about Alex Cooper and Unwell Network and her husband, Matt Kaplan. Yeah, Matt Kaplan.

And how he yells allegedly. Yes. And how they're like basically bad for the business environment because they're screaming and people are working overworked and stuff like that. Right. I'll just say from my experience in life in general, I don't love a handsome tall Jewish man. Okay, speak on that It's just trouble

I just I'm always going to be Actually guilty until proven innocent With a tall Jewish guy I don't I don't trust you Your mother loved you too much Like too many privileges Yeah I don't know Yeah I agree with

Can the mother love A little brown Filipino Hawaiian boy too much I don't think so right I don't have the experience there He's got to be little He's a big boy He's going to be tall. Yeah.

I plan on loving him. That's the Jewel. Yeah. Okay. But that said, now that I do have my own Jewish son, I will have to figure that out. But he's not going to be tall, so it should be fine. Okay. Okay.

So now that article came out, and I'm like, what kind of like questionable timing for this article to come out when Alex Earle still were waiting for a response. So in my head, in my conspiracy brain, I'm like, did she have anything to do with this? Did she like help PR people kind of like push this narrative out? It is interesting. It almost feels like everyone's passing the buck when it comes to like this potential like Alex Cooper is bad like conversation. It's like, you know, her ex podcast co-host Sophia kind of like pushed it down and then it went on to Alex Earl. Alex Earl push it down. and then it went to journalism.

By the way, great for Sophia, who's releasing a book very soon. Totally. Like, who's not going to buy that book? Atella? Oh, my God. Yes, I'll read it. And it's, like, no shade truly to anyone involved. Like, I consume and appreciate the content of, like, all these people to a certain extent.

Like, I think they're exciting parts of our culture. But, like, we said, like, when the blondes fight, when the skinny blondes fight, the medium brunettes can step in and take over. Yes. And so, like, you know, we have to just do our part. Yeah, I'm curious, like, if it were you in these scenarios, who do you feel like you'd act? Like, would you be the retweeter, the sub-tweeter, poster, whatever? Or would you be the like, hey, what's, what is it? I'm toxic.

I'm the latter. I guess I don't know if that's toxic or not. You're the passive-aggressive? No, I'm the aggressive-aggressive. Yeah. Like, I like a fight. But the thing is, like, I wouldn't be aggressive-aggressive-aggressive if I didn't have a leg to stand on. Right.

you got to have the goods yeah you better have receipts you better have backup you better know like how the fight's going to go but even if you have the goods what it's sometimes you don't want to be a i don't know honestly i think that uh receipts are a thing of the past and people can conspire in their own minds about you know it's like there's no proving yourself right and there's no proving anyone else wrong anymore there's always going to be sides regardless and that's just a something you have to accept in your soul you're not going to have people fully like you and fully believe you no matter like how truthful or how correct you are so it's like if you're a public figure you make peace with that very quickly or you will die a very painful death i think you just said something that

should be like like etched in stone like everyone need that is that was beautiful and painful Thank you. That comes from personal experience. Yeah, it's just a true. It's like even if today I were to do a tell all of like the past five years in my life, it's like this is my truth and this is what happened and here are all the voice recordings and hear all the receipts. People are committed to a side and it will stay that way. And that's just you make you you, you just let it go. Let go let God be. Yeah.

Yeah. You're right. I wonder if either of them or if maybe like Alex Cooper feels, feels that. And that's what made her say, like, what, stop this game? What do you have? I don't know. It's, it was a really bold, and I'll say it, impressive move on her part. It was.

Because everybody was sort of, I feel like the culture was like, the vibes were like, oh shit, like, Alex Earle's like getting her. But then it's like, whoa, Alex Cooper just basically like won unless she, unless something huge comes out. Right. People are very, like, enraptured, like, by Alex Earl for. And they are not going to ever hear out the truth. What Cooper has to say. It doesn't matter. Well, there's always going to be that subsection.

But I think there's a largest subsection like us. We're kind of like, I don't have really sides. Like, I don't care. But I do want to know. We're too old to have a side. No. And like they're so young. Like Alex, I was like 20 something years old.

So like I can't get into the business of like Gen A, Gen Z fights. But it is very interesting how Cooper. came at it because even media strategy wise like that's like a checkmate yeah because like what can earl do now like if she doesn't bring out like some kind of nasty like predatory stuff on her like she looks stupid right it's kind of like the drake and um a kendrick fight yeah like Kendrick just completely decimated him yeah and then like Drake had no like to stand on oh is that way Drake has kind of been like out of a Yeah because Kendrick just obliterated

him like the smithereens like With a song Many songs well many songs Three songs but one of them He performed at the Super Bowl And he did not bleep a word out Like he was like you're a predator A minor

A minor Certified pedophile Certified pedophile Yeah Is that truthful We can't say We can't Please make that a two shot

It almost doesn't matter anymore. Oh, see, that's what it's... Nothing. What the fuck? The truth doesn't matter? We're not stressful. The bad guys are really banking on this. That nothing matters. If nothing's being done about the Epstein files, nothing matters.

And it makes me so utterly sad. Speaking of Epstein about, it's like, I feel like if Alex Earle doesn't point to an Epstein email saying Alice Cooper was at the island. Yeah. I think it's Cooper won this. I think so. That is, yes. Right? Yeah.

Like you need to come out. At this point. Because like we will go after women who are in the files, but not men. Like doctors. Women and doctors only. Exactly. We're taking out. Who's,

whose content do you consume more of? Oh, I for sure consume more. Alex. I'm on the Alex Cooper side of the world. Yeah. I'm just not. You know, Alex Earl when she was doing like the fun college party girl, get ready with me.

