Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Peter Kim & Jenna Jiménez's Lunar Reset

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

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I am paranoid of what are they called the things that I'm scared to get. Bingleberries. Binholmns. And so it's like an irrational fear of pinworms. What is that? What the f- I see why you don't like her having being here. She gets nasty.

You get nasty. No. What's Hayworth? No. Hey Slugs, it's me, Peter Kim. Thanks for watching Trash Tuesday as always. My comedy special is coming out on March 6 on YouTube. YouTube. So like and subscribe. There's already trailer out. So go check it out. Enjoy the app.

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I was like, I was giving the note to wear red. Me too. Me too. What do I have in? Oh, you have a little red. Okay. No, it is. You guys didn't get the memo.

But, um, Konghei Fat Choi. Okay, Gonghei Fat Choi. What's that? What is it in Filipino? I really do think that. We do Gregorian calendar, which is embarrassing. Because. That's nuts.

I know. The idea that somehow the, the year starts, like, dead in the winter is so dumb. Wait, so you're a one one. We're one-one. That's crazy. Embarrassing, right? That's colonization. It is.

Oh, my God. Wow. Okay. Is it the year of the horse, fire horse? Fire horse. It's supposed to be like the year of movement. The year of like, you know. Speed.

Yeah, speed, which is like, ooh, I don't like either. You don't like movement or speed? I like to. I'm dying for movement. Really? I'm dying. I feel stagnant. Me too.

I love speed. I love, like, do you have you ever done eterole? I did Rilin in my 20s like twice and it did the opposite for me. Oh, what? It like slowed me down and kept me like nice and focused because I probably have me. That's it. You do then. That means you do that.

Because when I was prescribed like 300 Rilin a month. You did it in a day. And it did in a day. And I, any time I would take one, I would just fall asleep. And my mom would go, that's how you know you've got problems. Because you took speed and you just, it's like, it makes me like grog. zombie. Oh, I loved it.

I got misdiagnosed. ADHD and my psychiatrist gave me et al-or-all and I was partying. I was out at the gay clubs. I was like, I'll suck anything. We're sucking, sucking, sucking, suck and suck-in-sucking.

For real. I had never been so horny before. Wow. It was crazy. And then my friends were like, I don't think you have ADHD. Because that's like when you know when you're misprescribed. And I'm like, uh, I can't concentrate on anything. You know, making shit up.

So can we introduce? We have back by popular demand, Peter Kim. Hi. Who I knew was going to be the audience's new favorite person. And I'm so glad that the audience did agree, you belong here. I love you. Oh, thank you guys. I always wanted to be in a sorority.

This is not a good one. That's my type. We're going to be rushing tomorrow. So I'm ready. Okay. And then we have. Of course. Are you introducing me?

I guess. Okay. My cousin. My cousin, Jenna. Your workers. Our prima. The staff member. Who's also loved by our audience.

Yes, audience fave. Their nickname for me is Lord Farker, Farkwad. Lord Farkwad. You know. You know. Oh, you got it. No. Oh, you got it.

Oh, you got it? No. That was hard. Are you seeing the activating the bob trend on TikTok? Yes. I don't love it so much. I love, I want to get a bob waged. I'm not on TikTok.

I don't know. You're missing out. You need to get on. I am. You guys have to teach me. I don't know how to do it. To download an app? I downloaded it.

Then just watch. I know. Like Instagram Reels is just very like, it means catching up a little bit faster now. But still it's like, oh no. No. You got to get on the fucking activate the Bob. I want to get a Bob just to do that.

I know. Is mine good enough to do it? Yeah. Yeah. You're perfect. What do I have to do? Daddy, will you teach me on a TikTok? DJ a TikTok.

Teaching a TikTok. I feel like the Dougie is one of the dances that has like, it's like evergreen. Oh, yeah. People are still trying to nail it and arguing about the Dougie about. Yes, here we go, here go. Yeah, you were born for this, Jenna. And there are more subtle ones. There's like people who do like real subtle.

This is so good. This is amazing. Who invented this? Like, this is so good. Yeah. Oh my God, put a bob wick on your ass. Yes. And then twirking and activate that.

You're going to run my TikTok. I know you don't want to, but you will. He's going to mom injure you. Okay, is this is going to, this might be offensive. Every episode I have something where I'm trying to offend you. She's going to end up on black TikTok again. Yes. Let's get you back on.

So there's this clip that's going viral where he's like, when I first had my daughter, I thought, me and my wife thought we were. amazing parents. He's like, we would look at other parents who'd be chasing their two little boys around and be like, what are they doing wrong? Like, we need to, do they need help from us? And he's like, then we had two boys. And we realized there's a big difference between having a girl and a boy. And obviously, I'm terrified when I see that clip because I do, I will confess. I have like a very easy child. Yes. Thank you for confessing that. Thank you. Honestly, that makes me feel so validated.

Because when you tell other mothers on air, you're like, no, they're just like a doll from age so and so. And I'm like, who's a doll? My baby is trying to rip shit up. Like, no, I'm super aware of the privilege of like, she is so easy. And like I was not an, I, it's out of nowhere, right? Because like, I was not an easy baby. Like, my baby really reminds me of my mom.

Like, I think she's either that or my mom is just like a one year old. I'm not sure. But like she just is so calm and chill. I mean, she's not like, oh, you know, she still screams and gets like whatever. But anyway, she still sh-herself. Boys are physical, right? They are bouncing off. They need to slam things.

They need to throw things. They need to pull things. They need to climb. They need to fites things. He will, he started chewing the floor when I was there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, that's, homie, that's the floor.

Yeah. Yeah. He needs to make sure. Is it? Is this floor or cake? Is it cake or floor? This is where I feel like such an inadequate mom too because I'm like, God, I'm the worst parent ever. I cannot keep up with him. And that's why I need like backup? And you're always like, oh, why do you always need two people there? Those two people will tell you we need a third. You need help. Like we need an extra tank, a gas for these kids.

Okay, I would say, I feel like even if you had an easy baby, you would still want a second to them just to make sure they were breathing. Yeah. So in case one of them croaks. So I've come up with my analysis. which I don't know if this is offensive or not, but I think that like having a girl versus having a boy, it's like the difference between having a small dog and a big dog. It's like people love their small dogs and their big dogs equally, right? Like each person is as happy and is in love and is getting everything out of it. But it's like the big dog is harder.

The s are bigger. It's like if they jump up, it's a problem. Whereas like if a small dog jumps up, It's like who care. Like I, that's like how I'm doing it. Although some people do return their bigger dogs. More,

yeah, because they're less tolerant of. I have friends who are in the process of returning their dog because they had a small dog. Were they returning them too? They're not returning it. They're trying to find.

Rehome. They're trying to re-home. Do you ever consider rehoming? Yeah. Are you rehoming your son maybe? No, no, no, no, no. But I get mad at like people who like return dogs to shelters. I like want to fight them.

No, they're not returning to shelter. They're like raising it. And then they're trying to possibly re-home. You got a rehomer? Yeah. And I know you love your, and she's a girl, right? Yeah. She's beautiful.

She's a big dog. She's like 40 pounds. Oh yeah, mid-sized. Yeah, she's gorge. She's gorgeous. I know. Can I tell you a crazy story now that it's Chinese New Year or Lunar New Year? This is going to be offensive.

And I'm very sorry to the Chinese community and the dog community. I'm just going to say that right now. Both two are the biggest community. You can stop right there. You've said enough. No, truly, they're the most passionate and actually largest communities. But my mom is Korean. She's conservative, immigrant.

So she is, I wouldn't say she's racist, but she does have a preference. And her lowest preference is Chinese. She has the worst. I know it's Lunar New Year. I know it's new, but she does not have. a good view of the Chinese, nor do many Koreans. And not to excuse her, but when my mom and dad divorced, my dad had custody of us for like a year because of some fucked up situation. I know. It was really fucked up.

