Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - STEFFIE BAIK abandoned ANDREA JIN in Korea

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:51 You know? That's a hot take So like you're choosing To line up for ice cream, that's silly You know what I mean? You're in the silly world now You're in the fucking captain You're giving up this time Like you're not lining up for bread or
Starting point is 00:02:08 It's not a basic need. Yeah Like where you need it so it's like Oh I'm starving like nobody's starving For ice cream You know, it's going to be a line. Hi, guys. Hi, Slugs. I am right now backstage at the comedy store, getting ready for my tour. And I just wanted to let you know that this Saturday night, October 4th, I will be in Portland, Portland, Oregon, heard of it.
Starting point is 00:02:35 One of my favorite cities, I can't wait to eat all your food. I will be at the Aladdin Theater, and you can get tickets at pretty little babytour.com or the link. Hello? Okay, I've got to get out of here. I love you guys. Hey, Sluggies. I don't know if you know, but we have a producer tier. Halloween is coming up.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're planning a bunch of themed episodes. And what's really cool is if you sign up for the producer tier, you get to dictate what we do, how we dress, what the theme is. You get to send in advice. You get to send in ideas for segments. And we are at the mercy of your suggestions. So go sign up for that. And also thank you, thank you to our golden slug, Brandon. I'll tell you a couple things about Brandon.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Extremely hot, extremely successful from Texas. Brendan. You don't know him, but he's the homie. Thank you, Brandon. Thank you from high mayor. See ya. What's going on with your feet, though? Oh, I forgot my socks and I don't want to show obviously the feet.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Go on, Mike. You want to show your dead feet and that's okay. I don't want to show my feet at all. But why? Are you like, it's really, why? It's more like, I think I never used to care until it was obviously sexualized. And then dudes were like, oh, I jerk off to your feet all day. And then I'm like, oh, I got to take it back.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Because I don't want you doing that. I'm just surprised that you're like, this is a, my feet are a situation that has to be dealt with. It is a situation that has to be dealt with. And you know what? Yours are too for different reasons. Have you seen her feet? No, can I? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 There's no blood flow. Break yourself. They just look dead. They're dead, right? They're gorgeous. No, they're not gorgeous. They're like Gothic. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:04:25 They just look unused. But that's like the dream. That's what people want to see. I don't know. I think they want like life and blood flow. But I think Bobby calls them Kate Blanchett's feet. Mine? Yeah, I mean anything that has no blood flow.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Like translucent. Yeah, translucent. He always calls me translucent. and that I have the energy of an 1800s ghost. Yeah. But that's because one day we're at the comedy store, and I walk in the green room, and he's sitting there with Russell Brand.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And mind you, this was like peak Russell Brand, like 2010, like, peak. No one bigger, yeah. Yeah, and like I was, I just got to the comedy store. Like, I don't want to, like, if I see a famous person, like, I go the other way. Like, they don't want anything to do with me. And so I walked in the room like this,
Starting point is 00:05:10 and then I just walked out like that. And then he's been calling me a ghost ever since then. I've been like, well, I think that's the right. I think you should be a ghost. Let's get more specific. I don't think it's just a ghost. It's like a 12-year-old boy ghost. It's like prepubescent 12-year-old boy.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Well, a little girl is usually scarier, traditionally. That's true. But there is nothing creepier than like a horned 12-year-old. Ew. Right? Ew. Now I'm really scared. Why do you even know about that?
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm sorry. Do you have a little brother or something? I don't, but that's why I'm even more fascinated by, not, not two-year boys, but just like boys. I'm, like, curious about them. We don't have a boy in the household. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I would learn everything off of, like, Cosmopolitan magazine. This is what boys do.
Starting point is 00:06:02 This is what they like, you know? So, yeah, that's all. But back to feet. No, thanks. I actually wore nice socks because I knew that was a thing. Those are great. Those are cute. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Those are really cute. I'm glad that you guys totally get it because I was trying to tell my friends about the whole sock thing and like or like podcasting and feet. Like it's it's really a thing. Like it's like one of the only things I think about before potting is like. Is hiding your feet? What is it up with you guys? I think what you're doing though is the correct route, which is like have at it and like it loses. it's luster.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Like if I give you all my dead feet, then you'll max out on dead feet and you'll never think about it again. I think now the hiding makes them want it more because people are disgusting. Now the allure is there because they're like, oh, she's not giving. She's teasing me. So maybe I should just go full blast feet. Well, I'm at an advantage here because I do, my feet are like a circus trick.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like they're really special and they should be studied and they should be seen. So I can't even really be in the same conversation as you guys because you guys probably have normal feet. So I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I think you just need like a little massage. Like anyone give you a football? No. Over the bones?
Starting point is 00:07:21 No. You get some flow in there? I know you think that. But you're wrong. Okay. The crazy thing is actually like that's what they want though. The dead? The internet, the feet people want like the feet like not a normal foot.
Starting point is 00:07:34 No, that's wrong. I swear. They pay big money. You could be like a millionaire That's not true Wait by the way I realized that some people have been commenting Like who's the male voice in the room
Starting point is 00:07:47 So we should formally introduce Guy Hello He is our resident guy And we don't just call him Guy Because we're you know A sexist and rude Even though that is something I would do Guy is such a slept on name
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's a nice name Wait is guy a nickname or guy is like your government name No it's my real name yeah That's incredible. Imagine having a baby and like, that's Guy. That was cute. Guy Ritchie. It's a really cool, like chic name, I think. Wait, your last name is bake or bike? You said it right the first time. Bake, right?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah. Pick. In Korean, pick. Beck. Yeah. Should I make everyone say it like that? Pick. We were just talking about her wholesome side gig as an apple sales lady. Oh my God, I didn't know this. No, the only other side gig I know you do is you sell apples. That's what I just said. Apple sales lady. Are you here? I thought you meant like Apple as in Mac store.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Oh my God. I did say sales lady. He said sales ladies. I was like, oh my God, computer. Apple and Apple. How cute. Wait, that's so hot. You thought I was a techie little girl selling apples. But there's no way I could have been sales. What do you say sales lady for? You trip me up, bitch. Honestly, I'm glad this is coming up. Because apples, apples. Yeah. Thank you for life. Yeah, you have to clarify with me. My brain works a little funky. They're so high tech to me that they should be called sales.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Like, it should evoke Apple technologies because they're so important to me in my life, as you may know, that that would make sense why I tripped you up. Gosh. The respect that I give Apple is. What is the bioengineering that actually goes into making a honey crisp for this daily breakfast? Damn, I wish I knew that. Like, I don't know. Rank the apples, Steffy.