It was not, I was already way past that part of my life. So I could not like relate. A hundred percent same. I was actually so shocked with how big she was amongst like the young people. I remember she came up with Brooke Skofield and Brooke was like loved Alex Earl. And I just was like, oh, I just have, this hasn't reached me. Like I'm just too old for it. Yeah.

With Alex Cooper, I was an OG call her daddy listener like. Yeah. You know, so there's, what about you? Definitely Cooper because she's like broken through to the main. stream. Yeah. Like she's become, for lack of a better term, like a late night host almost. Yeah.

Right? Where like people go to spill tea at her thing. Alex Earle, I feel like, here's the like stupid gay bitch part of me is that. My favorite part. I find Alex Earl to be so fucking pretty that like I can't stop looking at her. Oh. And that makes me like engender myself towards her. And I know that.

sucks because it's just like aesthetics but like that's that's you're allowed that as a stupid gay bitch yes thank you that is my right yeah like she's so pretty and so like stunning looking that i'm like okay you might be maga but like you're so hot like you're so pretty yeah these young hot republicans are really coming and strong these days it's kind of scary do you ever get videos from dana mom to four who's that do you i don't think so but this is sounds familiar. She's like one of those, she's just like a mom that gives mom tips and people are like she's MAGA and it's, you're right. It's like young hot MAGA women are. It's their time. Yeah, because look at all like the, um, the secret lives of Mormon wives. Yeah. Like 100% of them.

Look how huge they are. They're all. Little Republicans. But none of them say it out loud. But they're all yeah, they're all mad. They're all like hush, hush. It's like if you have to be hush, like doesn't that mean you know it's bad? Exactly. So what the fuck? I know. It's confusing. So my friends are producing a movie and they wanted to offer the lead role to a guy. I'm just going to say it. Now I forget his name.

Wait, who's the guy? What I heard from my friend who's producing this movie said they reached out, they were about to reach out to him. And then they ended up changing their minds because they heard that he is in, Maga pocket. Apparently there's like celebrities that are very left facing that are

secretly being funded by the Trump's and Jared Kushner and Ivanka. That feels really crazy to me. That doesn't feel crazy. Why? Because money is money. What's the benefit to anyone in that? Besides someone getting paid.

They get to control him. To do what? Anything they want. I don't know. Maybe I'm like take him on a yacht to you know. Oh, like for Make him yacht boy. He's a yacht boy.

A yacht man. He's a yacht man. He's a yacht man? Everyone's like a yacht girl or a yacht boy. Going back to stupid gay bitch, I have this as well where I will love a celebrity fully based on their looks. I don't know anything about. I'm just like that. There's a singer who never quite broke through mainstream in America, but her name was Foxes.

And I think her Instagram is like, I am Foxes. Fox's F-O-X-E-S. Her face, like, I just, there was like two years of my life where I would just wake up and look at her face every. Like, she's so beautiful. And I never heard one of her songs. But, like, if she were to come to, I remember, I would always check, is she going to come to a show in L.A.

Never once listen to a song, but I was going to go to a show. Just to see her face. Yes. Wow. Like that, I had that. That's the power of beauty. Yes. Look at.

Oh, she's gorgeous. Do you see what I'm saying? Do you see why I lost my mind? Yeah, she's really pretty. Anyways, Alex versus Alex. Alex Earl does seem so beloved and like a nice person. Especially after Dancing with the Stars, her like Star Meter went crazy. Oh, I didn't realize that.

Yeah, she had a great run. Oh, she was incredible. Yeah. On Dancing with the Stars. Not better than Whitney. Levitt. I mean, Whitney was amazing. Yeah.

What a great villain redemption, though, because she was so hated. that season on Mormon wives. And then she went on dancing with the stars and everyone was like transfixed and like obsessed with her. I love that we're seeing that more in our culture now. Women are dancing their way out of villainhood. I think so.

That's my plan. You think that I would have to first become a villain. I'm going to do some bad shit and I'm going to dance. I need to take some dance lessons because I feel like that's my only way. Wait, I could see you doing dancing with the stars. Oh, I could do it. Absolutely. you know in an athlete kind of way maybe

but I'm so on a scale from zero to Filipino and a Filipino I mean like full blown dancing ability I am maybe at best a 3.5 that a Filipino 3.5 is better than anything else like but it would be very like technical and not natural like ability you wouldn't be able to like smile through it no no I would be like counting in my like yes sweating

I would have no personality behind the dance part of it and I feel like you're the kind of person that when you decide you're going to do something, you do it. Yeah. But you would see it in my face. I'd be like a full grimace the whole beginning. But I could see you coming out of your villain era through Dancing with the Stones. Because, you know, like, you've, the last five years, you've had like a tainted YouTube

experience. Yes, a tainted YouTube experience is the sweetest way anyone has ever put it. I know. I don't want to go full bore. You know, I just want to speak a little bit about things were going so smoothly with Madonna, right? Yeah. She announces Confessions Part 2. We're like, okay, this is literally the greatest thing you could have done for all of us.

Like, finally someone is just like doing the right thing with music. Then she shows up at Sabrina Carpenter. She's amazing. She's beautiful. She kills it. She's so herself on stage. And then she has to announce the worlds that her clothes were stolen. Like, don't you feel like she could have just let it go?

