Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - The Unhinged 90s Episode w/ Jenna & Jules

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

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What are you wearing? What are you wearing? I like it. It was a windbreaker. It's all I had. Oh, it's not separate. It's one hole. And I'm wearing my Alan Iversons.

Yes, yes. That I can get with. Welcome to Trash Tuesday. It's 90s day. In what world did we think, And we're going to show up in anything but slowns, our lazy asses. She tailored a theme perfect to us where we could just do what we always do. Just show up as we always come.

Next week, it'll be bed rotters. Shout it to our golden slug, Brandon. Check us out at patreon.com slash trash Tuesday podcast or the link below. And we have new bonus episodes every week. Hi, Slugs. I am so excited because I am officially going on tour and it is starting so soon we're right around the corner first september 12th and 13 i'm going to be in madison wisconsin for the first time ever i had to reschedule last time i was never able to do

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I'm coming to a lot of cities that I haven't been to in a long time and I won't be able to get to for a while because I am a baby. But I'll see you guys there. Here we are. We're hanging Jenna's thing. She's having a crisis because water has spilled into her purse and electronics. Let's just say that clearly. Plain water. Plain watson.

In fact, 24 ounces of it all over my electronics is what I care about. You baptize your stuff. It's all good. Wait, so I actually have a really important thing that we have to talk about before we get started. Like, this is very, very serious. Wait, but I just want to say, you look so hot right now. What? Yeah, you do.

Wait, never mind. Forget it. Forget what I was going to say. Like, what is this that you're wearing? Like, so hot. Okay, can I say my theory? What? As a female stand-up comedian, I think, like, this is what I'm supposed to.

look like like Janine Garoflo in the 90s like that just looks right on me but you're wearing what you wear every day ask Jules but for some reason you're like glowing oh it's your tank top okay this is really important okay and for this friend group to survive this is something that I need I don't need it to survive and it's really serious and I need you guys to take it seriously I need to know that I will always be the one in this friend group that has the most pity from everyone. And what are we feeling sorry for you for? I can't say right now specifically, but I'm just saying as long as you always feel

the most sorry for me, then this can work. That's really funny because I just sent her a voice note this morning telling her I did not feel bad for her at all. Well, as long as you feel more bad for me than you do the others. Is it a dopamine rush for you when I text you? like, oh, I'm so sorry, little one. No. You like those, right?

Well, I don't know what it is, but I do feel like. A little actually says pity. My pity. Oh, pity. Like, lately I feel like I've been texting, particularly you two, like some like struggles I've been having. Yeah. And I am starting to feel like, oh, am I wearing them down, but like I can't help it.

And it's just a text. You know, they're not phone calls. But I don't know. I just, do you guys pity me? They're not phone calls? For you sometimes. But I wouldn't dare call Kalaila. Yeah, you got a pencil even for that.

You need reservations for that. Do you feel like you were able to pity me? Genuinely, like the truth is I like pretend babying pitying you a lot. Yeah. It's like I do get a rush out of being like, oh, look at this helpless, helpless little thing. She can't figure it out today. Is the issue that I'm a white woman and you're an immigrant? And so you can't truly...

I can't relate to your struggles. But I'm a great empathizer. I can put myself in your shoes. Like, Kaila, put yourself in your white woman's shoes and really, like, dive into, like, character and, like, really... Character. Yeah. Put him in them, Birkenstocks. There are some things, though, where I'm like, I really, truly, like, don't relate.

But it doesn't mean it bothers me when you text me about it. I like it. I've found my soulmate. Jenna, you're fired. You know what's so funny is I just had this talk with my sister the other day where I was like there's nothing that makes me I think almost like angry and when someone pities me like it incites like a rage inside me I have a friend bless her heart but she's always like I just feel so bad for you everything you've gone through this year. here and she just it's like just on repetition where it's like and then she tells other people I'm just so like I just feel so much for Kalila and I'm just like hey I'm do it don't worry about me like shut the fuck up that doesn't even sound real that's a thing I wonder if that's what

it is like if there's a version of it where you know it's like disingenuous you know sometimes like you feel like someone likes when you're down because it makes them feel better are they only like you when you're down like that's classic or maybe where they feel more purposeful when I'm down, where they have like a bigger role in the friendship or in my life. But I don't like it. It makes me want to jump out of my own skin. Especially when they're telling it straight to my face.

Like, I'm just like, you've just been through so much. And I'm like, I don't know where to look. I'm like, ooh. Like, I'm my chopped liver. Do you have rabies? It doesn't bother me when you send me these texts all the time about like, oh, thanks. me because I know that I can genuinely be empathetic even if I don't understand okay even if I don't

understand what you're going through and that I don't have to actually feel sorry for you it's true like you you you want someone to hear you want your friends to listen to you and you also I really think deep down you don't want us to feel bad for you like you want the attention of like doting on you and caring for you in case you really needed it yeah you could confuse a shit out of me you are literally bobby You're like, here, like, do it on me, don't on me, but you don't want to be touched. It's like, it's so weird.

Or it's like, come be with me, but then only right here. Interesting. Or then you go careful. And she's like, what do you want, fucker? And I'm like, what? You literally asked me to come over to give you rubbies. Are you kidding me? You know what?

No, fuck you. It's crazy. But I thought you don't like physical touchess or so. What does it the Jenna do? Like, I usually don't, but lately, my, I've been achy. It's not even lately. She always, this has been like a secret of hers, where she wants me to give her these rubbies. And I'm going to say something that I hope doesn't ruin your life, because I don't know if you notice you do this, but.

What? Whenever I'm giving her rubbies, and this has been like for years. But I don't say anything because it's like, who cares? She goes? As I'm, okay, give me rubbies And I'm going to be Esther How do you rubies? Oh, it's like, it's a massage.

