Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Popstars & Sweet Treats w/ Caroline Goldfarb

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Trash Tuesdays unofficial reporter on the beat, Caroline Goldfarb is back in the stu this week to deliver exactly what the doctor ordered: Thoughts on the Wendy’s/Katy Perry drama, Jessie Reyes’ relatable new song, snack recs, beverage recs and a popstar trivia game that everyone is good at?

You look so cute. So do you. You're so skinny. I don't. I'm not. I'm feeling fat. You look so... I'm so fat.

Your skin looks so good. I've never been fatter. Since when do you have really good skin? I don't. And that's a lie. No. Since when? I don't know.

And your hair, is it darker? I went darker. You did? Do you like it? Do you like it? Seriously? My jaw is to the floor. Do you like it?

I'm jealous. I'm mad at you. You have the same pink color hair. No, I've always wanted, I'm mad at you. It looks so good. I actually, I did it myself. You could do it. You can die. What made you do this? I was getting sick. Remember it was so light. I used to have all those highlights. I was like, it was gross. It wasn't cute anymore. I can't believe how good it is. You really like it? You don't understand. I don't, I like it so much. I don't like it. Like, I'm mad. You hate me now? Yeah. Oh my god, I did it. Yeah.

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Caroline, I don't wanna like seem rude. You're like a 10 now. And I am instantiating before you were a five. Are you grading on a curve? I'm so far from. I think you're just responding to my hair being darker. But there's something about it. No.

I promise you I'm still on it. Was your hair not dark before? It was a little lighter than this. Esther's just has been through the whole color journey. I just said, I have a thing for really dark hair and I feel like this is the hair she's always supposed to have had. Like it's making your skin glowy.

Sultry, sultry, it brings out your eyes. Mm, I wonder what, it's not, nothing has changed. It's just the hair. Or yours just- I'm having a good hair day too. Maybe your hormones are starting to balance out and you're starting to swing back into lesbianism. Oh, the world is right again.

Yeah. Esther's horny for women. The lesbian took a break, let's be real. I know, it's so true. She had a baby. Yeah, you went hetero for a bit. This is true. Focus on the baby and now you're focused on what matters.

It's objectifying your female friends. Yes, thank you. Finally, she's back. We missed you, babe. Like, wow. Yeah, you got, you get so horny, and this thing happens. You get the like big pupils. Do you know what I'm talking about? She tried to undress Jenna on set yesterday.

Yeah, but I'm not, Jenna's not hot to me. Like I let her titty sometimes when she's wearing that shirt like that, she knows what she's doing. Okay, she's asking for it. Oh yeah. Well, she's like your sister. Yeah. I do not do that to my sister.

I do not try, let's be clear, that is not a sisterly move. Well, Esther's not attracted to Jenna sexually. Right. So that to me tells me that they're more like sisters. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah. But I'm more of like a second cousin. Like I'm around.

And we know she has a thing for cousins. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. You're around, you're accessible. I'm around. I'm around at the family events. You see me not every day, but you know, it's a little exciting

when I pop around into Esther's life. I'm not gonna be able to focus. Yeah, you need to chill. Babe, I promise you I'm still ugly. I don't know what I have to do to prove this. Take your sweatshirt off. I can't, I don't have anything underneath. You know you're skinny too.

Acne, does that do anything? Why is that hot? I don't know. Has there ever been a time I didn't have a butt pimple? No. No. They're always there. To breeding ground. To Petri dish always there. It's a breeding ground. It's a Petri dish back there.

It's honestly so upsetting. Wait, is acne like on the in between? Everywhere. I hate that you just asked that question. I hate that you have never had acne and you had to ask where it is. No, no, I'm asking because I'm self-conscious and don't want to say where I have it.

Liar. It can be all the way in deep or all the way just the whole perimeter. Okay. It can be anywhere. I get it in the fold. I'm not going to lie to you. In that sort of that meaty fold

between the upper quad and the act where the starts. Oh, that's not the fold I was thinking of. The crease, which will, oh, you were thinking the coin slot. Yeah. I mean, I've probably gotten them in there. I just don't see them. But I really feel them in the crease, the other crease.

I'm definitely a back knee person. Oh, you don't wanna know what's going on on my back. It's all kinds of mess. Same, chest, I have a chest pimple right now. Yeah, I have to spray my body down with- With hypochlorous acid. I do just like a full-on body acne spray now when I get out of the shower I feel that I feel like you're so far away from me. Why don't you come closer?

you Filthy nasty You're like Harvey Weinstein right now He's like you Lou I just called you Louis by accident. Esther's gonna start d***ing off with me in the room. She'll give me the option to leave, you know? She'll be like, you don't have to stay, but we know what the power dynamic is.

There's a plan right there. There's the plan. Oh wow. And it's all happening. You know, I'm so obsessed with Harvey Weinstein's What we do you know about it took a gander? This is so nasty to bring up option. Yes Wait, really? Wait, I thought that it was out there that you know people talked about this cries his pee It's I never I never never never wanted to, never wanted to know, never wanted to hear about it. Like keep that, keep it out of my brain forever.

Caroline. Women thought it was a vagina when they saw it. They thought he had a man-gina. What are you saying? What do you mean? He's had a lot of medical issues. I don't feel bad talking about it because he's such a monster.

Oh yeah. And I think it's important that as women, we are free to ridicule a man's genitalia. That's really important to me for feminism. And what my favorite thing about this is, is that the way this came up was by me, just existing. You brought this on yourself. Baby Harvey over there.

Baby Harvey is freaking me out. Anyways, stapled to his leg and he's got a mangina. Just, you know, something to think about. So you're saying he probably has a micropene. Probably. And it's like throughout the assaults or like you? Yeah, I think you know something to think about. So you're saying he probably has a micropene. Probably. Oh, like throughout the assaults or like you? Yeah, I think so. Inverted maybe even.

Yeah. Anyway, Esther, that's how I see you now. And if you keep it up. With your micropene. You're giving me big micro-p-r-y, or maxi-c-l-e, I'm not sure. You're giving me maxi-c-l-e right now. That's a really nice way to like reframe.

That's what a therapist would tell someone who's like sad about their micro-p. And like, why don't we try to reframe this? Oh. A little maxi-cle. Yeah. Super-cle. But you're super-cle away.

I can't even speak. You're just so. Stop! I just have a thing for really dark hair, okay? And you, like I said, you're asking for it by walking in here with that hair color. Don't give me the Jenna treatment with the asking for it. Well, now I know, okay.

Did you guys do the homework? Yeah, of course. Wait, did someone tell you about the homework? I texted her. Oh, thank God, okay. We have our own relationship. Oh, I'm glad. I'm not jealous at all.

I'm glad. Clearly your voice didn't just change with totally different pitch. I'm glad you guys text. Okay. Look how close we are, Esther. Yeah, babe. How are you?