And my mom, when she came back, realized that my dad allowed us to have a dog. And she was like, fuck this. We cannot have this dog here. Anyway, my mom comes back in And she was like, we have to get rid of this dog I was like, no, we can't. She was like, you have one week to find one of your friends to take this dog. So I go to school and I ask every friend

to take this dog and no one wants the dog. I'm gonna die. And I come back and my mom's like, well, we have to get rid of it. I was like, we cannot take it to the shelter. They're gonna kill it. We cannot take it to.

And she was like, fine, we won't take it to the shelter, but I'll bring it to somewhere that they will take care of it. Somewhere. So she took it. She took us and the dog to a Chinese restaurant. I'm not assuming anything. I'm not assuming anything. No.

She tied it to their gate and then we drove away. And I was like, what are you doing? And she was like, they'll take care of it. Are you? okay. I'm not okay. Oh my god. I think you're suffering from that. You that Chinese family probably like, oh, probably took him. It was Chinese restaurant. A restaurant. He said, let me just be clear. And the underlying thing was that they'll take care of it. Yeah. I bet somebody saw the dog. What city was for sure? Flushing Queens. Oh, somebody in New York saw the dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's tell ourselves that story

because the alternative is like too much for me. I'm going to go out. Sorry to pick it up for a few years. Happy Mother New Year, guys. No, but it's just highlighting how hateful she was towards the Chinese. My mom has a similar story from her childhood that like I feel that I feel it in my bones like about a childhood pet that they had and that I forget who, but if it was her dad or someone took it to the shelter. They're like they were moving and they're like, we can't have it. And then like they went to find it and it was gone.

Oh, no. And when my mom told me that story, I was like, I'm never, I, that's got to be suppressed for everybody. That's generational damage for all of us. It's so bad. Sorry, now you have to live with my story and your audience. No, this show is about laughing and also crying. And let me tell you, if I know anything about restaurants is that my people work in them somewhere. Yeah.

I know it was a Chinese restaurant, but I'm telling you some Mexican found that dog first. And gave it a good home. Gave it a good home and then there were, and then had lots of babies and they kept all of them. May I also say? The Chinese people probably took them in and were nice to that dog. It's just, you know, they probably did. What's that that you're using? You want some?

Is it Clinique Black Honey? It is. Oh my God. It's so that, did you get it because of TikTok? I did. With that one girl in the car and she's like, this is what Liv Tyler wore and like that. Yeah. Yeah.

It's having such a moment. It's like a 90s staple. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wait, so... It's like a purple-ish. Oh, what?

I'm sorry about that core trauma. It's not. Let me see. No, red, the color that we were supposed to wear today, speaking of. Chris Red did a interview with TMZ where he, like, told his side of the story because there were all these, like, rumors going around. What rumors? That he had, it's not even a rumor. He actually dated Keenan's ex.

Okay. We're talking about Chris Red from SNL. From SNL and Kenan from SNL. Okay. Was so, they were. were exes already. They were already exes. And then they started dating.

But apparently it was an issue. I don't think Chris ever like addressed it because like why would you address something like that? Yeah, this was years ago. Years ago. But I thought he did a really great job and like an emotional job like saying like this person really stood by me and they were not together. And of course that's not what we want.

But you don't, you know, it's the whole like you can't help who you fall in love with type of situation. Like, have you guys ever dated a friend's ex? Oh, no. That's so disgusting territory for me. But I will say that I thought that the drama was that it was, they were together. And if it was your ex, I don't know that it's worth making this big story out of it. And how many years an ex?

I don't know of the details of how many years, but clearly there was something unresolved from the other side. And also we don't know, I mean, I understand that they're and they were working on the same show, Keenan and Chris, but like, are they best friends? Like, we don't know that they're. Also, we don't know. Like, gross are they? Yeah, yeah. We don't know that anything necessarily was an issue other than the fact that one person didn't like that another person who was in their same circle or community was dating their ex.

Because that can also just be an issue because of feelings and emotions. Have you ever dated a friend's ex? No. but I have fantasizing the shower about going off on someone who would date my ex. Really? Yeah, I have like revenge fantasies. Yeah, yeah.

That I can really relate to. Yes, because I'm petty. I feel like if someone went out with my ex and you're my friend, you did that on purpose. Interesting. You did that on purpose. You knew what the fuck was going. It's never happened.

It's happened to me. It's happened to me. Oh, my God. I'm like, ready? I'm like, I want to pay. I'm staying away from all your exes. So, oh, my God. I'm like, oh, girl, please, somebody.

Now that you have hair, girl, please. I'm acting my mom. Yes. I dated this really shitty person and he was a tattoo artist and he beat me at the end of the relationship. And he's a full-blown classic hallmark narcissist, all of the things. When him and I broke up, one of, it was still my space years, this girl and she was gorgeous, like started to like, like befriend me and um she was like hey i'm really sorry about your breakup i saw your my space like like status change or whatever whatever he's no longer your top 10 yeah he's no longer on your top eight

top 16 whatever been waiting and we really like struck a friendship and of course like i couldn't like you know say no to a friendship with a really pretty girl i was like oh this girl's so pretty whatever so she would know to this she was from san francisco by the way and then she would fly to long beach and we would like you know just be we were like in the early budding friendship Like, I think, I don't know why we stopped talking, but I felt like one, during one of her trips, I kind of got the ick. I was like, oh, I don't think this girl could actually be my friend. There's something like off about her. Three months later, she was with my ex, that tattoo artist.

And then she like moved down here to like be with him. And the whole time, mind you, I had vented to this girl so much because the breakup was so new. Right. Oh, God. And she took everything I said and said, okay, I'll have him. But then in my head, I'm like, have at it, home girl. Like, please, he was such a piece of shit. Are you friends with her now?

No. I was so disgusted. Just like, I'm like, ew. She knows all the ins and the outs. But then, you know, obviously, like, they broke up and stuff. But still, I was just like, who does that? That's disgusting. That's weird.

That's some, like, weird, like, kink, pathological shit that I can't, like, that makes sense of. That's next level because that's not only intentional. That's, like, premeditated thought of planned. Yeah. She was using. you to get to your own ex. Thankfully it was an ex like I didn't give a fuck about.

Thankfully it was an ex that was, I was already in another like relationship that with like a really kind person. And so I'm so glad that it was that ex where I'm like, all right, you want to fucking closeted gay man to like beat you? Go for it. Is it a gay man?

Still closeted. Heated rivalry? Wait, what? Who's so tall? Do you what you just found out about heated rivalry? What? What do you mean? We've never seen it.

I know. I know. So I've never seen it and you guys were hyping it up and I feel really bad for shutting down Jenna because we were all like, what are you talking about? I know. She was the first. We were making fun of her. I was the first before everyone.

Okay. I watched this show a long time ago and I was obsessed with this one actor because he played, it was like a show about the Catholic church, but he was the hottest guy in the show. And I just found out he is in heated rival. His name is Francois Arnaud. Hello, Scott Hunter from the New York team. Won the fucking championship, baby. And then.

Kiss on the ice. Okay. I want to say, I watched 30 seconds of it last night. And within, just listen, within 30 seconds, I was like, this is, that was the hottest scene I've ever seen. That scene, the opening scene, the two men just outside dressed so good, look so hot. It's like right at the gate, it's there. Okay. I have a question.

