Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Hexed by RUDY JULES

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Now I can't unseer I don't even have anything to say Because it's like listen You're not wrong But it sucks And it's sad And you can't say that with the utmost peace in love If it was with the utmost peace and love, you wouldn't have said it.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Hi, Slugs. I'm on tour and I am about to be in Seattle, Olympia, Washington, Denver, Colorado, and I'll be in NYC, Philly, and Boston. All of those are coming up in October, November. You can get tickets at the link below or pretty little babytour.com. Hi, Slugs. We just recorded a Patreon, all of us, Jules Jenna and Coco and I. And if you want to check it out you could go to the patreon we actually covered a lot of like dating jules has some dating stuff going on if you want to find out jules a secret crush oh sign up for our patreon help her in her um dilemma with this boy i had to face humiliation also and i handled it you can check out the patreon and shout out to our golden slug brandon my mom is here and my grandma's sister is here so don't be crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Well, okay. You should have not invited me then. Jenna's already crashing out. Explain why you're crashing out again. Again? Well, don't mind if I do. Well, one, because my breakfast sandwich fell on the car of my, the floor of my car. That I woke up an hour early to make.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Oh, that's so horrible. Early to make it. I pan toasted my bread. egg sandwich avomash everything chicken sausage and it slid onto the floor of my car you wouldn't eat it like that on the carpet it went back and forth back and forth with my water bottle over it you would eat it no you wouldn't no but you would i think i wouldn't and then i'm also very angry because i i'm always the only one who dresses up out of everyone you're laughing because you know it's true you know it's true And then today, the one day that it's easy to just wear black, all witches wear black, Esther's like, you're not dressing up, Jenna.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But you didn't dress up today. Do you even own any black? No, I don't. I don't think you do. I don't. It's just pastel, right? How is that even possible? For auditions, I don't wear black.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I have an audition closet, but it's just like blue clothes and jeans. I bet you would look good in black. No, I don't. Why don't you have it? Because it doesn't make me happy when I look down at it. That's a really good way to live, though. It's like you should wear colors that only make you happy. Like when I look down, I like to be like, ooh, yay.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I remember when I was little, someone asked what my favorite color was, and I said black, and they were like, well, that's not really a color. And it was sad. This is very telling. Is it? When I was younger, I used to tell people my favorite color was rainbow and metallic silver. And I would get the same response. We both have, like, dramatic answers to get attention.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And everyone's like, that's not a color. Green. I did like blue for. for a very long time. What's your guys favorite color? Green? Green?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah, green. Oh. It's not the color that looks best on me, but it's the color that elicits joy. And she likes particularly like that bright green.
Starting point is 00:04:56 All greens. I love all greens. I do love that like bright green. Yeah. Like when you mix different shades of greens. What's your favorite color? I like brown. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:07 That's a very jewel's answer for some reason. Yeah, brown is nice. It's like, can. It's a tan, like chocolate, like what variety. We're not talking about dick colors, Jules. I like Dick Brown.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I like shit brown. I like any brown. Dick Brown. Shit brown. All browns. Okay. Oh, wait, we're not supposed to be. Yeah, my grandma's sister is here.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Welcome to our spooky season episode, and today we are witches. Yeah, only today. Not every time, like all the comments say. Well, I'm a witch every day That's why I dressed as me You've said it 400 times To the point where it's losing value It never had value
Starting point is 00:05:51 It's losing meaning Forgive me if I undo this corset In the next two minutes Because I can't breathe I can't breathe Well that's the point of the corset It's to slowly kill you Oh that is true
Starting point is 00:06:03 Does it really reshape your ribs Over time I don't know but if it does I think that's really sickening I think so too Especially like those really tight like fahas that girls wear and immediately after it does we know judgment to like anyone who wants to like snap back immediately after um having a baby but those really really tight fahs that like
Starting point is 00:06:22 just shove everything inside like that can't be good for the pelvic floor why can't we have judgment for that i have judgment against that also because i feel like the people who created it years ago were just men i don't think it was women being like i want my waist to be this small it was men being like, I need your waist to be this small. I don't know if I agree with that. I think I'm seeing it more from like a medical standpoint. Like I can't imagine it being good for your pelvic floor to crunch everything immediately. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Push everything down. But intestines moving around would be my first fear. Exactly. Like, because that's actually trendy. Like waist trainers are like on Instagram being sold and I'm not buying it. I mean, it's that scene from Titanic. Yeah. Right? Where she just gets getting pulled in more and more by the mom.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Also, oxygen. It would make me so anxious if I couldn't like... Expand. If you couldn't let that belly out. Yeah. Yeah. Same girl. Are we going to jump right into topics? Because like I'm falling in the mouth. Sure, I guess because I'm asleep. Yeah. What's wrong with you? Because you didn't have your breakfast?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah, I didn't have my breakfast. That is horrible. Do you always have like a big breakfast at that? Yeah. Jules just stopped eating you guys. No. going on with her that's not true you never really ate like or you went through phases where you're like oh I had mucha and she binges so she binges in secret and then she restricts and then she just slings back
Starting point is 00:07:51 the other way it's kind of the age for that yeah don't let it last too long okay like give it maybe another eight more months and you got to start eating again okay yeah what are you trying to like starve and then you get too hungry and you eat too much I don't have appetite so I'm just like depression And then when I'm hungry, I, like, binge, binge, binge, and it's so bad. One thing I would say is that when the pendulum is all the way over here of starving, it's always going to swing back over here to needing to overeat. So if there's any way you could eat a little bit, even though you're not hungry, then you won't binge later. It's just binging always leads to restriction and restriction always leads to binging and it will never ever stop. I did that in college for a while because all I did was it was like my first time experiencing eating while being stressed or like eating because I was stressed and I would be in the library just like living at the cafe and realizing that living off of like muffins and just shit trash food was bad and so then I started getting to the mentality of like I can't eat that because that's bad for me and then it just leads to.
Starting point is 00:09:01 No. There are no bad foods. There are no bad foods. I eat whatever I want. Your mom is like, every day. There are. My mom has ruined my confidence this week. She told me that I have a rash on my face and I need to see a dermatologist.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Like, I'm like depressed from two days with her. She told me when we're going through my jeans. She's laughing and shaking her head. Your jeans? My jeans. Yeah. She's like, I'm like, okay, save these. She's like, do you really think you're ever going to be this skinny again?
Starting point is 00:09:30 How dare you? Look at her face. She's like, yeah, and? People think she's so innocent. Wait, also, I have a viral video. The spoons. You know that I, I got to show you a TikTok I made about the spoons. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:42 But it's like ebb related. Because it's viral. I was like, I'm going to jump on the spoons trend. We told my dad that it had a million, two million views on TikTok, and he's like, why would anyone watch that? Our people are so lonely out there. Meanwhile, he's getting absolutely rinsed. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:00 The comments are attacking. He's lacking him. They're like literally blaming him for all oppression. It's so bad. They're like, this is why I would never marry a man. I mean, this is a cautionary tale. It's wild. So funny. And I wanted to defend him and be like, guys, he's 82, but that's such a full lie for me because he was like this forever. Right. Like he was 42. He's always been. But I also partially blame my mom because she makes people, you know, useless. She renders them useless. I want her to come over to my house and render me useless. You would never be capable of that because you're like her. You don't sit still and you do, dude. Do you sit still, Jules?