Okay, she just doesn't call it a massage Because that's Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. Do you know that you do that?

Yeah, I do know. Wait, tell them what I did this week. Which thing? Oh, my God. Guys. You know a kiss? Literally, like, Jenna was just looking at me and I was like zoning out.

Esther was laid the fuck out. I'd already given her like a two-hour massage rubbies. And she'll invite me over to watch TV, but it's really so that throughout the episodes. I mean, you get it. You do the same thing. She's right there with you. She'll be like, oh, if you could.

If you could, just do you think I could? But she doesn't like ask for it outright. She asks for it like backwards and is like, I don't want to bother you. But, you know, and I know, if it's too much, it's fine. That's so Attica Lila, though. Really? It's true.

And I try to, like, hide from Attica Lai. She literally does not engage with me at all. The fact that, like, she, I have imprisoned her little sister. Like, I have, the fact that, like, Jenna and Issa and my sister, and even, like, everyone in my life has had to tweeze my shins. Or give you sick. or whatever. Six, sick, sick. My hair. Jules has never, not once. Yeah, like, I know her moves. Like, once she's like, Jules or like, when she calls out and just to, like, watch TV. Yeah.

I'm like, it's okay at the five years. Oh, we're losers. Oh, my God. We're losers. And then she'll be like, you know, we can order food or something. Oh, my God. We're, like, creepy. We're so lonely. To me, I'm scared. It's like, it's like assault. Okay, this is what I think. I actually don't think it's creepy. because I think you guys are offering us something.

You're offering us like either food. You make food. You order food. We're hanging out. We're watching TV. We're having like actual hangout time in your nice homes, which we don't have. I know. All I really want in life is footsie-tootsies, you know?

I understand it. I get it. Like I would pay someone to just sit and like just, I don't know, give me rubs on my bag. Rubbies are great. Futsi-Tutzi. With Aloha, it's very lopsided because I'm like, babe, can we do footsy? Tutsi, and he's like, sure. And then, you know, Futsi Tutsi is like a 69.

We both rub each other's feats, right? But I don't do shit with his fucking trunks. I just sit there. It's like, you're Futsi, you're Tutsi. That's it. He's like, what about me? Nothing. There's no reciprocation.

I get it. And maybe it's like this part of me that likes to take care of people. But I'm like, I get it. Esther, it's very Lady Gaga of you. Did you see her documentary? Of course I did. She lived in masseuse. Yeah, that's my dream.

But then she also has fibromyalgia. She needs to. But I feel like I do too, or we all do. Yeah, we all have autoimmune stuff. I was just thinking about this. There aren't many girls that I know that don't have some form of autoimmune symptoms. And it makes me really sad. It is really sad.

And as girls, and I'm looking at the camera, we need to take better care of ourselves and each other because we are a very, very sick bunch. And on this note, sorry, if you had more to say. I just like, I can't think of a single guy who has an autoimmune, what, Nick Cannon? Dave. Oh, Dave. But he's like, you don't hear it as much. Like, every girl I know, it's always either a PCOS issue or some type of, like, connective tissue thing, or some type of lupus, like, arthritic, something. And the amount of hormones that, like, if one thing goes out of balance, your whole system is fucked.

It's because we're not taking care of ourselves and we hold things in and we take the burden of society and the burden of our partners and the patron. and the patriarchy and all that bullshit and we hold it in and we hold it in and we grin and bear and it turns into cancers and all these sickness and we have to stop doing it. We can't pass up this story though as well so just keep that in mind. I okay hold on

I'm so my sister is autoimmune what does she have? She has Hashimoto's and she has something else that I forgot. That's my mom has Hashimoto. This week we were FaceTiming me and my mom and my sister and literally on a Wednesday night at 5 p.m. My sister, who's in her 40s, is making herself a root beer float. I'm just like, I don't think adults should be making themselves rip beer floats.

I think that's, like, excessive and weird. She's like, I haven't had one in a year. I'm like, you can go your whole life without one. Like, I was so mean to her. And it is side note, like, how crazy I'm just willing to be so mean to my sister. But do you, could you picture? You can go a whole year without him. Could you think of your whole life?

Could you picture yourself having a root beer float? Isn't that crazy? Like, she needs to be better. I just pictured it. Like 42 or something, 43. Yeah, a root beer float once a year is not the end. Ask you a few of all people. I just think that's excessive.

Excessive? You sleep with gummy bears next to your fucking bed. It's a soda. And an ice cream at once. You have like six different sodas by your bed. I know because I cleaned your bedside table. That's because of something I'm going through. Bitch, it does not change if you're not going through something either.

This thing that I'm going through changes that. Your cream savers are all year round. I don't even eat those. You could wait until 30 years from now to have another cream saver. I will. I will. I feel like I'm on your sister's side here. Are you an almond sister?

Yeah. What's an almond sister? It's like an almond mom, but a sister. I'm so mean to her. And she just, it's so funny. Like, I'm just such a little cockroach to her. Nothing I say matters. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, almond mom is someone who is always patrolling their daughter's weight. That's gross. The classic thing is, mom, I'm hungry. Okay, have a handful of almonds. Yeah, very Yolanda Hadid. I have an almond mom and I think you know that. I too have a version of an almond mom. Jenna has a very different mom than us.

I mean... Very free spirit. Yeah, like, she's Jew, but like hippie Jew. Like, I remember growing up, if I was hungry every 40 minutes, I would, We'd eat every 40 minutes. And I remember sometimes, and then in the other way, I remember my dad coming from like a traditional Mexican family would be like, do you didn't finish? Judy and finish.

