Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Rockstars Love Ali Macofsky w/Jenna Jiménez

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

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I have a question. If you had to have a sperm donor and you could only pick out of the comedy scene. This is a good question. Which comedian would you laugh? This is a good donor. That is so stressful. Esther would pick me. I would pick someone Asian, I think. Oh, I wonder. Who would you pick? Someone Asian. Kalila. Yes. We have our first ever limited edition merch drop. There's very very very limited edition merch drop. There's very very Very few left, still available. But we just wanted to open up that opportunity to you guys. If you want of our Trash Tuesday shirts, we also have Trash Tuesday hats, which I left

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How do you have the energy for Coachella? I'll leave for one day. Ali is low-key. I don't understand it. I'm having a moment. I'm having a moment. I'm having a moment. And you know what?

She texted me. She's like, are you going to be there? Because you knew. I thought you were going to be there. I know. What is going on? Yeah, dude. How crazy is that bomb draw?

Colila. The fact that you have the audacity right now to look at me and go, crossed hands, as if it's normal. Hasn't left her house. Colila. After dark in 18 months. I'm a changed woman. Kalila.

Fake news because she's not even. Do you remember when we went to Coachella together and I had to drive everyone. Kalila got an Airbnb an hour away from Coachella. I had to drive because it was the only one not drinking. Everyone's there. And then at the end of the night, drive everyone back. There's nothing I care less about than to hear this story. I can't.

There's too much good stuff. Travel logistics of Coachella five years ago. Like, I don't want to hear the route. We were at Joshua Tree and we just happened a side quest to Coachella. No, she is, but she claims that she's going to, she's doing baby. be bedtime like she's at home by 7 p.m.

It's true. I'm only going for like two acts a day and probably like the one of the offer. I think that's the way to do it. That is how it should be done. I think that's the way to do it. And we're, I'm going to take my baby and we're going to be like, woo, look at the marionettes.

And I think I think when you're young, you can really rally and like do it all and you feel like you have to when you're young. I know this from experience from when I would go when I was young. It was like, I can't miss a fucking thing. Uh huh. And now I'm like, I just, I want to chill. I don't want to feel miserable the next day.

I don't want to be like sunburn and exhausted. Yeah, the older you get, the more you're like, I'm just trying to have a good time. Speaking of younger versus older, I keep thinking to myself, oh, I should have had kids younger. I'd have so much more energy. And then you know what I realized? I had no energy in my 20s. Same. It would have been the same thing.

Like that is such fake news. Even playing with my nieces, I'm like, I don't have the energy. you for this. Wait, you were going to say something about, we called you cool. What were you? You had something to say about looking like a bitch. Oh, no. I looked like I could be mean and spit venom. You look nice. And then you said you were

with me one time when something happened. You said you look nice, but you are a bitch. You said you look like a bitch. What's Colila? I look like a bitch. She looks like a bitch and she is a bitch. Look like a giant's con. I haven't seen you since you sent me Ebb. Oh, yeah. And I

I love it. She's my new ebb correspondent. Oh my God. I love it so much. And like I love the product itself, but I love the packaging. I love the twist top and the squeeze. It's so convenient and I love the spray.

It's such a vibe. I love it. I love it. I used it. I wanted to send you off to Coachella and be, you know, our eb correspondent out there. I use the like, what is it detangling spray? Yeah.

Like leaving conditioner spray. I used it as moisturizer for my life. Because I didn't have anything and it's so like, it's so juicy. If you're at Coachella dry in the desert, you can use some of your abs spray. Well, I use the hair oil, the excess because, you know, you're not supposed to put it in your roots. And I just like, yeah. Oh, yeah, but she's using the detainling. That's so funny.

Yeah. That's funny. Because, you know, I didn't wash my hair for two weeks postpartum. I hate hearing this. I don't. But my mom, she's like, where's the ebb detangler? Like she was like, I'm like, mom, no, I want to be tangled. But she did detangle me with them.

Yeah, I love it. Oh, good. Do you have like, are you selling big sizes of the shampoo? Eventually, yeah. We want to do a refill. No, no, there's normal size. Oh, there's normal size. Oh, I didn't give you the big size. No, that's okay. I'll give you the big size. I want to travel all the time. I love travel size. I'll get you guys whatever you want. But I was like, I need one for my home and then I need one for travel and I love the package it comes in, the blue thing. It's so cute.

We have so much to cover today. I know. What? Go. Go off. It's also. so funny seeing you now because you like are you have so much energy and seem in such good spirits and I feel like the last few times when you were pregnant and I did the pod you were like on death row I do remember like feeling you like couldn't have been more miserable like Ali and I need to reconnect because she's seeing a horrible version of me and like yeah we weren't close enough that you should be ready to have experienced that you seemed normal to me yeah usually on death row That's true. Yeah.

I try to keep it a little. But I want to meet your babies. You can. Yeah, I want to meet your babies. There's so much. I love babies. They're so cute, though. And how's baby penis?

Are you adjusting to boy? Totally I'm into it. Okay. You're into it. I'm on board. Totally easy, right? Fine. Not a big deal.

Not scary. I love that. Okay. Like, everything has changed. Wow. I love my son. And it happened immediately, too. She was like, he came out and she's like, oh, this is great.

He's so cute. His penis doesn't scare me. It's amazing. It scares me. Would you be scared of having a boy? Well, yeah, I wouldn't prefer it if I had the choice. But of course, I would love my child no matter what. Wouldn't that be amazing if they did what they did in China but to boys?

