Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Oops! All Standups w/ Rosebud Baker - Gabby Bryan - Stewart Fullerton

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:58 remember this. But at first, I like reached out and touched him. Wait, you touched him? Yeah, I went, I went just it like that. That's so pathetic of you. I know, it's really, it's really bad. That we've all moved on from the banana thing. Now that we know that. She's a grown woman and reached out and touched out. I touched it. This has eclipsed. You guys, we have a Patreon and we'd love to see you there. Go to patreon.com slash Tuesday podcast, the link below and unlock all of our bonus content. Right, Kalila? So much bonus content. It's where we come unmasked. You know, maybe we should keep our masks on.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I think we should. Listen. I know everyone's like, be your authentic self. No. Overrated unless it's a Patreon. So if you want to see us fully unmasked, go to our Patreon. We'll see you there. Why?
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm so glad you guys are saying. A really beautiful, skinny, pretty woman from Beverly Hills that I met when I first moved here was like, whenever your friends get divorced, first you ask, is it a good thing or is it a bad thing? she was divorced from two billionaires and later found out that she hung herself but she was amazing and so i take her advice she hung herself two billionaires and hung herself yeah fucking she yeah was that a good thing we're about that she did in that that is fucking chic sheik wait so is it the divorce is a good thing congratulations you've met him I met him and I love him come on welcome to the show you guys this is this is
Starting point is 00:02:29 episode is so long overdue in the making. I have three of my favorite girls, girls here today. We have returning champion, Rosebud Baker. Returning champion. And you guys, I cannot believe I'm in the presence of her book fully baked, which I cannot wait to devour you have to, is it available now, pre-order? Yes, pre-order. Yes. Okay, we'll have a link in the description. I'm so excited for this because I've heard little things about it and everything I hear. I'm just like, I need, okay, because your life is so. So. It's so weird. Everything about your life is weird.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And then we have Gabby Brian. Hi. Stuart literally do you have a last name? Because to me or Stewart. You know what's so crazy? Someone brought me up last night and just said my Instagram. And I'm like, what if I go Madonna of? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 With it, but I do have a last name. It's Fullerton. That's right. Okay. Yes. Stuart Poulter and Gabby, Brian. They're like, you guys are a duo in my heart. And we're a duo in America as well as Europe.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Occasionally you're up. This is all Oops, all stand-up comedian day. Oops. Oops. All stand-ups. That's sick. Long-time listener first-time caller.
Starting point is 00:03:39 By the way. By the way. Wait, I feel like your thing is that you're from the south, right? Yes. Arkansas even. So weird. It's weird. Nobody knows what Arkansas is.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It's the most random state. Billy Bob Thornton. Billy Bob Thornton is from Hot Springs. Bill Clinton. Not to brag. So hot. Shout out. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I mean, shout out to the administration. To me, to me, it's like both of you, Epstein files. Was anyone related to you in the Epstein files? Not that I know of.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Okay. Were you too scared to search? Really? I was too scared to search. I did not go through the Epstein files. I'm like, yeah, let's check. What if I find out today? What if me and Stuart are on it?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I would have probably been on it. I feel like. Wow. Like, they were mentioning random people. Bonnie McFarland's on it. Did you see that? That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Because she was on a flyer, on a stand-up flyer that like at the cellar. And why? I guess he was coming to New York or something. Epstein was going to go to the show. Of course he was a stand-up fan. That makes out. That makes me want to play it more than ever. A stand-up world is a safe haven for criminals.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Context for Rosebud, her grandfather was. A war criminal. Okay. I'll finish the sentence That's so chic though It really is chic It's like if your grandpa's going to be anything It's either a war criminal or and a pedophile
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yeah And or and And context for Gabby your dad is like a famous musician I was trying to explain it to Dave last night But your dad is Bon Jovi or something He's sort of he's behind him Okay he's just behind him He's the keyboard.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Keyboard. Okay, cool. That's something that guys will be really excited about. Guys love that. We have our resident guy. See? Yeah. My dad is a beautiful woman and he plays piano.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And you're just from Arkansas. I remarked it's all. My dad is dead. Oh. So you guys are close. He was iconic. He was kind of like an iconic Coke head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And my principal. My middle school principal. And then a Coke head. He was both? Yeah. Wow. Co-ceds really can. multitask. They can do it so well. And the thing about men is, I don't say a lot of nice things about
Starting point is 00:06:00 them, but they can hide a Coke addiction pretty well. And girls really can't. Girls can't. We share too much. Yeah. Really, does anyone want Coke and a lippy? People know. We're talkers. Yeah. Yeah. And you add Coke on that. That's fuel to the fire. Zip. Mm-hmm. Okay, wait, Rose, but I do want to talk about this extreme life change that you're going through. You're our first Trash Tuesday divorce. Yeah. Will you talk us through it? Yes, I will talk you through it. And he's the father of your child, so you guys are good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like you guys are good, right? Yeah, we're good. Yeah, we're co-parenting peace. I mean, we're co-parenting. It'll get peaceful. Okay. It's getting peaceful now. It was tough for a second there.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It was touch and go for a second there. Mostly because of me. I've got a little bit of a temper. No. I know it's hard to believe because I am so cool, calm, and collected. But I've got a little bit of a temper. there were things that were done that I was like, I'm going to rip your sternum out. But it was like, I'm like, okay, we're going to move past this.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I was like, oh, we have to move past. Like, I have to be cool with him. Right. You have no choice. The only way to like make things good for your kid is to be cool with their dad. And I, and also like, I am cool with him. Like, I was like, this is okay. Like we've all, you know, when you go through a separation, there's like a massive life change.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And I really genuinely believe that people are not necessarily responsible for their actions when they're like sad for like a second. You know what I mean? Like I'm like, so I just kind of gave him some leeway with that and was like, I'm going to like choose to get past some shit and then we'll be okay. You know? And we had like a talk. and I was like, I'm, I'm going to move past this. I want us to be cool. I can't be, I can't keep saying, like, I just want us to be getting along and then also be, like, furious at you.
