Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Hand Me Down Underwear w/ Cat Cohen
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I guess we should start here.
These are actually hand-me-down underwear.
That is not a sentence.
You guys...
And welcome back to Trash Tuesday.
Jenna is currently cleaning my glasses with her underwear.
Thank you.
And tell them what you just referred to your panties as.
They're hand-me-down underwear.
From whom?
From my friend Anna.
She wore them for 10 years and now they've been mine for 10 years.
10 years?
Yeah, I am shook to my core.
They don't even make this underwear anymore.
That's such a good run.
They don't make this underwear anymore.
They are like chic vintage underwear.
I'm kind of taken aback.
I can see why you'd want to hold on to those for a decade.
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Okay, you know how Victoria's Secret, like I'm sorry to bring it up, it's obviously so embarrassing right now, currently the current form of it, but like back in the day, do you
remember?
What?
When Victoria's Secret was like our only option?
Oh yeah, pink.
Okay.
Remember pink for teens?
Yeah.
That like changed my life.
It's...
What are you doing on with your glasses?
I know. Let me see what I can do. Make that go in. I'm wearing sort of like a sat life. It's. Something's going on with your glasses. I know.
Let me see what I can do.
Make that go in.
I'm wearing sort of like a satin.
Yeah.
There is something wrong with my glasses
and I'm feeling naked.
I cleaned them again and they're good but.
Did you like do that?
Just spit on them.
Just do it.
I choked them.
But like.
We used to hoard this one specific type of panty
at Victoria's Secret that they discontinued.
The Incredible Panty.
Oh yeah, Esther and I went crazy in college for these.
What were so incredible about them?
Pretty much nothing.
Actually, Skims is currently like a very close dude.
Skims has like the same one.
What cut do y'all like?
I like high, like if it can be where my bra ends.
No, me too.
That's so disgusting.
You're fuller.
You're nasty.
Look at where you wear your pants.
That's just today.
Wear your pants.
Oh my God, I'm so embarrassed.
They're supposed to be lower.
Ew.
Wait, let me see.
No, they're just like high right now.
Okay, this looks the same as what I did.
I didn't do anything.
I just wanted to get involved.
Wait, can I just say that I am very pro low rise.
Okay, I'm a girl of the 2000s.
We know.
And I don't care what your body type is.
I don't care what's going on with your body.
I don't care what diseases you have.
Low rise is hot.
It's disgusting.
My pre-existing conditions make it
that I can't wear low rise.
Yes, yes.
I too, I like a high rise underwear
with like a full coverage on my butt.
Yes.
I wanna be like really taken care of.
Yeah, I wanna feel like I'm hugged.
Cause you don't want the in between cut
where you're like, is it bunching in?
It's not enough.
I guess we just all have juicy booties.
So we have real problems.
And I definitely don't want low.
That's so stupid.
So I'm just gonna go ahead and say that again.
I love your paparazzi photos.
Thank you.
They bring me a lot of joy.
Thank you so much.
I just told her that this morning.
They're so good.
I need to do some more.
How do you do them?
My...
She pays the paparazzi.
Of course, I know they show up everywhere you go.
They just show up when I go to Starbucks.
It's so annoying.
Go back, go back, go back.
It's like, I'm like, I'm in Woodland Hills,
like let me fuck me.
It's literally stressful. Wait, I'm so rude, I, like let me fuck me. Literally stressful.
Wait, I'm so rude, I'm the rudest girl alive.
Are there any waters?
Are you kidding?
I'm shot down.
How did you know room temp?
Cause I asked for it this morning.
But is that yours or do you want it?
I'll have cold.
No, you will not have cold.
You will not have cold.
It's the first thing I asked for this morning
when I walked in, so don't feel bad.
Warm, room temp.
Yeah, it's better for the voice. And we're using our instruments today.
By the way, if you're not aware, the funny, funny, beautiful woman here today has a new special.
Thank you.
On Beeps.
Shout out.
Woo woo!
She has a new album.
That is so nice.
A new album. Where do we get the album?
It'll be everywhere. On Spotify, on Friday.
And it's called?
Overdressed. It's such a good name. It's kind of like a holiday album. And it's called- Overdressed.
It's such a good name.
It's kind of like a holiday album.
Really?
Isn't that funny?
Thank you so much.
I love when people like do art for the holidays.
Yeah, it wasn't like by choice.
Um.
She's like, that's loser.
Meeg, the idea of covering one side of my mouth
and speaking directly into the podcast.
It's beautiful.
Well, basically- It's drama. Well, basically, this one was like,
sometimes it's a good entry point for like a new artist
to be like a little holiday moment for some reason.
But you're not a new artist.
Musically, I haven't put out an album before.
Oh, that makes sense.
I buy that.
Because I do like songs in my standup,
but this is like poppier.
They're funny songs, but they're poppier.
Oh my god.
I'm really excited.
I'm excited too.
So into that.
And I'm drawing a big release party tomorrow.
Everyone's invited.
We're going, remember?
Didn't know you before today.
The details are-
I had no way to access you.
The details are coming though.
Details forthcoming.
You're so funny and like special,
and there's no one like you.
I'm right back at you.
We've been trying to make this happen for so long.
I'm so happy.
I know, I know.
Instant best friends.
Instant.
Promise.
Sleepover tonight.
We live in this,
but you know, we stay in here 24 hours a day
and then they just start recording every now and then.
They turn the cameras on.
So wait, you're in a relationship.
Yes.
And five years, I heard.
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
I recently listened to you on a podcast to prepare.
That's really nice.
What did I say? You said. I wanna That's really nice. What did I say?
You said, what did you say?
What podcast? My own?
I can't stop podcasting.
No, I was listening to some random interview,
but wait, oh, one of my fans wants to know
what do you eat for breakfast?
Me?
Yeah.
I don't really eat breakfast.
What?
I'm like a lunch, well, I eat like savory things.
I like egg bites from Starbucks.
Do you have like, do you start your day with like a coffee?
Like what are you doing? I'll make a black coffee in a water
But usually I wake up and as late as possible as late as like my life allows that is so romantic
Oh that makes sense. Why do you start with lunch?
I also prefer lunchy foods. Wait, so I also this is what I wanted to bring up
You said on the podcast that you have like a super oh my god. I'm scared. What I said? Oh my god
You're a hypochondriac and you have like a wellness routine.
Oh, you guys are best friends.
Yes. What is it?
Well, especially when you're touring,
it's like you can't get sick.
Yeah.
I'm out of the game right now.
What do you mean?
No, I'm not really touring at this moment.
I guess I am.
Really? I feel like you're always touring.
Is that an insult? I mean, not in this moment.
That's actually so rude. It's so violent. When someone's always touring, I'm like, wow, moment. Is that an insult? That's actually so rude.
It's so violent.
When someone's always touring, I'm like,
wow, they have so many ideas.
They have so much material.
No.
Wait, but I want to know your wellness routine.
Okay, so I'm not in it right now
because I'm not performing or anything, but.
Thank you for sharing and clarifying that.
Well, that's why I'm so relaxed and easygoing right now.
But three liters of water a day.
Okay.
I'm addicted to Zycam zinc tablets.
Every four hours, I believe, every three to four hours.
Wait, what?
You need zinc.
Let her.
Just when you're not.
I don't want you to stop.
I don't want you to stop.
Let them.
Let them.
Let them.
Water, zinc, raw garlic.
How do you consume that?
With her mouth?
If I don't have anywhere to be
and I can just like stink up my house,
I just eat it raw.
Like you're chewing it?
You chew a clove of garlic and swallow it.
And then you need to eat something before or after
so you don't do it on an empty stomach.
Okay.
Wellness formula, I'm sure you use.
It's such an OG.
It's the one, it's that girl.
That's like Chelsea Peretti,
like back in the day was on that.
I feel like she must've passed that down
through generations of calling.
I know, that's where it started,
just so you know who came before you.
I need to respect those who came before me.
Cause I think Greta Tittleman told me about that
and she said Julio Torres told her about that.
Okay, there's really a little trace there.
There's more.