So like if you were having a baby. That's what I want. I want them to take a break on boy babies. That is what we should. What are you talking about? Like the one child rule, and if you were like having a female, they didn't want, they like didn't want you to have a girl. Yeah, you'd either have to, you know, have an abortion or. The child.

Okay. This is taking a turn. As a new mom, I can't. I know. It's a chill. It's a dark, dark. I can. You're a dirty little whore.

You know, we have one boy in the family now, my little nephew Oliver, and he's so freaking cute and I love him. But it is weird. I'm like, why are you here? Like, it is just kind of like odd. I'm like, you're kind of like one thing doesn't make sense. Yeah. I agree. It's like if you're not doing shit for the family, which babies aren't yet, you got to get out.

Yeah, you got to go to work, Bernie. You got to fucking go to work. But he's going to get to work soon. Because I'm telling you, my, my baby makes me laugh and everyone laugh all day. So that's his job right now. He does have a job. And he's still just silly. His choices are silly.

I love that. Esther and I've been talking. lot about like leaning into joy and laughter like those are things that we can control and that is huge because laughter is healthy is the best medicine and i realize if it's really is healthy then we got to really be appreciative of that yeah so that's why i dressed like a clown today so i could make everyone laugh you could make me angry um wait clyle what my head is spinning what do you have um firstly the realization last night that i've never been to the movies with my partner.

I thought you were going to say to the moon. I nod to do. You wanted to look at me like I was weird and then you realized you thought the same thing. Bobby was like, you have to watch Project Hill Mary. So I'm like, okay, everyone's saying to watch it. So him and I actually like, we're like, okay, after the baby naps, let's go see a movie together. We've been together for a couple of years now.

We have a baby. We've never seen a movie together. And I was like. You see it at home, just not out. Yeah, but I was like, oh, I started getting like the flutters and the butterflies. I was like, oh, but then we didn't end up going. It's the flutters and butterflies that count. I know.

But we didn't end up going because I ended up having to like work on something. But still I was like, it's so weird to have a baby before the movies. Yeah, that is pretty crazy. Yeah. Your baby's like kind of a bastard. We are doing everything backwards. Yeah. But that's kind of nice to do stuff backwards because now you can indulge in like the little things that bring happiness and joy in the beginning.

Yeah. But then with all, you know, the facade is gone. the rose colored glasses are off. So now we see each other as like parents, not as like lovers. That's okay, because that's real. I know. That's a grounded relationship.

That other shit is not real and it's fake. Can we do like a check-in? Like a good old fashion. It looks like you need one. Esther wants one because she's doing well finally. No, I'm, well, okay, I'll go first. So, Allie, you don't know this yet, but I've been peeing my pants for six weeks.

You're here. When she says peeing, she literally means. her entire life. No way. Yeah. Every time I stand up and walk. She wears a diaper. It's a little better in the first half of the day.

I don't really understand why. But I am exclusively in diapers. I haven't seen a pair of my panties in two months. Wow. That's so freeing. It's very. I'm kind of jealous. I would love to wear a diaper and just kind of let out a little peepy.

You should have. Remember when Chris Jenner was like a spokesperson for incontinence? No. You're just trying to copy her. Yeah. You want to be. The spokesperson so bad. Dude, that would be amazing if you could be a spokesperson for like dependables.

That would be. Dependables. Is it called? Yeah, it's called depend. Depends. I said it wrong. I would. Like, the incredible.

Like, I've definitely had some spiraling freakouts over it because it is very inconvenient. But I am keeping my spirits up because it's not going to kill me. It's not going to, you know, and it should get better. But that's kind of my headline right now. Are you supposed to be like doing key goals or like? Like what's the... It's complicated. Okay.

They said that I have to be fingering her. They said while we make out. That's what the doctor said. You made it nasty. I know. You made a nasty. But like basically there's something very... I feel like this podcast is exclusively like my pelvic floor, like central station.

It is. But I'll wrap my check in up with this. There's something going on in my pelvic floor like the bottom part is too constricted. So I'm constipated. And then the top part. Why do you say bottom part? Just say your asshole. The bottom part.

Everyone's confused. The bottom is too tight and the top is too loose. So it's like it's a little out of whack. But I've got the best team of care on it and we're going to, you'll see me next week. I'll be good. Yay. You're going to be good. Yeah, it's a little fronty loosey right now.

And it's getting better little by little though, right? It's like little by little. It was. And then like it got worse because I hadn't when I hadn't. like mastitis and like I was coughing and stuff but it's it's better okay I my check-in is over Allie no please go again I went to Coachella and just Saturday right just Saturday and I had so much fun and okay tell me what did you see well tell me if I have the most powerful brain in the universe and that maybe I'm God's favorite so I went Saturday I saw hold on let me pull up my schedule

Did you see Bebs? I didn't, I left, I left to go home. So who did you see? So I saw, she saw like an open mic poet. If you saw David Byrne, then you're a winner. I saw ceremony. Okay. Very cool band, ceremony.

Then I saw Eka Vandal, who I'd never heard of, and she was so cool. And then I saw geese and then I saw nine inch noise. Oh, that's the one. I hear that was a set of the weekend. It was incredible. Yeah, it was the one set that I would not want to see. Oh my God. It was so good.

That's too much. Oh, so good. Oh, yeah, but Trent Resner is like, amazing. He's incredible. And Boy's Noise is incredible. And the two of them together. Movie scores.

Yeah. Wait, who else? And then I saw the strokes and then I went home. Okay. Tell me how crazy bananas this is. So I see the strokes. And obviously, I've always liked the strokes. And I love the voids and whatever.

