Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Iliza Shlesinger is a Different Animal

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

We are so honored & delighted to have to have the one and only Iliza Shlesinger in the stu today! Iliza, Esther, and Khalyla kick back and talk about Iliza's daughter (and son she forgets about sometimes), how the word MILF has got to go, partying when you're older, intimidating male comics, chicken on pasta + much more!!! Go watch Iliza's special on Amazon Today!!!!!  Thank You to Our Sponsor(s): *Helix Go to https://www.helixsleep.com/trashtueday for 20% Off Sitewide!!  *Hulu for sponsoring this episode - See the new Hularious stand up special, Bill Burr: Drop Dead years- streaming on Hulu March 14th. *Betterhelp Go to https://www.betterhelp.com/trashtuesday to get 10% off your first month.  *Go see Esther Live in Los Angeles This Thursday 3/13 & Chicago 3/21!!! https://www.instagram.com/esthermonster/ *Listen to Esther's New Solo Pod! https://www.esthersgrouptherapy.substack.com *Visit Ebb Ocean Club for Khalyla's reef safe hair products! https://www.ebboceanclub.com/ MORE ILIZA: Website: https://iliza.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/ilizas/ Chapters: 00:00 Iliza loves her daughter (and her son) 06:55 Calling Bobby about Tigerbelly 12:00 Visiting Japan 18:00 Iliza's Husband 25:40 Mothers aren't Liked 35:00 Partying as Adults 01:00:00 Gen Z vs Mills ______________________________________________________________________FOLLOW TRASH ON SOCIALS:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itstrashtuesday Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itstrashtuesday MORE ESTHER: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@esthermonster Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/esthermonster/ MORE KHALYLA: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khalamityk/ Tigerbelly Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UCIyIoM_Nd8HtY19fuR_ov2A  ______________________________________________________________________PRODUCTION: Production Team: Tiny Legends, LLC:  https://www.instagram.com/tinylegends.prod/ Stella Young: https://www.instagram.com/estellayoung/ Guy Robinson: https://www.instagram.com/grobfps/ Arielle Jade: https://www.instagram.com/jade.rabbit.cce/ Edited By: Case Blackwell:  https://www.instagram.com/caseblackwell/

This message is for the community of Los Angeles. It's to alert you that I will be doing a last minute standup show Thursday, March 13th, 8 p.m. at the Comedy Store in the Belly Room and you can get tickets at the link below or the link above but the Comedy Store website as well. And I'll see you there. It's gonna sell out very fast.

Thursday, March 13th, 8 p.m. Special guests. You guys, we have a guest that we have been trying to get since we started this show. She's been one of our most requested guests. She's my friend, okay? I've known her for a long time. And she has a brand new special that's out today on Amazon called A Different Animal, and it's probably her like 400th special at this point. Please welcome Eliza Schlesinger. Very excited to be here. Okay, there's a lot.

First of all, I need to know what is it like having a second baby? Are you thinking about it? I'm thinking a lot of things. I'm thinking one and done is beautiful, and I'm also thinking about other things. Yeah, is your audience the kind of audience that wants to know this?

Because I'm at a place in my career where it's 50-50. What do you mean? Where you get younger girls that are like, nobody wants to hear about your baby, and then you get men who never want to think about a baby. We get everybody, and don't even go there. No, no, because I want to tailor't even go there. No, no cuz I want to tailor my answer. No, no It's I often forget about my son

That's the real answer and I know it's like oh my god. There's such a beautiful blessings from God They I talk about Sierra and I'm like and Ethan of course who I also wanted and had He is I mean we have nannies, and so he's often just like tucked away. This isn't like British style where it's like, children should be seen, not heard, but like he's just so taken care of, and of course I see him and kiss him,

but like at the beginning, like a day would go by where I'd like see him in a hallway. I love you. You are, this is like the most refreshing motherhood. Having two nannies is so refreshing. But just being so honest and open about it, because I do feel like most people pretend that they're full-time moms,

and I'm like, I just left your house, you have four nannies. Here's the truth, here's the truth. If anybody is not losing their mind, it's because they have help. And I think people that have help, it's still very difficult. My heart breaks in half when I have to leave my daughter.

I love being home for her when she- Just your daughter. There you go again. There we go again. Yes! But you miss your children and having both of them is so much fun. The truth is when they're little,

they don't come online until around 10 months and prior to that it's just this like potato. What does it mean though when they come online? Like they start like knowing you and- He knows his name. He can't really, he doesn't, you know, like girls are faster than boys. But like when Sierra was that age,

like she was almost walking, she was cruising around. Like you were really engaging with her. She knew her name. She could snap. Like she could do like little tricks. And he's- Tricks. Little tricks, like little monkey tricks. And he's, little tricks, little monkey tricks. And he's getting there, but before that, it's boring.

Nobody wants to say that, but breastfeeding is boring and it's hard and some women, this is all consuming and this is everything and it wasn't that for me. And so I know how fun it gets. So I'm just waiting for him to get through this like first year before so we can like take it around. You're like a dad. Yeah I want someone I can throw that ball around with. I've just had so much fun with Sierra so I can't wait till Ethan has like really joined the team.

Oh this is so funny. Wait okay did you were you ever like it might just be one for us or? I'm one of those women who, in the back of my mind, I was always like, yeah, one day you'll get married and you'll have two kids because you were one of two kids and you'll do it a little bit later in life because that was normalized to me because my mom was not like an old mom, but she was older. She didn't have me in her 20s.

She had me, I think, at like 34. So that was a normal thing for me. I love that. For me, it wasn't so much my mom, but my dad was 44. And so I really wanted to be like my dad. And I was like, I'll do it then, which was a little delusional. 44, it's tough.

It's a tough choice. That was going to be pushing it. He's like, here's the difference between men and women. Yeah, I would have to learn that the hard way. But I feel similar. Early was never on the table for me, like early baby. I mean, it depends on the life. I mean, look, it's always the wrong time or the right time,

depending on how you wanna look at it. And I worked really hard in my 20s and 30s to establish myself in this business. And it's not even so much about like doing the things I set out to do, but just exploring life. Okay, you know what I'm experiencing? Do you have this at all? Like, I hope you don't, because I need to not,

I need to shake this. But at least the very first six months postpartum, I had all this regret of not having a baby earlier and hating myself and wishing I was that person that was like, oh, in my 20s, I knew. In LA, if you have a child in your 20s, something either went wrong, or your parents had a ton of money

and you were like, I'll just do this. Like, you, it's not something that you see a lot in Hollywood. All I can think of is Sofia Richie right now. It's like, yeah, okay. Yep, you had the time, you had the money. Kylie Jenner. And it's great to have tons of money and if you wanna be a mom, that's great.

But if you are the one making all the money and you don't come from parents who can establish you in Hollywood and you have to, these careers take 20 years to ferment. You've gotta ferment. They take a long time to get going. And so it wasn't like, oh my God, I don't, of course we'd all like to meet the perfect person

and figure that out, but it was never like a rejection of. It was just like, yeah, I'm doing standup. I'm on the road. I'm writing movies. I'm trying to act. I'm trying to do stuff. And then, and I just knew, I just always knew it would come around.

That's cool. And how is it then going from like being this like hard-working hustler career driven person to like being a mom? You don't lose it. Are you sure? How does it go from being like relevant and thin to like whatever is sitting here? Wait look at who snuck in and you have never find me to be more creepy. Oh she's growling. That was so scary. Because she look at her. Come on in. Do you have Belle's palsy?

Oh my god. Wait, hold on. Just stop. She has Belle's palsy. Don't growl at her. Hunter Hill, who opened, opens for me, he's alive. He got Belle's palsy. Really?

From what? I don't know. He just got it. And he went away. I gave him a line in my movie, and we were all set to film and he like showed up he was like this is my face and I was like we'll just do a voiceover. Yeah that's sort of where I was in the beginning just like drooling everywhere. Wait have you guys never met? No. Okay how have you never been on Tiger Valley? I've stopped admitting to people especially women in comedy if I don't know them, because people get so angry

at me in particular. Really? Oh my God, and I'm just like, I'm sorry, I meet like 50 people a night, like I'm at a club. People, they get very angry. That's unreasonable. It's unhinged unreasonable, but I don't feel, I don't know you, so I don't know your mental health state.

So when you walked in, I was just like, I'm just gonna pretend like we've met. No, no, no. And if she wants to tell me otherwise, then that's great. I would never be offended by that. Oh my God, that's so silly. I think that's because I rarely went to the comedy store in the 10 years I dated Bobby. So she was asking me, she's like,

don't you know she dated Bobby? Because Esther was asking me and I was like, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of girls floating around. Oh my God, so many. There are so many. And the girls do change a lot. To be fair. Yeah, it's a fast turnover girls floating around. Oh my God, so many. There are so many. And the girls do change a lot. To be fair.

Yeah, it's a fast turnover. I get it. But also, like, I just, I hated it there. I never. It's a vibe. It's like, is anyone else, does anyone else want to have a sleepover at the Addams Family House? And you're not the only one to say that.