Starting point is 00:10:41 I love to sit still. Yeah, look at her. She's not even alive right now. She's of my ilk. Like, she's of my blood in this way. We are, like, natural bed rotters. Why are we like that? And Jenna and my mom and my grandma's sister who's also here, they never sit. They just work, work, work always.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I think it's more like just your, your constitution like what you're born with like some people are naturally energetic they need less sleep i'm not energetic and i need more sleep more sleep but i still be you need to go take a nap and come back yeah but i still be standing up if i'm in my house i'm there's always something to clean something to fold something to fix like last night i was facetiming with r at like midnight he's like okay you said at 1030 you needed to go to bed so let's get in bed i get in bed i start fixing my lamp He's like, are you handywomening right now? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Go to bed. I'm like, oh, but my lamp has this thing that I need to fix on it. It's like I... What is the feeling you have in your body if you sit still? Well, I also do like to sit still. It's just when I'm in my home, it doesn't happen because I feel like there are always things to do. Yeah. So, but if I, like, go to Alyssa's house, I will sit.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Or Esther's house, I like sit on the couch. Except the Esther's house, there are things to do because she gives me orders. Well, then that's why she's why she's. She can't just sit around. You're giving her a list. She literally, she like, she's chomping at the bit when she walks in. Remember that one time I said you weren't allowed to come upstairs until you took the vacuum on your hands? I took it, you mean until I fixed it?
Starting point is 00:12:12 You have to fix the vacuum. You needed me to fix it. She's like, my vacuum doesn't work. It's showing this code that there's something happening. And you can't come in the house until you fix it. I did it. I did get a bit excited. And then she's literally like a little kid.
Starting point is 00:12:23 She's so excited about to do a scavenger hunt. She's so happy. I do like to also sit and not like if I go to Alyssa's house I sit on her couch and I just Oh good so you do know how to chill out See my mom can't even do that My mom can't
Starting point is 00:12:36 Sit and relax Like even on a plane Where you have to be fastened to a seat And like you cannot get up You know because of the fasten seat belt sign You see her like internally moving Like you can just see her like Fidgeting or trying to do something
Starting point is 00:12:55 Or licking her lips excessive because she cannot just sit still. My mom is like that too and I'm like, mom, did you ever? And maybe I get it from her, but then over time I think I learned to relax. But I've asked my mom like, do you ever like stop talking or stop doing things? And she's like, never stop talking or like just stop. Women love to be asked that. But just anything like stop talking, stop thinking, stop folding, stop doing.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And she's like, no, I don't like to. And I'm like, well, but why? We don't have time for this. Okay. So she's like your mom and that she cannot sit still. Well, she cannot confront the feeling or the thoughts that are in her head and her body when there's silence, I think. I just flew with my mom and I was like, she was like, okay, well, your bag isn't fully under the seat and your seat needs to be coming up now. I'm like, I feel like I was flying with a flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm like, you don't work here. You can't tell me what to do. But my question for like you actually and for the audience is, are you a do it now or a do it later? I'm a do it like barely on time. Like I am not, I am a full-blown procrastinator. Yeah, I'm going to do it later. I'm a later, later, later last minute, girl. What are you?
Starting point is 00:14:13 That is why I'm doing all the things because I'm doing them all so that I don't have to do the thing that I'm putting off. Like, there will be something that I have to do that's like, this is due tomorrow. I am folding, fixing, vacuuming, that's true. I'm doing everything that's giving me this, like, little bursts of dopamine so that I don't have to do the thing for some reason. That would take me 10 minutes. Yeah, your mental gymnastics with yourself. I get so much dopamine from, like, vacuuming for the 15th time or folding laundry and then
Starting point is 00:14:48 putting it away or fixing my lamp. Or she's the one that's most interesting to me because she will absolutely side eye you like the most cutting side eye if you leave a dish in the sink or let's say you wash dishes and there's some like water splatter around and you don't wipe the whole counter down she will like attack you meanwhile meanwhile meanwhile you enter her room her bedroom where she sleeps and there's piles of crusty plates no food clothes clothes clothes. that are unfolded. Yeah. And it's like crazy because she's like, like she's been yelling. She yells at her mom every single day where she's like, you're not doing this right. You're not doing this right. But in her own private space, she wants to rot in hell.
Starting point is 00:15:32 That's not real. Krusty place. Yeah, and I have like coffee drinks or macha that are just like, there's like molds already and I just leave it there. You're Bobby. Yeah. But the outside is like she cleans everything perfectly. So I think I just care more about what people see, but then if it's just my own space, if you, if you've seen my car, it's like the way Tito Bobby left, I've never cleaned it.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It's the same. It hasn't leveled up. Since the last time I cleaned it, it hasn't been cleaned. It sounds like shit too, but. Wait, so that makes sense because if it's your own space, it doesn't really bother you. I don't care, yeah. That does not make sense. Don't try to make sense of that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It does because she cares like what other people think or if there's like a common area that they're going to be like, oh, you didn't clean this. Because I'm being respectful. Or you're not doing a good job. Yeah. But then if it's just my own thing, I don't. Yeah, that's true. I don't understand. I have a topic I'd like to bring up.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Not toot my own horn, but I really think I started the Lana Del Rey marriage trend. Explain. Damn, I don't know anything. Please tell me. So Lana Del Rey, you know Lana Del Rey. Yeah. Okay. Ethereal goddess.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Just, you know. Queen of sad. Our queen. Yeah, queen of sad. One day, just out of nowhere, married an alligator. wrestler, Wrangler, from Louisiana? Like a tour boat, a swamp tour guide?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, swamp tour guide. That's hot. Thank you. Thank you. Is a guy, when you're with someone, are they universally hot to you, or are they geographically hot? Explain.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Okay, so I once dated this guy. I met him when I was in a different land. And over there, I fell in love with everything, everything about him. He was so powerful. it was his domain. I looked at him like the way he dove, the way he drove his truck,
Starting point is 00:17:24 everything. I was like, God, he's like, the way he drove. Everything, right? Everything. The way he shucked. And I thought that I was in love.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I was like, this is the man of my dreams. But then I took him out of his place of power and in brought him into my world and I lost all attraction almost immediately. That is so real. Like when you see a man out of his element, it is frightening.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Unless you see a man. man out of his element and he still got it. Oh. And he's still him. Then I'm like, oh, you're for me. Exactly. So I wanted to ask you. So Aloha's from Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:17:59 He's a diver. He's a hunter. He's all of these things. But when he came over here, he became even hotter because I'm like, oh, he just is great with everything and everyone. He's a better human than me. He's hot. He's universally hot to me.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You see Aloha anywhere and you're like, yeah. He's my man. And you're like, give me a piggyback, right? Yeah. I feel like he's my man all over the world. Like he's my leader. He's my king. He's my queen.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Exactly. Butcher. Like I just need him in our community. And so I wanted to basically remind Lana Del Rey, because we know she watches the show. Oh no. This is a guy you were really attracted to in the swamp. A couple times a year you need to go back there and remind yourself why this guy is so badass he's connected to nature
Starting point is 00:18:50 he knows what the fuck he's doing out there he's like a man of the man out there but if she pulls him too much into Paris Fashion Week and into her world and he's just like who the fuck are these people I hope he's universally hot to her not just geographically is all I'm saying universally hot
Starting point is 00:19:06 because to me he's hot because he's so hot to me the way he's standing there at Paris Fashion Week you could tell he's like ready to fight a gator you know like he brought that energy he sure did he's looking for a gator right now you guys he's not standing there in his mouth or something he is so hot i can't even get over it he's not standing there pretending like he's somebody he's like
Starting point is 00:19:30 i will i'm here to protect her from gaiters but also he probably looks at every single a list person and he was like who's that he doesn't give a fuck and here's the final touch to why he's so attracted to me the sunglasses over the hat where did she meet him it's such a country Yeah, it's so country. It's so hot. So country. She met him, like, I think on a boat tour in Louisiana, I think. Oh, yeah, that's what you said.