Wait, tell me, I don't know about this. Her clothes were stolen? You guys, the day after Coachella, the Monday after, she posts on Instagram, like, my vintage outfits from my archives are missing. Someone took them and someone needs to do the right thing. These are part of history. And I'm just like, look, that sucks. But like, you are one of the greatest artists, most successful artists of all time.

Like, can you take one loss and just let's all move on? Like, and I am the biggest. Are people, like, weird about it? Are they like, why are you even? I just I I I I that's me that's me as the I'm a big Madonna fan like I literally taught Madonna 101 as an extracurricular my freshman year of college whoa like queen like things have been rocky for the last five years and we were going it was going well yeah take the hit yeah yeah not a victim she called 911 I don't know I don't know I mean what do you think am I wrong

I don't know because like saying it on Instagram is kind of cringe. Like, just do it privately. Like, I wouldn't post that if I was Madonna. How do you feel about celebrities like going off on airlines when they've had a bad airline experience? I haven't seen that one, but it's painful to watch. I don't like seeing that on threads, like even comics who are like, hey, at Delta, really doing a fantastic job here at ORD, can't get out, you know, and then they're like,

sick them, fans, you know, and they're like, what? your 100,000 followers, like you're going to make them like bombard Delta's, like Twitter. It is. It's just as such a like, you get to see what people do when they've lost control. That's it.

And they can't control. And like as someone who is like, will be also going crazy in that moment, you got to keep it to yourself. Yeah. Like it's got, you're not being personally attacked by United. And unless you're the Asian man being physically dragged

on that, You know, was it United or Delta? I don't want to say the wrong one. I forget who it was. Physically dragged out of their bloodied. Like, I think that we can let it go publicly. We don't have to let it go privately. Yeah.

We can take their right steps and measures, but let's not take it to IG stories maybe. There's a close friends for a reason. Yes. And do you really think, does any one celebrity think they're that powerful that they're going to take down Alaska Airlines? Like lately, I know. I've been seeing the Alaska slander. Yeah. Wait, what's with Alaska?

You cannot separate kids. Like, I'm so sensitive about that. That's crazy. Yeah, I think it was actually Brenda song who was just like, hey, Alaska, like, you made my kids sit like way the fuck in the back of the plane. They're like toddlers. I'm like, you cannot do that. No, that is a real. I feel like that was the only one I ever read where I'm like, she did the right thing.

Because imagine if they did that to her. They could do that to just about any family. And that's traumatic. That's how trafficking happened. Yes. You can't separate kids. from their parents. That is really weird.

Especially when she did the right thing and like prepared and advanced to make sure that the seats were all like together. Yeah, that's different. But when you're like, my flight was delayed. Well, okay. Are they lost my bags? Okay.

Yeah, it's like that happens. How many times I've lost my bag? You're a person. Side A, side B, panty is just fucking, you know, don't forget. Side C. What side C? It's still a mystery.

When you need it, you'll find it. You will see. There's this study that I am obsessed with. And I'm going to read the facts about it because I don't want to mess this up. But there is a study called the counterclockwise study. Have you heard of it? Okay. I bet you have.

You just didn't like know the exact name. Wait, hold on. You have a phone without a case. Yeah. I'm cool. What the fuck? I'm skinny and pretty. That's so crazy.

How dare you? Okay. So this is called the counterclockwise study. by Ellen Langer and I'm pretty sure it will sound familiar to you. So it was done in 1979 at Harvard and a small group of men in their 70s and 80s spent a week living all together as if it were 20 years earlier. The environment was fully recreated with old newspapers and music and TV shows and they all were instructed to talk about like their past as if it was happening now and they dressed

and behaved like their younger selves, right? So it's like, this would be like if it's honestly what we, I do, which is like if we're wearing low-rise jeans, you know, like whatever. So after one week, researchers observed that they had improved memory, strength, and posture, better hearing and vision. And they even, they say, looked younger in photos. And the idea was basically if the mind goes back in time that the body just might follow. And it kind of did. But, you know, people always point out. like it was a very small study of only eat men. There's no strong modern controls and scientists

today consider it interesting but not proof that you can literally reverse aging. However, I... stuck in high school. This study, I feel like it makes my life make sense. It makes your looks make sense. That's true too. You look like a child because you're still obsessed with high school. Yeah, and I wear the same clothes and like I can really put my mind in the past. And I I do wonder, like, does that keep me there? And also the fact that, like, I'll be out and people are like, are you over 13? Or, you know, like, that happens to me still at the airport.

And I'm just like, is there something to it? Now, I'm not saying I don't have wrinkles. Like, I for sure have wrinkles and stuff. But I just feel like for me, this study makes sense. That's all. I don't know. What do you guys think that there is something to the Peter Pan complex of it all. If you act young, you look young.

Yeah, but I think the part of acting young and behaving young is. is not being so burnt out by like the responsibilities. Because like if you look at someone like who is just very responsible and like always getting things done like that like encumbers their mind. Right. My perfect example is Bobby. I feel like he just has an age. He's 54.

And that's because he's like, I don't know how to do anything. And I think you get to be a lot freer in a lot of ways. But that's a separate example because I know you're super responsible. I think that you just like fantasize about high school a lot. Yeah, I, I'm responsible in my own ways, but I'm also still very childlike in my own ways. And for me, a big thing, too, that I've always done is like, I go home a lot. And my childhood home has not changed a lick. Like my friends, when they come over to visit, like my friends from high school, they're like,

this home is a time capsule. Like, it transforms them because my parents have not changed anything. And I just, it makes me believe in this study and it makes me want to, I don't know, like have everyone sort of pretend you're younger. But what a funny message to tell everyone, hey, it turns out you should live in the past. Yeah. Right. Don't move on. Don't move on.