Starting point is 00:09:40 The types of apples? Yeah. Oh, my God. Do you try them at work? Oh, my God. I'm eating them all day. Whatever you have ranked them. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Honey crisp is pretty high, but have you had an ever crisp? No. No. They're a honey crisp, but slightly sweeter with a slight tartness to it and even crunchier than a honey crisp. Crunchier? Crunchier. Can you imagine? What is it about the honey crisp that you like?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Is it the crunchiness or the taste? Okay, it's the firmness. It's the sweet mixed with the tart. So it's never going to be too tart, ideally. It's never going to be too sweet. It's like right in that perfect what you dream of an apple tasting like. And again, it's not mushy. It's not mealy.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's just a perfect. And if you are in the heart of Honeycrisp apple season, I'm telling you, that texture, when you bite into it, should be almost like a perfect watermelon. It should be so tight. and wet and sorry and watermelon
Starting point is 00:10:38 you do need tight butt holes it's just unlike anything else because an apple the range is so depressing I mean I please let me
Starting point is 00:10:48 let you have I love how excited you are about the apples this is like you probably shouldn't talk to me because I'm like too weird I didn't know I know you were there
Starting point is 00:10:57 and you're always excited about the apples but never to this extent it's quite like you're quite nerding out on the apple I have to play it cool at the apple stand Because if you guys knew, you'd be charging me double and you'd be, you'd have a sign with my picture on it.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Do not sell this woman apples. Like, so we have, oh, look who it is. Hi. Hi. Oh, that's okay. You look so cute. Oh, my God, sexy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We said comfy fall outfit and look at this one. This is too sexy for us. Is it not fall? No, it's beautiful. It's a sweater. Did you think about your feet at all? for the pod. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You did, right? No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Why would I think about my feet? Thank you, Queen. Yeah. I don't know. It's like the thing I'm really self-conscious about is that people are going to stare at my feet.
Starting point is 00:11:46 So I just thought, and there are some other people on the pod who agree with it. So I just thought maybe you too. Not everyone. Not everyone. Esther's okay with showing all ten toes. Collella, we introduced our guests. Sure. You guys, today is a very special episode.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Welcome to Fall. It's fall. It is fall. It's still balls hot outside. Today we have two very special girls and friends of ours. Hottie model, Apple sales lady, apparently, funny girl, podcaster, Steffie Bick. Oh, thank you. Of course.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And over here, over here to my right, you've seen her on tour with Bill Burr. She headlines all over with Bobby, with John Malaney. John Malaney, all the big ones. Ronnie Chang. Thank you. Funny girl Andrea Jin Thank you
Starting point is 00:12:37 hilarious stand-up Thank you Before you got here I was like I have a bone to pick with Andrea Oh my god I have a bone to pick with
Starting point is 00:12:46 Steffy Oh do you have a bone to pick with her? No I love us to her Maybe I'll find something today Oh you will You'll all will
Starting point is 00:12:54 You're gonna leave here Being like That girl is Wait tell me Watching people's dogs Is like really like a He already knows He asked, continue, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Steffie will be like, hey, can you watch Pingu? I'm not Stephanie. Andrea will be like, hey, can you watch Pingu her dog, her cute little dog? Who I'm capable of stealing. I just want you to know, like, if your dog is missing, it's me. I would kidnap your dog is so cute. Okay, sorry, keep going. And she's like, can you want Pingu from this date to this date?
Starting point is 00:13:24 So I was like, oh, like, that's a two-week commitment. Like, I take really seriously. Yeah. Right? And so I was like, yeah, and I was like really getting excited. I was like, oh, hey, we're going to set up for Pingo here's Pingu's water bowl. Oh my god, that's so nice. And then come the day of when I'm supposed to receive Pingu, like, just crickets.
Starting point is 00:13:40 No. Crickets. I'm like, where's Pingu? Oh my god, wait. Can I tell you what happened? Yeah. I had visa issues. That's what it was. Yeah, because I was supposed to go to Canada. Yeah. And then the days leading up, everyone in the world was mad at me. Like all of the, like, my reps, the festival people, everybody was like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:14:00 And then my visa had issues. And so I should have messaged you sooner. I was sad about Pingu. I'm sorry. Oh, we have company. You know, I take, when I watch Donut. I know you integrate her into your family. I integrate her into the PEP talk to my dogs.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I was like, hey, Pingu's going to be here for two weeks. You guys have to behave. I know. It was such a long. And I was so thankful that you said yes. And then, yeah, my visa. That's not your fault. So you didn't get to go?
Starting point is 00:14:28 I didn't get to go. I didn't get to go. It was JFL. I didn't get to go. That is a really good excuse. What was the issue? He says, like, you can't even, yeah. And then the second time, I did it again. I did it again.
Starting point is 00:14:39 But I was supposed to go to Hawaii, but I was like, ill. I was sick. Oh, that's right. You were done. Yeah. Also, great excuse. Yeah. Can I watch Pingu?
Starting point is 00:14:49 I would love. If you watched Pingu before I watched Pingu, I'm going to be really mad. I want to. Don't you fucking dare. I never like, I never go at it with you. Her dog is not friendly. Don't like other dog I'm like
Starting point is 00:15:03 I don't think it's not I like it there Donut is not friendly No Be real is donut friendly with other dogs Donut I wouldn't call her
Starting point is 00:15:14 unfriendly I would just say She's not that interested Okay You are nasty Like a cat Kind of uninterested Donut is like
Starting point is 00:15:24 More like I'm a human But with dogs Her size It could be different I've tried it It's not different. Donut has stayed at my place and Donuts like,
Starting point is 00:15:34 stay the fuck away from me all of you other dogs. She does. Yeah, she's a little princess. Yeah. She's so cute. She's very cute. Wait, oh, do you have your bone to pick with her?
