Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Gilbert Galon and Peter Kim NEED Media Training

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

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Culture has changed. You don't see shows like this where the judges are this disrespectful to people. But he made a whole career from it, right? He did. He did great. He's a motivational coach now, I think. Is he? Which is really amazing, yeah.

Good for him. I was just thinking because his voice isn't like terrible. It's not. It was more his face, right? Ooh, that's interesting. That's a really hot take, Peter. That they're laughing at. That didn't double down.

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There's already trailer out. So go check it out. Enjoy the app. Hi, diva. Don't touch me with your fake allergies, what's really a cold. Wait, I have allergies too high. No, I'm actually a lot better. I think my house is molded.

Molded? I wake up every morning crying, and I... I hate it. Why? Because of the allergies? I picked out the vents, and I cleaned out our cows, because we thought our guy we were having a tenant as had cats or like had friends with cats. But I think I'm allergic to houseplants.

Shut up. That's not a thing. Because spider plants clean the air. They don't cause allergies. Plants don't have, first of all, it's not just our own spider plants. Like, we all know what that is. Of course. Of course.

I know what a spider plant is. I'll do that. Why? Spider plants. Why? Spider plants? They're air purifiers. No, there's a giant plant in the corner that's dying.

So I think it's that. That's a fig. I don't know. You know, I propagate fiddly figs. What does that mean? You don't want a fiddly fig is? I don't know house plants. I go home crying.

I sleep crying. It's not houseplants. Don't blame houseplants. It's probably the cats or the moles. Because I drove my car, open my windows. Fine. Like I can feel everything not being inflamed. You have sinus infection.

That's what I have. I don't have it unless I'm in the house. Or around cats. Cats is the thing, but we don't have cats. Have you considered ghosts? Oh, ghost is a real consideration. Who's haunting me? Not even haunting.

It might be the house. There's a ghost. It's a brand new unit, guys. There's no ghost here. It's a new build? Yeah, we're the first ones. Oh, I think there's probably bodies on the ground. You definitely built on aerial site, right?

Yeah. Is it on stolen land? Stolen land. Yeah. You know that works. Or the billionaires dumped their kids. Sorry, we can't get started yet. We're going to try to not go Epstein in the first 10 minutes.

10 minutes, we're doing gold gala. Gold gala. Is that coming up soon? Or any of us invited? No. Wait, hang on one second. I thought you would have that in your calendar bolded the gold gala. In red.

Yeah. To like murder everyone when that runs. No, like Chinese New Year, Asian. I don't do Lunar New Year. You don't? I don't think Filipinos do. Oh, okay. How are you?

Yesterday was the first day of spring. You think it's the house? One second. One second. Answer, answer the phone. Who is it? His wife, he has to answer. Cindy, what is the other than the plant in the corner of the house?

Is that a spider figly fig? No, it's one or the other. Who are in your way? I'm on a plant show. It's a plant-based comedy show. Okay. It's not a spider-figgly fig. I don't know what that is.

It's called a fiddle leaf. I told you it's a fiddole leaf. Redmond. That's what I propagate that. I'm here with Peter Cam and Kalala Kian. I was telling them that's what's getting me sick every day. A Fidili fig is not. There's no pollen.

It's just because we haven't put new soil in that plant in a while. So I think something in the soil is bothering you. It's a mold. Some kind of rock. It's great. Okay, I love you. I love you. Happy New Year.

I followed the whole first day of spring in the Lunar New Year yesterday. I didn't sweep. I didn't clean. I was nice to people because they say like the first day of spring is going to be the snapshot for the rest of your year

so anyways you guys are fucked because how you behaved yesterday is a snapshot for the rest of your year I was spiraling yesterday what happened I did not clean a thing I made a mess wait that's good

cleaning not cleaning is good because you don't want to sweep out good opportunity oh really okay good so you shouldn't clean because I clean every night that's not a good year for you are you sure about that

because I went to an Asian event and they told me my Zodiac Oh, let's hear it. I'm an earth snake. Oops. Didn't know that. Trust that 2026 has its own agenda and timeline for you and trust in yourself. You have positive investment luck.

And in business, you will attract positive and beneficial long-term tips, which may come through an unusual source, only fans. A wonderful year for a romance and getting support for your ideas in terms of benefactors, even angel investors who trust your intuition and vision. Do you guys know what your Zodiac situation is? Yeah, for me, I'm in a clash year because I'm a wood rat. Yeah. You're going to have a tough one.

You mean a hood rat? Hood rat. Yeah. It's honestly so precise. But it's not tough. It's just challenging and it will force you to move forward. You're going to grow. Yeah, I'm a good swimmer, baby.

I don't sink. You're going to have a clashier, you said. Clash year, you're going to have a boon this year of investors. What is yours? What are you? I'm a water dog. And apparently it's going to be. time to go like up up up oh this is a good year for you last year was a really bad year for me like

real bad hey one of the worst i've ever had do you want to talk about it was tough the whole year um work wise my psyche mental emotional everything was just down the drain to 2025 and i was waiting for it to be over yeah yeah but it feels it feels it feels way better now it feels like things are going up. It's so scary because like I've obviously I'm not in your industry in the same like way. I'm like right next to it as an observer, public observer. And it is so feast or famine and scary for me to like when I see just like really talented people like you who clearly have it all or even when I saw Bobby like who to me had it all. But the feast and famine of the up down is just such such an emotional thing.

Yeah, it throws you for a loop. I thought I had gone through it. Yeah. You know, and it turns out I hadn't. And it sounds like the past, you've gone through it? Yeah. Like after Steve, I don't know if you felt like this at CBS showcase. There was like, oh, okay, we're going on auditions.

We're booking some stuff, blah, blah. And then there was like a dive. There was like, I don't care. Yeah, everyone's like, we've seen you. Yeah, next Asian. Yeah. Yeah. And then it kind of went back up and then took like a huge.

huge dive with pandemic and multiple strikes. Yeah. It's just been an AI. It just feels like insurmountable. But everyone said when I moved to L.A., I think you said this too. I think I'm the one that really was like, brother, you got to come out. You got to come out here.

There's so much work. We're all getting rich. And everyone said this to me when I moved to L.A. was just stick around. Yeah. Just hold on and stick around and your work. I think that's really good advice. It's actually Joan Rivers who said, like, you just got to stand in the rain. Yeah.

Like, if you don't stand in the rain, like... You got to be a glunt for punishment. Yeah. Yeah. Did we not stand in the rain for Tiger Belly for the first three years? Oh, yeah. We didn't get paid for a couple of years. He was a lift driver.

I was a lift driver. I remember that. Well, Bobby kept buying golden goose in front of my face. Claw was shaking from not eating. Oh, those are my fit. He wasn't... Wait, you were hot, though, dude. You guys?

No, because he didn't make money. He didn't make money. Wait, Bobby was... He didn't have ads on Tiger Belly? Oh my God. I just want to say this. Like, when I put up a 2016 post and I was like, 2016, I had zero money, blah, blah, blah. Some guy was like, you were with a millionaire.

Gilbert, what kind of millionaire was Bobby at that time? Not a millionaire. Somebody just does not have to pay taxes. So there's probably like eight years of back taxes. Yeah. Okay. But also like we were living in a two-bedroom apartment. Like there was nothing fancy about our life.

We only flew coach. Like there was nothing. We had one car. We were a one car family. It was a beat up Prius. I remember that. Like there were times where he would play a weekend and barely just... I always thought he just lived small.

No. Bobby, I don't think is also good. He doesn't know how to be rich, too. That's a separate conversation. He does now. He does, but also doesn't. You know what I mean? Well, this goes back to the Gold Gala conversation.