Don't forgive. Do not be present. Don't forgive. And don't even be present ever. Like live back there as long as you can. can go back. See, for me, my past was worse. Worse than my present.

Like, my life is way better now than 20 years ago. But there was something very painful yet vital about being young, broke, and heartbroken. Like, okay, so for me, like, now that I'm like this mom and I have, you know, like a lot more grounded, my life is not as, like, exciting necessarily. It's like my 20s. If I hear one song and. If I fully like embody the the person I was listening to that song and I'm in my car, there is something I feel in my system where I'm like, oh my God, like I'm like revved up.

Like I'm like, oh, like youthful exuberance. I had that happen the other day in the car. I was listening to the radio because my jack wouldn't work. And all of a sudden this came on. No, I was so strange. I was like, what is this? KROQ. And it was like, baby, baby.

Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. Dude, all my life. On K.R. And I was like, well, maybe it wasn't KRAC, but it was something. And I was like, it brought me back to like eighth, ninth grade. I was like, oh. This is what I do all the time. Yeah, you guys.

The music really brings you back. No, music is like known to be a good time machine. It does take you back. If you, if you were in a bad mood, if you listen to the music that was popular when you were in high school, that will boost you. I think so. That has to be doing something to your body. I think so. I'm stuck in the 90s for my playlist.

All my 90s is like 90s R&B, 90s hip hop and R&B or like grunge slash alt rock. Okay, long hair. Yes. Where are you collective soul? Collective souls, Stone Potentbo Pilots. I love SDP. Nirvana. Like, it's Pearl Jam.

Me too. That was very much me. I'm stuck there. Because I feel like I'm on this like specific pursuit of wellness that is. is not like supplements and like, you know, the traditional wellness shit like maha and whatever. I wanna like laughing music. Like I wanna pursue wellness like with that kind of stuff.

You're going Okinawan style. Oh really? Yeah, you're going like blue zone style. I mean in Okinawa like their whole thing is like, the reason that we live so long is because we have friends younger. We have a community of not just our peer of people our age. We have friends of all. all generations.

I've heard that. And another thing is, like, one of their biggest, like, predictors of health is whether or not you can, from a sitting position, stand straight up. I'm the one that told you this. But no, that's from the blue, the Okinawan people do that. Remember, I said this was the senior citizen challenge and you did it. I did the challenge. I didn't know that's why you were telling me that.

Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Okay, twin. If you watch, like, the documentaries, like, these people in their, like, they're, like, centenarians, they can. still stand up and they have young friends the young friends is important because all the old people who get old and all their friends die those are the people who end up not living long because they have

no one else left yeah but also like i love having older friends i don't want anything to do with anyone my age we should be going up or down right right up or down we have this age let's go get other ages out there we i texted you this and you didn't respond i didn't do you have have any information for me about peptides? Everyone talks about them and I think they're so shady and I want nothing to do with them. I just wanted to know what you thought. I don't think they're necessarily shady. Some people like anecdotally feel like amazing on peptides, right?

So you can't knock that. And I do feel as though like, you know, they could very well be something that you benefit or there's so many different types. What is it? It's not gluteite. It's different. than GLP1? JLP 1 is mostly just for like weight loss primarily, but there's different kind of like beauty peptides,

one for like more like regeneration. There's so many different types. That just sounds so fake to me. It's like beauty, glow. Like what? Well, they're simplifying it in that way, but that's because the names are actually quite long and like hard to like, you know, remember.

But you know, there's this whole idea that like peptides cause like angiogenesis. And angiogenesis is basically, your body creating new blood vessels, which is, in theory, an okay thing because you have more blood flow. Let's say if you had more blood vessels anywhere in your face, you have more blood flow there. But angiogenesis, you don't want that to happen

to an existing tumor. So you don't want a tumor to have more blood flow because then the tumor will proliferate and then spread and you have mats to the rest of your body. So there's that argument of like, could it potentially expedite like tumor growth? and like mats or things like that.

But I don't know enough about it. I haven't dug deep because I'm afraid to buy in. You're not taking any. I know. I don't take anything. Okay, me neither. I'm hardly on subs. I'm also the anti-supplement game now.

I realize now that I got caught up in the, in the whole hype around all supplements. And vitamins. Like, I definitely did. I mean, I am now because I'm postpartum taking like vitamin D and B12. Like I'm doing those like basic. Basics, yeah. Omega. But like I got too far into thinking that I was going to like solve all my problems with tinctures.

And I'm not doing that. Yeah, same. So I'm, I'm over that. And now I'm just like, you know what? If I just eat well, move, I think I'm good. That's really all it is. And I don't like keep shitty people around me so that my stress is lower. Is that why you haven't been responding?

You're spiking her cortisol levels. Always, always. The one thing I will say about Esther, that's so impressive. impressive is that like she you like even with two kids she has the time to text and I'm like why am I fighting for my life here I can barely get back to anyone and she's just doing it like seamlessly question after question topic after topic whoa you really that is but my brain is like very weird right now it's like firing and wiring really fast and then at the same time it's also like moving like sludge yeah it's really confusing

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that I recently have 30? Please. So I, for the last two and a half years, sorry, guys, you could be bleeped this out. I've been pooping bad. Like, can relate? Can you?

Of course. Okay. What kind of bad are we talking? Like loose, gassy. Not farmed, yeah. Not solid. I always felt like it was like anxiety because I was like well I'm an anxious person so like that must be it and then I recently had I fell sick and I didn't know what this was but I had a fever 100 to 4 for 12 days.