All right. Guys, because I had planned. We can still be friends. this right because I'm a mom and I can't watch all I can't binge anymore so I was going to watch this alone because I'm like this is a show I need to watch alone but then do you think that this is a show that Aloha and I could watch together or no is it like an alone thing there's an entire revolution happening with straight men it's becoming where the like divide of like can you watch and comment without being it thank you and if you can't you're gay that's what it's kind of it's what it's

down to because it's showing all these like positive versions of masculinity on TikTok now because of the show. Like because there's a whole Filipino and Boston, no, New Jersey white guy couple on TikTok. She forces him to watch and he's watching from here and she's like this kind of off camera. You could only see her nose in her eyes. And he's commenting the entire time. He's like, yeah, get in them cheeks. Crack him in them cheek. It's so good.

It's so sweet. And he's admittedly, like, holding one of her boobs because he's like, I'm secure with my sexuality, but like, I got to hold a tit while I watch this. You know, like, and it's so, it's so endearing. Yeah. And the trend is really, like, showing that there are men out there that are fucking cool. And there's this whole podcast called the Empty Netters, which is two or three ex-hockey players who have a podcast. And this happens to just now be vogue. and now they're able to comment on it

and they're getting so excited about it because it's not even about the hockey about how the guys are hooking up and being in relationship with each other and how they're so excited for them and it's never been a thing that straight guys could comment in culture. I love this.

It's really cool. In the sports world. I love that they doubled down with a very masculine, like macho. We fight on the fucking field whatever that ice ice thing. We fight on the ice field. Rink also is like the gayest field.

I know rink. I'm like, geez. Like you're just sliding. But I will say that whenever I argue with a straight heterosis male about watching any type of queer sex that has to do with men, they don't understand that they feel like, well, you're forcing me to watch this, and I wouldn't have watched this on my own.

And I'm like, you know, how many queer people have been forced to watch heteroship all day, their entire lives? Disney? Yeah. Like, from the time their children. More like straight love stories, you know, because heated rivalries, there's so much love and there's friendship and there's communication.

Oh, don't even get me started. I'm going to call Aloha and see if he'll watch it with me. You guys, okay, he has to. watch it with you. And if he doesn't cry at episode five. Okay, okay. Then he's gay. Sam. No, he's not gay. He might be by curious.

No, it's just a really tender show that surprised all of us. We thought it was just going to be smart. And then it turned out to be like actually great characters. Okay, let's see if you'll watch it with me. Does he answer alone? Babe. Will you watch this new show with me

when I get home? Yeah. It's about, it's called Heed. rivalry. It's on HBO. And it's about a hockey team and lots of hot, steamy gay sex. Oh,

it's perfect. Okay. He's straight. Okay. Okay, babe. Thank you. We'll watch it later. Okay. Bye. He's so strange. Should I test Dave? Yeah, yeah. Text this right now, please. He's so not phased by

like gay anything. Good. Why would you be? I'm like, would you hook up with a dude? And he was like, Hello. Dave? Yeah. I have a question. Are you recording? Yeah.

Okay. Would you be... You're doing your recording a podcast voice. Okay. Would you watch Heated Rivalry with me? I would watch it. Yeah, of course. Oh. Okay.

Yep. Then you're straight. Dave, you're straight and we love you. And that's all. Wait, that's it, but I'm curious why. What's the, this was the test of some kind? Because if guys don't want to watch heated rivalry, then they're secretly gay. Oh, that's interesting.

I mean, maybe. Man, you guys are obsessed with finding secretly gay men. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed. Let them be secretly gay. What's the world? No, because the secretly gay men are hurting other people. They're ruining the world.

They're rooting things. I'm not tipping my toes under this. This feels too loaded. Okay. I would happily watch it. I mean, a lot of my friends have watched it. They enjoyed it. Okay.

And I love hockey. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. I'll see you later. Okay. Bye.

I'm going to take notes from that Filipino and record Aloha from like a little camera. I will say that the sports thing, this is where like I'm toxic. Like anything about sports, I'm not going to be able to watch. it. Why? Yes, there's out. Sparts. It's just so boring.

Whatever I said, I'm like that too. Yeah. My partner is a sports gay, so he watches sports. Oh, sports gay. I know.

Wait, so he loves. He's also Eagle Scouts. Oh. Wait, that's hot. Yuck. That's hot. No, it's hot if you like the outdoors. Not even because you can like,

I'm like an inside city gay. But you can think about like what if we ended up in the outdoors, Daddy would save us. That's hot. He can't do shit. He can't do shit. No.

He's like, he knows how to tie knots. Okay. Hot. Yeah. My favorite thing to watch is another man approach my man and ask him to help him with fishing knots on a boat. That is so. When other man asks my man for help.

She was like, let me get ready to get ready to tie him up. Honestly, like, so my man is like a man's man's man. Other men always need his help, whether it's with their car engine, whether it's with roofing, AC, fish hooks, anything. And he's always so calm and like, he's like, yeah, let me help you there. How do you want it? And I'm always, how do you want it? How do you want it? How do you want it?

How do you feel? Isn't that a king to watch him help other men is like my favorite thing? My favorite show on earth. Does that turn you on? Yeah. God, if my partner changed someone else's tire. I would fuck him on the asshole. For sure.

Are you serious? Bitch, me too. That's the hottest thing ever. Oh my God. Being able to do things. Like fucking jack up the time. Boy, you know how to jack up the ass. Yeah, I do.

I don't want to. Yeah, Jenna, you do all this stuff. Guys, this is the issue with me is I am. You're the man. The man. So you just need the girl or whatever form that is. No. No.

No. Okay. I mean, Not saying that I wouldn't fuck a woman. I'm just saying like the male version of that. Like what it? No, I want someone to double down, whether it's male or female. I want them to double down and be like, I'll change the tire.

You don't want like a little twinky man to take care of who's like good at math? No. Oh, good at math. You know, like brings in the money and he's like, ours really good at math. I'm kind of string bean but a big dick. No. That's my man.

That's my man. That's my man. The pectoris excavate him with her chest. just like sunken in. Their dicks are so big. Huge dick, bird bath chest. Yes. Yeah.

Truly. What his response would be? See if he'll watch. He did rivalry with me. Hey, Chiqui. Hi. I just have a question for you. The tone of your voice tells me it's a funny one.

What's up? I have a question. You know that show that you've been around when I'm watching and there's like a lot of naked butts on the screen? It's heated rivalry, the one about the hockey show. Yeah. Would you watch that show with me? Like, if we were hanging out, would you watch it with me? Yeah, watch it.

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Well, you were the first one because we introduced you first. You put Bowen Yang and Joe Kemp booster. I honestly told them to put that up there just to elicit rage. I'm pissed. I told you. The two of my biggest competition up there.

Guys, this whole time he's been like looking at both screens. So you know how like, no, it's the first thing on the agenda, which is so rude. She did say to put it there to make you mad. It's so crazy.

Because you went to Chinese New Year's. I was like, oh, we're just going to skip over hot gay Asians. And no Peter. can. For the longest time, like, Asians were just competing for, like, fucking any role, right? So, like, you'd go to the room and it would be, like, you know, the Bobby Lee's to,

like, Stephen Yun. Like, the range was so great because it was like, they're competing for just one thing. Now that, like, every, there's so many roles, like, what is your, do you find yourself, like, still competing with, like, the gay Asians? There's not so many roles for, yeah. There's more, like, of an idea that there's room for more people. but I feel like it's not like there's a lot of roles. Yeah.

Yeah. We're still going out for the same stuff. Yeah, that's the issue is that people are like, oh my God, everyone who's booking it is Latina and brown and black and it's like, no, they're not. And if you look at the percentages of like what is actually on TV, it's still so low. There's just more of us now trying to get it because people are emboldened. There's also less of everything right now. Less of everything.

As the white woman, let me speak. Okay. Give her space. We're all. The white short. Make space. Woman. As a white pregnant woman, there's less for everyone.

So I don't know. I'm just trying to say. This is racist what you're doing with your hands. Oh, my God. She's a buddha. This is racist. On the lunar New Year. Honestly.