And then it's just about,
like I'll make a soup with just like every vegetable in it
to try and get all those vitamins as well.
What do you do?
So I have like so many supplements that recently,
Dave, my husband was like, just so you know,
like this is the kind of thing where like
you walk into a person's house and you see this
and you're like, okay, this is the house of a crazy person.
Like this is, this person is crazy.
I'm like.
I have my things too.
Like I just have like a pile of supplements
and then I'm like a little like not herbalist,
but like I'll call myself a doctor.
And I'll just like pick for that day.
But you know, we're looking at like,
obviously you're omega-3 fish oil situation.
What's that reaction?
That was actually so cruel and unusual.
Sorry, first of all, I want to come to your apothecary.
I'm like dying to have you make me a tincture.
But I'm like a ball about immunity,
but in terms of like vitamins improving my life,
I don't know if I partake.
Oh, you're just specific.
So you're not doing any B12, K2.
I would say every six to eight months,
I'll buy CoQ10 or whatever and NAD plus.
And then nothing ever changes.
Do you get blood work?
I've gotten blood work.
What kind of a stupid-ass question is that?
That'll help you tailor your tincture. Oh.
Like my eye was vitamin B12 deficient.
Oh, that must be, isn't that comforting
when the doctor's like, this is what's wrong?
Yes, because half, most of the time,
everything's great.
To be clear, I did not get blood work,
so I'm just going off of vibes.
Instinct.
Which is that, instincts and vibes.
So what do you take?
You know, we'll do a multivitamin
that I found in a random grocery store in Marin County.
I will do...
Everything that I tell you to do?
Yeah, what she tells me to do.
So are you really in tune?
And like the immunity thing is my jam.
Well, so I need recommendations.
Wait, I'll let you finish.
I really don't, I have nothing else of, nothing wise.
So what I do... Girl, play nice. I really don't, I have nothing else of, nothing wise. So what I do.
Girl, play nice.
What did you say, did anyone hear?
She's worthless.
What did you say?
I speak to her how she wants to be spoken to.
I don't hear insults, they just, they're like.
It's her lovely language.
Oh my God, do you hear compliments
or do you not like those?
No.
I don't know.
When you compliment me though, it's like really, it's like a, it's a big deal.
You're like so cool and special.
No, you'll be sick of me soon.
I promise.
Wait, same.
When I, okay, mood.
When I compliment my best friend, Pat,
he recoils at my touch.
He doesn't like it.
Interesting.
And he's your best friend.
He can't accept love.
And from me.
Now, wait, I do want to talk about your relationship
because I heard.
My romantic relationship.
Yeah, I heard that it was open and then closed.
That's amazing news.
Mine was open and then closed.
Amazing news?
Yeah, I mean, it's constantly shed me
and it's like, no, obviously.
We both got to make out with someone
and then we were like, that was dumb.
My experience was like,
I feel like he did it just to do it,
because I did it and then we were both like,
okay, we're even, let's move on.
Oh, that's cute.
What was your experience?
Well, I've been in a relationship for 12 years
and we did open clothes, open clothes, high school.
But we were not together in high school.
I was like, not into high school. And you all met in college. Wait, you guys went to high school, but we were not together in high school. I was like, not into him in high school.
Wait, you guys went to high school together?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Ew, what?
Same grade?
He's younger.
What?
He's not eager.
You're my best friend, I didn't know this.
A bitch who's done.
I thought you met him in LA.
We did not meet in LA.
You just reconnected.
Yes, he loves to say we met in LA,
and I'm like, bro, we went to the same parties
in high school.
We have the same group of friends.
What were each of your vibes in high school?
In high school, well, I was out of control.
In what way?
Can you explain?
No, I don't feel like, I didn't know you.
Same in college, same in college.
I was just like-
Party girl.
Well, I didn't drink or smoke or anything like that,
but I seemed like I was drunk and high everywhere.
So just like taking my clothes off, partying.
That's amazing.
You sounded beautiful.
You sound fun.
Just doing a lot of things that drunk and high people do.
You know what is blowing my mind
that you guys knew each other in high school?
That's such a deep fantasy for me.
Like I always like to think about what it would be like
to know Deve in high school.
Yeah, it feels special.
I love to like cosplay.
Is that like, I don't know.
It's just, do you think about that with your partner?
Show me your yearbook picture.
He loves being like,
cause he was really bad at school and I like loved school
and that it turns him on to be like,
I was like the good girl.
And he would be like, I'm gonna like fuck shit up for you.
And I'd be like, stop.
I love that.
It turns Dave off that I didn't get amazing grades.
I did, cause I didn't get amazing grades.
He's like, whereas I feel like in the past,
you play the Jessica Simpson dumb role
and guys are like, not Dave, he's disgusted.
He's not like other guys.
No, if I saw a girl reading a book,
I'd be like, keep her away from my man.
Yeah, that checks out.
That's a threat.
That's a threat to me.
He wants a nerd and you're the cheerleader.
Yeah, thank you, you said it.
And by the way, go team.
I was on Vaquettes, the Palm Squad.
Were you?
Freshman year only though.
So, there's not my whole personality.
And then I, theater.
Wait, you did theater, right?
Of course.
Oh my God.
Is that what led you here?
I don't know.
What do you mean?
But when did you start, like when you were like,
I should do standup.
When I was in college, I was really depressed.
I knew that I, so I was a dance major and I remember one day being at the bar, the ballet bar. And I was like, I should do stand up? When I was in college, I was really depressed. I knew that I, so I was a dance major
and I remember one day being at the bar, the ballet bar
and I was like, it's really-
Okay, I'm so sorry.
Obviously I'm like, okay, you're at the dive bar.
Like drinking your sorrows away.
I'm at the bar is crazy.
And then you said I'm at the ballet bar.
I'm at the fucking bar at 10 a.m. in the morning
and I just looked at myself.
Wearing tights.
And I had to do a pirouette and I was just like.
No, I literally remember standing there being like,
it's really weird that I'm going into a job
where I don't speak.
And then like everything's just like from there,
I was like changed my major
and then eventually ended up dropping out.
But like, I think I knew I wanted to be in comedy
and I, you know what it is.
I moved to LA and in Chicago, I did improv, like I did IO and stuff like that.
And I got to LA and I was like, I don't have friends.
I can't do improv.
And that's why I started stand up.
Wait, what about, cause I didn't know anyone.
What about you?
Wait, but yeah.
I mean, similar, I was like doing theater
and then I moved to New York, was doing improv and sketch.
And then was like, I guess I,
I feel like I saw people do standup and I was like,
wait, like I could do that.
Yeah. I was like, I could try that.
Yeah.
But even now I'm like, I have no idea how to do it.
No, I have no idea.
I tell her all the time. Esther's always like,
I don't know what I, I literally don't know how to do it.
I don't know what I'm doing. I'm not a comedian.
I've never written a joke.
Same. I stand by that so firm.
Same. That's insane to me. I feel the same way all the time. And now I'm like trying to start fresh and I'm doing, I'm not a comedian. I've never written a joke. Same. I stand by that so firm. Same.
That's insane to me.
I feel the same way all the time.
And now I'm like trying to start fresh
and I'm like, okay, actually Googling like,
awkward chat.
Dear chat, she's a D.
I'm like, what's funny?
No, it is really overwhelming to start over.
That's sort of like kind of the mode that I'm in now.
And there's nothing there.
There's nothing, there's a few things, but yeah
There's always some I mean a little half something half stuff
Is that car for real or we're just yeah, we have a car alarm happening
I think Stella just went to go kill someone. Don't it's face is crazy
Don't I wait cuz it was smushed on the side. Oh
Love a snow day. You're lucky your personality is so good. Why?
Just like she's-
Oh her, I thought yours.
I know, I could tell that you thought she said your personality.
Your personality's so good.
You're lucky your personality's so good, that's crazy.
You're lucky Donut's personality.
Did you see how much I loved it?
I felt so alive.
Tell me.
Say more.
You have it all.
I was saying the dog.
Oh, got it, I knew that.
Like what if she was wild?
It'd be so stressful.