Oh for 12 days? And my brain was boiling and I was like hallucinating and I went to the doctor twice and they were like whoa we don't know what this is what's going on and then they finally gave me two different antibiotics because they thought there was an stomach infection like a bacterial infection. Yeah. And then in that period, I cut out everything. I couldn't eat. I couldn't drink. I couldn't do anything. And I slowly started like bringing stuff back in after like I got better, except for coffee, which I've been drinking black since I was 13 because I'm psycho and I'm from New York and I was like, you know, hardcore. And I after I cut out coffee, I am poop.

straight up nuggets. Really? Like solid. Like good ones. Yes. Because nuggets sounds small. I need full chicken tenders. I was juicing.

Like it was crazy. And there was a point where like I couldn't even have sex with my husband because my butthole was so chapped. Oh. You know what I mean? Yeah. We don't like a chapped yet. I'm sorry.

That sounds painful. I was putting Niosporn on my butthole just to like get it to a point where I could be intimate with my partner. No. What are you? What you really think it was coffee? It has to be because I brought everything back in. And I haven't had coffee in a month.

And my poops have been incredible. Really? To a point where like in the mornings I'll poop and then I'll be like, oh, happy day. Like I'm skipping down the road. Like I feel amazing and confident. And that's so crazy too, especially coming off of two antibiotics because usually that'll wipe out your flora. Cause some weird shit to happen. I know.

But it did the opposite for you. You just randomly got like really sick. Well, I got a bacterial infection in my stomach. How? Probably some dirty dick. I went to Palm Springs twice in a month. That has to be it. How come when I go to Palm Springs?

Like, I, are there, like, I only see, like, older gay men. Yeah, me too. Or older gays in general. What, in Palm Springs? Yeah. I don't seem like super young. They're at the Ace Hotel. I was right.

by the Ace Hotel. You're right. The Ace Hotel. That's where they're at. And they're also at, what's it called? Clothing optional, what's it called? What's it called? Resorts. Clothing optional resorts in Palm Springs?

Oh, you didn't know? No, tell me more. Oh, there's a bunch of clothing optional resorts. Obviously, it's gay men. And you go and you walk around pretty much naked. Like, everyone's naked? Everyone's naked. And then there's, like, rooms that are.

are like basically doors open and people are like having origins and fucking and you could like kind of peep it and be like me and they're like no oh what a feeling I'd be I'd leave crying if someone said no if I was like me and they're like no it's happened to be too much to cry I cannot handle that rejection no I'm truly a better I don't even get it like rejected are there any women there no wow I don't think you would like it I guess like you don't I think women would like it or Esther wouldn't like it? Like I'm homophobic and I won't like it. You'll be like.

No, I don't think women would like. There's nothing for you there. I don't think you'd be like, you would feel safe. Okay. But yeah, you're like, okay, a change. I seek safety. It's like going on a gay cruise. Like, you wouldn't really love that because you're like,

you could be on the cruise, but everyone's like fucking and dancing. They would not. No one would give a shit about me. They would be like, hey, can you get me a towel? Well, that would be like normal. night's for me when I was out at a at what's that I think I've told you this is where what's that really cool bar where the women dance sometimes the one in Thai town yeah basically I was standing there and this girl comes up to me she's like we have some more cups

I'm like what like why me what did I do yeah you turn around and the wait staffs wearing the same exactly wait are there like girl orgies Clyla I've never been to an all girl like I've seen like you go to like you go to like sex clubs or you just like walk around and you're like I went to but there's men there right there's men and women and you're like I don't want that like there's no like girl on girl type of thing I haven't been to like all girls know but I know that Stella Barry has talked about these like very exclusive sex parties I've never been to any of those like ever no me neither I'm just too I think that what it is is like in theory I want to be that girl and then I get there

and I'm just not that girl. You're like, get me out of here. I need to have, like, a conversation. You know what's so sad about me? Ew, I hate that about myself. Why would you hate that? Because it's like, I do want to have like this like reckless kind of like fun. And I talk about like, oh, I just suck dick in Spain.

No, all of those sick dicks that I sucked in Spain, we dated. Like, there was conversation. And I want to be like, I just sucked a dick in an alleyway. Like, I'm so full of shit because that dick I sucked in the alleyway was like a boyfriend. And I was like, can I suck your dick in an alleyway? You know what I mean? You asked permission. It wasn't a rando.

It was like there was a relationship. And I fantasize about. You wish you were the girl that could suck rando dick? Yeah. Wait, hold on, hold my hands. Why? Maybe we'll like. Transference.

Freaky Friday. Transference, yes. Oh my God. I would love to. Because I'm the opposite of you. I can't suck a dick that I know. I know you told me this. I can't do it.

I find it repulsive. I don't understand how gay guys. like hook up with their friends. I'm like, if I, if you're my friend, I'm like, you're off limits. You're disgusting to me. You don't even have a body, you know? Like, I, and that's my own intimacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I'd rather just be like, you, you're hot, us, alleyway now and never speak to you again. Because I think I have this, it's probably like an old Christian shame thing where I'm like, I don't want us to talk afterwards. Oh, you wanted to just like go away? Like it didn't happen. Like it didn't happen. Yeah. That's why I like the sex part.

or like orgies because it's very like you meet okay let's go you know bye yeah but here's the thing about me like every time I go to any of these like gay parties I'm like so quick to like get off whereas every other man is like no I'm waiting I got to save this nut you know and they're all like oh not yet you know and I'm like I need to go home and sleep so like let me I paid the engines fee like let me get off i'm usually like if i go to a party at midnight i'm out of there at 1208 you are not getting a good value no i think at the end of the day like it's you're going there to get off right right like let's go like i have to go home and watch netflix what are we waiting for yeah i have tv there's so much good tv to catch up on i really respect that i thank you for

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And I'm just feeling very like, like, don't even see me as a sexual being. I see. Yeah. And I don't know. Not yet. And I know that I'll recover and I'll bounce back and I'll want to be that again. It's just really hard for me. My biggest jag right now is I cannot feel, it's like Madonna Hor complex.