Starting point is 00:19:55 That's what legend says. I hope they last forever. I am obsessed with this couple. I get it. I get it. And, you know, people on TikTok are like, this fries my brain. I'm like, no, this brings me immense joy. Like, this is so hot.
Starting point is 00:20:10 She's, I love, it's like subversive. Like, she's always doing something, you know, different and unusual. with her platform like she's bringing the gator guy she's wearing a dress she bought at ross for 1399 on a red carpet that's right she's messing with things a little bit i love that yeah i don't know any of that and i i love her now wow she doesn't play by the rules of hollywood but when you watch um well for instance are it's like you love him universally everywhere but is there a part of you that's like you have to watch him in the field on the field play soccer do this to be like oh my god he's i remember why no because i met him in high
Starting point is 00:20:54 school oh okay yeah and but he was he was playing soccer then but i've seen him in so many iterations of him at this point that it's like i mean i think he needs to be doing what he loves to be doing and be around soccer for him to feel good but i've seen him in so many different areas with different groups of friends, different countries, that I'm just like, you're universally hot to me. Yeah, I saw this one time with my friend. Do you remember the guy she brought to one of our fight nights that was wearing like old Navy flare jeans? Wait.
Starting point is 00:21:31 What? Okay, so he was a very successful guy. He was like a CEO of some like robotics company, like really like highly successful. And I think she met him in that setting. and but he was not necessarily you know like standardly like handsome and she was like hey you mind
Starting point is 00:21:49 if I bring so and so to the family fight night it's like you have seen Gilbert's there Jenna's there like we're all just you know and she that's when she realized like he is situationally geographically hot because she fell in love with him in his place of power
Starting point is 00:22:04 which was at the robotics company when he was at his big desk and then he stepped out from behind the desk in his old navy flared jeans and into family fight night. And she was like, I can never have sex with this man. So like you really have to be real with yourself. Like where are they hot?
Starting point is 00:22:22 When are they hot? If they're hot all the time to you, that's your man. That is such a good test that I feel like doesn't get discussed enough. Like for me, it's so weird whenever I've seen Dave in his element. Because like at home, he's like 14 times a day. He's like, are you mad at me? Am I in trouble? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 What did I do? That's true. And then I see him at work. and he's like mean to everybody and he's like I'm like whoa what it's so crazy whenever I see that I'm like oh my God it's so he is so confident at work I don't it's like you've crushed his soul I never tried to he asked me like am I in trouble and I'm like I you like literally will yell at him I'm like you're not in trouble like stop asking okay but she'll also do this when he's like are you mad at me she'll go
Starting point is 00:23:11 no but I'm not he wants to be in trouble it's true and I will say that Dave has always been hot to me because I've always seen his like
Starting point is 00:23:29 power yeah it's also an act he will he does not put up with any of my bullshit I thought he would like he's he tricked me like I thought he was going to be a pushover and he's so not.
Starting point is 00:23:42 He is the opposite of a pushover. He's too true. He's not a people pleaser too. I saw this with my very own eyes when my stepdad, Roger, was like, do you ever just want to break from your kids? And Dave's like, no, that's my daughter. And I was like, you tell him, Dave. Because, you know, Roger bless his heart.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But, you know, he says some, like, misogynistic things. It's like, you know, just that generation, right? He's like almost 80. He did. And he was like, he looked at him like, why would you even say that? What? And then he's like, come here, A.C. What what Roger was trying to do was trying to bro down.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. He was trying to bro down and be like, don't you ever just want to break from the women, the kids, you know? That kind of vibe. And Dave's like, no. Dave is so bad. He's great. He's particularly like not play well with older Jewish men because he's so mean to my dad. Did I even tell you guys they had like a huge, there was like a huge drama between Dave and my dad for a few months.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. Tell me. How do I now know this? Oh my God. Basically, we were at my parents' house, and, you know, my dad, like, has access to my, like, accounts because he does, like, my financial accounts. Because he does, like, some day-to-day, like, he'll move money from my checking, my savings to my checking to help me pay my credit card. It's so embarrassing because Roger is the same for me. He does?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, that's the thing. Dave, me, everyone needs to understand if you know an 80-year-old Jewish man, that's what you put. That's your CPA. You're literally keeping them alive. longer. This is what they want to do. Text messages I get on a daily. He's like, send me the code. Fidelity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Wait, my mom. I just realized that's my mom for me. Yesterday she's like, credit karma should have sent you a code. Your credit score went down. It's tricky because my dad does have a history of gambling. Dave made some comment like, oh, well, maybe we should change the passwords. Like, so that my dad, and it was like quiet for a second. Like, you thought me.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Your dad was there in person. Yeah. I mean, you thought I was going to blow over. Then my dad's like, change that. passwords he's like well that's he he just like got really upset and offended mom do you remember what was said i wasn't paying attention oh but then like it was weird and so then like for a few months like i noticed that whenever i would talk to my dad he would like make a comment like against dave then finally i'm like dave you have to apologize to my dad and he did and then like it was fine but my
Starting point is 00:26:08 apologize for what just saying that maybe you should change the passwords. Yeah, like Dave was like basically saying like my dad shouldn't have access to my money. Well, dad felt like that Dave thought that he was going to steal. Yeah. I get that. That would be super offensive. Yeah. No, what Dave said was really offensive because he's nasty to old Jewish men. And but sometimes they need to be nasty too. True. Like sometimes Roger, this is what he said to me. And by the way, Roger is one of those like he was. A draft dodger in the best way. Like, he, he was an activist against the Vietnam War.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He is a history teacher. He's very liberal. He is very all about just the good things, right? But once in a while, he'll say, you know, this is why older men go for younger women. It's the hair is what he says. And then I think I crashed out. And I crashed out over this comment. Were you there?