It is my home, but most comics find it to be like an unsettling place. But why have you not, cause when I think of like the original like comedy store class crew, it's like you and Bobby are in that. How have you not been on Tiger Belly? I have no idea. I'm asking me, but I don't know.

I have no idea either. Cause I know you and Bobby, I think we may have, yeah, that's crazy to me. Should I call him and ask him? Call him. I'm just gonna give you some weird answer. No, he's gonna, I already know it. She hates me, she hates me is what he's gonna say.

I think male comics get really intimidated by me and I'm just like, oh, I've never said. I have one comic that stopped speaking to me and then he called me and he's like, do you wanna do my show? I feel like you don't like me. I'm like, you stopped, bro, you stopped talking to me. Like you walk in and they just like won't

and I'm just like, I don't know, I feel like I'm pretty cool with everyone I feel like Bobby is a type to create those stories um okay I'm here with Eliza Schlesinger and I was just wondering how has she never been on Tiger Belly yeah is there something there that we don't know is it, do you have a crush on her? I think she's a bit attractive, I guess. I don't have a crush on her, but I mean, she's a friend, you know?

OK. OK. Thanks, Bobby. Oh, she heard me just now? Esther did that. This is all, this is why you don't like Esther. I said I'm with Eliza. How did you not know that she was listening?

I didn't know she was, but now that I do, I'm a little, I'm blushing. Oh, so you do have a crush on her. This is making me so anxious. All right, okay, we'll see you later. I love you. I see Bobby like five times a week, by the way. Like I bring this man up, we see see you later. I see Bobby like five times a week, by the way.

I bring this man up. We see each other in the green room. Like, I don't think I do a lot of podcasts. You don't. That's why when you said yes, I was like, wait, you guys, what's going on? OK, let's look at these receipts. You often will ask me, you'll be like,

you want to do my podcast tomorrow? Can you come today? And I'm like, no, like I work. Like I can't, like I have like a functioning schedule, but you asked me with plenty of time. That's true. And so I always like, like it's a cool request. So, but I can't, it's rarely, you know,

it's not like we're going to get a pedicure. No, I'm so glad that you're here. Cause do you remember that you did my, my original podcast like 10 years ago, we talked about Yankee candles. Oh my God. No, but that sounds like me. Yeah. It sounds like something I would have been very into. What is the new candle these days?

What is the candle outside of like, what's that place on Larchmont? The $150 candle. What is that? Is that like what brand is the brand? Yeah. I think there's too many now. Like what's it?

Valu Spa? Yeah. Valu Spa is... Valu Spa. Is it Valu Spa? Valu Spa. I don't know. I like Vuspa.

I think they both sound weird. Voluspa sounds like a head sound bath. I like 1990X, which is brand new. That's the, I think that's the new cool girl candle. At the end of the day, like you just want a clean burn. A clean burn. Oh, you know what's a great one? I'll give them a shout out.

Dev Candle Co. They make my candles that I sell on tour and their candles come in gorgeous cement planters. Oh my God. I like a reusable, like let's keep this going. I like the idea of a reusable one and then I'm like, I can't get this wax out. I don't want it the other way.

Were you just in Tokyo? I was. How was it? Was that your first time? No. Or do you always go? I always go. Are you at Repeat Japan?

I'm always going to Tokyo. You guys have to go. I hope someone tunes in just there. Yeah, like, arigato. I was doing USO shows in Okinawa. I wanna go to Okinawa so bad. It's awesome. It would be, Okinawa is the best way to describe it.

If Japan had won World War II, this is what Hawaii would look like. It's the Japanese Hawaii. Wait, isn't it like a blue zone? Yeah, it is a blue zone. You. It's the Japanese Hawaii. Because it is an island. Isn't it like a blue zone? Yeah, it is a blue zone. You could go either way. I have to, a Japanese.

Yeah, you look part something. Wait, you could tell. The eyes. I wouldn't have guessed Japanese, but you're definitely not a white person. Really? Thank you so much. You're welcome.

We'll go far in Hollywood. Oh, she just has, she has like a look. I've never picked up on that. I'm impressed with your ability. I think when you're Jewish, you kind of always like looking around like who among who's I would you wish who's different? I know. I know you are. But I'm always looking I walked in the room when I'm on zoom calls, I kind of clock.

You're just always like who like me? Who will the Nazis take when they come for me looks Who looks more Jewish than me? But yeah, Okinawa is incredible. And so we did military shows. I do a lot of USO shows. And then you can't go there and not go to Tokyo. Right, right. No, Okinawa is a dream, just because I dive a lot.

Like I free dive and I spearfish. And Okinawa, they have those little like islets around. Who says that? What? You're saying that like I'm'm like, I go Pilates, I do yoga, I go spearfish, I dive. Yeah, that would be the part of the world where you could like do that stuff for sure.

I live on part time in Hawaii and stuff, but Okinawa has always been the one place where I'm like, shit. Are you a Hawaiian person? My partner is Hawaiian. Cause you sounded a little Hawaiian just then. I'm Filipino, that's what you're picking up on. Well, you are good.

It's island something, you picked up on the island something. I'm sensing something tropical. Do me, do me. You're Jewish, and your name's Esther, so there goes that. I'm just endlessly fascinated, and we're not allowed to talk about it anymore because you get canceled, but I love guessing.

If you give me your last name, where you're from, and it's just like a passion of mine. But also, maybe bring it back. Is it, I mean, is it that terrible? I mean, if you know somebody, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it's bad. I don't think it's bad. Because I, my thing is, I never was guessing,

but I always ask. I always wanna know. Always wanna know. And then I've like, then I hear it's like, people get upset. They're like, white people always ask me what, and I'm like, fuck, but I own it. But you know what you can fire back? You can be like, I'm Jewish. It's different. Nobody cares about that turns out they do a lot

I think it's in the way that you ask Yeah, if you told me your last name and I and I guessed you know Especially if you guess a small like a country that most people don't guess like how did you know and you're like, oh Then it opens up to me being like oh I used to visit there or my partners from there or it creates a dialogue versus me Being like yeah, but where you really? oh, I used to visit there, or my partner's from there, or it creates a dialogue versus me being like, yeah, but where are you really from? Like, that's not what you asked. Oh, that's true, yeah.

Where's your family from, or where's your last name from? Yeah, like if someone was like, oh, I'm from Eritrea. Like, whoa, so cool, the smallest country in Africa. Eritzia? Get a discount. Eritzia. Do you get a discount? Can you get me like a manager's discount?

There's always that thing too when someone says it and you have no context for it, like when you're drunk in an Uber and they say like I'm from Moldova and you're like dope. Like I don't, what do I do with that? The creepiest one is I don't answer that question for a specific type of person, which is usually like if I can sense a passport bro,

and if it's somebody who like exoticizes either a Filipino woman and they can sense my accent a little bit, they're just foaming at the mouth waiting to be like, Jollibee. Jollibee! Or like Lumpia or something that kind of connects them to Absolutely. Whatever bride they once had from the Philippines.

Oh my God, whatever underage bride. Exactly, and then it's just like. You picked up at duty free. Yeah. Yeah, I will say's just like. You picked up at duty free. Yeah. Yeah, I will say not being a person of color at all and being Jewish, like I am dying for someone to be like, you're Jewish? Oh my god, I love rugelach,

or like one of our like okay things. Does that never happen? Ever. We eat everyone's, like you get, Jews are like, I love Chinese food, I am dying for Chinese people to be like, we love matzo ball soup, and we never get it. Do you like Jewish food? What?

Ashkenazi, like European Jewish food? Yeah. I think we have some bangers. Like what though? Like matzo ball soup. That is a van. Basically chicken soup, I mean everybody's got the chicken, but chicken noodles, like that's ours, okay?

We can just squash this. You wanna protest about something, it should be that. Black and white cookie. That's Jewish? I always think New York, but I guess it's the same thing. Tell me the difference. Yeah. I feel like those are the big two.

Those are the big two. Like, lox and bagels. Bagels and lox, bagels. Bagels are ours. Oh, that's true. I love bagels, but lox scares me. I'm like, for once. That's fine if you're not, but like, those are hits.

Like, those are indisputable. Everyone loves those. And then everything else, That's fine if you're not, but those are hits. Those are indisputable. Everyone loves those. And then everything else, it's kind of like you eat it, because it's the food. My mom likes chopped liver. I'm not going to eat. Love chopped liver. Really?

I would never. Love anything more than that. But I feel like Filipinos are much more holistic in the food that you will eat. Maybe it's a little less, I don't know, Americanized. Yeah, I think we just consume every part of the animal. Like, you utilize all the parts. That's because you're part Asian.

Yeah. And Asians do not play. No, we have names for like- Eyeballs first, the fish. Eyeballs first. Now you learned, you learned. Eyeballs first, but even street food, if it's chicken feet, we call it adidas.

What do you mean? Because it's the feet of the chicken. You're like, do you want Adidas? Why is it called Adidas? Because running shoes, feet. Oh my god. And I thought it was like a word being interpreted. You're like, nope, it's after the shoe.

Chicken head is called like Walkman. It's just you just have your terms. Oh, because you're on your Walkman with the chicken head? How 80s? That's so fun. Not even Discman. Wait, did you know that you were like doing a whole life hack here by marrying a chef?