So after I see the strokes, now I'm in this, like, Julian Casablancus, like, K-hole. My whole algorithm is the strokes and Julian Casablancus. And like the other night, I stay up to like three in the morning. I can't sleep. And so I'm just like watching all of these like live performances on late night from the strokes. And I'm reading all of these articles. And I'm just like, I'm in it, you know.

I'm deep in my obsession right now after seeing them live. So then the next day after my strokes night, the next day, there was some stroking going on. And the next day, I'm with a friend. we're editing and he's like oh we should go get food now and I'm like okay great why don't we go to this spot that's by my house we can walk and also it's kind of like a cool

spot and because we're like in between Coachella weekends like I feel like we'll just see someone cool like what day is this now this is yesterday day after Coachella no two days a couple days couple days okay this is Tuesday so it's been four days three days since I've been to

God, our matches all the strokes. And why is this relevant? Just time and space. And I was like, Jenna, God damn it. I know. Focusing on the wrong thing. Yeah. And what were you wearing?

So I'm like, let's go to this place by my house. We can walk there. And it's like a cool spot. And I feel like we'll see someone cool because it's the weekend between Coachella and musicians are all in town. That's a really good thought. Yeah. So we go, it's dead. It's dead at this place.

No one's there. I'm like, how strange. And I tell him, I'm like, oh, man. I thought it would be like more exciting, but it's not whatever. We're sitting, we're eating. Truly no one's there. All of a sudden, guess who walks in? Who?

Julian Casablancus. Julian Casablancus. I was just telling her how obsessed I am with him and she he did music for drugstore June. Yeah, he did. Yeah, the voids did. Oh, the voids. I love the voids. I love the voids.

I should know. I love the void. You made that happen. I'm powerful. Manifestation. Okay, Trisha Petus. Yes. I'm in my Trisha Peda, Sarah.

I'm asking for what I want. I'm getting it. Instead, I'm like, I have to say hi to him because this is a gift from the universe, and I need to thank the universe for this gift. And so I go up to him, I said, hey, I saw you on Saturday. The show was so good. Here's what he says. Aren't you a comedian?

No. He vaguely knows what I look like. He vaguely recognizes me. No. Could not give you my name whatsoever. It doesn't matter It doesn't matter It doesn't matter

He had a sneaking suspicion He knew of He's seen some clips for sure Oh yeah Sure He saw a trash Tuesday clip I've never felt cooler In my whole fucking

What did you do Can you reenact how you acted? I'm gonna be him I kind of blacked out But I think I was like So chill in a crazy way Do you want to reenact it? Yeah yeah

So Hold on let me put the app He's probably cool Shades He wasn't wearing glasses But Hey, I saw you Saturday and it was such a good show. Oh, thank you.

Thank you. Wait. Ew, did he, he did not act like, please don't do this, Jenna, because you're going to send me into a spiral. If you'd watch any interviews of him the way that I have. This is so bad. I did you for ever. If he did that, I would have walked away.

I almost like, I almost slapped you. I was making fun of it. You as a man is so scary. I think actually all of us Anyone who does this as a thank you. You definitely would have a man, you'd be rocking a bun, for sure. Jenna, I've never been so close to

assaulting you ever in my life. You know, he would. Remember that? Remember? We? Please carry on, Allie. I don't like when they have their love. No, but not.

And by the way, that we have to make our own moments. To a time when I had so much energy. Do you remember how much energy I had? Honestly, I don't really go back to that. It was endless. Anyhow, all right. Go ahead.

Carry on. And then. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go back. Okay. Maybe you guys should be opposite parts. Oh, yeah.

You're, oh, but then you won't see how chill I am. Okay. Okay. I'm going to. I'll act how chill you were, okay. Okay. You don't know what happened. But you don't even know.

But we're just going to see what I thought it was like. Okay. Hey, I just want to say I was at Coachella this weekend and I saw your set and it was amazing. I'm such a fan. Oh, cool. aren't you a comedian? Yeah. Is that accurate?

More so than the whatever we did early. Yeah. Rock stars know kind of who I am. That's the best. And that's the coolest place to be. So now I wear glasses on podcast.

Yeah. I wear big shorts. I wear big old shorts. I knew you seemed different when you walked in. Yeah. You sure did. And I'm on board. And dare I say tan.

Coachella. But then also, are you going like darker? Because I love this hair color. Just my natural hairs growing in. No, I love it. That color is so sexy and good. Guys, I have the same hair color. Nobody's making any comments.

No, correct. No? Nothing? Okay. Crickets? Got it. Let's move on. You're not changing your hair, though,

where we can say like, oh, this is way better. This is sexier. And by the way, I compliment you all the time. And this is what you do. You should do a little, you should do a little. you should do a little highlight little balliage that would be fun at the end just at the end do you see it's like it's pointless to give you a compliment her personality to get a baliage she's not an outdoor girl the baliage would the message the baliage is sending is I see the sun sometimes I go to the beach

sometimes I'm in nature and that's not her okay and you and you have gorgeous hair yeah she has incredible hair thank you so much I really she really does that from you yeah yeah because I tell her all the time and she goes well Well, if I can be honest with you. Yeah. Was that a lie then? I kind of have been trying to copy your hair. How so?

I remember about maybe a year or two ago, your hair was so long and down to your ass. And I go, I want that. And I started growing my hair out. Mermaid hair inspired me. But is it too long? No, I love it. Really? You're talking to this bitch.