It's like right now I am just all mom. I cannot tap into that other side. It's not even that I miss her. I don't want to know her. I feel icky. I feel icky like being a mom and even thinking myself in that way. And that's, I need to work that out in therapy, obviously, because you can be everything. You can be sexual.

You can do all these things. I just can't access. Just from reality TV, it seems like that's happening a lot. Really? Like Kristen from the valleys going through that right now? Really? Tell me more. Because Kristen just had a baby.

Do you know Vanderpomberl's? No. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. She was also the villain at it. But she, she danced herself out. But she recently got pregnant and she's going through a lot of similar issues of like, I don't feel myself and I don't want you to touch me.

I don't even want to put on clothes. How's her husband responding? And I really gross jerky way. No, he's being very sensitive. Okay. He's being very verbal about. And I love saying this too because he's expressing like, hey, I think you're beautiful and I am horny. and I want to be with you

all these things and she doesn't want to even hear it she's like don't call me beautiful I don't like I don't care if you think I'm sexy I don't think I'm sexy so it doesn't matter how many times you call me sexy like I can't hear it yeah because we don't believe men ever

I not a single time in my life has a man said you look incredible that I've been like oh that since I'm so glad you said that I now feel better about myself like I've never it has to to come from me how I view myself, which really sucks because I have a partner who is so utterly

supportive and who's so respectful of like my needs and stuff. And he does say like, hey, you're beautiful. Like I saw him physically get a boner like days after I got Bell's palsy and my half of my face was melted. I saw him like pop a boner and I was like, this is bad. And it's like pressure It feels like pressure, but he didn't, obviously, he didn't like, he wasn't like, oh, like, he just from in the corner of my eye, I just, you know, and he didn't do anything about it. But still, I was just like, oh, I hate this. So I understand her, Kristen, of her being like, I don't even want you to say anything. Okay, should we talk about love then? What about love?

Like love story. Okay, yeah. Yes. I haven't watched it yet, but I am very happy to hear it for. from both of you. Okay, so I'm four episodes in. Are you done? Yeah.

Okay, I'm at the episode where, um, after the mom dies. Okay, yeah, that was my least favorite episode. He goes running into rain and then he shows up at her place and they fuck. Oh, yeah, yeah. What are you, do you love it? Are you? I actually love it. It's so good.

It's so good. It's so good. The lead actors are shockingly really, really good. And I love that. They're people we haven't seen. I don't know if it's the show's interpretation. I, basically my view of JFK Jr. is changing in a big way.

And I, it seems like he was a dummy. A dummy. Yeah. And I don't know if that that's because of the way that the actor is playing him or if it's just the facts I'm learning or adding up to maybe he wasn't so smart. He did fail the LSATs. I mean, the bar exam many times. Right.

Which that's like fine. Like I can, you know, that's whatever. But he was so into his body and like being seen. And he just seems like, was he just like a pretty boy? And he was never really going to be like the next president. He was just going to kind of be like a goof off. I don't know. But again, that's coming from almost like the Gen Z mindset where all good looking guys are like absolute buffoon.

I feel like was he actually a dodo. I think because he was from this dynastic family, people put a lot on him. Yeah. But like he could just be just a regular, smegular guy with a hot body. Yeah. That's what I'm feeling. like it was. But I,

the biggest thing is that Carolyn, she's like really the hero of the story for me. I know. She's so cool. And she's just like smoking cigarettes and be like, I don't fucking care who you are. I don't need you.

The way the banter together, I'm like, I wish I was this cool. I don't think it's just the show because I think the show is a really accurate representation of reality. I read that book that it's based on like last year and and just everything we hear about them, which again, everything is hearsay, like,

who really knows? But it does feel like it's putting together the best picture you could possibly put together. I think that in our society, we think that, like, movie stars are the coolest. But I think it's like those fashion girls that work behind the scenes. Those are the ones that are the most creative, the smartest, like the most intellectual, like randomly. They're just like super hot. Like I do feel like she actually wasn't accurate it. And of course, when you add on the factor that, like, she didn't want to be photographed, like, I know. Oh, my God.

And she's so gorgeous, too, like effortlessly. Yeah. That's such a cool thing to show is, like, you don't need to be in front of the camera to be, like, influential. You can be, like, a boss bitch from the back. Does it bother you that he seems like a mama's boy? Yes. Really? Okay, why? I don't know if it's Ryan Murphy or the way they directed it, but so many scenes of them felt

so intimate. Between mom, his, Jackieo and JFK. Oh, really? Like, the way they hug each other and I know you're both boy moms, but like, I figured you'd bring this up. I know. I like to hear every cautionary tale.

No, I don't think she, like, ruined him by any way. But, like, just the way the director is positioning the camera, I'm like, wow, it's, I don't know. I got triggered because my mom never touched me. So, like, when I'm watching this, I'm like, they really love. loved each other. He's like reading to her. Yeah. And they're like, they were like best friends. Yeah. It is a really

intimate representation of mother's son. In a way that didn't bother me, which is shady. It's obviously because I was pregnant with a boy when I was watching it. But I don't know. It didn't bother me. I have to watch it and I report back. It's definitely not anything shady. Yeah. It just

seems like she. It's loving. She seems like a, like she was like a disciplinarian in a way that made him love her and devoted to her. And it doesn't seem like she was overly in- Hoddling? Yeah. No, but she had, she had so much affection for him.