Your skin is so soft. Oh my God. It really is, right? Hairless. Cut to this, please. Oh my God, she's stroking the maxi. Kyla, can you tell me who Jessie Rees-Rays? Reyes. Can you tell me about her? Can I have this please? Oh my God, she's working the maxi. Karla, can you tell me who Jessie Rees-Rays?

Reyes. Can you tell me about her? She's just a very sultry, amazing R&B singer. Yeah, she's gorgeous. Songstress, and isn't she gorgeous? She's got a little Amy Winehouse touch to her. I have been on Jessie Reyes for years, but this particular song I want to talk about,

mostly because I feel like there are two sides to it. Probably just go through the lyrics. That's the best way to listen to a song is by hearing people secondhand read the lyrics. That's what I always say. Well, Klyla is a poet, so she's getting off on this. Oh, I didn't realize. I didn't know about it.

Wait, she's not British, she's Canadian? She's Canadian. Oh. Did you think that because the voicemail was a British guy? The song featured one of my favorite tropes in a pop song, which is a voicemail. Love a voicemail. Love, very underutilized pop trope.

It's one of my least favorite pop tropes. It's kind of like a waste of your time. Are you? But it gives you a snippet of their real life and the inspiration. Oh, you didn't think I'd fight back, did you? I don't like this. You thought you could just be so pretty

and you could just stay whenever you wanted. It's the jealousy talking and it's a really ugly look on you, okay? Wait, is that the SZA sweatshirt? Yeah I Do love Esther's SZA sweatshirt. I it's in all seriousness. I do did you get it at her show? Yeah, we went to the concert in Vegas when I was pregnant and we were the oldest people there by a long long It's hard to believe because I feel like a lot of people she's not like a young girl artist

That's what I thought. But in Vegas, when you're there with your 47 year old husband, you guys are feeling the feelings. You really feel it. I was the youngest person in audience last night. Where were you, little brat, little heart? I don't wanna take away from Jesse Reyes.

No, let's hear it. Do you guys know who the designer and sort of Bon Vivant Isaac Mizrahi is? Uh-huh, of course. I did go to his cabaret show in Beverly Hills last night and it was weird and I was the youngest person. I am, I am. Well, that's anytime you go anywhere in Beverly Hills.

That's true, that's true. Walk down the street in Beverly Hills, you will feel young, you will feel beautiful, you will feel healthy. It's all old people. Really gross people. Old, old people. Old money, old people. Old money, old people. I know, Trump flags.

And they're living long and they're holding on. They're going to doctor's appointments all day. But then Cedars is right there too. They're never dying. You're within a 10 mile radius of like 18 hospitals in Beverly Hills. They're staying alive. They're cockroaches.

We should really start hanging out in Beverly Hills. I kinda like going there. Yeah, no, it's, I'm not kidding you, I feel young. There's a Maru coffee there now. Oh my God, the old people are getting a Maru? That's kinda weird. Yeah, well, come hang out with me in Beverly Hills. Okay, wait, so how was your old person cabaret,

you little freak? It was so, so bizarre. I was like, why did I do this to myself? This is for men, gay men in their 70s. It's not for me. But anyway, Jessie. Jessie, do you wanna read it out loud, Caroline, cause the camera is blocking my view.

She's making you do it. Don't make me read the lyrics. I heard that men, men never choose of the sucks. The one that they really love is the one that they lose. She ends up being the one they daydream about in a suburban house with the woman he settled for. She was better for him, I guess. God bless, but it couldn't be me.

Okay, the next part? No, Kaililah, get in there. Okay, let's stop right there. I don't care if you can't see it. I have thoughts on the first verse, if you wanna go there. Yes, let's talk about the first verse. I am obviously a Jessie Ray's in every situation.

I am the girl that the guy's never picked. I have so many crushes on guys that have like moved on, they're married. And this is definitely a story I tell myself that I'm the one that they actually wanted. And I'm the one that they actually daydream about, but they couldn't be with me just because I was too vivacious and too interesting and too dynamic.

But I will say with age, I'm like, no, they just didn't like me. Like they would have fucked you and been with you if they wanted to and they had autonomy and choice and they chose someone else. And like, I can tell myself my little stories and I do, and I will continue to, but I am fully like, oh, I bet he regrets settling with the super gorgeous,

mainstream, palatable, successful, traditionally beautiful Western ideals woman. And I'm like, wait, no, yeah, he probably is actually happy he made that choice. But I am a Jessie, so I see her. I wanna be a Jessie. And I think that- Oh, you're the girl that they actually choose.

No, in that, obviously there have been times where I don't even try, because I know like I'll never be chosen. So I don't even go there. I don't even make myself an option for him, right? The second verse says, she's got her face beat and she's always home and she put to sleep every dream of her own.

And she lets you go cheat as long as you come home from searching the streets for someone like the one you let go. So basically, the problem I have with this is that the assumption that a woman who chooses to stay home, this is where I feel like personally offended. I'm a homebody, I don't do shit. Sometimes I don't have very big dreams. Does that make me the lesser choice?

No, maybe that makes me the better choice. Yeah. I'm the suburban bitch. I think Jesse's being kind of bitter right now and dusty. It's like he made his choice, it wasn't you. And it sounds like they're having a lovely time at home watching Netflix and ordering tie or whatever. Honestly though, I feel like I know these guys.

These guys that she's talking about, I feel, and again, I know it's very easy to go into her perspective because it's her song, but like I'm seeing it. I feel like I know it's very easy to go into her perspective because it's her song, but like, I'm seeing it. I feel like I know so many guys where like one little thing is off with a girl, they have one little complaint, and they're quick to end it. They're quick to move on, and then years go by,

and they're still kind of like not finding someone or they're on their own. And I really see the truth in this song for a lot of guys that I know, I think. I think I just don't have a lot of faith in men to think that they wouldn't be absolutely selfish to get exactly what they want. Like, you know, the assumption is that

he let go of the one he really loves in order to be with someone easy. And I don't think men are like, they will take the cake and eat it too. They want everything they want and they will have everything they want. They're not gonna settle. I think we're more likely to settle.

I don't think that men settle. You have no idea. And I don't think that the suburban wife, I don't think her being a home, anything is him settling. Like that's what his Barbie doll at home. He wanted his Barbie doll at home. He didn't choose you, Jessie.

No, you're wrong. Men do settle, but they settle like later than we do. Like we'll settle like in a snap, right? But like men, they'll be like, I'm not settling. And then they realize you have to settle. My dad always says that's why it's called settling down, is because you settle. Like, that's really nice to mom.

Do you think you're Dave's dream girl? I, or do you think he settled? Harvey Weinstein's penis? Maybe we go back to that. I think all of the things about that. Like I think that I'm all of it. I think you can't, I think this is crazy. First of all, there's no such thing as a dream girl.

Yes. Like fuck you for even thinking that that's real because you get your dream girl. Let's say the guy gets his dream girl. Then what? Look at fucking machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox. That was his dream girl. He got her Look at fucking machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox. That was his dream girl. He got her and then you fuck it up.