What if she was a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit more like a little bit Tell me. Say more. You have it all. I was saying the dog. Oh, got it.
I knew that.
Like what if she was wild?
It'd be so stressful.
She wouldn't be here.
Well she wouldn't be here.
Yeah, and sometimes she is,
but she's in a good mood today.
God, she's perfect.
Don't lay on my phone.
Like last week, she was wild all night.
She's getting all the good vitamins from your phone.
Yeah, the 5G gives you a good outlook on life.
Yeah, girl. Wait, so whatG gives you a good outlook on life.
Yeah, girl.
Wait, so what vitamins do you take?
Okay, so I do vitamin B12.
I have a prescription vitamin D, which-
Okay, Flex, Brad.
How many?
50,000.
50?
How often do you take that?
It's one week and then off for like three weeks or something.
Wow, I've never heard of that.
Yeah, I haven't really started doing it
because it scares me that it's so many.
And then I'm supposed to be on progesterone.
You get pills and then you don't take them
because you're scared.
I understand.
But B12, I do take every single day.
And then when I get into my immunity cook,
I do colloidal silver like three to four times a day.
That is mother God.
That is gonna turn you blue and kill you.
Colloidal silver?
You didn't watch the mother God documentary.
I'm not watching it.
Cause it's kind of-
Did you watch it?
Of course I did.
I have the spray.
I have the-
No, no.
It has been keeping me healthy for years.
It's not.
It's literally slowly.
It's preserving your body.
So that when you die, you'll never change.
Great.
Yeah.
This is amazing.
But while I'm alive, it is also preserving my body.
The whole documentary is about them selling colloidal cells.
It's so amazing. Guys, Claretto preserving my body. The whole documentary is about them selling colloidal silver. It's so amazing.
Guys, colloidal silver is great.
Then I also-
We're gonna get flagged on YouTube for this.
You're like selling it.
I do elderberry, like in a tincture or in a glug glug glug.
I also do counter attack, which has like zinc,
oregano oil, ashwagandha.
That oregano oil is major.
Counter attack sounds good.
Counter attack, you know. That's an attack. You know, that's an only.
Yeah. Where do you buy that?
Whole foods sprouts.
Amazing.
What else do I do that I always tell you to do?
I don't know.
I'm you know what I'm getting into.
Do you want to know how cool I am about to be?
Herbal loose leaf teas.
That's amazing.
Can you believe it? What's it like? I don't know teas. That's amazing. Can you believe it?
What's it like?
I don't know yet.
What's this?
I don't fuck around with immunity stuff.
Where do you get all this?
The store?
You know, this store.
The website?
This is cool.
Do you just squirt this?
You can have it if you want.
Yeah, after you eat
and look at all the other stuff it has in it.
I'm scared of this.
I swear.
Tell people.
I'm very serious about. I swear you tell people I'm I'm how do you know this about immune system?
Thank you
That's so nice carry on
Thank you your relationship
Thank you so much
Pass out there carry me off
Got her she's are you scared of taking new stuff to yeah, I am
We got her, she's out. Are you scared of taking new stuff too?
Yeah.
Because I am.
Yeah, like when I first went on Prozac,
it took me like three years to try it.
I had to be like, I kept being like, I need it.
Oh no, no.
And then like finally you get into a dark enough place
that you're like.
When did you start it?
I started it like peak lockdown, like COVID times.
I started my Lexapro right around COVID starting.
And it's just, I just want you to know that like,
it gives me so much peace to hear that you're a fellow SSRI
queen, just because I, so I went off of it
when I got pregnant and then-
Are you supposed to go off there or does it not matter?
No, I literally was just like, I'm good.
And then I was not good.
And you were so nauseous too.
Yeah, I was too nauseous.
Like I didn't want to take any pills.
But then like this past like few months, I've had the darkest era ever. were so nauseous too. Yeah, I was too nauseous, I didn't want to take any pills. But then this past few months,
I've had the darkest era ever,
so it's finally working again.
But it was so dark that I was judging myself
for needing an SSRI, right?
I'm like.
Really?
Yeah, I was like, I'm a bad mom.
I should just be a perfect mom and not need drugs.
It was so self-hating.
So I'm like, it just still brings me peace
to hear other people normalize it, even though it's so normal.
I feel like it was rare that someone I know isn't on one.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
I'm too afraid to.
That's how scared I am to take.
I don't think they really,
I don't think mine really work,
so I'm not that scared of taking them.
But I have gone off them twice,
and I'm like, because I'm like, I'm good,
and then I'll be crying so much.
Yeah. Prozac rule, I'm a prozac early.
How much do you take, is that rude to ask?
I take 40 milligrams a day and then I up it
around my period.
That's so smart.
Amazing.
That's so smart.
We gotta use the tools that are available to us.
We do.
Okay, really important, I have to get this out there.
Who are your pop stars?
Oh, like the ones I love?
Yeah. I mean, I feel like the ones I love? Yeah.
I mean, I feel like the classic is,
I grew up being obsessed with the Spice Girls.
Yes.
In like a really intense way.
Like they really, and that's also probably
why I love like the UK so much too.
Oh, you love these.
You look like a Spice Girl, that's what it is.
Yeah.
Don't lie to me.
That's what it is.
I look like a Spice Girl?
The boots are giving Jerry Halliwell,
who's your favorite?
The boots and the dress. I think I love a mini dress boot combo.
Well, growing up I was a tomboy, so I always liked sporty,
but now I'm more of like a, yeah,
Jerry would be the goal maybe.
I was always a Jerry.
I was sporty.
That's so cool, really.
And I would go, yeah, of course.
I loved him so much.
And now I like all the pop girlies.
I mean, it's such a moment.
Are you, like, I would say that Gaga
is definitely my number one.
Like, just, she just made it all happen for everyone.
A hundred percent, especially now, like, you know,
it's been such a pop girl summer,
but then she comes through with disease and she says,
let me show you who invented this.
It has been a pop girl summer.
It's hard for me that she's taken this pivot
to wanting to be a movie star.
Like, I want her to just sort of let it go.
Maybe with the flop of Joker 2, it'll be okay now.
We'll be safe.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, Sabrina and Chappell this summer,
it's been really special.
I love Chappell so much.
Sabrina the Teenage Witch?
What?
I'm just kidding.
Sabrina the Carpenter.
We haven't had a moment like this in so long
where pop music is back or something. I don't know. Yeah the Carpenter. We haven't had like a moment like this in so long where pop music is like back or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's so good.
The whole chapel album is like perfect.
And where are you at with Taylor Swift?
Like, did you go to Aras?
I'm a huge Swiftie.
You are.
What do you guys think?
I went to the Aras tour.
Here?
Yes.
Loved it.
It must have been star studded.
It was, was it?
High and Wars opening.
Anything? Love.
Love them, love those girls.
And I loved the Arrows Tour.
I love the hits.
There's so many hits.
I was never an OG Swifty though.
Like for me, it's, but now I'm like,
oh my God, it's amazing.
The catalog. Totally.
What you're like, she's your- I keep in mind, I'm from Texas. Tim McGraw comes out now I'm like, oh my God, it's amazing. The catalog. You're like, she's your-
I'm from Texas.
Tim McGraw comes out.
I'm learning it on my guitar.
I'm 14 years old, 15 years old.
Excuse me.
And I feel like she's raised me.
I did, I will say I have a blind spot.
I missed, when I was in college, I was like, I'm too cool.
Stopped, I'd missed like Speak Now in red.
So I was kind of like, too cool.
I'm punk rock, like you guys will never understand.
During your Avril era, Kelly Osborne.
Yeah, I was listening to nonstop Ozzy Osborne.
Now I'm like at Urban Outfitters buying Doc Martens.
I'm so fucking punk.
But then got back into it,
Reputation's probably my favorite era.
Oh really?
What do y'all think?
1989.
I like that one a lot too.
But I actually think Antihero is the best song ever made.
Can you tell me how that one goes?
No.
Reflecting in the mirror, this.
What is the lyric?
It's so good.
It's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me.
Yes.
