Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Trash Tuesday: Mr. Beast Style w/ Dax Flame
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Kalyla was saying that I did such a bad job of meeting you
that maybe you left.
No, no.
Why do you do an elbow instead of a handshake?
Just jams?
I'm having issue.
I'm having a psychotic break.
Well, that is so much that you just put on him.
I actually don't know what's going on with my brain
and my body parts.
And so like, I'm just kind of like flying by the seat of my pants I just put on him. I actually don't know what's going on with my brain and my body parts.
And so like, I'm just kind of like flying
by the seat of my pants.
And I don't know why the elbow seemed right.
Do you normally do elbow?
Sometimes.
Cool.
You ever heard the expression,
if you ask someone what time it is,
and then they tell you how to build a clock.
It's like when you talk to a crazy person
and you just wanted to know like,
oh, do you, are you afraid of germs?
And then they tell you I'm having a psychotic break.
Oh, right, right.
I thought this was I thought what you were going to say is like, teach a man out of fish
and he'll have food forever type of but that's not what you were saying.
Oh, no, I wasn't saying that you're saying I'm having a okay.
Sorry.
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Today, welcome to Trash Tuesday.
We have a guest that we're very excited to have.
He is very funny and he's a curious person.
And I mean that in a lot of ways.
Please welcome Dax Flame.
Thanks for having me.
My first impression is your name,
and maybe this is part of it, but it doesn't fit you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, it's a stage name that I just started calling myself
when I was a teenager, and then since I got popular on the internet
when I was a teenager, I just stuck with it forever.
And now it just feels like it fits me
because it's what I've gone by forever.
But if I were coming up with a stage name now,
maybe I would have just chosen something different,
but it's just what I've stuck with, yeah.
Are you, is it ironic when you made it?
Was it ironic or did it fit you more when you were a teen? It was just something I thought sounded cool. Oh, yeah. Are you, is it ironic when you made it? Was it ironic or did it fit you more when you were a teen?
It was just something I thought sounded cool.
Oh, okay.
I guess that, yeah, the origin story of it
coming from being a teenage boy makes sense.
Yeah, I think the flame part of it sounds, yeah, yeah,
just, all right, I don't know.
Yeah, because I've heard your name over the years,
but I never knew who you were,
and I always just assumed you were someone
that was like, blah, you know, setting fires.
Did you ever think of having a stage name?
I think Little Esther is kind of a stage name.
Oh, that is, you're right.
You were Little Esther for a long time.
This morning though, I've been getting a bunch of just,
hi, just random texts, hi.
Oh, me too, hello.
Yeah, and I know it's usually,
there's a sentence that follows where you could be like,
okay, this is a scam or this is like a-
Right, they're like, I saw your resume,
it looks really good.
That I've been getting to as well, yeah.
I'm like, trust me, my resume sucks,
no one would say that.
But do you get those scammed phishing texts?
Yeah, we have some opportunity for you
in that kind of thing.
Yeah.
Like a recruiter, a job recruiter.
Yeah.
Or it's like lonely women.
Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. Yes.
I do feel very vulnerable to those texts.
What do you wanna say?
I don't know, like I just think if this was like
15 years ago, if I was a teenager, like I would be, you know that time in your life where you're just sort of
waiting for someone to text you, hi?
And you don't know who they are?
Do you see how, you know when I'll see how those texts
work on people?
Dax?
Yeah.
You know, when I think about this, yes,
maybe like my stepdad who's like in the seventies.
Yeah.
Would be susceptible to something like this, yes.
Okay, you guys are throwing me under the bus.
It's okay.
Do you, are you, you're not lonely?
Oh, yeah, I get lonely sometimes, yeah.
Yeah.
When do you get lonely?
Are you lonely now?
No.
Kaila said that you're dating a famous actress.
Do you know her name?
I do. Do you want to share? I do, do you wanna share?
You can share first.
You share first.
Maybe I shouldn't talk about it publicly.
Well, haven't you already?
Yeah, but now I've maybe moving forward,
I shouldn't, so you could share it if you'd like.
Let's talk about the movie she's done, how about that?
Let's work around the name.
Beauty and the Beast.
Okay, Harry Potter. Harry Potter? Let's talk about the movie she's done. How about that? Let's work around the name. Beauty and the Beast. Okay.
