Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Liza Treyger & Esther Povitsky are the Same Person

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Yay! Liza Treyger is hereeee to visit us in our latest slug den. Liza is a first-time, long-time guest & we had so much fun, just us gals. They talk celebrities, high school loves (yes again), Bobby being weird to Esther & Liza and much more!

Hi slugs great episode coming your way today with Lisa Trager So many laughs so many unhinged embarrassing moments We have a patreon and if you haven't signed up yet, you can sign up now at patreon.com Trash Tuesday podcast or the link below you'll get instant access to a ton of bonus content And we've been having a lot of fun with it. Shout out to our golden slugs Brandon and Thomas Also, I'll be at the Comedy Store again Friday, May 9th. If you missed, the last show was so much fun. We had Whitney Cummings, Brandon Wardell,

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["Dreams of a New World"] You can get tickets at the link below and thanks you guys enjoy this episode Guys we're coming to you live from where are we Kaila? We're somewhere in LA. We're in our displacement Yeah, but if this was in New York, this would be a 20 million dollar apartment. This is like the nicest. This is so epic. I think it's in L.A. It's 20 million dollars. No, I don't think that much. But we are so long overdue for our guests today for a thousand million reasons. Please welcome from her new special Night Owl on Netflix, Lisa Trager. Oh, my gosh. Yes. I'm so happy to be here.

I wear sweatpants on purpose. You know, you guys really lounge. I think you're like an advocate for a casual wear. Oh yeah, yeah. An advocate? Well, you're the person that I would see at the store dressed casual and being like, okay, okay.

This is allowed. You can make it work. It's comfort above all else. Yeah. Gen Z really kind of solidified that for me. I wear baggy pants and sweaters now and I'm like, I would never do this. You know what I can't believe?

My niece who's in high school went to homecoming. All the girls wore sneakers with their homecoming dress. I'm like, I did this on a red carpet like 10 years ago. And every, my mom was like, you're disgusting. But now it's cool. And I'm the old Lamo. No, you were ahead of the game. You were ahead of the game.

Do you remember when we saw each other for the first and last time? At the premiere. You were ahead of the game. Do you remember when we saw each other for the first and last time? At the premiere. Yes. Thank God for you. I went to the, I got to go to the party. What premiere? I get disrespected.

I get to do cool stuff, but I'm always just right below the line of too good, you know? I'm always in the same outfits as the extras. So I'm getting treated like even though I have one line or something, but I was in NOPE, which is a big deal. You were in NOPE. I got kicked by the horse. So quick scene, quick scene.

You know, I'm in and out. That's amazing. I got to work with a stunt team and a horse. But we met at the premiere. We met at the premiere. But even for the premiere, they were like, one ticket, not the party, no plus one. I'm like, OK, OK. I get there. I'm not on the list.

I have to, like, plead with them. I'm like, I swear I'm in this. Like, they go fine, no plus one. I'm like, okay, okay. I get that I'm not on the list. I have to like plead with them. I'm like, I swear I'm in this. Like, they go fine, but no party. I go, okay. And then you didn't want to go to the party. So you gave me your bracelet and then Javi drove me. And then he ditched me immediately. I didn't, I knew nobody.

And then I got bullied by someone who was there. Cause I got into someone famous, but I knew one person there. And so I cling to him. And then this other woman comes up and I go, Oh, hi, I'm Lisa. I'm like a comic from Chicago. She goes, Oh, I've seen you. I go, Oh yeah, I think at this other friend's house,

I remember being at a party with you. And she goes, No, I've seen you on stage like four times. You have a lot of growing to do. What? Someone said that. First of all, it's so crazy to have seen you four times. Like how? Obsessed, not.

Because this person's famous, so I would have remembered this person. Will you please tell us your name, we'll bleep it out. Yeah, it's. Oh my God. No. And I'm just alone at a party, and I just go, it's an honor.

And then I walked away. Can I tell you that. And then I just circled for hours by myself at this party trying to and no one really wanted it. I know you think that it was from the goodness of my heart that I gave you my bracelet for the after party. But I have I always have an M.O. And I knew who you I of course I know who you are. I knew who you were. I know you're very funny.

In my head, I'm like, if I give Lisa this bracelet and she makes it very big one day, she better let me ride her coattails for that note after party. It was an investment. It was an investment. I just thought you weren't a party girl. Like you didn't want it.

That's also true. That's also true. After the credits rolled, I'm like, goodbye. But that's actually so nice of you. It was very nice. That's a cool- Because I wanted to go to this party. Take my invite and go with my boyfriend. Like that's a girl nice of you. It was very nice. Because I wanted to go to this party. Take my invite and go with my boyfriend.

That's a girl's girl. True and true. Go with Bobby, please. Yeah, and he has a nice car, so it was exciting. And it was the Chinese theater. I grew up loving Hollywood. So it was a huge deal to me. OK, we have.

We have to let the people know. No, no, that we'll get to. But on this podcast, Brooke Schofield guests a lot. And she has this thing where she says like, oh, I have a rash on my finger. I just don't believe in that. And then we're like, we want to adopt that because we're hypochondriacs.

I swear this is going somewhere. What you just said about what you did at a party where you were walking around trying to talk to people, no one was having it. I want that. Like, I want to be so confident that like, no one's talked to me, I don't care, I'm just gonna keep trying and having fun.

Like that's how we should, could you, would you ever? Yeah, but I think what we are missing is that like true like sense of self. Like you know what I mean? Like I'm always- I wasn't comfortable, maybe if I was someone else, I could, maybe I would have comfortable. I maybe if I was someone else, I could have, maybe I would have bonded with some, but like.

But the fact that you tried is the win because I see myself there and I'm sitting in the corner. I'm looking at my phone. I'm like insecure in my head. Whereas you're just having fun. Like that's way better. Fail if you have to, that's better. Yeah, I wanted to see everyone.

At one point it was little Ralph Jordan Peele and Daniel Clio taking a photo and I wish I was ballsy enough to get in it and just be in the side corner. Because everyone was at that premiere. I remember sitting next to, oh my God. You were right, Bill Burr, I feel. No, I was next to Ike Barinholtz

and next to me was Riz Ahmed. Oh. Who was like my crush because I love the night out. Well yeah, because they put you by the celebrities. They forced, they gave me the ticket. They're like, get over there. Is that why you went home?

Because you had to match? Because you were sitting next to Riz? I had just, you know, I'm such a big fan of Riz Ahmed. And so he was next to me and I was like, oh my God, I gotta get out of here. I'm slipping and sliding off this chair. Wow. I'm sorry I didn't see you in there.

No, I was like so, I was like 50 rows in front of you with just randoms. I saw Michael B. Jordan, like everyone was there. Oh damn. I'm like you, I think celebrities are so cool. Okay, so. Well, I grew up in, we went to the movies every Friday. We got Us Weekly. Wait, what theater did you go to?

We went to the Morton Girl Bar, those four months, and we watched all the award shows. How dare you say movies on Friday and us weekly? That's my whole childhood. And we were like- Which theater did you go to? We went to the Evanston Theater. Wait, people should know that you guys are from the same-

I'm first grade, she was kindergarten. That's high school, right? Because you were, you don't remember this, but you were my kindergarten buddy. We like drew pumpkins or something together, I feel. What? But we, I think we like met in high school. Wait, OK. You were a cute little kid.

So I just can't remember you on the bus. We took the same school bus. Oh, I don't remember bus. To Devonshire together. OK. So we basically, K through 12, all the same school. Oh my god. Yeah.

We were in Godspell together. I was the only one without a solo. Did I? I don't even think I had a solo. You had a little dance. Oh, I definitely would have had a dance. You had a little dance. I definitely would have had a dance. You had a little dance. And that was when I was falling in love with dance.