You guys don't know that like right off the beat?
I can like know a song, but the words, the album,
I mean like the name of the song, the album,
I don't know, I'm not good with that.
I come out to that song on every show.
Like it is so, I mean it's so.
I wasn't like old, okay I did like Taylor Swift
when I was younger, but I was never like a fan fan
and I still think that like she dope, she raw,
but I'm not like.
But when folklore hit, it united the nation.
It really did.
That was a dark time.
It was.
And we came together and we said,
we like this girl right now.
And it's beautiful when society likes a girl.
She did cure COVID.
She did cure it.
She invented the vaccine.
She gave me mine.
She cut the ribbon and shot me up.
Lucky.
Wait, how are you feeling out in LA as a New Yorker?
Like, do you hate it?
Are you like, ew, get me out?
Or is there a bug biting you?
Like, what's happening?
I mean, first of all, every single friend of mine
obviously has like moved out here
to make their dreams come true.
So it is nice to see everyone.
I just love New York so much.
Yeah.
But I feel, I do feel like when I'm here,
oh my God, I'm just so obsessed with her.
It's like that face is, look at that face.
Oh, we know.
It looks fake.
If all you did the rest of the time was talking
about how beautiful she is, Esther would love it.
Do you think she'd want to sit in my lap at some point?
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, I'm gonna run a bar over here.
Should we put her, yeah, put her in here. Oh my God. Only if she love it. Do you think she'd want to sit in my lap at some point? Yeah. Yeah. OK, I'm going to run by her. Should we put her in your lap?
Oh my god.
Only if she likes it.
See my bra when I grab her?
Good girl.
Hi.
Oh.
Good girl.
It's like Christmas.
Dona, sit.
Come early.
Dona, sit.
My precious babe.
Donut appreciation really means a lot to me.
Did you really?
She, like when people get it,
it just means a lot to me and Dave.
Cause we just sit and worship her.
Like I love her as much as I love my human baby.
It's like, she's just.
I would say you love Donut a little more.
Well, I can't say that legally.
Cause it'll take my child away.
Did you always want kids?
No. Wow. Do always want kids? No.
Wow.
Do you want kids?
I don't know.
I froze my eggs.
How'd it go?
I need to freeze my eggs so badly.
It went good.
I did it like two years ago.
Why did you do it?
I have PCOS.
Me too.
Oh, do you?
That's why I have the progesterone
that I was prescribed.
I was also just diagnosed with PCOS.
Are you serious?
And I don't believe it, but the doctor was-
Yeah, yours is a little pregnancy induced.
Well, you got pregnant easily?
I had a miscarriage first, three years ago,
but then the next time it worked.
But you don't really show any of the other PCOS symptoms.
How did you know you have PCOS?
Because I wasn't getting my period for like-
I haven't bled in over a year.
12 months.
And I was like, this is awesome.
My mom's like, we need to go to the doctor.
This is in like, I guess it must have been
in early college, I was like, I never get my period.
Do you get it now?
Not really, like I just went back on birth control.
I'm stressed out about the mic not being right.
Can you put it in your mouth?
Is this good?
Yeah, do you want it inside my mouth or outside?
Okay, cool.
Deep throat it, just take it there.
Let me know if you want it, if you want it,
yeah, where you want it.
Anyways, yeah, she wasn't giving me a period.
Yeah.
I feel like I've, thankfully I don't have tons of this.
You don't have the symptoms.
Yeah, I mean.
She doesn't bleed.
I don't bleed.
True.
My testosterone is super high,
my progesterone is super low,
so I'm like unwell mentally.
Yeah.
And also feel like that all the time.
When I have intraaginal ultrasounds,
they're like, this is textbook.
Yeah, this is.
They can see it.
Pearls, they call them pearls.
That's what they said to me too.
And do I have it?
This is amazing.
Well you can use it from pregnancy.
Oh really?
Like you can, it can be induced by certain things
like getting off the birth control pill.
I didn't know that, that's interesting.
And then it can go away.
It's really confusing.
Like might have had since I was 16.
I mean, I didn't bleed until I was 18
and they had to give me progesterone to bleed.
The doctor told me I had it like two weeks ago
and then I was so freaked out
and then I realized literally all my best friends have it.
It's so common.
Why does everyone have PCOS?
There's, our parents must have been like doing something
or something's in the water or something.
Right, it's just, it's-
It's probably like all the stress that women have carried.
Now that I know you have it, I'm like pretty excited about it.
It's like, yeah.
I think it's hell.
Yeah, I feel like it does kind of make everything bad, but I've had it my whole life so I don't
know the difference.
What does it do that's bad to you?
Like how does it affect you?
Impossible, really hard to lose weight.
It makes you insulin resistant.
So my weight's gone up and down my whole life,
like 30 pounds, up, down, up, down, up, down.
And then the no bleeding and then moods, depression.
And people will be like, oh, just exercise.
But that's also not the answer,
especially if it's high intensity,
you don't wanna do that.
Do you believe in like, what's cortisol?
Do you know what I mean?
Oh!
Yeah, so my cortisol levels, I got tested.
They were like the saliva one, four or five years ago,
because I was feeling like such insane
and intense panic and anxiety.
But what is cortisol?
Like your stress hormone.
Your stress hormone, right?
Okay. Yeah.
That was like in my head and I was like,
I don't wanna be wrong.
Yeah.
Stress hormone.
And like it's normal for it to,
it's normal for it to rise in the morning.
That helps you wake up and get through the day.
Wait, can you actually say it in a British accent?
So the stress hormone called cortisol,
actually your levels will rise in the morning.
Okay, it's so comforting.
It's easier this way.
No, so, and then I got the saliva test and it was high at, I think you test morning,
like lunch, midday and then evening.
Every day.
And mine was, you spit into a tube.
And you go like this.
I would also just deep throat it, but so they could get the good saliva. You know like the
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I once had to do this like three hour test,
but the reason I had to do it was because I had
consistent bad breath.
No, that's so sad.
Yours is the,
Was it like age priority?
Yeah, the breath.
You did the breath test.
Did someone tell you that?
My whole life.
Actually, in fact, when I first started standup,
like a lot of
male like I was 21 doing stand-up at the comedy store all these like 40 year old
men would be like your breath is bad thank God people told you though yeah
well I knew tell I sort of knew I don't even know how I knew I think maybe just
cuz everyone's telling me but since then I told you you can try so hard to get
close to me I know exactly how far I need to stay from everyone so that they don't know if my breath is what it is
Oh, you know to fix the issue. I don't know cuz I'm staying so far from everyone
Well, that's so beautiful that you overcame bad breath. That's like a nightmare diagnosis
Yeah, so I know you guys had your PCOS, but we all have funky things
Since you bled now?
Bled, it's giving me like handmaids tale.
It's actually starting to turn me off.
Well, here's what's so interesting about me
is that I went back on birth control
and now I've been bleeding almost
for like three months straight.
Do you know what I mean?
Do you know what I mean?
No, I do.
I've bled for seven months straight before
because birth control takes birth.
Can we be bled? No, straight before because it's not control. Can we be blood?
Absolutely not
Birth control shuts down your ovaries. So it's not actually it's just like a band-aid, right?
And so you're stressing her out Jenna. No, but it's how do you want to be cummed in?
Yeah, so you can get cummed in
But I'm still scared to be cummed in then, because I'm at the age where like,
if I got pregnant, I'd be like,
might as well love.
Might as well pop it out.
It's not cute anymore.
Wait, so you guys are in a close relationship now?
Yes.
And how long have you been closed?
Well, I've been seeing him fucking and sucking.
We, oh my God.
Like we would never. But you guys used to be open and now you been closed? Well, I've been seeing him fucking and sucking. Wait, oh my God. Like, we would never.
But you guys used to be open and now you're closed.
We had like a brief, yeah, phase where we played around
with it, and then sometimes we like having group.
Wait, what?
Sometimes we like having group.
What is that?
We had one group session.
Three some?
Yeah.
You did not.
Group implies like seven people, but it's not.
Yeah, I was like, oh my God.