Let's talk about it. Let's talk about Gold Gala. Why isn't he being invited? I think he does every year. He doesn't open his email. He gets invited every year, but he doesn't open his email. So I got to his reps? I got him last time because I told someone.

Because you're in with them. I'm not in with them. I'm in with them. You're in with them. No, he's not because he hasn't. I'm in with them. You're ever in with them. Stop raising hate.

We talk about this all the time. There's a reason why you, you, me, will never be invited. We are fucking gutter rats to them. Well, it's also that. I agree with that. I agree with that. I'm a water dog, not a gutter rat. We all live in the same swamp.

I feel like you, me, Kalila, maybe Bobby doesn't have much to offer the gold gala. We don't. I'm just going to say that. It's true. No shade. I mean, that's how it works. It is sponsored by Lexus. What am I going to give gold gala?

Is that what it's called? Gold house. Gold house. Can we explain to the audience what it is? You guys keep, they're pointing to me. You're in with this group of people. You're inside. I'm trying to get in.

You're facieation adjacent. He is closer to them than us. I wore shoes from Aldo. If they had a secret island, you got invited. Dude, I hope so. I know you do. So like how? So golden, okay, how do I get in?

Gold House, from my understanding, is, Oh, sorry. Gold House is a, you know what's so crazy? I keep up saying this on camera. I actually don't know what it is. What do you mean? Is the Asian? Don't be all over naughty about it.

It's an Asian collective. It's the Asian mafia. I've heard there's rumors that it's a little, corporatized. That's all I know about it. What does that mean? They're a group that's supposed to lift up Asian voices. Love that phrase. But now they're corporatized so they just take profits. I think it's like, hey, if you're an Asian, you're doing well, come on over. Join the club. Join the club. Okay. It's like a whole house. So if you're a small indie film, you're struggling out there, but you got big actors, but they ain't getting in the Sundance. Yeah. Don't show up. Don't show up.

Okay. That was for me. I get that. Your number seven on a call list for a minus three million dollar movie, Don't bother coming. Hey, you were great in that one movie, though, where you played a straight man. Which one? Cindy's movie. Very good. Did you watch the other one?

The one I'm talking about the actual Asian one? No. This is what I'm talking about. And he's screaming about stop Asian hate. That's crazy. That's crazy. You know, this goes both ways, Gold House. Yeah, dude.

Look, I just want to say Gold House. Gold House. But I'm going to look directly on the camera. This is an Asian podcast. I don't know if you know this. Gold House, to you, I say, we were the pioneers in pot not only just in podcasting in general, but we were the, our whole cast was Asian. True.

For the love of God, for the love of God, please put some respect on our name. Hello. Yeah. I have a nice dress at home. I can show up pretty. My face is a little crooked. Do you have a nice dress? I wore it at your wedding.

Was I not extremely hot at your wedding? That was intense. What you did. I know. You can't dress like that in front of old Asian people. Here's the thing about these motherfuckers, Gilbert and all of them, is that they, see me in my like just worst all the time and so when I do clean up they're like shocked that I'm a hot chick you please pull up a Bobby Lee Kalila UFC video game I want to show you how you can we not

can we yes actually don't don't do that can we yes this was like chuggy years I had orange hair that's how I I need to say that I actually did it like I was like I had it so much judgment I like you like this wait were you like abg adjacent it felt like that AG cross-eyed with orange hair and been fake tits but you would know Never expect her to be like, that's Kalila? Like that's how... Should we or not? We should.

You can. Bring it up. But only if I get to kick you in the dick after. I'll give you one strong leg kick. Okay, good. All right. This is worth it. Oh.

We. Look at my orange hair. It was a bad dye job. You know what's different. The hair, the makeup's different. Your teeth are still very white. Very white. Thank you.

My eyebrows are different. I didn't know how to do my makeup. You don't look that bad? That's you. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's so different. I think it's the hair.

Would you say it's the... Someone is commented on my different face. It's like, duh. I think her maybe Gold House don't invite. You know what I'm like that? I would say Gold House now invite. Oh. Right?

They're back to like the Tila tequila look? Yes. Okay. This is... Look at me now. No, this is... This is good. Not Tila tequila look.

Oh, okay. I see. So, but this look, Gold House, let's... I just like connected it. Buried to Tila tequila. You know what happens to Tila tequila? She went Maga. Full.

No way, really? She was Nikki before Nikki. Yeah, she was Nikki before Nikki. She's really just unwell. You can tell. This is not new though, right? You can always tell like how someone, you can gauge someone's mental health based on, unfortunately, the politics and if they start to, like, verge on, like, conspiracy theory stuff. And no one's around her to, like, say stop.

No one's around her, because it's really hard to, like, intervene when something like that happens. Like Kanye, Nikki. They don't have people that actually stop them. I want to ask you guys how you feel about Kanye's letter. I'm not even well written. What's the letter? Really? As a writer, I was like, I thought so too.

Great five points. Whichever version of Chat, JP wrote that, I said, Wait, you're getting better. I'm not in pop culture right now. So basically Kanye writes this long thing about explaining how when he got into a car accident in his early 20s, he suffered a TBI. And along with his TBI and the fact, TBI?

Traumatic brain injury. Oh, okay. Along with that, and his diagnosis of bipolar one, he's basically explaining his anti-Semitism, his just weird antics, paranoia, treating his family the way he has been in the last couple of years because he is unwell. He has both a brain injury and a mental health, you know, struggle. And so he's like, sorry for being an anti-Semite. Sorry for.

My B. Yeah. But he also said thank you to the black community for. holding me down when I was acting fucking nuts. I was like, that's so true though. Like there are people who just won't leave him. But also like there's this one scene in that leaked like documentary where Kim was like, I don't know like who you are.

And she's like crying. And she's like you're not, you weren't like this years ago. And that's where I'm like, oh, I really believe that like he this, this, this, the bipolar just like took over. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Do you guys see the Andrew Schultz stuff? No.

Can we talk about it? Yeah, we can. Right? Like, did you see this? Andrew Shultz? He came out and said, well, I guess the left was right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he says, I saw a clip.

I saw a clip. And he told his, bro, I was like, oh, I guess we were the dummies. And I was like, it really hurts to be like gaslit the entire time and then be like, you know what? Sorry. And it's like, God, I should give you the space to be sorry. but can I just slap you once? Like can I just fucking...

Can I Will Smith you just once? Just once. There needs to be some accountability for a second at least. It's something! I went to violent people were trying to hold it to him and they were doing some jihitsu

with trying to hold accountability early on. I think that what people... And maybe this isn't enough. You can never really please like, you know, people who are that upset with you. But I think it's like, hey, I understand my part in this and really propelling this administration forward.

And I fucked up and oh my God. Like, can I'll do anything? And can I highlight some other things that I was ignorant to before? Like there's at least a little one more step beyond like, whoa, was I a dick? Like that's not enough. What did Charlemagne say? Or was this on flagrant or? On brilliant idiots.

What was his take on? Response to it? Or like, yeah. I didn't watch Charlemains. I honestly can't watch Charlemagne. I find him so stupid That list I'm like

Lucky Charlevate Howard guys I know I know you want to get into that Gold Gala would love to come This is why Gold Gala doesn't invite me Because I talk shit We love some dumplings that are very expensive Caviar on it

Speaking of Gold Gala Are there like Asians that you would stick by Like some of the black community sticks by Kanye In that Is there an Asian icon That was so important to you We still here with Bobby Lee.