And my mom would be like, she said she's full. So she knows when she's full. I didn't hear that or clock that until I was much older. But like, she never commented on her weight. She never wore makeup. I could never imagine one of my parents going to bat for me again. the other. Really?

Yeah. That was not the vibe. That's sad. That makes me sad. Why are we doing a 90s theme today? You were talking about how you love the screen movies. Oh, yeah. And you watched Titanic, which came out in 97.

And I would love to hear of your thoughts. What a chokehold. I mean, that poster of Leo above my bed after Titanic. Do you know, I did, I've told this story before where I wrote him a long letter. I pressed flowers. It took me like. It's like a three-week process. He must have really loved that.

I never even got like a signed autograph, nothing. Should we try and get it to him now? He wouldn't be interested. Jules. Jules. He likes them young. Oh, you're still under the cutoff. Oh, true.

Yeah, but he's so ugly now. He doesn't like him brown, I don't think. I don't think so. Yeah. He doesn't like him brown, I don't think. Also, it's nasty. It makes him unattractive the fact that he likes young girls. Yeah.

It's like, I don't even see him. as an attractive person anymore. Yeah, it's like, yuck, nasty. Emotional pedophile. Arrested development. You want to be with someone that's, like, so much dumber than you. And that rumor where you said, like, he wears headphones when he has sex. Oh, yeah, I heard that.

So I think that the millennial dating crisis of dating apps and all the things that we're facing right now can all be traced back to the movie Titanic. And I'll tell you why. Okay. Rose duppicator. First of all, this whole story, it's like we all remember what, this love story, they should have been together. You should have survived.

Oh, my God, is amazing. Watch the fucking movie as an adult. First of all, this woman is having a mental breakdown at the start of the movie. She tries to kill herself. She's engaged to a wealthy man, and she's upset about it. And she's like, this isn't good enough for me. I do understand that he does become abusive later, and that could be seen as a problem. But he's so rich.

And not ugly. Billy Zane. He's so high to crush on him. I had a friend who dated him like five years ago. I do see him on the apps. You do? I think I would die. Really?

Yeah. Calden Hockley? Is that his name? In the movie. Oh, God. So, along comes this broke, homeless man. Sounds hot. When they ask him where he's living, he's type right there.

He's like, I'm in between. Does he work on the boat? No, they ask where you live? Is he a line cook? Right now, his address is RMS Titanic. This man is calling. Okay. So he works.

homeless and he's trying to get her to leave her fiance. Okay, I love it. No, no, no. And then what's crazy is like once she finally does decide, I feel like you delete. She's like when the ship's skedocks, I'm getting off with you. I think real people who are studying this can see he's like, oh fuck. He's like, I'm going to be stuck with this crazy woman. I think he's regretting it.

Now, of course, because it's like a love story, we have to all be like, oh, they're so perfect, whatever. I'm telling you, the only good thing that that man did was let her flow on the door frame by herself and him die in the ocean. And I think he did it on purpose because he wanted to die. He didn't want to go and spend his life with this woman and like deal with her. He's a fuck boy. And then oh my God, when she's going through his drawings. Oh, and all the women are naked are naked and he and yeah. Oh, he's like, no, I never hooked up with him. Okay. You just had the naked women and you're a hot guy. Oh, my God. That's like you had naked women in your phone and you go, Oh, I never hooked up with them.

I never talked to them. Right, right. He's so shady. Jack is a fuck boy. You're ruining my childhood. No, and I think this is why millennial women have like a dating crisis because we're fucked up from this movie. We walk away from that movie being like, Jack and Rose, Jack and Rose. No, these two are crazy.

Probably everything they were idolized in movies back then. Yeah. It was like, fuck boy nation. And then she goes on to think like he's a love of. What do you mean Devon Sawa as Casper? I love Devon Sawa. I just told Esther that my. My haircut was Devin Sawa, and she's like, who's that?

He's on our other podcast next week. Oh, really? Oh. No, I was the kid in Casper. He was the ghost in Casper. Oh, wait, is that the other guy with the hair like that? He was in Little Giants. Do you guys really remember the people in movies you saw 20 years ago?

I mean, he was just like a heartthrob. He was like such a hot boy back then. And, Jenny, your hair looks like Jared Leto in my so-called life. I know. That's where I was like, my hair looks like Devin Sauer. She's like, no. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

Anyways, Titanic is so shady and it's all about a fuck boy. But I also saw like a similar movie, Materialist, the new movie with Dakota Pedro Pascoe and Chris Evans. And I was just so mad because this bitch chose the broke guy instead of Pedro Pascal, millionaire. And like, at the end, Chris Evans, like, proposed to her and he couldn't afford a ring. He just gave her a flower. And it's like, do you want to do something stupid? Ew. And it was just so stupid.

Wait, okay, tell me, though. Was Pedro Pascal rich, but like... There was nothing wrong, except for the surgery, because there was, they said that there was a surgery where you can, like, break your bones to make you taller. Yeah. And that was the only thing that he did. He wasn't abusive. He wasn't... Was there some chemistry between them?

There was. She liked her, but then Dakota and Chris Evans had a previous relationship, so she was. She felt more drawn. And it's just, you're really into that. Because also it's like somehow no matter what, the white guy won. My basis for all of this is it's okay that he is, this is like real life now, not movies. When you're choosing a man. It's okay that he hasn't quite reached his financial peak.