Starting point is 00:08:02 You know what I mean? Yeah. So now we're at a place where we're, like, figuring it out. Like, this morning, I was, like, really proud of us. We had a moment that could have been messy, but, like, he gave in. And I was like, oh, wow, okay, cool. So, like, it is, it's hard. but um but we'll be fine i genuinely think we'll be fine you're making me want to have this relationship
Starting point is 00:08:27 with every ex even though i don't have kids with them yeah want them to be forced to like make compromise with me in the aftermath yeah i don't know that sounds so healing you should reach out to them send them a dog and be like this is our dog this is our dog yeah i'm just like a dog with one of my exes yeah 15 years ago the dog is 16 and every like you won't die and i'm like this is keeping me connected to my ass. You're keeping me in the past. Yeah. Go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Truly. Right. Joy custody. I feel like it would be really hard for me. I know you're as like a good parent, you're not supposed to talk shit about your other person to the kid. I don't think I have that in me. I promise you you would.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You'd just be like you would go, because trust me, I am. I did have one, one moment where I was like, I said some nasty. And then immediately was like, oh my God. and just like switched it up immediately. But like I'm like, I really want them to be good. Like I don't want her to not like her dad. And I want her to get along with her dad. And I want him to be in her life.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You know what I mean? Like I want them to get along. Yeah. So you just, you just go, all right, get. Like, it is so weird though to be like still married and have your ex and you be like, hey, can you watch so-and-so so I can go on a date? Like, can you, like,
Starting point is 00:09:55 it is so weird to ask your husband for permission to go on a date. Do you have to include that information? It's very Gen Zee. You don't have to, but, like, you know. You already know, you know? Because, like, the vaguer it is, or the more vague it is, the more you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:11 oh, he's going to get his butt wet, you know? His butt? His butt? Yeah. Yeah. What's he doing with his butt? I'm kidding. I'm just, I just think,
Starting point is 00:10:21 a funnier way to say it. But yeah. That's what I've said to him. I'm like, oh, you're going to go get your butt wet? He's like, in what world? Yeah. I like to throw things at him that like sort of confuse and offend him at the same time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Are you a child of divorce? Yeah. I've been through it. Also, my parents don't get along at all. Like, they can't be in the same room. So that's very boomer divorce. So you're actually doing a really good job, millennial divorce. Well, yeah, because we're all broke.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like they had money to like fight over. Right. We're just more chill. I think two comics, it's like, you know. At least Minow's also going to be a comic now. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Oh, God, no. That's not. No, that can't happen. Well, she's a child of divorce. The odds are. It's not going to happen. She's going to be a fucking scientist. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Yeah. For sure. I think it can't happen. What are you looking for now? I want like a construction worker that voted for Obama twice. I want like a man I want like a man man man You know what I mean
Starting point is 00:11:24 Who like makes a living And is like Doesn't have to be rich But like likes what he does And is like proud of what he does Even if I don't even understand it I feel like that is a really key trait that like us evolved women are looking for
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yes I want a guy who's like I'll handle it I just want a guy who's like Somewhere between an assistant and a boss and like switches up like when I need him to. Not a boss. Yes, like a boss sometimes and then an assistant at others. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Masculinity. I need both. I feel like you need a real Irish person. An Irish person. An Irish man. Yeah, like not in his, because I feel like Italian sometimes no, but a real one, like from Ireland. Hmm. Yeah, like Killian Murphy.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well. No? Well, he's miserable. He's miserable everywhere he is. Is he? I don't know. Have we seen him? No, I don't want that.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Okay. Okay, what's another culture? Yeah, you don't want like that. Yeah, let's go through it. Scandinavian. Scandinavian. What about a Viking? That'd be nice. They're getting their butt wet.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You love that. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I really don't know. It's such a, like, it's so exciting to me that you're in this new era. I'm really excited. It's so fine. I'm really excited.
Starting point is 00:12:43 We don't know what's going to happen. Like, I don't know. I want to, like, follow you around. I know, it's fun. It's exciting. I mean, he's, I feel like once the divorce is finalized, then it's going to feel like, okay, now let's get out there and be somebody. Why does that, because it's like, I always wonder when people say that, why does that matter so much? Because you know that you're ending it anyways. Yeah. You just, you need that. I don't think it, it doesn't really matter so much, but it is kind of like you, there's always like the threat of taking someone to court. Oh. And also I'm
Starting point is 00:13:17 trying to like give this the space that is respectful you know like a respectful amount of space you do already have viral clips about your divorce yes yeah I do obviously yeah that's necessary I have written jokes about it well you're not some reason I have written some jokes about it yeah and about his choices in women afterwards and things like oh god where can we see those clips I will send them to you I'm going to leave the ones about I'm leaving women out of it I don't want to like you I'm trying not to like mess with the women. Really? But that's the best part.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I want the tea. I know. I know. I will give you the tea, but it's depressing. It's depressing. Okay. Oh no, I'm foaming at the mouth for the tea. Are you guys single? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Do you relate to the quality
Starting point is 00:14:08 that she's looking for in a partner of like construction worker? Or like union. Yeah. Is that a child to be sexually assaulted? Any of you? Again? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah. No, I get the idea of we all, because we have sort of a masculine job, if you will, we need like an ultraman. Ultra man. Just sort of, like, I want someone to grab me by the scruff of my neck and like lock me in a basement. Yeah. Do you know what you mean? I like your marriage, though. You do have a good one.
Starting point is 00:14:34 But is it not even a marriage? No, yeah. We're married. Oh, Mary, yeah. I like that you guys do your, I need what you have. It's like you do your own things. Yeah. You like are so.
Starting point is 00:14:44 independent but still so united you know i found that i was looking for when i was younger and stupider that i was looking for like we're like this and he serves my every need and like that was crazy yeah and made all the relationships bad and then he had boundaries and that like i learned that like you don't get all your needs met from your partner and so what's dave's sign he is a gemini Gemini. Yes. Okay. Okay, this is interesting to me. Why? I have been going on a lot of dates with a Gemini. I'm a Gemini. But a woman. My best friend, my female best friend is a Gemini. So it's fine. It's fun. Yeah. But I've been interested in a Gemini man and my best friend is also married to a Gemini. What are you? I'm a Pisces. Me too. I'm Pisces too. Really? Yeah. Scary. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah. That's actually, you guys want to cry? That's actually bad for us. We should have be together. Oh, really? But we only see two. I love. like every six months minimum. We're just emotional. That's why we're all connected. Yeah. And obviously, storage is a Gemini.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm a Gemini, but I love Pisces. I do. Pisces. Yeah. I love that. That's such a Gemini move to like make up a word for us.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah. Yeah. Wait, when's your birthday? March 16th. Mine's March 10th. March 2nd. March girls.
Starting point is 00:16:05 The March sisters. The March sisters. The March sisters. I think this is why a Gemini is maybe good. You should be writing this down. Maybe a Gemini is good for us is because they're a little like doing their own thing on their own. Yeah. I can't be with a Gemini.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Why? I was with a Gemini. I was like really not into it. What was the issue? I think I was just like really bored. I was really bored. I know. Really?