No, I, food is not important, I'm saying this to like a Filipino woman, it's not important to me in the way it is to a lot of people. It was important what I eat, of course I wanna eat well and be healthy, but like you're talking to someone who, if my husband is not around, like I will eat a bag of carrots and like three bowls of cereal. I don't get comfort, like everybody has things that they like to eat, but when I'm sad, I

don't have like my mom's meatloaf and I don't have, it's just not the comfort for me. I would stress eat something, but I met him and he always makes fun of me and I don't know. When I met him, he's like, I want to make you pasta. And I was like, okay, like I don't love pasta. I know, my girl card will get revoked. I don't love pasta, but he's like, okay, what kind of pasta do you want?

I was like, I don't know, can you do like, spaghetti marinara with like, a chicken breast on it? And so he made it, right? So no one here is saying anything, which makes me feel better. And me. No, I was about to, sorry. Okay. What?

What were you about to say? The chicken breast. Okay, Adidas. It is really. Yeah. Well, no,. It is really. Yeah. Well no, but okay, good. Just because I'm not a breast girl, like I have a dark meat. Breast over pasta is like just, you know.

So, I never thought about it, and like months later, like we're in love, I don't know if this was before after we got engaged, he was like, I didn't wanna say anything because I really liked you, it's different now. I really liked you, and he was like, that's a trash order. And I was like, what do you mean? He goes, like adding a protein to your pasta

is like a very suburban corporate restaurant, like add a protein. And I'm from Dallas. Like we have a ton of like Carrabba's Family Grill. Like I grew up going to like restaurant and corporate restaurants. And so it was very normal to me to like add a protein. And I was like, that's how you get your protein, I need to eat chicken.

Okay, so this is where I'm on your side. Pasta is not a main course. They say it's a side. In America, I think Italians would disagree. I don't know, because I think- Wait, pasta is a side? Think about it. Just think-

Is pasta a side? It's not, it's just a starch, there is not a protein. How would he have amended your order? That's what I'm curious. I think you just do like a beautiful delicate pasta or there's just different pasta dishes. There's chicken Parmesan, but that's definitely not what I ordered.

And that is like an American Italian thing. But I was like, yeah, I'm from like, I'm from like the biggest suburb ever. Of course I'm gonna add a protein for 5.99 onto my pasta. So he makes our food. Wait, now I have to ask the most important question so far is what cereal do you eat when you eat three bowls

in one sitting? Oh, it's so, like, this sounds like I have an eating disorder and I don't, but it's like a healthy, like, no sugar, like, healthy O's. Like, it's just like a pure grain, zero sugar. But it's, and I put, like, berries in it. It's not about the cereal. It's about what is available that I don't have to cook, that I put berries in it. It's not about the cereal, it's about what is available

that I don't have to cook, that I don't have to clean up. It's a big deal for me to take out a pan. It's like a girl dinner. If there's like feral girl dinner, like I just, I don't wanna clean up the dish. I was gonna say just because cereal is my, in eating disorder school we call it a red light food, like where you can't control yourself around it.

What cereal is it? Like Golden Grahams, for sure, I'm gonna go. Sure, but for me, literally raisin bran. Like raisin bran is- It's so good. Thank you! Because there's sugar on it. Yes, it's covered in sugar.

Two scoops. And it's like so crunchy and satisfying. I will tell you, when I travel, which is often in international lounges, they'll have a sad American section and there's always, first of all, we drink so much milk. When you ask for milk, they're always like, yes, in Japan, they're like, here you go.

I'm like, oh no, honey, I need milk. Bring out that cow, the amount of dairy we consume. And I need, and they'll have it on the buffet, they had it in Okinawa and there was a little thing thing of milk I'm like is there any in the back like I need I need to saturate it but there's always brand flakes and it's my it is a comfort food for me when I travel internationally to like eat them in a lounge it's so good and I bet that makes you sick to hear that she's like internationally traveling eating brand flakes in the lounge on the American

side yeah I mean I I think if you have a nostalgia for it, fine. I didn't grow up eating cereal, but I grew up eating shit that you wouldn't like. Spam. Like always fish for breakfast. Yeah. Yeah, which is, you have trouble with that. Americans have trouble with that.

In Japan, they do it. Yeah. I could get into it in another country. I did, I do when I travel. But around day five, like we went to Thailand, and obviously it's incredible food, but everything is wet.

When you eat Thai food, it's wet. The noodles are wet, there's curries, there's not like a dry, but they don't do like a lot of bread. I've never heard anyone complain about food not being dry enough. It's not a complaint, it is just something that I'm noting that their cuisine tends to be wet.

And about day five after going North Thailand, whatever, eating everything, in an airport, I was like, I need to get a fried chicken sandwich from McDonald's. Like I needed the crunch and the dry and the bread, just because it's what you're used to. One thing I do is any country that I visit, I always go to a McDonald's.

Because their menu is so different everywhere you go. Like in the Philippines, they will serve you rice with stuff. The Applebee's in Tokyo was the best salad I've ever had in my life. What are you doing? Was it at the gig? Is that why you went? There was no gig involved.

You were just there? Yeah. And you went to an Applebee's. Yeah. This is when you were on a wheelchair all around Tokyo? Yeah, I was in a wheelchair. I broke my toe the day before we left, and I couldn't walk. I feel like that's an accommodating place.

It's not. It's not? Well, like, getting on and off the subways was pretty hard. I guess accommodating in that, I think people would be kind. In America, we're accommodating because people will get sued if they don't have, like, ADA-compliant things. But I don't know. I don't know why you went to an Applebee's.

It was good, though. But why'd you go? We were at the airport. That's different. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know why you went to an Applebee's. It was good though. But why'd you go? We were at the airport. That's different. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I had the most exotic, not exotic, excuse me. I had the most elegant experience traveling from Tokyo

to the Okinawa airport. The little terminal we flew out of in Haneda had the nicest little ramen shop. And there was a bookstore. And it was just so calm. It wasn't like people screaming about check bag fees and like a Shake Shack. Like it was just, I was like,

I feel like I'm gonna make it. Yeah. It's in all the airports now. I was just in Tokyo a couple months ago and did I tell you this? How I walked up this shrine early one morning, I thought I was being extra ambitious. I went on a two-hour walk probably like a thousand steps came back and went to the bathroom okay into the shower washed my butt and realized

that I had not even just a hemorrhoid like a fucking anal prolapse from walking up the stairs didn't I tell you this the sweetest little pharmacy because I panicked I was like, oh my God, my asshole's on the ground. Typical American. Typical American. And I went in and I was like, oh my God, how do I explain to this woman?

Wait, so did your butt, the inside of your butt came out? Yes. At first I was like, oh, this is just a hemorrhoid, I can push it back up. No, but it was like, it was longer than that. It was like a little- But your intestine, yeah, your whole- My intestines were, and so I went in to this little pharmacy No, but it was like it was longer than that. It was like a little test. Yeah

And so I went into this little pharmacy and there's like a hundred year old lady who had inherited this pharmacy This compounding pharmacy from like her grandfather This is what she has to deal with and she looked me in the face and I swear I didn't even have to tell her She was like basically I got you she gave me this little tube of something and I have never seen even so much of an inch of a hemorrhoid since then. It crawled right, my asshole crawled right back up and I never saw it again. Oh my god.

You're like, assuming my son, you know my asshole fell out. Um, I don't know what to say. Like, as long as you are polite, like, they're down. Exactly. So once you play by their rules, they're down. That's amazing. I know, and I brought tubes back home.

Yeah, yeah. Because I was like, oh, everyone's gotta have this in their purse, I think. Well, I'll be waiting for mine for next Christmas. I have it for you. My tube. My tube of ass cream, of asshole injector. Yeah.

I really, okay, before you were here, I were here, I asked Eliza what it's like having two kids. And she said she forgets that she has the second one, which is kind of the most beautiful. I want to talk more about you being like. Let me just say this. What's so terrifying is in the word, obviously I really applaud how open you are about your asshole.

Thank you. Every woman has the line that they draw on certain things. Terrifying isn't the word. Obviously, I really applaud how open you are about your asshole. Thank you. Every woman has the line that they draw on certain things. I find that there is, it's difficult to discuss being a mom. It's not difficult. I mean, I'm a comedian, I can talk about it. People are just so ready to be angry at you for whatever choices you make,

and I'm so steadfast in my choices. So it's not that I feel insecure. It's that I don't wanna hear from a comment section why that's wrong, or oh, she's that I don't want to hear from a comment section why that's wrong or oh she's got help oh she must be a bitch she must like people just want it doesn't matter what you do as a mom people will think you're doing it wrong I'm ready to fire off how real that is and how I feel that and I'm never able to articulate it but it is like anything I want to share about being a mom then I go go, wait, well then these people will be mad

about that or even a positive thing. And it's like, well you, I don't know, just everything. And it's not even about, as comedians, it's not even about, oh I'm embarrassed, it's about now I have to deal with this unnecessary bad vibe. And if I do see that comment, or now I was a fan, now I'm not, and I'm gonna let now I'm not and I'm gonna let her know

or guys that are like disgusted that you did it and it's not about hurting my feelings, it's about me being like where the fuck do you get off thinking your opinion on the way I am parenting my child and being vulnerable and open about it fucking counts. It doesn't and so when I had my children, like I made it a point to always, to not make it look like I'm doing I had my children, like I made it a point to always to not make it look like I'm doing this on my own. Like I have help. It's help that I paid for with

a career that I built. But like we have two nannies and our kids are great because of those two nannies. By the way, I told Esther this today. America is the only place where you are somehow shamed for having help. Like I grew up with a nanny for me, a nanny for my sister, everyone having live in nannies. That's how every other country outside of America works. It's a whole village and there's always- We don't like childcare and we don't like mothers in this country. Exactly, you don't.