I'm just trying to say that I relate to if that's okay. If that's okay, I can relate. You may relate. Okay. Keep going. Keep going. No, there's less, but I think there's more of the inclusion of a Gajian on TV because Bowen Yang was on SNL. Yeah.

We're all still going off for the same thing. There's like more possibility not to speak on Gajuns, but like in my situation. You should be able to speak on Gajuns. Yeah, thank you. So I feel like there's more of a possibility, but there's not actually, actually, factually more roles. Yeah. And no one's, yeah, it's kind of a weird. fucked up time right now.

So weird. But you are a part of the hotgajian, by the way. I would just love it to be reflected on the agenda. Now that it pissed you off, now it can be added. No. I mean, I love that they're around and they're out here working. It makes it easier for me to be able to like position myself to be like, hey, can I do something? And it's not like, why would you?

You know, like it's been, yeah. Speaking of now that I'm not trying to do the CBS Diversity Showcase anymore because it's done, Is that done? It's done because I auditioned for it last year and they were like, we actually stopped doing it now. No. They canceled it. No.

But I was in it like seven years ago. Okay. And I was in that position. You were already in it and you wanted to do it again? Well, I was in it. And then about like, I don't know, 40 days in or something, I was like really, I mean, I was dealing with some health stuff, but I was also really sticking to what I thought was funny.

And I was being told stuff like, well, you. You wouldn't really be a yoga teacher, would you? I don't think you would really be cat. I was being told that type of stuff. You're not Indian. They only wanted like white people to, like, constantly being told like, like, oh, well. Like, you wouldn't really play that.

And it's like, yeah, I would though. Yeah, yeah. And this is not inclusive in what it's supposed to be. Kim, can you please have a look at the agenda now? Number one, Peter Kim. All can. You can barely even see who else. And then Boni and Joe can boost her in tiny font.

You can't even see it. They're not even there. I'm manifesting this for 2026. This is my fire horse. Yeah. Wait, I'm loving this. What? Everyone makes fun of me because I wake up and I drink hot water.

Who makes fun of you? Literally everyone. That's like literally no one. Literally for sure no one. Because I've been doing it for like 10 years because not only in the morning but I don't drink cold water. I like it warmer. Thank you. Thank you.

We don't attack on the system. No one likes ice. Oh, wait. I like, see? You're drinking ice water. thing in the morning. I had an iced tea this morning. No, I don't be drinking.

No. Sure, it's fine. But like first thing in the morning, cold water, hell no. Even room time. It needs to be warm. Okay, this is the whole like, I'm Chinese TikTok trends. What is that? This creator Sherry.

She was like, um, sorry, now you're Chinese because now you're drinking hot water in the morning. Sorry, now you're talking about like Yang energy versus Ian energy. You're Chinese. And it's like this new, yeah, like, trend that's going on. People are taking her, it's like Eastern medicine. TCM.

What's TCM? Traditional Chinese medicine. And she's just like filtering it through like, yeah, do these things. Like you're Chinese now. So now do these things. Like that's what Chinese people just do. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh, now that I'm Chinese, I'm drinking hot water now.

And it's like a black girl, you know, in Texas. And everyone's kind of adopting this thing. I love that because that's like very positive. Yeah. It's great. It's kind of like old. Like we've had this But now it's just become like a trend or trend

I've always been Ajima so Ajima hot water Yeah the hot water thing is like a clothing Do you drink hot water in the morning? I drink well if it's on my bedside Because I'm a fucking camel I drink so much water It's in the night too

Room temp is fine too Room temp I don't drink I don't have ice in my home It gets no I don't do ice I don't even have ice in the freezer But wait can I ask you a question about drinking water at night. Do you, like, so let's say you have your water and maybe it's like from the day, whatever, and then you have it on your nightstand. By the morning, do you consider it expired? I drink so much that it's finished, but I always, in the middle of the night you're drinking it.

No, I mean, right now, I'm not a good example because I am breastfeeding, so like you have to keep drinking water. But usually by the morning, I change out my water. Yeah, I don't like old water. Unless it has a calf, like something over it. Is this count? Because I feel like, It tastes expired in the morning. Then, yeah, change it out. Yeah. Why does it taste expired? This is what I do in the morning.

It's in the air. I go to bed. I fill up just this amount because I go, I'm not going to drink this much at night more than this. So I fill up a cup that only has that amount in case like I have anxiety. I want to take an Elthianine in the middle of the night. What's an althene? It's an althian. It's an amino acid that really helps with anxiety.

What? It's good. It's in green tea. That's why they say green tea or like matcha. Like matcha. gives you a smoother caffeine high. Because it has caffeine with althianine. Oh.

It's naturally occurring in it. Oh, that's what that thing is. So you could take that like a pill for it? Yeah. Just that. Whoa. Yeah. Are you guys all on it?

No, I was taking it when I was off my anxiety meds and it was not doing the trick. It was helping. It was helping. I'm on Lexa Pro. Lexer. Okay. I'm on FXer for a while. Yeah.

After I got off Zoloff because it was not. match. Yeah. And then I got an FXer and it was also not a match. Affector's very particular. Yeah. I was in high school. The FXer's been around a while.

I will say if you ever plan to go off of it, be so careful and taper how they tell you to fucking tape. When I miss one day, same. I'm spinning. Can I tell you I missed one day and guess where I ended up? Jail. Close. Close. Here.

Like in. Same. Same. in a in a psych hospital. What? Yeah, I've been in a psych hospital three times. Wow. Yes, cutie.

Thank you. But no time since you've met me. No time since I met you. This is a psych hospital. Yeah, no, I was like. The lights are bright enough. I was so just not very good with my meds in high school. Like you would skip them?

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Must be an active subscriber To receive free dessert What's the Chinese thing? Or Eastern medicine thing that you guys do do. Everything. Do the acupuncture? Yeah. So I've done it.

You've done it? I would like to do it more. Cupping. Cupping. My mom would cut me at comb. That's great. That's so nice. Yeah.

And she was not trained. She didn't even watch a YouTube. She was like, I could do this. I'm like, blah. And she would like practice on me. And it hurts, you know. It's fucking hurts. It's crazy.

When they bleed you out. Yeah, they bleed. The person that we go to, they bleed you before they cut you. Yeah. What are you talking about? It's bloodletting. It's blood let. Why?

They cut you. It's like to relieve pressure points along the chi or whatever. Yes. Yeah. Yes. You've ever heard of leech therapy? I've heard of it. Yeah.

It's like similar. It's bleach there. Oh, no, leach. Leach. I bet you guys only. even know that like that maggots have a place in a hospital and I bet you've never been to like a specific like wound care scenario. They win this bet what what American hospitals or Filipino? American. What do you mean they're keeping maggots at the hospital? Yes and because they they eat away at the dead tissue in a wound so you can medically place certain like a mac. They don't get a cream for that. We're still using maggots. I don't believe her.

That's crazy. Please look it up. I swear to you. I'm eating. You better not have an infection in your leg. I know. I like it. Be honest.

But it's the same way that we've used leeches in the past. It's the same way. But we're not a hospital. That's what I mean like we used to use leeches but now we're cuffing. No, maggots are so efficient at eating dead tissue and things that are gangreness or really infected wounds. Maggot debreed therapy. Oh my God. Yeah.

This is, and it's very effective. Chronic, non-healing wounds that have failed to respond to. So it's a final resort. It's a last resort. I don't know that it is. They're using conventional methods first, like creams, I feel. What's a cream going to do to eat away a dead tissue? Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's just going to make it wetter. Don't have, like, bacteria that they're then just reinfecting the wound. No, these maggots are more specialized. Yeah, yeah. They don't just pick them off the trash, Jenna. They went to Ivy League. Yeah, and I think it's a very specific fly.