Starting point is 00:16:32 We're so not boring. No, I mean, he wasn't boring, but I remember like walking back from like we both finished work at the same time. We were like on the subway. We get off the subway and he's like, so how was your day? And I was like, is this what this is going to be Rosewood you're crazy you're crazy for that
Starting point is 00:16:49 I was like I'm so you I was like is this all it's going to be forever this how there is? Like how is your day and how is my day and I'm so bored I literally live I sit there and live to be asked how was my day and to ask him how was his day
Starting point is 00:17:05 every detail I relate to this so much I don't want any of that I don't need I don't want to know how your day was I want to get fucked like six ways from Sunday and then just fall asleep. That's all I want. Your daughter is outside. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's important that she knows that it's fine to do that as a woman. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, I love it. No, I want to talk and talk and talk and talk. Yeah, I don't, I'll talk after after I get railed. But I don't want to like, I don't want to talk about how my day was. You know, I don't want to like give the rundown of the day.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Right. I mean, I've already forgotten. Have you already had like SEX with new people? What is with SEX and butt wet? Like, yeah, the kids are not here getting her butts wet.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Have I gotten my butt wet? Is that what you're asking? Yeah. I have. Yeah. Yes, I have. Oh my, was it good? Only once? It was fantastic. Yeah. It was fantastic. Yeah. It was fantastic. Oh, my God. It was really good. Did it shed a lot of light on the situation where we were like, oh, I haven't been getting got like this?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. Mm-hmm. It did. But it's also like someone that I know and that I've known for a long time that, you know, like. We've all got that person that you're like, I can't be in the same room as that person or I will fuck them. It was Kalila. It was why she's not here. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah. I was like, please get her out. Everybody's got that person that you're like, I just can't even. You know what I mean? Yeah. For me, it's my dog. Yeah, yeah. Don't fuck your dog seriously.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You get right in there. Yeah, it was good though. I was like, whoa, this is fucking crazy. And what was his sign? Do we know? He's a Scorpio. Lo. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Dark, right. I have like four or five different things in Scorpio. So, like, I do love a Scorpio. I have Scorpio. Scorpio Rising. So does Minnow. Oh, my God. Me and Minnow connected.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah, no, she immediately held your hand. It was like, you and me, bitch. I think that a lot of kids, this might be crazy, but the kids look at me. I don't think they see redheads a lot. So I think it shocks them a little bit. She's a Gemini moon too, by the way. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah. Me and I'm got to babysit. By the way. Anyone always looking. She immediately was like, you're coming with me. And she held your hand. It's really cute. Let's go find a snack.
Starting point is 00:19:29 They know. Maybe I'll have a kid. I don't know. We'll see. I want one so bad. Gabby wants a kid really bad. I have really bad baby fever right now. That's so strange for like a young comedian.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm not that young. I'm 32. That is young. That's young. Yeah. Is it? In comedian land, that's pretty young. We're going to need you to think that's young for us to be okay.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Okay. That's really young. Okay. That's something we're going to be so young as I know. Yeah. Yeah, you're just a little baby, little tiny baby girl. You just got started. I want a baby.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Do you think I should do it? You go first. If you really want one, then yes. If you really want one. Yeah. But how does one know if they really want one because they've never have? one. That was my issue. Yeah. I was like back and forth, back and forth.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But I was like, I'm more curious about this than not curious. I was like, there is something that is like pulling me in this direction that I'm like, I want to know what this life is about. And also like I loved my career. I loved my life. I loved everything about it. But I also was like, I don't know if I'm going to love everything about this for much, you know, like I'm like, I'm getting a little bored. You know, and things are great. You poor Minno. Once you get bored of her, I'm worried. She better learn how to juggle or something.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Minow is like the least, she's wildly entertaining. I can tell. She is wildly entertaining. Okay, so on the way here to L.A., right? I wake up at four in the morning. I'm like, fuck, we got to get on the plane by five. We get to Charlotte Airport. She wants to do everything herself right now.
Starting point is 00:21:02 She's like, I'll do it. I'll do it. So it adds like 45 minutes to what could take five, right? Because she's like, oh, look, the floor is. shiny and you're like, yeah, it's really shiny. You know what I mean? So I'm, I just pick her up. She's screaming the whole way. She's obviously like half my height. So I'm, I'm holding someone who's half my height and my bags and I'm running through the Charlotte
Starting point is 00:21:24 airport, finally get to the gate. I'm pouring sweat. I'm dying, right? We get on the plane, sit down. I'm like, like, just breathing. And she goes, can I have a snack? And I go, yeah. I look at my bag. I'm like, I don't have any fucking snacks. So I, I, I, I, I don't have any fucking snacks. So I'm like reaching through it. And finally I find like a bag of Doritos that's like half eaten and I hand it to her. And she looks at the Doritos and then she looks at me and she goes, you're a bum. A bum? How did she even know to say that?