We still here with Bobby Lee. I'll ride for Bobby. I'll ride for Bobby all day, dude. Just like I know him on a molecular level. Right. So no matter how he fucks up. I just know like. Oh, but she'll hold him to the fire though.

She's not going to be like. Oh, yeah. I'm not a yes man. I think I'm actually one of the few people in his life that really like stick it to him. If he's like misbehaving or if he's in there wrong, like I don't mind saying like that's fucked up. Like go apologize. You are 100% wrong. I think you guys misunderstood.

I said Asian icon. I said someone who Gold House might invite. Okay, let's say Bruce Lee. I'm sure he's like your Lord and Savior. He said he got invited. He did do the opening mail. Last time, he did get invited. And I talked to some people.

I was like, oh, I just kind of threw it out of there. There was a little passive aggressive comment. I'm very good at those. Ask my wife. They were like, we email him. He doesn't respond ever. So I asked Bobby to look at his email. It's there in his spam.

What a power move, though. Power move or complete ignorance. I don't know. Bruce Lee, you were. saying Bruce Lee, if it comes out that, you know, he did some things, some in-approves. What things called out to be, what would have to be?

For me, the biggest crime would always be to like, you know, hurt young people, boys and girls. He had a grooming situation. With boys, young boys. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised by it. That with Bruce Lee. Young Chinese boys. Oh, no. Can you not say Chinese that way? That was insane.

Don't touch me. I'm going to go, yowl. I'm going to go, yowl. He's Chinese. I had to be his own. I had to break, I contact him. You said that. I was like, Yeah. He's like,

Chinese boys. I know the Chinese boys. But, dude, so much you've said doesn't make you look good. I know. I'm a problem.

Can I just say something really quick where people don't know our relationship? I look up to Peter a lot. I remember when we did Chicago together, I was like grinding out there trying to get on this thing called Browncoe, which is a hilarious name. It's a torn company specifically of people that are not white.

And it's like a big deal. And I remember this guy came in from like S. S.F or something. And was crushing the scene. I was like, fuck, I suck. And I just remember looking up to Peter Because he was just

Everyone loved him He was doing all the stuff at Second City And yeah dude You're just awesome Just want to put that out there Because why are you so familiar Why are you so familiar? That's why

Because we know each other You just want to explain Yeah Yeah we do know each other And you were the Asian Before I came onto the scene So I had I understood everything

No you moved out He moved out here That's the truth And then started stuff with you and Bobby And then left A single vacancy For an Asia to come in and just like wreck it.

So I more back to you being canceled. Okay. So you're saying Bruce Lee, Chinese. Well, it's like a lot of people, right? Like if you dig into history, I think that like Gandhi had done some inappropriate stuff with I feel like young family members where he would test his sexual restraint by laying next to his young nieces or something like that. And I was like to see whether or not he would get boners.

And I mean, it's kind of funny, but insane. That to me is like, oh. I think that's funny at all. Just like what? But immediately as soon as I read that I was like, oh, fuck him. Like he's not. But I'm trying to think of someone who I would just ride for till the end of time. Do you have anyone Filipino?

No. Not one. I feel like anyone. This is why the whole like Epstein files. I don't care how much I adore you. If Barack Obama, my president was on there, I would be like he's done. Yeah, me too. Execution style.

Done. Really? I don't know people get skinny. I don't have loyalties like that. I don't know if I have one person that I would write for. I'm like maybe that's why Gold House hasn't invited me. I'm a flip-flop. You're not like a cult, a good cult member.

I asked too many questions. You asked too many questions. I'm too loud. You have no true devotion to like blind devotion is a is, you don't have that. I got to see Peter. Mr. Gandhi, why do you keep lying down next to your nieces? Like, shut up, dude.

Stop. Can I lie there? I think it's something why. going back to like you know Asians and iconography maybe it's I the gays have this too

like we don't give our own people that much credit yeah like gays will ape over a straight actor that does a gay role you know as opposed to give a gay man their flowers his flowers yeah

same with Asians is that happening right now with like wicked dude wicked dude oh sure but more about like how people love Hudson Williams because he's straight and he's playing I see what he's like Conor stories is straight Yes he has a girlfriend told you your gator is bad I'm not gay dude I know and he's Asian so I'm like rah rah yes Hudson

But he's also not the gay one so I'm like all right well why he looks so stunned you look you're turning pale It's because wait did you finish not finish oh I finish You finish I didn't finish the whole episode, but I watched it with my partner. And he likes it. Great. He was like, oh my God.

It's hot. Oh my God. The ass. Too much. I'm going to photo that butt. I'm not familiar. Double dead. Oh, go and ask like you're not familiar.

You watch it five times. What is that show? You watched it. No, we're supposed to start this week. Cindy really wants to binge it. You're like six months late. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. You got to get into it. Anyway, yeah, we don't have our, like, we don't give our elders respect enough. Yeah. Do you have someone? Not really, I mean, Bobby. I feel like I've...

It can't be Bobby your, like, actual friend. Like, I'm talking about, like, someone you... Okay, so like, like, look up to it in the movies. Okay, like Jackie Chan would be crazy. Yeah, Jackie Chan. I love Jackie Tan. That's like Uncle Jackie. Like, Rumble in the Bronx.

That was me. You don't think you could give up Jackie, huh? That's tough. I mean, like, I'm like, Kalaala. If something happens, though, I'm like, deuces, dude. Fast to go. I can't stand by that. I'm not a Peter Kim, dude.

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I know pieces. I'm literally on DOJ.gov backslash Epstein. Jesus. I'm doing keywords. Are you? No, but you're in the actual files, though. I'm deep in the guts of the file. So who are we?

So, okay, so who are we most shocked by the thing that saddened me most was maybe Peter Atia? I never followed him much, but a lot of people were like, what the fuck? Why is he in there? What's so great about him? Like lately, he's really been, I understand now that he actually didn't finish, like, his, you know, a lot of people don't think he's like a real, real, like, practicing doctor. But, you know, he, in the last month, he went on 60 minutes and he really championed women. Everything has been failing women.

And I was really happy to, like, send that to my mom and tell her, like, hey, get back on hormones. And, like, Peter Atia says. So I was like, I was like. I was like, oh my god. You know why it was important is because I think women have been saying it out loud for so long and screaming at the top of our lungs. But it took a man to actually say the same thing we were saying for people to be like, oh, maybe we have failed women in menopause and later in their lives. So I was like when I saw Peter Atteo. And this is recent.

Like he's been really like a podcast champ. Okay. Yeah. Oh, the timing is interesting. And so you know, we're all. Yeah. It is very interesting that he came out and is speaking for. older women.

That's a nice thing. That's a nice change. That is surprising. But I will say this. He's also like, I mean, all the stuff he said is still fact. That's science. It's true. You can still.

Yeah. I just now question his. Yeah. I just, you know, when someone is a part of something this dark and demented and disgusting, it's really hard for me to like hear anything they have to say anymore. And even though, you know, he claims that he wasn't. witness to anything that happened, that he had a very distant relationship with Epstein, it still bothers the shit out of me.

That's a crazy sentence to even say out loud. Well, he put out a statement. Yeah. Yeah. So, tell me, tell me, tell me. The thing that haunts me the most is that basically QAnon was right. That's the funny thing that's going around, right? Everyone that said all the crazy shit is like, oh, God, they went that crazy.