Starting point is 00:15:43 So things are fine over here. We're fine now. About the visa. Thank you. Sorry. Talk to your excuse. I can't use it. No, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:50 I should have said something, but I was like, it was just too many things were happening. But I should have said something regardless. That was my bad. It's okay. All, All is forgiven.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, thank you for agreeing for such a long commitment, too. Oh, my God. I'm grateful. Pick the bone. Okay. I'm scared. We went to Korea for, like, a week or so. And we stayed together, and we were together for, like, every day.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Just you two? And others, but we stayed together the whole time. The two of us stayed together. Yeah. And then we come back here. I haven't seen her since now. That's your bone? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Why have not? I have things to do. When was the Korea trip? Like a week ago? Oh my God, it's only been a week. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, but we saw each other for every day.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Oh, so you had separation anxiety. I have abandonment. She left before me. She abandoned me in Korea. We both have abandonment issues. And you know when the person who leaves is like better off? I think I was felt better off leaving me, unfortunately. She was going back to her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Roo. And then I was abandoned for a week. It was my birthday. Is that an excuse? Oh, my God. It is an excuse. Okay, so the whole week. For one day.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It was your birthday for. I wanted to celebrate the whole week. Without me, I guess. Anyway, that's my bone. How was Korea together? That was fun. It was really fun. But it was all fake, I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I want to relate to you because I'm that girl. We're like, I feel like I'm out with friends and we're like really having this deep, deep connection. I can't believe it. And then the next day, like, no one remembers because they were drunk. And I was sober, and I'm like, and then it's just there's nothing there. I know. Yeah. I was sober the whole time, too.
Starting point is 00:17:36 We were both sober. Yeah. I felt like I learned so much about you in a way that made me care for you. Like, I felt like I did think about you a lot. We texted each other a lot. That's fine. That's true. And then you left.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And then you had my body. You couldn't have my body. And just nothing ghost for a week. And then I see you now. If it makes you feel any better, Esther and I, we fought on the, while traveling together. What did you guys fight about? Was it like little things? Where'd you go?
Starting point is 00:18:08 It was oat milk. It was little things. It was little things. Yeah. But we made up before we got on the next plane. Where'd you guys go? We were in Hawaii. Well, how do you fight in Hawaii?
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. Hawaii is not the beautiful dreamland for everyone. It is. It is. Not for me and my allergies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:32 She had allergies in Hawaii and everything spiraled from there. I blame the allergies. I do too. I've never to this day and since like ever had anything like that. That's so interesting to me because I've never, of all the places I've had allergies and I'm an allergic girl. Like right, I'm a Flonase every day, Allegro, everyday kind of girl. It's the only place I don't have to take that. I know when I remember you were like, I don't understand how she doesn't have her allergy meds.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And I'm like, because I literally was like, the only time I've ever had that and I still I'm like scared to go back now were you sick maybe no because I could tell like I could tell when I was outside and like the sneezing it I would when I'm sick like my throat hurts like I'm really tired like it was very much allergies I mean they have a lot of special fauna and whatever yeah and you guys all have like some kind of Asian in you and I don't have that And maybe that's why. But Asians are actually more allergic. What?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah. There's like higher cases for just general allergies and eczema in the Asian community. It's like Vietnamese, Filipino. Really? Yeah. Maybe you have hidden Asian in you. No, I think Jews beat Asians for weakness. We're not weak, though.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Well, allergy is a weakness. Yeah. No, no, no, no, it's not. It's a strength. Actually, it means your immune system is too powerful. Oh, true. Yeah. True.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Okay, I have a question for you guys. This is going to be a really weird way to start with your relationship with me. One thing about me is I grew up in the same house that my dad grew up in. So he grew up there and then his parents both died and he was an only child. So then he moved in to the house. Then he met my mom. My mom moved in and then I was born and I was raised there. I have this weird theory that feels so real to me,
Starting point is 00:20:28 but I feel like every time I bring it up, people don't understand it at all. But I'm like, I was raised in my grandparents' house, right? My dad, like, he was raised in that house. I was raised in that house. He didn't buy that house. Like, that's his parents' house. And so in my mind, even though I never met my grandparents,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm like, they're almost like my real parents. And my dad and I are siblings. because we're raised in the same house. Does that seem really outrageous? No. I don't get it. Making her feel good. Yeah, because, yeah, wait.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You're saying that your grandparents are your parents because they put the cash down? Yeah, it's their home. Yeah, it's their roof. Yes. So your 80-year-old dad is, in fact, your sibling. We were raised in the same house on the same street. We had the same neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You know that saying, this is my roof? You follow the rules or whatever. Yeah. It's that. I agree with you. I can see it only because I've seen you with your dad and you guys do have sibling vibes. That's what I'm saying. And I think that's like in the, the house has infected us to be siblings.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So does that mean your child will also be your? I don't want to go wherever you're going. I mean, that's where you're essentially saying. No. No, we live somewhere else. We live somewhere else now. Oh, okay. You live out of here.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Who owns the house? Me and my husband. Okay, so now we've broken the cycle and now we're a new family. Okay. I don't know where this puts my mom, but I think she's like our caregiver. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Me and my dad's caregiver. Yeah, I think so. I feel like she would agree with that. Yeah. Actually, I have a bone with you too. What? Finally. I just realized.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I love that clip of you talking about your dad, the stand-up clip. Oh, thank you. Where your dad doesn't know you. Thank you so much. That's so my family as well. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I guess it's not a bone. It's just like, that's cool. That's a positive bone. We can have good bones. Yeah, that's my bone. Because I was like, no, I wish I had that joke. That's so funny. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I feel like that about your material too. I feel like it's so funny and strong, especially because you, you, similarly to me, like, abandonment issues and, like, anxious attachment. Like, I love when you talk about that. I wonder why we've calibrated similarly. Like, what do you think? I think it's because I see my mom as my sibling also. What? Yeah, because my grandparents raised me.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And then, but we lived in my mom's house. But my grandparents were kind of like our parents. I do think that is a more valid reason than mine. You don't have to follow my rules of the roof, but I appreciate you trying to play along. Are your, all of your parents still alive? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:23:22 No, my dad passed when I was like six and a half. Oh, six and a half. So I was my own parent, I feel. Was there a father figure in your home? Me? I was a father figure, yeah. My family would concur. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, so that's why I feel the abandonment and attachment thing. I noticed like I quickly attached to you during my trip. I attached immediate. with everyone always. I'm attached right now to everyone. Be careful around me. I'm very attached. We'll have a sleepover tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So there's no father figure. You felt like you had to like parentify, like you were the parent in the household. I have a younger sister. Yeah. So I took care of... What's the age gap? She's four years younger than me.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah. I felt like I had to take care of my sister in a way, as well as my mom, because she kind of, I feel like she sort of became infantilized in a weird way because she was depressed because of the passing. And so I think emotionally, I was more like, I did more of the physical things like I think a dad would do,