Mm-hmm. And by comparison, Caroline Kennedy, the daughter got like nothing from her. They're so different. Really? Like, she was definitely a boy mom. Yeah, for sure. Are you afraid that you might inadvertently favor your boy? No, not at all.

Okay. I'm super, super into my daughter. Like, I am a girl mom. And I'm navigating what the differences feel like. But I also feel like they're all things that I'm just making up in my head as I go. Because I'm like that with animals. Like my, like donut is my girl. And pepper is my boy.

I put so much emphasis on gender that is so invented and made up that I, I don't know. I can't figure out what that is. Like if I, like, I'll be like, Dave, can you imagine? If Donut was a boy, he's like, what? It doesn't really, yeah. I'm like, I could never imagine it. I don't know. Hilarious.

What are your thoughts on the whole JFK Jr. saga, if any? I was too young to have an opinion when it happened, right? So I'm curious to see how, you know, I just thought it was like, oh, two grown, famous people like died in a, you know, that's the extent. Like my mom was way more invested. But to your point about, like, porn. possibly like raising a boy differently than a girl. I do think you do have to consider that, yeah, they are like different. But I always see in those situations where I've dated guys who have been mama's boys

and who have had sisters that have been like emotionally neglected. And they always become super successful. And the boy becomes so fucking stunted. And it's still like begging for his mom's lasagna like three times a week. and I in those situations like I'm always like once I realize I'm like oh my god this person's like a mama's boy I automatically equated to him

not being ever financially successful interesting I always those guys in my head never kind of get that far whereas the girl the sister in the situation like it's always some like CEO or something like very important

deprived of mother's love and so she's she well it's like it's not even deprived At that point, it's just, she's just not stunted by this, like, overly, like, this over-codling force in her face all day long. Where she has more of a sense of, like, self-discovery, maybe. And I think that can go both ways. Like, helicopter parenting is just not good. You know what is crazy?

That people are now coming out and saying that, like, that plane crash should be considered murder. Why? He was told not to fly. He was flying without his instructor when he probably. probably should have been, like he didn't have the right amount of hours or whatever. The weather was, again, conditions where it's like, you should not be flying if you're a beginner at all. It was also the first time he was flying since his leg had healed from being broken. So actually Carolyn's mother, like, had a, she sued them.

And she had a good case. Like, obviously they settled, you know, because they're the Kennedys and they can settle. I mean, a mother lost two daughters in a plane crash. Like that is painful. That is horrible. That's another thing that they depict a lot. And the show is kind of like the mom not really approving from the get-go and not wanting her daughter to lose herself. Talk about a girl mom.

Like she doesn't want her daughter with this like the most eligible bachelor, you know, whatever. Which is like opposite of what Jackie O's mom wanted for her. Because Jackie O's mom was like desperate for her to like be sold off to the highest bidder. Or like whatever, the aristocracy or whatever, aristocracy of American socialites. You know who I do love is Jack Schlossberg. Me too. I love him. He's, do you know who he is?

Clela. Oh, Tatiana's. Caroline's son. Not Carolyn's, yeah. So he's JFK's. He's tall handsome and Jewish. Are you okay with that? So it is, is he tall?

Is he for sure tall? And he's only half Jewish. What's tall? Six foot over? Like 510 and over. Yeah. I think he's 510 and over for sure. Okay. Well, he is only half Jewish.

She doesn't have a Jewish mother. Oh, so it doesn't count. Yeah. Which I don't think that that doesn't count that you're not Jewish, but it doesn't make you like a crazy guy. Oh, I see. I see. Yes, yes. Okay.

The other thing that I wanted to mention is that like what I remember when JFK Jr. passed away, which is obviously horrible tragedy. Like a lot of people were like mourning. They're like, he was going to save democracy. He was going to be our next president. that is the piece of the puzzle that like I want to believe in but I don't I don't believe in that I think he wanted to just be a playboy and gruff off and run this stupid ass magazine he liked being it seems like a public figure but I don't think he was like the guy who was going to like save us all like the democratic parties like golden boy he had a lot of pressure to be that guy which

probably sucks yeah but he I'm not he seemed like a good guy, whatever, but Jack Schlossberg is like, he's like funny. He is like a Kennedy with a little bit of Jew in him. Like he's like funny. And I love that he, when he's called RFK Jr. A caged animal. Yes. So funny. That is hilarious. And you can only say that.

Yeah, so his sister. Yeah, I know. Tatiana Schlossberg. Yeah, she passed away. Which is another like absolute horror story. Another Kennedy horror story. Yeah. So you think like it's skipped a generation maybe and it's coming to Jack? Maybe because he's like running for office really young and he's activated. He's activated. Remember he challenged Schultz to a boxing match?

You did? Yeah. That's hilarious. He was like, let's go. Let's fight it out. And Schultz never responded. I'm pro Nepo baby when it comes to him because he's fighting a good fight. People want to use that against him.

Like he's just his name, whatever. But he's doing good work. I'll take it. That gives him press and promotion. Like I'm on board. I buy in. Me too. I love him.

So what are your thoughts around Spencer Pratt then? People are saying he's going to win. People say he can. He's leading. What is he running for? Mayor. Mayor. No, Nithia Raman.