It's crazy to call a threesome group. Group. High heart group, but it's nothing. Yeah, I was like, oh my God. It's crazy to call through some group.
Group.
High heart group, we're making merch.
Would you be open to more?
What?
Are you guys open to more?
Is that why you call a group?
Like it could be more than three?
Oh sure, I think we're open to anything.
Wait, was the third a male or female?
Wum.
Wum.
We had a wum?
Three wim.
We've done that too.
Is it fun?
It was almost like
The build-up to it was fun. That's exactly
The light up to it was fun
So the ways that we played around beforehand was fun. So electric and then it happened
First off he gave her her period while we were having a free son. You can't give it. It's not contagious
He was on his period.
And like all of a sudden she just starts bleeding everywhere.
He gave her, cause I was like fuck her.
Wait hold on, bleeding everywhere?
You shouldn't bleed everywhere if you have your period.
I think his dick punctured her stomach and then she bled out.
And then you guys left her there to die.
That's so fucked up.
Seriously, guys.
TSA.
Oh my God.
But yeah, no, we're in a closed relationship now.
I actually need the banana break
because Jenna killed a woman.
We're exclusive.
Oh!
This is the biggest banana I've ever,
it was bigger than Donna.
It's me.
Hi.
I'm the problem is me.
I can't sing.
Really?
I was trying to harmonize with you,
but I was like trying to figure out where you were going.
Really?
Elaborate.
Because you're a real entertainer.
You're a real showman.
A real showwoman.
I feel like you can sing.
I'm a dancer.
Dancer is my primary role in life.
Do you still like to dance?
I love to dance.
Do you take like class?
I go to ballet.
I, when I'm in New York, this is what,
I wish I lived in New York so bad
because my dance studio there, Broadway Dance Center,
they have everything all day. Like, please go in honor of me this is what, I wish I lived in New York so bad because my dance studio there, Broadway Dance Center, they have everything all day.
Like, please go in honor of me.
I will, you should come visit and we'll go,
I'll be so, I'm a horrible dancer.
I don't, that's crazy.
I can make you so good, by the way.
Really?
Like, there's a world.
She's gonna be at the bar while you're at the bar.
At the bar.
I was at the bar.
I am, I'm gonna be a dance mom,
so I think like that's my next pivot after Herbalist.
But I could definitely make you such a good dancer.
You should pivot out of Herbalist already.
It's another word game.
And you're already a pop singer.
I need to train you.
Thank you.
Yes, wait, let's do a montage.
Okay?
We need a documentary.
Yes, seems so ready.
Whipping me into shape.
Wait, that's so cool.
Okay, so you take, so did you ever live in New York
or were you always in LA? No, I've never lived there, but I'm one of Wait, that's so cool. Okay, so you take, so did you ever live in New York or were you always in LA?
No, I've never lived there,
but I'm one of those people that likes to pretend.
Like I was there for two months.
You would thrive there.
Yeah, I loved like, I love walking the city.
I was very basic about it.
Like I'm like the energy.
That's the whole point.
But that's real, that's what it is.
I can't believe like that's your life.
That's so special.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, I know, I like it. We, kids. But can't believe that's your life. That's so special. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, I know.
I like it.
We, kids.
But everyone wants what they don't have.
You don't know, true.
Sorry, I'm gonna take this really quick.
Yeah, no, go ahead.
Huge laugh.
Hello?
Are you gonna answer?
Do you think you want kids?
Does your boyfriend want kids?
Yeah, he's dying for it.
Whoa.
Isn't that cute?
Really obsessed.
Wait, so what's your boyfriend like?
He's so lovely and gentle and caring.
They live in different states though.
Wait, what?
So it's really easy to love them
when they live in a different state.
Well, we've lived together and he lived in the same state
for 11 of the years.
And now he lives in Spokane, Washington.
And I'm not moving there because it's Spokane, Washington.
Wait, that was the most misleading shit ever.
You lived in the same state, but not the same city.
Yeah, but we didn't live in the same city.
Okay.
So they've been long distance.
And we had two years where we lived in the same household.
Household.
Like.
It was Handmaid's Tale.
She is.
When did you last, when have you lost blood?
Wait, so last year we lived together in the same place.
I'm telling you, I'm holding your hand, but I'm not.
He was a professional soccer player, now he's a coach for a professional team.
I start jerking off.
That's so hard.
Please do.
Now he's a coach in Spokane.
We're in Chequup.
Yeah, totally. You guys love group.
So how did you see him at so hard?
Well, the Spokane thing started in February. So even when we didn't live in the same city,
we were still seeing each other like every week.
He would do the work, obviously.
But now that the work is up to me to go there,
it's a bit harder.
So sometimes we see each other every six weeks.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it's tough.
But you're like, this is my person for life.
Yeah, I think that's what's hard right now
is that like, he obviously feels the same.
And he really wants children and he really wants to be
in like a home and a space with me, but.
But you're in LA.
I'm in LA and I'm very inflexible as my,
our couples therapist.
She was like, are you willing to maybe,
and he's like, I already asked her.
That would be funny though, if he had never asked you.
You just was like scared to ask.
That would be very awkward.
He's just a good boy.
He always says he's a well-trained puppy
and that's how you need them.
Oh my God, interesting.
Do y'all hang out all together?
I barely know her boyfriend
because he lives in a different state.
Even though she's trying to pretend.
And also because Esther won't come anywhere.
Like you have to go to her.
I don't leave my square.
So my other friends, they've hung out with him.
Your other friend.
No, he's a great guy.
I like him a lot.
He's-
Are you just a real home buddy?
Yeah.
Were you before baby?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
What do you guys like to do?
That's so funny.
I'm trying to get like a hobby or something.
Oh, I love to knit.
Are you kidding?
I'm literally in the biggest pursuit.
So she has hobbies.
I have no hobbies or interests.
And that's like my whole problem in life.
And that's why I have,
I think that's a big part of depression.
You know, like you need like a peaceful thing.
And what's so hard about what we do is like,
we're doing what we love, but then it becomes your job.
And it's like, because we focus so much time on this,
we have no hobbies.
Okay, well I have no career though,
so I also have depression.
What are your hobbies?
I love to knit.
Beautiful, I tried that, not for me.
I love to rollerblade, not crochet.
That I could love.
And also not roller skate.
Understood.
No one would have thought that though.
Many people think I'm talking about roller skating.
People love, have you been on the internet
in the last two years?
No, I haven't.
People are, maybe you can hear me now.
People really are so obsessed with roller skates.
Why do you love for Ishaq's sense?
It's insane.
She just made that up today.
Wait, okay, so I knit, I do photography,
film photography.
Can you imagine this many hobbies?
You're such a full life.
I mean.
Wait, what if you.
I take care of my friends.
That's a huge hobby.
Do you need a lot of care?
A little care.
I love care.
I love care.
I'm so sorry.
What's the difference between roller skating
and rollerblading?
Roller skates have the four wheels
and it's like a lot of people going, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Rollerblading is like. I think rollerblading is like, shee.
I think rollerblading is much easier.
Okay.
My mind's blown, they're the same ski thing though.
It's just four or one line.
Roller skates have the four wheels.
You know people who do tricks and inline skating,
you remember the old movie Brink?
Yes, of course.
Line, it's a line.
Where do you do it?
Some of the skate parks that I won't mention
so that people won't find me there.
Wow.
And also I used to go to Venice Beach all the time,
rollerblade.
In Chicago I used to rollerblade like 17 miles,
like to get to wherever I needed to go.
That's why you have PCOS.
Probably.
That's why you have high testosterone.
Probably.
It's too many miles.
Too strong.
Well now I can't rollerblade here because there's no way.
Too bumpy?
There's too many hills.
Yeah.
We need like a-
We can't do anything here.
I have to go to the skate park.
I feel like I would only rollerblade if it was like a private, like no one else could
see.
Yeah.
No one else could see.
Yeah.
I do want to get better.
Like I want to be able to do more tricks at the skate park, but yeah.
Wait, what are some hobbies that Kat Cohen could like see herself doing?