It makes sense because that's what they seated. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, they knew that this was going to happen eventually. Like, you can't, the DOJ shifts. hand so like someone's going to look at these files so when we were like oh he's like compromised blah like this is what they were talking about yeah but it took 10 years to like release them and now it doesn't really matter right because they own the DOJ yeah you know so like I feel very like oh wow

what a dumb ass bitch I was to be like pizza gate you stupid idiots I went to college I know and they were just being fed all the stuff that was actually happening yeah but being like conspirator. I mean, it's genius work. It's like from a macro level of the strength pulling. Like it's like lucifer work. Like you're like, oh. When you see the amount of times that pizza is brought up, you're like, oh my gosh.

It's nonsense. Yeah. And they have code words for like little girl and little boy. It's disgusting. But here's like what makes me the sickest is that I'm reading a lot of this stuff. And like I'm in tears. Like it, you know, like I was a child who was sexually molested. I was assaulted multiple times in my early life.

And I don't think that like any child should ever have to even like kids shouldn't be kids. You know? And so for me, I was like really in a bad way like reading some of this stuff. And I'm like, guillotine, guillotine, guillotine, like French 75. We're in crazy time. We're in fallout, dude. We're in fallout right now, dude. The way they are pressure testing Minnesota, my husband's people where he's from.

That's a good word pressure testing. They really are because it's an experiment. They're like if Minnesota, because Minnesota has 400,000 people. people. Yeah. Minneapolis. That's like, that's not a lot of people.

That's not. That's a small city. Yeah. So to make that big of a hoopla in a small city like that, that feels like they're trying to test America, like middle America. Yeah. Like, will you let this go? Will you let us basically take over?

And the answer is no. Dehemantly no. You're seeing it, dude, across the, you know. Look at LA. On the internet, everyone just no. Do you guys see the container? that they moved downtown. Like container.

They moved the entire shipping container to block off streets. The people did to block off the agents. Yeah, well, they tried to do some shit in Englewood and got driven out like this. Really? There's guns everywhere down here.

It's like, you guys are so stupid. This is very much a blue state, but very heavy on the artillery. So like... I mean, L.A., dude. L.A.'s crazy. I live in East L.A., so I'm hearing it all the time.

Yeah, I love East L.A. My first boyfriend. my Cholo boyfriends are all from Eastlose. Okay, put that photo back up. The food. Shout out. That's who dated Cholo boyfriends. Shout out Puppet.

I miss you. She shh out Puppet all like once every year. He's a good guy. He still hits me up. He's like, my girl, I bought some ebb. How do you use it though? He's like, I want to congratulate you my girl. You're doing big things, my girl.

I'm like, I am your girl. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's so sweet. Fuck. Puppet, dude. That name doesn't say. Yeah. His name was Puppet?

That's his gangster. He was against her. Why would you do this? Why would you bring me on? People need to know the real you. We need to the founder of ass story. It was when I... This is the trash part of Trash Tuesday.

So here's a little thing, a tidbit about me. I actually have really pretty penmanship because I grew up in Asia where it's like that's drilled in your head. Penmanship is a real thing. So I write really good, you know, I'm really good with calligraphy. I'm good with that stuff.

So I wanted to be a tagger because I was like being a part of a gang. I wanted to be a tagger. Don't do it that way. I wanted to be, I couldn't be like a full blown. I heard that as a son. I want to be a tagger. A tagger. A tagger.

It's my roots. Please don't shame me. So I came from the Philippines and the Filipinos like basically shunned me. They were like her accents too thick. She's a fob. She's like not cool. They didn't like the fog. But the Latino community took me in like a long lost daughter.

Right. So I became a full blown chola. You could pass Latina. Yes. I'm Latina passing. I dated my Chola boy. who love to camp and love Morrissey and love really good music

You dated Eric. You dated Eric. You dated his Yeah, you dated Eric. And loved like, they loved like oldies and Art Labo and I just like really dove in like with my whole heart. And I wanted to, some of them were taggers. And so I was like, I'm going to come up with my own like tagger name. You should say tagga. Tagga.

Yeah, yeah. And so. Kind of crazy. The hard AR is crazy. And at this time, I was really having a hard time. with boys and a lot of um there was a rumor that had started about me that i was a face queen that i gave a lot of blow jobs to dudes i had never given blow jobs too but it like caught on like wildfire it was they called me a face queen and so damn you've been in the rumored mills since that long ago

yeah um and it tore me i would live to be called a face queen god you see peter came he's such a face queen he'll suck anything and then this was a time when that song chicken head really blew up too so the lester the worst version was chicken head and i would cry every day I got really depressed. I quit swimming, all of these things. But so I was like, I'm going to be a tagger. But I was like, but you know, I'm going to lean in to this thing that they're calling me, this face screen. So my name was Lix with L-I-X.

I love Licks, dude. Thank you. Licks is my favorite. So I'm Kalila, a K-A-A-Lix. Yeah. I love that. And I wrote it really pretty. But that was like short-lived.

I was only a tagger for like six months because I did my first tag by a bus stop. And I was like, this doesn't feel right. Yeah. Yeah. You were scared. I was still scared. Did you do it on buildings? I'm so curious about this world.

No, I never got like super big into like, no. I was, at my core, I was still a good little Asian girl. Anyways, I was so shameful about it at first, but now you know what I'm free, Gilbert. So fuck you, I'm Licks. Dude, she changed her handle to face queen this weekend. Wait, yeah, you should put out like music as Licks. Yo, seriously? That's funny.

Hey, let's get on that place, too. There is something really funny about someone who's so home. and like chill being a DJ. You know what I mean? Someone who like does not belong in the scene. You're talking about her? Are you calling me out? What?

Are you a DJ? Yeah, she's DJ Kugar. Wait, are you serious? You're a DJ. Look up DJ Kugar. Gaur. What is it's Kugar? No, it's Kugar.

Because when you first told me that, DJ Kugar. No, I had once. She had an accent a long time ago. Wow. But you never had aspirations to become a DJ. Like, okay. Now, I'm like looking into it now.

I look like a DJ right now. Okay, here's the only reason I want to DJ. I don't want to be at the party at all. I don't like being surrounded by people. What the fuck do you want to do? I like, I'm wondering what a DJ does. No, I know. I know that's the gig.

I don't know anything in my music. My partner's a musician. Hold on you don't know anything about music. You hate parties. Don't be around people. I want to be a DJ. I want to be a DJ because every time and this is my like maybe a little like tizzyness. Lytism.

Every time I hear a song, I hear a different song. Oh. And I always sing over that song. Yeah. Because I, like, oh, you're already remixing. Yeah, you already got it. I do it in my head. You already got the BPMs.

The BPMs are right and the core progression. Key words. So I understand the chord, how your chords are changing. I don't know what chord it is and what's going on, but I know it's changing towards this math. And my brain goes, this song is here and I know this song. This song plays and I sing over the song. Oh my God.

Then you should all the time. You still can. I think that you should really explore this. Eric's always like, there's something wrong. There's something like not wrong but right with you. But this is annoying me. You should DJ. I support this.