The whole country shits on mothers. Like literally, this is the country. If you wanna feel isolated, if you wanna feel depressed, if you wanna feel just horrible about motherhood, this is the place to be. Yeah. We have so much freedom. We're drowning in our freedom.

I really want to start talking about this on stage. Like the genuine ire toward mothers. And it's not just from like even down to the term like MILF. What is that? So to me, MILF suggests even though she is a mother and therefore her vagina might be weird, I still would let her fuck me. Like that's why it's cringey. So because otherwise you're just,

like I'm still a woman and you still would. And so you get that. If you're a girl who doesn't have kids, chances are, and I don't blame you, you don't really wanna hear about kids. If you can't have kids, you don't wanna hear about some woman's kids. If you're child free by choice, you feel shamed.

So then there's people have to have another layer to that and so but this all gets directed at women and we are not the orchestrators of this. Like we are just merely having our children in no receipt ever. Have I ever told a woman what to do with her body or what was wrong? Right. But the anger gets directed at moms because we are the ones who deign to spend time outwardly parenting and and showing what we're doing so it's all out there you don't make fun of dads because people don't want to come for men because then you know you might your school might get shot up or something but it's true it's always an easier target to shit on women or make fun of that celebrity mom because we talk about these things.

So I refuse to be shamed for anything, but I also am very aware that as a woman, whatever choices you make, you're gonna get shit on, and as a mom, you're gonna lose people. You're gonna lose fans that don't wanna hear about it. And then the women that do have kids are like, wow, she eats bran, which goes in the bloodstream. Not good.

Like, what the fuck do you know? So yeah, I have to say, a lot of the shame for me, it's coming from within, which obviously is a reflection of the culture, but I feel so much shame that I do need help. And like- What do you feel shame about? Okay, I'll tell you, because I think about my sister

and my mom, and I think about how they didn't have nannies or babysitters. They didn't help exactly Okay, I go I'm struggling. Well, they did it. Why can't I do it? So we because we had some help three days a week I had someone coming part-time and She we ended up losing her. She like got a job with her son. No, no We killed her you lost her to the post office. Yeah, she got a job working with her son. We're very happy. She got a government job. She gets benefits.

She gets Martin Luther King Day off. I'm happy for her. I miss her. It's been the most, the mother wound is getting me because I'm like, I love her so much. She doesn't think about you. Yeah. I know, I can tell.

These nannies are just like peace. And the attachment happens. Make 80 grand a year somewhere else. It's so deep. Anyway, so then we haven't had anyone. And guys, like, it's not easy to do it on your own. It's the hardest job in the world. That's why it's the hardest job in the world,

and it's so unrelatable. And that's why there's no empathy. Because until you do it, you cannot begin to fathom how spiritually, physically, physically, physically, taxing mentally, emotionally, and what it does to you.

And it's not about, because you were asking me about like ambition before, it doesn't take away your ambition, but you are tired. And it like refocuses things. It's not like all the things that I wanted aren't important, but it's important to see my daughter. And my son.

You just don't have like, it's disposable energy. It's not available. Like you just don't have, and also by the way, Esther, the fact that you think that just because your mom or your sister white knuckled motherhood doesn't mean like you should be a martyr to that. At all. At all.

Are they gonna come and like come for that child at 2 a.m. when they're crying? Like who does it help if you're extra exhausted? Like there's no mother of the year award. Yeah. Like spend the money. No, no one is judging me except myself. But can I say something? That's actually not true.

What you are, what is resonating with you is the comment section of our lives in the wake of, I guess the internet being established, but in the last few years and in this swing of people having to be overly sensitive, what you are talking about and what I am talking about is this collective conscience of people shaming you, small people who are nothing

but angry and jealous, their voice is being elevated. So you're hearing, you don't actually feel bad. What you feel bad about is that someone who has nothing would deign to make you feel bad about it. That's what it is. Interesting. We've all been subjected to this. Somebody who's sitting there with their thumbs

on their toilet that hates you for being pretty, which you are, and you have to get over it. Which, I've always said this, I'm like, Esther wishes she were uglier. I know, right? You're like, isn't that interesting? Like, no, you're just a pretty girl.

Not just, but you are pretty. It's all the have-nots that are always angry, at women in particular, who dare to try. And so they're sitting there with no child or they're sitting there with no help wishing they had these things and they're mad at you for what? Because they feel bad. Right, and it's like be mad at Kylie Jenner.

She'll never hear you. Be mad at your, at Gavin Newsom. Be mad at like your mayor. Be mad at like things that you can change. Be mad at your, at Gavin Newsom. Be mad at like your mayor. Be mad at like things that you can change. Be mad at your like local elected officials. Not some celebrity who's out of touch and not, and I guess that's you, your celebrity's out of touch. Oh, totally.

Wait, it is so refreshing though to hear this cause it's like you, you had your babies and you weren't like, I have to be only a mother. Like I have gone through this whole whole self-hatred thing of that and I'm coming out of it, but it's interesting, you didn't have that problem. I don't know, you say only a mother, and it is so complex and hard and earth-shattering.

And I really, I get why women are like, I do just wanna stay at home. Well, did you go through an earth-shattering moment after you had your first? No, it's been a transformation. It's been me every single day trying to reconcile and like put together like, who am I now? I'm still like funny and I'm still like driven,

but like the way that your heart expands when you have this child and the fact that I'm like, I'd really like to be there when she wakes up for her nap. Which prior to having a child, I'm like, who cares? They're napping. But like, and the fact that like, I really care about family events now in a way that I never did.

Like you're talking to a girl who like graduated college, like moved to LA, never went home. And it's just, you start to understand all the things your mother was always talking about. And I've just been like, it's like a face melting realization, like all the fears that you have and all of the truth. And this coincides with, you guys are younger than me, but like as we start to age.

We went out the other night, we went to a lunar new year party. How fun. Sorry, I should look at you. And it was great. I was like, all I ever want to do is be invited to an Indian wedding or someone's. Indian weddings really are a thing, though.

I was so exhausted. I was in New York for seven days, and I was like, when is this going to end? Did you go to the famous one? No, no, not that one. Oh, just the regular one. But the regular one also, they'll still shut down streets in New York.

And the groom is riding on an elephant and things are being, and it's a whole thing. We don't love the elephant. We don't love the elephant. I was really sad. I was just like, I was literally like, it's okay, put earmuffs on the elephant, it's loud. Do you get to be a princess when you get invited?

Like, did you get to dress up like an Indian? Yes, of course. Well, I was also part, I was a bridal party, yeah. Oh my God, that sounds amazing. I gotta get an Indian friend that's young enough that she's getting married. That's what I need. So applications are being taken now.

But I went to that, the point is I went to this party and it was on Beachwood and so we decided we had my daughter, Sierra, with us. This was the other night. And we decided to just grab some dinner on the way home. I went to this Thai place. It doesn't matter. I went to this Thai place on Hollywood Boulevard.

And we're driving through Beachwood. And it was like 630 at night. And I was having these flashbacks of going out on the East Side and how in another life, not that long ago, this is where we would have ubered to and gotten a drink. And I would have met up with some friends. And this is the time of night where you're still getting ready. Maybe you're about to go work out

and then take your nap and then get ready and how this is where we used to get fucking blasted and just be fucked up and go out and I'm like, instead it's 6.30 and I'm making sure my daughter eats enough of her chicken and rice at this restaurant where everyone there was totally on a sober date, like you're not eating 6.30 dinner on a Saturday in Hollywood unless you're like,

and I was just like, wow, and I'm like in an oversized coat and like making sure her seatbelt's on. I was like, the party is over. Like we're out in the party section of LA but we're just having a very sober dinner of like chicken broth, like it's over. Like there's no more fun painkillers to take, like it's over. Like there's no more fun painkillers to take, like it's over.

But couldn't it not be over? Like couldn't you still do those things, right? But you don't want to. I guess I don't want to. Yeah, you don't want to. I mean, I don't know about you, but like, I mean, I spent so much of my career talking about like going out and vodka sodas

and party goblins and like, I'm good for a drink. And then it doesn't feel great anymore. And it sucks, cause I would love that. Do you think that also maybe because you didn't have kids very, very young and you sort of did burn some rubber. Yeah. And so by the time, like even for you Esther, mid thirties, had a kid.