Oh, I forgot that. Oh, it's a common green bottle fly. Why did they fly? Ew, is maggot a fly? Yes. It's like the, it's the worm. It's the worm. Ew.

It's the worm of the fly. Is that what a maggot is? Oh, that's bad. What the fuck are we talking about? Like butterflies are way different. Caterpillars are like, I'm going to fucking roll up. It's cool.

I'm going to throw up. Caterpillars are like the gay larva. Like they're beautiful, amazing. We love them. And the drag queens. Okay. But really, are they healing people? Yeah.

They make me happy. You know what? Butterflies live for what two fucking days while maggots are doing the hard work and actually treating like wounded patients? Don't make it telling that because with my correlation, maggots would be just like regular straight men who eat off of people who like, oh, I see what you're saying. Magids need better PR.

I support a magnet. Go for it. I support them. I appreciate their hard work. Take it on. Woon care. Thank you for your service, maggots. Only the grown.

Only the grown ones in labs. So only men grown in labs are acceptable. Wait, heated rivalry. Oh, did you say heated rivalry? No, but let's not. Okay. So another. Well, it's weird because you guys aren't caught up, right?

Yeah, we're not caught up. They're never going to get caught up. Yes, you are. By the way, now that your husbands are. watching it with you, you better be ready to have sex with them. Their husbands are going to watch it alone. I'm not ready for that. No, you're going to get so horny.

My asshole hair hasn't been waxed in a long time. My cheeks are not ready. That's about your asshole hair. Yeah. I will wax your asshole hair. You all do that. I'm not asking to be waxed. I'm in a period of letting everything grow out.

Thank you very much. Well, then it doesn't matter. I also just don't want to be touched. What? No, I don't have asshole hair. You don't? I lasered it. You lasered it off?

I lasered it. Because I'll tell you. you what? I am paranoid of what are they called the things that I'm scared to get? Bingleberries. Pinworms. Oh. And so it's like an irrational fear of pinworms. What is that?

What the fuck? I see why you don't like her having being here. She gets nasty. You get nasty. No. What's paperwork? No, I'm going to know. This is not the part that bothers Esther, by the way. The part of the bothers her.

is just me saying like I had sex. On pinworms? No, like I was riding him. She's like, oh, look at her. The way she says it, she'll be like, I was fucking, my man. This is the least disgusting thing I've ever said to Esther's pinworms. She doesn't care about that. Can I just say you're also being treated in a double standard way right now? Because I just brought up maggots and like, I feel like it was like, I have the same reaction.

No, but it was still pretty like well received, I would say. No. You let me finish. No, I actually think that's worse than this. Then it wasn't about Kalila. It was about the maggots. The maggots. Maglets.

It's about me, not the pinworms. What's going on with pinworms? You don't want to get it, so you didn't laser your hair? The hair has nothing to do with pinworms. Okay. How do you get pinworms? They're underneath your nails. If a lot of kids have them.

You've never had worms, Peter? Worms? Yeah, I have not had worms. Listen, and then. I've picked up worms from the dirt. Yeah. No, no, no. That's earthworms.

I do that too. Have you never, like, had worms in your butt? Worms in my butt Yeah I mean I've had men with tiny dicks If that's what you're saying That's a whime in your butt Yeah

You guys are losers Wait why did you have worms in your butt Listen As a kid Kids get pinworms That's why they're always digging in their butts Why oh my god I saw a kid digging in this butt the other day

And then they don't Pinworm They're not clean about it Okay It lives They can live for 18 days alive Without a host So they're living on your

Couches your upholstery your rugs. And then when people go to clean their bedding and they go like this. Well, you don't have kids, so you're fine. No, but I am naked in suspect places. No, no, no, no. But little kids, dirty kids.

Well, actually, they're not dirty kids. They're just kids, yeah. But they go like this. And then all the eggs fly off. And then you can inhale them as well. And that is how you get pinworms. How do you protect yourself? You just don't put your fingers in your mouth.

How do kids get them? They're just around each other. They're very like fecal oral, right? They're very in their butts and in their mouth. And they're doing that all day. And how you test them, you know, it's a really cute way to test for worms. They put a little, they get a little piece of scotch tape. And then they scotch tape your butt.

And then they release it. And then they put it under a microscope to check for a larva. Thank you for knowing the right way. Because people think that a tape test is that you put it on your butt and then worms come off. I've had so many friends be like, I don't have pinworms. because I did the tape test. I'm like, they're not coming off on the tape. I'm just checking for larva that are microscopic.

Microbiology come through. I'm so glad I know you guys. If you ever need help with your worms, you know who to call. Wait, did you guys see that Dr. Oz called alcohol? It's okay. Is he still alive and speaking? Yeah, he doesn't look good, though. He looks bad.

Does he still have a show? No, he's like a, he's like works for the government now. What is his job? The HHS, yeah. Yeah, he's the health human services. Oh, that's bad. What is, that is so upsetting. Didn't he put, say like, don't drink first thing in the morning.

Yeah. So this is what's so shady about, I mean, obviously everything is a mess. But like, alcohol is bad, but actually you, it's okay to have, it's okay to drink alcohol. And two drinks a day is fine because it's a social lubricant. And so have, he said, the most important thing is having a nice. time with your friends, that's the healthiest thing you could do for yourself. Okay. Just don't have it for breakfast.

Yeah. Which to me is like, I don't trust you at all, obviously. Yeah. But it's so demeaning to the people of America to be like, you need a social lubricant. Yeah. And I understand that some people do feel that way. And that's, I get that. Like, but for someone in power to be like, you guys are so stupid and so shy.

and so shy and weird that you must drink so you can go out and socialize. This tells me two things. One, they want people to continue being drunk and drunks and sick and reliant on the health care system.

And they don't want them to heal and they don't want us to be thinking straight, right? Because then you can't plan and figure things out for yourself. And number two, they've got like a deal with some liquor company. Alcohol sales are down really bad

because the new job. They are. Young generation is drinking. Yeah, they're not drinking. This is literally an economic statement. Yeah. It's like, I mean,

it's so obvious. It's so obvious. It's George Bush after 9-11 being like, the best thing you can do is go shopping. Yes. Yeah. Like that he's like, go drink for the economy.

That's the health guy. And that's why they got him to say it. Look at those three men. Oh, it looks so bad. Oh my God. Look at the three men. One of them is red. That's RFK Jr.

Yeah. Honestly, his color looks like that of an alcoholic. You know, alcoholics have that, like, fake tan? The purple face. You know how when people become president? Like, they look so bad four years later. It's like, that's happened to all these men in six months.

Like, they... Who's the other guy? He's just a body. Let's just call him that. Wait, Dr. Oz looks unrecognizable. I know. Look at RFK. But it's just so shady to be like in the vein of health.

You should drink. That's so sad. That's disgusting. That's really sad for our people. I think it bothers me in particular. like I think because it's a very sensitive subject from because of my grandma like seeing how she deteriorated compared to her siblings who were not drinkers I'm telling you if you saw that you'd be like I'm not I don't want to I don't want to drink

like and they always like kind of like tie it into the conversation that I guess Scott Galloway kind of sends that similar message to where it's like not not enough young men are going out there and getting drunk and like socializing. And the idea of that is that not enough men are getting out. They're turning into incels, right? He's not the head of health. But what's upsetting about that is that why does it have to involve this toxic thing you put it in your body?

As an excessive drinker, as someone with extreme social anxiety, who used alcohol as a crutch for so long, who used it as a social lubricant for so long, do you know how easy it is to fall, like to go past that line of like into like dangerous territory? So fast within a couple weeks. Yeah. I became what I didn't think was an alcoholic, but looking back, I'm like, I binged. I binged. It was Thursday through Sunday.