Harry Potter.
Harry Potter?
Oh.
Lindsay Lohan played her on SNL.
It is a little sad that when you say-
It's Daniel Radcliffe.
When you say Harry Potter,
there's only one girl that you can think of, right?
That's not true.
There's Ginny.
Okay.
Ginny's in Harry Potter.
Last week at one of my standup shows,
sometimes at the end of my set I'll be like,
any questions?
Cause I'm like, oh maybe that'll lead to a new topic
to talk about on stage.
It's just a lazy way of writing.
But someone was like, have you worn your sorting hat?
And I was like, that is the rudest thing.
Like this person just assumed I love Harry Potter
and it just felt like embarrassing, I don't know.
Do you not like Harry Potter?
Do you guys like Harry Potter?
I do, do you?
You have to.
I read all the books as an adult.
Like, yeah, so I liked it. But that was maybe 10 years ago.
But yeah, they're really good.
You've been an adult for 10 years?
I'm 33, yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
Do we not wanna say her name still?
Why are you so private about it?
No, I was just joking.
Emma Watson.
Yeah, yeah, I was just joking.
About?
Oh, not- Like, about, I was just joking. About? Oh, not-
Like about, I was trying to play into it
as if like I'm not supposed to talk about it.
But you're dating her.
Yeah.
Well, not really.
Oh.
No, that was just whenever I went on Bad Friends, Andrew, well y'all are friends, right?
With the bad friends, yeah.
Andrew, like I said, you're dating a celebrity and then I just said the first one I thought
of.
But yeah, they're really funny.
What do you think of Bobby?
He's really funny.
Yeah. He's really funny. Yeah, he's um, they're both super good at improvising and
Yeah
Last night I was laying in bed and they had this breakthrough thought and it applies to female friendships
So chime in as accordingly
You know how there's this concept in female friendships
where one friend is like,
I'm the kind of friend who's gonna tell it like it is.
I'm not gonna hold back.
I'm gonna tell you how I really feel.
Like, I'm gonna be honest.
Everyone feels familiar with that?
Just from hearing about it.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
I've always been like, that's gonna be me.
I wanna be honest with my friends.
That's a good thing.
But then I'm thinking, wait a second,
is that a good thing?
What if that's just a version of judging?
I think it is.
I think that sometimes people who have to declare
that they're a truth teller
or have to declare that they're the honest one
are doing it, it's like a way to guise their own cruelty.
Oh, whoa.
I think people who say, I tell it how it is,
just want an excuse to be cruel and judgmental.
What do you think?
Wait, could you say, could you say it again?
Yeah, like, and this could be any friendship, so I'll take gender out of it.
Let's say you're in a relationship with Emma Watson, and you're like, Emma is being mean to me,
and, but I love her so I'm staying.
And then your friend is like, I'm going to be honest with you, she's mean to you, you need to leave her.
Is that good?
Because they're being, oh no, that can't be good.
There's a ghost.
Oh my God.
Is that good?
Because they're being honest?
Or is it that they're just being forceful
and instead they should say something like,
oh, that's interesting that she's mean to you,
how does that make you feel?
And the other option was that they say,
like break up?
Yeah, they tell you what to do.
They put their finger in your face.
What's my preference?
Yeah.
Maybe not telling me what to do.
Would you consider that dishonest?
Maybe you can like tell someone what you think they should do,
but don't tell them they have to do that
A good example of this is like would you be mad if someone said your breath stink or like oh?
That would be helpful
But I think it depends who right?
Yeah, who and how and how if someone said it in the front of other people
Maybe not so. Yeah.
Yeah.
Pull me aside.
Yeah.
Yeah, have that be a one-on-one.
I know that probably is not gonna be pleasant for you, but.
Yeah, a slip of breath mint here.
Breath mints don't help.
They make it worse.
They really do.
Sugar makes breath worse.
How's your breath?
I brushed my teeth this morning morning so it should be good.
But yeah, I have no sense of smell. So I lost it a couple years ago when I got COVID and it just
hasn't returned. Wait, what? Can you taste? Yes, I can taste perfectly. Do you miss smelling? Yeah.
Yeah. Really? What do you miss the smell of? Nothing in particular, just people say that smell is connected to memory.
So it'd be nice to have that aspect back.