It's okay. Yeah. Whatever it is. Or his financial peak is different. Yeah. I need to know. that if everything ends for me tomorrow that this motherfucker

is gonna, it has us that he's going to do by hook or crook, make sure that there is shelter over my head, that there is food on the table, that we are safe and protected. If you cannot guarantee me this, I am never letting

you in here. Like never. It's totally about like being with someone that's not a do nothing. Like a guy who's just like fine with nothing. Yeah, that's a no. They can be broke, but it's like as long as they're on their climb and their build and they have passion and continuously working towards. Oh, yeah. I mean. I'm always thinking post-apocalyptic stuff, though. I need to know that he can protect and serve the family. Well, you know, I didn't think that one through because Dave said the second the apocalypse comes, he's hanging himself.

And that me and Dona and Ace are on our own. You have Jenna. I feel like you were thinking of me, though. You were like, that's okay. I have my husband. No, what I really thought was that's okay. I'm getting a stray jacket. You're staying alive. I'll drag you along with us. I do want to see you and Dave, like, physically, like, fight. Do you guys ever fight? Physically?

Well, like, crazy, crazy fights? No. I mean, I had, like, some crazy outburst when I was in my 20s, for sure. But no, we have not fought in a long time like that. Okay. I've been trained. I've been domesticated by therapists, a team. A therapist of our team.

Speaking of men, I saw this video from this man who's like a therapist and he had and he's raising like three sons. And this woman asked, do you think that men should always pay for the meal? And I in my head, I'm like, ew, no, that's ridiculous. It's about equality. And like the man answered with the most brilliant, truthful response that you cannot deny. He goes, well, I always teach my sons that even. if you have less money than any woman, speaking in like a hetero relationship, you are paying

for their meals no matter what. And she goes, why? He said, it is the bare minimum that you could do because in any relationship, even if you are just having sex with that person, sex is way riskier for women than it is men, emotionally, physically, disease-wise. And men will always, always, always benefit more from a relationship with a woman than a woman will. It's not about like some old-timey values of like men have to pay for everything. No, it's like you literally must pay in some way because the way that you benefit from being in a relationship with women is astronomic. It's always lopsided.

You should send that to the guy who buys your macha. You're like, where are you at? Where you are? I don't agree with a ton of Jordan Peterson. But he does in his own, like, you know, slightly misogynistic way say that, you know, men have to rise up because the cost to our bodies to be mothers, the cost to our bodies, just to be like just women. It's about understanding and, like, seeing and acknowledging that us as women go through so much more on a daily basis to our bodies, to our minds, like any type of relationship that we're in, we're doing so much emotional labor. so just like rise up in in every way but there is also that theory that men like you said benefit they have the marriage glow up and the women have the marriage glow down it's not the same for us we get uglier sadder angrier autoimmune sometimes fatter yeah last night or what was it two nights ago when dave was saying that um oh yeah the women who are children of divorce are more likely to get a divorce than the the sons.

35% more or 30% more. Like daughters of divorce are 60% more likely to get a divorce whereas the male counterpart is only like 30% more likely. Oh really? And I was thinking, I was like that might just be

because more women want divorces. Like women aren't women, I feel like now that we're adults learning like women are more likely the one that asks for the divorce. Yeah, I think like after COVID, after the families were forced to like hunker down and really spend time

together I think it was like something really lopsided like 90% of the divorces filed that year were from women whoa being like I don't I don't need a fifth baby or like when when you're home there's not this balance like when you're home I'm still doing uh-huh everything yeah then there's extra labor for them I mean I've been divorced twice and I can say that the reason I mean my mom was divorce is it's truly it's it's always just been an option like for me I in my mind mentally a divorce is always an option yeah because your mom is divorced no and they didn't raise me religiously and like I didn't really have a concept of marriage I didn't really and that's probably my bad that's probably my it's so cute no two divorces such a hot girl move but I just I really was like

I'm unhappy and I'm more miserable in this relationship why would I stay in it goodbye and it didn't there Of course, it was painful and awful, but, like, I didn't think about my parents in a guilty way or anything like that. Right, or, like, what they would think. I think that is the better alternative, though, to know that it is always there because it protects the women. We come from a country where divorce is still not fully accepted or legal. And even if you were to prove in court that you are in an abusive relationship, that your husband was raping you, that you were getting beaten every day. You still could not, as a woman, like, file for divorce. There is no divorce, right?

Because it is a very, it is a government, like, very much, like, influenced by religion in the Catholic Church. So family values and, like, the idea of family is, holds much more water than the safety of a woman. Or the optics of a family is more important than the safety of a woman, which really sucks. And there are a lot of people, like, fighting for, to change it. Where is it now, Jules? It's still not legal, right? To divorce? Unless you're like really, really rich.

Then you can just get an annulment. But you need a lot of money. But the men can divorce, right? No, they can get annulled if they're rich. Like, you need a lot of money. You need a lot of money. And it sucks. So I like that option of being like, you know what?

That's always on the table if this shit isn't serving me anymore. Yeah. And why the fuck do people gawk at divorces? It's like, it's a breakup. Who cares? It's just a breakup. So I haven't been feeling, well, like, a just. adjusting medication and stuff, and I've just been feeling sick.

You know, so I'm just off my game in every element area of my life. And so, you know, the other day, like, Dave came down to Cirrus to tuck me in. That's so cute. I love that. And he was like, do you still love me? And I was like, Dave. And I was like, you know what? It's so funny you ask that because I was just thinking about literally like an hour before I was thinking about,

if Dave ever tried to break up with me I think I would have to kill him and like I think like I don't I wouldn't want to do that because like then where does that leave Ace and donut but and so I told it I was like I was just thinking that and he's like oh okay I feel so much better

I love that because there are like these two narratives that you guys are having in your mind that like are that's so funny R asks me all the time and you still love me that's not the conversation I had the other day what do you mean? What do you mean? What? I've just been so like exhausted. That's fair. And like it's just I haven't slept for more than three hours at a time for the last year. And so my brain is mush. My brain is jumbled. So funny because it works 70 times better than all of ours. And I'm a little touched out. I'm a little bit like I with an unprompted I was like, you know, I'm really sorry but like I really have like zero to give to the relationship at the moment. Like that's just the truth.