I do it in the car and he's like, it's in 10 years. At first he's like, whoa, cool. And 10 years later he's like, maybe you should do something with that. So I bring it to the car. Yeah. I'm trying to list to NPR. You're trying to do songs over at VR On the BPM of this

Yeah Like remixing podcast Tiger Burley X Trash Tuesday That's a real skill Because I didn't realize that I've been doing that my whole life Do you play instruments? Zero

Okay so I didn't Nothing You would probably be one of those people That doesn't read music But that can just Nick Cannon Drumline So I can

I don't play anything But I could play piano Does that make sense? Yeah Like if I hear someone playing I could play like I could find where you are Yeah exactly

So you would probably have been a virtual So if you had My mom was right Dude She kept trying to force me into lessons And I was like no I want to read And she was right I should have kept it

Yeah And you did it for the same reason As you had this weird head thing Or you just wanted to be around people parties And yeah I went through a really cringe Ibiza phase Like, tell us this is I've always wanted an Ibiza face

Can we get a graphic? Cringe Abiza face This was right around the time What's the cringest thing that happened to you in Abiza? Ibita. Just, you know, big football players. Not even like that, okay. So everyone had things that, like,

I was a broke nursing student when I went to Ibiza. I was dating a football player in Spain. Oh, it's crazy. I just said, like, a football? Like, actually, like, he played like in La Liga. American football? La Liga, which is like,

like, playing like, an NFL. or MLB here. Wow, okay. So I would go visit Spain a lot. At that time, he played for a small team called Corunia. Yeah, which is on the north part. So I would go to Corunia a lot. What year was his face?

So this was in like 2010, 2011. So this was like a really cool time. Look up the team for 2010, pull up the roster. Spain was like national champs at the time. They were on top of the world. Yeah. Oh, you were Spanish. You were pulling champs.

And so I would go to Spain, but I was also a very broke college kid. So my visa experiences were really. really ratchet. Like they were, I was paying in like, he didn't pay for everything. No, this is when I would go, I'd go visit him because we weren't,

you know, and then I'd go with my friends. She'd fly out. The South, because they had a very strict schedule. Okay. And so I would go to a visa and I was like, God, I was made for this. This is when EDM was like,

I feel like peak. Uh-huh, yeah. And yeah, I was just like, maybe, maybe I can do this. It had nothing to do with actual skill. Because by the time I actually did it, I was like, oh, I suck. Oh, really?

I have a really. good amount of like music knowledge. I just could not execute. I was horrible. So I was like, finally my friend was like, hey, you need to put that down. That's a good friend. And I was like, oh, I think you're right. And so I was like, let this dream die.

I think he just wanted to be a party girl and that's not a dream. That is a dream. How dare you? They're a party girl. Charlie X-CX made a whole life around being a party girl. But she actually has like a skill. No, I know. But like party girls can spin.

That's a thing right now. Party girls? Yes. Girl, if I was a girl, if I was a young girl, I would be on drugs nonstop. This world is crazy. What kind? You just have someone to film it and you're successful. It's crazy.

How dare you? You think that's all it takes? No, but that's a good starting point. No, yeah. It is. You know, no judgment. No judgment. I think what kind of drugs? What are they on?

No, what would you be on if you were a young party girl? I would have been on Mali, but I'm 44. So this is not a Mali body. Like, this body would like convoling. something like but that's so sick dude while just being old and on Molly like that DJ's sick I appreciate all of you

with that face I'd be like just so old you gotta have this guy dude gold house I'll be on DJ fuck Molly I'll be on full math if you invite me I'll come over and you could use me as an article of what not to do

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This is something that I'm sure we've all observed growing up with men and boys in our lives. But why do you guys always, no matter where you are, no matter what functioned, even let's say the gold gala, there's always going to be a corner of the gold gala where boys are just wrestling. But why wouldn't you guys hang out? That's so true. Are people always like wrestling? Why do boys always wrestle each other in a borderline, like, homoerotic way? I mean, our reason is going to be very different. I think it might be the same, actually.

You know, go for it, yeah. I think it's a way of whatever the repression of touch, which I didn't have, because my dad was very physical with me, I think it's a way of being like, hey, dude, I love you. So it's like, for example, Nick. They're also a martial artist, too. When you say hi, it's not even a Dap up with us. it's like immediately get into an underhook and then we turns into a hug and we go like, good to see a man.

So it's always like a way to like engage in physical contact to show affection. I think it's the same exact thing. It's men showing each other affection without the... Words? Well, yeah, physically, but without the like,

with a prescribed structure so that there's no way it could be interpreted as gay. But that's what I... It's that part that makes me sad because to me... But in Korea, boys, like, touch each other. Same in the Philippines. In the Philippines, like, they're arm and arm like this walking down the street and it's not considered, like, no one... Bad.

Yeah, it's... But here in India, right? India, they do the pinky thing. That's so hot. In a lot of places in Europe, they'll do the kiss, kiss, kiss on the lips, right? I'll kiss a guy. That's fine. I grew up...

Did you grow up wrestling with your friends? Honestly, not really. I grew up in a like 20 guy crew, all Asian, mostly Korean. And all we did... Was this your small group at church? This was my large group at church. I didn't know it. I already knew it.

We've Brazilian jiu-jitsued each other into submission every weekend. That's almost too bro-y for me. It was highly toxic, Korean-American. Were they talking shit also? You know the hyung? Yeah, yeah. Dynamic. It was that, but translated into this, like, weird jiu-jitsu framing of sub-dome.

Of, like, I'm going to dominate you into submission. So you got very serious. This wasn't playful. Serious. Yeah, that's a little... That's that weird power dynamic in the church structure, too, with, you know, like, leaders. And then also the Korean... We did it every Saturday Sunday.

And I'm popping boners left them right. They're like, Peter has this technique where it pushes. a saw. We're like, Wow, Peter. He's always on the bottom. He's always just, yeah, he's like, he's a face down ass up.

Oh, yeah, he's ready to tap out. It was interesting because I would not want to get on top because I'm, I don't want them to know I'm hard. So what would you do? I'd always be on the bottom. But you can't hide a boner, brother. Like, I don't know how you're hiding this boner. Yeah.

Are you face down? Just flat prison style? So you're just feeling pain? I'm trying to like make sure my boners on. on the floor. Oh, you're smashing your own door. It's facing up.

It's up. Okay, I got, I got it. So, like, I'm trying to always go, like, slip out of a hold so that I'm on the bottom. Bro.

I know. I got to see in a jihitsu competition. I'd be bad. I would constantly be tapped out. Like, I would, and I enjoyed, like,

playing submissive in that, like, prescribed space. Okay. Does that relate now to your sexual life? Yes. Okay. It helped me navigate it without having to, like, it be overly sexual. You know what I mean?

Like, it's the only thing that my friends and I did that felt power play. Yeah. I would love it if we could all just live in a society where you guys can just, like, be free with just rubbing your dicks on each other. Me too. That's how episode island starts. Let's not do that. I've been asking Gilbert that. God, it's like just kissing.

each other. It's fine. LA Athletic this weekend. Do you still go? I never see you. Where do you go? We go to the same gym. Can I point something out now? This guy? I want to confront you about this. When we went to, I love cold plunging. I'm the guy that's naked in the sauna. I'm very Korean about that. I remember we were dropped. I was trying to convince him to do a cold plunge with me. And when I did it, I was like, hey, Pete, like, I'll jump in. I'll make you do it. It's three minutes. It's going to be like 42 degrees. You hated me

that entire time. Yeah, yeah. But you said, oh, I'll turn away when I get in. I was like, what are you talking about dude because he keeps trying to look at my dinner why are you so self-conscious about that he's trying to look at my day I think he's probably more of like a respect thing do you feel you have to do that in those spaces well I feel like a bunch of dudes like bros there

no I feel like with you because we know each other I don't want to offend you yeah I think that's more of a respect but like we're Asian we do like the we spas like you know it's like I guess so but we've never we've never seen each other naked that's true I mean now we have seen Gilbert's nipples?

No, like naked. They're so iconic. You're talking about the inside of my body. Fully naked. Yeah. He's bent over. His nipples are so iconic.

I had to bring him up at his wedding. We've seen it. I've seen it through shirts. For an hour through an hour sauna session. Did I bring it up at your wedding speech? You did and all my family started clapping

and laughing. Yeah, I had to shout out his very like iconic nickels. They're pretty iconic. It's mostly, I'm not afraid to say it. It's genetically handed over for my mother. Oh, heck yeah.