If you put someone on a pedestal to think they're your dream, you're your own worst enemy. They're your worst enemy. Like that is a nightmare. It's a ticking time bomb. I think all the relationships that truly work are the ones where both partners are settling a little bit. Okay, tell me more.

Yeah. Why? Why? Because they're being realistic. Yes. This is not perfect. It's not built on a sand castle of dreams. It's built on a real foundation of commitment.

Knowing that marriage isn't this magical dream girl, everything is magic, I got the perfect guy, marriage is work. It's a business decision. You are choosing for long-term compatibility and that's not always sexy. Settling is just such an ugly word because it implies something negative. Like we need to rebrand it, it's acceptance and practicality.

And there's some... Practicality really makes me like... But it's marriage. I know, I know, I know. I do get that. And I know that love eventually evolves into, like, just companionship and trust and above all else, right? Not this, like, passion and this fleeting, like, lust for each other or whatever. I get that.

Um, I do really want to believe though, that in my head, for me, it keeps the love alive knowing that I am someone's like ultimate. Like this was something he yearned for and searched for and he found in me. And I don't know if that's like delusional. Of course I accept, you know, once we get to know each other, it's like, okay, clearly I have a lot of flaws he hates,

but still, I'm the best he could ever have. I'm with you, but I am my partner's dream partner and vice versa, but it's after a lifetime of chasing the wrong people and chasing the wrong dream girls and dream guys, and accepting and growing into yourself and knowing, no, this and growing into yourself and knowing, no, this is what I need and want.

And then that becomes your new dream. Does that make sense? Can you call Dave and ask if you're his dream girl? Ask Dave if he thinks he settled. He did not settle. Esther's obviously Dave's dream girl. I mean, I'll say this. There's no way he settled because you're not like

an easy person. Oh God no. So I know for a fact that you're his dream girl. I just, I feel like we're really in a very positive, we love our baby, we love each other space, but I almost, it would feel degrading to that, to be like, oh, I'm his dream girl. I don't know, there's something about that. It's immature.

Yeah, I don't like it. And I don't, and it's almost like, it's making me think up, what is his dream girl? And of course I know there's qualities that I don't have that would be that. And I'm also like, that doesn't make me not his dream girl. I don't know. It reduces you to one thing.

Like it's, it sounds like shallow and cheap really. The idea of a dream girl. I see what you're saying. Yeah. I listened to this song. There's something obvious that I think about. That she spelled couldn't C U L D N T. It's kind of what sticks out to me.

We can totally cut this if it's like uncomfortable, but like. Uh oh. What is it? Black scent? You know what I'm thinking about. We can totally cut this if it's like uncomfortable, but like. Uh oh. What is it? Blackscent? You know what I'm thinking about. Oh, you're thinking of me and Bobby?

Yeah. Okay, tell me what part. It just to me feels like this is a song specifically about like that sort of storyline, which is like you're Bobby's dream girl. And like, he, I can't believe I'm saying this. It's like he couldn't really like make it work for whatever reason he like and then now he's like out there searching for like a you or something um maybe but I think that my

mistake in that relationship was that I actually was a suburban housewife and I did make things easy for him and I did put some dreams to sleep in order to really, like, what I thought was like, push him and focus on him. And my whole identity was wrapped up in his identity. And that was a mistake. I felt like I was the, very much like a doormat in that relationship where I just let things slide.

I put blinders on for a lot of things, and I'm like, behave however you want. I'll be here when you come home. And I think that part of the song, that's why I was like, I'm the suburban housewife. Yes, that feels very accurate. And why is that so bad that I'm that? Right, you feel attacked by that.

Yeah, I'm not the fun girl that goes clubbing, that is dangerous, like I'm a safe choice. I really feel like a safe choice. Do you feel like a safe choice? I don't know. This is like getting me so in my head. I'm like, who am I? How do you spell the word couldn't?

I don't know who I am or what I was or what is the guy. Am I my dream girl? Are you your? No, I don't think, I think I'm a challenging choice. I'm not a safe choice. I think I'm self-made. I like have a house. Like that alone, I feel like is so intimidating to guys.

That's such a flex. That is those two things. You're self-made, you have a house. Now I'm wondering, are you a challenging choice or an easy choice? I'm wondering, cause you're like cool and like out there. And on camera. The perception is, but I don't leave the house.

I'm actually quite boring. My partner is this beautiful social being who like loves people and I'm curmudgeonly and I like to be home and twiddle my thumbs. Aren't you like dynamic and outspoken and like a female founder? Yeah. Oh, that's right, Caroline. I feel like we all just contain multitudes. We have the Jessie in us

and we have the whoever Jessie is singing about. I think you're right. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be so black and white. Maybe Jessie's singing to herself. Like we don't even know. Maybe a random person wrote the song and maybe Max Martin wrote the song and it's really just about him.

Translated from Swedish into this. But I'm happy to learn about Jessie. I did like her voice. Yeah, go back into the archives of her. She's wonderful and she's amazing. Mmm. We're both of these girls is what you're saying. Maybe. Yeah, I think I just anything to move on from figuring out if Esther is Dave's dream girl. She's asked me this before and she's made me call him before for this.

Yeah. So sad. I forgot what he said. Or maybe we asked something else. No, he asked to rate you from one to 10. Oh, yeah. And he said 10. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. What do we think about Wendy's feud with Katy Perry? Can someone explain this to me? I'm behind. You of course saw Blue Origin this week. Yes. And were you inundated with all the content from whatever was Blue Origin?

Kind of sort of, we talked about it. I love how respectful you're being by calling it of its like legal name. Most people are like those women who went to space, do like blue origin. I know I can't help myself. I'm so proper like that. It was fucking annoying.

It was a waste of money. Like the whole thing was so odious. I agreed with everyone who was negative about it. Emrata, I mean, like they were right. Anyway, so everyone was clowning on Katy Perry because she's just such a punchline and everyone loves to dump on Katy Perry these days and her album tank, like it is a little mean to me.

I don't like bullying. This is a new thing that all these corporations on Twitter are really sassy and they wanna go viral and they wanna have hot takes. So Wendy's quote tweeted something about Katy Perry and Wendy's was like, why didn't she just stay in space? Or like can we send her back? Can we send her back? Oh rude! I know but it okay I actually usually think when corporations are sassy like this it's like really stupid but this one was like such a big

swing. It was a big swing. This was like a personal vendetta. Someone behind that keyboard was like, really has it out for her. They were right to do it, period. Like it caused, you know this bitch when you cause conversation. Like how many times did I think about Wendy's this week? A lot. How many frosties did I have? And who cares about the bad press

and like being accused of bullying? Like it was a big swing and it got them out there and it was funny, people were talking about it. To be fair, Wendy's I think truly needed a moment. They need their moment. I feel like Wendy's is sort of fading into the... I think you're right. I mean, look, I recently was on FaceTime with a friend

and she was eating their new spicy Parmesan chicken nugget, whatever. Didn't even know that they had that. Exactly. I was like, exactly. I was like, this is how I find out. Like Wendy's marketing has been in a slump and they almost needed this. And like they have a creamsicle frosty.