Well, here's the, I do have things that I do like cooking.
Oh, see I don't like cooking.
I like cooking.
I love cooking, but I don't have a proper kitchen
really in my apartment, so I cook like
when I'm home for the holidays,
like special occasions.
Do you have a hot plate?
No.
What's not proper about your kitchen?
Like there's no counter.
Do you ever cook though in your apartment?
Like do you have a go-to dinner?
I'll host, I'll like host like Shabbat dinner sometimes,
which is really fun.
And I make a really good Bolognese.
Oh.
Marcela Hazan.
You know her?
No.
It's an amazing classic, classic recipe.
I can't recommend it enough.
Actually, if you like cooking.
Okay.
It's the best because you chop it up in the morning
and then you let it sit on the stove for like eight hours
and it's the best taste of your life.
Do you eat meat?
Yeah, of course.
Eight hours?
Is it so across the heart?
No, it's a regular probably.
You just let it simmer on like a low heat
and then it tastes like the most divine.
Let it out.
Let it breathe.
I like painting.
Okay.
But, maybe it's just that I don't do the things
I know are good for me.
Do you struggle with that?
Anyone?
Yeah, like what would that be?
Of course, like exercise.
This is my thing with, so I love dance, right?
I love ballet, but like if you find me waking up
Monday morning in classes at 10, I'm like,
ugh, I'll do anything not to go.
But then like you go and you love it.
What is that? It's so fucked up. I'm like that not to go. But then you go and you love it. What is that?
It's so fucked up.
I'm like that with shows too.
It's like any gig I'm like,
do you think you don't want to pay $10 billion
not to do this right now?
I was just talking about this with Taylor Tomlinson
and it was like, we're both like.
Does she feel that way?
Yes.
She's a machine.
Hours before the show we're like, I'll do anything.
Please, no.
That's so comforting.
Do you think it has to do with that though?
You don't want it to be bad
or there's like a vulnerability?
I don't know what it is.
No, I actually, my only theory is that it's like
this animalistic thing of like the fear,
like if it was like olden times
and you had to stand in front of a crowd,
like they might hate you and kill you.
Like that's the only thing I can think of.
I feel like if anything, when I'm more nervous,
it's cause I'm like excited.
It's when I feel like nothing and I'm like,
what am I doing?
Oh, okay.
That makes sense.
I don't know.
I haven't performed in a while
because I finished my tour.
I have to start fresh.
What you're saying, if you feel nothing,
that's when you don't want to do it.
Yeah, same.
Cause it's hard to turn it on.
Yeah.
Because you know.
Nerves are good.
There's no dopamine.
Nerves make it better. So and so in the crowd, like that will like hype you up and you're like, I are good. Yeah. Yeah. There's no dopamine. Nerves make it better.
If someone says in the crowd, that will hype you up,
and you're like, I'm going to kill it.
Yeah.
But if it's just like, if you're in Phoenix, shout out.
Actually, I had fun there.
Shout out to the amazing people of Phoenix.
But I'll have it be like, invite her back.
So the last time I was touring, I
was just doing one-nighters, whatever.
And then this past weekend like just getting back into it
I did a weekend at a comedy club and the difference between
Two a night versus one a night is like a big
Like that's really hard actually and I know it's not hard whatever but like getting the energy to do a second show
I'm like, I cannot do the same thing. It's got to, so I ended up, I realized like,
are you okay?
Was that my stomach or was that an airplane?
I don't know.
I don't know what that was.
Was it an airplane?
I think it was an airplane.
I was like absorbed like, I don't know, something.
My pelvic floor, physical therapist told me
that if you hear stomach bubbles,
it means you're in rest and digest.
So it's actually a good sign.
Oh, cute.
Yeah, it's like, so if you hear that, like on a date or something, it means you're in rest and digest. So it's actually a good sign. Oh, cute. Yeah, it's like, so if you hear that, like on a date
or something, it means you're really comfortable and happy.
It's not embarrassing.
If your stomach isn't bubbling during a date, run.
Because he's not good for you.
Is pelvic floor, is that like post-pregnancy thing?
Yeah, yeah.
What happens?
Did you give birth?
I did.
I guess I mean like we're C-section.
Yeah.
That's amazing. So I I mean like we're C-section. Yeah.
That's amazing.
So I thought that like I was fine
because I figured like if you give birth,
it is a plane or it's your stomach in the air.
Like I thought, okay, either like your vagina
like falls out or you're fine.
And I didn't know that there's the opposite effect,
which is like your pelvic floor gets hypertonic
and it's like becomes overactive
and that's what I am experiencing.
So it's like.
I didn't know that.
No, I know.
And it sounds like I'm like bragging
and like I have a tight pussy, but it's not,
it's not that.
It is and that's okay.
No, like you can't even have sex
because it's so like, it's just.
Oh my God, that's horrible.
Instead of falling out went.
Exactly. Wow, it contracted. It's so it's so like, it's just so horrible. Instead of falling out went.
Exactly.
Wow, it contracted.
It's so, but it like causes all these problems
that you wouldn't think and it like mimics like,
it can.
No, that makes sense.
This is connected to everything.
Yeah, it's really like actually fucking up my life,
but I'm working on it and I basically have to like
take deep breaths and relax my pelvic floor.
Like, by the way, before I gave birth, I did not not feel I couldn't feel my pelvic floor. Do you feel yours?
It's like things so it was like nothing before I mean I can know where it is if I
Where is that?
Kegels you mean I think yeah, but even when I tried that before, I would never feel that.
I can feel it right now.
No, I could never have felt that before.
Wait, so is that very common after?
I don't know, because I've never had heard of it.
I literally was like, my pussy's fine,
and then I was like, it's not.
Oh, that's so annoying.
It's sleep up pussy.
Yeah, it's too nasty of me.
Yeah, we're good girls.
Joking.
Good girls. I'm so jealous of your connection Yeah, we're good girls. Joking. Good girls.
I'm so jealous of your connection to Dona, your dog.
So jealous your dog likes you.
Look how beautiful and good she is.
It's wild.
It's wild.
I have a question.
Yeah.
It's so random that you were born and raised in Texas.
I know.
I have to say that.
It is so random.
Where are you from?
Vermont.
Am I allowed to eat this?
Yeah. I actually can eat a snack. You've already eaten that. Where are you from? Vermont. Am I allowed to eat this? Yeah.
I actually can eat a snack.
You've already eaten so many bananas today.
Why?
Oh.
Why?
I'm just like curious, are you in touch with Southern-ness?
Are you like religion?
Yeah, well basically growing up in Texas.
Yeah, I mean my mom is from there,
so her family is very, and my grandma's very Catholic.
She's a really thick Texas accent.
My dad's a Jew from New Jersey,
so I was always straddling the line.
And then I always knew I wanted to move to New York
and get out, because I was a theater girl.
Wait, so that's crazy.
You have this super Texan grandmother and mother.
Mammal. Oh my mother. Mammal.
Oh my God.
Mammal, Mammal's beer cheese.
Yes.
I have a Mammal.
Oh my God.
And they're all there down there.
Did she talk like that too?
Does your mom have an accent?
She's like, okay darling, checking in on you,
just know she won't talk to you
because I haven't heard your voice in a while.
She's so sweet.
Were you raised Jewish?
No, I was raised Catholic.
I was confirmed Catholic.
Did you know other Jewish people?
Not really.
There was two Jewish families we knew.
But you're Jewish now.
Now everyone I know is Jewish,
and my boyfriend's Jewish.
Did you have Jewish culture at all?
No, I didn't know a single thing.
And now my middle brother has fully converted to Judaism.
He's addicted to it.
He's obsessed. Clinically addicted. He's addicted to it. He's obsessed.
He's clinically addicted.
And he knows all the things now.
Do you have a sister?
No. Two brothers.
Two little brothers.
And you do Shabbat dinner sometimes.
Yeah, I love it.
So I'm leaning into the Jewish side of myself.
Wow.
I feel much more connected to that than the Christian stuff.
Do you guys have siblings?
I have an older half sister.
She's eight years older.
So legally I am kind of an only child.