And I don't want you. It's not a you thing. It's literally like I'm, I feel like, you're depleted. I'm depleted. I have like nothing. And, oh, he's just, thank God for a securely attached man. And you are securely attached. I was just going to say because you said that.

You weren't scared to say that. Right. He was just like, duh, bitch. He was, I thought for sure that maybe, because of my previous, like, relationship experience that he would be like, what do you mean? You have nothing. probably thought, oh, we're going to break up. He was just like, no shit, lady. I see you every day. You're like, I'm like, I feel sorry for you. Like, I'm trying my best. I'm bitty you. And he was

like, no, no, it's okay. Like that it's, you have nothing to give, but it's not forever. It's just a season. Yeah. And I was like, oh, thank you. I'm really glad that you're sharing that because I do feel like I'm going through that too right now. And it's really taking a hit to myself a seam because a big part of my self-esteem is like the things that I'm able to do for my family and like my loved ones and like a big part of that is like Jenna knows like I love cooking for you and Dave especially Dave but honestly especially you too like I love cooking for you guys she really like lets you know when she likes something and it is a thrill isn't it I made her the worst most dried up piece of tuna and she was like this is the best fish I've ever had I was talking about her

for a long time. It was like a tuna steak and it was so good. But I haven't been able to be cooking for you guys lately and it's like, oh, that like sits with me and haunts me. Like I'm like, yeah, you said the other day. Yeah. You were like, oh, I feel like I'm not like being a partner to Dave. I'm not doing anything. And it's like, you are. You're there. So I don't know. I just, I'm like grateful to hear you share that feeling too because I like, like I want to almost like normalize just for myself. Like sometimes I can't be my fullest self. and like that's okay, I will be soon, you know? I think as long as it's communicated,

if I'm just stonewalling my partner and if I'm just being a like raging cunt all day and I'm not having moments of like apology and like I always apologize. I'm always like fuck, like that wasn't my, I wasn't operating from my higher self, as my therapist would say. And as long as, you know, I am like checking myself too.

Like I can't get away with murder, right? Like I can't get away with just shit. behavior like there has to be like constant like reassurance and conversation and be like I feel like I'm out of my mind I am exhausted like I don't like this version of myself I'm really sorry and if you have that it's okay yeah and you're fully acknowledging it so the other person doesn't feel like am I is this just how they act are they not noticing this I think that the best is when you have a partner like both of yours and ours the same way like when I was um going through all of my health stuff after vaccination and COVID and all of that for like two and a half years,

I wasn't my best self. Two and a half years, I was like, who would want to be with me? Yeah. And he was there all the time. And I just kept, I kept having those thoughts of like, I'm not even fun to be around. You're like, I have no value. I'm crying all the time. I don't want to go do things. I have nothing to give. This is bad. But when you have a relationship that's a and they know you're not I don't want to say better self but they know the person that you intend to be and want to be and have been they have that understanding I mean I would like sob in therapy sessions and be like I just like I don't know who would want to be with me this doesn't make sense and he just kept saying like this is just a wave this happens you're going to get through this

you're going to get out of this but when when it was two years I was like I don't know maybe this is me. And so to have a partner, I think, like you guys were saying, who like, yeah, bitch, who just like doesn't make it a big deal and is like, yeah, that makes sense. This is normal. You can feel, you don't feel like you're not offering anything. Jules, have you ever had this experience where you're not your best self? Oh yeah. Like with my ex, he was like really patient with me. Like I can be so like mean and bitchy to people that I love. Yeah. Can I get that in writing? Like in Let's rewind and I need it. Sign and acknowledged.

Like in college, I was just so stressed. Like, I was, I hated it. And like him, I lashed out on him. But then obviously I say sorry. And then he's always like understanding. He's like, it's fine. Like, I get you. I understand what you're going.

So it's like, it's okay. How are you feeling about like your breakup? We haven't like talked about that in a while. Um. I'm still like Trying not to think about it Yeah I don't I don't know That's how I cope I guess

Yeah And do you ever actually process it though I don't know because last night I had like big emotions I wanted to cut my hair again at the I was just Look listen I support the big emotions

I support talking about big emotions Feeling them lashing out I have A hair care brand that is launching in a very important retailer soon and if you fucking cut your hair you fucking cut your hair and I no longer have

listen I currently have postpartum hair loss and I don't have any backup strands and I accidentally cut my hair and you cut your hair oh I still have you little lady but Jules hair is like I've never looked at someone's hair and been like that is the best hair Because I really feel like I have the best hair

But you know She has the best hair Have the best hair Thanks I've been looking at this whole It's like what? It's so good So think of the family jewels

Yeah I know I know that's why I stopped And then by the way Meg My Soul Cycle instructor Who had mermaid hair Who was my Ebb hair model Also cut her hair

She cut it The day I visited her And it's beautiful Short hair's beautiful Love it all I actually think Jenna is a good I think short hair is a good hair model too No?

Because you're like, you look like a surfer dude And it fits the brand But Ati Jenna with short hair is always like better Like you're the hottest short hair That's because you like lesbians I miss my long hair so much Like so I much I do think she's right though

I feel like you look like cuter and more Frankly, yeah That's really nice to hear because I I cut it four years ago because I was in a similar feeling that you had and I haven't stopped missing it like I always I look back because I have wave and like curl to my hair

but not if it's short see how yours like the wave starts down here I saw pictures of you with long hair but I think short hair Yeah I do want to touch on this just because I touched on it on a TikTok that I didn't realize would become a full out fight

between people and that is my whole whole life growing up in the Philippines I um the idea all the hot girls and the baddies would show up to work to school with wet hair and not just wet hair with the scent of their whatever fresh shampoo they had just put in their head that morning and it was such like it was a vibe like it was an aesthetic herbal essence palm olive in philippines we had cream silk and it was just the vibe and jules can attest to this you went to school and you were like you were the hot girl with, and they would always say, oh, what shampoo are you wearing?