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah, Christmas at that. Oh, my God. I crashed out hard. It's the hair. It's just, you know, when your hormones are gone, your hair gets crispy and you just got to chop it all off. And all of you and all these women walking around. I would crash the fuck out. Okay. But this is, bless his heart.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It's just his era. It's not his heart. It's his era. It's his hair. And then he was like, that's why I would never allow your mom to cut her hair. And I was like, allow. She needs your permission. I'm like, Roger, she can do whatever the fuck she wants with her hair.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I would have shaved her head right then. Because my mom was like, hey, I really want to get like a bob cut because she looks great with short hair. And Roger's like, absolutely not merit test. You'll be so, basically telling her she's going to be ugly. And so then we like, we had like a head-on collision. It was like, he's like, if you don't believe me, he gets kitchen scissors. He's like, cut your hair right now. He's like, if you don't believe what I say, if you don't think long hair is, he's so dirty.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He's like, if you don't agree with what I'm saying, he's like, cut your hair right now. And he gets me catches scissors and I was about to cut my hair right there before my mom was like, no, no. But also it's up to you if you want to or don't want to cut your hair. Yeah, but it's the type of nasty shit they say. And then the next day he's like, hi, sweetie. How are you doing? Because he has a fucking memory of a goldfish. And because to him it wasn't like a big deal or a big thing.
Starting point is 00:28:30 He was just like stating what he's been taught his whole life. But I just crashed out. I had the big reaction. I'd be like cut your dick off then if it doesn't matter. Cut it off. Even when I first came here, he told me, like, he was just saying, like, oh, I really thought you were that stupid. Oh, yeah, that's true. From the Philippines.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah. What? Yeah. He thought I couldn't read. He thought I couldn't do anything. By the way, Jules is like a straight A student from, like, all throughout college and all throughout high school. But basically, he would talk to her like this. Do you have homework today?
Starting point is 00:29:06 How can I help you? And knowing Jules, she's just like, yeah, no. He's like a helicopter parent, and I lived with him and Matas, so it was just a lot. And I would just be always like, no, like, I don't need any help. I'm fine, I'm fine. No, I don't need any help. Remember when you first came here from America and, like, you couldn't do anything yourself? They would, like, wash through your dishes for you.
Starting point is 00:29:28 They would make you eat breakfast. Like, Matas would cook me breakfast every morning. Yeah, they would let me. Well, she was a kid, right? No, she was like 16. 16 years old. That's a kid. No.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Because in the Philippines, I did everything. Yeah. But they wanted to baby the shit out of her. And so I was just like, all right, enough, you're going to come live with me. Where I won't do anything and you're going to do everything for me. And then you missed it a little, right? Because then it turned into, can you call the vet's office for me? Can you do this?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Can you do that? So she became like my personal assistant. Oh, what a dream. That is what's weird. I don't know what you do with teens. Like, basically when, if you have a kid and they're at that. that age where they can do for themselves? Do they do it for themselves or do you still do it?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Because this is a big thing. They do it for themselves. Yeah, but see, this is a thing with my sister where she's like always like so tired, has no time. She's like, I have to do all the dishes, whatever. And I'm like, your kids, I literally have heard them say to me, we could do it. She complains about it, but like their kids are like, we know how to do all that. And then I tell my sister that.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And she's like, yeah, but they're kids. So I should be doing it for them. I kind of understand that, though, because I think you spend so much of their early, like, formative years, like, absolute devotion, right? You have to do everything for them. And you get into that programming in your head. It's hard to do everything for them in their early years and then just, like, abruptly stop. I don't think, I think that has to, you have to wean from that slowly because you're, like, programmed to be like, I have to do everything from my kid because they don't know how to do it yet. They're six years old.
Starting point is 00:31:04 They're seven years old. Maybe that doesn't leave your. body? I'm not sure. And then imagine you have ways that you do things, that you like things done that that you've been doing for them their whole lives. I'm not being, people don't think they're being particular. They're just like, this is, this is the most efficient way to do the thing. So let's do it that way. And then the kids don't do it that way. This is why I'm afraid of doing dishes. Oh my God. We've circled back to her incompetence. Because when I was younger, if I tried to do anything in the kitchen, I would get yelled at. I would get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So for me, the safest way to live is to just not do anything. You know what, Marmar, I'm with you because she's getting yelled at because you're trying to help her do it correctly, efficiently. She's not trying to help me do it right. Well, why would she yell at you? She's because I did it wrong. Exactly. So she wants you to do it right. No, she's not teaching me.
Starting point is 00:31:57 She's not saying this. But I do, I do feel like some people just don't know how to clean dishes. And I feel like that's you. So I guess it's fine that you get yelled at. Because she would rather you leave it all in the sink. That's her. Because she'll get mad. If she, this is what she does to me or her mom or anyone in the house.
Starting point is 00:32:15 She won't say, Atekelai, you've done this wrong. She'll make it so that she's with an eye shot. And she's in the kitchen. She goes to the dish rack, the drying rack. She does this. And she goes, and she makes it. She knows I'm watching. And then she'll rewash it.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And I'm like, oh, I did that one wrong. Yeah, because she's trying to let you know. You could. But did you guys ever go to someone else's house when you're a younger and you're like these dishes are not clean and it like traumatized you i didn't care when i was younger oh i care a lot now i look at whenever i go to your house i look at the cups every single time i do too because it's the dishwasher doesn't do it yeah it's the detergent you're using no no no that's what she says is that because i'm using like a clean alternative detergent it could
Starting point is 00:33:00 be actually i think you're right because lately when we've been using the clean stuff for the baby it just doesn't wash it. I know. I want to be in denial about this. Why? Oh, because you don't want to use it? Because I'll never use it. You're never going to use Cascade. No, it's, whenever I use homes and they have, and I take a sip of water. Oh, yeah. The whole thing smells and tastes like cascades. Can I tell you Jenna had a crash out in my house because we have from our water? And she was like, I don't feel well. I drank a little bit of your water and like, I'm like having like palpitation. It's not Filipino water just because of them. And I'm like, it's, I'll, it's, I'll, Klein water, but it was like from those like delivery service and acrylic containers.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I was flipping out those days. Why? Because I was having back-to-back heart episodes. What was wrong with your water? Nothing. Was wrong with her water. She was like, have you ever felt this way when you drink your water? I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I would shoot you. I said I was like, it was either your water or something that I ate like in my bag, which is like most likely something I ate in my bag. And she's like, no, but it's the same water we give the baby. So it's not that I go, okay. It's so funny. You don't look like a witch. You look like Captain Hulk.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Or some kind of like pioneer. You don't look good. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. October 10th is World Mental Health Day. And this year, we're saying thank you therapists. I think that what I get most out of therapy is I don't always connect the dots. It's such a relief when someone can do that for you. It's very validating.