I feel the same way about music too.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love music.
Whenever I'm in a bad or sad mood,
like I feel like if I put on music
from when I was in high school,
Okay.
It's helpful.
How old are you?
I'm 30. I just turned 37.
Okay. Cool. I cannot believe it. are you? I'm 30. I just turned 37. Okay, cool.
I cannot believe it.
When you started to say 30, I thought you were going to say 31.
Thank you.
Well, maybe I shouldn't say thank you.
Okay.
Yeah, you look young.
On the way here, I listened to something from high school, Tragic Kingdom.
Well, no, middle school for me.
The whole album and then returned to Saturn right after. I only know that because that was like
when my older sister had.
Right. And there's a song there that I think people
didn't maybe listen to what she was saying so much.
I cried on the way here.
Okay.
I'm not sure that's so important.
I have to admit, I was a child when I listened to that album
and I only listened to Don't Speak and Just a Girl.
Yeah, that's on, um...
And Spider-Webs.
Yeah.
Okay, I know those ones.
What is your high school music?
I think I like classic rock.
Specifically who?
Um, the first one that came to mind is Tom Petty.
Love Tom Petty.
And just other things like that.
How did you get into that? Were your parents into it?
Yeah.
Where are you from?
He's from Dallas.
Yeah.
Oh, have you been in love?
Yeah, and then that was in LA.
I dated someone in LA and then we broke up
maybe seven years ago or eight years ago.
I can't remember exactly.
How long did it last?
Maybe one year.
Is it making you uncomfortable
that we're asking you questions about yourself?
No.
Oh, good.
I'm always just like a little nervous on a podcast,
especially if I, like, I feel less nervous
if I come back on a podcast.
Right, it's a first time situation.
Yeah.
Yeah, I totally get that.
Because I like to just try to see
like what kind of vibe the podcast is,
like what I should be talking about exactly
Yeah, you can't go wrong here
So you and then you dated Bobby, right?
Can you believe that ten years a decade oh wow awesome yeah ten years ago or for ten years
So for ten years cool and we've been broken up 40 years for ten for ten for ten years. Cool. And we've been broken up for- 40 years? For 10.
For 10 years would be 40 years.
You're doing a lot of multiplication.
No, I'm not.
I'm only doing one multiplication.
Four different- For a decade.
Spans of 10 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's with me.
We've been broken up for three and a half now.
Maybe four.
So 14 years?
Yeah.
Three times four, four times three and a half.
Yeah.
But it was, it was a very, very difficult breakup.
Okay.
It's been years since we broken up.
It's still, it still has its moments of being difficult.
Cause y'all do, um, your podcast Tiger Belly together?
We do.
Cool.
Because y'all do your podcast Tiger Belly together? We do.
Cool.
And I still very much love him dearly, dearly, dearly.
And is Jules related to you?
She's my niece.
Did you meet her?
Yeah, she's so nice.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, she's the best.
Because when I went on Bad Friends, I think maybe two of the times she was there.
And yeah, she's really nice.
Maybe you should ask us questions.
Okay, so what's your favorite thing to talk about?
That's actually a really good question.
What's yours?
I don't know.
So what did you do this morning before you came here?
Oh I'll tell you. I made salmon rice. Okay.
And I ate it with seaweed, with nori.
For breakfast?
For breakfast.
Cool.
And then I took a shower and my hair is still wet and I drove to work.
Cool.
Listen to Tragic Kingdom in the rain. Esther?
I brushed my teeth and I ate half of a protein bar.
Before or after you brushed your teeth?
After.
Okay.
What would you have done?
After.
Yeah, okay, good.
I think it's weird when people eat before they brush their teeth in the morning.
Really?
No, no, that's what I do.
Eat?
I eat and then I brush my teeth.
Wait, really?
I agree, I'm with you.
What?
So that you don't have the taste of toothpaste in whatever you're...
Exactly. Because the taste of toothpaste gets into the food.
I think it warps the flavor of the food.
And you clean off whatever food you just had.
Mm-hmm.
If there's any dentists in the audience compliment, I mean comment, what you would...
What's the right way to do it?
Or they would probably just say do it both times.
Maybe not.
Maybe not because I think you're onto something
about the flavor of your breakfast,
tasting like your breakfast versus whatever minty thing,
whatever minty residue from the toothpaste.