Starting point is 00:21:54 I have no idea. You're a bum. She said you're a bum. And then like threw her cigarette on the ground and fucking spun on it. It was crazy. I can't, this is too funny to like you're how is this happening. You're two and a half. She's your boss.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's fun. Kids humble you. And I like, I do like that. I think it's good for the spirit. It is very good. It is. I humbled my mom so much. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I was the biggest bitch a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And then tell us about motherhood. I love it, but I'm like on a drug. Like I have fully, the thing is is that the old me is gone and like I'm happy. Yeah. But it's like be warned.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Like once you cross over like. Yeah, you are not going to. I heard that your brain like, yeah, you're going to become a huge loser. And you're. have to be okay with that. Like the only thing I care about is mom stuff and like birth stories and people who are pregnant. Like it's pathetic. Like there's still enough of me to know that this is sad, but I don't care. I'm smiling through it. Like I'm happy. And so I just give you that warning. But I'm ready for that. What are we doing? What am I doing all day long? Getting a matra and texting.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's time to have a little purpose. You know what I mean? You're going to be shocked by how early. Because you have to wake up early when you have kids. That's the issue at hand. Not even half. That's not true. That's not true. Really? Yeah, you can wake up late. You train them? Well, I woke up late today, but my daughter had swallowed half a bottle of melatonin when I woke up.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I did have to call poison control. But you can sleep. You can sleep. If you're brave enough. Wait. Is she okay? If you're brave enough to be neglectful, you can sleep. Oh, no problem.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, no. She's okay. She's fine. She has a thing about her where you're like, oh, that's a star. And also, she's a real person. She's a city. I'm really scared that she might be an entertainer. It's really scary.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Do whatever you can to stop that. That's your purpose. I'm trying. I mean, aside from staying married to her dad. Well, she seems like she might be. I just, sorry, I can't do it. It can't be done. Unfortunately, that is the biggest push towards comedy.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I remember my friend being like, you know, she's not in comedy, but she was like, you just have to like make it. She's like, everybody's going to have problems. Like, you might as well make it work. with a father of your kid. And I listened to her and I was like, yeah, I just don't think I care about staying married that much.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Like, I'm like, I just don't care. Like, I'd rather not. Right. No, it's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:21 and that's okay. Yeah. I kind of do not think two comedians should. Now I'm like, it depends. Like, if it works for certain people, then it works for certain people.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But for me, it was like, there was too much, you know, what it came down to is like money. Yeah. It really just came down to money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 That being a source of tension. And like, it's like money and infidelity are like the two things that like fucking tank a marriage. But then you get divorced from two billionaires and you hang yourself. So it's like. But that was, that probably was like a statement. That was probably like, this is how I want to go out. She left an impression on me. Let me tell you when I first moved to L.A., this, I used to babysit for this woman.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And she, when we first went out to lunch, the way the server was like, do you guys want dessert? and she said Esther doesn't need dessert. She's trying to lose weight. And I am so sick. I was like, yeah, she's right. I am trying to lose weight. You're like, and she's my hero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So that's who I look up to. Wait, we have on the board that says Gabby Comedy Newsletter. What is that? I mean, I write a newsletter, but it's not. Well, say what you, but say what it is. Say because you, Gabby's newsletters are always like, my life is perfect. And I woke up and I'm in a Barbie Dreamhouse.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And then she recently wrote one that was like, Life has been hard. This is what happened. Basically, I do have perfect mental health famously. What? Yeah. And everyone does get mad when I say that. But everything's amazing.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I have perfect mental health. And I am sorry. Do you know, you know, Martin Short has this too. Really? Yeah. He talks about this. He's like, I'm just always happy and like that's just a thing. I love that.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Oh, I need to. I'm going to text him. I don't know him at all. But then I don't know him either. It's in his book. So I don't have mental illness of any kind. Do you have any? Can you give us that somehow?
Starting point is 00:26:11 What are your tips? I hate to be this girl, but I think I cured myself. Oh, how? But also I just have never really had mental illness. Okay, well, now I really want you to have a kid. Oh, yeah. I think I'd be good at it. I don't look at my phone.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I started a tree all morning. Like, I like love to be alone and I love silence. Like, I really am okay. But then I started doing peptides. Okay, follow this train. Why? Because I'm just like kind of a frat boy and that'll try anything. And I'm also from the Jersey Shore.
Starting point is 00:26:41 So I'll get any surgery. I'll try any sort of medication. Okay. But what were you looking to get out of the peptide? Nothing. Looking amazing. Just like trying. At all hours.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. You know? Yeah. So I started injecting NAD, which was making me even more cracked out on life. And then I took a break and I swear it gave me mental illness. So I had a week of mental illness for the first time in my life. my life where I was like tired and depressed and I wrote a I wrote a newsletter about it and my new newsletters are psychotic like I'm just like like I'm not even reading what I'm writing and I just said
Starting point is 00:27:17 that I had I was waking up with anxiety and I got 15 phone calls I posted it every single one of my friends called me and said are you okay wow compared to her other ones he was a suicide no literally they thought I was going to kill myself and it was just me being like has that no one ever woken up confused and people were like she's sick yeah and i really think it was just me coming off of n-d which i'm back on by the way you oh oh no you inject it yeah how much does that cost a month a hundred bucks a hundred bucks a month it's so cheap where do you get it i have a dealer send it to me i'll hook you up after send it to me i'm on five different peptides send me it's like boys in florida why are you on peptides because they're interesting you're so
Starting point is 00:28:02 i'm gonna go on them i'll go on them i literally inject myself like a her heroin addict every morning. Do you notice differences? Yeah. Wait, what other crazy stuff have you done and injected? I've got a boob job. Really? Yeah. Say more. Go. I have big fake new tits. When did you do that? A year ago. They look great. They're actually a little cute little seas. They're really cute. But I was flat as a board, light as a feather of flat as a board. I looked like a little Dutch boy before. How are you good at bed? Can you describe that to me? Because I always, people always talk about how they're ripping blow jobs and they're doing all this stuff. And I just want to know what you mean by that. So I'm, if I'm into someone, then I'm good. If I'm not into you, obviously, I'm a fucking disaster. I know what I mean? I think I just put a lot into it. I think I put a lot into it. Like rodeo superstar? Like, are you being flipped around? Yeah. I just am kind of nasty. That is a Pisces thing. Is it? No comment. I read this thing that Pisces is no comment, by the way. I read this thing that Pisces, like, freaky sex.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I do. I think it's because we're connected to the spirit realm. I think, well, it's like, I don't see the difference between, like, a lot of people are like, oh, there's, like, fucking and then there's, like, making love. But I'm like, I, to me, they're the same. I hear that. They're the same thing. Like, if you're really fucking somebody, you're also making love to them.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Making love is a little bit hard to swallow. Like, it's like a gross. It is a disgusting term. Yeah. I don't know that I've made love. Yeah. I am good at sex because of dancing. Do you find that to be true for you?
Starting point is 00:29:41 I don't know if I do. Okay. I find myself to be like... No, what kind of dance? Yeah, yeah. You have physical awareness. I have physical awareness. I have rhythm.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm like, I'm blah, blah. It's a flexi. Yeah. You know. Yeah. You're like, watch this. Woo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:01 You're a fucking twirl. Oh, my God. So I find that to be helpful, but maybe not the same for you. Well, I remember off of what you said, I feel that it's always about like the two, the duo. It's like, how are the two people working together? It really is like a, yeah. The pot-a-d-d-do. Yeah. It's the pot-a-do, yes. A pot-to-do. Of course, the pot-a-do.
Starting point is 00:30:20 See, I like a book boyfriend, like a romanticie book boyfriend who's like throwing me into the drywall. And I'm doing almost nothing, but I'm being like, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam, slam. Oh, passionate kiss. Yeah. But I'm not leading the charge by any means. I think I put in like ugly chick effort. I think I do. That is going to have to be a bit. Yeah. Like Renaissance woman.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, like I'm like, I'm going to make you love me with like skills. Yeah, cosplay. I see that on the stage, please. Will you take that to the stage? Sure, I'll try it. Okay, thank you. I'll try it tonight. May I see that on the stage, please?