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Starting point is 00:37:47 customers 20% off your first year subscription. That's J-O-I-N-B-L-V-D dot com to learn more. I-O-I-N-B-L-V-D dot com. We've got some Witches Brew for you guys today. We decided to do like a potion break instead of a banana break. It's so funny guys' voice, like just the most like monotone guy. Apologize. We've written up for like the girly shit. We have you witches brew.
Starting point is 00:38:21 There's matcha in there. He's like, yeah, so we got your witch's brew here today because we decided to do that instead of a banana break. You dumb bitches. Wait, this is the oat, right? Has it taste good? It's good. Oh, you know, I can't have macha.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'll take it. Jules is going to drink everyone's. What else is new? What else is new? I love saying that to Dave, like in the morning. So what's new? And he's like, you do that to me too.
Starting point is 00:38:48 We'll be hanging out for seven hours. She goes, so what's new? It's like, bitch, what? Nothing's new. I've been sitting here, rubbing your feet, massaging, making you pancakes, fixing your vacuum cleaner, you know what's new and you know what's old.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But there could be developments throughout the day. Yeah. Especially with you, maybe you drank some bad water. It wasn't actually bad. But I'll be at your house. The amount of times a day, Esther texts me, sup. You know, yeah. Sup, fucky. What's
Starting point is 00:39:20 going on, little fucker? Are you like a clingy friend? Yeah. Hmm. Are you? No. No. You're not? I wouldn't. I don't see you as clingy, though, although I guess you are. I am, but I can handle any kind of, you know. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Like, I'm never worried about hurting her feelings or saying the wrong thing. Like, she can be clingy and I can uncling her and be like, get away. And she'll be like, okay, somebody's angry. I'm in trouble. Yeah, like when you yell at me. Do you share your location with her and everyone? Just me and Dave. Whoever wants it.
Starting point is 00:39:54 You're not, like, precious about it. No, not anymore. Jenna has it. She won't give me hers, though. Yeah. Why not? No, because of this reason. Yeah. There was a time when I shared my location with you, like 10 years ago. I was like, sure, who cares?
Starting point is 00:40:09 But the way that Esther checks it and wonders and is like mapping to me or asking, oh, I see you're here. It's like, no, you lost it. You lost your privileges. And you know what? It's not that there's even anything wrong with that. There is. Although there is. Please don't say there isn't.
Starting point is 00:40:27 it's more weird that I worry that I'm going to have to like that it's going to be more stressful for me that I'm going to have to answer a question about something that I have to tell her where I am what I'm getting pictures of what I ordered yeah that's weird but then also I see that you're not the only one who's like this because very recently I came across a person and a friend who I didn't know was like this but she obsessively tracks people in her life for no reason remember Jules cool maybe it's fun oh yeah yeah where she was literally reciting to us us where this other friend of ours was. That sounds so fun. She's downstairs in the parking lot. Oh my God. She's downstairs in the parking lot. Okay. She's in her car in a parking lot.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Like leave her the fuck alone. Why is she over here at this dim sum place? And we were, Jill and I were like, oh my God. I was getting annoyed. Yeah. See, that's the thing with me. You know, I say too much.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I would have just been like, why the fuck do you care? Let's move on. Do you share with anyone? My sister and Jules and that's it. What about Aloha? Oh, we haven't gotten there. You know, we're very, uh, you're not that. close yet.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm not that close. We have a baby, but you guys never go outside of this? Well, I know. That's not his choice. That's not my, I feel bad. I refuse to believe that parenting is anything but a tandem job. Solo parenting, not it for me. I don't think that parenting, even for a day, even for two hours, is a one-person job.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I think it should be two people there at all times for emotional support or whatever else it requires. When I'm at work and Aloha's like, oh, cool, like I'll be alone with a baby. nope, I require that my mom or Jules or somebody is there. If it's just Jules, I'll have my mom join her. It's a two-person job. Why is that? I don't, I just feel like it is. There needs to be a witness because, for example, especially this young, if they can't fend for
Starting point is 00:42:12 themselves and someone has croaks or has a heart attack, there has to be a witness there to figure out to take care of the baby, right? And I think about this all the time. It's like my mom, of course, she can take care of the baby by yourself. Oh, ha, frog. Is he croaking too often? You're such a loser. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Did you guys don't think about this? No. No. Oh, I'm not. I will say that when I'm watching other people's kids, ever since I started having, like, more prominent health issues, I do worry, what if I pass out, because that's like my fear? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 What if I pass out and the baby is just here on their own? And so sometimes I'm like, they'll be fine. Yeah, Esther is. Like, you're much better than me because even when the early years of like just the newborn trenches or the early years, the early months of the newborn trenches, I couldn't breastfeed alone. I couldn't change a diaper alone. I needed someone there to witness. I was afraid. I have this like fear. I'm like doing something wrong that I need correction. That I someone can like maybe, you know, help me be better. And I just think that Aloha and I, he is my prisoner. He left for Seattle for some, for a doctor's appointment, for literally less than 48 hours. And when I tell you, after his appointment, I was like, take the first flight home. Like, you're not allowed to have a coffee anywhere. Like, you have to fly home.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Like, this is a two-person job. If there are no flights, you will drive. But were you ever alone or did you have? I'm rarely alone. That's just not a life I want to live. That's never the life she wanted to live before she had a kid. So with the kid, she's not living. She needs double the amount of people that she needed there before.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Tandem parenting. We are side by side. You are doing this together. I have to say for all my fears, I've never been afraid of midday croaking. Like, of anyone? My croaking is. I feel like you're unlocking this new fear. I'm like, oh, man, people are going to have a midday croaking.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I will have more. I will, no. Well, most people croak early morning. So you're safe there. Yeah. Why are you saying that? Why am I safe there? Oh, midday is safe.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. So usually. people croak from cardiac like implications anywhere between like 5.30 a.m. to like 7 a.m. And it's because your arteries tend to be a little bit less like there's less movement. You're just waking up for your day and then there's sudden movement. So most heart attacks actually happen. So I shouldn't do sudden movement in the morning. Oh my God. What are you doing? This isn't for you. You're not going to early croak. I'm talking about like, you know, people who have like comorbidities and cardiac problems. Well, I don't not have cardiac problems.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Look, this is the Witches episode. There's got to be some spookiness. Okay, no one's going to croak. No one's going to croak. Midday, mid-morning. Mid-drive is one of my biggest ones. Mid-drive? That's why I need someone in the car.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Like, no person is allowed to drive my baby by themselves. There has to be a person who's going to grab the wheel in case driver croaks. Esther would let her baby drive by herself. Like, are you kidding me? No way, no. you fucking would well she's all right most people are fine she's okay I do realize this is everything to do with