Starting point is 00:24:33 and I feel like my sister, because she was the younger baby, became more of like the emotional caretaker. I would do like things around the house, like, kill the bugs. Like, I feel like that's kind of like a thing a guy does. Yeah. I would fix, I put in toilets.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I put in two toilets. Yeah, because she also didn't want men in the house. Like, she was scared of men. Oh, blame her. Yeah. Yeah. So you must be so, like, resourceful and you can just do anything. I could do a lot of things, but don't tell my boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Okay. And I'll be like, I don't know. Yeah, she did a lot in Korea. I feel very protective over you. And I think that's why I get protective is because if I, if I see any, especially women, seem like they need to be taken care of or like Sarmah babied I'm more attracted to them like I want like I become that person
Starting point is 00:25:26 Look whose ears of perk I'm just sitting here doing nothing I'm not saying anything You snap easily at your mom I used to but I started doing EMDR therapy this year And that changed a lot of things That's where I'm struggling with right now, because I think that my sister and I, same, similarly, like, infantilized my mom. I felt as though, like, my mom did a lot of things in, like, the physical sense.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Like, you know, she's very, like, brute. Always, like, cleaning, moving, doing things, but never met, like, our emotional needs, like, ever, ever. So now I feel like she's very emotionally, like, stunted. So I feel like I snap at her. And my therapist is, like, this reason you snap at her because you're the parent. And she's, like, the child. you have to emotionally take care of. And it's too much for me and I feel resentful.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So I don't know how to talk to her in like a soft, tender way. And that's what I've been working on in therapy. What kind of therapy do you do? I've done EMDR, but I just talk therapy. But that's the number one thing I'm working on is like how do I learn to speak to her in a way that she deserves? Because I only know the dynamic of my mom's, like emotional immaturity and me being the one to try to like put the pieces together in a family
Starting point is 00:26:49 including my sister does the same thing with her so it's like i hate to be i don't want to be her abuser yeah i don't want to be the person that like like talks to her in that way like that's not fair to her she's she's lovely yeah it's like is it like your projections of like it annoys you that you are doing that or at treating her this way when you don't you actually don't want to i don't want to yeah i'm stuck in a state of of somewhere in the past Like, my mouth is still in 1998. How does she react when it happens? In a way that makes me even sadder, which is she just takes it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 She doesn't fight back. She feels like, okay, this is probably what, like, I deserve, and she doesn't deserve it. But are you sure that it's like, oh, I deserve it or it's not, or because don't you feel like as a mom? I don't know. I'm like, I could take whatever shit my kid throws at me. And it doesn't, it won't bother me. know that's like naive now like she's just a baby but I do kind of see my mom do that and I just feel like I understand it and I feel like as a mom like you just take it and it may not it may
Starting point is 00:27:56 maybe it does bother you I'm sure in many cases it does but there's a chance it doesn't bother her I correct her a lot and I don't like that I correct her a lot like English is not her first language she's supposed to be making mistakes I correct no one else is English but hers like And I know why I do it. It's because she corrected me a lot when I was younger in a way that was very forceful and physical and abusive. So now, like, it's turned around. Whether or not she feels okay about me doing that, it doesn't make me feel good at the end of the night. I'm like, why did I talk to my mom like that?
Starting point is 00:28:29 And you'll see the text messages I write her, mom, I love you. I'm so sorry. Like, I snap. Like, it's... Really? Yeah, because I hate that about myself. I don't treat anyone else like that, but her. And that's my mom.
Starting point is 00:28:43 and I'm a mom now like if my kid treated me the way like I treated my mom I'd be devastated I think Oh why yeah I see I feel very similarly but different like Because especially when I'm around my dad Like I'm so mean to him
Starting point is 00:29:00 Like he actually went to a farmer's market In my hometown because we were out of town to get apples And I'm like dad like this is like you need to get Like perfect apples like I Take this seriously like put on your jeweler's glasses are like fucking do this right and then he comes home with the apples and i'm looking at them like i'm like come here what's this what this is a bruise and like i'm just so
Starting point is 00:29:28 abusive to him in a way that but it's like maybe it's like more of a funny abusive yeah is that abusive it's like oh this apples i don't i feel like you guys have that though maybe yeah like maybe it's two-sided, and maybe you feel like yours is one-sided or something. It is one-sided. She can't, she doesn't have a comeback for me. Your dad does. Right. She used to, though, right? She used to
Starting point is 00:29:53 growing up with you. Yeah, she was just very, like, authoritarian when I was growing up, so I had no voice. So then it reversed. It reversed. When did it reverse? When I grew up and I, she couldn't, like, physically hurt me as an adult anymore. Like, when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:30:09 I think that I felt very, very unheard and voiceless and I never had a choice. Yeah, but my poor mom, man, she's fucking awesome and I love her and she's changed and she started Lexapro and she's in therapy. She's also so fun and funny and silly, and weird. But that's a thing. I'm trying to see her the way everyone sees her, which is like not, I can't see her through those lenses yet because I'm still like stuck in a weird little childhood thing.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's like having to let go of part of it is like your ego. It is my ego. Yeah, you have to separate and like almost forgive her for everything she's done. Yeah. You know, that's what helped me was like, I was like, she's human. I have to keep reminding myself, she's human, she's human. She had her own issues the same way we do now, you know? That's what helped me.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And then having to, actually, when I did EMDR, there was a, there was something that I had to do where I had to put my mom in an imaginary box and detach her from me because I felt like I had to live for her. Everything I did, you know, financially. Everything is like my responsibility. And until I put her in this box and I started like bawling my eyes out that she was not part of me in a certain way and she'll be fine, that that was like the big like revelation I had of how close I was to her. Yeah. I think that makes me super emotional because like I think that the reason that you are so hurt by like your mother is because you are so tethered to her. You know, like you forget that you're even like a separate. being from her. Yeah. Because they do so much for us. They did. Even if they brought us pain, it's still, they're still us. Yeah. We have so much of us in them. Yeah, that makes a lot of sounds to me. And I think I haven't known, I don't know how to do that to untether myself from my mom. Because like, in many ways, like, I still need her so much, you know. But I don't know how to tell her I need her because I'm like, this like strong adult. And I'm like trying to just get
Starting point is 00:32:09 shit together but like I need my mom so I don't know it's just a weird thing but thanks for sharing yeah yeah it's just the whole mind fuck me I think because I'm a mom and like she's really like stepped up in like such beautiful ways and like when I see her like hold my baby I'm like is that how she loved me and you know I'm like that's probably how she loved me that's probably how she adored me and I couldn't see it then so like it gives me more perspective, but also like, like no matter how, no matter what, no matter what, like she is the top tier goddess in my life. Like she birthed me and I, I think that's why I have the feelings that I have of like, please just like be my mommy, you know. Yeah. Thank you for sharing
Starting point is 00:32:59 that. Yeah. One of the biggest revelations that I had after like, you know, delivering Ace, getting through the, like, panic of her going to the NICU, and then her finally being released and, like, looking at her in my hospital bed and being, like, this is what I am to my parents. Yeah. Wow. Whoa. Like, that doesn't, whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It just, like, shakes the snow globe, like, crazy. Crazy, right? Yeah, that is, and I, you know what, I was recently watching this interview with Amanda Knox, you know, like, accused of, falsely accused of. murder in Italy. She said that the moment that she gave birth, Amanda, to her first child, the baby was crying. And she's like, oh my God, like the baby's crying. And like, I want to help it. My baby, but I, there's nothing I can do. And then she like looked at her mom in the corner of the room was like, oh my God. That's how my mom felt when I was fucking in prison, falsely
Starting point is 00:33:57 accused. And it just like, I don't know. It's just like that new feeling unlocks. And then you're like, oh, it's like so much. Yeah. That is a lot. But let's hard pivot. For me, I would say one of the pettiest reasons I've ever requested money. When I was on a date with two friends of mine that I was setting up, so I was like the third wheel on the date. And I paid for the ice cream. And I was like, you're the guy.