Starting point is 00:30:58 May I see that on the stage, please? What's going on with your guys dating lives? Is there any... What do I have to look forward to? I, we should go out. Can we? Yeah. We can go out and what we're supposed to do is like sit kind of at a hotel bar.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We don't have to drink or anything, but we can like sit and look cute. I can sit at a bar, yeah. Yeah, with a blowout. That's what we're like ideally supposed to be doing. That's what they're saying, my dating life, it's tragic, Esther. Nothing good. Getting ghosted left and right. That's not true, Stuart.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Well, no. I am. I am. reality with her dating life. She's literally like, these men hate me. And then she shows me the text. She never answers any of their texts. But they should be, they're like, do you want to go out last night and she's like, or this tonight? And she's like, what? Like, this is how she responds to these men. Like they think that they, they hate them. I think they should be a little more like, I'm taking you out. I feel, yeah, I feel like my person is going to be a little more. I hate that. I know. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm mad at you. I know. But I'm going to work. But listen. Why, Esther? Because guys are scared and that's okay. And they need a little bit of like, I know confidence. Sometimes you got to show them. I know. Because they don't want to be too. And a guy that's too aggressively, like, chasing you down is almost borderline and red flag.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It doesn't text first. I don't text first. But I'm going to work on this. I'm going to work on this. I think I have avoidant is what they're saying. The book. And you have that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yes. How did you know? I'm just looking at you. I know. I'm just making eye contact. What are you? The exact opposite. Anxious attack?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Yeah. Okay. Don't make me say it. I'm secure. I'm sure. I'm so sorry. But you have to show interest or they think that... I know.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I know. And I'm working on it. I went into a fem cell territory for a second where I like really not not fem cell. I always have new characters. I always have like, there's always always. someone new popping in that I'm like blah blah blah but I you are becoming or that you're interacting with no lovers lovers like the stories are fire like they'll come in and out and in and out but then these millionaires are taking her up to omacasse mil what not billionaire millionaire millionaire millionaire
Starting point is 00:33:21 no she's not going to hang herself not billionaire okay where are you meeting these millionaires they see her I had a comedy show I need to know this I need to know where the money is I know we need to go to the hotel bar. I promise you. I will go. I'll sit there and wait for you to come. We will go to the Chateau Marmont today. We're so funny. Chateau Marmont, yeah. Can you just go in there? But then we're going to like run into someone from boymates world and I like can't do that. Right. I don't want anybody in the industry at all. We don't need anyone in the industry. Unless they're like produced. I would do a producer. Yeah, I feel like off screen is good. You know what I like is the guys that hold the camera.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Or the boom mic. I know. I like them. I know. But that's what I'm saying. That's my That's what I'm into. Yes. They don't. They don't work. They fuck crazy good, but they don't have money. Right. Because they're so used to holding things up that they get to.
Starting point is 00:34:12 They're so strong. But a lot of their moms are dead, which is a plus, I feel like. Really? Yeah. How do you? Wait, what? I don't know. It's just something I'm, it's a vibe I'm picking up.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Like, I feel a lot of blue collar guys have dead moms. Dead moms. You whispering into the boom, Mike. Is your mom alive? Yeah. Hey, is your mom. Tell me if your mom's dead. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Why do I trust your science so much? I don't know. It's not. I just made that up fully. We believed you wholeheartedly. Well, it's true. No, it's fact for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 100% all of their moms are. But I totally get what you're saying. Those guys are like, they're hot. I like them. They're hot. They're like brunette. Yeah. Brunette.
Starting point is 00:34:54 They have tattoos. Are you into brunettes? I'm fine with brunettes. I know blonde men. No. That's, I feel, universal. Yeah. across the forest.
Starting point is 00:35:03 They would have died in the jungle. They're weak. I have no type, though. I go all over the map. But I'm going to work on this. I'm going to like get rid of some avoidant tendencies. Well, it's good. You have a secure in your life because then you just do what she says because she knows.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yes. It's like instinctual to her. Yeah. She knows what's right. So wait, Gabby, if you're ever feeling anxious as a secure person. Yeah. How do you deal with that? I drink a lot of water and I go sit in silence and I stare at a tree.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Are you talking about in dating? I'm talking about like if you're anxious about somebody that you're dating. Like they haven't texted you back. She's like not. Oh, I'll text them again. Yeah. And but what do you say? Hey.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's it. Yeah. Okay. But also I'm so delusional where I'm like if they're not obsessed with me, then something's wrong. And, you know, rejection is God's protection. I do believe that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Like if someone's not being obsessed with me, I'm like, oh, great, I'll never think about you again. Yeah. It is kind of like, why would I want? want to stay at a party I'm not invited to. I don't need, I like my dad. I don't need this man's attention. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't like my dad, but I know what you mean. Just text a man. If he's not giving me anything, I'm like, okay, bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Which is funny because it's like, I consume some dating advice and they say not to do that, but it does work. Like, sometimes all the dating advice is wrong. I think you are supposed to be... Yeah, it kind of is. You are supposed to be like openly being yourself and texting these people. It's so confusing because, again, it's like, sex it's like it's all about those two people and so how the advice how could it ever always a hundred percent yeah everyone is crazy in their own way except for you and like yeah except for gaffy yeah maybe i'm actually the most crazy and then i think i'm not crazy at all like maybe it's more of a multiple personality this podcast is brought to you by squarespace square space is the all
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Starting point is 00:41:02 You can have it. How do you do it? No, but what are you about to do? Oh, this is how I open a banana. I go, I don't like it doing from the top. the top is like, is that the better way to do it? That's like the masculine way. I think Europeans do it this way.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Really? No, I don't know. I think Europeans do it this way. I'll just take it. I'll just believe that. I personally would not put my mouth on the outside. That was gross. I actually really am super embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I'm like, I can't believe I'm single. We pick a banana from its ass. I'm so glad Gabby has perfect mental health because I won't sleep for four days because they did that. She'll bring this up in literally two weeks. In two weeks, I'll be like that was a worst moment in my life. Until I've been thinking about it all morning. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:41:49 No, that's how I peel an orange. I bite the outside. I forgot I was on camera. I just feel so natural to be here talking with you ladies. Gabby, how early do you fart in front of somebody that you're dating? Oh, well, my issue is that I fart all night long. So I think I fart almost immediately. And then I have to be like, did I fart last night?