I'm wildly disturbed by this because maybe,
but you know what, maybe it's just me,
maybe I'm the one that wakes up
with like a really gross taste in my mouth
and you guys don't, but I cannot imagine like
moving any steps throughout my day
without brushing my teeth of being the first thing.
I scrape my tongue, I brush my teeth, like,
is there something, what do I have going on
that you guys don't?
I think it's because I eat soon after I wake up.
I drink something and then I eat something
because I don't like to eat after I shower.
For example, the last thing I have to do at night
is shower before I go to bed.
I cannot shower at 5 p.m. and then have a dinner
or else I feel disgusting.
I feel like there's food smells around.
like there's food smells around. Isn't it weird that, do you know that that's psychological
or do you not think so?
I think it's cultural.
I don't know, I think, is that Asian people do it?
I don't know, sound off in the,
Asians sound off in the comments.
Is it psychological or am I Asian?
I can't tell.
See? Yeah.
Okay. Go ahead.
Oh.
Do you want me to ask another question? I thought you were gonna say something and I cut you off. Oh no, um. Do you want me to ask another question? I thought you were going to say something and I cut you off.
Oh no, no.
I was just going to say that for me, like, if there was an episode of the Twilight Zone
written about me and my life and like it ended with me being trapped in my own version of
hell, it would be that my hands are sticky and I have no way to clean them.
That I agree with.
Like, B.O., sweat, dirt have at me.
But like, sticky hands is so uncomfortable to me
that like, I like freeze, I panic,
and it'll just ruin everything.
It's sugar foot, candy foot.
Like, the idea of stepping on a hard candy before bed
is also my Twilight Zone nightmare.
That sounds fun, though.
Like, why were you stepping around hard candy
right before bed? Like, what were you doing?
For example, you've already put your little sleepy hat
on your pajamas at night,
but then you forgot your glass of water.
So you walk over to the kitchen, and then you accidentally step on something really sticky.
Does that not send you into a tailspin?
I don't have anything sticky in my apartment.
I don't like candy in my apartment ever really.
So your floors are always just polished and never sticky?
No, no. I just don't ever have sticky candy on the floor.
What about maple syrup? I don't ever have like sticky candy on the floor.
What about maple syrup?
I don't have maple syrup.
What about honey?
I don't think I have honey.
Any sugary treats that might have fallen on the ground?
Maybe chocolate.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not as sticky, you're right. But would it have caramel in it?
No.
What kind of...
What kind of chocolate are you eating these days?
Just dark chocolate. Wow, very adult are you eating these days? Just dark chocolate.
Wow, very adult.
What percentage?
Like 85.
Wow.
Yeah, I like dark chocolate.
So if you stepped on the sticky candy,
then how much would you have to be paid to go through that experience?
Just to go straight to bed?
Yeah.
Oh, your Mr. Beast side is coming out.
I did go on one of his shorts recently.
Really? And I won $10,000.
Really? Yeah.
How'd you win it? So that was cool.
Whoa.
They said, go find a person who looks like this.
Then I found that person and got $10,000.
Do you know Mr. Beast?
No, I just met him for like maybe five minutes.
How was he?
He was nice and basically I just did the introduction
to the video with him.
Do you wanna see the short?
Oh yeah.
Can we pull it up?
To answer your question, maybe I want to say three grand.
Oh, okay cool.
Because that would mean I don't get a- I don't sleep the whole night.
Oh wow, okay.
Because I'm spinning in my mind.
When was this?
Um, maybe it was in October, but it just came out like a month ago.
Oh cool.
Find this random person anywhere in the world with ten grand. Okay, you gotta find an old man with a wife- Oh my god, this is really funny. like a month ago. Oh cool.
Oh my God, this is really funny. So I just had to find someone who had all that,
matched all that criteria.
I did find a perfect match,
but he said he didn't want to.
New plan.
I'm buying 10 Hawaiian shirts.
Was this his game that he came to you with?
Yeah, his shorts team. It was really fun. Yeah, it was really fun.
But with only an hour left to spare, you won't believe who I found sitting in the lobby.
You are awesome. I'm gonna call Mr. Beast.
I congrats!
That was $10,000.
Wait, actually, okay, whoa.