Oh yeah, everyone was jealous of you guys making out behind the curtains, full hickies, lavender uggs. I was like this. Wait, something you told me at the premiere about Esther was that she always used to wear a ponytail. No, you always wear your hair down and the day you had a hickey, you put your hair up. Oh yes, that's what it was.

That's what it was. Yeah. That's humiliating. Yes. Holy. But you were dating like the hottest guy in theater. Thank you for understanding. I get it.

I wonder why you loved high school. Did it seem like she was like the in high school? Cause I know you want to go back and live there again. I had a crush on my boyfriend for literally a year up until, like I was crushing on him. I thought he was like a distant fantasy. And then when I actually got him, it was like, like I couldn't hit.

That's why I'm still not over him. Still drive by his house. But he, yeah, they were like making out and he was the lead in all the plays. And yeah, it was really a thrill. Okay, now it all makes sense. Really? While you're not over him.

Yes. Imagine just salivating over someone for a whole year. And they PDA'd that you guys were touchy. I don't remember that. Just making out behind the curtain. Which is like really rare to have that long standing crush and actually getting to be with him. I would sing a song about him in the cafeteria. I was obsessed with him. And then what happened was, do you know Bobby?

Oh no, he stole my yearbook, drew a beard on my face. So I told him that I'm like, I need a new yearbook. So they got in there like, you can't draw a beard and a dick on my yearbook. No, that's not cool. I'm just a girl. Like he, I got bullied. So Bobby was family friends with the guy,

this guy that I dated that I stole drive by his house. And I told Bobby that I had a crush on him. So I had assumed that Bobby told him and that told him that he was not interested in me. And so that was why, like, when I met him, I felt in my head, I was like, I have no chance. I'm just going to be like normal and treat him like a friend. And so to this day, like I always tell people,

if you have a crush on someone, act like you just want to be friends and that'll do it. And it worked. It's still, I think- But then, okay, please walk me down memory lane because I want to know what it was actually like when you found out like, oh my God, like we're actually going to kiss. We're going to make out this has been my crush forever.

It's so because high school, like your hormones are just like uncontrollably raging. He tried to kiss me and then I pulled away because I was so nervous and I didn't understand what was happening. And then I quoted Paris Hilton and I said it was maybe it was Nicole Richie and I said, fuck it, you're a hot bitch. And then I kissed him. Oh my God. You're a, oh my God.

And then you also eat so much Taco Bell, I remember together. You guys were always just eating Taco Bell and making out at these parties. Wait, Bobby Lee, not from high school, your ex called me and accused me of thinking Korean people are dirty. Oh, that's cause you said you wouldn't go to a Korean spa

because they're unsanitary. But I didn't know- And you'd rather go to a ball pit that's sky zone. I didn't say Korean spy, I said we spa. I didn't know it was implicated in calling it Korean. Cause it's not like you'd go to a Turkish bath or a Russian spa either. No.

Oh yeah, it's also just a little bit weird coming from you. Like you say you sleep on like a crunchy like bed with sand all over every night. Oh, that's true. Wait, do you have beef with Bobby? Oh yes, I do want to get to the Bobby. Bobby Lee, no. I'm in Chicago, what I'm 25, this is 12, 13 years ago.

My friend gets to host at the improv, the Schomburg Improv and it's Bobby is the headliner. Is it Megan? Yeah. So you know this story. This makes sense. This story. So Megan was, you know, at that improv, the Schomburg improv, and it's Bobby is the headliner. Yeah. So you know this story. This makes sense. This story. So Megan was, you know, at that time, I had this sense of loyalty.

I love Megan by the way. Where if you fuck with my, you know, it's an immature way to be, where it's like you have to take on all these beefs. And then Jade was the feature. They bullied Megan about her outfit. They did. And they were like, you shouldn't dress like that.

Girls don't dress like that. You look sick. Like she wore dresses and stuff. And Bobby was like, this is my were like, you shouldn't dress like that. Girls don't dress like that. You look sick. Like she wore dresses. And Bobby was like, this is my show. Like you can't come dress. You have to dress a certain way. Cause it's my show. And by the way, every time he has told the story

on Tiger Belly, every time I'm like, you're a dick. You're wrong. Like you cannot tell people what to wear. Yeah. And it used to be more like. And I think Jade and him piled on. Yes. They were just making fun of her. No. And I think Jade and him piled on. Yes. Yeah. They were just making fun of her.

So I'm also hearing it from one person, so I'm sure she's elevated it at times three a little bit. I'm like, and then they said this and she's on her. So like I was hearing the story being like these motherfuckers. But then she got a text being like she thought it was just from the sound guy going, we're all going to hang out after they feel bad bullying or whatever. And she thought she was just texting with the sound guy. But they were and Bobby were on the text and she wrote like,

they're uncomfortable to be around. I would never want to hang out with them. They need help. Like she was just like roasted them. And they were like, we're on this. And so I don't know if it was before after the shows, but so that happened. And then I just never I live in New York. He's very LA. So like, I just never talked to him or met him in my life. So you thought he was like this jerk? Probably. I thought he was a jerk, but I didn't act. I've just never seen him. But then at the comedy store, I'm

a grown woman now. That's like 10 years ago. Like, I don't give a shit. And so but he was acting scared of me. Because he was scared of you. And he came home that day. I remember specifically. But I'm like a young woman, I'm like, what am I gonna do? This is your kind of playground.

I have to tell you what he was like, he's like, babe, babe, he's like, do you know that girl I pissed off? He's like, she's in LA now. He's like, I'm so scared of her, she hates me. And for good fucking reason, I told him, it's like, look, like, yeah, that's what you did. So either you just like go ahead and say,

hey, I really apologize, that was bad behavior. I think he bought Megan a TV. He bought Megan everything. Like, yeah, we had her on our show and we bought her all these electronics from Best Buy to say sorry for that night. Yeah. But I didn't hold on to that, you know? And then, but he was always so scared and nervous around me us by to say sorry for that night.

Yeah, but I didn't hold on to that. But he was always so scared and nervous around me and I didn't know how to handle it. I'm like, you need to ground yourself and act normal. I don't know what you expect of me. You guys are, you guys are. And then we bonded at that part, you know. At that party. At nope. And he always gives me nice intros. I saw Bobby for the first time in like a really long time and he was really like weird. Like he was just, it was weird. And I know that everything's fine,

but like he almost made me feel like I chose a side. Yeah. And obviously we can cut this, but like. You don't have to. But like, I was like, there's, Bobby, there's no sides. Like I know for a fact there's no sides. And he just, he's like, yeah, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

But it just didn't, you know when someone says they're kidding. But he want you to quit the pod in that way? No, no, no. Him and I still like, I think it's more like, she's supportive of my new relationship. And that's the side he's talking about. But have you not seen him in a while?

No, and in fact, he goes, oh, you lost weight. I'm like, I was pregnant last time you saw me. Yeah, I lost a baby. And you are thriving. It seems like you really love being in the house with your baby. Oh. Or is that just the internet? I would say that the first year has been a wild

roller coaster of high highs and the lowest lows I've ever felt. Like the postpartum anxiety, but just also regular Esther anxiety, having to go back on my meds and going through that. It's been a whirlwind and also I completely lost myself where I was like, I'm not gonna work again. I was going crazy and now I'm like, no, that's insane.

Like I wanna do standup. I love this. Like that's like, that energy is just coming back to me in the last like two weeks where I'm like, no, I want a career. Like. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, but it's been like a fucking journey.

Wait, I wanna talk to you about, I wanna go back to high school. Or a theater teacher who can, can he just say good job to us? I'm like, come on. Why won't he give it to us? He won't. Do we have to win a Golden Globe?