You're an only child.
Yeah, you actually have same thing.
She has an older brother who's eight years older.
Even though I'm not only child.
Yeah.
You don't feel like an only child.
No, I mean, was she in the house with you?
She was up until like high school
and then I got her room.
Her room was absorbed by me.
Oh. Yeah.
Okay.
But I read that like if there's a six year age gap
that you kind of, it starts over
and it's like being raised alone.
That's really interesting.
I felt like he was always there.
Yeah, but it's like you didn't, you don't realize this
but it's like you didn't have like a sibling
that was like your peer, your age.
I was the one he bullied.
I was constant.
No, it was fine.
I thought it was fun.
What is your age difference with your siblings?
We're all two and a half years apart,
so we're all very close.
Oh, that's nice.
And my middle brother and I, we went to high school
and college together, and we had all the same friends.
And he's an actor as well.
That is so nice.
So we're super, yeah. And this is really cute. There was That is so nice. So we're like super, yeah.
And you know, this is really cute.
There was like a two year period
where we all lived in the same building in New York.
Isn't that the best thing you've ever heard?
Isn't that a dream?
They both left me, they both left me.
I'm still there.
Wait, that is such a dream.
So you mean to tell me, hold on.
This is like friends.
You mean to tell me that you could go down the hall
or up the stairs, down the stairs,
and be at their place.
One is right next door and then one was right below me.
Like, hey, can I have some ketchup?
Like that was my little brother.
This is a dream.
Are you like responsible older sibling?
No, look at her.
Cause you don't give that up.
I'm just kidding.
No, I think being the only girl makes you like immune.
Yeah.
Immune for being responsible.
I'm like, la la la la la la.
Like family princess.
Look at her, she's a Spice Girl.
Oh my god, y'all are sweet.
Y'all are sweet to me.
Y'all.
Are people not sweet to you?
Of course.
You're so nice.
I know, people are monstrous.
Have you been out there?
You're nice, you're funny.
Yeah, thank you.
We have one of my brothers moved in with his girlfriend,
the other one moved to San Francisco,
so now it's just me in the building.
Wow.
And you live with your boyfriend?
He's so cutie patootie.
He just moved in, actually.
We waited along, saving ourselves for marriage.
We lived together like during COVID
and then I was like, just move in.
And he was like, no, I think we should like try and like,
I'm so glad he did, but he was like,
let's like go back to before life and see and then we can like make the choice together. Why are you glad he did, but he was like, let's go back to before life and see
and then we can make the choice together.
Why are you glad he did that?
Because, not to absolutely drag him,
but because he's from the city,
when we met, he was living with his parents.
And he was like, I need to go do my own thing.
I was like, respect.
Like you said.
What?
The judgment in your face was so good. Yeah, because it's like, okay. Like Asher said. What? The judgment in your face was so good.
Yeah, because it's like, okay, it's humiliating.
It's appropriate.
It's appropriate.
So he wanted to live on his own,
do his thing before we moved in together.
Good.
Now he's in my house all the time.
And how is that for you?
Well, I just want a bigger house is all.
But he's so cute and sweet.
Aw.
But you know when you go through phases,
like right now I'm in a phase where I really am obsessed obsessed and then you go to a phase where you're like,
whatever.
Absolutely.
That is so natural and like the longer you're together,
the more times it happens,
but that's also kind of what's nice because you have those
old times that had happened and you realize like,
oh, but this was my person because I didn't leave.
Yeah.
Because that's happened with other people I've been with
and I'm like, yeah, I'm good.
Totally. But with him, I'm just like like it's just a little wave of... Wait so
when y'all were open what were the rules? This is why we're not open anymore.
Were you falling in love? There were no rules. I was... no no no no. You didn't fall for anyone else? I did I thought you said was I falling in
love. Yeah fall like fall for other people but but I wasn't in love with anyone else.
I was also, I think that I really knew
how to do the open relationship,
but it was on both of us
that we didn't really make the rules very clear.
I was just like, well, it's very obvious.
I was super transparent with people.
Esther was with me one time when I picked a guy up.
That's so fun.
Wait, which guy?
Apple Store.
Apple Store? Are you kidding me? Oh, which guy? Apple Store. Apple Store?
Are you kidding me?
Oh my God.
What happened to the Apple Store?
Oh my God.
Bitch, what didn't happen to the Apple Store?
Oh my God, I forgot about Apple Store.
That was like, remember I was trying to get the discount too
for me?
Yeah.
Do you remember, I was like, can I please get it too?
Yeah.
Wait, what happened?
Okay, so my-
Did you guys like fuck in an alley or something?
You know, there's lots of things I did.
Wait, so, but mainly we just fuck in my car.
I would go there for his like 15 minute break
and be like, let's fuck.
That's right, I was right, I thought I was making that up.
That is amazing.
I would be like, let's get this done
and not go back to work.
It was the perfect...
In the car, I would struggle with that.
I would as well.
Like laying. Look how short I am.
There's no laying, I just get on top and then leave.
That's really hot.
No, car sex is so unacceptable.
It was great for me.
Get it in, come, leave.
Ew.
And I need to be like.
I need to lay there.
Yeah, I need to be in the least sexy position
of all time to come.
I need to be like.
Ah, you flounder.
Your eyes.
None of it's sexy, ah, you fly. Like, he's like.
None of it's sexy, it's just fun.
But for me, it was like, I was always transparent, right?
So I felt that I had like really good relationships
versus where his open relationship ideas was like,
kind of just shit that he fell into.
Because it was there and it was like easy for him
versus I was trying to find someone who was like.
You were targeting like a purely sexual experience.
Yes, and dudes who were good, right?
So I didn't have to lie.
They weren't playing any games.
I always said like, he's my primary.
There's no intention of me not being with him.
We've been together for a long, I love him.
We have a future together.
And it attracted men who were secure in themselves.
So you targeted men who were secure in themselves
to be like, that's fine that I'm not your main.
And I'm also not trying to play a game with you.
But it's also way easier as a woman to find men
who are down to fuck with no strings attached
than being a guy.
But it was also not no strings attached.
He communicated, like there was also a relationship
that needed like honesty and transparency.
And then when we went, I was still seeing him
when we decided to get closed again,
get whatever it's called was exclusive.
And I just called him and was like,
hey, out of respect to my partner,
I just wanna let you know,
I don't feel it's appropriate for me to wait
another week to tell you.
And he was like, he was also then open about how he felt,
like I'm really sad, but I totally respect that.
And like, you've been so wonderful.
And I-
With the Apple Store guy?
Yeah.
And he was like, and I do think that you guys should-
You're so evolved.
He was, he was wonderful.
But also- He was cute, I wanna see a picture.
Look at it on the screen.
We're gonna put it in the episode description.
A photo of this guy.
And give a little discount.
God, that's so fun.
But it's also, that was to answer your question.
That's the way to do it.
You have to be honest and transparent.
It doesn't mean that no one gets jealous.
It doesn't mean that shit does.
It's just like, you have to do it right.
But dudes don't know how to do it right.
So that shit's done.
It's crazy. It's beautiful. How you have to do it right. But dudes don't know how to do it right, so that shit's done. It's crazy.
It's beautiful.
How did you guys do it?
Tell me.
We didn't really do it.
I did it actually, well, this is funny.
My ex-boyfriend and I were fully open,
and that's when I met Brian, my current boyfriend.
I was like, okay.
So then I broke up with the one I was with.
It's like a failed adoption.
It really was. Well then I tried to jump right into it, with. It's like a failed adoption. It really was.
Well then I tried to jump right into it
and then actually Brian ended up,
I ended my relationship for Brian.
He ends up breaking up with me.
What?
And then I'm actually single.
And then we ended up reconnecting like months later.
Okay.
You know, I always think my mom and dad, they broke up.
Did they?
And then they got back together.
So I always like to share that.
When did they get back together?
They, I think what happened was,
my mom said, I am only looking for like marriage, right?
So if I'm, we're not gonna get married.
And then my dad was like, okay, I'm not,
I don't wanna get married.
And so they broke up.