Should we go on a heli ride?
Okay, that was awesome.
Yeah, that was really cool.
I can't believe how good that was.
Thank you.
Since it's not my video, it feels weird to say thank you,
but that was cool that I got to do that.
Yeah, wow.
I feel like Cabo would be the place
to find that exact prototype, right?
I chose Cabo because yeah,
it was just like a touristy looking outfit. Yeah.
Did you do anything fun while you were there?
Not really.
Mostly just look for that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how much would you have to be paid to go to sleep with sticky hands?
Hands.
Or live with sticky hands for a week?
Live with sticky hands for a week?
Mm-hmm.
But you do know that when Ace is a toddler, she's gonna be Mrs. Sticky Hands, right?
I have wipes, I have soap and water.
It's not, no, don't try this.
They find sticky things and they stay sticky.
Kids stay sticky.
We're not gonna be sticky, okay?
That's a challenge, I think.
Or I'll wear gloves around my child.
Mm, okay.
I think to be sticky hands for one week,
I love this Mr. Beast style trash Tuesday with Dax Flame.
Honestly, I'm like, it would ruin my whole week.
And I'm gonna say $50,000.
Whoa.
Yeah, but truthfully I would probably do it for 20
but don't tell anyone.
That makes sense.
I say go higher.
That's psychological distress.
Yeah.
So if you asked your audience like,
hey guys, if y'all wanna see the one week
sticky hands challenge,
do you think they would pool that money?
What do you think so that would be a bad like of the things they could support that might but I mean it is for
Entertainment but like you could probably donate that money to better things than like a sticky hands challenge video, right?
But at the same time
You could people would donate if they really would think that would be an entertaining video
Then maybe it would be worth it maybe this is a style of
content we should start making so candy on my foot and sticky hands yeah um but
yours has to be for a week but also that's less controllable and you would
have to hire someone to spend time with you to make sure you do it. You stay sticky. Yeah.
Have you ever had your audience fund like a just uncomfortable challenge?
No, but I do have a Patreon.
So that's kind of the equivalent,
but I think that 20,000 would just be a high ask
for one video probably,
but maybe you could make it a series.
What do you do on your Patreon?
Not really anything anymore,
so I don't really use my Patreon anymore.
Or, because I'm mostly just focusing on short,
like Instagram and TikTok,
and whenever I was doing YouTube all the time,
like for the last two years before last year,
maybe 2022 and 2023,
then I was like doing consistent YouTube videos.
There's a lot of talk online about whether you're
a character or you're you.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that conversation?
That has just been the conversation for years,
so it's okay.
Do you have any sort of response or not really?
It's like too hard to explain.
No, I would just say no, it's not a character and yeah.
Yeah, it reminds me of like if someone's a standup comedian
and they have this weird style or weird point of view
and when they're on stage, it's more of it.
But when they're just them in real life,
it's the same thing, but one is they're turning the dial up.
Or it's like how Larry David is like,
that's not me on curve, but it kind of is.
It's like you just-
It's me adjacent.
Yeah, you just turn the dial up.
Is that how you would sort of explain it?
Like when you're in a video,
you've just let yourself be more you?
Maybe more so when I was a teenager, especially.
Like making YouTube videos.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Um... Yeah.
You're like a...
TikToker, Michaela.
Who's that?
Makeup girl.
Why? Wait, what's up with her?
The general consensus is that's not really how she talks in real life,
but it's sort of an amplified version of it.
Same like you said, but I don't fault anyone for, like you said, turning the dial up when
the cameras are on.
If you want to be a character, if you want to be bigger, then whatever you want to be
is fine.
You sort of turn the dial down when you get on camera.
Me?
Is that completely down?
I code switch.
I remember, and this is no shades of bilber,
but when he...
Why not?
Guested on Tiger Belly for the first time,
I felt like I had to, like, tuck my shirt in and sit up straight.
And why?
But it's just this idea in my head that I have to behave a certain way around a certain person.
And I don't know if it's out of respect or reverence.
You're kind of not wrong with that,
because the first, like, one of the first times
Bill Burr ever talked to me was like 15 years ago
at the Improv, and he's the only person
that ever called me out.
He was like, stop acting so awkward.
Everyone likes you.
And it was like, oh, so awkward, everyone likes you.