He retired. Oh, I know he retired. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you feel like what kind of coach is the best kind of coach for you? Is it someone that never gives it up or is it someone that constantly gives you

like encouragement along the way? Oof, what a good question. I love positive reinforcement. I love it too. I need it, but I have to believe it. But I worked on one set where the director called and was like, hey, what's your vibe? I go, I love a compliment.

Yeah. And then I got that. And it's like, yeah, I act better when everyone on the crew is like, that was great. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I like that. But I'm very good at notes, because I played sports and I actually, I didn't know there was a skill, but I'm really good at notes.

And I will get defensive if it's like, I'm working with a close friend. So you're a coachable athlete. I'm very coachable. Well, that's a Mr. Ortman thing, is you have to be good at taking notes and you have to be coachable. We're the same person.

Yeah, I'm like, cause I want to be better and I'm, I defer to experience. Yeah. And I defer to good ideas and thinking about stuff. And I, oh, yeah. We absolutely came from the same school of theater. This is crazy. We're so interchangeable.

But also our art teacher in elementary school, do you remember Mrs. Smith? Like she taught me, both of them gave such ground educations where like, I know the basic painters, I can go to a museum, I can pick stuff out. That's what I felt with him in the plays, like the Ipsen and like George Bernard Shaw, Tennessee Williams, like he just kind of taught us

the basics of stuff in such a beautiful way. This is why teachers need to be paid more. Half a million dollars a year. Although at our school, they were weirdly really high paid. Starting was 89 grand, I remember. Yeah.

The photography teacher told me. Yeah, I don't know why. She did roller derby. Once I became older, I saw her at the roller derby and I was like, this is crazy. Okay, the weird thing is we have so much in common, but we weren't friends in high school. No, no, no, no.

Why? I was intimidated by you. That's what I'm saying. I was kind of a, I wasn't very Why? I was intimidated by you. That's what I was like, I was like kind of like, I wasn't very cool. I was friends with Alicia. Yes, and I kind of knew her through my Spanish class. And I remember one day, did I tell you this? Or you guys used to wear sunglasses.

That's what you said, I don't remember this, but. Okay, yes, this was you. I think I asked you girls once, why do you guys wear sunglasses in school? And you said, because we're celebrities. And I thought it was the coolest thing ever. It's so funny because it's so lame. But can you imagine?

Why would that a little bit like, were you friends with them? That's a little bit of like a mean girl. It wasn't mean. It wasn't mean. I was it was like I wanted to know. And I literally. But I thought you were super cool. I think I was like, I would sometimes eat lunch alone

in the college resource center or the library. Like I sometimes had to like go sit alone places because I had no one to hang out with. I would always go to the mall for my hour lunch break. Why didn't I get off campus? I don't know, were you bad? I had a lot of Saturday detentions. Okay, were you good Esther?

I was a good kid, yeah. I was just late. And then I started smoking weed junior year. You did? Yeah. See, okay, I was very good kid, yeah. I was a good student. I was late. And then I started smoking weed junior year. You did? Yeah. See, okay, I was very intimidated by you. You were a year older. What, at that school, there was never,

oh, I'm gonna try to be friends with someone a year older. But my close friends were a year older, Veronica, and so they all went to college. So my senior year was lonely. I'm so sad, because we would have had so much fun together. We would have had so much fun. But I never would have thought to try. I was like, even when I found out she was doing comedy and coming to town, I was like lonely. I'm so sad because we would have had so much fun together. We would have had so much fun. But I never would have thought to try. I was like jealous.

Even when I found out she was doing comedy and coming to town, I was like, I don't think we should book her. Like I was being crazy. I was jealous too. And you did another show and then people were like, she's pissed. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like it was like insane. And then we met up on the set of Adam Devine's house party.

That's right. And we were like, we just went. That's when we bonded. Yeah. That's so silly that you were like, that's when we bonded. Yeah. That's so silly that you would think you would be anything but friends. And you were like, did theater at college. I remember when I saw photos of you in the plays

or doing something cool, or maybe it was just a fest. Like you had red lipstick on. Okay. I don't remember. Wait, wait. Oh my God. This is blowing my mind. Esther with red lipstick. That's what the tinkering is. I was in a play. I was in a play.

But also acting. Everything you're describing is like, I don't know this girl. I was so much better and cooler in high school. I peaked in high school. There you have it. You didn't peak, but I was. Once I got to know you as an adult,

I was really shocked that you had never like, drank or done drugs or didn't go out. Like in my head, when I saw photos of you at the comedy store, I was like, gosh, she's out in Hollywood. You know, I think I was really shocked at like, oh, you just like to snack. Like sober snack, you know, that was like, that was shocking to me.

Yeah. Cause I had this vision of cool, like you're, you know, your PDA life. Right. Oh my like, you're like pussy getting pet at the theater party. You know? Like. Yeah. I remember I had a crush on someone in theater

and they found out and they were like, they were like I think they said about me that I was like too stupid. Like people weren't that nice to me. Who was your crush? I'm embarrassed. I can't even say it. We'd have to believe it. Oh.

And he was, they judged me and because I smoked weed. I went to one room. I thought they were judged by him too. He definitely, I was like his best friend's dumb girlfriend is how I felt, was my relationship with him. Yeah, there were dorks. But then we also, what I loved about our theater program.

I love him being embarrassed by our high school crushes. Yeah. I was, don't worry, I had a crush on him. He was like, I bet she doesn't even understand that word. Like everyone just thought I was like a fucking fool. And I do like that we're the most successful from our high school theater crew. Knock on wood, I mean, it could end at any moment.

But. Someone else could just pop up. No, well, no. Well, there is one girl that dated Leonardo DiCaprio, so she will be above us. Yeah. I heard, who else? Who are the stars from your high school?

It's us. Oh, and one of the racist people with the Greek last names that was part of Trump's first administration. Oh, really? Yeah, there was like some Greek guy who did bad things, but he was one of the fall guys. Can I tell you something really sad? So I made it to my high school on Wikipedia, my high school, like notable celebrities, notable people. And when you click on my name, it's Bobby's picture. Obviously. How rude, right? I was really excited. I was like, Oh my God, I made it somewhere. They

know who I am. Because I was a loser in high school. And then it's Bobby's like just happy face right there. Bobby is not in his notable celebrity of his high school. Why? But he's in mine, so. It doesn't matter. Wait, do you remember someone named like Rashad Mendenhall? That's, is he football?

He became a football player and then a TV writer. So he's, yeah. Oh, cool. But he might've been Niles West. There's also someone on the Minnesota Vikings, I remember. But that's it. Oh, nice. But I think we're like consistently working. Yeah. I think we had someone from, and Star Trek came from high school. I think that's it. But I think we're like consistently working. Yeah. I think we had someone from,

and Star Trek came from high school. I think that's huge. That is huge. Our town Skokie has a lot of history, sorted history. Like the KKK marched, and then there was like a hate crime murder of the Northwestern basketball coach. Wait, what was that?

I don't know that one. Oh, there was like a three day racist murder spree. There was like this Nazi. We were in the night. We were in elementary school. I remember being locked in because the shooting happened blocks from my home. Where were you, Esther? I don't remember this showing off.

It was me. His name is escaping me the coach. So I feel Birdsong Birdsong. But he did the killing. No, he was murdered in front of his fucking kids. But these people, this was like a neo Nazi situation. So the guy started at Purdue, killed a few Asian people. Then he drove to Rogers Park, killed Orthodox Jews, came to Skokie.

Jenna grew up. Oh, really? Yeah, killed a black man. And then he was on his way to University of Illinois to kill more people. And he was apprehended and like on the road there. Whoa. But I think he's just serving life for some. And then he was influenced by a guy who served time too. But you know, it was just this like racist killing spree.