Starting point is 00:42:05 Mm-hmm. And do they say yes? Yes, sometimes. Is it make a loud noise? Or is it a snow? Have you ever farted in the middle of the night and you've woken yourself up? No.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Really? No. I'm a Jew. I'm like a gassy Jew. I don't want to throw my husband on the bus. He's a gassy Jew too. Yeah. There's been some noises, especially like really early on in dating where it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:26 oh my God, that's so awkward. No, no. It's really awkward. Sometimes I'll fart in the middle of the night with a new guy and I wake up and I have to like see if he's sleeping. And I know he's not. I like cannot fart or shit around. somebody that I'm dating for like too long I feel like ever I get to I get there but it takes a long
Starting point is 00:42:47 time and it's like a lot of like you know especially if you like if you take a trip or something you come from a long line of Republicans I know it's like it's like you just hold it in you just hold and then it turns into cancer listen you got to let it out my body won't even let me do it's not like I can't like my body won't do it that's what I'm saying I can't like four days we'll go by yeah and I don't shit I'm like I got to get home Yeah. I've got to get home or I got to go to the hospital. You just have to go to a coffee shop. Yeah, you say, I'm calling my sister. No, because I'll be like, they know that I'm here and they know that I'm shitting. But I don't think men understand the passage of time. So I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Starting point is 00:43:26 That's an interesting perspective. You know what I mean? They're not really thinking about it the way we are. Dumb. You know what I recently learned from my pelvic floor physical therapist? I love it. Loving this. If you have a tight pelvic floor when you need to relax to go to the bathroom, if you go, like, you know, if you want to push, you're like, ugh. Yeah. But if instead you go shh, and you make a sound when you push, the right muscles will relax will be easier.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I just want to give a health tip. Is that true? It is true. Have you tried it? Did you think it was a joke? No, I'm like, what I mean by Is It True is like, have you tested it? Yeah, it works. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So if you are on a date, I think you could try that. I'm sitting across the table and I just go, he stops talking. He's like, Are you shushing me? Oh, no, sorry. I'm trying to shit. Also, you should be taking cholesterol every morning makes you shit. What? Collestrum? Like breastfeeding stuff? Like the. Yeah, but it's not human. You guys aren't on the cholesterol train? I feel like you would be. I want to be, but I don't know enough. What do I need to know? So it is kind of gross that it's, am I talking too much
Starting point is 00:44:40 about medication? No. This is my dream. Yeah. It's, I thought you were whispering something to Esther. Oh. I'm like, hey, just so you know, she's crazy. She's crazy. She's crazy. She's a witch. She's a snake oil salesman. No, no, no, the colostrum is good. I thought you literally were like. I'm kidding my. You guys, please, I'm embarrassed myself with a banana thing. And now I did another major faux paul.
Starting point is 00:45:05 huge faux pa Only you would think peeling a banana is a faux pa The way I gnawed at it was weird You did not We did pause and go What are you doing? We did all stop and go wait
Starting point is 00:45:19 What's that? What's happening? Move on It's over It's over Nobody's going to think about it ever again We're on to thinking about it We're on thinking about it
Starting point is 00:45:29 It is filmed though It is still forever Everyone at home will be thinking about it but none of us. There might be on the internet that people peel p. People might be in the comments saying that's true, but the biting was weird.
Starting point is 00:45:41 They're going to. People do feel them from the bottom, but the biting was unacceptable. No, it's totally okay, and I need you to know that it's okay. Colostrum? Right. So, so cholesterol is what, as you guys know,
Starting point is 00:45:54 is in breast milk for the first week or two weeks to build your gut biome. Then it dispels, and then it's just milk. Right. But they take it from cows. Uh-huh. And they distill it. And then you take it every morning as a powder because our gut biomes are so broken from
Starting point is 00:46:10 microplastics and everything that we should be constantly rebuilding our gut biomes. So you take it every morning, fixes your stomach, makes everything regular. It makes you poopoo. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it makes you shit. Okay. I've been taking seed, the probiotic. Yeah, I've heard of us.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And that has helped my poofos. Probiotics really do help. You think? Yeah. I mean, I've noticed they do. Can you talk about the one, the ozempic you ordered from Florida? Oh, I did order like years ago. I ordered fake ozimic from Florida that I had to like mix together myself.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And I poisoned myself. And I like almost died. Oh, really? I was literally like thinking I was a nurse. I like literally got DHGate. It was a big. I was like thinking I was a nurse. Some like girl that I met in Nashville told me to get it, whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It came from Florida. And that was horrible. And then I couldn't leave the bed. So I stopped taking that. And then I got like a doctor. to prescribe it. I don't think all girls should be on it and I think more power to you, but I have like body issues and it's helped a lot. And it cut some of my depression noise. I mean, by the way, that was a major reason why I got separated was because I went on antidepressants.
Starting point is 00:47:19 What do you say more? And I was like, oh, I just saw things a little more clearly. Like you weren't as depressed? Like I thought I was like, oh, I thought this was like me the whole time. The fog I lifted. And I was like, Oh, there's like, you know what I mean? Yeah, because once you heal the issue, then you're like, okay, you start to see things a little more like the way they are, you know? Yeah. That's just getting me chills.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Because you're like, I don't even know what that's like. I'm like, I can't imagine. It's really good to know, like, just I feel like universal advice that if your partner goes on antidepressants, they might break up with you. Be careful. That's really sinking in for me. Men should start like poking holes in it like they do with birth control when they want. Yeah, but I do think it's women.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I think women are the ones that would do it. I don't think men will do it because I don't think men. Yeah. I think relationships are set up for them to benefit them. Like I think women are genuinely happier alone. I know. That's like a huge part of culture right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I did not see this coming because I'm so insecure and I feel like I'm just such this big loser. but like what what no truly because it's the anxious attachment but then i see like on tic-tok and all the trends and stuff it's like women are the ones that initiate like all the divorces yeah women are like you said like they're better off without men men are worse off without women like i did not see this coming because i'm like my self-esteem was so low like i always felt like i'm the lesser partner you know if i'm in a partnership i don't know we they don't add any value to our like lives. We add all the value. They have no empathy. There's no like magazines about how to be a better husband. You know what I mean? Or how to be a better groom. Like there's no, it's set up for us to be
Starting point is 00:49:12 like working on making them happy and like not ourselves. Like they are not working to make us happy. Yeah. I also think that like they feel I don't, I mean, there are some lonely women, but I feel like men really internalize loneliness. I think they have to do. more work to level out than we do. Like we we're all like a little bit mentally ill. They're like extreme they're working back from 100 and we're working back from like 20. Yeah, because they're not like allowed to cry. Yeah. I have empathy for them. They don't have it for you. They don't have it for us though. That's scientifically proven. Yeah. They don't have empathy. Like men cannot put themselves in someone's shoes in my opinion. I don't know if they're, I don't know. Sorry. Literally the day that
Starting point is 00:49:57 we got separated, I went out and everyone was like, you look so good. And it was like this weird shift where I was like, I didn't look any different. Like I didn't dress any differently. Everyone I saw was like, what's going on with you? You look so good. And I was like, oh, I made the right call. Glow from within. It was like immediate.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Your aura changed. I have a friend. She was telling me that her and her partner, her husband, they were going to separate. And I was like, really surprised. And the first thing I asked, like, I think when you hear that, I'm so curious, I'm like, is this because you want it? And she literally laughed at me. She started laughing.