Starting point is 00:45:32 postpartum anxiety and I will you know rise from from this you will rise from the I will rise from the death yeah you know Esther loves to have two people around as the judge when it's not her doing the work so like when you when you're the one doing something whether it's like cleaning her baby's diaper for her or like a couple days ago I was over there making these pancakes that she wanted me to make
Starting point is 00:45:56 but I had never made them before and then she told me how to make them and she's like okay I'm gonna go lay back down she did not she stood there in the fucking kitchen with me this close to me this close and I'm like bro can you give me some space and she's like oh well and it's not even like she was there to help me because she could have been like
Starting point is 00:46:14 oh so now that usually I look at her face I wanted to see how you're a tiger mom you're a tiger mom in like in disguise I think Because it's not helicopter where she was managing. Because Esther doesn't know how to manage anything. She was just, like, wanted to look and like, ooh. I wanted to see how you were making the pancakes. It was making it worse.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And then I made her leave the kitchen, close the door, and locked her out from the kitchen. She did lock me out. It was because it was bad. I was like, I can't make these without you. Under pressure. No. And then I was flipping them. And I was burning them.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And as soon as she left, perfect pancakes. Yeah. I mean, I feel that. I wouldn't want it. What was that face? I instructed you how to make them. So I'm the chef And you're the cook
Starting point is 00:46:54 I needed to watch you I honestly wanted to see how you did it Because I usually do it bad I did do them better than you normally do Yeah I made her get different spatulas Because she was using To flip pancakes
Starting point is 00:47:05 You know the long stainless steel hard Yeah A brownie For a piece of cake That's what she was using To flip her pancakes Okay nobody cares Let's move on
Starting point is 00:47:16 I feel like that's not a bad choice though That's where your pancakes were never coming out Because it was this small. Kalila is on my side. She's not when she sees it. I'm not. It never was. You're crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You're crazy. I called you a tiger mom. Only over Jenna, though. Not over eight. We have a little trick-or-treat game for you guys. We have some sluggies. They've submitted some comments and questions. Some are treats.
Starting point is 00:47:41 They're like nice in nature. And some are tricks. And they're like a little bit vulnerable, maybe snarky a little bit. Sounds like a sister. They're from the YouTube comments. section on our videos yeah lord thank god i got a treat you got a treat jennie gets only tricks yeah i only want tricks the first treat comment for us there is you ladies are incredible hearing the emotions and tears and the real talk means so much to me i needed to hear this perspective and to do
Starting point is 00:48:07 some personal searching as well thank you that's so nice but that does feel like it's more for colila because i feel like i've been to cryer yeah lately i'm crying a lot i'm so bad it's i don't know You're bad at crying. I want. Finish your sentence. It's really hard for me to get real and vulnerable, like, on the podcast. Like, even every time I have been, it's like I have, like, a mask on where I'm like, so this crazy thing happened and like, I'm like, I'm like, I still think that you're real
Starting point is 00:48:37 and honest and genuine. I think there's a difference between that and maybe what you're talking about is like just being vulnerable. Yeah, and I think that it really just has to do, like, I really, it's been like an issue since I was young. I cry really easy. Like, I'm, do you, Jules? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Oh, maybe it's the Lexapro. Oh, my sister did say that. She has a hard time crying on Lexapro. Yeah, I do too. I bet I can make you cry. But, like, just to be, like, because truly this is the first time we're recording since, like, a major tragedy happened. Of course, I'm laughing. We had a major tragedy in my family, like, four days ago.
Starting point is 00:49:10 My niece and nephew's father passed away, like, in the way that is complicated, where he lost to, his mental health battle and like it's just been so hard and like I don't know where oh no my was no I'm crying okay she's crying for me but yeah it's like that's the way I talk about it is I'm like laughing and I'm not really present in the feelings of it because I just there's like cameras and lights and I I don't know it's really weird I'm there's something wrong no I think it makes full sense it's hard with all of this to be present and to be able to like sit with what you're feeling it's distracting like maybe i'm like in an escape mode here or something but yeah it's like this horrible tragedy like now like these two teenagers who i love more than
Starting point is 00:49:59 anything like how do i deal with i have no concept of what it's like to be a teenager and your parent took their own life i can't that's a concept that is so i don't know it's just and i feel so bad for these children obviously i feel bad for you know he was my brother-in-law at least at a time. My sister and him had divorced, you know, about 10 years ago, but he was still a great father to them. Yeah. And he was a good person. He just was struggling with mental health issues. And what makes it even more complicated is like, I don't know if you guys feel this, but when people sort of like, you've heard people say like, they threaten it, you know, like I'm going to take my own life. And I've always, in my experience, felt like those are
Starting point is 00:50:46 the people where they're just like playing with you and fucking manipulating you, he had threatened it. And I just had not taken that seriously. And, you know, not that it's whatever, it wasn't my position to step in and do anything. But I'm just so, it's almost like I'm more blindsided or something in a way, like the fact that he was like threatening it, which sounds really stupid and weird. No, it makes sense. I think that, yeah, it's so layered and complicated. You're not wrong like it is an emotionally abusive thing to tell someone if you don't do this i'm going to take my own life because that's i've done i've been in relationships where someone has threatened that right and you're like i still i cannot be in this yeah and it's it feels horrible in that moment
Starting point is 00:51:32 because you think you're responsible for this person's like well-being right and also like you said it feels in those moments like they're saying it to threaten it versus as a truth yeah yeah now it's like you said really blindsiding you and like wait this could be a thing thing where if someone says it they actually could mean it and then it also makes me feel like and I know this sounds really dark but I'm just like this is suicide is not preventable I'm like it it just feels like if someone is going to do it like you don't like good luck like there's no prevention and I know that's I shouldn't say that that's irresponsible to say but it is just how I feel like after having a couple of these now like especially this year and then the other thing that
Starting point is 00:52:14 comes up for me is like, you know, when I was in my postpartum, like, hardcore self-hatred, anxiety through the roof. And like, I went back on my Lexapro. And that medication adjustment, it really did nearly cost me my life. Like, I was never going to do that. But it got me so low where I was like, oh my God, I see it's when you feel like you're in a burning building. And like the only way is to jump out. Like there's, there's no choice. And I just having that experience, and like feeling that little bit of like what it must be like when you make that decision. I just feel so scared and sad and I don't know. I'm just kind of monologuing.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I'm sure my mom is crying hard. I'm sorry, Mom. My mom has been having a really hard time. Obviously, she cries a lot, but we make fun of her that she likes to cry. Sorry. Love you, Marmar. Anyways. So that's my treat.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Trick or treat. That's all for time. Today, thank you so much for being here. That really does suck, and I'm so sorry. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for letting me share it in like my own way. This feels awkward for me to just move on now. Trick!