Well, you didn't go out to clubs either. You wasted your youth. I did. I think, well, okay. You had a kid. Well, you didn't go out to clubs either. You wasted your youth. I did. I think, well, okay. You had a TV show. I'm just saying, it's not like you were like, and I was just, you know, working at the library, just dreaming big. Like, it's, you were working. I definitely though feel like the party's over. And even though I didn't party traditionally, there is still a big the party's over, like cloud hanging over me.

But is it a I'm glad the party's over? It's a little bit of both because I, so I was a huge pothead for like the two years before I had my baby and the whole pregnancy, I'm telling you day in, day out, I can't wait to have weed again, I can't wait to have weed again. Like I was desperate.

Even when you were pregnant, you were saying that. The whole pregnancy. And then I had the baby and then I was like, oh, I'm good. That's right. And for so many reasons, like one, I was like, I'm good. And then I was like, I can't be not of sound mind. Like I'm taking care of this kid.

And then another point was someone was like, oh, well then like you'll be wanting to be high while you're with your kid, like looking forward to that later. So I'm like, all these reasons I just stopped. And to me, that's a little bit of like the party's over. I don't know. There's a lot of ways the party's over though.

It's, I mean, you can't just get on a flight. You have to consider this other person. I mean, look, there just get on a flight. You have to consider this other person. I mean, look, there's other ways to party. At least there are more adult ways. Like, we went to a New Year's Eve wedding and it was, the way that you party now as an adult, I like booked a town car. I wore a full length wool coat.

I got my hair and makeup done. There were girls there with like cracked heels and like jackets that said like Lakers on them. Like there were girls in like Patagonia's, like late 20s, like as you would, because you don't have like the nice things. And we were in bed by 11. Like there was an open bar like who wants shots?

I'm like, definitely not me. And I'm not dancing because I'm wearing Spanx. And it was just like, oh, mom and dad have come to this wedding. Like it's a different kind of party. That's true. And you can't be out past 11, because your alarm clock is not going to, your baby's not going to not wake up

at that time. Again, the nanny is there. True. Yeah. Someone just came in and handed all of us a banana. And I thought it was like, now it's time for a blow job corner, but you guys were just having some potassium. Like I thought this-

Thank you. It is potassium. That is why. Which we don't really know what that does. For me, because I have a heart arrhythmia. She's so cool. I'm coconut water and banana queen. That feels very Filipino.

That feels like your mom was like, have a coconut water. And you're like, okay. Honestly, if you're having like any type of was like, have a coconut water and you're like, okay. Honestly, if you're having any type of big emotions, have a banana is basically the answer. You know what, I believe you because I saw a meme one time that was like, I was upset and my mom told me to have a banana and sit outside. Exactly.

And I was like, that's true. No, it does help, I swear to God. You know what my mom always did was accuse me of being tired? And now that I have a baby, I'm like, oh, she just thought I was a baby still. Now, I don't know. Because when you have a baby, you're like, oh, they're tired.

Oh, you mean like you have an attitude, and she's like, you're tired. My mom does that for me. She'll be like, you need to eat something. But not too much. When I was pregnant with Ethan, I was so excited to drink Pet Nats, because sometimes it's natural wine, but little bubbles.

So not a champagne, but just little bubbles. And it's fruity and they're sweet. And I had the baby, and we went to Mexico City, literally three months after I had him, and I was pumping all through. I'm like, we're gonna eat everything. I drank it, I looked great. We came home, and we went to a natural wine bar, and I ordered a bunch of it, and the next day I was like, I'm like, we're gonna eat everything. I drank it, I look great. We came home and we went to a natural wine bar

and I ordered a bunch of it and the next day I was like, I'm done. I thought I could just pick back up. You wanted that weed so bad, I was like, I want this little bubbly wine and I just was like, I'm good. Oh, the desperation to return to what I once was was so strong and then you come out on the other side

and you're like, that's not there anymore. That person's gone. My podcast co-host gets mad because I eat in the microphone, but I agree. It's not there. You seem like you did not lose your identity at all and you're just good, but is that just because you're far out

from starting this journey? I think having helped, I mean, look, I had really horrible postpartum depression after having Ethan. My husband says I had it after Sierra, but I really don't remember. I cannot account for who I've been the last two and a half years of my life. I say things and they're like,

well, this is what you asked for on this schedule. I'll be like, I have no record of that. Even though that is my email, I don't know. And sometimes it's so bad and because it is so real, you don't know that that's what that is because you're just feeling so bad. What did it look like for you? A lot of it was tied to,

I mean, it's not gonna be relatable for everyone and people might turn off after this, but October 7th for most Jewish people was just an absolute horrific discovery of all the people that you loved and supported that you thought wouldn't hate you. Like turning around and being like, oh, you hate me so much for things

that I am not in control of. And then making a choice to be a person who stood up for what I thought was rational thinking. And doing it, I've always been the one that does that. And so I'm sitting there pregnant and then postpartum responding to people, citing facts. Like this has never been an emotional me being like, and I feel like this would be like,

here are the facts about this. You cannot beat up Jews in other countries because you don't agree with like just things. And it took a doctor, like a therapist being like, you are taking in a lot spiritually when you are just like an open wound. And because I'm such a fighter and because I build everything from scratch,

it didn't occur to me that perhaps while breastfeeding your newborn child, that is not the time to be fielding like Nazi propaganda. Because I was like, well, I have to do this because if I don't, I can't not. And that was really hard to just like process that. And you're so right that you don't, when because if I don't, I can't not. And that was really hard to just process that. And you're so right that you don't, when you're going through it,

you don't know that you're going through it. And that sucks. And breastfeeding felt really, really horrible for me. Did you have a DMER? What is that? Where it's like, instead of euphoria, you have the opposite, where you feel the dread and depression

and almost like this separation from self for a lot of women? Like it's like a sadness you feel when you breastfeed or pump. I guess it wasn't sad. It was a genuine, like I'm not a depressed person. I don't have depression. I think I'd be, I feel like it would make me like a lot

cooler if I had all these things, but I don't. And But I don't and I think that also make you not as good I think it gets glamorized in Hollywood. I do think people like they wear their issues and I'm like There's there's more to life than just like identifying with an issue. You're so right though It does get glamorized and I used to glamorize sadness and then I feel like I experienced real sadness I was like don't that's exactly right. Don't do this. I felt it, I felt true depression and I actually called a few of my friends who I was always like, you're a little annoying

and then I realized, no, no, they're not annoying. They're depressed and I called her and I was like, if this is what you feel like, how I'm feeling right now is how you feel all the time. I am so sorry that I secretly called you annoying behind your back that one time you were late. It also created this empathy of like if this is the heaviness that you carry, and there's

a lot of people in my life that have that, I got it. I get it now. But I would breastfeed and you're supposed to experience this like, oh, I'm connecting. And it would make me so anxious. I would pump and I would just store it for later because the hack is pump a bunch and even though it'll like really hurt your boobs, leave it in the fridge, give it to the night nurse, she'll feed the baby, you don't have to wake up with the baby. And so I would just pump,

but actual pumping made me feel I couldn't eat or drink or really have a conversation while I was doing it because it made me so anxious. And I would like watch TV and I would be like, you don't hate that actor or this show. You don't hate these things that you're reading. You are, you have to wait 15 minutes and then you'll be fine.

That's definitely DMER. It's that. Yeah. I have to tell myself like, no, you don't actually feel this way. You're not actually angry. Yeah. You just need to wait. It can even look like women feeling like they have to vomit.

Like they're so. I felt nauseous. Yeah. Couldn't eat during it, coming after it. Even water was really difficult. And it would just be me like, you've got to get over it. And then I was just like, what am I doing this for? No one cares.

My baby's healthy. I did it the best I could. I pumped. And then I was like, rationally, this is clearly a brain chemistry thing. That's any form of depression. This is our hormones and our, I was like, you are messing with it multiple times a day. So multiple times a day, someone's like taking all the

liquids and chemicals in my brain and shaking it. And I was like, this can't be good long-term. So I just stopped. That makes total sense. I mean, In case you, anyone out there feels that they need to do it for some weird trad wife reason. I think that there is a lot of pressure around that.

I think there is a lot of pressure to just like constantly breastfeed or do what's right or be a martyr to motherhood. But it's like, I think like I don't know then who said this or what researcher. But they said like the true the true marker or like Indicator that your child is going to be like a successful like human being is to see not their dad happy, but their mom happy Specifically the mom and I'm like, oh that makes sense because I think I grew up to be a very like anxious and truly depressed Teenager young kid all the way to, because I couldn't remember a single time where I looked at my mom and she was enjoying herself.

That's awful. And I was like, wait, I don't, my mom doesn't smile, she's constantly stressed, she's pressed, and I don't have a single memory of that. I would believe that, because we take so much from them. To be fair, and I never felt like anyone would judge me, I like to very much be there for women to be like, like anytime I see a mom, I'm like,

whatever you're doing is enough and perfect. Because nobody cares. At the end of the day, nobody is actually, if you turn off Instagram, like no one's watching. No one's watching what you're doing unless you post it. The other thing I think is like, if you're out there trying to be the perfect mom and raise the perfect child, like good luck,

because guess what, your kid is a human. And we're all bad. We're all messed up in a way that's different from that one and this one. Like there's no perfect formula. No, but that's the thing. It's like no one's expecting there to be it. But it is the society wants us to spend all of our time, mental resources and money trying to attain a version of perfection, even if it's just the way that you look or the way that you mother.