Well flavor. Creamsicle flavor. I thought creamsicles can be all flavors. The Hawaii just came out. No, where are you from? Orange and vanilla, babe. It's kind of a classic thing. Philippines.

No, that they have done you dirty there. Creamsicle is always orange and vanilla, babe. It's kind of a classic thing. Philippines. No, they have done you dirty there. Creamsicle is always orange and cream. I don't even know Penipig. Okay, but unless you, unless specified, raspberry creamsicle, that can be a thing, but it has to be- That's so rare. When you hear creamsicle, it means one thing. It's rare, but you see it.

It could, you could see it. You could, but it's orange. I think that Wendy's is kind of slept on in the fast food wars. Go off. I think Wendy's is really good. Does anyone else here eat Wendy's besides me? The fries, the fries are yummy.

They have great chicken nuggets, but for my spicy girlies, spicy chicken nugs at Wendy's. Oh my God, I'm gonna, it's getting wet. She's getting wet. I'm getting wet. She's dripping. I'm done, I need a towel. The spicy chicken nugs are so good.

And Wendy's is iconic because they have baked potatoes and chili. Oh, you're right, and sour cream packets. Yes. Whoa, wait, how about this? How about this? Wait, the're right. And sour cream packets. Yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Now creamsicle. They're always gotta rotate in third. That's crazy. You guys are gonna unfriend me. I literally have never had Wendy's in my life. That's not making me wanna unfriend you. That's making me wanna befriend you.

Yes. Chili and baked potato. Yes, my queen. I thought only Zippy's had chili. What the fuck is Zippy's? Where are you from? Where did you grow up? You guys, you don't know Zippy's. Get to know Zippy's. Not if we don't know Z You guys, you don't know Zippy's.

Get to know Zippy's. Not if we don't know Zippy's, we don't know Zippy's. Assume everyone watching doesn't know Zippy's. Okay, Zippy's, listen to this. Zippy's, you can order a whole, a whole gallon, I don't know if it's actually a gallon, of chili. This is in Nevada. I thought you were from the Philippines.

No, it's not, it's in Hawaii. She's also from Nevada. It's in Hawaii, okay, okay. Yeah, but it's like a Zippy's like everywhere there. There's a Zippy's everywhere in Hawaii? Yeah, it's their fast food. It's like the island fast food. All I know is that Wendy's really did need a PR boost

because they're like that small business where it's like once you like randomly happen upon it, you're like, this is amazing. Why is it so underrated? That's what Wendy's is today. Really? I think it's like, once you like randomly happen upon it, you're like, this is amazing. Why is it so underrated? That's what Wendy's is today. Really? I think it's not your fault you haven't been to a Wendy's

cause there's not enough Wendy's locations. I can only think of two in the Los Angeles area off the top of my head. There's that one random one on sunset and then there's one on Western. I'm so glad you knew about the one on Western cause that one is so small and tucked in. Like nobody knows it's there.

When I left the East side, it was under remodel. I remember in the remodel, it's so good. It looks so good, girl. Oh my God, they snapped. I know they did. Wendy's is so iconic. Remember everything used to be in yellow styrofoam. Yeah.

Like the aesthetic of Wendy's is so slept on. I'm sold. Oh, in the food. I'm gonna go to the one on Western. What dip would you get for your nuggets? I think sweet and sour barbecue if they have it. That's what I always get everywhere. Why, is there more options that I don't know about? No, they have a, their ranch is a buttermilk ranch.

Oh, I mean I do think it's like a notch above. No, no, no, but I respect you. To me growing up, it was always Burger King or McDonald's. Like those were kind of the two main stars of the show. But then I get here and I feel like people think Burger King is nasty. Girl, don't. Burger King is so dusty and washed up.

Why? They've fallen off so hard. They don't have an identity. The Whopper? The Whopper, but it just doesn't really stand on its own and they're searching for an identity and they're searching for an identity and they're always introducing new products

and the menu rotates too much. Yeah, the menu, like chicken fries, it's like crazy. They're trying too hard. They're trying too hard. Yeah. And they're always rebranding. I just feel like there is a quality issue. Maybe.

At certain locations, not all. And sort of hit or miss. But Wendy's is consistent. Yeah. I also, just while we're talking about pop stars, I really encourage everybody listening to search Wendy's chili training video. It's one of my all time, from the 80s,

it's a training video on how to correctly prepare the chili that was circulated. Wait, tell me how, because I have my own way. The thing is it's actually not about the preparations, really more about the serving. And the key thing you need to know is that when you pour that chili in that Styrofoam bowl, it's gotta be a half inch from the top.

Wait, what? Oh, I thought you were gonna say add mayonnaise. No. What does this have to do with pop stars? Well, it's cause it's a really good song. Oh, really? I mean, Jessie Reeves wishes, Ray is. Why do you know about this is like sort of the real question on everyone's mind.

I bring it up in every writers room and it becomes part of the DNA of the writers room. But I understand that you bring it up but I want to know how you found it. Not too know. Can you show me my favorite song this way? Chili comes in large or small. And the boys are too good. Oh, they even have lyrics. No, listen, because you can learn something. This is, that's the thing. Most pop songs don't have a message, and this one does.

Turn from the bottom to the top. You wanna get the chili stirred up cause it settles. Oh yes, I actually- It's a bridge. Binge from the top. Stirred with cheese. Chili can be served with cheese and you don't hear pop stars talking about that.

Look, Caroline, I don't want you to get too starstruck around me, but just so you know, I used to serve chili at Johnny Rockets. Wow. We had chili cheese fries on the menu. Wow. So I knew about stirring from the bottom to the top. Question to you both, none of you add mayo to your chili?

I almost like thought that was a dream that you said that. Yeah, I was blocking that. I was so scared you were gonna bring it back Point in the process do you add the mayo in the sound off in the comments? You have no one you're saying you have if you think that cameras not even on I think that you cannot eat it if it's fast food chili you have to add mayo Please sound off in the comments are am I am I people the only people that do this. Yeah, I'm I the only one Oh, it's a Hawaiian thing. There we go.

Mayo is the final ingredient that gets added to local Hawaiian style chili. So maybe it goes with the flavors of Hawaiian style. I think mayo goes on everything. What the hell? No! No! You guys are sleeping on this.

Please try it. I'm not a hater of mayo, by the way. I just want you to know, I see you. I like fries dipped in mayo. With the ketchup or separately? It's a separate, sometimes French style. I love a thick mayo layer on my sandwiches. I'm not a mayo hater.

I'm not a mayo hater. But there's something about mayo in a hot stew. Yes. That I'm just, I'm just wrapping my head around it. Can I challenge you guys to something? Please, please. Do you ever make a whole fish at home? Yes.