What? Yeah. What is the fucking red carpet for shampoo? Yes, yes, yes. And then when I came to America, I would show up to things to meetings with wet hair, show up to school with wet hair, and the opposite would happen. Yeah, did you just rush out? Yeah, did you just rush out?

Were you lazy? Did you run out of time? This is unprofessional. And it never occurred to me that water drying on my head was such a big issue for employers or to give off the optics of like, oh, I, like, I'm here and I'm a professional. Like, why the fuck does it matter if my hair is wet or not? Like, why the fuck does it actually matter? Objectively, tell me.

I love this take. I love anything that's, like, lazy-ish, but hot, I love. And, like, if I did wash my hair often, I would love to go out with wet hair. I think that sounds so hot to me. It's to me, it's like the hair equivalent of, like, wearing your boyfriend's oversized t-shirt with nothing under it's just like so like oh do I accidentally look like sexy I think it's really hot and I also think though it is worth pointing out that it is a privilege because some people can't just like air dry their hair because then yes they won't like how it looks absolutely that I get if it's not something

you know that looks aesthetically good for you and you feel like you have to hair dry great you air dry your hair all the time and I just go yeah I remember when you used to come to this studio and I was like this bitch wait do you guys not air dry your hair I can't air dry my hair anymore because it's short and it will look So what do you blow dry it? Yeah, I have to blow dry it The last podcast we did

It was air dried when it was like It looked the same It looked better It looked absolutely different It is I do understand if it's just something That doesn't look good Like no one's forcing you to walk out with wet hair However, I don't feel as though

I should be called unprofessional or lazy When I show up to wet hair Because I think that the effort is in the shower I think that Someone made that up. You should be so lucky that I thought this day important enough that I stepped into a shower and got fresh for you. That's so hot. When I posted this TikTok, that morning, my sister was like, oh, it just happened to me today.

Like, I walked in and someone was like, oh, your hair is still wet, like, as in, like, a negative way. Dude, also, it's, I feel like it's looking racist. I kind of think, too. Because some people's hair, based off the texture they have, takes a whole day to take. Exactly. Exactly. My hair used to be wet the next morning still. If you have a lot of texture in your hair, a lot of big curls, a lot of just, even like just generally thicker hair, it takes her hair a whole day to dry. Now think about blow drying. Do I have a fucking hour to blow dry my hair when I could be using that time to sleep in or dissociate with my thumb up my ass? I would rather do that. Why on earth would I sit there and just, and by the way, it's so damaging to your hair. I think so too. Remember when you got your first job and that paycheck and you were just counting down the hours?

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Basically, I'm going to put up an image from the 90s. I'm not going to know anything. I'll try. No, I believe in you. Yeah, I believe in you. You have to. You're a delineal.

Come on. Tap into your millennial. I guess. You can get... When were you born in 2001? Oh, my God. She wasn't even a... sperm in the 90s.

You weren't even jizz, bro. Uh-huh. Okay, so we can do the first one. Do you know what that is? Okay, I'll give you a clue. Yeah, give me hints. Like, close. Bill Clinton.

These are too big of hints. Do you remember who... How about, like, one word hints? Okay, blow job. No. That's not, that's not Marilyn Monroe. That's not Mary Monroe. Is it?

Is it the first lady then? Oh my gosh, please keep going. Please keep going. Give me your best guesses. I just know it's not Marilyn Monroe. Okay, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it is not Marilyn Monroe. Is it the first lady then? No, it's not the first.

Who do you think that as the first lady? I don't know. Something Clinton. For Asians, honestly, white people are hard. I will give her that. It's a little bit of a tricky game. Is it the assistant? then? Okay. I don't know the name though.

Yes, yes. Is he, is she the one that snitched? Eventually. I don't know. But it sounds... Ma... Monika. Uh-huh. Louansky. Yay! We'll give her that point.

Just because she said Marilyn Monroe. Okay. Now that's a clip. Okay, so for hints, it's, let's just do one word. You're not playing only Jules. Unless you need... Okay, next. Okay, what is that, Jules?

Oh my God. That's kind of a... Yeah, that's a bad... I don't like that one. If you know what it is, you know what it is. Yeah, that's true. It's like the pet thing, right? Yes, yes.

It starts with a letter T. But that's not that one. Oh, that's not that one? What do you think it is? I forgot the word. But we'll explain what it is. I know it's like you take care of this, like, pet thing. Is it the one that ties on the N?

No. First letter. What's the first? G. Oh. I don't know this one. Yeah, you do. It's a gigapet.

Oh, I don't know that one. Gigapet, nanopet, and Tomogachi. We only had Tomoguchi. We never call them gigapets. Sorry. Oh, interesting. Okay, are we ready? Yes, yes.

Jules, who is that? Who is that? RIP. He has a brother. Oh, brother of Joaquin Phoenix? No. Oh, he thought that's River Phoenix. Yeah.

He has a brother who's in a, who was in a boy band. Big boy band in the late 90s. Is it the bye, bye, bye, bye. It's one of that. The other one. So that boy band, the other boy band, that's just a thing. Wait, well, who's bye, bye, by, bye? Insync.