And it was like, oh, a real person gave his take
on how I am, almost like putting me in my place,
but it was funny, I don't know.
So I think you should have tucked your shirt
and I think that was smart.
Yeah, it's like not wearing a hat at dinner,
or isn't that some like respectful thing
that you're not supposed to wear?
I guess, my parents never taught me any manners.
Do you have manners?
I think so.
Yeah.
Do you have table manners?
I don't think like, in terms of like
not putting your elbows on the table
or using the right fork or anything,
like I don't think I do those things, but like I, yeah, I don't think you would
notice anything weird if I had dinner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Are you sloppy at the table?
I like to eat with my hands and times when you probably wouldn't expect that.
I, for some reason, couldn't love you more for saying that.
My dad was very tough on table etiquette and table manners, so I deviated to the opposite
way.
I went to...
Okay.
He was very...
He taught us how to sit up straight.
You can't even say, may I go to the restroom?
You had to use a code sentence and it had to be,
may I pick up some flowers?
Cause otherwise it was like crude, rude.
And so we had to know proper, like not food to spoon,
spoon to face, right?
You can't go, you can't attack forward.
You gotta bring the food to your face type shit.
But I hated that so much. And I also come from, my mom on the other hand,
eats with her hands because we're Filipino.
So my whole life, it was just this battle at the table
because I would put my knee up like this,
I do this and I would eat this way
and it drove my dad absolutely nuts.
But...
So you ate pussy out?
Pussy out, pussy out.
So sloppy.
And I feel like you should be able to eat
however you wanna eat.
It's your experience after all.
Thank you, mother.
Are we having bananas?
We eat bananas on the show.
Are you sick? No, I was sick like a month ago, and I've had like a cough for like a month
But yeah, like just barely now. Yeah, I heard
Whatever was going around the flu a was absolutely brutal and that it left people like not being able to walk thing
Well, I hope you get your sense of smell back.
Thank you.
Maybe it'll reverse it.
Yeah, yeah.
Should we look at some questions?
We have some advice questions from our listeners.
Okay.
And so this is just, just if I want it?
Yeah. If you want it.
Oh, okay.
You don't have to have it. Cool, cool.
I'm the only pig in the house.
I never not eat it.
Do you think you can help us give advice? Yeah. Okay
let's look here we go. A S are the initials. It starts with E. I need some
advice on how I've been accepting the absence of a dot dot okay comma. I am in
a sexless long-term relationship with my boyfriend that I love.
We live together and have cute forms of intimacy
that are still present, but, comma,
I feel sad when I think about the last time
I've been touched or appreciated sexually,
dash, because in my mind, I didn't know
that was the start of a dry spell, dot dot.
Thanks, y'all, I literally don't know
who the fuck else to turn to. Love you all.
That includes Donut. Thank you AS. This is such a vulnerable good question. Why are you looking at
me? Because I'm sexless? No. We're in a sexless marriage with each other. We are in a sexless marriage.
And it's really frustrating me. What do you think, Dax?
So the question is, they're trying to create more intimacy?
I think sexual intimacy.
Oh, okay. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe just ask them if they want to, yeah, have sex.
Yeah, the first thing I would say to just like,
reassure yourself is that I think it can go up and down.
Like you can have different,
we've talked about this, different sexual seasons.
You could be in like a really sexy season
and then it takes a dip.
So, but I would say that it feels like
the most important thing here is actually
what Dax was just get went straight to,
which is like communicate with your partner.
Like communication about sex is very uncomfortable
for a lot of people and it can be tricky,
but it's like the only way out is through,
it's like just being direct and bringing it up
and having a conversation.
I think the problem with that and having lived through this
very specific thing is it's really unsexy
to have to tell your partner to ask them to initiate.
It's almost like, hey, can you show me that you desire me
is really like the most horrible feeling.
And I've asked that exact question and it puts me in a more masculine kind of,
it just makes me feel like ugh, like I'm literally begging someone to like me.
Whoa.
Or to view me in this way.
I don't know, so this is very tricky and I totally know how,
I don't have the solution to this. Other than maybe write it out, then maybe it is just a dry season.
And maybe it'll come back online down the road.
Or, like, play games.
This I like. Tell me.
Like... I don't know, like...
Ah. Start being cold and distant.