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Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah, major, major, major. So, you know, we had Laura Bites here a couple of weeks ago, and Esther told a story about how she has bloody sheets. Me and Laura were like, ew, why do you have bloody sheets? she's like it's not even my blood it's like her husband's blood he picks his legs yeah and then Lara and I like basically humiliate her and said who cares who's blood it is like it's disgusting and well this week um I have been rolling around in only bloody sheets oh um not only did I apparently I don't have a concept of my own period anymore but bled through as I was asleep and then panicked in the morning and called my partner
Starting point is 00:41:45 over and I was like baby you got to help me on his way to like help me he nicks his knuckle and then proceeds to add more blood to the sheets as as it was happening I was like oh I get it I'm so sorry I ever judge you for bloody sheets it happens I have to think about whether or not I can forgive you for this I will I will accept it if you never forgive me but bloody sheets do happen guys let me find my religion and think about it Do you guys ever have bloody sheets? All the time, always. It's always happening.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Because I always overestimate, I underestimate how long it's going to be. It'll be like a week, right, of period. And then I'm like, after three days, I get kind of cocky. I'm like, no, I got this, right? It's fine. And then I stop using anything. And it just goes, yeah. That's so normal to me too.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like that, I feel like that's such a normal part of my cycle where it's like, Three days. Oh, there's nothing on day four. And then day five, you're like, what? We had an agreement and it's coming back. It just throws one. And then I'm like, oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 But it's also I want to save the pads because I'm cheap. Yeah. So you'd rather mess up your sheets. Yeah, because I'll be like, because I'll be like, oh, there's nothing. There's nothing. It's been six hours. Yeah, this is a waste of it. Look at how big this is.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Hold on. It's like his big boat. Yeah. It's like, and it's so much material that I'm wasting for nothing, so I'll stop using it. I'm confused of like the amount, like, how, why, why is it getting heavier after the fourth, like? It's not, it just throws a bomb. It's just really weird. Like, you'll have a day in the middle of it where there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:43:33 We're the same. I know. And then the next day, it's like, no, I'm still here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember, in Korea, I had my period and you offered to give me stuff. and I was like, no, don't waste it. That's true.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah, I was like, don't waste it. It's good material. Don't waste it. Yeah. What are other ways that you are cheap and don't like to waste? I won't throw away the bloody sheets. I'll use it. I'll keep you in it.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I understand that. Yeah, bloody panties I keep. I keep everything I keep. You know what? I could say one. What? She had a hoarding tendency with grape fruits that we would get. Oranges, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:12 From the breakfast. And eggs. And so by. the end we had like a basket of grapefruits that weren't eaten and then and eggs for me it's like waste yeah like at the end when i left i had so many hard-boiled eggs and oranges in my hotel room i feel like he do have to bring the hard-boiled eggs though right yeah for my throughout my day they don't last but throughout my day yeah oh if i'm gonna because at breakfast they have it and i'm like well i'll want that later but i just ate two eggs i'm not going to eat four eggs
Starting point is 00:44:44 right now. So later, I would like two eggs, though. Buffet-style meals do bring out the worst in everyone. And it could even be a worse that you're not expecting. Like, maybe someone under eats.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And you're like... Dad used to piss me the fuck off. So I used to go with my friend Marianne to the Vegas buffets. And I went twice and after that I was like, never the fuck again with this person. She doesn't know how to do it. Her strategy is all wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And she just goes, like, she's like carb frenzied. And I'm like, The expensive stuff here is the meat. So it's like, unless you know, like, the hierarchy of price, like, I need you, if we're paying $46, which is, like, you know, expensive back then, I need you to go heavy on the prime rib. I need you to go heavy on what I think is the expensive stuff. The rice we can make at home. All the shit that you're loading your plate with is, like, cheap shit that we can get anywhere. It's not no $46 fucking.
Starting point is 00:45:40 So, like, eat the meat. Yeah. And she just didn't, and I'll never go with her again. It's like a privilege. Is she privileged? No, she's not actually. She just, like, loves rice. And also, like, I don't like people who, like, leave.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I don't like people who leave the buffet when they're full. You need to stay and, like, recover. Get hungry again. And then go back. That's my strategy. It's not because we didn't, I don't really go for the expensive stuff. I do. I try.
Starting point is 00:46:12 but not everything, but I go for length. Length. My strategy is length of time. We stayed at the buffet. We'll stay for five hours. I agree. I've never thought of length. Yeah, because you can't, they won't kick you out, right?
Starting point is 00:46:27 So it's like you just have to take your time. You can't front load too hard. You just have to really, I mean, for me, it's, it's, buffet is like an Olympic sport. Like if, I agree. You need to come with a really strong, like, game plan or, No soda. That pisses me off when people get soda.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And, like, those bubbles are filling you up. Yeah. That's a waste of space. And I'll wrap things up in the napkin to take with me. Always. Yeah. Have a big purse. This is our buffet.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Or this is what we did. But I don't think this is good enough for Kalila. Let me see. Because it's like, because we're doing a lot of veggies. Because we're trying to poo on the trip a lot. I feel like veggies. I feel like poo is on the top of my priority list. Me too.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I'm always trying to poo. Because she wasn't pooing, and then I... And so... Let's let everyone know. It's fair. You know what, sorry. So I was like trying to get her to eat vegetables. So we loaded on vegetables a lot, which I don't think is that expensive.