Her hair goes down to the back of her knees. Yeah. But I feel like I look like I've been like kidnapped into a religious call. Not at all. all. Okay, let's have long dark hair together forever. Okay, I have the darkest hair here. I don't hear anyone saying anything about my hair. And you won't. No. What's your check in, bitch? I'm here. What's going on with your health? Last time I was here, there was something crazy going on with your eyes. Oh, there's still bad stuff. Yeah, it's all bad. I went to Stanford, got a second

opinion. They said same thing. I'm supposed to get the surgery, but I didn't because I'm scared. did the other heart monitor came back SVT again what's that it's an arrhythmia it's basically your heart is supposed to have its own rhythm yeah a healthy rhythm and some with janus and me and you the rhythm goes off on its own meaning mine happens in my sleep so yours too right yeah it like it's fast yeah so it'll go from like 43 to like 150 in one beat and then i'm just like that's kind of fun when that happens though you're like what's happening shimmy shimmy But that's kind of what I've had to change my mind to when it happens like, okay, we're not going to die, we're just here. Haven't bled in two and a half years.

Things are horrible. I cried in the air one parking lot two nights ago, so that was great, Silver Lake. Oh, that's a good place to cry. I was like, thought I was totally fine. And then this Brandy Carlyle song came on and I was like, that'll get you. That'll get anyone, even on the best day. I think it was just your proximity to my two. crying children that made you cry and then I had to put my sunglasses on to order which I hate

doing because that's like seems rude and everyone's the perfect place to be like kind of a douche yeah me right now and then I was like um if I could just uh have the salmon and the guy was like sorry I couldn't hear you I was like just the roasted salmon thank you so that was cool um other than that I'm having a fun time in other life Like days like today where it's like I had an audition, now I have this, then I have another audition. Makes me think that I'm going places, but I'm not. You are. Wait, I didn't know that you were supposed to have a surgery and then didn't get it.

You kind of slid that one under the rug in front of me. Yeah, because they were like, you shouldn't have this longer than six to eight months, the fluid build up in your eye because it could result in permanent damage. You should get the surgery. Surgery is so much fun. But on my eye, the surgery is also so risky. Is that what they say? Yeah, they said it's risky and that most people with CSR never get it because your body

takes care of it on its own, which is what we thought it was going to do a year ago. However, it hasn't. So they're recommending surgery. So it might still go away on its own? No, they said at this point, your body's obviously not getting rid of it. It's been one year, May 17th. However, when I went to Stanford and they did a bunch of imaging, it resulted in some lasting bars across my eye that look like a TV screen.

And that has not gone away and it's been over a month and a half. So, yeah, I'm supposed to get the surgery. However, at UCLA, they've only done 40 a year. And at Stanford, 10 a year. That's how few people do it. Yeah, that makes sense why you would be nervous about it. But what's the success rate of the people that they have done it on? It's pretty successful.

I don't know the number. However, they said it's not forever. you have to do it again in like three to five years. The reason I find this interesting is because we had Tom Segura on a couple of weeks ago in Tiger Belly and you know he had that crazy accident where he tried to like dunk a basketball and then he fell and like. His knee or his arm. And basically what he told us is he lost all mobility in his hands and fingers, but there

was this one doctor who basically who said, I've only done the surgery once. So I'm one for one. But it's going to give you back movement because he had been, he had months of just. such long fingers. I know. I know. We talked about the last episode. Oh my God.

Yeah. Those are scary. Thank you. And they're thin. Because your palm is quite small. Yeah. Like your palm is normal, but then the fingers. Wow.

I think my fingers are just long. I love them. Sinuey. But this doctor was like one for one. And he took a chance and he got full mobility back. Apparently it was just some like hot shots. surgeon who was like, I got you. I know what I'm doing and he did it. I love a hot shot surgeon. I mean a hot shot surgeon for my eye. And also there's some sort of correlation that I've

researched between PCOS and like high androgens and CSR. So what I'm trying to do first is find a plan to balance my hormones first. Yeah. Can I call you out on something? Oh, please. I want Collila's support if she's willing to give it. support you. I just feel like are we at a point where enough with like the trying the supplement routes? I haven't really tried a supplement. How is that possible? I haven't. Okay. In the last like two years. And I'm like projected too because I feel like I lean towards this for years. I'll tell you what you should call me out on. Okay. That I get supplements, have a plan and then don't ever take them because I don't know what the plan should be. I feel like you get in a of paralysis where you're like scared to take anything. Yeah for sure. And then you do nothing. Yeah.

How do we fix that? I think if I could have someone like Alyssa Vidi, she did like, I've tried to see her. I've called their New York office. I'm like, is there anyone who you would recommend? Because what I believe I need is a one to one coach who's looking at my blood work, who's specifically saying this is what you should take. It's shitty part about. our healthcare system is that it's so fragmented and they're all not speaking to each other I mean they all have their notes visible there but it's not a holistic approach right that there's just so much going on with my body at once that I'm like I am in paralysis you need I think the question is someone else if someone was like hey here is a western medic this is a western medicine

approach this will help with your PCOS will you take it today because I know you to be very Yes, but I wouldn't believe it because I tried the Western medicine approach first with the Spiro and birth control and it in fact didn't work and made it worse. And so I would go. Not Spiro. More like, okay, these are the tests that we see. And this is what works for 90% of people. It may not work for 10%. But are you willing to give it a go?