Is it with Justin Timberley? That's insane. That's in sync. I don't know. Who could this be? I don't know. Who could this be? Who is he?

Erin Carter. Nick Carter from the Backstreet Boys. Okay, next. Who is that? Diana. What do you know about her? What do you know about her? Her husband cheated on her with the ugly girl.

Camilla. Camilla. Because she's also now the queen. And then, yeah. The ugly girl is the queen. Not queen? Yeah, I mean, she is because the queen. Yeah, she died from a car accident.

But then allegedly it's because of the family. Do you know the conspiracy theory? And do you know who her kids are? Char, no, Henry Charles Harry, but the, with Megan. Yeah, Megan Harry, yeah. Who is that? Oh, yeah.

Oh, I forget his name. I know he's from the, um, that movie. Which one? Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Yes. I just don't know the names, guys. I don't know.

I know. I'm so bad at names. He's making a comeback. Okay, give a hint. First letter. J. J. J.

J. Josh Hartnett Jenna The game is not for you She wasn't going to guess it We have to you're still You're not a participant in the game

I'm bad at these things too Okay next This is actually for Esther because Esther I know who that is already with the hair I saw the hair Esther I know now Do you know what it is?

Peter Pan What do you mean by that Like from Hook? Yeah, the live action, because everyone said that Peter Pan was so hot. The live action didn't exist then. But I don't know. I think it was, that was a... That guy.

So you don't think... That looks like Kristen Whig. You know what? I see it, Joe. See? I'm telling you guys, I guess I have to reiterate it. For us Asians, the whites are a little hard to decipher. Who is it?

They look identical to you. Yeah. Have you seen the movie Casper? Oh, yeah. I've seen it. Yeah, that's Devon Sal. Devin Sawa, the one I was talking about how my hair looked like before. Oh, I know what it is already.

I don't. Don't say, it's not for you. This is more just like, what is this? What, like, app was that the logo for? That's a hard one. I'll give you the description on what it did. It has to do with music. Is it like MP3?

Yes. That's all I know. Back in the day, we had to steal and download music. I just know MP3 MP4 Okay Well I mean it's essentially It's the Napster

But it was in Napster Not the 90s I thought it was 2000s Oh shit Because I was in college Really? Yeah I feel like I was in junior high When I was in high school

Yeah I just didn't have a computer Because it was the whole computer Yeah but it was 2000s when we were in junior high What 90s? Okay Close enough

Close enough Some people say that the The decade starts the year before So you could already That's like people often say that. Do we have time for one thing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Something happened to me this week. I told you. And I just need to know from all y'all and people out there if this is, if this has ever happened to you. So I rarely used my vibrator. I got it like five years ago. And because I rarely use it, I've used it like six times, the battery was going. going out. So I was like really just trying to orgasm and using it like it would turn on for three seconds and then turn off.

Stop being all fucking. Keep it together. Yeah. Like poker face. Hmm. Hmm. You know, this is funny because when I told her earlier in the week, she was like, yeah, whatever, who cares? And now it's like nasty. Make it stop. Okay. But this is important. What I'm saying is important to what happened. this part of the story is pertinent. So by nature, I was like turning it on for three seconds and turning off, turn it out for three seconds, just like trying to make it happen fast, okay?

I orgasm. What? What do you mean? I go deaf for about a minute and a half. Yeah. And I've had ear problems before and it didn't sound like what had happened. And I just go, okay, okay, I don't know what's happening, but all right, everything's going be okay and I'm just like talking to myself I drink water I sit back down I go all right well like

blood was rushing in different areas so then I get to shut your fucking face up you dumb bitch so then I go to also what you're doing is sexist I go and I look it up online and there's this whole like Reddit feed of people talking about how they go deaf after they come women has this happened to any of you? Yeah. This was so scary. Well, for one, you probably blew a couple baskets, but it must have been

a good one. Well, what they were saying was that if you are like, if it happens too fast, if there's not, which is like ever, all the women on there. Yeah. Just from start to finish is happens too fast. And the women were saying like, yeah, if I'm just masturbating and I'm not

actually having sex. And I was obviously trying to go fast when the battery was running out. That is so telling. because it basically is all to say that, like, you come harder when it's by yourself. You go deaf when you fuck yourself. But when someone else fucks you, it's like, eh, my ears are intact. No gasket's blonde. And they were saying, like, if you orgasm and then you, like, try to orgasm again,

but, like, using a vibrator or masturbating with yourself, that it's happened and it happens to women. And it's, like, the surge of hormones, but also that your blood pressure or the blood going in the lower half of your... body so quickly. You also, I feel like a lot of, especially when you're fighting, fighting to come. That's what it was. It is very like head heavy.

I was like, you're kind of like holding your breath, you know. Can I share? Can I share something too? Yeah, yeah, share. No, like this was when we were living at Tito Bobby's like two years ago at the, I think you, I think you bought like a vibrator to flower vibrator. Okay, I'm not a vibes girl. Yeah. It might have been Bobby's.

Because he used his vibrators to On his skin It was unopened And then it got delivered I opened oh it's a flower vibrator It wasn't mine Oh but then I waited I waited three weeks

And then I stole it Oh okay But then I always thought it was yours So I was like No You stole it from Bobby And it's a great That kind of thievery works

Because I promise you he doesn't remember He ordered it Yeah Oh my God that is so And did you use it Yeah, that's why I was... Yeah, all right, Jill's. No, no, no.

I like that kind of theft. All good. Yeah, that's great. All is fair and love and come, baby. This is my first vibrator I've ever bought was like from five years ago. And it has this like, it has like 20 different vibration settings, but it has like the suction on it too. Shit's scary. Yeah.