He was like disrespected at these colleges or didn't get in or like was rigid, you know. Have you been to our town Holocaust museum? I haven't. It's really nice. I would love to take you there on a date. I've been to a couple of Holocaust museums. You haven't been to any of them

if you haven't been to the Skokie one. Okay. Yeah. And then we can go get bubble tea. Yeah. And pita in. Oh, but those are, that's our Skokie lore is the cry. The KKK march. The KKK. Yeah. And we have an award-winning library.

You guys do? I don't know if any more, but you say. It's a well-paid teachers and award-winning library. I took like sports marketing in high school. Our theater budget, like we did- Was this a private school? No. We probably did eight-

She's blowing my mind. We just had like eight plays- Public school, I don't know why. We had the musical, we did a Charlotte's Web where we then built a movable set and we traveled to different elementary schools performing Charlotte's Web. We had a black box theater.

I don't really understand how it works. Full costume shop, full stagecraft. Like I did curtain. I was like, it was, I can't believe it. And everyone should have this kind of education. And the teachers were so rich. Like the teachers drove in from like richer areas where they lived to like service us.

I don't know why. I mean, this is how the American public school system should be. We had the dark room. Like we- This is insane. I did weightlifting for PE. We had all these different electives.

I was actually a hero. This was one of my stories I still cling to from high school. Our teacher was like, hey, we did another grade. If anyone can bunch the bar 211 times, that's the record, free lift for the rest of the semester. None of the guys could do it. So I was like, I'll try it.

And he goes, well, I'll give you the lower bar. So he gave me a little lighter bar and I fucking did it. And I benched it 211 times and my arms were shaking and I was a hero and we got free lift for the rest of the semester. It was cool. This is so funny. My PE teacher in high school would just turn on

Billy Blanks Tybo. I love Tybo. And then leave the room. And we would just be like. That's really good. I am like, okay, fine. I love Tybo. I could still's really good. I'm like, okay, fine. I love Tae Bo. I could still kick really high.

Really? Yeah. He actually put out a new workout this year. He did? Yeah, it was like a big deal. He dropped it on YouTube because he had surgery. You know, he's older now. He is older now. And he dropped a new workout.

Is it Tae Bo affiliated? He created Tae Bo. Is it? He is Tae Bo. What is Tae Bo? Is it Tae Kwon Do Boxing? Tae Bo is Billy Blinks. Billy Blinks is Tae Bo. He is Tae Bo. What is Tae Bo? Is it Tae Kwon Do boxing? Tae Bo is Billy Blanks. Billy Blanks is Tae Bo. What don't you understand when we speak to you?

But it has to be Tae Kwon Do boxing, right? Yeah, that makes sense. I never thought about it. I never even questioned it. Never. Wait, so you can you can kick really high because of Billy blanks. Yeah, but I I love him. But I was on the swim team.

I practiced before and after school. Oh, my God, I was a swimmer. You were a morning swimmer. I had to. We had practice. That does not at all fit your like. I feel like your overall like slacker cool girl vibe. I know impressive. I always say like I would never I don't like waking up early and I don't,

but unless you're on a set or a flight, it's like if it's work or stuff, you gotta do it. Yeah, but swim team, like the people who, I might've like done this and that, whatever, but the people who woke up early and got to school before school started is insane. Did you do that? Yeah, I did two a day since I was eight years old.

And I did it all summer. We swam outside at six in the morning. Yeah. And then I taught swim lessons. Did you wear the softy shorts that said swimming on the butt? No, they had those. We had those in vikettes too. Yeah, we wore a vikette.

For just the first year. Wait, just, you guys know how cute these shorts are. Do you love them? Of course I love them. The relaxed lacrosse. Can I just say something about being displaced by the fires? I wanna say shout out being displaced by the fires? I want to say shout out to all the smaller brands who have just sent me stuff for free without even asking.

One of them is Relax Lacrosse, Matus, Wetsuits. The bigger brands don't give a shit about fire people. They will give you a sock. Everyone else, these brands, they're just like, what do you need? We'll send it to you. You have to buy the second sock. I know. It's been so fucking crazy, but. I love that brand of shorts too. So cute, right?

Kalyla lost everything in the fires. It is fucked. It is fucked, but. She's doing great. Yeah, we're doing great. You know, in the beginning, it's like, oh, we have too many donations turning away, but you know, it all sizzles down onto the next.

Yeah. And everyone is still suffering and like picking up the pieces. Yeah, I think it's just more like the sentimental stuff for sure that you can't get back. You're like, oh. Well, that's why I didn't get the people that were so bad. Like, oh, LA, those rich guys.

I'm like, I don't know, can we, so Billy Crystal can't be upset that he lost his home? Like, I don't understand it. I'm sure he had cool scripts, you know, that could have been in a museum one day. Wait, okay, tell me like more what's going on with you now. Like what's your life like now? I don't know.

I'm like, if we were like, let's catch up. Like, are you, you're back in, you moved to LA. I'm in the East Village living my Carrie Bradshaw dream. Like I skipped down my little stoop stairs. I'm a regular at my coffee shop. It's everything I've ever wanted. Are you doing standup like every night? Are you four?

Yeah, but I'm pretty like, since I can do it all the time, like I'm pretty adamant about taking one or two days off a week. Or at least if I have late spots going to dinner, going to a Broadway show, like I do try to make sure I live life. Wow. Wait, does your bracelet say Luigi?

Yeah, they get made for me though. Okay. My podcast listeners make me bracelets. This is Eat the Rich, I have Luigi, Luigi Forever. And then I have an SVU on Melinda's House, which is Melinda Warner, the Emmy. We call the morgue Melinda's House. Wait, and what's your podcast?

That's messed up, an SVU podcast. And you guys tour, like you guys are doing so much. We just did one in DC. That was wild. I just did a weekend in DC, boots on the ground. I mean, it's people that work in the justice department, the federal department. I mean, people lost their jobs. The audience was like all federal workers.

We talked to one woman after the show. She was the forensic pathologist who had to identify the plane crash victims' bodies. Oh my God. She looked like she had gone through that. It was like wild talking to her, young. She was only four weeks at the job. Oh my God.

They wanted to laugh. They were all like going through it. Their lives are unraveling in front of their eyes. Wow. That is, wow. And there's no hope, if you were wondering. I asked them. There's no hope?

Yeah, I was talking to the people that are in like the Justice Department and like government ethics and all these things and yeah, we're pretty screwed. Oh God. I'm like, is there anyone in the FBI that might revolt? And they were like, no. But at least it's only four years, right? Oh, we're never voting again.

Yeah. Esther, it's so cute that you think we're ever voting again. You come from Holocaust people. You don't have it in your bones that you know what's happening? You're giving me the chills. I, oh, what's your plan?

My plans, I'm going to Australia, New Zealand, hopefully in July. My passport says born in Ukraine., so I'm a little nervous. I'm scared when I come back, they're going to put me in like a holding in Panama or something. I have a pitch. I have a pitch. It is not that difficult. I'm from the Philippines. It is not that difficult to we accept everyone.

So if you guys don't smoke weed, but I know you're I do But they don't smoke weed. But- No, I do want to go to the Philippines. But our dollar goes a long way guys. Comedy is just sort of like finally coming around there. People are so funny. It's just the place to be. And it's an English speaking country. So everyone understands your comedy.

Maybe you can start a comedy club in the Philippines. Well, here's the thing. If you guys wanted to play not a small comedy club, but like an actual like big, big 5,000 seater, all my friends book the shows there. So. 5,000 seats. But no, but you could do it.