Starting point is 00:47:29 It's not. Yeah, but when you're in a different country, they're like fresher and less poisoned. I feel like that is the move. Yeah. One thing that pisses me off that me and Dave, my husband don't agree on at buffets, is I always, when I'm going for round two, I always start with a clean plate and he'll always go back with the same plate
Starting point is 00:47:46 I know There's other residual I know he's like you're wasteful I'm like this is an experience like round two needs to be fresh Like I don't want to remember what I did in round one There's like tomato juices and stuff
Starting point is 00:48:02 And meat juices It's fine Rarely do we ever get a chance to like Get a clean plate for every set of you know you're right it is you that is the experience you pay for as well utensils clean plates yeah what's his problem so many things he also doesn't like when i get ice cream samples with ice cream shop what that's you're right as a person i know i disagree i agree with dave here what because esther doesn't do it in a regular person way what do you do it how does she do it she will sit there
Starting point is 00:48:36 and take her time she won't look back at the behind her? No, I will. I will nowadays. I just, yes. Yes, but one sample is often not enough for me. I need to try, like the other thing. And the way she does it too, it's very, uh, she'll lick it and she go,
Starting point is 00:48:54 No, I don't. It's not like an immediate, I want this or I don't want this. That's true. She will take her time and just be like, what are the notes, like, what are, she's like calculating it in her head. But can I argue that that's okay because, Because ice cream is a frill. It's not a necessity.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So if there's a line, everybody chose to be there. You know? That's a hot take. So like you're choosing to line up for ice cream. That's silly. You know what I mean? That's a price you pay. You're in the silly world now.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You're in the fucking captain. Yeah, you're doing a silly activity and it's okay. Like, if somebody wants to take their time and you're giving up this time. Like, you're not lining up for bread or... It's not a basic need. Yeah. Like, where you need it. So it's like, oh, I'm starving.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Like, nobody's starving for ice cream. You know? It's going to be a line. Thank you. That's a great take. I think I might be sold now. Thank you. I just feel like everything that's afril, it's like, you chose this.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah. So if it's two hours, it's two hours. You can cry about it. Yes. Yeah. That's beautiful. Do you start sampling bread and like real, real food? That's when it's a problem, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:16 Not to assume that you guys know anything about, like, K-pop, but Esther, why is it that you are such a fan of, like, huge, like, pop stars and, like, including, like, girl groups back in the day, but I feel as though you have no interest in today's, like, K-pop girl groups. I think that's more of a reflection. of like emptiness in your childhood and like your famous hot beautiful women
Starting point is 00:50:47 like being your mommy or your best friend or like filling your needs and now I'm like a little bit you know now it's like I have those set in stone
Starting point is 00:51:00 like the Madonna the Gaga the Brittany and so it's like harder for me to find new people like even someone like Chapel Roan who she has some hits I love. Like I'm not going to be, she's not going to be my mommy. You know, she's just like out there.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So you don't have space. Yeah, I don't have a lot of room right now at this age. Even Sabrina Carpenter who's like blowing my mind sometimes. But I'm like, I'm never going to get to that stand level, I think. I don't know. It's just like shocking to me that you are such like a pop girlie and you're very, you dive deep. It's almost like when I turned 21 Like there's no room for like a new
Starting point is 00:51:40 Like Gaga was probably the last one to like get in for me I agree with that I was like doing a lot in my teens Because I had so much time Yeah And there was no parents Or anything Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:55 I was the only child, no siblings So then I was like Oh I love Twilight And I love One Direction And Justin Bieber Is I'm good or bad tend to be more creative, more independent. But kind of brat, no, brady?
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah, but like in a way that I envy. But I feel like you have a little bit of like this. I think it's the attachment part. Maybe you attach yourself. Did you attach yourself to like your grandma or something or your. Yeah. Who did you do that with? Because she's actually considered compared to my other friends who are like only children.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Only children. She does have that creative part of like, I think individuality in that way. But I do think that you do have like a little bit of like a, like a, you think about other people. But I think that's because we've always been like, my mom felt like my sibling. Yeah, because she was always getting into trouble. And then my grandparents would be like, oh, she's doing something. We have to make it better.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So it was like the consideration of we have to make my mom feel better. I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was always like, how is my mom feeling? How it, like, so everybody was like laser focused on my mom and how she was feeling. if she was okay.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Well, that doesn't, that sort of like erases the only child experience then. If there was always someone like you had to, where the focus was her on her instead. Yeah. But I guess I only have it with like objects and like food. Like my only childness comes out where I'm like, that's mine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah, I don't like to share. Yeah. Me too. Food. What if someone picks off your plate, like are you freaking out? I'm thinking about it the rest of the meal. Can you tell them in that moment? I'm just like, yes, of course, have it.
Starting point is 00:53:39 But then I look at them as they're eating it. And I'm like, disgusting. This happened to me. The other night, I was at the comedy store and Bobby was there and I was eating a bag of chips. And he was talking these two people and one of the, and I was standing next to him. And this woman was like, oh, can I have a chip? To you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And I was like, I couldn't believe it. Did you know her? No. Okay, that's weird. I couldn't believe it. I didn't know. And I said, I was like, you really want to take one of my chips? I said that.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And she's like, oh, never mind. It's okay. And I was like, no, it's fine. And I gave her like half a chip. But you pulled it out yourself. Yeah. You broken and... It was broken when I pulled it out.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That wasn't on purpose, I swear. But I was like, can you have a chip? It's a small bag. You're taking one of my chips. It's just just like... And is that? crazy of me I don't know that instance no because you don't know her and she's not a friend but are you one of those kids in elementary school that like like like crunched the bottom
Starting point is 00:54:42 of the chip bag so they couldn't take too much oh whoa I never do a sacrilylyche's thing like there was there was that I hated these kids where like you knew that they were maybe forced to share but they found a hack to not sharing oh my god so when someone's hand when your hand would enter the chip bag they would hold like the bulk of the chips like this so you couldn't go past like half the bag of the chips so you can only really pull one I don't know about that hack wait so when can I ask like when that happens yeah like when she'd asked for did you feel like she was selfish or did you feel like like what what did you think of the other person I was so shocked I was just like how could you ask me for a chip like is that what people do and I just don't know because I'm not normally walking around
Starting point is 00:55:28 eating chips like is that the culture of eating chips it just was so weird I'm like I know I would certainly never ask someone first of all who wants one chip maybe her sugar was dropping but can I say that's useless I do think it is the culture of chips I do think so that's what I'm wondering because it's like there are so many chips but those small bags there's like none in there that's true and I just think what is one chip going to do you like I'll taste taste of it. Yeah. And then you're just going to want more.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Because I'll see the bag and I'll be like, whoa, what's that like? No. To a stranger? And then you have the taste of your mouth. You know, bags of chips? They're always doing weird flavors. These were just plain. They were lays.