Starting point is 00:50:39 She's like, what? Like, it was so obvious to her that she was the one that wanted it. Yeah, yeah. She laughed at me. Yeah. But, like, in my mind, I'm like, I don't know. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:51 It's kind of great for us. Yeah, it is. It's a good move. I think men are not journaling enough. I think they're not meditating enough. They're not staring at trees. They're not staring at trees. They're not even considering it.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I think there's three healthy men on earth. And who are they? And who are they and where are they? Yeah. And may they text me? Maybe the rock or something. Maybe the rock for sure. Guys, someone who's on camera?
Starting point is 00:51:17 No. Right, right, right, right, right. But he probably has a cousin. I've had dreams where I just like rode around on his shoulders for like a day. You are so horny, huh? That is not a good sign. Or it is a really good sign. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I mean, it wasn't even, they didn't feel sexual. I have dreams that I'm childhood best friends with Justin Bieber and it's not sexual. I'm just like backstage. That's great. I wish I had that dream. I'm so jealous. Just being like, oh, we went to camp together. I'm fucking so jealous.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I'm such a huge fucking Bieber fan. Who isn't? Are you seeing those videos that everyone our age is showing their daughter, old Jessica. Justin Bieber videos and all the little girls are like watching like yeah it's really you have to do this I gotta do this I gotta do this I got to do this I don't even know about this I don't I'm not I don't I don't know anything about Justin Bieber except for Haley Bieber it's on mom TikTok though oh okay you have to watch it okay what do they like about what are the girls like he's cute it's just it's like the charisma of him being a young starlet was just when we all fell in love is yeah I guess how people
Starting point is 00:52:24 felt about the Beatles. Do you remember when baby, the music video for Baby dropped and all of us were like, yeah, yeah. And it was like, he was like in the laundromat. Yeah. Yeah. They're like doing laundry together. You're such a girl pop star fan. Yeah. And maybe I'm a lesbian. Like I just, you guys are all really straight or something. And I'm not. No. No, it's just Justin. It's just Justin B. where I can't stress this enough. Okay. Did you have, were you a Jonas Brothers girl? No. This is, I'm, I'm too, we're old. Yeah. Sorry to pull you. You know, I was too old to be as into Justin Bieber as I was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah. Me and Corinne had a whole podcast about it. I forgot about how obsessed we were with him. How did that happen to you? And by the way, we found him on the street. I remember this. I completely forgot about this. We found him on the street.
Starting point is 00:53:11 We got a tip from somebody that we know that worked at TMZ. He was like, Justin's at this hotel. I fucking got, I got off my couch watching a Handmaid's Tale, got an Uber. That's a time stamp. went and like waited outside for him and Haley to come out and was like, I'm so happy for you guys. Did he say anything back? You guys are like meant to be together. And then, but at first I like reached out and touched him in a way that was like my hand felt really big like I was on acid or something.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I was like, oh, that's the biggest my hand has ever looked. Wait, you touched him? Yeah, I went, I went just like that. That's so pathetic of you. I know, it's really bad. We've all moved on from the banana thing. Now that we know that. This is new. This is new.
Starting point is 00:53:50 She's a grown woman and reached. out and touched this has eclipsed yeah i touched him wait i think this is great on the street on the street like yes perfect how he react was it like nothing to him because it happens all the time no he was really annoyed he turned around he was really fucking annoyed and then i i immediately pivoted because i was like i know he's obsessed with her and i know he's a picey so if i just go if i just say something nice about his new relationship he's going to like he's going to immediately like me that's so so i was like i'm so happy for you guys i think you're like meant to be together and this is amazing and he was like, thank you so much. She's amazing. And I was like, she is amazing. I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:25 you guys are amazing together. Like, it was just, it was the weirdest. It was almost like I was like begging to be a third or something. Like, yeah, it got to a point where they were like, enough. Yeah. There's still time. No, there's not. They have a kid. So are you. I can bond you. I know. I know. You could do a swingers. Was Haley so beautiful in person? Yeah, she's gorgeous. Wow. She's gorgeous. I love Road. You do. What do you, do you really think it's good? I like the lip, I mean the toner is really good. I don't think they have a toner. They do. It's a milky.
Starting point is 00:54:57 The peptide glazing fluid? No, the one before you do before that. Oh, okay, okay. But not the first step, the second step. Okay. Do you know what I'm talking about? A little bit. You go like this.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That's, I have that too, and I feel like that's not a toner. It's like a milk. Yeah, it's like a moisturizer. It's milk. But it's not the moisturizer. Right. Is it a moisturizing toner? It's not this, it's this.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah. That's a toner, Esther. No, but it's what comes out is milk. It's a milky toner. But there is, yeah, there's milky toners. Comments sound off and tell us. I think moisturizing to know. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Glazing milk. It's the glazing milk seramide facial essence. But to be clear, I don't know what a toner is. And I also don't know what a glazing milk is. Okay. Well, these things aren't things, right? I don't know if road is a thing. This is not a thing.
Starting point is 00:55:48 But the packaging is hard. cool. I like that the lips are short. No, I want to purchase everything, but I have to check in and be like, why. Yeah. Yeah. Is it just because she's beautiful? Yes. Yes. Of course. That's it. That's it. It's like if I
Starting point is 00:56:06 put this on, I will be. It'll change. Always believe that. That's how I'm with that Summer Friday lip balm. It's like carrying it makes me feel like I can run the world. And why? Like, who used it that got you? It's like a crystal. It's just holding it. I didn't even see any and doing it. It's like a crystal. It's like I feel like my life is in order.