No, of course not. I know you would. Yes, of course. Only if I doesn't. Don't look at the child. You're talking about adult subjects. You can just look at me. Can you please do me a favor?

Yeah. OK. When you make a whole fish and let's say you're going to steam it, Mm-hmm. Do two things. Mm-hmm. Add your aromatics, whatever. Before you put it in there, add a layer of mayo in between.

When you cut the fish open and some Lepchang. It's like that Chinese sausage. Yeah. And add it in there with the mayo and then call me. Steven, for 45 minutes, however long, and then give me a call. Done. Everyone knows you don't know what Lepchang is.

You fucking fake girl over there. She does. She knows. I know she knows what Lepchang is. Esther, I definitely know what it is. And you know that because I nodded and I didn't break eye contact. So I know what it is, okay?

No, I like me, they say that the best grilled cheese instead of butter, you use mayonnaise on the bread. Oh, that's nasty. You're from Chicago. What does that have to do with it? So I'm fat? Yeah, they like weird gross processed foods there. I know, I know.

So cool it on the mayo hate over there. You guys don't dip your big beef sandwiches into a bowl of grease. That is crazy when I think about it. You get a beef sandwich at Portillo's and then they give you a side of the grease from the beef and you're supposed to dip it in. I think that makes perfect sense, Dee.

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We need to do a Skims Comedy Store event. I see you. I see you, Kimberly. I know you took over Mel's diner, but let's do something with the Comedy Store event. I see you. I see you, Kimberly. I know you took over Mel's Diner, but let's do something with the Comedy Store. You sent me this little thing about Filipinos being the biggest snackers in the world. Yeah, what's up with you guys? What's that about?

So we have just Miranda culture, which is basically like anywhere you go into Philippines, even if it's like you step out of school on your way home. Like, tell me the route you take home. You take a bus, you get picked up by your mom. Do you? How old am I? You're in elementary. I would get picked up by my grandpa and we'd go to Taco Bell. Where does he pick you up? Maybe in the corner? Yeah, like in the front of the school. How many steps approximately from school to your grandpa's car?

I don't know. Like 100 steps. OK, in that hundred steps, wherever you go in the Philippines, there's approximately three to four food stalls. And it's gonna be fish balls, it's gonna be pastries, peanuts. It's whatever it is, there's food stalls everywhere. And it's just a walking, eating, snackish culture. This is making me hate LA. But LA kind of has something similar if you go to like Los Callejones,

like that deep LA. Not in like the suburbs, no. Yeah, that's why like whenever I'm in New York, I'm like, oh, you're never like hungry and freaking out how to eat. Like there's always options. And in LA, it's so not like that you can be stuck in your car in traffic and like to get food is like finding parking, Googling a place. Like it's so complicated to eat in the middle of the day here.

She's not wrong. She's not wrong. We're all moving to the Philippines. And then it's also just part of our culture to ask someone, are you hungry? And then if they say no, offer them food anyways. And to always have food in the mix. It's just, I don't know if they're trying to like break some discomfort socially, but there's always food.

I love that. There should be always food. End of sentence, end of idea, like period. Here's what I think, Esther, in response to what you were saying. I say you create your own snacking culture in LA. When I get in the car for a cross city drive, you think I go in there dry without a cooler bag?

Yeah. Full of drinks, multiple, snacks, veggies. You've got to create your own Filipino snacking culture. Your own marrianda. Did I say it right? Marrianda, marrianda. What do you, give me an example of what's in the toolbox? I have some ice packets. I've got some, a can of Spindrift, any flavor. I've got a can of usually diet soda. That's my vice. Which which kind?

Cherry Coke Zero, babe. Oh, you're such a little slut. I love the Cherry Coke Zero. You're a little daddy's girl, aren't ya? Yes, yes I am. You nasty. Daddy likes it. But I try all different kinds of things.

Like I'm into tropical seven up zero right now. Oh my God. I'm getting limited editions. Where the fuck do you even find that? Walgreens. Yeah! I'm doing dirty things in my valet. You're paying top dollar.

Walgreens? I get a coupon babe, I would never pay retail on a 12 pack of soda. Are you nuts? Are you nuts? A bag of veggies. I have a little hydro flask Tupperware thing, maybe some hummus in that, a little bag of veggies.

Be more specific about the bag of veggies. What is it? Oh, Kaila knows. It's celery, it's carrots, it's, I don't know. It's whatever's in the fridge. Is it a store-bought hummus? Probably, I'm not gonna lie to you. Okay.

My mom would call it chichi burichi. It's whatever. It's a hodgepodge. It's a who's it, what's it. It's ephemera, it's ch tchotchkes like it's all of that There's a word in every language, but um I'm stock because yeah I don't want to pull over and get snacks, and we don't have fishball stands here So you know you got a there should be fishball stands. Oh chomp. There's always a chomp. Oh, there's my girl

It's always a chomp. There's a protein bar. I mean you know what my newest like on-the-go snack is it Because I'm like kind of like protein bars, I've like. They're just, yeah. They're always disappointing. There's not that one perfect option, but lately I'm traveling, I'm riding around with, hold on. And her Prada purse. Are we gonna not talk about the Prada purse?

I've had this for a while, I got it at the airport in Italy. So cute. It's my one splurge from when I spent money before. It could have been diapers for Ace, but it could have been diapers for Ace. I know, it's killing me. Oh yum. This is a bag of raisins and walnuts.

Sorry. Oh my God. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Just raisins? What's the red thing? Wait, get your little paws out of there. Wait, can I just pour one in my hand? This is not a walnut, you liar. Why Just raisins? What's the red thing? Wait, get your little paws out of there. Wait, can I just pour one in my hand? Yeah.

This is not a walnut, you liar. Why is it red? It's a red walnut I got at the farmer's market. Those are- A red walnut? Yeah. Oh, this is- Try it.

Have a raisin too. They're also from the farmer's market and they're really good. You know what this is called? This isn't just a bag of raisins and red walnuts. It's GORP. What? GORP is- GOREnuts. It's GORP. What? GORP is an acronym, good old raisins and peanuts. So it's when you make a bag of-

Did you learn this last night at the Beverly Hills event? No. It's your cabaret. GORP is a high- High energy snack, nuts, raisins and other dried fruit enjoyed by hikers and climbers. So is it just trail mix? A trail mix.

No, it's GORP. When it's just nuts and raisins and dried fruit, by hikers and climbers. So is it just trail mix? A trail mix. No, it's gorp. When it's just nuts and raisins and dried fruit, it is gorp. Guys, do not test me on my gorp. Gorp is one of the best words ever. So please sound off in the comments. I haven't heard an opinion from Kalyla yet. She's staying very silent for some reason

about my walnuts and raisins. I wonder what that's about. What do you? It's just, you know. Too good for a warp? Maybe I'm not in my healthy girl era and I'm really just pounding rice and heavy meats. Me too.