I'm telling you, because the standup comedy is so new there that they're like, oh, stand-up comedy we all go So it's like they don't necessarily like who sold out there So I could be the Andrew Schultz of the Philippines You really could be because they're just like yeah, they were doing big support of comedy right now Asia is growing in that way. We're all moving. Yeah Yeah, we gotta go I mean a part of me wants to fight.

Like my internal, like who I want to be is alpha, but right? Like I want to fight. Yeah. But I'm scared and I'm pretty soft. I don't want to leave. I'm not leaving. I don't want to leave, but I'm terrified and I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know what's going to happen. They come for like women that talk pretty early. Pretty early. They want traditional gender roles. Like it's all gone up. Like these guys don't like that they don't have like just a wife at home and they can skate by. I think it's what's enraging them the most. What's enraging them the most too is that as Professor Scott Galloway puts it, women are eclipsing boys in everything. Everything.

And they should join us. I'm passionate about this, because the one thing is like, these dudes are unhappy, right? It's like, oh, we're taking, they're committing suicide in high rates, like all this stuff. And it's like, yeah, you have to be more like women.

Yeah. Lean in. Like if you guys just leaned in to your feminine a little bit, your lives could be so much better. In the way that we leaned into our masculine with no problem. We're just like, okay. But they just don't, they don't, Verveera, they hate us.

They don't think we're cool. We're like losers to them. So they don't want to be like, oh, maybe that's a good idea. Right. Maybe I should, you know, I don't know. It's really, we don't have to do this. Let's talk about high school theater.

I love how easy it is though to hate women. It's just so easy. We make it so easy for them. Do we? No, I'm just kidding. Oh. Wait, what's this banana? What's happening?

Is this for your pornographic viewers? It's not, believe it or not. It's for your potassium levels. You just care about potassium? We start talking about politics, sweat, sweating, stress, hopelessness. And then we offer bananas. I did meet someone that's like an executive director at the Kevin Bacon Foundation. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

He's actually very philanthropic. I didn't know that. But do you hate him? No, we're like friends with Sose Bacon. Oh, cool. Yeah. So I met this cool woman. You guys would love each other, by the way.

You would actually really love each other. Yeah, you guys would be good friends. Oh, my God. Fun. No, her dad. Like, so I met this woman, Stacey. They're the greatest foundation, by the way. I saw him in Kira Sedgwick canoodling at a restaurant in the Upper West Side, and it was glorious. Did it remind you of me in high school?

Well, no, but my sister was with me. She's like, can I ask for a photo? I'm like, honey, we're in New. Did it remind you of me in high school? Well, no, but my sister was with me. She's like, can I ask for a photo? I'm like, honey, we're in New York. What the fuck are you doing? Sit down. No, you can't interrupt their dinner. But she said the antidote to hopelessness

is just like small community action. And it's like the only kind of way to settle from the macro hugeness of everything that's going on. Because it's easy to spiral because it's so many, so many people are affected from so many places and it is hopelessness. But also what about the fact that California, New York,

like we're in, like, aren't we safe here? What are you talking about? Like blue states? I hope so. I mean, I hope the governors fight, like the main people, like we'll see what happens. Yeah. But there could be a federal abortion ban. Like I'm I'm not. Yeah.

OK, let's go back to comedy. Questions. But that's what that's what life is now. It's like the smallest. So good. Like I'm enjoying my life so much. And then. Mm hmm. Oh, yeah, you just it all started cause of Luigi. Let me know how you feel after that banana. If the hopelessness- Bananas are my favorite fruit

and people judge me for it. You become a little bit more hopeful. Oh yes, I know, bananas are the greatest. Wait, do you have the bracelet version of my necklace? I do. That's- We're skokie, baby. You guys are.

Is it from high school? It's from high school. Oh my God! Where's the exact same person? It's so creepy. Yeah, wait, I went to the, oh, so to the movie theater, I went to, we went to Morton Grove to the movie theater. It was $1.50 and it was like older movies.

It was like three months old, four months old. Oh. Because we were just like, we were poor. Was it Crown? No. It wasn't Crown, it's the Shoe Carnival now. Okay. But uh.

We went to the Evanston Theater. Which was chic. Was it? Yeah, I only went when my friend's parents took me. We only went to the poor one. We went to the Pickwick, which was the poor one, a different poor one. The Displanes one. Okay, also you were raised by really old parents.

Yeah. My parents are 87 and then my mom's gonna be 80 this year. Wow. Kaila. There is something about old sperm, truly, I think. So my dad was born in 1924. Wow, you're the only person I've ever met with an older dad. I think it's just me.

The only person who beats me by like a year is Theo Vaughn. But my dad was born in 1924, so he would be 101 now. 101 this year. Yeah. Well, Esther knows my dad. Yeah. He would be 101 now. And so he. Yeah. Well, Esther knows my... Yeah. He would be 101 now.

And so he had me in his 60s. But I mean, you just met my mom. That's, she's, you know, she's young. But he passed away when you were younger. He passed away in high school. I didn't realize that. Well, that was right after high school. Yeah.

But yeah, there is something about old sperm and weird girls like us, I think. My dad's kind of a chauvinist. I don't know what the vibe is here. And the older they get, the more, like, what's he gonna do? Like, I don't know. I think there's perspective to age, hopefully. And so I think older parents, they leave you alone more.

They know you'll resent that. Like, they kind of... Yeah. I don't know. Wait, say more, because I'm sort of getting it, but I want to get it more. My mom just always said, she goes, we just always let you do whatever because you'd resent.

Like they just had life lessons of like how things work. My parents let me do whatever too. Like they were not strict at all. And I can't believe that here you were in my neighborhood with an older dad than me. Cause I thought that I had the oldest dad. And when I, did your mom ever do this for when I was little, she'd be like, just so you know, your dad is old,

so he's going to die early. And so then I was always scared of my dad dying. Well, my dad always had white hair. So I've been scared of him being gone this whole time. Yes, this whole time. Oh my God, that's honestly- On the verge of death. They should talk about this, Mark,

cause I don't know my dad other than being an old man and always having silver hair, gray hair. So I always thought- Oh, is that your grandpa? Yes, exactly. Yeah, and I would lie and say yes. Because I was embarrassed and I feel bad being embarrassed now,

but I was a young kid and I just didn't understand. I was embarrassed about having an old dad because everyone else was younger. Yeah, they just were kind of chill and they had to work. They were also just tired too. They were tired probably, yeah. They were tired in a new country.

But that's it. That's its own little micro trauma right there. Like thinking that you're you're just counting the days you have with your own parent. The guilt is real. I go home all the time. Like it's just yeah, the guilt is real. What guilt of leaving Skokie? Of not taking every chance I have with them.

Yeah, I feel that. Yeah, I'll just get like a ping and be like I have with them. Yeah, I'll just get like a ping and be like, I have to go home. But it's good and I can take a trip whenever I want. Do your parents come here now more? I would not be surprised if my dad never comes back. He's like, I think he's getting a little too old to travel and he will not board Pepper, their dog. Like this is the last two times he boarded Pepper, Pepper wouldn't eat, he had to be taken to the vet. He was like faking his own death,

like doing all this drama at the at the pet hotel. And so I have to go home and bring the baby for my dad to see his only grandchild. I don't board my dogs ever anymore. What do you do? go home and bring the baby for my dad to see his only grandchild. I don't board my dogs ever anymore. What do you do? I have someone live with them in the house. But my dad won't let anyone in the house.

Oh, OK, that's it's own. Yeah. And he won't fly with Pepper. No, I want to call and ask and say that you suggested that. Yeah, because that's the easiest solution. Pepper is familiar with a home, will probably not go on a starvation, you know. Hello. Dad? Yeah?

I'm with Kalyla. Do you remember Lisa Trager, the one who lives, she's from Skokie? Yeah, so. Okay, well, I'm with them. But we were just talking about if you'll ever come visit, would you, will you board Pepper? Will I board Pepper? Yeah. I guess I could, yeah.