Yes, I just don't believe it anymore because I don't think that Western meds can help with PCOS. I think they help bandage it. Gosh, girly matters are so complicated because it's never just a one size fits all for like any treatment. And it's like you take five girls with PCOS. They could all look so different and all their symptoms could be so vastly different. So that's where it gets like very frustrating because it has to really curtail to your specific type of PCOS and how it presents.

Like are you insulin resistant? It's weird. It's so complicated. Are you ovulating? Are you not? I did progesterone twice. I didn't know that. Yeah, once with a holistic doctor, she was like, you got to get off it because every time I would get on it, I would bleed when I would take it, which the way you're supposed to bleed is when you stop taking it, when you have a drop in progester.

Tricky. I see, that's very frustrating. That is like, but I do feel like what you said, you need one person, they need to take over so that it's not, you're not playing guess and check every day. Yeah. And like, they're in charge. I don't want to be researching it. I want them to be like, yo, I have worked with many a PCOSers with all different types of PCOS. This is what I know the plan for you.

Yes. Okay, you tell me what to take. That's a work goal is to find you that doctor. So if you're out there. Also, I've been seeing a lot of hot girls randomly talking about this on TikTok and I think it's affecting Jenna's like histamine response. MCAS. What do you know about that? Oh, I have it.

My sister does too. What is it? Everyone thinks I have it. I've been telling you you have MCAS. All it takes is to go to one good immunologist or one allergens. Tell us what it is. So it's mass cell activation syndrome. And basically you have overload of histamines.

And what histamines does is it causes inflammation in your body. Now histamines are necessary in your body. It alerts you to things, right? But it shouldn't be an overload all the time. And what happens with Jenna, myself, my sister is that we eat certain foods and it just causes us to flare up. And a lot of people think, oh, it's, you know, I'm just allergic to the food. You're not, it's not a true allergy. You just have MCAS.

Like, I'm not allergic to Apple. You should see my sister's immunologist and her allergist. She is incredible. And she's like, I don't need to test you for shit. You for sure have MCAS. And now my sister is on biologics. Biologics. But she's certain, uncertain medications that she takes every morning.

so she can eat what she wants. Do you do that? I don't. Mine is not as extreme as hers. Okay. I'm going to talk directly to the camera. There are a lot of people that feel the way I feel, which is when you eat a big meal,

like when you eat a meal, like any restaurant, whatever, do you start to feel like a panicky, disoriented, like unreality feeling after you eat? Like you're high. No. Yeah. You've never? And you start to feel like it's a panic attack?

Yeah. I try and move my legs. I told my, my, what? Electrophysiologists about this. I was like, I feel like I'm going to pass out or something. Heart starts beating. And usually after that, it's extreme diarrhea. TMI.

Lucky. I don't get the diarrhea. I used to think I was like fucking panicking. And it's right after you eat. Yeah, it's right after a big meal. Like 10, 15 minutes, 20. You start to feel like, where am I in the room? And the worst is that when you're at dinner and you feel like you have to stay seated and you're like, oh my God.

I feel like I'm like tunnel vision. I'll point you in the right direction because my sister loves hers. That would be great. You know what some of that is, too, that my electrophysiologist said? Funnyest sentence. But he's a heart doctor. He's not going to give you answers. She.

Oh, she's a heart doctor. She? I love a female cardiologist. Mine was female. Electrophysiologist. Yes, a cardiologist. You know what my EP female Latina? EP said.

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Kyla. Oh, yeah. What's my check in? Yeah. I'm going on another family vacation this weekend to Coachella. We're calling it a family vacation. This is crazy. Can you just tell me who you're going to see?

What's going on? Are you staying near? Who's coming? Who's going? Everyone. My entire family, Bobby, his girlfriend. that I was coming. Do you want to go? No, absolutely not. Please don't invite me. I'm going to Alaska this weekend. Oh, better. That's so much better. For stand-up? For stand-up. That is so wow. Fucking cool. And you know, here's how I know that I'm God's favorite right now. I ordered all new things on newly. Because I was like, I want some like cool Alaska outfits. So I got all these like big coat stuff. People are going to recognize you. Like you're so living the life. Yeah.

Well, here's the thing. I check the weather. It's going to be gorgeous out. Like no need for any coats. Like maybe one kind of light jacket. But even at night? But here's the thing. I just checked this morning.

It's going to be snowing. Whoa. That was a big change. Wow. I get to look really freaking cool. And you get to have like cute Instagram pictures in different environments. Have you ever been to Alaska before? No.

Are you going to Anchorage? I have a friend as a fisher woman there. That's a interesting. Yeah, my partner, my baby daddy goes to Alaska every year to go salmon fishing and bear hunting. I hate saying this. Is he eating the bears? Yeah, they eat the, they do. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Is it gay me? Give me a paw. I don't know. I tried not, I try to forget that part of who he is because, like, it hurts my feelings. But like, you know, he's a hunter. He's a hunter. You come from a hunter family.

I hate it. I know. You're, you're. I'm sensitive. Partner is a bear. He's a bear. He's another bear. So he's allowed to bear aside.

Okay, so you guys are going to Hotella. Yeah, going to Hotchalla. Second weekend because we're there for the music. Second weekend's the best weekend. It is the best weekend. Really? I never go weekend one. It's all influencers.

Yeah, weekend one is very like, you just want to like be there to be there. But weekend two, it's like you don't care about any surprises or being the first to see it. It's like less stressful. Is Jules going to Coachella? She is. Everyone's going. I'm sorry, Jenna. I keep saying everyone.