And while you are doing this, while you are trying to get to this perfect version that doesn't exist, they are doing things like taking away our rights to our bodies. While we are pitting women against each other, because this is all a female discussion. When it comes to moms and whose mom,

men are not in that discussion. It's just women shaming other moms and women and weighing in. And while we are distracted by fighting each other over things that ultimately do not matter, because there is no award for who breastfed best or anything like that, horrible things are happening. Your rights are getting taken away. Your mom wins. Yeah. She just breastfed me until I was three and a half.

Oh, well, that's a choice that she made. But you're so right, because I got totally sucked into to all of that, because when I I've had when I was at Bobby, I had two abortions when I was at Bobby. And because I was so public about that, it seeped into my mind that I no longer deserve to be a mother ever. That's crazy. You know what I mean?

Like it was such a huge guilt that I carried around being like, oh, like I can't even say that I wanna be a mom anymore. So I would constantly say on podcasts, I wanna kill my bloodline. I don't wanna have kids, I don't wanna do any of that, because I had somehow convinced myself I didn't deserve it because that's sort of, I was told

what a horrible thing I did. You got infected by like the outside. Male comics, male comics. That's like a male comic vibe, and they're like, yeah, bloodline, yeah, just like shit Japanese bloodline. British lords. I mean, I'm super pro choice. I have an abortion, I don't feel bad about it.

I don't ever think about like, what would that baby look like? I'm like, ooh. I feel the same way with my miscarriage, although it did change. I'm sorry you felt that way though. Yeah, pretty shitty. No, thank you, thank you.

That is a shitty thing to feel. I feel very strongly that like, it's not a baby till it's a baby I don't know. I mean, yeah, I Give you my miscarriage. We could get into like what's a heartbeat like we could get into it I'm like that wasn't a baby like that miscarriage is brutal. Yeah, it was I mean, I've had one and it's it's it's the expectation and you're all excited and then you get, and then it happens and then you, I felt dumb. I felt dumb for being like, I'm like,

how long was it not viable? And I was still walking around like, my baby. But then it like, one day you wake up and like, you don't even remember most of it. Was yours before Sierra? Wow. Yeah. This might be indelicate, but like my husband was out of town. I called him, I was obviously upset.

I found out at the doctor's office. Same. It was brutal. But I called him, and he flew home. And on his way home, he picked up orange wine and sushi. Because it's like, well, since you may as well. Aw, that's so sweet. There's always food.

There is always food. I suppose there's always food. Wait, OK. Subject change, but I have a question. Because you're sort of like the face of... You're the elder millennial, right? The special on Netflix. That is mine.

Gen Z has like really risen lately, like in the culture. Like, I'm curious, you're... They got older. Let's call it what it is. They're getting old. Your take on them, because I'm sort of over here like a Gen Z wannabe in some ways although less so lately but like Is there anything that the Gen Z's are doing that you're like? Oh, I'm into that or do you hate them like what?

Nothing will make you look older quicker than saying you hate young people Because that's ridiculous. I mean my new special which is out today on Amazon it opens with a monologue I wrote about Millennials versus Gen Z. What I put it online I come from a generation of comedy that does not put their comedy online and then like over the last few years That's kind of changed. So I put this on there and it went viral and it got Did a little so I was like, well, let's just put it in the special and it gets polished form Sorry, I don't feel like putting it recording it, but I think I got this new mattress, I'm just feeling so much better.

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One thing I do like about Gen Z, I'm always impressed by the content they make sense of humor-wise. Like there is a broader sense of like about Gen Z, I'm always impressed by the content they make sense of humor-wise. Like there is a broader sense of humor with Gen Z in terms of editing and timing and videos and like I feel like such a loser like laying there at night I'm just like, he was taking a shit and he moved it

under the pumpkin's man, like just. I think their love, their taste in comedy is at a higher level than millennial comedy was at that age at that time. And it might just be because more of them have access to share it because of the internet. But just the perspective or the creativity in a lot of these things, a lot of it is garbage.

But I don't know. I'm always happy to laugh at something genuinely. So I appreciate that. I agree with you. And I actually am surprised to hear at something genuinely, so I appreciate that. I agree with you, and I actually am surprised to hear a comedian admit to that, because I feel like most comics are like, all this online shit.

No, it's actually so funny. It is so funny, it's so good. But it either hits or it doesn't. You either get editing and you get timing, and I've seen videos that don't. That's something you either get or you don't. And the creativity is always impressive to me, from the perspective of, whatever,

the grapefruit not being eaten in your refrigerator, I sound so old right now, or the perspective of something other than the first person narrative is always interesting, or the way that they splice stuff together and it becomes a style, and there's the innovators and then there's the imitators, but I always think that's cool. Am I thrilled at you guys co-opting like everything Y2K and acting like you were there while also minimizing 9-11?

Not really. And I can tell you as someone who lived through it, it was all pretty ugly back then and I don't know why you'd want to bring back a lot of that stuff now. What do you guys think of pimple patches or their idea of putting out there the flaws? Because I feel like millennials always try to hide our flaws. I can respect that. I like that too.

And I just say one thing about Gen Z. I love how open they are about herpes. They won't love that in 10 years when it's cool, not cool to talk about it. And you're trying to like run for Senator. Wait, are they? I haven't. They are, they're open about all of it.

You know, the shit that we were just like so hush hush. We were even hush hush about HPV once upon a time. Like I remember being like, oh my God, that's it. My sex life is over. I have HPV. But no, everyone, I know everyone, everyone has it. But that's what I'm saying. Like now they're just so open and chill about it.

That's so cool. Yeah. Cause don't you remember a time where people were like, oh, she has herpes, he has herpes. Like it was like this evil. I envy the body positivity because it's something that we could have benefited so much more from. And it does seem like young people were like,

nope, we're doing this. And they're not letting fashion dictate it. They seem like a very depressed and anxious generation, but I'm glad that there is acceptance within. We don't have to hear the story now, like, and I'm gay and no one liked me. And it's like, actually, if you're straight, you're probably gonna have a harder time.

And the bot, like, I, sometimes like I do a double take, I'm like, oh, that model is not real thin. We're so conditioned to see it. These are very normal people. No, you don't wanna see normal people as supermodels. You don't, you want, I mean, that's what a supermodel is. But most people are not real thin. So seeing a girl who's a little bit bigger, that's a valid thing.

You deserve to move through this world in the skin you're in, not being told that you're worthless and a piece of shit. That sounds good. So I think that that's cool. And you see a lot of girls that just embrace that. And they're not doing it ironically. And I'm ugly and isn't this funny. Like they're like, no, I kind of like my body.

Part of that is being younger. I think when you're younger, at the end of the day, like it's still like, you're still young. Like your skin is still young. Like it's a little bit more socially acceptable, but I like that for them. I like how open they are. I remember when I was in college,

I remember this phone call with my sister where I was like, well, obviously I can't get a boyfriend right now. And she's like, why? And I was like, because I'm fat. And she was like, fat people can have boyfriends. Wait, OK, you know what came up recently, which I feel like you'll be into? Do you remember when the word conceited was weaponized against us as women?

Like, this came up on the podcast, if you were a girl who had it all and there was nothing to hate about you, it's like the Salem witch trial, they could just be like, well, she's conceited. Or if you had even an ounce of confidence, if you showed that you liked yourself or... Oh, when I was starting comedy, I got cocky,

and I was like, what's cocky about the fact that I sold out these shows? And I made it, but it's reserved for women. And the internet, so this, when you're talking about when that happened, this is before the internet was baked into everything that we do. The internet is dumb and the internet is largely younger people who are dumb and they learn a word

every once in a while. And a lot of it is like psychotherapy stuff, like Gaslight. Gaslight, yeah. I just knew that. And it's always frustrating when the internet rediscovers a word that you've been using forever and then all of a sudden, if that's so conceited, it feels like a sort of group thing thing and they're like, well, then this is what we'll say. And nobody really, it's like this harmful label that's just like a catch-all, but like

it usually does more harm than good. Yeah. When the internet learns a word. Cause then it gets applied to everything. I might be wrong about this, but I was talking to Rosebud Baker and I will say about the millennials, the older millennials is I think a lot of great dads are coming out of our generation.

Time will tell. Really? And I am worried about the Gen Z, the young men, only because I follow Professor Scott Galloway. But I do worry about the younger boys there. But I feel like, I don't know, I think that there are a lot of good dads coming out of our group. Gen Z, when you hear about what their taste is in men,

it's like, oh, they're going to end it for all of us. Like, if you ask a Gen Z what their type is of a guy, they'll be like, I like a guy that looks like he eats cigarettes. And it's like, oh, OK, maybe climate change is coming on time. Like we're not going to make it. I think men are kind of going towards more of the feminine. It's a fad. Sorry, I don't mean more of the feminine. It's a fad. Sorry, I don't mean to cut you off. What?