But because I got my schoolwork done, because I, you know, work was not compromised. I thought it was okay to drink and take shots, like six shots before I even left because I was too broke to fucking buy drinks at the club we were going to, right? So I would like get it all in now. But if you were to ask me if I had a problem, I'd be like, no, I don't have a problem. I just need this as a social. lubricant. And it's like, no, I was literally fucking tearing my body apart, right? That's so sad because you already know that some people's lives are changing because they see this, they believe it.

I wonder though, does anyone even listen to this shit? Yeah, they do. Really? People do not here, but people do in others. Who's waiting for Dr. Oz to tell them it's okay to drink. I feel like that guy's already drinking. You know what I mean? He just feels better about the message. He's just like, I'll see, I knew it. Let them feel better. I mean, I don't know if any of I saw someone comment. They were like, if I have to hear more of RFK and Dr. Oz, I'm going to have to have alcohol for breakfast. I was like, I love you.

That's so good. I do think that there are other states, though, where people are like being encouraged by this, specifically younger kids. And look, listen, I wonder. I love a good night out. Alcohol is fun. Just not like two a day sounds like the weirdest fucking message ever.

That's crazy. So weird. That has to, You have to look at that and be like, what's driving that? And I also do want to like give a disclaimer that I'm also coming from a place of a family of alcoholics. So I do understand that there are people that do have healthy relationships with alcohol and it's fine. But that is just where I come from with, you know, my, what I'm bringing to the table. But I still think that this statement is absurd.

It's so sketchy. It's like very obviously, hey, we need money. Yeah. We want it in the easiest way. Because then they say it's down like 78% or something. Yeah, it's crazy. I did not know that. Something like that, yeah.

It's because Diddy's in prison and he can't promote Surrah. That's a problem. Baby oil must be down too. No, truly, Johnson Johnson's catering. I saw this TikTok where this girl was talking about how she, throughout like pop culture media, you always see the girl sort of be okay with her object of affection, being ugly and never the other way around. Never a hot man chasing an ugly girl, like ever.

And I want to say that I think that the reason I've dated like, I'll go after, I'll go after I'll go, is because I'm a victim of society. You're tricked. Yeah, I was tricked. I don't think I have a predisposition to loving uggos. I think that society did this to me. She's calling your doppelginger and ugo, just to be clear.

Stephen Yun. Yeah. No, I don't think I've dated, but you know what I mean? What is an ugo? Can I just get that defined? Does that mean just not hot? I guess. Someone who's maybe not like, because like maybe not like standardly attractive, which by standard

like someone who's standardly attractive is so boring to me. Like it's kind of like seeing something in full symmetry and display and you're being like, where are the crap? Yeah. I don't want to touch that. Like I don't want to touch that. Like I can look at it. Like oh, you're cute.

But there's no. It's like a museum piece. It's not interesting. There's no like dimension. Like the hot hots. Yeah. But I feel like girls have been. taught to be like, hey, dig deeper.

Like the Seth Rogen. Dude, Marcelo Hernandez talks about that in his stand-up special. He's like, dudes are so fucking petty. Yeah. Whereas, like, he was saying, like, if women bring a dude around who's not like a fucking 10, and they're like, hey, I love this dude and he's great to me and we're happy the girls are like, okay. And if a dude brings around a girl who, he's like, they'll find anything wrong.

If her forehead is too big, like, the way they pick apart. women as a whole and as a culture is why I think this exists. Yeah. And also maybe men are really just trying to show off. I think so. I think that's definitely like program. I feel like they just want each other to be like. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like it almost has nothing to do with women at all. Exactly. Men are obsessed with trophies. Yes. Heeded rivalry. Back to it. The trophy that they won.

Yep. Do you know any girls that like only date hot guys? I feel like I have seen that. And what's that about? Wait, my friends who write lists about what they want in their relationships, it's like, I've seen like 16 bullet points and none of them have to do with what they look like. It's like is in therapy, has a sense of humor, can be compassionate, can be empathetic, yeah, feel safe around.

Like. Can laugh at himself. Yeah, none of it has anything to do with how tall he is. Yeah, or if he has butt hair or not. That's the only thing I do think I am shallow about is height. Oh, your height elitist too? A little bit. Like, I love my short kings, but because I'm a bigger gal, I need to feel smaller in comparison.

Wait, where are you a bigger gal? I'm five foot eight. I'm, you know, chubby. Yeah. You're five foot eight? I have a big face. Even for Koreans, this is like extra large. Everything to Koreans is extra large.

I know. I hate it. I hate it, but I do seek Korean male attention. I know exactly what you're talking about, but this is why I never ask or try to get validation from Koreans ever about beauty stuff. Because how do you do it? Because like anytime I'm around someone else, they're always like, wow, your jaw, your bone structure is so good. You do this and that. If I go to a Korean, they're like, no face too wide.

I'm immediately out. I'm immediately out of the running, right? Yeah, I know. Because our beauty standards like this. Yeah. You have to fit a like a pinhole. Yeah. But that's not even real beauty then.

fist face in Korea this is like an adage where like if you want to be on TV your face has to be

the size of your fist if it doesn't My clothes Yeah kind of What are they hiring A frog Yeah

Because all your entire facial features Have to be like Or you can't be on TV Guys What about this What about me Jenna

My fist Yeah your fist No your closed fist. No, it just doesn't close. What are you talking about? Wait, this doesn't make sense. Like, wait, this just reminds me

of the Beetlejuice guy with a shrunken head. That's what they want. That's beautiful in Korea. Like the smaller, the smaller the head, the less thoughts. Yeah, beautiful. Well, you guys brought up,

like, having a list of what people are looking for in someone, whether it's looks or insides. I am against that completely. List. Yeah. List in general. How do you search? Well, no, I just think if you're having a list of the criterion.

It's not requirements. It's like what you would like, what you're looking for, what you want to bring in, what you want to manifest. I think even that, you're setting yourself up to be looking for something specific. And then you're going to meet someone organically and you're going to be like, well, they don't have they don't check this box. And then you're going to be too picky and you're going to be single forever. I don't know. I will say that my two friends who I know who did this, they did it as like a manifestation and they literally found they have two kids.

I get that that is. And they didn't, the men didn't have everything on the list. They were just trying to get away from what they were looking for in men before, which was like bad shit that was just like a type, which as you know how I feel about types. Types are fake. They're not real.

You're saying just be open to surprise. If you have this idea in your head of what you're looking for and then the person is a great person but they don't match it, like you're not, you're just going to be passing over everybody. Okay. This is what happened to me. my hubby because he is not my type.

I've struggled with this as a petty shallow Korean. I was like, how could I be with someone that's not my type? When you met him, did you go like this? No, his face is tight. He's so gorgeous. He's hot. He's gorgeous. Like, I met him in the wild at like a CAA party.

He used to do those photo boots. And I, um, fancy parties. I didn't even know that you, he was your partner. And I was like, this man is. so gorgeous. Gorgeous. He's like gorgeous, Minnesota gorgeous, which is like they don't know. That's the best kind of gorgeous.

You know that? Midwest gorgeous. Minnesota and they're nice. No, I'm from Chicago, but all my mom's side of the ones from Minnesota. They're so nice. They don't know what they've got. No. Yeah, they're clueless.

They're clueless. And it's because they don't leave that like no one really finds out. Yeah. But he's Minnesota hot. So like that was not my type. My type was like bad boy, treat me shitty. I know, like, really like young person type of thing. And then when I met him, I kept like thinking like,

why isn't he this physical thing? Or like I've always wanted this type of guy. Like I only hook up with this type of guy. And he was just not any of those things. But it is true that you like, you miss out on it because you're like, I wasn't ready until I met him. That I could be open to like, sure. Someone great.