Starting point is 00:56:17 They were not plain. I think I hate plain chips. They're a barbecue. That's normal. I would never be like, whoa, what's that like? No, she wasn't, whoa, what's that like? She's like, can I have a chip? I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:56:26 I just couldn't believe it. I felt like I was under attack. That's really crazy That it's not a special Like lime zesty one or whatever No Did you bring it from home? No I found it in the green room
Starting point is 00:56:37 Okay well she could have just gotten one No she wasn't a comedian Because they only have those chips in the green room Sound off in the comments guys Is it okay to ask Even if it is like for me That's a boundary cross Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:50 Because then I have to say no And then it's like She said no she wouldn't share her chips Then we're like 11 years old and I'm like a little brat. I'm still spineless. I would have just, because I can't say no.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Me too. I wouldn't share. I just be like, here, have it. And then go back and get another bag. Because I don't know how to say no. Me too. I'll get annoyed and I'll say yes,
Starting point is 00:57:11 but then I'll just secretly have a grudge. That is scary. We're scary people because we don't know, like, they don't know we're holding that grudge. They don't know that we're like bitching about it to our friends for like two days. But I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:24 But they should have known to not do that. to me but if we're in like a restaurant setting and it's like family not not family style so um i have my own plate of um carbonara say for instance if you want some of mine like i don't care like i'm always like i don't care it's like a pleasure for me to when someone asks her it's very like communal and it makes me feel very
Starting point is 00:57:48 like in like in a loving safe space yes um but you don't feel that way if i okay if you're if you have your plate of carbonara and i don't ask and i just like hey i want want to taste that and I twirl it in my fork are you like like raging out in your head well it depends on it depends how much I love them yeah but also gender yeah like if a man does that I guess seething rage I'm thinking it depends on portion and portion yes because sure if it's a big portion sure that's easy have some but if what if it's like no this is I want this that is a weird that is interesting thing you said because I think I'd be mad to if it was it might be
Starting point is 00:58:27 ick if we were on a first date and he took from my plate immediately because then it's like oh you're not a provider you're a taker yeah and can I also say this is very specific if it all women I'm like that's cool have it but if I don't like their boyfriend and they take from my the woman takes from my plate I'll think because I think of boyfriends as a like or partner as extensions of that woman and if I don't like that boyfriend and I think they're disgusting I don't like it when that woman takes from my plate or shares food with me. I relate to this. I have a specific memory that I will never get over. I have to bring it up to my mom for like just a therapeutic conversation once a year. But one time we were at Red Robin,
Starting point is 00:59:21 it was me, my mom, my sister, my niece and my nephew. And my sister ordered an onion tower like a tower of onion rings whatever and it was only like halfway eaten and then she ordered a second one to go like that's for your boyfriend oh she's like denying it but it's like obvious right so she ordered this onion tower to go for her boyfriend who I hate and to this day I'm still thinking about the 1199 that I fucking spent on that man's onion onion Tower. It drives me nuts. That would drive me nuts. That's when we need to go to the rage room.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Okay, onion tower. He has a couple of things I have in my list now for you in the rage room. Like, I could call my mom right now and she would like, be like, yeah, the Onion Tower. It's an interesting thing for me because I have had girlfriends with shitty boyfriends, and I really had to learn to, like, extricate. Like, I have to separate them because, or else, it's like, well, it's like, when they tell you a story about this dude. And even if it's a positive one, I'm like in doing a lot of internal eye rolling.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. But I have to like sit there and just like, don't be judgmental. Don't be, don't say he's a coquette. Don't say all of these things. You want to just unload, right? And you're just like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 She's like, well, what do you think? I'm like, you know, I can't make that decision for you. But I'm like, I want to make this decision for you. But like, it's so hard. But if that, you're right. If her boyfriend was present and she's taking off of my plate, that would I think send me into it.
Starting point is 01:00:57 But even if he's not present, like I still don't like it. Just because you share the same spit. Yes. So then you're the same at the moment of your dating. Also, it's like you're sharing your resources with her, which is now a combined resource with him. Yeah, and I don't want to benefit him ever. I know. And also, I don't want his like ecosystem in my.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I know. tangled in mind because I did not choose to be with him. You did. So funny. And I find him disgusting. So I don't want any of his like chemicals near me. Is there usually a specific reason why you dislike this person or like just you think they're a bad boyfriend to her or they're like gross? Like gross. Yeah. If I if I if I feel that they are dirty or disgusting. Because it's more of like a microbiome thing. Oh okay. And hatred. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but hatred. Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 01:02:00 We don't exchange microbiomes in my family. Do you guys not share tooth brushes with your lovers at all? Are you so disgusting? What are you? Do you? I do. I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 But that's what I'm saying. You're, you become one, you know? Toothbrush? Mm-hmm. Well, you're kissing that person. You aren't kissing. Tartar. You're scraping tartars.
Starting point is 01:02:21 We're exchanging tartar. Yeah, we're kissing. We do it. That is so nasty. Oh, I hate you. You had someone's child. You had the sperm inside of your... You have, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:02:36 That's true. You have fragmented DNA of days inside you. That's fine, but tartar. Tartar. I don't think tartar is that easy to like swim around. You know, you don't dislodge Tartar that easy. That is like a dental appointment thing. You don't think the toothbrush is filled with the bacteria.
Starting point is 01:02:53 It is. The bacteria, sure, but we're swapping bacteria all day. I'm like disgusted by my own. toothbrush. And by the way, by the way, I'm telling you, if let's say there's a world where Dave and I had never met and he had been single the last 12, 13 years, this man would still have the same toothbrush for the last 13 years. He never, he does not know like the etiquette of changing. So I literally, I'm like the toothbrush fairy. Every three months, like there's a brand new toothbrush laying out for him. I don't know. This makes sense in like a mother children way
Starting point is 01:03:26 though, because I think you're not supposed to be kissing your very young kids or babies, because apparently the bacteria in our adult mouth can cause them, like, dental carries. Whoa. So you could be passing off, passing on to each other, like, not good things. But I think my teeth have been stronger than sharing with him, because I think that he has, like, really great dental hygiene or whatever it is that he's giving me, like, I feel stronger. I'm more worried about not the. tartar, but like just the pieces of food
Starting point is 01:03:58 that gets stuck in the toothbrush. So you're not, you don't actually do it. It's fine because I kiss them. So you're going to clean the toothbrush. You're not going to leave food in the toothbrush. There's got to be stuff in there. Like we can't see. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It's probably disgusting. You don't have like a UV light that cleans your tooth. Never mind. You really would share your toothbrush with a lover. Yeah. Not any old lover though. Like in a relation only. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. Not some Miranda. Fuck. I get it, but you even thinking that that is, like, making it better is pathetic to me, all of you. At some point, like, him and I are going to have, like, the same microbiome. Like, like, he said, it's, we're sharing forks and spoons. When you guys wipe your ass, do you take the toilet paper and then go here? There's still some white on it.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Take it. I would. I would, too. I would, too. Okay. I need the comments to, like, come in strong. I know that dentists say you're correct. Like, I think that what I've heard is you're not supposed to, obviously.