And yeah, it's just a little like, it's healthy rabbit food. You fucking bitch. So skinny girls, you're skinny right now. I'm not, that makes sense for you. This is, ah, I mean, each word worse than the last. Like daggers, like daggers. I have to say Esther posts,

I would say almost obsessively on TikTok about one food item. It's become a little, it's becoming odd. But after seeing 20 videos of you making your apple peanut butter yogurt snack, I was like, I guess I'll try this. And I love it. Have you been having it a lot?

Like tell me everything. Well, I haven't gotten the right peanut butter yet. I use almond butter. You have to, it's no. What peanut butter do you use? You have to get the Santa Cruz organic creamy dark roasted peanut butter. They sell it almost everywhere.

And if you don't find that and you're at a Walmart, you can get Smucker's of the same exact thing, dark, creamy, and it's made out of the same vat because Smucker's bought Santa Cruz organic. So you can get either of those options. And if you missed some of that, she's posted about 17 TikTok videos about it where she says that exact same sentence. So don't worry, you'll be able to find out that info. It's a great snack. It's high protein, it's sweet. Fiber in the apple. I know.

Fiber in the apple. Esther, you snapped on that one. I'm gonna give you big props. I use Siggy's whole milk, so it's full fat. It's like a Greek yogurt, but it's a skier, which they're basically the same thing. So like she said, protein, fiber, flavor, fat. Love a full fat.

Esther, why are you so against Envy apples though? Ugh, I've never tasted an apple that's as good as a Honeycrisp. I think you're so wrong on that. I think Envy is superior. Yeah, superior. It's way more flavorful and it's so crispy. Like the Honeycrisp. It's crispy?

Honeycrisp is- You had a bad Envy, cause Envy's are really crispy. and it's so crispy. Like the Honey Crisp. It's crispy? Honey, you had a bad envy because envies are really crispy. That's like their thing. Don't get an organic envy, which sounds bad of me to say, but the regular envies are better than the organic ones. Oh, you're so nasty. Is this boring for the audience?

Is this bad conversation? Because it's my apple that you brought up. Oh, is it boring? We got Esther talking about her peanut butter. Did Jay Moore talk about this kind of stuff? Wait, can we do an apple tasting thing sometime? Yeah. Yes.

You guys have Macintosh apples? That's an old school, that's like a 90s throwback kind of. That's like the basic. I know, I know, I'm just, I'm open to it. Everyone's shitting on your grandma apples. I'm not shitting on it, it's a throwback. Esther was also throwing shade on the Cosmic Crisp, but I like a Cosmic Crisp.

No, not for you. Lately I've been disappointed in Gala. Yeah, I think I'm gonna suck with a Gala. No, growing up I thought I was like, oh, I like Gala apples, not anymore. Nothing is the same as when we were growing up. And it's actually true. When you see all those Instagram things

where they break down the ingredients of, when we were kids, McDonald's used actual beef tallow or whatever, now they just use crappy oils. Everything is worse now, so that's not just chocolate. Does anyone still buy Red Delicious? I don't. I don't even see that. I certainly don't. There's all these new, like,

cosmical fake name things. Yeah. Are you kidding? The industrial farming complex has don't see that. I certainly don't. There's all these like new, like, cosmical, fake name things. Are you kidding? The industrial farming complex has moved so past that. They're like cross breeding, genetically modifying. Like there's like wheat in these apples. I don't know what's going on, but they taste probably not. They're delicious.

Okay. Another big snack for me. I'm so sorry. I know that I can feel that the room wants us to move on, but my claws have dug so hard in on snacking. What is it? At Trader Joe's, they have freeze dried strawberries, second blueberries and raspberries. Not the same bag.

These are separate items. What are the ingredients? Just strawberries, just blueberries, just raspberries, so yummy, so yummy. And no, it's not doing it for you. What's the point? Free dried fruit is always just- It's sweet, it's nice and sweet. And it's got a crunch.

Crunch. It's a crunch. Yeah. Crunch and it melts, it's like astronaut, you know, a little bit. Oh, Katy Perry had some. You know what it tastes like when you have ice cream, like strawberry ice cream,

and you get a piece of the frozen strawberry in that strawberry ice cream? That's what freeze dry. Did you guys ever eat special K with berries? Ah! Ah! Ah! Special K with berries?

Tell me that when you were raw dogging, a serving of special K red berries, twice the amount that the serving size will do too, when you hit those berries, that wasn't the best part. Of course. Did you ever have we talked about this? Did you ever go on the special K diet? Oh, of course. OK, now I'm with my people. Didn't take. You know, it didn't take, though.

Yeah, this idea of the special K diet was replace one meal a day with. I thought it was two meals. That's insane. Two meals a day with a bowl of nutritionally empty 100 calorie cereal like, yeah, you're going to lose weight. That's insane. Two meals a day with a bowl of nutritionally empty 100 calorie cereal. Like, yeah, you're gonna lose weight. I love the era of diets that made no sense and that were like basically criminally,

like they should have been punished by the Supreme Court. And just nodded and said, okay, that sounds reasonable. Like when I, my crazy like 10 year old self saw like special K diet, I'm like, I instantly in, and I bought every Special K product. They had Special K bars. Special K yogurt and berries. Oh my God. So gross.

Special K chocolatey delight. And it wasn't real chocolate chunks. It was chocolatey. Because anytime something says chocolatey, that means not chocolate. They're like how they can't say chocolate milk. It has to say chocolate drink. Flavor drink.

Yeah. Obsessed, that's what you who does. I'm so happy we're past the diet culture of the 90s. And I think it did probably ruin my hormones and endocrine system forever. It's pretty unfair. Like I would buy light, low fat yogurt and it's more sugar per ounce than a Snickers.

Because they pump up the sugar. That was the big lie. The low fat. Low fat craze. I mean, we know, this is well-trod territory. I know, but it's never dull. Never enough for me. Low fat, everything.

Imagine my whole family was obese and we were buying low fat pop, like low fat Pop-It-Tarts, like that's gonna fucking make a difference. I just, the snack waswell's double food cake cookies, when you taste how good those are, and like, there's just, there's still not a better cookie than the Snackwell's low fat, double food.

Do they sell these still? I will have them. They're still pushing the low fat lie. That's way more marshmallow than it used to be. And that's too much. No, I know what you're thinking of, I don't remember. Oh, Carnation Breakfast Essentials.

That one that just came up. That was another meal replacement diet thing. Oh my God. It was like Slim Fast. Remember Slim Fast? Did you ever have Boost? Yes. Boost, it's all the same.

Yeah, I know it's all the same. My mom was hardcore Slim Fast everything. I mean, that was depressing too. Those were gross. It's so sick what they did to us. I like truly saw boost in the wall. Every Sunday I would go through the Walgreens ad and like saw it there and was like, I'm getting it.