Stop saying everyone and not me. Don't worry, I'll be here. Well, you can go. Do you want to invite me to Alaska? Yeah, you can come. She'd rather go to Alaska than Coachella. Except this Coachella sounds nice because your child is there. And so I know that it's not going to be like a 16-hour day.

I'm back home no later than 7 p.m. because I have to do bath time, bedtime. See, this is the type of Coachella that I wish you would have invited me to six years ago. You guys, I have a sports corner. Oh, yes. I love an Esther's sports corner. So there is a crazy controversy going around right now with a WNBA draft. Do you know about it?

No, I don't. Guy, do you? I thought you were going to talk about the reporter. Wait, I care about this. Paige drafting her girlfriend? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so the number one draft pick for the W of NBA this year was this woman Azzie Fudd. Sorry, when Esther says draft pick.

It's like this. The number one draft pick is... I know. This is really out of body for everyone here. She was the number one draft, and she was drafted to the Dallas... What are they, like, the string beans or something? What are they? I don't know.

The Dallas Cowgirls. The wings. The Dallas wings. It just so happens, though, that last year, they had drafted this woman, Paige Bucker, and they're actually a couple. And this is like the first... Page and Fuzzy? An Azi Asi. Asi Pud? Yeah, these names are

like interesting and as an Esther Povitsky I know I don't have a lot of room but to say that but basically they're you know in a relationship yeah and the way that like ESPN is reporting on it yeah it's like they'll be reunited like as teammates because they used to play together at Yukon. They don't want to say they're not saying they don't want to acknowledge they're not saying that these are gay ladies like he did rivalry season well okay I have two thoughts

about this. We they get to beat together. So this is like a, it's like the first time like a romantic partnership that we know of is like playing on a team together. I like that they're not calling it out and being like, they're gay. They're going to be fucking together. I think also the other side of the drama is like, did she have influence on the team picking that girl first overall?

So she came to the same team as the other one. Because it happens in male sports all the time. It does. Oh my God. Yeah. Male sports in soccer anywhere is so political. Remember when the whole manning. Manning brother situation when he first, he was a first draft pick.

It was a charger. He was going to go to San Diego. And then he cried and cried and cried because he wanted to go to his brother. Yep. And then he got switched, right? It happens so often for men. Sports food. I'm not.

We're not. We're not. But we could be if we needed to be. Mad respect for that. But like it's, it happens so much in sports. And this is another thing that happens in sport. Why wouldn't their relationship be a true consideration? Because when like football players in Europe.

They're like, my school, my kids go to school in England. I want to stay in England. Yeah. Like, family matters. They are a couple. That's her family. It shouldn't be a big deal because men do it all fucking day long. And it's not like she wasn't up for it.

And they were just like, oh, let's pick this random person because we're dating. It's like, I wish they were on opposite team. So it could be like he did rivalry and they'd have to play against each other and then have sex after. And honestly, that would not be in their interest. Yeah. That would not be in their interest because then they would have to worry about like, are they, are they not going to want to be

going against each other going against each other well it could be you score you score the thing is though that also there could be like drama of like if you're in a relationship at work like what if they break up you know there's but you know what they're athletes and I think that when you're on the court or if you're on whatever it is

like you're that athlete hat comes on and the upside is if I was the owner of the wings I'd be like yes bring her in they know how to play together, like, more than just the average, like, teammates already. Like, they could probably read each other's, you know, I would be all about it. I hate that the team is called the wings. Feels like a pad. I know.

It should be the stringings. Triumphians was really like a, I was on to something with that. Wasn't you of I like the corn stalks after they had to change their mascot? I don't know. Yeah. I like UC Santa Cruz, the banana slugs. They're our sister team. In Irvine is the ant eaters, right?

Ant eater, yeah. Wait, also, okay, I saw this TikTok. This is so crazy. Like, it's actually so disgusting, but I want to, I'm sure Jenna's going to be into it and I'm going to be angry. There's this couple. The woman is a breastfeeding mom and they were on a cruise ship and her pump wasn't working. So she had her husband, like, relieve her milkies and he sucked milk out. Why are you being weird?

And then they realized. Sounds very normal. I hate you. They realized that they both enjoyed that. Oh. And that now that's like they permanently are. She breastfeeds him. And it's like a source of intimacy for them as a couple.

As a breastfeeding mom, I do not like this. I do not like this because I tell Aloha all the time. My tits are pure function. Zero sexual. If you even look at them in a sexual way, like I will punch you in the dick. Can you give Dave this lecture for me? These are long. gone, baby. Like, don't even think about them. Don't imagine them. If you have to jerk off to

something, bottom half only. Like, my tits are for feeding. You're jerking off to your elbows. Because, like, once you start, like, breastfeeding, you're like, these are so functional. It's for function. They're like sacred in a functional way. Yeah, it's like, my child needs this. It's the food. Food. And the nutrients. I mean, I see that. And I also can't speak on breastfeeding because I've never done it. However, I don't see a problem with it. If that's what they like and she's the breastfeeding mother and that's what she is saying is okay with her body like I don't give me fuck I don't like that I know about it I you know if that should brings them joy and happiness and intimacy then great but the fact that I now know this is deeply upsetting

is she's still breastfeeding her children or she's like you guys are out husband is in I think that in the time of the interview she was the love just the luxury it's actually necessity. My wife's breast milk every day, all day, straight from the source. Breastfeeding my husband isn't just a luxury or some bizarre fetish. It's actually a desperate medical necessity. Every single day, Rachel breastfeeds her husband, Alexander. She suffers from severe milk overproduction, meaning if she doesn't release it, she risks a dangerous, life-threatening infection. Mechanical pumps cause... This is AI, Esther. No, I feel like the VO is. This is fake. This footage is not fake. This is like one of those shows. This is like one of those shows.

were yeah yeah I eat bricks yeah I'm addicted to fucking cars yeah like I love bath salts oh my god I'm I'm upset for a couple of reasons as the point of this show as I'm breastfeeding mom like like like stay the fuck away from my tits if you're my partner if anybody else outside my baby like oh fucking come close to me but you're saying that almost like as though oh what if my partner was coming to my tities like sexually this doesn't this is not sexual but the other thing that's kissing me off is they don't understand the science of breastfeeding because guess what? It's all about supply and demand.