Pull away. You know, bring, start being cold and distant,
pull away.
Bring games back, bring games back.
I think you're right.
I think everyone is trying to be a little bit
too healthy these days.
Communicate, communicate, fuck that,
bring the games back, tell me more.
Or like accidentally, you know,
be wearing something really sexy
that like they accidentally see.
I feel like a see-through shirt, you know?
Like go to bed in like a form-fitting,
like white thin shirt could like really pop things off
or like bend over, you know what I mean?
Like-
Oh, those kind of games.
I thought you were, I thought you'd be like,
wear a see-through shirt and then be like,
going out with a girl, see you later.
Okay, combine them. Yeah.
Do that.
Not just walking around hoping he notices your tits.
Well, I was thinking more like cartoon,
like Pappy Lappee, just like be like accidentally sexy.
I just, when you have-
And then be mean.
When you have low blood pressure like me,
it's all very hard to do.
What do you think, help us, what do you think
of what we're saying?
I don't have any any really good help to give
like in that situation, yeah.
Yeah, I haven't been in a long-term relationship
so I feel like I can't help, unfortunately.
Okay, could you imagine if you were the guy
in that relationship, what you think she should do?
Just ask.
Well, so why is the guy not initiating it is the question kind of?
So maybe the people just kind of like in a longer-term relationship their
attraction just dips?
It can, or in my case mine was addicted to porn.
Okay okay.
So he was replacing my body with
That so she could ask what's the reason great guess
What's the reason that's a awkward question? No, I think that's that's that's a that's a good start. She could
Yeah, try to see if he's like
Looking at too much porn or something or or suggest like let's take a week off from porn. Mm-hmm.
Maybe ask, I guess so, yeah.
Yeah, just ask.
Or play games.
Or play games.
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I've had a huge high school style crush on a woman,
parentheses, in love for years,
but I'm not sure if they know that I exist.
Sometimes I think she knows that I exist,
but pretends not to know that I exist.
Should I give up and move on or should I keep hope?
Have you ever had just a huge crush on someone
and them just not even know you're around or you exist?
Yeah, maybe in high school.
What was that like?
Fine.
Did it hurt?
Hmm...
I don't think it hurt.
Yeah. Yeah.
Did you ever try to make any moves or show her that,
Hey, I have a crush on you?
I think so.
Um, well actually maybe not like a direct asking out or anything
So maybe not this person's probably in a oh wait. I'm
High school style crush so that must be in there out of high school, and they're an adult
So maybe they should ask her out. Maybe.
What's interesting to me about this is that how do you not know if someone knows you exist
or not?
Like, or maybe the person is just speaking hyperbolically.
Yeah, probably that.
Yeah, okay.
Or, I think she knows I exist but pretends to not. is just speaking hyperbolically. Yeah, probably that. Yeah, okay.
Or I think she knows I exist but pretends to not. Well actually, yeah, that is confusing.
I think take a swing.
Yeah, because I recently had this happen
where I had met up with some friends from high school
and one of them was like,
oh yeah, I always had a crush on you in high school.
And I was like, I was so surprised.
I'm just like, why didn't you say anything?
And maybe it was the right thing to do to not say anything.
But as the receiver, being on the receiving end of the crush,
I'm like, I would have loved to know
someone had a crush on me.
Same.
I mean, let's suppose I'm this girl, right?
And I don't know that he exists.
And one day he's like, Kailah, let me take you out.
That, even if my answer was no,
I would be thoroughly flattered,
as long as he wasn't some creep
and he wasn't weird about it.
Or you go the midway version of that,
which is...
Ooh, games, more games.
No, no, it's not a game.
You could test the waters, like,
just approach this person as a friend.
Because you know what?
The truth is,
you don't know if you're gonna even like them.
So be like, I have a crush on this person
because they're cute,
but I don't even know what their personality is.
Why don't I see if they have a good personality
and just be like, hey,
just sort of how you would get to know a friend.
Yeah, that could also be, that is a little shady.
If you do, because that, that read is a little bit
of a long con.
So recently I had been friends with a guy
for maybe what, a good 15 years now,
friends with his wife.
He's come around for Christmas,
he's come around for holidays with his wife, who I love.
They recently separated.