Starting point is 00:56:25 We make up. Moistrized. Powers. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, we're really getting somewhere. I saw this TikTok where this woman basically is saying that like the way someone sees you, if you don't like it, that's reason enough to stop being friends with them, to stop dating them, whatever. Like I have experienced this so hardcore in my life where someone is always like putting me down, like or they're projecting themselves onto me and then I can feel I feel their idea what their idea is of me in their head and I'm like that's not who I am and they have it wrong and like this TikTok is basically saying like don't be friends with that person anymore 100% cut it like love it cut it cut it cut it have you guys had that yes yeah I'm kind of like in a weird space with
Starting point is 00:57:13 that. Why? There's this weird balance, right? Like there's, yes, there's like a moment in where you know that like you've outgrown someone or it's just not the same or it's not like, but I don't really like cut people out like that. I don't like I will disappear. Yeah. But then I feel like there's so much of that going on right now.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Of cutting people out. Yeah. And obviously maybe that's because I fucking just cut my husband out. But with friendships, I don't know. I'm like, you know, conflict and conflict resolution are like part of friendship and relationships. And so like there's this weird, I go back and forth about it where I'm like, it's so easy to be like, yeah, get out. You know, I don't like the way that you see me. but that also avoids the question of like why are they seeing me that way yeah like what did
Starting point is 00:58:15 i do or portray that has that idea like where's the self-reflection in that but like what if there's nothing you did right like what if what if let's say we're hanging out all the time we're best friends and i'm like start to be like say things like you're stupid but i'm like saying it funny or i'm like you're lazy like yeah that's like not even that's like beat it. Right. To me, that's like a no-brainer. Like, get out. You know what I mean? So then I feel like you agree, but you're thinking of something more like nuanced maybe? Yeah, I totally, I totally agree with that. When it's, when it's like an obvious, this person has animosity towards me for no apparent reason, like get, get out of my life. But there's also like my best
Starting point is 00:59:01 friend, right, like Courtney, who lives in Portland and she has like two kids, we've been through like crazy different life changes, right? Like we both got pregnant at the same time. I had a miscarriage. Her pregnancy, her pregnancy went to term. We were at completely different, like, things in our lives.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And it was, like, really hard for me to be happy for her. And it was really hard for her to understand what I was going through. Oh my God. I had this too with a friend. Yeah. And it was like, at one point that she was, like, freaking out about giving birth. And I was trying to, like, talk her, like,
Starting point is 00:59:33 just to, like, calm her down. And she said something like, you don't understand what this is like and I was like that's like a crazy thing to say to me right now you know what I mean like it was like so there's like these and and there was a lot of animosity between us that we couldn't we couldn't really get past because it was just life and like human shit you know what I mean and it's like if you really really care about a person and like a friendship then it's like Yeah, I don't like the way you see me right now, but that could change.
Starting point is 01:00:11 You know what I mean? Are you guys good now? Yeah. I'm like not repaired with a friend that I went through that with. But we kind of always had like stuff, but like we were pregnant at the same time. I lost the pregnancy. She didn't. And then I feel like she's mad at me because then I didn't like make an effort to come
Starting point is 01:00:28 see her baby. And I feel like. God. And I feel like. Yeah, I didn't. Like I'm okay that I did. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Like I'm, I know that's maybe rude or whatever and people would maybe expect more for me, but like, I don't have more, whatever. Yeah. I really like what you just said. Really? People expect more from me, but I don't have more. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of prolific.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I do think about it a lot because it's someone that I've known for so long. Yeah. And I'm like, well, now we're both moms. We both have two kids. Like, now's probably really fun to be friends again. Yeah. Yeah. I think it takes, it just takes like a long time.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I think time is good. Yeah. And also, I don't know that she fully ever will understand. Well, I don't think she will. No. Understand, like, what that feels like. Because if you haven't gone through it, you don't know. How could you?
Starting point is 01:01:18 The same way that, like, you don't understand what it's like to have a kid unless you've had a kid. Like, it doesn't. So there was just, like, a massive misunderstanding. And life is like that sometimes, you know? And sometimes you just have to choose, like, oh, I'm just going to completely let this go. Yeah. You either can or you can. Like, if you wanted to be friends with her again, you just have to be like, I have to release
Starting point is 01:01:40 that entire situation. Yes. I feel like I have, but I'm like scared that she hasn't. Who cares? Right. Yeah, there was like something that I saw that's probably AI that was like, truly. But it was like you don't like achieve peace through any sort of action that you, it's like you achieve peace through what you choose to ignore.
Starting point is 01:02:02 And I was like, oh shit, that's like, um. That's, like, very intense. That's good. It's also very appropriate that I can hear my daughter crying. Yeah, I know. I was like, so I'm going to choose to ignore that. Choose to ignore. We do have to wrap it up, which I'm so sad because this is like, you guys, I could talk
Starting point is 01:02:20 forever. I know. It kind of just feels like we're hanging out. We need part two, part seven, part seven, part eight. Yes. Thank you so much for being here. Are you guys on tour? Like, where can people see you?
Starting point is 01:02:30 What do we, what do we do? Go first. No, you go. Oh, God. She's got a. I'm not on tour. Yes. But follow me at Stuart and Jill.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yes. And you will show people how to eat a banana in the European way. Stuart explains. Stuart explains. And they can find us at a bar. And they can find us at possibly the regency. Hotel in Midtown. I also want to go.
Starting point is 01:02:54 We'll drink non-alcoholic little things. We'll have a martini. You have a club soda. Yeah, I'll have a little mocktail. I'll give you a little NAD. You'll be juiced up. You'll be ready to rock. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And men love to talk about peptides. It's a good, easy thing. Because of Rogan. And are you on tour? I'm on tour. The tour's called Gabby Brian is my best friend. You could follow me at Gabby is Brian on everything. And I'm around.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Check out our newsletter. Check out my newsletter. I guess it's a huge, suicide now. I keep reading it back being like, I think it's fine. I think it's just saying I'm waking up confused. everyone's calling me like, do you have a knife? Do you have a gun? Hide it. Hide it. Run.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Rosebud, your book? Oh, yes. My book is coming out. It's called Fully Baked. It's a memoir. It's really, I think it's good. I have a good feeling that it's going to be really good. This is the new fame sick. I'm hoping it's good. And I'm, yeah, so definitely buy my book. It's for presale wherever you buy your books. I am on to. tour just go to rosebudbaker.com and I'm Rosbodebaker everywhere. Is there going to be an audiobook? Yeah, and I read the audio book and I do cry.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Oh. I do cry. When is that available? I think it's available on June 9th. Okay. It's available whenever. But you can also pre-order the... Really?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yes. Oh my God. Amazing. Celebrate. Let's have a launch party. Slash birthday. Yeah. You'll pay for you.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I would love that because I'm not totally comfortable with a book launch party. Yeah. It's like combined. You do your book lunch party and then it'll be my birthday. Yes. We'll come by. That's fun. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Oh my God. You guys, thank you for being here. I'm obsessed. I'm addicted. Thank you. And thank you to our listeners. Please comment if that thing is a toner or not. And we'll see you next week with a brand new episode.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Thank you.

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