Starting point is 00:53:31 This was related to the E.N. episode, the chaos of it. Someone said, oh man, this is trash. Duh. Did you not read the title? I think it might be kind of a compliment maybe as well. Oh, thank you. I mean, anytime someone says that I'm trashed, I just think it's, I've been calling myself trash for like 20 years. I like it. I think it's cute.
Starting point is 00:53:50 She beat you to it. Which, which Ian episode? The one that just came out. It was the bobbing for oranges. Oh, yeah, we were fucking nasty. I thought it was really wholesome. I thought quite the opposite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:03 The amount of water and stuff that was going everywhere felt like nasty. I got sick from that orange water, by the way. Oh, no. See, sometimes it's the water. You were like, I'm not going in there. I'm going to get sick. I got sick from it. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's the trash. Like, what else? Okay. Well, try again next time. Treat. Damn. If everyone gets a treat except for me. Last family episode, you're on Jules.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Someone commented, I always feel like I'm hanging out with my best girlfriend's when I'm watching you guys. Love that vibe. Oh, cute. That's nice. She doesn't know how to take compliments. I will say that every single Trash Tuesday fan that I have met is genuinely the kindest, nicest human ever. I was doing a bank ATM. Can you just roll the tapes real quick?
Starting point is 00:54:57 The way you just stared right at her nipples just now while she was talking about how great our fans are. They're showing. What do you mean they're showing? Rewind on her eyes like searing holes through Jenna's tits. What do you mean they're showing? They're showing. What do you mean what I mean? You're wearing a tight, light-colored top with no bra.
Starting point is 00:55:14 They're showing. It's nice. There's nothing wrong with it. Kalila's the one making it something bad. You can't see them. Esther. Let me know if I'm the one making it something bad. Please rewind.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Esther's the one making it thing bad. Please blur that. And then zoom in on Esther's eyes. Anyway. Oh, my God. Can you focus? My face is up here. I'm speaking up here.
Starting point is 00:55:41 She can't look at me because she can't handle it. So I was doing a bank withdrawal at an ATM at this bank, obviously. She's like nervous because her crush is here. Your mom. And so I thought that someone was like approaching me. And I got like, I got like a little, because she approached me in like a standoffish type of way without saying anything. And I just go like, oh, that one doesn't work. You can use this one.
Starting point is 00:56:11 She goes, are you, Jenna? I'm thinking like, does she just see my bank saying? She's like, I'm such a fan of Trash Tuesday. You guys honestly are the best. And I'm Filipino. And I just want to say that I love you guys so much. And it makes me feel like I'm at home and like I'm hanging out with my friends. And then she was like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And then left and went back into the bank. That's sweet. So, so sweet. And of us. Like two times a week, I feel like I encounter someone who just wants to say how grateful that they are for this podcast. And then just like, let me be on my way. That's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Oh, I forgot there was a girl at my Portland show that wants to date you. Pretty? Yeah. Do you have her info? I can find her TikTok. Send it to me. Yeah. I promise I would tell you.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I chose trick. Thank God. God. It's getting a little too sweet. Not to piss off Kalila, but I think shoulder-length hair really suits Jules. No, it doesn't. We did try. Shoulder?
Starting point is 00:57:09 No, no, no. It's got to be. above the shoulder or below the shoulder length is like above and shoulder no yeah you're sabotaging my sweet niece how dare you no we've tried i always just have like a mental breakdown i just want to cut my hair and every time i do it it's just a bad decision well if you do even shorter she's gone very short she's gone to here right yeah she helped me cut it like straight because it was just because she just went blindly in the dark and just took scissors like this yeah i'll cut your hair i'll do good job do you think i could i would love to use your hair to use your hair to you to do like hair plugs. I can give you some. Is that how hair plugs work? They take like from the back of your hair. Why would you do it?
Starting point is 00:57:49 What? Because I'm so thin up here now. Oh, I thought you meant you were going to do it to jewels. No, no, I want to take some of her hair and put it on me. You do not need it. You're dumb. I think you need your own hair so that you don't reject because you could possibly reject hurts. Damn.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Well, go to Turkey. I'll go with you. Are you going to get it too? This is going to sound really obnoxious and I don't mean to flex. I didn't think this could happen, but since I removed all silicones and petrochemicals from like my hair care, my every day, my hair came back with a fury. And when I was pregnant, I had so much hair. And even with postpartum hair loss, I still have a lot of hair.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And I am shocked. That's amazing. I never thought that because I was like, oh, I'm just getting older. My hair is thinning and it's just going to be this way. And it turns out like silicone was blocking any nourishment from really like entering my roots. in Eb Ocean Club. I've been using it for years. And I'm saying this not as like a marketing thing for my own brand.
Starting point is 00:58:44 No, because you were paranoid about your hair. Fuck me up. And I look back now at my hair before, my hair now. And I'm like, oh, like this is it. This was the missing thing. I was putting nasty shit in my hair. Go to ebboceanclub.com. If you also want your hair back.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I want to get unnecessary hair transplants. You don't need it. Like in my head. No. Like instead of getting like extended. extensions or like yeah maybe just get the surgeries but you have incredible hair yeah but I could do better like my hair used to be so thick that I had those shears that were like that that I would thin my hair on my own up until I was like 29 yeah and then my hair up here for my hormones just
Starting point is 00:59:27 started thinning thinning thinning thinning you can do it on your eyebrows right yeah I think Christy Teigen did on her eyebrows, but then it doesn't grow as eyebrow hair. It grows ass. If you get it from your pubs, you'll get pubs up here and you have to keep cutting your eyebrows. Ew. Damn. Wait, that's like our friend who got that like skin graft from her pubic area. Nobody believes me when I tell that story. And now she grows like cubes on this one little area in her hand. Thank you for confirming that. It's real. You should get one on your chin. So I can have a little goatee. I probably are I would fit your personality. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I think a mustache, like a really good mustache for me. That would look so good on you. We'd be like, yo, what's up? I'm Juan. I don't need help with that. I have a mustache, but not like a grown, grown one where I could like to have a mustache. It would look so right on you to have a mustache. I honestly think I would look hot.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Can you pull up canteen flush? Here, Jenna. What do you think? Look at canteen flush. It's a little side right here, like right here. I'm into it. I would go so well with your necklace. It's like the opposite of Hitler, so I like it.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You said that would go well with your nipples. Thank you. Esther, take your pick. I'm going to just pick trick. Everyone picks trick. Yeah, everyone has to be sure. I would like one treat, maybe. No.
Starting point is 01:00:42 No. Okay. No, thanks. Someone said, I'm going to be a hater and say, Esther, that prodig bag is ugly. If you have money for Prada, get a cute one. I don't understand this. I disagree. What's your Prada bag?