It's a fad. Yeah. Yeah. Which I only say that because it always swings. We see our politics swing one way and then the other and then you see, it is no coincidence that just as Donald Trump becomes our Commander in Chief, all of a sudden tradwives are a thing. And then what will happen is we'll swing so far that way as we did

these last several years with like being liberal being shoved down everyone's throats in a way and then it starts to swing so each and then we kind of never get back to center but the that look then all of a sudden girls are gonna get tired of that and then it's like well everyone's kind of feminized now let's all put on the Carhartt jackets and become this. And by that time, then they'll be older. I mean, if I think about what I found attractive at like, at the turn of the last century, right? Like I wanted a guy-

What a phrase. I know! You're like churn butter. Trying to sound so old. Like you're 90. The older I sound, the more people will believe, like, oh, she knows. But like a guy in like a studded belt, probably from Hot Topic,

that was wearing an ironic t-shirt. You liked that? I had one. Eliza. I am so much older than you. You're not. It was so cool. Oh my god.

I feel like that's fully swung back. That's done it ironically. They will not know. Going to a casualty show. And I also think it's the tales oldest time that the current generation looks at the younger ones and they're like, oh my God. You can see it quoted back to Grecian times,

like Aristotle being like this new generation, I don't know. And so it's their job to annoy us because they'll have their turn at feeling old one day and my daughter will be there to love you. Your turn is coming. Our kid's gen alpha. I think so. How old is your child?

She's 10 months. Oh, so she's the same age as my son. Wait, yeah, wait, how old is he? You don't know? No, he's 11 months. His birthday is the day after my birthday and my birthday is February 22nd. Oh my gosh.

We're both, me and my daughter both born in March. She is, I'm in the beginning, she's at the end. I love that. Yeah, because I remember I saw you the night before you gave birth, which was also psychotic. At the Ice House. No, at the Comedy Store. I did both. Right. Because it was a plan, I was in a, I was going to get induced, so I was like, well I'm not just going to, I'm not going into labor, so I may as well work. It's so funny, because the five nights leading up to my induction, I just sat in bed drinking boba, like upset and scared.

Because you hadn't done it before. Yeah, that's true. I had done it. And I was like, I know exactly what I will put up with and what I won't. I want to get out of here. I knew what I was signing up for, so I was like, let's shorten the duration

of this entire experience. So I just worked. for, so I was like, let's shorten the duration of this entire experience. So I just worked. That's so crazy. The night before, she was just doing sets. Esther, you were working three days. We were filming and recording. I don't know. I wasn't out at night the night before.

It's the night that's tripping you up that I was out at night when I should have been resting and breathing. The second time, I was just laying in bed and I was just like, I'm so bored, and they give you the drugs and you're like, and we're watching Tokyo Vice, which was like my comfort show.

Wait, I watched that. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. What a sleeper, have you seen it? No. Ansel Elgort fucking should have gotten everything for this. He speaks Japanese in it.

He speaks Japanese in it. He learned Japanese. I will say that I saw him at a party and he was speaking Japanese and I was like, whoa, that guy, he knows what's up. He did. And I don't think he previously knew. No, he learned it for the show.

Yeah, I texted my best friend. I was like, I'm waiting to give birth. Like, let's text. And she was like, I need to talk to you about gun control. And I was like, okay. And I was just like, it's not like the chillest topic. And then I was like in labor for literally like a minute and a half.

It was like two pushes and a douse. Oh my God. Wait, have you guys watched Severance by chance? Love it. But haven't gotten to the second season, waiting. I know you burned through it. You have to watch the recap otherwise, cause you will not remember anything.

Honestly, that show is so emblazoned in my mind. I loved it so much. Yeah, okay. And the cliffhanger at the end had me in a chokehold. Even though, yes, I'm going to watch all of it, I'm obsessed with the show. So I'm waiting to have the brainpower to watch it, because right now I'm fully depleted.

It's a thinker. And it's so good that I read for season two. And it was perfect, because they took such a break in between, obviously. So long. Usually, if I read for something and I don't get it, I'm like, well and it was forever because they took such a break in between, obviously. So long. I usually, if I read for something and I don't get it, I'm like, well, fuck you forever. And I don't care who got my part.

I still can't wait to watch. Wait, okay. Follow up question. Were you able, because I tried watching Severance like two years ago and I have to admit that this is not proud, a proud moment. I was like, I don't get it. And I turned it off.

And I was like, there's just a man walking in a hallway. This is so boring. But then I asked him, I'm like, don't get it and I turned it off and I was like there's just a man walking in a hallway this is so boring but then I asked him like what's the premise and then once I knew the premise I was able to so like I kind of needed Dave was like well yeah you're just but I think that's why I loved it because I didn't know the premise I went in blind someone said you have to watch the show so I did and then the payoff was so big well I'm waiting for that big payoff. I'm waiting to see what Keir is all about. Like I'm waiting to see like, what are they doing?

What is this important work? I hope it's not like a lost where you're just like, what? Are you one of those people though? Cause have you heard of like raw dogging a movie or raw dogging a show where you don't know anything about it? You just see something, you watch it. You don't look anybody up after you don't, and you just go to bed after you watch a movie, you watch it, you don't look anybody up after, you don't, and you just go to bed.

After you watch a movie, you go to bed. You don't, you do that. I do that, my husband's a, I would call him a cinephile and he'll be like, trust me, you're gonna like it. I'll be like, okay, I will watch commercials. I will watch basketball games and just stare at the in arena feed of like local entertainers.

Like I'm a TV kid, so like I'll watch it. Even if it's, I'll just watch. so like I'll watch it even if it's I'll just watch without like having to scroll your phone yeah if I put in the other room that I don't miss it if I see even like a familiar face where is that person from and then I have to look it up yeah and see what else they've been on do you do that I do that but I recently did actually I'm realizing I did raw dog a movie because Dave was like porn he was a porn. Watched the whole thing without my phone. He was like, do you want to watch this movie?

And I'm like, what is it about? And he's like, how about I tell you nothing? Because I always want to know what I'm getting into, but then I, you know, you can be like, eh. So I was like, okay, fine, let's do it. And it was this movie called Between Two Temples. Have you heard of it? Yeah.

It was like... I'm looking at you because it's a Jewish movie. Oh, I think it was something else. I think Jewish movie. Oh, I think it was something else. I think I saw the title and I thought it was something else. But anyways, I did raw dog a movie and I actually thoroughly enjoyed it. Which one? The between two temples.

Oh yeah? Which I'm assuming you've never heard of it. I've never heard of it. You should raw dog it tonight. Okay, I will. Get your husband or your boyfriend, whatever. I think the problem is I just options paralysis. If I go on a streamer and then I see the little blurb or the synopsis

It's I can then it it fucks my whole experience up and then I spent two hours just sifting through That is the program. That's the entertainment my husband and I it's just looking at the trailer for each thing Yeah, and then I just watch a rerun of Shark Tank. Oh my god. Same all day long. I love Shark Tank It's so good. Okay, but, okay, maybe you'll get this, maybe you won't. And it's funny, because this morning, I said this to my husband, and I was like, but I feel like no one will get this.

When you, YouTube TV, Shark Tank, if you record it, right? 2020 comes on after Shark Tank on ABC. So you watch Shark Tank, and it'll be like, coming up next week on Shark Tank. And then it has like the cute little trailer of like, we're two moms, we have cupcakes, this is a plastic thing. And then it cuts to the intro of 2020. So it goes from like, next week on Shark Tank,

coming up, a bride found dismembered, a husband nowhere to be found, were the children involved? And like the tonal shift is just so aggressive. From like a must have like thing to clean your screens to like a mom found missing in her own tub. Hands missing. I have a follow up question really quickly on the raw dogging.

So if you watch something and you don't know what happened or what the end was, you're not allowed to Reddit, go on Reddit or nothing? Nothing, or what did it mean? How did, you know, nothing, it's just you go to bed. Oh, see, I'm fighting you on that. I think raw dogging should mean you go into it, knowing nothing.

Yeah, it doesn't have to be a complete 360 raw dog. No, your questions go unanswered. Why would you, why? To eternity. Eternity? Eternity, you just say, okay. And then you come up with your own ideas about what you think the ending means.

No, I need to be told. And then you stick to that. Yeah. And also I can't be like, I've decided that's Tom Cruise. They're like, that's Scarlett Johansson. No, I've decided that this was a small budget indie, not Mission Impossible. But raw dogging is going into it,

and the duration of the film doing nothing, but after, I don't think there's a term for that. I don't think raw dog extends beyond the credits. I think we should try extending it beyond credits and just taking in the experience and then just going. Are you one of those people that runs marathons? No, but I am one of those people that has recently just, I don't do GPS anymore or if I get lost, I get lost.

It's just, it's where it's gonna take me. If you don't show up at our next recording, understood? Yeah. I'm not understood because you should know how to get here by now. Marathons, that's so funny. It's gonna take me if you don't show up at our next recording understood. Yeah Because you should know how to get here by now marathons That's so funny because it would that just seemed like such a regular like if you missed the meaning you're not going back for it It's over and I'm like, she's she's in control of something Like one of those like big puzzle people. No, I am but I spearfish so that's Fish if you guys want lobster, well, the oceans are shit now, but my lobster season is shot.