Not my father. I guess it's also, how did you know that? Let's not be crazy here. Yeah. You keep saying nipples. It's the ariola. Ariola, yeah. I'm a big booty Latina nipple.

Wait, what's a nipple? Not nipple. The nipple is the actual thing, the bullet, right? Nipple is the top. Yeah, and the aureola is the area. And I got ultimate frisbee disc. Yeah, I love them. It's not that big.

It's not that big, but it is bigger than the average male, I would say. Like, I look at yours are like little tiny like parilla seeds. Oh, thanks. Perilla. Parilla. Yeah. I've never been called that before. Racist.

That's your DJ day. Prula seeds. DJ Perilla seeds. So I want to ask you guys this. Like growing up, I always showered with my sisters, my friends. I still do. Like, I'll shower with Jenna. You just posted that like two days ago with Jeddo.

Oh, that's true. But it's like it's so not a thing, right? Like we'll fucking wash our pussy's all hard in front of each other. Oh, God. It was just, was it not like allowed as I, young man to just like, you know, scrub. Oh. No, just like to be, to have that like camaraderie and to talk about your day and like suds

your hair and just like bullshit with your girls. And that makes me sad. No. Growing up, no. But like now at the gym, I'm talking to some of these dudes while we're just showering. Okay, that makes me happy. But like I also like my private time. Now it's better.

Now it's better because I'm an adult about me and my body and my boundaries and all that. Yeah. When I was a kid, I did not want to be same. I remember at the locker, mostly because I was fat. I don't know if you were fat when you're a kid. I'm still fat. No, you're not, do you look great. You're DJ paralyses.

You can look great and still, what, DJ what? Perlose. No, I remember in like middle school because I was always getting made fun of, we, after pee, some guys would shower. I would just pretend I was like stretching still until everyone left. So you see everyone getting naked chimes and just doing this the whole time. Oh, my God, this guy's doing a lot of arm circles. And as soon everyone gets off. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. What's going to go over with him? I think he had a blood clot. Sometimes he's just like Yeah Oh wow That's what happened Dude getting being growing up

Like in Georgia Georgia And you're around You're around white kids or black kids It's all black and white Oh mix It's mixed Okay

A lot of Asians too or not Not a lot of Asians So you were like only Asian And a Only Asian already chubby Kind of awkward All my clothes were from like Frickin

The weird rack And Marshalls So you can just tell Yeah But that's why you got funny Because your Defense and trauma Yeah

And you're like, stay alive. Yeah. I was hiding being gay, so I was trying to stay alive too. So I was making fun of other people. For being gay? No, I never said that. You never said that. No.

I didn't even want to like broach the subject. And if it did, what would you do? Somebody would be like, oh, did you hear so-and-so is gay? And I would just be like, I haven't seen anything. It seemed like a bad detective. I don't know what gay is. How do you spell that? I'm so straight.

I only know lesbian and pussy. Like, I was trying to hide. Yeah. I have a very, I know that people come out on their own time in their own way, and that's a choice that they make for themselves. But I have a very specific beef with, especially older men who I know are closeted still. Yeah, but who are in these really abusive relationships. Okay, I'm going to use my own experience since I can't speak on behalf of many people. But when I was 22, I dated a guy who was 40.

and he was very handsome he was a very well loved artist in the community I thought very highly of him because I was very impressionable and I'm like wow he's so cool I always felt like he was gay

what tipped you off like what's one thing not to say that you can't have like gay friends and not be gay but a lot of his really close friends that he would go visit and then not bring me around were

really extremely good looking black gay black men gay black man okay yeah and they were gorgeous I just was like how come I don't get an intro I want to hang and then you know obviously when we broke up later on I found out like

that like people because we people knew that him and I were together for a while so they'd be like hey girl I just want you to know like I hooked up with your ex many times and I'm like I already know like but he was the most abusive partner to me that I have ever had he beat me oh right he cheated on me

multiple times and it was just like a disgusting being narcissistic human to me. Yeah. And I think it's just such a wound for me when I see someone who's like in a relationship with a woman. And I know I just have this feeling. I'm just like, I think that they're just gay, but they're like not nice to their women.

It's like if you're going to beard her, at least be kind to her. That's gay rage. That's what I was thinking. That's gay rage. It is gay rage. Explain it to me. Well, those people basically run the world. I think those are the most dangerous to people in the world.

What do you mean you run the world? Those type of closeted people run the world. I think those are the type of people who seek power. These are the Epstein files, guys. They don't have power over themselves. I mean, you know what? Did you see the Charlie Sheen documentary? I haven't watched it yet.

I heard it was amazing though. I've been told to watch it. You must watch it. And when it peaks is when he goes, I was so on drugs, so powerful, so unstoppable. Once you've tried everything on one side of the menu, you, you have to flip it over. So I think at a certain point for men, sex isn't about attraction or other.

It's about you, your power, and how you use that power onto someone else. So scary. It's disgusting. The way you describe that, it's insane. That's so scary. I mean, that's what it is at the end of the day once you get to that level, right? So, like, yeah, that's the like cautionary tale, I think, of our. day is like that's what unfettered greed leads to is like dehumanization like you lose your

humanity you need the next thing i hope that's not a universal thing i hope that you know there are people that come into money and power that don't abuse it is there ever is there is there a good example well it just has not be your that's your idol you're just talking about women then if you're making that you're idle then that's what i mean course it's going to be like there are people who are rich by circumstance and there are people who are rich because that's their addiction. They all want to chase. That's the whole identity.

That's what I mean. And that's like all Christianity is about is like don't be fucking, don't be an asshole. And like all the money in the world. And all of them are like, oh, we're even, you know, like, it's such a like easy gaslight. What is reacting to iconic Y2K 90s moments? Oh, I love this. Oh, I didn't even see the links below my dumb ass. Nostalgia porn.

I love this. I just got teary to. I look at them. Really? William. That is Hope Corps right now. William. You know what's so fun?

That is, that's... Sorry, I scream. Yeah, that was very Chinese of you, dude. Relax. You're trying to maxing right now. Can I just say, I would love to get into iconic Y2K 90s moments, but I don't believe you. I feel like we can't do this without Esther. Although, you know what?

You were very much a VH1 guy, so maybe we should try. VH1. I love the Flavor Flav Show. Fred, did we talk about that, like the Rock of Love? Did we watch all that? I watch all of the Rock of Love. I love... Did you watch Teal Teal Teacos?

Of course. She let's takequila a shot at love. Yeah. Yeah, we have a segment on our live show that's like inspired by. She was like the original gay icon. I think so too. And I really. No, no, like for the gays.

Oh, got you. Like we worshipped her because we're like, yeah, sir. Did you guys get it into the MTV challenges? Like the re-hers? Yes, yes. I stopped, but I feel like there are people who are lifers that are still like. CT for life, baby. I love CT for life.

CT was the hottest thing on MTV. Because he was gruff and mean and just with Boston. right? Yeah, and he had these eyes. He was on hinged a bit. That's why I liked it. You could see the whites under his eyes. You know that thing they say like

Some Paku eyes? Yeah. There's a demon inside. Sidney Sweeney has the same eye. So is Billy Eilish and one of our favorites. Ali Lichie Lish uses her power for good. She is a witch too, but Billy Isles is a white witch. Who do you think are good white witches?