If he continues to nurse, her body is telling her to make more milk than the baby actually needs. So what this is telling me is that she was nursing him already and that's why she's overproducing milk. I think that this kink happened before the milk came in and they were just a cosplay breastfeeding couple before. I was trembling.

I'm trembling. It's just because I can't even like the thought of like the thought of a grown man on the titty. for sustenance. No, but he's not on it for sustenance. He's on it because they think he's helping her relieve it and they like it. That is bullshit. So your whole video is fake.

No, that was the wrong link. Like the right one is them talking and they're like, we just enjoy this. It's for leisure. I don't enjoy you saying leisure. I love leisure. The other day, she was like, oh, what flavor is that? Herb. Herb is only a 90-year-old Jewish.

man. It's very British of you. But she's not British. She didn't say it like a British. She said it like an old Jewish man. Is that herb? Okay. Allie, what do you have to say about the breastfeeding husband? I was just going to say that I have had a sexual experience before where

a man did want to suckle my teat and the way in which he was doing it felt kind of like baby and mother and I really did not like it. So they're just kind of putting it out there that there's not going to be a world in which you see me being like,

and we love this. I do not love this. I mean, they're very different. When a guy sucks on your tits and he thinks that there's milk in there, it's a horrible feeling. Was he actually like sucking on it? That was kind of what was going on.

Yeah, he was going to mommy baby situation. It wasn't like a sexual like lick. Yeah, because it's very different. Part of other action. This was like focused on teat. It's horrible. Well, there are, I have at least three or four of my friends who are dads when their partners had clogs that they had to suck out the clog.

And they've done that and like, okay, no big deal. But yeah. That's not going to be me. Let's never talk about that again. I love that that got you. I feel the same way. Because my, I just, I'm sensitive about this. You know what else?

You know what I think makes it like kind of disturbing is that I feel like typically, not all men, hashtag, not all men. But I think typically, like, women are so involved in the child care, in the, you know, raising of the child. And sometimes men fall quite short of the expectations that the fact that, like, this is how the guy's helping. I'm like, oh, you're happy to help when it comes to suck in my teat. Yeah, your teeth. He's like, oh, all day, I just help her all day. I just suck on her tits all day.

I'm just so helpful because she needs it. I'm not into that. But I do feel like if it's a kink, I don't care what you do. I really don't care. And if she's consenting and not being forced into it. I think that's the key. Well, we didn't have to know about it if Esther didn't tell us about it. Hey, guys, my algorithm wanted us all to know today.

I don't know what to tell you. Talk to us about the talking fruits or something. Oh, yeah. Wait, so we have not recorded for about two months, right? Because we went on a big break. I had a baby. You were in Hawaii. You bitch.

I know. You know, I always invite you. But this was like a once in a 30-year storm. that happened there. Oh yeah, I forgot that you have got a whole new personality last time you went to Hawaii. I'm a new woman. Well, she loves the water and I always tell her like when I'm there. Next time you go, tell me.

Yes. What don't you do, Allie. You do it all. I like doing anything and everything. Do you sleep? Once. Yeah. Oh my God.

I sleep so much. I'm like the most boring. That's why you can do everything. I'm the most boring, adventurous person you'll ever mean. Like I like doing fun things, but I can't promise that all be fun while doing them. That's fine. Do you know what I mean? I relate to that.

It's like I want to be there. I want to experience it. I can't say, oh, violence. I'll tell you why it sounded like that. Because I learned that the real way you're supposed to sneeze is out of your nose because that expels all of the irritants and pollutants here. For example, when you cough, you cough to get up from here. When you sneeze, you're getting it out of your nasal cavity.

You're supposed to sneeze out of your nose. I didn't like the sound of that, though. It flew you across the room. Honestly, you sounded like you were like the exorcist. Your head spun around three. 60. You remember how I used to sneeze like, br-br-h? Well, you do have sneeze on your.

Oh, ew. I was like, wow, you're glowing. This has spit-up from your babies on it. Oh, cute. I love a good spit-up sweater. So we missed the whole cultural moment of JFK Jr. Oh, everyone was talking about it. Like, this, I needed, I have my fomo.

Like, can we talk about this at all? You guys watched the show? You've chosen the wrong guest for this particular topic. I've completely missed the JFK Carolyn Bassett. That might make you the right guess. I don't. Did you watch it? I didn't. But I heard, I mean, I watched everything about it. Just because, you know, I don't, I can't watch anything. But you guys, JFK Jr. What can we talk about? Sorry, next. Yeah, I feel like you're going to have to book some. Next next week. This is for Peter. Comment if you want this to be talking about more. Comment, like, and subscribe. I have stuff to say.

But I'm not going to waste it on these bitches. Thank you next. I also just have to say one thing that I'm a little confused about. How do people have under 400 windows open on their phones? Oh, yeah. I go through mine. Yeah, like, I have to close one. No, I like, this is what I'm wondering.