Starting point is 01:04:59 But this is also in like desperate measures, I would say. Like if we went camping and only one of us had a toothbrush. Yeah, we're not choosing to do it. Would you rather not brush your teeth at all? I don't know what would happen, but I would not share. I would use my finger. I would use a leaf. I would not share a toothbrush.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Or just rinse around with toothpaste. I wouldn't even share toothpaste. What? You have your own tube? Okay. Because you touch the thing. Yes, actually, I agree with that. What?
Starting point is 01:05:27 When friends, no, but when friends want to like scrape it off or something, I'm like, oh, you're touching the toothbrush to the toothpaste that is, you know. Yeah, but I have like really strict. This is like where my little like OCD does flare up. Like also if I'm at a dinner and like we're sharing, there has to be serving spoons. And like I've had to train people in my life on that one because if you're using your spoon. and take like the meal is dead to me like that is so scary to me and I know that's like kind of illogical but it's just like it makes me very uncomfortable do you share your drinks with with the straw to anyone in your life no even like a bite of like dessert you don't sure that with
Starting point is 01:06:11 people you know unless they with their own spoon yeah if you have a clean if I use a clean spoon once and then okay to the chip thing sometimes people are we drinking something with a straw and sometimes they'll be like can I try I'm what do you say yeah Yes, huh? I say yes, and then I have so much rage inside of my heart and after. But I am jealous, because I see these TikToks of these girls where they get all like four smoothies and then they're like, I'm having a sip and I watch it like, wow, that's so cool. But like I could never do that.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I mean, if I really wanted to try someone's drink and they had a straw, I would usually like pop the lid open and then like drink it from another. Or point of conscious, or do the pour. Yeah. That's like what I've seen me and Jenna have done is like the poor. because she's a little kooky too But I mean I don't think it's I think that should be normal Like that should be more normalized
Starting point is 01:07:01 Not sharing everything Because we are exchanging like Microbi Isn't that a good thing We're supposed to like we have kids playing with each other When they're young so that they share Like they're stronger in their micro Like their immune system is stronger
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's weaker Less exposed yeah That's why they get sick more often Oh but they should have more exposure So they should get stronger Yeah But then we bounce back not as well as them. I think that's my point is they bounce back more easily.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I'm all about like cleanliness and like hygiene and I take like three showers a day. What? This is maybe my blind spot. Which is crazy to me. That is so crazy. I share everything all the time and I never have an issue with it. Yeah. Same.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I'm kind of like that. Yeah. I don't mind if things fall, I'll eat it. Like I'm pretty okay with like drums. like yeah within my own family we'll share like have a bite of this and then we'll share all the same spoon and no one gives a shit yeah i think it's a really big mental issue for me like even if it was healthy like to share microbiomes like it is a mental deceit disorder yeah it's okay well i think it's healthy to share with someone healthy but if it's someone know that by observing them well with their color you know everything because there's the fec the the fecal Transplants. Yeah, which for a while, like, I was thinking about it. I told Stephanie I would give her my poo.
Starting point is 01:08:29 But do you think your poo is, like, superior? I think I'm very regular and I'm very superior and healthy. Because I'm very, I do. Pretty cocky. Every day. Yeah, okay, but you knew how. But I was, like, very touched that you would give me some of my poo. Yeah, I would give you your poo.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I know. I was really like, wow. I don't think, because you're not the type of person to give anyone your poo. Or anything. That's true. So I could just tell that I was like, This is a huge honor that you would allow me to access this. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:58 But the crazy thing is, can I say something? With people I love, I will give and share things. But that means that you like my boyfriend because you know that if he. Yeah, I think your boyfriend is probably clean and nice. We had a meal together. The three of us. He was the barbecue. He cooked it.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I was like, that's good. That's a sweet guy. But what were you going to say? Just like the food that we're talking about, me eating your poop would be him eating my, your poop as well. Oh, yeah. That's right. It would be a family. Fair. And I think that'd be good. It benefits my one single poop. Benefits two people. That's very good. Yeah. No, I'm good at that. You like that you're getting a good deal. But we were talking about how this would happen without like, I don't know if I want to know that I would be eating her poop. I was like, you need to like, she needs to dose it. She needs a tabloat. No, it goes in your butt hole. Oh, what? Yeah, you, it's a fecal transplant. It just pushes it in your butt. In a capsule. But you can eat it. You can either eat it or put it in your record.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Oh, you thought you were just going to shove shit right into someone else's asshole. That's how I would do it at home. But some people would do that, yeah. If I was to do it, yeah. Yeah. That could be fun. I feel like this could go on and on, though. I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:07 We've learned a lot today. And the comments need to come through about not sharing toothbrushes. I really need you guys because I'm a little on the island. You think? Yeah. Because everyone in the room is on your side. I think that yours is the correct way and it's what dentists will tell you. But we're disgusting heathens.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I think we're special in that perspective. Well, on that note, thank you to our guests, Andrea and Steffi. Andrea, are you on tour right now? I've just been opening for people, but I am not, but I will be in the spring. Yeah, so look out for that, I guess. Yeah, at Andrea Chin everywhere and dot com. And do you have somewhere we should find you? You can go on to my Instagram at Steffie Bake, and we might be bringing back cash cuties, so.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I love being on that show. Oh, yeah, that was so fun. You would love, they break down your monthly expenses. Oh, that's so good. Yes, mine are so bad right now. It's really bad. We'll find problems with it, too. We'll find the issues.
Starting point is 01:11:17 You guys are super nice about it, too. You were like, this is why you're a sweet person, but also you're spending too much on guasha lady like yeah but so it's it was like really fun mine is just all door dash it's disgusting i'm on tour this coming weekend i'm going to be in portland oregon at the aladdin theater get tickets at uh pretty little baby tour dot com and a link below and that'll be in seattle denver olympia washington philly new york and boston and klyla what's going on with you i have um ebb ocean club at ebbosion club dot com and we're coming to a retailer near you very soon so you know watch out for that thank you everyone for being here and listening
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