Not about ugly or anything like that Because he's hot But like he's just never been my hot You know It's like some people think Johnny Depp is hot That's not for me And not for me either Yeah but like I get it

It was kind of like that I was like oh you're hot but like Not for me Yeah something happened in my childhood Where it It led me on a road Where I just date anyone All colors all heights

All anything and whatever trauma I endured where like yeah like where a physical just didn't come first even though I was like oh yeah thank God for my mom beating me I guess but something happened to where I didn't find that but also it's so fucking stupid because when I was younger it's just the the gay I'm the gay sorry sorry the Asian man wasn't like the standard of beauty right and so anytime I would like even when I dated Bobby to me Bobby is a very handsome. And I know people are like, you always said like he's so hot to me. When I met him, I was like, he is so attractive to me. Everything about his style, his voice, his look, everything about him. And people could not wrap their feeble little minds around the fact that I found a person grew up in Asia around a lot of Koreans, a lot of Chinese, Japanese, Filipino that I found this Asian man highly attractive. It was so infuriating. I can't even.

The way I was gaslit into believing that, oh, he was ugly. He was ugly and I'm like, he's not. Like that used to really piss me off early in their relationship. So much so that I played into the fact that, oh, yeah, yeah, he's a gargle. He's ugly. No, the truth is I find him extremely attractive. Yeah. I don't think people outside of Asian influence understand that.

Yeah. Because he's only been in the media as someone you don't find attractive. Yeah. As this TikTok thing is, like, we've been groomed to find Bobby not attractive. Yeah. Oh, poor Bobby. He's so rich and single. Okay, you know what?

You saying that you'd been with so many different men physically, wait, I was like having a thought. It's very rare for me to have a thought. Okay, to me, a type is already a list. And they're looking for a type that is usually not good for them. You were looking for a type. You were looking for a type. So to have a list that gives you a direction of like, I actually am going to pay attention to men if they're funny. going to be attention to men if they are making me feel safe.

That is going to lead you and spark something in the better direction because now you have a list versus a type that's like a list in your head anyhow of men who treat you like shit. I think we're both right. I agree with you. Are you looking for someone? No. No? You're done?

Yeah. Okay. You're done. If you were looking for someone tomorrow. Tomorrow. Where would you start? Esther's. Oh my God.

That's such a hard question. No, nowhere. Would you use escorts? No, I'm getting a dog named Dave. No matter what. Esther would start at a mall if she had to start over again. At a mall in the Midwest. Where would you start?

I tell Eric this all the time. I'm like, if something happens, I'm shutting it down. Yeah. I don't want to do this again. Yeah. It was so much work. You know what I mean? Like being in a relationship of so much work.

So much work. And it's good, gratifying work. But if thinking about doing it, all over again feels crazy. Yeah. I think I would want to be like Andy Cohen. I would start at this point in my grave. You would just go straight to the dirt.

So someone I know is dating a guy who is a widower. Like he lost his wife. She's like struggling a little bit with that because she's like, you know, it's kind of strange. Like his relationship ended but like not because of. Right. He didn't choose to. He didn't want to.

Yeah. It's been an interesting topic of conversation amongst me and her. her and others, which is like some people, they'll lose their partner and they don't want to move on. And I think some people lose their partner and they do want to move on. And I feel like the person that she's dating is someone that wants to move on. And like he deserves to move on. I just, I hate that there's like a struggle there because people should be allowed to move on.

But I also fully get that there are some people that will not want to move on. move on. Like I think both options are so valid. I don't know. I would love like a great garden situation. Yes. I'll be there with you. Oh my God. Yes. Let's move in. That's done. Yeah. Just singing and in costumes and being completely out of my mind. Deteriorating house. Yes. I don't. Yeah. I did. I had the love of my life. I understand like being open to love again. It's just the work. I don't know if I could do the work again. You did. I think that, yeah, I didn't have a defeatist fucking mentality like all of you guys. Okay, but Bobby's still like in your community. He's your friends still.

You guys still like each other. It's different. Yeah. And I still in many ways like take care of him, right? You're family now. Yeah, we're family. It's like fully Tito Bobby even to you. The only thing that would get in the way for me is like, God forbid I would have to like start over again.

But I would start over. I love you. Yeah, you like... I love love. Yes. I love the work. I don't know if I love love love. I love the feeling.

I love the work. I love the transitions from the high honeymoon phase to like the more grounded love. I love all of the chapters of it. I love that. I love the safety of companionship. I love holding hands. And I want that always. Not because I'm just chasing that feeling, but because like I truly like love partnership.

Yeah. You're like being in a sense. It's not necessarily a feeling that you're chasing because that feeling of, feeling wonderful goes away real fast. Yeah, I'm a flock animal. I got to be alone. You're not. I'm good with being alone.

And I also feel that I never thought I would find a partner in the situation that I found. And so I'm like, I can't believe I've found this once. Like, I'm not going to expect twice. I don't know. That's kind of how I feel about it. Yeah. I always thought we're ugly. You guys could definitely find it again.

It's not about that. But it's like that's not the reality, right? It's like you could yell out the window and find a partner so quickly. I think it's like it's just hard to, yeah, it's just so hard to fathom that like the person that you currently like love that you could possibly have a life without. I think that's, you know. But reality is that there's always a life. There's always a big life at the other. But also it can stay big whether or not your inner relationship or not, you know.

You also have children to. So it's such a different thing than me. It's different. Okay, so a friend of mine from Minnesota has offered her uterus to us. I know. Oh, my God. And I'm like, should we move back in? I have the chills.

I know. Oh, my God. What would that look like? She would carry. And then we would be like a family. I know. But who's a, who's a, who's? No, she would just want to be a surrogate.

Oh, okay. But I wouldn't mind, like, if we're back in Minnesota, to be, like, a family. This is your biological mom. Yeah. Because, like, I don't, yeah. Also, then to have three parents involved sounds really nice. That's sad. Yeah.

Yeah. I have two of my best friends. They're a lesbian couple, and they've asked me and my partner if they could use his sperm for their baby. Okay, what does he think? What do you think? I love it. I don't got to have no baby. We.

There could still be a baby in the community. in the family that's crazy for that. Wait, she's crazy for that? Yeah. Because of his sperm. Your face is showing that you love it. I can't. I want to know what you think.

Okay, so before I had a baby, I would probably be like, I love it. Yeah. And I think what happens is my brain has been like warped to really be very mindful about who you get into these lifelong contracts with. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, but these two women I'm like trust for my life. Yes, but it gets to be complicated emotionally, psychologically, not even just for him, but for you to see that there is this life that's been born of him.

That he's a father, that he's a biological father. I know it sounds like you're theoretically like wonderful. But you're not like that. No. Sorry. I want to be left out of as much as possible. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think I would say like, yes, that's like a beautiful feeling that you have. but before you agree to it, I would really, like, dig deep. I haven't agreed to it. And obviously, he is doing a lot of thinking because... Oh, this is, like, on the table? This is like, we brought it up for, like, six months ago. Wait. And he really wants children with me, okay?

With you. Yes. And you don't want at all. It's not that I don't want. It's just like, I'm so focused on, like, I just want to have a career. I can't think about anything else by and I know. She's not in that space, yeah. But I think about having kids with him every day.

for like the last three years. Then you cannot do this. Oh, this is not what I was. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no. Because if you have. This is mad. Thank you.

Thank you. I thought you were done. I thought your tubes were tied. No. No, no, no, no. But I don't even know if I can have kids. It doesn't matter. No, you'll adopt your own.

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm not adopting. I'm tired. I don't want to raise a kid. But you know. You just said you thought about having kids with her. I think about it all the time. Jenna, because I know you think about it all the time.