Yeah. I, you know, I hate how not progressive I am in the contraptions department. I'm just not. I tried. Like, one, I had a meltdown one time. I'm like, I want to be that girl. So then I went to a store and I bought like a ton and maybe like there was one occasion where I was like, okay. Hey, I just, that's not for me.

I'm an old school. You just raw dog at every time? What do you mean by raw dog? Do I fist myself, Stella? Well, just hand only. Yeah. Hand is the best. Look at her hands.

Look at my hands. Those were my hands. I need a hand and like a hump. Oh, you like to hump things as well. Yeah, I don't But that's why the vibrator is also like It feels confusing the vibrator You're like a boy dog

You like to hum? Jules, can you name all of the spice girls? No, I just know Victoria Oh, you only know Posh That's all Do I look like? I'm not good with names I'm so bad

Oh yeah, we'll name all of Black Pink Oh well that's different Name all of One Direction That's different It's not like I'm like in love with them And like want to know them I just know a couple songs If you want to be my lover

I iconic That song I learn from Chicken Little What is Chicken Little? That's embarrassing for us The movie Yeah chicken little is cute At there is that Peter Pan That was cute

Thanks Jules for sharing that you still Bobby's vibrator That is so great So you like the vibrator then Yeah because I heard on TikTok that the flower vibrator is so good. And then you were like, because I bought it? I wish. Yeah.

I wish I, you know, I was hip to that shit. I'm trying to get into vibrators and then I went deaf. So it's like I feel scared now. It's just too high powered for me. I like to keep my threshold very low so that when a man sucks in bed, he can still get me to come. Yeah, that's true. It's like if a vibrator is so effective and if a tool is so effective at making me come, my threshold is so high. So therefore he would have to work so fucking hard.

No, it's true. Your nerves. I mean, it's the same thing when men masturbate with like a grip that's super, super tight. It's true. And then they have sex or they get head and it's not like. The same. Yeah. Yeah.

It's kind of like a motorboat for you. Like you explain. You prefer like a. That's something else. It's a slower kind of then you get there and or like a canoe rather than like a speed. A canoe. I think what it is, what it comes. down to is that um and hate to flex on you bitches but it oh i hate this i know you're

sure i think i'm the same i just come so easily me too i never want to lose that yeah i it's like it's never been a problem for me i like breeze will get me there so i never want to lose that ability i agree yeah sometimes i'm like you don't have to you really have to do a lot less i make men feel amazing like i need i really wanted to be that girl who It was, yeah, I, let's give it a try. My eye twitch, you saw that? That was me coming. You know, I understand you so much better now.

Why? Since what? Becoming a mom. Oh. There is something that happens, that happened in my body that where, like, I am like, I'm talking about sex. Is that okay? It's weird, right?

Okay, but Esther was like that before she became a mom. Yeah. But I wasn't, I wasn't. I always was with you. You were allowed to talk about your sex life or anything in just however you wanted. But as soon as I like either. Because me and Kalala are breastfeeding. What is happening?

Me and Kalala are so cool when we talk about it. Yeah, you're just not. You sound cool. We're just really, really cool. Okay. I'm going to return to you. Your thong has dried, madam. Why did you even bring that?

I have so many things in your bag at the... Because I have to be prepared for all the things I'm going to do. Where are you going for what to do a lap dance? That is from tanning Outside Oh, because you like to tan your cheeks Yeah Your booty cheeks

That's fair That's a good answer You have the baked good thing Explain it Well this was because I wanted to make Cornbread this week And it got lost in my And you're not worried that

That cornbread mix might get into here And cause a pH It's closed And it's closed And it's like I'm only wearing that If I'm going into a pool okay and so it's all it's getting out of there and wet because you could accidentally make some not fun batter have some fucking yeast up in this oven yeah well well okay but I did bring that thank you

it is sold out it is sold out yeah and I'm panicking you better figure that out because I've got that much left I'm trying to figure it out for myself too lady wait really yeah no it's sold out and I I know that I am the founder of the brand, but we are scrambling to get a lot more made, and it's not coming fast enough, and I am panicking. Really? I'm panicking. It's the only thing that doesn't cause me to, like, break out, because I have eczema. It's the only thing that, honestly, I am so. People will wait.

I know, but it's really the only thing that doesn't fuck my skin up or my hair. People wait for my deodorant for, like, months because I'm the only one making. it. I think that when they trust it, like they trust Ebb, they're going to wait. Even if they have to buy something else in the interim, they will come back to you. So if you guys are panicking over Ebb, so am I, okay, and my whole family. Chester, are you panicking over Ebb? Jules washes my dogs with Ebb. Really? Wait, really?

Mm-hmm. And they smell so good after. We wash donut. Yeah, I will. Will you wash Esther? I really do love getting my hair washed by someone else. that's really important can ebb open like a shampoo center gosh yes yes

a wash and dry all you do is like wash with it that's all I want in love no there's no dry you wash and you leave with it wet no dry no dry no heat just air dry and take however long you want to air dry yep no pressure and you go to work

you go to all your appointments you guys thank you for being here I'm going on tour and you can get tickets at pretty little BabyTor.com. I'm coming to Denver, Portland, Seattle, Olympia, New York, Philly, Boston. I think that's about it.

There might be more. Madison, Wisconsin. So you can get tickets at Pretty Little BabyTor.com. I can't wait for you guys to see all my new material. Go to Eb Ocean Club. Even though we are sold out of shampoo, we still have a wait list. Some of the detangler spray left. So grab that before it's all gone because it's going.

Go to buy tiajena.com and get your natural deodorant. What you got, Jules? Jules is selling. Are you selling those? Tattoos. Oh, okay. It's okay if you're selling speakers to pay rent. It's all right.

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I'm going to be able to be.