Cannot be Nithia. You really think he has a shot? Oh no. Well, that's what people are saying he is. Because like the youth are voting now. And Rogan had him on? I know. What an idiot.

Do you see Andy Cohen call him a fucking loser? Yeah. Rogan, not Spencer Pratt. What do you guys see or know of Spencer Pratt? Look, I was actually very much enjoying his crystal collection. Not a crystal collection. Like, I do like that he's been Heidi's like lifelong hype man. That is, that is right?

That's cool. That's cute. And it's like when anything great happens for her, he's like, fuck yeah, you know, she deserves all of this. Yeah, because he doesn't have a job. He needs to. She's the money bags. But he is high.

Highly entertaining. I don't know if you saw like post-Palisades fire. Like what he was like, there's just, there's a lot of things worth tuning in about Spencer Pratt. I just don't want him

necessarily to be my mayor. I don't want celebrities in office. I think we should bring politics back to Uggos and people who don't have personalities that sit in C-SPAN. Like, C-SPAN. It's gotten too crazy.

Yeah. Like I don't, except for Jack Slossberger, I feel like he is actually smart and he knows what he's doing. But he's not a celebrity. Yeah, he's just an apple baby.

As a quick anecdote, we interviewed Spencer Pratt on like a reality walk like a red carpet thing one time and we asked him what the meaning of life is to him and he said tacos tacos he's not completely wrong but I'm not voting for that that's not what I'm voting for like he's a fun time at a party you know like I need him to I think that's what it is I need Spencer Pratt to stay Spencer Pratt 100% that kind of keeps things in order yeah he's been Spencer Pratt for so long yeah yeah that maybe we just need a little bit of comfort and safety. We need some things not to change.

Right. It's like in the same way I think that Oprah should stay Oprah. I do not think that we were like Oprah for the like, no, leave Oprah's open. Okay, that I disagree. Oprah should be president. You think so? You guys are insane. No way.

How is that ever a bad thing if Oprah is president? She's so good at everything she does. You know she'd be fighting for all the right things. You guys are nuts. I don't trust her. I'm sorry. What? I'm going to say it right now.

I don't trust her. I do not trust Oprah. And by the simple fact that two things, she's a billionaire, I don't trust any billionaires. Even Beyonce, you're my queen, but you need to lose some money. Second, she capes for Tyler Perry. And Tyler Perry is so bad and horrible.

And I don't like that. I don't like that she, like, defends him. And it's icky. It feels icky to me. I love her garden. I love her waistline. She looks amazing. The O is really working for O, but like, I don't know.

So you're a big fan. Look, I cannot challenge anything you just said. I can't. You always speak the truth. That'll ring. I can't think of an alternative that's better. But I know she's never going to run. Why would she?

She's in a Santa Barbara Garden mansion. Like who would fucking. Who would leave that for presidency? No way. To move into a smaller house? No. Are you kidding? The old with no probably good repairs.

They don't even have an east wing right now. Like, it's crazy. There's really no one now that I could look at, male or female. And also now I feel like we're just learning the president is just like the face of the operation. You're just a puppet. Kalila for president. I mean, over any of these idiots out here. Can I tell you something, I'm thankful that you brought that up.

There was truly a point in my young childhood where I wanted to become the president of the Philippines. Oh, really? This was not a made up thing where I was like, oh, it wasn't, no, it was like, I'm going to go into something. I'm going to be a lawyer. If I stayed in the Philippines, not if I came to America. If I stayed in the Philippines, I would have absolutely been in politics, I think. Can you do it still? No, not with my head the way it's at now.

Mani Pachial, right? Yeah. It's like, you know, the Philippines once elected. He's already in office, but he's not. the president. But there was once when the Philippines elected a guy named Arabistrata, and I think this is probably where my dreams, like, you started happening for politics. He is an action star. He was like the equivalent of not even Arnold. He was equivalent of like maybe a lesser Steven Seagall in the Philippines. I don't think he even passed elementary

school, but he was the president for a while because he was an action star. I mean, we did that here, I guess. Yeah, we did that here too. But that's when I was just like, oh, I got this Spencer Pratt thing where I'm like, oh, I can do this. Oh, anyone can do it. Yeah. I just can't have Spencer Pratt being the head of the LAPD. Right. It's just too scary for me. Well, he's also too blonde. It scares me.

Blonde men are really scary. Yeah, I don't trust. That's what this all comes down to. Blonde men cannot be in positions of power. Not in L.A. Wait, like, that's a... Wait, you're right. Throw your fucking hair out.

Like... Something weird is going to. not. Yes. Don't blondes turn like brownish? Always? I think so. Unless you're like Norwegian, I guess. Is he dying his hair? Is he bleaching his hair? I don't know. He's got to be bleaching his hair. Anyways, we have to wrap it up, which is a really weird note to end on. But this has been a true treat, especially for this old sack of potatoes over here. Peter, thank you so much. Wait, your new special is out on YouTube. Yes, it is. Check it out. It's called Rice Piglet. Of course it is.

Obviously. And you want to or anything else we can promote to find you, whatever? Well, if you're in the L.A. area, I have a weekly show at Night on Earth. It's a lounge in Studio City. So come on by. It's free every Sunday, music and comedy. Oh my gosh. Fine. Yeah. Come by anytime we'd love to have you guys. Okay. So her name right now is Bella. I just got her two days ago. She's two years old. you can see she slept throughout the whole podcast she's so pretty and gentle she's very gentle with my toddler she's very gentle with um all the dogs she's super sweet so if you are looking for a

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