Billy I think she's a good white witch. Can you describe what a white witch is for me? Like someone who is powerful? full, but uses for good. Was it you or someone who told me that the reason that the world is coming apart at the seams is because there are too many

white witches? Or a lot of white girls who are practicing practicing witchery? Oh, I'm not talking about the ethnicity of white. I'm talking about like white as in good. Good. Oh. You're talking about Gandalf witches. Blood magic. Blood magic. Okay. So. Ticela's blood magic. Okay, so here we go.

Who else is blood magic? Okay. Good white witches. Billy Eilish. Billy Eilish. What about Chapel Rohn? To be determined. TBD. Interesting. It's a little self-serving.

Is this only musicians? I'm sorry. No, no. So you can go actor world as well. Oh, yeah. Of course. What's like a white witch? Like Catherine O'Hara.

KATHLEEN. Ultimate good white witch. Diane Keaton for me is a great white witch. Another white witch. Yes. I keep naming all white people. Okay. Non-white witches.

White witches? Non-white white witch. Caucasian white witch. Let's name an Asian white witch. Oh, yes. I want to play this game. God, this is hard in the Asian. Oh, I think Margaret is a good white witch.

Margaret is absolutely good white witch. We pull up the gold house list. Goldhouse list. And we can decide. Who you're allowed to say? Who you're allowed to say? Gemma Chan, but I don't know how much power. I guess these people are not really using, they're not like Billy

Alice and Schapelner saying things. I don't really know if they've like used their power for good yet. They're more like neutral. Yeah. So to be determined. Oh, then like Sandra O. Oh. Sandra.

Oh my God. He's very vocal. That's a good witch right there. Yeah. You know, there are a few out here. This is why we're not invited to Gold House. I'm sorry. We're like, name all these white women.

We're like, name Asian white witches. Don't ask me to be here if I can't bring my authenticity. Okay, so let's go to the darkness. The darkness. The bad witches. I have a hot take. Ooh, tell me. Well, maybe I don't know what your audience.

I think Beyonce. Is a good witch? No. No. I'm going dark. I'm going dark. I'm going dark. I'm sorry.

I went to big show. I refuse. And that's the black magic that's tricking you. Listen, also, I love Rihanna, but. Anyone who can be a billionaire has to be dark. Wait, but Rihanna, I feel like is a good witch, you guys. Even Warren Buffett, who we love because he makes good choices, but he is S&P 500, very conservative. There's no way.

Jesus said it, and I'm not even a Christian, Jesus said it, you can't be rich into the kingdom of heaven. You really cannot. He's talking about billionaires. So wait. It's hellish, it's demonic. I do. Okay, I see what you're saying with Beyonce maybe on the bad witch side. But Rihanna is absolutely to me a good witch. I mean, she's an icon because we love her.

That's the trick, guys. I know. We're all tricked and we're all imperfect. Yeah, I always thought that Kevin Spacey was the white witch. And look what happened. You're so dumb for saying that because you don't even believe it. Are there any gay white witches? Should we name?

Yeah. They're all dark. Oh, wait. I want to talk to you about. Wait, can I have a question. Number one dark gay witch, my ADHD. So queer eye. Is there beef there?

JVN. Of course there's beef there. Wait, who's the bad guy? I haven't watched it. How could there not be beef? I forgot which TV show I was watching as a clip. And then I, he didn't show up to the thing. Caramo, Caramo didn't show up.

Because he does not like. So okay, I'll tell you, I'll tell you how it went down. Sorry, did we talk about it? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Of queer eye. Yes.

Right. And Karamo was like, I'm going to bring my mom on set. Okay. So the mom is on set. Karamo leaves to go to like the bathroom or somewhere around. And the mom overhears the cast like shit talking her son. I don't know exactly what was said, but basically he felt, you know, like... The entire cast?

Hot Mike. It was Hot Mike. Oh, no. Yeah. And so the other cast is Anthony Jvian, Tan and the new guy. The new white guy. The new white guy who replaced Bobby, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And so that's, Karama was like, no. So I don't, I don't know. Oh, so was all of them. Interesting. Okay. I just saw that clip and I was confused. He said, bye.

Bye, bitch. I have my own show. Peace. Yeah. And so he went, they all went to the interview. And they were all holding hands. And they were like, why isn't Karamo here? Fake as fuck.

And they were like, well, you know, we really respect his like need to take time for himself and this and that. So everyone's siding. The internet is siding with Karamo. You know what's so ugly being in Hollywood for 10 years is media training. I can't stand it. When I see it, I go, ugh. And this is why I don't get invited to Gold House. Because she can't be media trained.

I just don't like it. I don't think I can be media trained either. I don't like it. I think that's why the internet. Tiger belly, anything is blowing up because of the authenticity. People are sick of that shit. The media trained. We're over it.

Yeah. We see right through it. I do respect it. It's like hack. It's so hacked. I respect it in a way where it's like more of like a skill set where I'm just like, wow, that was a really tough question. They were posed and they dodged that like a fucking ninja, you know?

Do you want to talk about more dark witches? Yeah. Give me one more. Give me one in like a gay dark. Gay dark, all the gay ones are all the gay witches are dark. Every single one. But what a white? gay witch does not exist i don't think i haven't

messed up dude i haven't seen one who probably name one maybe a lesbian oh lesbian there's tons there's tons there's tons and lesbians yeah they're all white bob the drag queen dark i'm not talking about the skin you're talking about a skin

i'm not talking about the same i'm defending bob i'm talking about the energy no he's great he's funny but you're right there's not a comedy is dark yeah dark energy you're saying okay anyone in comedy has got to be a dark witch yeah what about gandolph the guy who plays gandolph She's trying to separate. Gandalf is white. The guy is dark. Sir Ian McKellen.

I love Ian McKellon. He's a knight. Oh, no. There's no way a knight of UK can be a white witch. You know what? You know who was like maybe because I'm a parent? I truly think his entire constitution is pure white goodness witchy. I'm scared.

Mr. Rogers. I think he's white. I don't care what you're doing too much. He's white. He is. He is. No, no, no. I like, no, I did say what.

Just breathe in a little too hard. I wasn't expecting Mr. Rogers. That's why. Yeah, Mr. Rogers is like, oh my gosh. Why was there an Udon that was so long in your mouth? Wait, that's it for me. That's the guy. Earlier we asked the question, like, who would you ride for?

Right for? Mr. Rogers. But I could never see him even. I could never see him. Watching that documentary even made it more like, oh shit, this is a good guy. We did not know how incredible this person was. Yeah, because I'm re-watching all the episodes from beginning. I need like a list of hope.

Or Mr. Rogers, because I'll tell you what, everything that he says is stuff you wish you heard as a kid. Because I never watched it as a kid. Did you cry? A little bit rewatching? Every time I watch it with my son, I cry. And I'm like, why, I could have, I could have been told this by someone that I matter, exactly that I'm loved for being exactly who I am. Like, I wouldn't have had that hair color. I wouldn't have died in orange.

Because no one told her that she was loved or not. I wouldn't have been a face queen. She wouldn't have wore a chucker hat just on the tippy top of her. her head like floating like this. Damn. I want the album, the EDM album from Licks called Face Queen. And it's just gay fucking idiom, like hard gay club beats. That sounds really good.

I think that'd be so sick. I can't believe there's no white gay witches. That's kind of messed up. I know. You're still trying to think of one. I'm like, actually like while you guys are talking about who is it? I don't think I could name one. Ellen is dark.

Dark as fuck. Dark side. Who has mentioned? Who has mentioned that like on the Epstein file? that like shocked you. Shots? I mean, everything seemed kind of pretty like No one shocked me.