I can't get anyone lobster. Ugh, why am I even friends with you? Yeah. Just finding lobster goodbye. No one's getting it this season. I've actually never had lobster, so I'm good. What? What the fuck just happened?

Esther, what is wrong with you? I'm very new to seafood, OK? And you're not even allergic to shellfish. You don't even kosher? No, I'm very new to seafood, OK? And you're not even allergic to shellfish. You're not even kosher? No, I'm not kosher. Well, then why? I think it's like from being like Jewish funerals my whole childhood, and there being like lox sitting out

and me being so grossed out by the seafood. Why are you so upset at lox? Don't look at the two Asians. Look at me. It's like smoked lox. Like this is like one of the few things that like we have that other people want to eat. Okay, but fish and like a cream product is weird.

It is. It's weird. And normally I don't enjoy fish and dairy, but this one works because there is lemon. So the lemon, you need the acid. If you're going to, it's about the balance, the fat and the protein and the acid, you need the lemon. Okay.

And it's like, people are always, like other Jewish people will be like, oh, we gotta go to Russ and Daughters. I'm like, yeah, of course, but I would. What would you get? Would you do smoked whitefish? No. Oh.

It's cooked. It's not about raw, I like sushi. Okay, but you've never even had lobster when you eat sushi? Like a lobster roll? I would try lobster. I just, seafood is, I you've never even had lobster when you eat sushi? Like a lobster roll? I would try lobster. I just, seafood is, I'm coming around the bend to it late in life.

Like this is like, I'm in my thirties. So I'm slowly discovering it. Like I'll do sushi. I'll do cooked salmon. Why? Are you weird about types of fish too? Like would you? I just want you to feel bad.

I'm just making faces to see what happens, but I don't really have a horse in this race. Is it a texture thing or is it because it's from the sea? I was also raised by someone who didn't like fish and so I think that's a factor. We just had meatloaf and baked chicken and broccoli chicken cast. I didn't have a diverse palette growing up.

That's okay. Did you? Not really, but my husband always talks about, you don't normally like the thing. If you have the best version of something, you might like it. Like people like, I hate Brussels sprouts. It's like, well, they're actually delicious,

if not steamed and like shoved down your throat as a trial. So if you do get fish, I would just encourage you to go somewhere where they prepare it well and it's good ingredients so you can get, like you can really know what it tastes like versus like beer battered lobster and you won't even taste it. Make sure you have a freshly speared one.

Spiny lobster is very sweet meat. Okay. Compared to like main lobster. It's different. It's different. And then when you go for sushi, you know, go to a place where you can like actually, I am not Japanese or a food purist, but like I do get sad when I go for sushi and it's like a rainbow roll.

I'm like, why are we even bothering? Wait, really? Like tuna with yellow tail with the salmon. What are we eating here? I wanna taste the fish. I wanna taste the fish. I would say go to Studio City, go to the joint and start there.

They dry age a lot of their fish. Oh, that's right, okay. She's so not going, she's like, oh cool dry. I really think this is a place where you might actually enjoy more than just salmon. They have the oraking salmon there, but they have other kinds. Can I say something about salmon?

What? I don't want this. My husband does a lot of food research. He's a cookbook author. We do a lot of talks about sustainability in our house and aqua farming and all these things that I had no context for over the last, until the last few years.

But there are so many fish in the ocean and we only eat about five types. And so it is crazy that salmon is literally on every single menu in every single restaurant. And there's no reason for it. So like one of the best things you can do for the ocean, aside from spearing your own fish, is to eat alternative types of fish that are local. And especially invasives. Yeah, like when I spear fish, if I'm in Hawaii with my partner,

we spear a lot of this fish called Ta'apé and Tuau, and they're snapper but they were brought in they weren't when something basically they're invasive to to the reef and they destroy the reef so we shoot them a lot we also shoot what we call like a peacock grouper and the fuck did you say sorry I almost died I choked you made it sound so tagalog a peacock grouper and yeah it's grouper. A peacock grouper. And yeah, it's really, I mean, that we don't eat because it carries a lot of like ciguatera. How about the other stuff? Like have at it. I think in Florida they kill all the lionfish there because again, it's invasive.

That was the shark tank episode. They were trying to like get people to eat lionfish because it's invasive. Uni, yeah, urchin. Which you're probably not going to eat that, but people always eat salmon and like haddock and like pike, and there's so many other types of white fish, for example. What would your husband say to eat for fish? Look, not everybody can go to the farmer's market,

but he does. I don't think I'm gonna be eating anything off the coast of California for a while, just because of these fires, but he normally goes to this fisherman who goes to Santa Barbara that morning and they catch stuff and they bring it, and it's also about eating other cuts like a collar,

or just so people know this, like just other cuts of meat versus just a salmon filet. The other thing that he always talks about is one of the most sustainable things you can do is eat like bivalves, scallops and things like that, because these things clean the ocean. Yeah. And you can just harvest them, get them off of Malibu, go to the beach and get them yourself.

Do not. Not right now. Okay. Not right now. Yeah. But typically, there's the months of the year, they can have the moic acid, so they tell you not to pick them after May. You are obviously more familiar with fish harvesting than I am.

But I love what you're saying because it's true. In the coast of California, you can get yourself white sea bass, calico bass, sand bass, all so many different types of fish. You don't see it on menus. Yeah, sheep head. And eat, sorry, you're like, I'm just going to try salmon. We're like, here's the sustainable rock. Eating fish caught in the United States is one of the more sustainable things you can do.

I think that people, this is so not what this podcast is about. No, it actually is. What I think people think like, oh, I got my shrimp from Mexico or from Thailand. If you are eating US caught fish, we actually have some of the best regulations around these things. And also think about it, your fish is traveling from closer.

So there's less carbon emissions for that, or it's less freezing and stuff like that. So eating as locally as possible. But weren't we just saying it's toxic here now? Yeah. Yeah, it would. But it could just be US caught versus getting it from another country.

And also, mahi-mahi, you can catch that off of California. Yellowtail. I love a good mahi-mahi from the Cheesecake Factory. It's a really good meal for me. I want to ask you to ask your husband. There's this thing going around that a lot of the calamari we eat is actually pig butt and pink anus. I heard that.

Do you want me to ask him? Because he'll know. Yeah. And this American life had this whole thing about it, but it wasn't conclusive. And now I need to know if I've been eating like. You would know. I think it would say on the bag.

I don't think that they could actually. But apparently, because the consistency of calamari is similar to the rings of the pigbutt hole. Is this like how... It's not true. Just so you know. ...California roll? There would be so much pigbutt holes. But there are a lot of pigbutt holes. There are, but...

🎵 Oh my god, he's so cool. He's so cool. And then like I teach him stuff about like tinted moisturizer and like how I'm feeling and like stand up. The difference between a good crowd and an okay crowd. We that honestly everything he was saying about fish I'm super interested in just because it's like like I really this is something that I I I feel like no one actually talks about or knows I mean California water is like there's

so much good fish here even what he said like vermilion like rockfish or like cabezon all is good I can't even I'm like I'll never end if you are able to go to a farmer's market or if you're able to pick something else it obviously depends on where it's coming from. But even as I say, like farmer's market, and I don't mean to like get into something as is wrapping up, but like just talking about earlier, like the shame that you felt when you were talking about like having help. And then, you know, because your mom didn't even as I say, farmer's market. What I hear is like, not everyone can afford it. Like you're up on your end.

It's just like, no, but everybody can afford to make better choices in general. Everybody, I don't care if you only have three minutes a day, I don't care if you're on a budget, like there are options. And I think in our efforts to make sure that we offend no one, you end up saying nothing. Like there's nothing elitist about saying, I go to a farmer's market. I don't go, my husband goes, I'm sleeping.

I'm sleeping because I worked the night before. But like, you're allowed, I'm not not saying all your food has to be vegan and sustainable and vertically farmed in your house with your own farmer. But there are small choices that we can all make to impact the greater good. I like that. I think it's so true we end up saying nothing. I feel like the last 10 years I've

had no personality because I've been afraid of. You don't want to get canceled. Yeah, or just upset people. And you know what? That's also because've been afraid of. You don't want to get canceled. Yeah, or just upset people. And you know what, that's also because you're a woman. Men don't care. All your friends that have their podcasts, they say vile things and it's fine, but it's easier to call a woman to task

because we love to burn women. They didn't burn witches, they burn women and we love to do it now. And so. And on that note. On that note, watch my news special. Eliza has a news special on Amazon called A Different Animal and she also has a podcast called Ask Eliza.

Thank you so much, I was gonna forget. I know you were. I was gonna forget. I was gonna keep going, more of these hot takes about sustainable farmers. She also has a son, in case she forgets that again. Ethan. Yeah. He's gigantic.

Eliza, thank you so much for being here. This was so much fun. Please come back every day all the time. Thank you for inviting me. Thank you for the banana. Yeah. Shout out to our Golden Slugs, Chrysanta and Thomas. Thank you for your extra support.