Did you also have that path time? The Walgreens ad specifically in my house, that was a very big deal. Walgreens, which by the way is gonna go bankrupt. Walgreens is all fucked up now. I know I'm really sad. I love Walgreens best coupon culture. You can stack coupons.

Best ads, best cats. So you guys were looking for health foods. I was looking for health supplements. And I know I told you hydroxy cut the other day, but remember Trim Spa? Of course. Baby do you like my body? Trim Spa baby.

I was like your classic eating disorder. Like I tried laxatives, but nothing ever really stuck. So I just. The one thing that I feel like I was like your classic eating disorder. Like I tried laxatives, but nothing ever really stuck. So I just. The one thing that I feel like I was a pioneer of was the magnesium citrate bottles that you could buy for a dollar or $2 at the pharmacy. Isn't that what you drink before a colonoscopy that makes you shit your pants?

Oh, it is. I didn't know that. Every Vegas trip in my 20s was a magnesium-saturated party. And that smell, that taste, it was like a lime, lemonade, whatever. Like, I can't even look at the bottle anymore because it was so disgusting. This is nasty, so you'd shit your brain out to look skinny. Would you drink it the night before? Like, what was the protocol? I'm not asking any questions.

What time exactly, be specific. Yeah, so I would run seven miles, come home, drink this. Girl. It is so stupid. This is why I have a heart condition. You guys think I shit blood just for fun? No, I literally destroyed my body doing this stuff.

But I take magnesium citrate in a little capsule sometimes. We all do, we all do. That's fine, but not in this amount. This is for like colonoscopy prep. This is for like cleaning out a machine. But I take magnesium citrate in a little capsule sometimes. We all do. Okay. We all do. That's fine. But not in this amount. This is for like colonoscopy prep. It's just like cleaning out a machine. Yes.

I didn't know you could get colonoscopy prep like just like OTC. For like $2. I swear to you, it was so cheap. And I... And by the way, the serving size is not the entire bottle. No, it wasn't. It was like two...

It's like one table spoon. How do you know? Because I saw a TikTok recently about a girl who said she was really, really constipated and her doctor friend said, go buy magnesium citrate, it's at CVS. And she didn't read the bottle and she drank the whole bottle

and she like shit for three days straight. Hey, that's basically what I did. That happened to me when I ate a whole tub of prunes. I love prunes. I love prunes. Prunes are dangerous. Prunes swell. I've never been in a room with people that love prunes.

Really? Well, hello. Prunes are delicious. They're like the best food on Panegra. I remember in college, they were on sale at Walgreens. When the prunes go on sale, you stock up. You be careful. Huge tub. I go, I'm just going to have a few.

No, that's the first lie you tell yourself. I'm just going to have a few. Oh, these are better than I thought they yourself. I was just gonna have a few. Oh, these are better than I thought they were. And I ate the whole tub. And within 30 minutes, I was curled in the field and just shuffled over. All my classes.

University of Illinois, champagne or whatever. They've never been the same. They're like, we can't start the class of Esther's not here. A little did they not. School's canceled all week. University shut down. I love prunes. I have to really exercise self-caution

when it comes to prunes. And I'm not good at that. But three in, I'm like, don't do it. I can't do it enough. I can't buy them anymore. And Ace was constipated this week. So we had to get her little pureed prunes. And even just feeding it to her, I was like,

smelling it. Can I have a bite? You get one, I get one. You get one, I get one. They are so good. Pit, no pit, I don't want the pit. The best prunes, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. Costco prunes.

I've never had them. They are Sun Kissed Kirkland Collab. Oh, Sun Sweet, excuse me. These, it's a big bag and it's really wet in there. You put your hand in there, you're pulling it out and it's covered in prune. That's a brand I had on the day. That's the good stuff.

They are wet. That's the good stuff. Why are they so wet? The bag is like this heft of a kettlebell. You know, like swinging that thing around. They have to be wet and they have to sort of stick to each other. That's the fun.

Just pluck them out one by one. Gets all over your hands. We should have a sleepover where we all eat a whole tub of prunes and then see what happens. See what happens. My favorite thing at a sleepover. Sleepover is not fun unless you're doing something and seeing what happens.

Ooh, that sounds good. Are we playing pop star trivia? Sorry, sorry. No, never, never apologize. Are we gonna hear the question read? Is it Jeopardy rules? Cause in Jeopardy, Alex, RIP or now Ken has to finish reading the question before you can buzz in.

That's what I believe we should do. Okay, so you might read it fast. You might know the answer, but Stella has to finish the question. In fact, if you raise your hand too soon, you forfeit your chance to answer. Oh my God. All right, all right.

Let's do it. Let's try this. I don't even care. Here we go. What is the name of the fan bases for Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and Lady Gaga? Esther. Beehive. Swifties, and Little Monsters. Ding ding ding.

I mean, I know it was easy. I just wanna say that everyone probably could've gotten that. I think we all knew that one. We start easy, then we get comfortable. Okay, good. Let's get it going. Question two.

Name two pop stars who originated from a TV singing competition. Esther. Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood. That was great. I was gonna say Fantasia, Who are the pop stars who originated from a TV singing competition? Esther. Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood. That was great. I was going to say Fantasia, but then I was like, does Fantasia count as a pop star? I think I would have not gotten that.

I would have allowed that if I was judging. I love Brino. Really? Yeah. She's so great. She hasn't had anything in the long... Yeah, but she was a great winner of that season. Yeah.

No, I think... She was second. Who won that season? Was. No, I think- She was second. Who won that season? Was that Ruben Stoddard season? It might have been. I'm actually very uncomfortable that I'm winning and I'm scared of both of them. Question three. What was Justin Timberlake's first solo album called?

I don't know this. Oh. Esther. Justified? Esther's killing it. I know all the answers, but I'm having a little bit of a delayed response on my hand. That's me with everything except for this. No, literally, I'm not, this is not my.

It's not your thing. It's not my thing. Okay, okay, we got this. This is gonna be bad. I'm gonna get beat up after this. Can we team up against Esther? Sure. Because she's like really good.

Yeah. Number four, what are the first names of the five Spice Girls? Whoa. Oh, Christian names? Kaila was first. Kaila, that was you. OK, so there's Melanie. There's Emma.

There's Jerry. There's Victoria. Wait, what? There's Mel C. You got this. Mel C. And there's another Melanie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Making a comeback. Definitely. Obviously, I could have gotten that one. Yeah. What was the title of Ariana Grande's 2020 album? 2020? Caroline, come on. Yes.

Positions? Yes. Yes. Well done. Yeah. Well done. Team, so it's 2-2, right? 2-3, 2-3, 2-3.

Oh shit. She had a real hot streak at the beginning. Okay, we're getting a little harder. Okay. The song Umbrella by Rihanna was originally written for which pop star? Oh. Kalyla.

I wanna say Beyonce? No. Esther. Britney? Yes. Oh my God. Who wrote it? Nio, right?