Oh, you're lying. Okay, so I'm lying. Oh, well, what about, would you ever let someone stay at the house and take care of him? Who would stay at the house, Who? I don't know. Like a trusted dog sitter. Do you have a trusted dog sitter that you're like a friend? Yes, you.

Okay. You're just being fake because you don't want to be your real self. Okay. Okay, all right. I'll talk to you later. Wait a minute. What? What is this for? They were just asking me if my dad

was ever gonna come visit again. Yeah, you know how I feel about the dog. What? You remember when we went to Palm Springs? Yeah. They called us, they called up and they said that he's not eating or going to the bathroom.

Yeah. And I was very worried, it ruined my trip. Okay, so then you'll just never see your grandchild again? Well, no, that's not true. Okay. Can Pepper come on the phone? I mean, the only way I could come out is if Mom stays here, just so I come by myself.

Okay, all right, we'll plan this later. All right, say hi to everybody there. Okay, love you, bye. Wait, no, I get your dad. If my dog was not eating or just doing really poorly and boarding, like I could never leave the house. What if you had a grandchild?

I was thinking maybe they could find like a teen dork enthusiast, like animal enthusiast who wants to be a vet or something. Yeah, something like that. There must be some neighborhood kids. Or some senior dog, like, but on Rover, they have like a really good, like senior dog, like specific type of care.

But I will say this, I have a problematic dog named Julio. He bites everyone. No new friends wants to rip everyone's dicks off their bodies. I have lived an existence of never having people over, ever. Because I love Julio more than anything and I would rather just, I'm like, cater to his world. You don't want friends, baby, I don't need friends.

We don't need to bring people over, no one's invited. So that's just how I live my life. So I do understand what your dad is saying. Do you let any ridiculous things get in the way of you living your life? Yeah, my own personal struggles. They really stop me from achieving. Like what?

I don't know, I wanna like meet someone and date. And I feel like I'm really bad at that. When was the last time? When was- And maybe taking care of myself better in terms of consistency and like. Like in what way? I don't know, washing my face. Like taking it out.

Like clean, like self care. Yeah, yeah. Lotioning. Lotioning. Lotioning is very controversial. Maybe less processed foods. Maybe. Esther doesn't lotion at all.

I don't lotion at all. And I also. I've watched this. I don't wash my face either. Can we have so much in common? The world wouldn't be able to handle if we became friends in high school. It would be too powerful.

I know. Is this what Skokie produces? No if we became friends in high school. It would be too powerful. I know. Is this what Skokie produces? No, we'd be dead by now. Well, there were like, jappy, jappy girls. Yeah, that was not us. So we weren't like at that level. Yeah. But yeah, so I don't know what Skokie,

yeah, down to earth Midwest girls, close enough to the city. We were like the poor Jewish girls. Poor Jewish girls. That's what it was with old parents. Yeah, nobody wants anything to do with poor Jewish girls. No, I had reduced lunch. No one like that.

Wait, I had free lunch. We had free lunch on entry and then I feel like I got reduced or something. Do you remember that my mom worked in the cafeteria? Did I ask you this? I do. You do? Well, I remember her face,

but maybe that's just because I know her, but I feel like I do. She worked at Devonshire in the cafeteria. Did that make you really happy or embarrassed? I loved it. I literally walked in the cafeteria so proud to see my mom there. And you would tell everyone that was your mom?

I don't think I would. I think it's like people had to know, you know, but I was so excited about it. And I did, when I told my therapist that my mom worked in the lunchroom at my school, she laughed in my face because she was like, cause I was so codependent with my mom. Like it's like, of course.

Yeah, she, yeah. It's like a crazy thing to do if you're someone's mother. Is it? Seems nice. It's really sweet. Like I remember having this moment with my mom when I was 12 years old. My mom used to beat me like brutally.

She looks nice now, but she wasn't then. Like to a pulp. Like she would punch me in the mouth. She'll tell you, she'll get on the mic and be like, yep, I did that. Like I was in a different state of mind. Sorry, that won't happen again. Can we get her on the mic now?

No. But I remember having been a beat child Like, won't happen again. Can we get her on the mic now? No. Okay. But I remember having been a beat child and telling my mom, like, basically saying, like, I wanted her to give me a promise ring because I never wanted to leave her side. And like, I still loved her like a fucking puppy dog. I wanted it to be like, Ma, like, we can, please never leave me.

And I was beat regularly. So I know that feeling of being a young girl and a mom. Sometimes it's just overly attached, like through thick or thin, and thin or thin. Do you have any sad attachments? No, nothing made me happier than being home alone. Still to this day, it's my comfort. When my parents had plans,

ah, to have a blockbuster movie, a snack that's placed to myself, peace. I mean, that was everything. Really? Yeah, I just, I loved being home alone. I mean, we had adventures when we did stuff, but no, I don't think I had like full connection with. I mean.

Did you watch TRL after school? I have like a famous story that not only did I watch TRL, the Backstreet Boy video, The One was premiering. I'll be the one. And I ran home from junior high to get to the house, realized I don't have my keys. And I broke down our back door, the handle and the wood around it,

I broke it fully off, there was like a hole. I fucking needed to watch that video. And then I broke in and watched the video and then my parents were like, what the fuck? And we had to get a new door. Oh my God. I loved Dero. I love pop culture. I mean, that was such a sweet time in pop culture.

Do you remember when Tara Reid was dating Carson Daly? Yes. And she would come on and you would sort of like feel their lover's energy. That was so huge for me. They were like our Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. They really were. No, there must have been someone better.

Who was the cool couple at that time? Brittany and Justin. Yeah. I mean. But I was such a backstreet boy girl that I couldn't. I can't believe. That's actually that's why we weren't friends. You were a backstreet boy girl. That's't. I can't believe, that's why, actually, that's why we weren't friends. You were a backstreet boy girl, that's crazy.

It was Posh and Bex. I had a Spice Girls birthday party in fifth grade. Who was, what Spice Girl were you? Listen, Ginger was my favorite, but we had a redheaded friend, so I was scary. That's a both hour. At my own birthday, I couldn't even, and then I loved Baby, but our friend,

the youngest of all of us, so she had to be Baby. Who was the redhead friend? Oh, I, yeah. And then it was Posh and then Adina. No, she was sporty. We have to believe these names, I beef. With which one? She was mean.

She was really mean and then she had sex with college. I bet that was her dream. I know. I bet it was, too. Well, because I had a crush on someone in sixth grade and I ended up having sex with them when I was like maybe 19. And it was exciting. And then years later, I had sex with them again. And then I was like, I'm like better than you now.

Who was it? He was so high. I know. Wait a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, because I remember he came from Canada in sixth grade and he looked like Leonardo DiCaprio. He was like the hottest guy in our school, but on the low key end where it's like kind of the weird hot.

But also smoke got in trouble for smoking weed like in junior high. Yeah. Wait, you're giving me like a secondhand crush on him right now. I never even really, I've never spoken to him. He was your grade, right? Yeah, but then I got in a fight with one of my friends.

We were like 19, whatever. It was post high school, but then to get back at me, she fucked him. Wow. Knowing that I would care, but it's not like I would date him. And then he was like engaged. And then he ended up being at a bar I was at

when we were like in our twenties. And so we fucked again, but I was like, mm. No, I would do mm, I've advanced. He just wasn't. What about the first time? Was it that fun? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like a dream.

Oh my God. For me, but I'm just, yeah. Wait, that's so cool. It was, we would party. We went to like see DJs from Incubus. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a crush on a Puerto Rican guy named Gary

all of high school. How do you get the socks not to do this? Let me see. Like, I clean my socks. Like, why does that happen? And I pay, this woman does my laundry, like, what the fuck? How do I get rid of this? Are they?