Jenna feels away, which my favorite quote, which one of my friends said this. I don't take credit for it. But when you are in that mode of you're deciding to have kids or not to have kids, both options are terrifying. Yes. Both options are terrifying. And that is, I stand by that. It's so true.

He hasn't said yes or no. These types will ruin your life. I just came back from being with them. No, they're going to ruin your life. You can't do this. You're going to have hatred in your heart. They're going to make my life so much better. That's going to be a demon seed.

I wonder, because you're weird. You know me, know me. I could see you maybe being a, maybe it working for you. I know for me, I'm very like, I would have,

I would feel left out of that. Like, then my child has a sibling that's not, you know, and I know this is like a selfish take and it's, I don't think it's a selfish take. I think it's like your mothers

and you have a better understanding of this. I think I wouldn't like the feeling of my partner having a child. that is not also my child. But it is my child, too. May I pitch something to make it actually your child? Because adopt. So what if it was your,

yes, yes, yes, yes. Your egg and his sperm, they carry. Yes. But they raise your child for you. But I think that might even be more of a mind fuck because that's, you're biologically in it.

That's mine! Yeah, but you're not raising it. You see those monkey toes. It's mine. You see your face within her away, but you don't want to raise. They'll do all the hard work. They really want a raise.

Listen, I think it's so noble and a wonderful thing. They might not want your child. They might want their own child. Yeah, I think they want their child. They specifically want his sperm. You're going to feel left out then. Great. I don't know.

That sounds dangerous. It's like, I think like in theory it's so noble and beautiful. You're not noble or beautiful. It's just like I'm tired. No, I'm saying the idea that you are giving them something they've always dreamed about, which is a family and a child. This is something that you're like, hey, I'm open to that. It's wonderful.

Like, what great, what a great way. But it's also selfish because I want a child somewhere around there. And I know that R wants a child. And so there's a part of it that's also for me that's not just like I'm a nice, noble person. It's like, oh, I could also kind of have. Have your cake and eat it to? Yes. But listen, we haven't.

You got to pray about this. You got to pray on it real hard. I'm just not going to do this. It's crazy. I mean, it's mainly up to him. What is he? No, it's you. You're in the relationship.

I know, but like if he says hell yeah, which he's like light years away from saying. He just wants to jerk off into a cop. No, he's not like he's a little more sensitive about this stuff than I am. Like being a father. Like he really wants to, but he doesn't take this lightly. Like I'm like, oh, okay. And he's like, when I even just with asking him, he's like, okay. Oh, he's speculative.

He's a thinker. He's a thinker. You're not a thinker. You're not a thinker. You've never had a thought. No. Today I almost had one thought and then I forgot it. And it was only about heated rivalry.

Do you think that he's anywhere near interested in this? I think he's not a no and that he has been thinking about it. But I think that he would lean more toward no unless I turn like 45. I have no eggs on the table. And he's like, okay, well, this is my only shot because I want to be with you. Impossible. You PCOS, you have so many eggs. Well, does someone want to pay for me to freeze them then? Yeah. Tell me the cost.

I don't know. You don't know what you guys know. I know the cost. I have a good doctor too. $10 million? That's not. I wanted to freeze. If I could freeze my eggs, I would feel like, okay, deal. How about this? If I have a really good financial year, no, if I don't want you to.

You just ask if I could fucking pay for your eggs. If I have a really good financial year and things actually pick up in the next. like year and a half, I will, without ever even mentioning it ever again, I will, you could freeze your eggs. I don't know about that. That sounds scary. Do it. I think that if it's like, if it will bring you relief and that stop being in limbo, I would be scared to. What about harvesting eggs? No, of taking the deal. Yeah. Oh. What am I going to do? I'm scared. Get the eggs back if I'm angry. No, no. No, I'm just like scared of borrowing money from friends. Yeah. You're not borrowing. Because I've lent money to it's a gift you're going to gift it I'm gifting it no she doesn't have to pay you back no she's been

been my lifelong she's been we've been with a new year you're the horse you better fucking get on this bitch this horse is leaving you asked for this because you said who wants to pay for my egg but I was looking at the camera meaning the people you want to pay for your eggs okay how about this let's do a fundraiser and then you match it no we put a tear on the patreon Jenna's eggs yeah Jenna's eggs on the Patreon Yes, why not? That's something that I would do a go-fund me for actually. Do that.

I think that that's nice to offer, but just to like speak, articulate for her how what's coming up for me, it's like, I don't. To articulate for her what's coming up for me. It's scary to receive that much much. Like, and it's just like, it's so scary. It's scary.

But I'll shake just your hand. What's going to, What is so if, listen, if I had you, by the way, I know. I know it's not about me feeling like I owe you something my entire life. I know. I understand that, but I wish that we would have enough foundation of a decade-long friendship to be like, you know, I already know, Kalila. She'll forget about it at the moment.

I know. I've tried to Venmo her once because I was leaving for a trip in 2016. Someone stole my bag at the, someone stole my phone out of my bag at the Urban Outfitters. Kalila, without even thinking, I call her. sobbing like I don't know what to do I'm going to go I'm going to Verizon right now Venmo's me $500 until I made more money and could try to pay her back I thought about it all the time yeah I owe her and then I tried to Venmo her back and she Venmo's it back to me and she's like bitch don't get me started like I will be in a Venmo war with you and she goes

and if you send it back it's sitting there so no one gets that money but I promise you I don't remember that story thank you for remembering I don't give a fuck if I'm in a position to, if I'm rolling in it, sliming in it, if I don't have it, I don't have it, right? Right. But if, like, if I have it, like, why the, here? No, I get it because that's, like, my goal to have money to literally be able to be like, oh, let's go out to eat my friends.

Oh, you need something. Oh, I got you. I got you. Like, that feels good. It is. Yeah, like, that even makes me uncomfortable. Like, when Jenna will pick something up, like, for me from Air One or something. And I'll be like, what do I owe you?

And she's like, no, like, you have to tell me what I owe you. Oh, yes. Just like, just tell me. I'm like, we'll figure it out. No, I'm like, figure it out now. Like, I don't want. And then I leave and she, like, three weeks later, two weeks later, one week later, every week, she's like, hey, so the Air One thing that you picked, I'm like, I don't know, I have to look at the receipt, dude.

I don't know. You don't want to tell her how much it was? Yeah. It's like, I don't remember. It sounds like a lot of work. Yeah. I'm getting mine. No, I do want to get paid back, but it's hard when it's like a friend who's so close to you.

And it's like. I know you don't want to, you're like, you're like almost like her. in a way where it's like you want to be chill and it's like it comes back to you but i'm also poor so to be chill yeah and i don't i'm not chill about money i'm so not chill about money i'm like if i owe you if you owe me like let's figure it out oh if i owe someone i don't owe people that just reminds me that's what yeah that's what it feels exactly but you're right i do understand it coming from point if like if i owed someone i there's a reason why i don't owe anyone it feels gross and i oftentimes as you guys know i'm running errands for people or picking things up for people it adds up yeah

I oftentimes have money. And I want to be able to ask you to grab me shit. Yeah. When your place is. That never comes back to me. That's like hundreds and hundreds because I go like, oh, that was only $5. Oh, that was only $10. Oh, that was this.

And then I'm like, I've got six people who I pick something up for. And now I'm like, why don't I have money? Yeah, you need to keep track. It is true. I think Venmo has helped me because I go like, I'll just, um, Venmo request you. Yeah. Yes, there you go. I have to apologize to you.

about what happened outside. This is so good. Can we move it to the Patreon? Yes. Is that cool? Mm-hmm. So Slugs, continue this conversation over with us at the Patreon. It's about to get heated.

Rivalry. Heated rivalry again. Yes. And thank you so much for being here. This flew by, but we have so much more to get to. And we'll see you on the Patreon or we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. I'm B'n't know

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