What are other people do? You guys know that it's processing, like, your computer's working extra hard the entire time. You have all those tabs open. Really? My computer has, like, 60 tabs in my phone. My phone has 400. Classic mail. How many do you have right now?

With the facts about it. I have a new phone so I only have 72. Oh my God. Oh my God. We usually have 400. Go through them. Clean them. I want to mention or call something out that's making me laugh right now on the list.

It says, I know why Theo Vaughn loves Latinos. And it's incorrect. It's supposed to say I know why Theo Vaughan loves Filipinos. Oh, same thing. Yeah. You know how he goes on like I love Filipino every podcast that he's on he talks about like loving Philippine well I didn't know that you no no he's like he loves Filipinos Filipino are the best though but then I'm like what why does he love Filipino so much and then I learned this thing recently

and it's a historical fact that mom is Filipino because the Spanish colonized the Philippines and they often took him in as slaves on their ships to Mexico and they were called Manila men from the Philippines these Manila men or these, you know, colonized Filipinos in Mexico escaped. They deserted their Spanish colonizers. And then they established their own community in Louisiana as early as 1700s. And so there used to be a whole area in Louisiana before, I think in like the 30s, it got destroyed by like the storms. But this whole area that was Filipino town, basically. So I think it's in his blood as a Louisiana.

Louisiana boy. But I'm now starting to think that if he did a DNA, you know, he's part Nicaraguan, right? But I think that, yeah. So you think maybe he's Filipino? I think he's Filipino. My theory is Theo Vaughan is Filipino and I think he needs to do a DNA test for real. And I think he's a descendant of the original Manila man that were okay, we're from Louisiana. Answer me, yes or no. Is he the father of your baby? You look at one, look at my baby. We got to ask Mori. It's so funny, but I don't know That's just my theory on it I have a question

If you had to have a sperm donor And you could only pick out of the comedy scene This is a good question Which comedian would you let This is a sperm donor That is so stressful Esther would pick me

I already know it But you mean like the bro Yeah like a man You need sperm Who do you pick? I would pick Gilbert Oh just no relationship to them whatsoever No it could be

People you've never met Just out of the comedians. Well, I wouldn't want a big baby. So anyone tall? No. Okay. I'm trying to think whose jeans I would pick Mark Marin. Me too. That's my second. No, the mental illness on that child between me and Mark. Yeah, I have too much. Okay, I don't know him. I don't know him. But he is like everyone thinks he's the hottest. Oh, I would just feel like he seems like, hmm, cozy. I would pick someone Asian, I think, just because. Oh, I wonder who would you fit. Hmm. Someone Asian.

Now, I wouldn't pick Bobby because, again, between my mental illness and his mental illness is too risky. So who's an Asian man that you would let? Narrow it down to like what's saying? Peter Kim, the only gay Bobby look alike. Who's yours? Let's see. I'm trying to think.

And part of me is going like maybe, maybe like a Malaney because he's tall. I believe has like a wealthy family. And so I just want that kind of in my baby. his DNA to like have kind of wealth. That's a good pick because he's like sweet and smart. Yeah. And tall is important to me. He seems healthy.

Oh, but the addiction, huh? You know, okay, maybe I'll go back to the drawing board, but that's kind of what I would pick Robin Williams in the past. You can't pick him. Well, this is a hype of fucking thatical. Yeah, but currently. No, but you're going to have to exhume. Yeah.

No, you don't get to pick him. Yeah, you don't get to pick him. Next. You can't have done. Who's not tall? Obviously Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah, he's not tall and it's dark. No, no, no, no, no.

He's too beefy. And his, I feel like his daughters are beautiful. His baby would come out of you like, right? No, no. Yeah, might be too big. No, but I guess, have you seen the old videos of him from when he was like a new comic?

He's very, like, tall and lanky. Or not tall, I guess he didn't like lose height. But he's very, like, lanky. So I think the beefiness is more. Maybe Mateo Lane. Yeah. All good choice. Mateo Lane will be a good one for me.

And I'm also going to pick Mateo. Okay, so we can have like, our babies can be sisters. His grandfather was the judge that married my parents. So we're already cousins in my mind. So, yeah, we'll have a baby together. I know who I would choose to donate sperm. Who? Joel Kim Booster.

Oh, that's a good one. Done. That baby is snatched, smart, silly. This question makes me want to vom. Honestly, like, I think that male comics just, Fluffy. Scar the shit out of me. So I'm sorry, it's got to be Bobby.

He's the only like, just because I know his heart is good and like maybe the mental illness is from the physical trauma. Honestly, what about Marcelo? Now I want Bobby. Oh, Marcello. Oh my God, that's my choice. Boom! I win.

Marcelo come home to me. Yeah, you're right. Fuck Bobby, Marcelo. Great choice. The fact that I even knew, I don't know anyone's name. Like we're done. You know, we have similar tastes. Mark Marin, Marcello, Joe can booster.

Those are my three. Looks like I win. And on that, I'm out. Bye, Jenna. Bye, good luck. Have a good on day. You guys, thank you so much for listening. I'm so happy to be back.

We will talk about JFK Jr. Look at this smile. When's the last time the fans of the pod saw this joy? Joad de V. So happy to be pissing myself. Wait, can I just say something? thing. Shout out to you guys because when I've been doing shows lately, people have been coming up and being like, I love you on Trash Tuesday. And I'm like, what? Yes. We love you. We are so happy that

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