And then like, I think months later,
my mom was just like called to check in on him.
And literally that day
he was like come over and that, this is so funny,
that night they conceived me.
No way.
Because I guess my mom was like,
you're never gonna like commit to me
so I don't wanna do this and he was like I will.
He said come over, let me put it in you.
Oh, let me give you a baby.
And that's how I'm a miracle.
You are a miracle.
Thank you.
What are your parents like?
Ask Jenna.
Oh, he's so cute.
Oh, I'm so good.
I'm so impressed you had a visual.
He's so cute.
Wait, let me see Apple Store.
Oh my God.
Remember Jenna when we got hit on at Target?
Looks like he has a fucking girlfriend.
What an asshole.
Yeah. Remember when we got hit on at Target?
By who?
Wait, who?
That binky though?
Yeah.
Jenna was wearing a binky around her neck.
I was sucking on it.
It was like a phase I went through where I was like,
yeah, I'm gonna have a pacifier.
And this guy was like, he was like,
can I get your eye message?
He was like, yo, can I get your eye message, bro?
Can I get your eye message?
Can I get your eye message?
That's wild.
I loved it. And cause he saw me and he was like, that binky though, girl. Yeah, for real. And I was like, mm- can I get your eye message? Can I get your eye message? Can I get your eye message? That's wild. I loved it.
And cause he saw me and he was like that binky though, girl.
Yeah, for real.
And I was like, mm-hmm, that's amazing.
That one didn't go anywhere though.
Yeah, no, that one didn't go anywhere.
He was also, I say we got hit on
he was only hitting on Jenna.
I've never actually been hit on,
but if I were to be hit on, it would be at Target.
Do you get hit on?
Like, could you, have it-
No, I was gonna ask you.
She's cheating.
Jonah says you do get hit on and you're worthy of love.
She's barking in her dream.
So I was just talking about this with someone like
in 10 years of doing standup,
I think there's been, I would say two guys
who've ever approached me after a show in 10 years.
I think I'm at zero.
Really? Yeah.
I mean, it's the approacher.
Did it go anywhere?
No, they both were like,
obviously had horrible tastes and are freaks.
I just remembered that you have done the Fringe Festival
in Edinburgh. Yeah.
We did the stage manager there in 2018.
Oh my God.
I mean, no, when I was 18.
2006.
When I was 18.
Honey, what's the difference? Wait, when did you go? I went there with my high school, but I was 18. When I was 18. When I was 18. What's the, honey, what's the difference?
Wait, when did you go?
I went there with my high school.
But I have this, I've talked about this on the show before,
but I have this core memory of like,
I was in a play where I was wearing a blonde wig.
And after the play, we were talking to these cute guys
and he was like, who is that girl, the blonde girl?
And I was like, it was my moment.
I was like, it was me.
Oh my God.
And he was like, oh, you look really different.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh my God.
No.
That's so funny.
And that's how I learned to hate blonde women.
Tell how my origin story is.
It comes naturally to me.
Esther, you and I were at the French Fest at the same time.
I know, that's like our origin.
That's crazy, that's our origin story.
And you didn't know?
No, but our mom.
So how did you all meet in college?
Literally, her mom went to my mom's yard sale
That's so sweet. They didn't know each other. It just happened and then I think your mom was like, hold on my daughter
Hold on, it's my daughter. She's she's in she's in Scotland
And then my mom was like my daughter's in Scotland. No way and then they found out that we were going the same college
That's crazy. I know that's why it's like that's really the universe
We can never not be friends because of that.
Every stage we were going to know each other.
Like she knows my group of friends now, college.
Also, this is my favorite fact.
She went to kindergarten and first grade with me.
That's crazy.
With my best friends in second grade,
but they, she doesn't like you.
She doesn't like me. She doesn't like me.
She doesn't like you.
She has beef.
My best friend's in second grade.
My second best friend?
No, my first best friend.
What's the beef?
She has beef with Jenna from kindergarten.
Like that's how women.
You don't know why there's tension?
No.
Yeah, I can't.
From kindergarten, mind you.
Come on.
Like how cool is my best friend
that she has kindergarten drama?
I think there were people who were intimidated by me when I was younger.
She was, Christina's intimidated by no one.
Ask her why she didn't like me then.
I would ask her now, but she's in labor.
You really should call her right now.
Do you feel like all your friends are having babies?
No, I don't.
But no, not really.
Because you're kind of trendsetter.
You think?
Yeah.
No, I feel like I copied others. You're not the first to do overdo it. No, there was. Because you're kind of trendsetter. You think? Yeah. No, I feel like I copied others.
You're not the first to do it.
There was no one before you.
Do you?
Wait, but do you feel like you'll do it?
I feel like there's so much work stuff I want to do first.
Yeah.
I need like, I just feel like I'm,
I feel like I just was a teen.
How did you freeze your eggs though?
Like I'm not bleeding, so I'm afraid that I'm never
going to be able to freeze my eggs.
But you don't have to.
Yeah, you don't have to.
You just go and retrieve.
I just, it was, it's actually when you have PCOS you.
You get more eggs, right?
Yeah, you have a ton of you have a bunch of follicles.
So I had so many eggs.
This happened to Kate Berlant too.
She had like a thousand eggs.
Wait, so I can freeze my eggs.
Yeah, you can do it.
You just do the little injections and then they,
you swell up and they suck them out.
But I thought that your eggs don't mature.
Is that like, no?
Will someone pay for my egg retrieval?
I know.
I'm looking at all y'all.
My parents split it with me.
Isn't that crazy?
That is so nice.
I was like, don't you want grandchildren?
My mom was like, don't have kids, it's so much.
My dad, that's what's crazy.
My dad was literally like, don't have a kid.
I'm like, I'm his only kid and he's an only kid.
I'm like, you want it to just stop.
Don't have a kid?
Yeah, he was like, he's always, he's like, it's a prison.
Dude, my dad too, he's like,
Miha, you know I love you,
but when you have kids, it's just your whole life.
I'm like. Wow.
Okay.
Do they love your baby now?
Me gesturing to the donut.
I'm like, I feel like, yeah.
My mom does.
My dad, I think he's like, is trying to figure out
how to be a grandfather.
Really?
He's like, I'm too young to be a grandfather.
I'm like, you're 81.
Let's like figure this out.
Classic.
Do your siblings have kids?
No, they're so, well, in my mind, I'm like,
we're all 19,
but no, I guess they're in their 20s.
But I love that mindset.
I think it's good to stay that mindset.
We gotta stay young.
Yeah, we gotta keep ourselves young, girls.
Yeah, no they don't.
That's such a basic, like that's such a first step
into getting old, it's like nothing.
Grow up.
Call me when your pelvic floor hurts.
What are y'all doing tonight?
I'm gonna make a turkey burger from scratch.
That's so beautiful.
That sounds amazing.
I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Hang out with Ace, put her to sleep.
Who's with her now?
She's alone.
Oh no, don't let her.
She's under that pillow.
She's with her helper.
Thank you, next.
We didn't even scratch the surface.
I know. Yeah, next time. Okay, Kat, yes, please come back. Thank you. Didn't even scratch the surface. I know
Okay, cat yes, please come back. Thank you for having me. Um sluggies. Thank you so much for listening I feel like we could talk forever. No, I have to Alaska
Cat where do people where do we where do we see you? Um, you're special, please
You can watch my new special on Veebs.com. We also have a special on Netflix. My first special on Netflix.
That's amazing.
Thank you.
What's it called?
It's called The Twist, She's Gorgeous.
The new special's on Veep.com and it's called Come For Me.
The album is streaming on Friday.
Yeah, thank you.
Yay, Kat Cohen, we love you.
Love you guys.
I'm Kat Cohen.
Thank you all for having me.
I feel like we're cousins.
I know, I'm like, I wanna come over. It's cousins time. All right, bye guys, Love you guys. I'm Kat Cohen. Thank you all for having me. I feel like we're cousins. I know.
I'm like, I wanna come over.
It's cousins time.
All right, bye guys.
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with a brand new episode. Bye.
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