Starting point is 01:00:56 This bag is a classic mom bag. I'm going to have this for the rest of my days. it goes let me tell you something gen z you guys i was i was your age once and i did i did the mini bag right and then guess what you're out you're about it slides down or you're having to hold it i get it looks cute i know it's a vibe it's a moment but that's it's it's only good for a moment that's functional you're gonna want function you're gonna want hands free okay this is what and this is classy this is i bought it at the airport in rome okay you can't fight me and also it's a perfect it's kind of like city mouse like you can fit diaper
Starting point is 01:01:38 some wipes everything you need for your baby i know it's not in style to wear crossbody but that will come back at some point between now gives a shit i hate purses and when they said that you had a prodig bag i was like ew and then i realized it's that one that one is a yes it looks like a kipling bag it's amazing and i have the mini prada bag but it's too annoying to use any bag that you you have to hold like this or like this is a no. Jules, you've been quiet over there. What do you think? I'm still getting used to the
Starting point is 01:02:09 cross body. I... You don't like it. Yeah, the Gen Zs don't like it. I can still hold it like this. Yeah, I don't mind it. In my teen years, we did that too with the coach bags and I just, it's, then my shoulder's like this and it hurts. And also if it's a little handle, no.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Like, what are you doing there? It is cute. That's what I imagine is the little handle. It's just not functional. Oh, no. I'm talking about like a big oh that one's fine yeah i just know that you guys feel that way and i don't feel that way okay i want my hands free i want to be out in the world i i don't you know what if i'm walking and i want to eat a slice of pizza while i'm walking and it has a zipper like that's a bag versus like a little purse where it's like staying open it makes me feel like it's not good oh i mean i don't
Starting point is 01:02:53 like it and i would never get it for myself but i'm trying to have your fucking back which i just think you can't go wrong with a little black bag i mean i don't like it and I would never have it for myself again. Okay, good. But. It's a shame it would look good on you. Trick for Jenna. I guess I'll get another trick.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Everyone's getting it to all tricks round. 3-6 Monica. 3-6 Mafia. With the utmost peace and love, I've always thought Jenna's usual hair gives Lord Farquot. Holds the picture. Yeah, now I can't unsee it. Oh, my man.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I don't even have anything to say because it's like, listen, you're not wrong, but it sucks and it's sad. And you can't say that with the utmost peace and love. If it was with the utmost peace and love, you wouldn't have said it. And you know what? With the least utmost peace in love, I just want to tell you, you're not wrong. Where am I looking? You're not wrong. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:56 But I was just talking about how I wanted a fucking hair transplant because I'm lacking in hair up here and have hair over here because of my hormones. And that is why I look like Lord McFarkoo-Harr. That sucks. That sucks. Doesn't he wear a hat like that? That sucks! But that's okay that you think that because it's true.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Taking it like a champ. I'll do a trick. Yeah, I'll cry when I leave. This one is actually a question. If you could pick one person, who would you hex if you could? Come on, girl. It's very easy. She's going to go with Zoe Kravitz because she's dating Harry Styles.
Starting point is 01:04:37 No, I was going to go Duterte. All right. Who? A decent choice. The ex-president in the Philippines. Rodrigo Duterte. A lot of, like, very unjust killings. That's a great choice.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Of his own people. Consider him hexed. Or Zoe Kravitz. Zoe Kravitz is dating Harry Styles? I know. He likes older. women I don't understand Zoe Kravitz is like
Starting point is 01:05:04 so young no but Harry's 29 he's only 29 he's already lost all his hair yeah he's bald but it's okay he got an FUE and Turkey probably wasn't Zoe Kravitz just dating Channing Tadena yeah now she's with Harry I know I'm so sad
Starting point is 01:05:20 but at least he's like dating brown girls yeah give me my dagger he's always cracked me up because everyone misspells your name since when colila is mom explain it to me. Since when? Colila.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I spelt it K-O-L-A-I-L-A-I-L-A-L-A. Kalaila is mom. Yeah, I'm not going to explain shit to this ding-dong. Since when, it's like, just watch. Since when you spell her name right, someone explain to me, please. Well, when a man and a woman. Esther, can you explain how babies are made? When they're in love.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Is this how you're going to explain it to A's? Throw me something else guy. No, I'm going to do what my parents didn't let the teachers explain it. When they're in love. They didn't explain anything. to me. This one might be a little backhanded. You know, I like about this pod is that you have four women. Not one
Starting point is 01:06:05 of them is ever all dolled up. No glam girls, no makeup, just natural beauty. It's rather refreshing. I can't think of another pod with four women, bare-faced beauty. I literally am waiting. You know what that's funny? I'm backhanded. Oh my God. I'm wearing all my best makeup right now.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Me too. I literally was in here. I know like this is a fucking powder. Are you kidding me? This is the best, it gets for us. This is a bare-faced, baby. I try so hard. No, but we're, we dress like shit all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:37 And we don't do glam. We're not having someone do our makeup. We're not like really doing it up. We're doing like natural day makeup. That is true, but this is, I mean, let's be real. Like, there was effort involved for me every day and it doesn't seem like it. You do have makeup on today. Every time.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No. No. I mean, not a lot. But I do put a blush, and I do put a little bit of eyeliner. I don't have a lip color today. Neither do I. I don't think lip color looks good on anyone. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Sometimes I swear. That's weird. Anyone, anyone. Just like you just want to be pale and crusty. It's not pale. It's the color of your lips. But look at the color of my natural color of my lips. They are pale.
Starting point is 01:07:21 No, you have very good color. Mine is two-toned. I have different color. Oh, you too. It is too dark. No, it's not. Are you kidding me? Don't you give it to the haters.
Starting point is 01:07:30 You're so fucking stupid, Joel, sometimes. If you want to do a hex on Duterte, if you want to do a hex on him, do a fucking hex on yourself, okay? Because you're being racist towards yourself right now. I'm just saying it's dark. You said, it's too, no, you do
Starting point is 01:07:46 because you said, mine is too dark. I have a bone to pick with people on the internet as it pertains to my lips, by the way. Like, Bobby did this thing on Tiger your belly where I showed up to one of the episodes he's like why are your lips so big and ever since then people are like a winner you're so grotesquely blown up all the fucking fillers you get on your lips and I'm like big lips though and your cheeks are just naturally like that I'm so sorry and this is like a constant thing I'm getting because Bobby said your lips are so big so now they believe that I've gotten
Starting point is 01:08:18 when do I have the time with a half paralyzed fucking face you couldn't get anything with a half paralyzed face so fuck you guys for thinking I'm doing anything to my face. I would if I could, but not right now. Would if I could, but I can't sell it won't. Someone also the same person who wrote to you. Oh yeah, he did say the same to you about your lips. So the same thing about my lips and my face and then I'm getting a bunch of
Starting point is 01:08:38 stuffed out and I would just like to say thank you. I know I love when people think that. Maybe someday. All right. My lips are not grotesque. My lips are not grotesque. From the grotesque girls of your dreams, we thank you for this,
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