Because these are nice socks. These are Dua Lipa socks. I don't want to get rid of them. But that wouldn't mean that they're nice. Yeah, they're just merch socks. They're not Dua Lipa socks. I don't wanna get rid of them. But that wouldn't mean that they're nice. Yeah, they're just merch socks. They're not Dua Lipa branded socks. That's so funny that you said that. These are nice socks.

I got them at a Dua Lipa concert. Are you sicko? The Kacey Musgrave socks are really nice too. Oh my God, I want them. They're really cute. Are they just merch socks yet again? Of course they are. Yeah.

I thought maybe she came up with a sock line or she saw the next Robert Kardashian. Wait, are you into the Cardassian? What's your Cardassian? Are you watching? No. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like, you know, burn them, but I'm not into them. I go through phases.

It's not like a hotel maybe, but like- Who are you currently obsessed with celebrity wise, story wise, pop music? I'm always Bravo, Bravo Bravo for Avernal ways. Okay. I'm watching all the time. I just watched Escape at Dan Mora and I loved it. I'm watching White Lotus and then I love Luigi right now.

How do you feel about Luigi is your answer? I just watched Escape at Dan Mora that came out in 2018, but it's Ben Stiller's directorial thing. Oh, I didn't know that. Blew my mind. I've never seen acting like this. This is the best acting I've ever seen in my life. So it makes me want to watch Severance.

Have you watched Escape at Dan Mora? No, but I did hear it was incredible. But Severance is one of those for me was my favorite show. I haven't watched the second season yet because I need full concentration because the payoff was so big at the end. It kind of just started like, I'm like, what is this? What is this? What is this? When you realize and it hits you

and then the final episode like chills. It's one of the best season finales, I think. I think the best season finale for me. Yeah, if you haven't watched the first season, like. No, I've not watched anything on Apple TV. Not one thing. I'm too overwhelmed with all the apps. I've kind of just not given that one.

I think Apple TV actually like curates. Like they actually pick wisely. They have really great shows. I know, but once I dive in, it's like, I'm running out of like lifetime. Have you watched The Baldwins? I refuse. You refuse? Sickens me. Why? I'm not looking at that man. Wait, watched the Baldwin's? I refuse. We refuse? Sickening me.

Why? Looking at that man. Wait, why do you refuse? I think he's an asshole. Like they're jerks. She's a fraud. And he did murder a woman. And I think I don't care if it was involuntary, like, fuck you.

You're not a victim of this and go serve some time. Really? Murdered a woman. I literally. And I know I love Luigi and it's some time. Really? Murdered a woman. I literally- And I know I love Luigi and it's very complicated. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I just wanna, I know nothing

and this is, I'm just curious to have this conversation. Like, don't you feel, and I might be wrong, like as an actor, like if someone from props hands you a gun, they- Of course, and I think the props person got convicted, I believe. I would think, yeah. But I would be distraught in a way that,

I mean, I don't think I'd immediately try to frame it as how hard it was for me. Well, no, but do you think you would be guilty of murder? I mean, you're right, you should fight the charges against you. He's just like a jerk. I don't think that. You're right.

I don't know if I feel that strongly about that. I feel like that's like crazy. Like for instance, when you were on set for Nope and let's say the horse. Kicked me? Yeah. You know there was a stunt horse, two horses. Really?

Yeah, there was the acting horse and then the athletic horse. They would have a stunt horse. But I'm saying like, I don't know there was a stunt horse, two horses. Really? Yeah, there was the acting horse and then the athletic horse. They would have a stunt horse. But I'm saying like, I don't think he should have served time, but I think maybe the way he went about it. No, I'm being too crazy. I'm being crazy. I like the hot take though. He just, like that voicemail he left his daughter,

like I feel it's always kind of not been, I mean I love all the voicemail. I love Beetlejuice, but we were a Kim Basinger family. Oh, same. As my mom calls her Kim Basinger. Well, that's why I didn't know how to say it because we call her Kim Basinger. But I know that's not right.

I don't think Basinger is correct either. Yeah, I got nervous. No, my mom is Basinger. She loves her. We, oh my God. The real McCoy. She's amazing. Yeah, so I just took her side. God, oh my God. The real McCoy. Like we just. She's amazing. Yeah, so we, I just took her side.

God, what a legend. And apparently I took your side with versus Bobby, even though you guys are friends and talk every day, but I am somehow in the breakup. I'm the one in trouble. That's why I brought a bra, like there's a show, Summer House, and it's about like sexy young people that live in New York,

and then they get a house for the summer in the Hamptons. And it's like about their party weekends. This is the one that Hannah was on. Correct. Yeah. And so there was these long-term friends, Lindsey and Carl, they ended up dating, getting engaged, and then a few weeks before the wedding, he dumped her. He brought the cameras in and broke up.

Broke up the wedding. Oh my God. So she's distraught, but then the girls are all sitting and Paige, one of the girls was like, who knows what's gonna happen? This could be the start of your story. You can meet someone, be in love, and be pregnant within a year. Guess what? That happened.

So summer house is starting, she's pregnant, and then Carl, her ex, is still coming to the house this summer. That's the season we're watching right now that just premiered. And all the guys are like, well, I wonder how Carl feels about... He dumped her weeks before the wedding.

Why does she have to care about Carl? Like what? And then she wasn't gonna stay for a party. He goes, good, cause I wanted a flirt. And it's like, she's pregnant. And he was just on watch what happens live this week, talking again, like, I didn't think she would move on so fast. Like no one even cared.

And it's like, you, I don't, what do you mean? Like you dumped someone, they get to move on, whether you still want them to be pressed for you or not. Like it's weird. It's so true. I'm so on your side with this. And so that's what's so in my head because it's just like, yeah, people get to move on.

People get to move on. If you dump someone, it's over for you. Yeah. As someone who's only ever been dumped. And she showed up to the bridal shower, like with flowers. And then 11 days later, like dumped her. That's insane. Did he say why?

They're not meant for each other. It was bad, but he also tried to frame the whole season to make it seem like she sucked, but she didn't. And so then we see him trying to like be Mr. Producer at not working too. He didn't want to be, I mean, there's theories in the fandom. But I do think that that's a pretty regular thing with men and women, because I think women, when we get broken up with or we go through breakup,

we suffer in real time. Like, we're not doing distracting behaviors. Like, we're going to wallow and, you know, just fucking die for three months. Men, they'll go fuck around, have fun, blah, blah, blah. They won't come back to their pain until a year later when the girl has already moved on and is thriving. And now they're like, I didn't think she'd move on so fast. Well, she dealt with her feelings in real time

while you went to go fuck around and distract and have all the fun in the world. And now look at you, you're lonely. It's lonely. all the fun in the world. And now look at you, you're lonely. It's lonely. I also, once I was dumped and I could not get this guy on the phone,

I could not get him to respond to texts. He was just done with me. But the second he hears I have a new boyfriend, he's calling, he's texting. I bet. It's just, why is it? And the same thing happened recently with my sister. Like they just, they're on top of the world

until they think that you can get someone else. And that was like years of sex in the city too. Like big just kept showing up every time Carrie was like feeling good. Why is everyone, why has everyone turned on Carrie? It pisses me off and I'm thankful that you said that. Oh, why? I think it's because people are scared

how much of themselves they see in her. So they wanna make her an enemy instead of realizing you're the dumb bitch. Why don't they like her? They say basically she makes everything about herself is what it is, Carrie's like, she's all about Carrie. She's a writer. No, she's like an artist.