Yeah, I feel like nothing is shocked. There's a lot of misinformation. So please go to DOJ. DoJ.gov backslash Epstein. Promocode Peter Cam. You can lose an entire three days to that. What do you think is, is there going to be actual like fallout

for these people are zero? No, absolutely not. I don't think in the way we can, through the legal system, no. It's going to have to be French Revolution. But don't you even think like even just these files coming out now, it's like a distraction for something else?

Everything is always a distraction. I think everything else was a distraction against from the Epstein files. Because this is like murder. This involves babies. This involves like. I mean, remember that screaming voice message of him going like, don't fucking relax him. I'll take everyone down with me.

Like that was. Oh, Trump. Yeah. That was crazy. I was like, whoa, that's pretty nutty. Yeah. It's almost too written. Do you guys know what I mean?

I was just talking about this with someone else. I'm like, are we Hollywood, like, is this a Hollywood gag? It's all scripted, it feels like. It feels very all out, check out the show. Mark Burnett presents. Like, you know what I mean? Like, the craziest reality show, like, somehow Apple's going to come out with like, hey, we've been recording the world for the last five years and then just like, we're in that right now.

You're going to throw me into a spiral into, back into the simulation. Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers. He's real. He's a kind man and he says really important things. I'm being hyperbolic, but it does feel a little too scripted. My conspiracy a little bit and I'm like, God, this is so well done. I know. I'm like, usually when my passport is about to expire, I let it expire and I let it sit and then I'm like, you know what? Before a trip, I'll expedite it. Do you know how quickly I got on that website to renew my passport? I just, I just, you know how quickly I'm,

like, we got to take my baby, get his passport pictures. I feel really fucking weird about where we're at. It's not a good feeling at all. It's not great. It's not great. But I'm so glad we're here to get it together to watch it all burn. Me too. I mean, California of all places is like really the spot.

Oh yeah, 100%. But I feel like this is where it might get hot. Like, because we are, we would revolt with our whole chest. Yeah. I feel as though, like, you know. There's 8 million people in L.A. Like, how are they? They're not even paying there.

Did you see all that Reddit stuff about the ice? Dude, you just deep in the internet every day. So ICE agents are realizing that their bonuses aren't going to kick in. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to laugh so hard. No, it's crazy. I love the guy who was like, if you erase your voice, I will erase your voice. You're like, I got a translator for this too. I love him.

He was like, why are you? stopping me and he was like because you have an accent and he's like you got a fucking accent yeah that's so funny that's another like scripted thing like oh wow that's really how fucking fast this comeuppance was

yeah that like you joined for 50k and you realize that like it's over five years and if you get fired or whatever you have to pay it all back like they're realizing they're not getting any money so they're not even getting their bonuses which ever everyone was bragging about them are not even getting their first checks so that even shows you how some people

how bad we are economically where people are like I need money. That's what I mean. See it's so many things you're just like they like broke their economy so that they can take advantage of these like four. But also it's like if you can't beat them, join them and if you're like an immigrant and you're scared of your status like to feel like pressure

to like join ice so that you know they'll fuck with your family. I'm writing a sketch about there right now about being like the worst immigrant with the thickest accent trying to join but he can't any of the physical stuff or there was that one woman a journalist who applied for

ICE and she went through undercover undercover not undercover because she gave her real name and she was like I have a very Googlerable name like if you four seconds in four seconds you could basically figure out who I am all the articles I've written against this administration

they didn't do all that she went all the way to drug testing and even before she received the packet in in her email that she missed and she was like oh, they're probably not going to hire me. She looks at the site and she's already in their roster. So it's just like, no, it's not even that they're desperate. They don't know who they're hiring.

Yeah. That's what I mean. Like there shows you no vetting process at all. No, no, no, it's like a fucking intern from Cal State. Oh. Oh, shit to Cal State. I'm sorry. I just didn't want.

I don't know why I said that. I love that place. Creation's better and more expensive. Let's go light, guys. Bro, Michael Jackson hanging his baby over a ledge. I remember that. Oh, my God. Was that, what was the name?

Blanket? Blanket. Yeah. And you see his kids now that I just like don't want to do anything with him. Well, yeah. Yeah. Remember when we thought that was the worst thing he did to a child?

Clip it and it cuts all the news stories. So actually just go through the 90s moments. Let's do that. She walks like she toss and she tossed like she was. She bangs. She bangs. Oh, baby. And she moves.

She moves. Randy Jackson. Pretty stomach staple. Before he lost 80 million pounds. Isn't that crazy that Randy, did Randy Jackson actually get his tummy stapled? I think so, yeah. Wow.

That's what we got from the William Hung clip. That Randy Jackson had gastric bypass. Hey, yeah, let's use the correct terms. We're like stapled. Yeah, that he had bariatric surgery. Remember that used to be a thing? And now you don't do it anymore. It's all something.

What's healthier do you think? I would be so mad if I had a pretty traumatic, bariatric surgery, because that's a very difficult surgery, only to find out later that I could have just been on GLP once. Yeah, no, that's so. I mean, is Randy Jackson okay? I hope so. Yeah, I think so.

I hope he's okay. But I will say this about William Hung. Yeah. Number one, iconic, so sweet. I love Paula in this clip because she gets it. She's supportive. She's like, this guy is a star. He's so fucking cute.

And I think that Randy Jackson and Simon are like just so like, you know, pick me's right now. And she gets it. I've always loved Paula for this. She sees like, you know, deep, something deeper. Also,

culture has changed. You don't see shows like this where the judges are this disrespectful to people. Yeah. And this, they're just being mean at this point. Yeah. That's like the producers bringing him in.

Exactly. And they're doing a gotcha moment. Like we're all, it's like, again, like to media training, we're like, we're seeing right through it.

Yeah. That's even mean. to watch them see that. I'm like, oh, you put that on national TV. But he made a whole career from it, right? He did. He did great. He's a motivational coach now, I think.

Is he? Which is really amazing, yeah. Good for him. Good for him. I was just thinking because his voice isn't like terrible. It's not. It was more his face, right? Ooh, that's interesting.

That's a really hot take, Peter. That they're laughing at. That didn't double down. He had an Asian face that was laughable. Take me to Gold House. But you know, I dated a guy that looked like this, right? So I have a black friend moment. Go ahead.

That's not I have a black friend moment. So me a photo of puppet. He's probably handsome. Yeah, it wasn't puppet. Can I tell you how fucking the reason that I overlooked what I thought was like kind of like a charactery, kind of cartoonish look about him? It was the fact that he was so wildly talented. He was a great artist. He was Korean and white, but he was, he lived here up in Panama.

So he spoke Spanish. He just looked weird. He just looked like there was like something weird But hell yeah Like I he was you know Very bangable The way they presented him They were clearly going for the joke like

Oh is this guy The R word Yeah yeah I think so Which is fucked up on their part right Because it's like the point was to humiliate Correct This man It was a punching down

Way big time punching down Correct and they don't Beem a star But good for William Hung For fucking rising up because Make the best of it He did. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a hero. Second moment. I bet he's been to the gold house. Clay Aiken. White? Oh. What?

Which? Never mind. No. No. I'm getting a lot of nose. He sucked in too hard. My gut is saying no. He sucked in too hard.

My heart wants to say yes, but my gut, there's something. I got to trust my gut. Okay. Sorry, Clay, no offense. I don't know you. I don't know you. I don't know you. I don't know you.

Presents Dark, but it's actually light. Yeah. I think light. Love his creep brandition. Fantastic. I heard him live at Jesus Christ Superstar and he was crushing at the bowl. It was incredible. Yeah, he is insane.

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