Nio. Nio wrote it. Wrote Umbrella. That's what I thought the question was gonna be and I was ready. And when I raised my hand, I was gonna say Neo. And no matter what happened, so happy I wasn't first. What is the name of Taylor Swift's second studio album?

Fearless? Fearless. Oh! Okay, we're still losing though. Name the members of the Backstreet Boys. First name. That's so hard. I cannot do that.

Lila. Kevin. Yup. Nick. Yup. Brian. Howie. And hang on, let me.

AJ. Oh, you fucker. AJ. AJ. She had... I had it. I had Belle's palsy. She had Belle's palsy. okay. Look, I'm not wearing sunglasses for you, so everyone can see. She's being so brave. Come on.

I should have tried for that one. What was Dua Lipa's breakout hit in 2017? No. Oh. Caroline? New Rules. No, close. Wow, really?

It wasn't New Rules? Pick up the phone, you know when it's gonna ring Drunken alone alone too. Wait, I'm so not- That's the one I- Don't lean on me, wake up early in the morning. It's definitely New Rules, I'm sorry. I challenge.

I challenge. It is New Rules and I'm really sorry. I had new love downs, so that was my fault. Yes. Boom! Caroline, you're- I'm coming back. We all have- it's interesting, we all have our little buckets. Yeah, we do. Like Esther's is obviously gonna get any Britney one. Yeah. Yours is like.

Weird. No, no, no, yours is like. It's basically, I feel like her. 95 to 02. Yes, like a specific era. 03. I'm a little older. Exactly.

I might have like the now pop stars more down. Yes, that's you. Than you guys. Yeah. Okay, so just so you guys know, it is five to four. I feel bad that we teamed up. We don't have a choice. I'll take it. I'll take it.

This is the final question. Number 10, Billie Eilish is the youngest person to win two Grammys. What were the two songs she won them for? Okay, I can do this. Wait a second. Okay, I'm feeling really old all of a sudden. Yeah. She did not win for birds of a feather.

No, no. Did she win for ocean eyes? No, I don't think ocean eyes. Oh, bad guy. I don't think she won. I just said Oscar. I'm not doing well. Somebody's getting nervous.

Maybe the Barbie song? Yes, she won for the Barbie song and then what about the Bond song? What's the Bond song? I don't know what it's called. She'd be asking about like Cisco. I think nobody gets this one. Yeah, I think Esther just wins.

She won for the thong song and Ave Maria. The final answer. That thong. Trying to keep things present. It was, but you were right, it was from the Bond movie and from Barbie. No Time to Die. No Time to Die and I didn't know it.

What was I made for? And I did know it. And if I distrusted myself. I'm sorry, I made you second guess yourself. No you didn't. I have a couple more. Yep, we're ready. Beyonce's Renaissance.

Okay, this is me. Is the first part of a three act project. What is the second act called? Cowboy Carter. Yeah. What? Guys. So it's a tie. No, you guys won.

Oh. Well, we did Esther dirty a little bit. Yeah, we did you dirty. It's fine. I think Esther won in spirit. I don't wanna win. She's afraid that we're gonna jump her in the parking lot. Yeah, I'm afraid of winning.

You guys care way too much about this. Yeah, totally. If you guys are scared, it's important for us to win. She knows it'll ruin our day to lose. Thank you so much. Kaila, it's you. I am an orchid girl. Yeah, you gotta take that.

Yay. Thank you. I have Bell's palsy, I deserve this. She has Bell's palsy. She has Bell's palsy. I can't even see half of this plant. Poor thing, poor thing. Do you wanna just do a couple

gimme questions just for Kaila? What's Kaila's middle name? What is my middle name? I don't know. Do you have just do a couple of give me questions just for Kalyla? What's Kalyla's middle name? What is my middle name? I don't know it. Do you have one? Yes. What is it? I'll never tell you now.

You've never told me. How has this not come up? It's because it's kind of a wild middle name. Penis. I feel like I did know it at one point, but I don't. That's an ass. Shit. Balls?

Close. Sylvia? No, you guys are gonna fucking. Sally? No, it's not't. That's an ass. Shit balls. Close. Sylvia? No, it's, you guys are gonna fucking. Sally? No, it doesn't, it's not even one of those cool names. It's Shangra. Shangra-la. Yeah.

Whoa. Basically that. But Shangra. Yeah. Very aggressive. Aggressive. Yeah, she definitely deserved to win that one. Thank you so much, Caroline.

What's your middle name? It's pretty Jewish. It's just Hannah. Oh, okay. Hannah is so beautiful. Great name, Caroline. What's your middle name? It's pretty Jewish. It's just Hannah. Oh, okay. Hannah is so beautiful. Great name, yeah, it's pretty. I think the Hannah is one of the prettiest names ever. That's a good name.

And because it's also like in Japanese, they do the Hana. Hana, Hana. Mine's not like that. It's like Hana. But also there isn't like, I don't know an ugly Hannah. I feel like having the name Hannah almost makes you pretty. I promise you it doesn't. I know some really ugly Jewish Hannahs.

Esther, what's your middle name, please? I feel like you could get it. I should know this, Esther. I feel like you might know it. Are you named after? It's Lauren. Oh, I did know that. Yeah, I didn't know that.

It's so basic. It's really basic. There's no rhyme or reason. Your parents snapped on Esther. Your parents went fucking crazy on Esther. You know, my mom didn't like it. I can see why. I think it works like,

I cannot imagine you with any other name. I think your name is one of your biggest assets in your career. Really? I think so too. I don't think you would be as successful if you were named Lauren. Because, can I say? Yes.

It is like a regal old lady, like legacy name on a very tiny young looking baby. That's like the whole joke of little Esther. It's like you have this old lady name, but you're a little baby. Whoa, I didn't even put that together. Really? It was like your whole stage persona for like 10 years.

This is a problem. This is a consistent issue. You should like lean into that. No, I mean, I look, of course you would be successful no matter what your name is. But I think Esther, it's part of your comedic persona. It's like a joke in itself. Like your name is funny.

You don't even have to open your mouth and you're funny, babe. Hell yeah, that's how I do it. Yeah, I mean, your parents had a wicked, wicked little sense of humor when they chose Esther. Wicked. Wicked for that one. You guys, thank you so much for being here. We love you.

Caroline, you're my little baby. Mommy loves you. Don't like it when you talk to me like that. Daddy loves you. No, it can't be both. Got to be one. Thank you guys for having me. What else can people, when they're obsessed with you,

we have your sub stack? Yeah, I'm so like lazy these days. We all are, it's okay. Yeah, sub stack, Instagram. And yeah, I'm working on something, but I don't think I can say what it is. I know, it's so cool. But keep an eye out in December, 2026.

She's way too successful for us. No, not at all. It's ridiculous. Not at all. Sluggies, thank you so much. And Kaila has a haircare brand at OceanClub.com. Thank you. I have a comedy store show Friday, May 9th. You can get tickets at the link below in LA if you're here.

And as always, we'll see you next week with a brand new episode. Thanks for watching!