She's literally the main character. She's a bad friend, she's clingy, she doesn't communicate like all these flaws. And it's like, yeah, you mean a person that's trying their best? Yes, yes. That's my new thing because I keep thinking about like, oh, how am I gonna not mess my kid up

the way I was messed up? And then I go, oops, my kid's gonna be human. And do you know a perfect human? Have you seen the movie Spanglish? No, why? One of my favorites. One of my favorites. Oh my God, Paz Vega.

Love her. Do you think it's Hilaria Baldwin's favorite too? Wait, why'd you bring it up? Cloris Leachman plays the grandma and then what's her name, Paz? Paz Vega, yeah. Is like the nanny housekeeper and they're talking and Cloris Leachman is the grandma and says to the woman,

and she has her own daughter, pause, and she goes, I live my life for myself, you live your life for your daughter, and they both blame us for everything anyways. Yeah. And that always stuck with me. That's really, oh, I got the chills. And I love that movie because she did not stay.

Yeah. She chose her daughter and she moved on and I'm like, oh. People say I look like the daughter in that Spanglish. Oh yeah, I see that. Adam Sandler's daughter. So cute. Revisit it. It's a great movie. I mean, I don't like that, you know, you know, Spanish woman made, you know, we've grown since those times, but still a really, really cute movie. And she is kind of the hero. It's kind of one of those classics where it's like the people that hire her are fools and she like is the one that helps the daughter of a self-esteem and is like changing the family

for the better. And is it T. Leoni who plays the, oh yeah, she's cringe, super cringe. Yeah. Yeah. Great movie. I like Adam Sandler in Sincere Rules and there's a sandwich that's amazing

and in the DVD menu of that movie, there was a recipe for the sandwich. Oh yeah, because they make it in the kitchen. Oh, another one that I revisited the other day that I watched, I was like, oh, this is by far my favorite Will Ferrell movie is Stranger than Fiction. I have not revisited in a while, but I loved it. I remember liking it.

It's still so great, you guys. Please see it again. Wait, were you in that, when you were in high school, did you watch that show, Rich Girls on MTV? Of course, I see it again. Wait, were you in that, when you were in high school, did you watch that show, Rich Girls on MTV? Of course. I could quote it. Oh! I know where they went to college.

I remember it so vividly. Okay, I just had to make sure. That was also like my Bible too. I loved it. Did you watch the Osbournes? Yes. Oh, okay. Wow, we really are the same person.

My super sweet 16, all of it. Yeah. I feel like the Osbournes and Rich Girls in particular was like, if you took those two shows, that's my personality. Yeah, because it was a simple life. We were older. We were a little older, but still, that was high school.

No, Rich Girls, I remember they were all sitting and they were like, I mean, we wear cargo pants for fashion. People in the Midwest, they wear them because they need pockets in the fields. I don't know if you remember that. Because that was so funny to me. I just remember being like, she thinks we like are, need pockets in the Midwest?

Like what? That's so funny. Yeah, but you know what I did, that didn't grab me, but it grabbed a lot of my friends was Harry Potter. No, I didn't like it either. I never did that. Yeah, my sister got swept by that whole thing. I watched all the movies. Yeah, I didn't like it either. I never did that. My sister got swept by that whole thing.

I watched all the movies. Yeah, I haven't seen them up there. In bits and pieces. Yeah, but yeah. Did you see Sunset Boulevard on Broadway? No, I don't think I'm going to. So I think I'm gonna do Gypsy with Audra McDonald. I really wanna see that.

I can't believe I didn't. But I've seen Omeri twice. I went to Death Becomes Her and I saw Cabaret with Adam Lambert and the girl from Moana. Wait, Death Becomes Her is on Broadway? Yeah, it's a musical now. It's awesome. I know this.

Starring Megan Hilty from Smash. That's like my favorite movie. Oh, same. The merch is also amazing. The pin set has the Semper Vira like S. Maybe there are socks, don't. Yeah. I bought it.

Did you see it yet, Death Becomes Her? The Broadway show? Yeah. How was it? It was so funny and the changes they make like make sense for the stage. Okay. But the songs are great and it's actually funny and the dancers are so sexy and then the set is so grand and

It's cool to see effects like so on a stage I've never seen such effects like I was curious how they were gonna make it I want to see it was really cool and everyone's really talented. It was awesome Wow Oh Mary's funnier if you're, but it's not a musical either. If you're looking to just like lose your mind, Oh, Mary was like, not just theater funny, like funny, the funniest thing I've ever seen. But are you gonna see Nicole Schurzinger

in Sunset Boulevard? No. Is it Nicole Schurzinger? Yeah. Where have you been? What? You don't know that? With the blood.

Why didn't I not, why did, how did I miss this? She, cause she played the role in London and then like won all the London Tony Awards, whatever they're called. And then now she's doing it on Broadway, but you're not into it. What's going on? Um, I didn't like the movie.

I guess I would see, I just, I would rather see Gypsy. You are not the same people after all. It's just too slow. I only like one black and white movie. Backstreet Boys and Sunset Boulevard is where, that's where we just go our separate ways. Yeah, I just don't care. I only like one black and white movie, Some Like It Hot. Backstreet Boys and Sunset Boulevard is where, that's where we just go our separate ways. Yeah, I just don't care.

And I'd rather just see Gypsy and kind of go marry again. But I do like Some Like It Hot. There's the hotel where Some Like It Hot was filmed. Yeah. It's here, it's in Southern California. It's expensive. It's so expensive. It's out in San Diego.

It's... Yeah, it's really nice, but it's expensive. It's really good. I've looked into it. Oh, you have? Because I wanted to take my mom, it's... Yeah, it's really nice, but it's expensive. It's really bad. I've looked into it. Oh, you have? Because I wanted to take my mom, that was her movie in Russia, she liked a lot. It just, we grew up on that movie,

but I was like, I'm not fucking taking them here. But you could go to San Diego and then drive there for the day, and just, it's worth seeing. I don't think they're ever gonna fly again, to be honest. Yeah, same. I'm shocked that you're not, yeah. You guys, we could talk forever.

Thank you so much to Liza Trager. It's really cool. I wanted to come do this forever. I'm so glad. You have to come back. It's why I did the trip, truly. It was, I built up the whole thing around coming to do this. Amazing.

Her special Night Owl on Netflix is so fucking funny and good. She's literally one of the best female comedians. Like if you ever get the chance to see her live, there is no one like her when she walks on that stage. Your standup, it's almost like if someone, when they just spoke, it was naturally standup. It's just, you just get on stage and you just talk

and it's funny with punch lines, but I'm like, what? It's just falling out, I don't understand. You're the kind of standup. Well, we're so different. We're so different. We're so different. Oh, this is another thing we were different. We were both variety, like 10 comics to watch one year. Oh yeah.

Do you remember this? And we got to do this showcase, but a bunch of the people were too famous to come. Like, so, so then the producers came to the back and they're like, hey everyone, there's less people here. So we can actually do more time if you want. And Esther goes, I don't want to do that. I've planned my set and I'll stick to my time.

And she said I stared at her in a way that like she'd never been, I was like, what the fuck? Like I just didn't get it. Because you wanted more time. Yeah, I would always do more time. That's a normal comedian. But you being like, I'm fine with six actually was just so mind boggling to me.

That's really funny. That is a thing I always, I'm like the only store comic that will like do 14, 20 seconds. And Bobby. Yeah. I do a little less. Yeah. I make up for people who run the light. Well, Lisa and what's your podcast?

That's messed up in SVU pod. And then I'm on the road. Yeah. A night owl. I'm not kidding. See her live. Where are your tickets? Glittercheese.com or lisa-traker.com or I have a link tree on my Instagram,

which is Glittercheese. One of my actual favorite comedians and we'll see you guys next week with a brand new episode.