And a couple months ago, I get this long, unhinged DM
basically saying I've split up with her,
talking shit about her, and in that same paragraph,
basically saying, I've always found you attractive,
basically taking a swing, and basically taking a swing.
And so I blocked him.
Oh!
And I immediately was like, I'm done with this friendship.
Mind you, it was like a 15-year-long friendship.
Why do I have the biggest smile on my face?
Because that's so cool that someone said they've
always found you attractive.
The shady part was him trashing his ex.
100% it's weird.
And it's, it's, there's just something so insecure in me
that is like, that must be so cool that you're so pretty
that there are people that have always, you know.
But it's rude.
Yeah.
Because he's been around, like, I know, his kids,
you know what I mean? Like, like, thank you,
but that's, that to me is a long con creepy.
That's why I say don't pretend we're friends if we're not friends.
And then don't trash your ex and then say,
you like me, that's weird.
But for this person, I would say, take a swing.
What are you gonna, like, as long as you know,
you have to be sure that you can handle the rejection.
And saying, you know what, what have I got sure that you can handle the rejection and saying,
you know what, what have I got to lose?
I like this person. Let me ask her out.
And if it's a no, it's a no, then move on.
How do you feel about this?
Like from the guy's perspective, have you ever taken a swing like this where you're like,
hey, I like this person.
Let me ask him out directly.
Hmm.
I can't think of a specific time.
So not really.
Um, but I think that you should do that if
you're brave enough to do that. Do you feel like you're brave enough to do that?
If I had a big crush on someone like how they're describing it, then I would, I
think I would do that. Yeah, yeah. But maybe you said become friends first?
Yeah. I actually don't think that's a bad idea.
You said that might be a bad idea.
If there is an ulterior motive
and then you're just pretending to become friends,
or if you sincerely wanna be their friend,
that's a different story.
But if you're using a fake friendship
to eventually work your way into asking them out.
I see how there is a difference, but-
Don't be that guy buddy. No, I know. to asking them out? I see how there is a difference, but.
Don't be that guy buddy.
No, I know.
But I think I always go back to the example
which I've talked about is like my high school crush,
I had previously thought that he rejected me
so that when I finally met him from after obsessing
over him for two years from afar,
I felt that he already had rejected me.
So I was a genuine, honestly, like,
I can't be with this person,
so I'm just gonna be his friend.
And so I guess that's a little bit
of a different play there because...
I thought it was over.
Become friends anyways and see if you even like them.
Yeah, like, okay, for example,
so I like to set my friends up.
I wish I didn't because it's just, it does-
You did this.
I do this all the time.
Wait, you're not bad.
When I set people up, what I like to do
is I like to say, just meet as friends.
Just take this meeting.
It's a general meeting.
This is not a date.
Take the date out of it.
Date, going on a date with someone is so scary to me.
I've still never even really done it.
And I would say just like meet as friends.
I think that's from a, even just from a place of humanity,
it makes the most sense.
Like take the, I think that's why like dating apps are so,
it must be so weird because you're meeting this person
with so much pressure.
Like, oh, am I gonna start a family with you?
Are we gonna be boyfriend and girlfriend?
Are we gonna have sex?
Like, there's so much pressure on it.
Take all that pressure off and just like meet a human.
And I know I feel so guilty even saying this
from like the place of privilege
where like I'm not in the dating scene.
I know the dating scene like has so many pitfalls right now,
but I'm just trying to help.
I'm just trying to help.
So if it seems like I'm don't know what I'm saying,
that's also completely valid.
Are you on dating apps?
Yes.
Which ones?
Hinge and Tinder.
Whoa, Tinder, okay.
Yeah, but I don't really go on dates at all.
But I did go on one date at the beginning of this year.
And then I got banned from Hinge,
but then they put me back on because I
appealed it because they said I was doing impersonation but then I wasn't
doing impersonation they just thought I was someone thought I was I think and
then so now I'm back on there as of a few days ago but I don't really ever go
on dates um do you like to be set up um I know I don't think I ever have been.
Oh my God, I have someone to set you up with.
Would you be weird if we maybe tried to set you up?
Can I set you up?
Who would it be?
Yeah.
We'll whisper.
We'll bleep it out.
No, I'm not going to even say it out loud.
I want to actually, I want to just like take this and go home with it and figure it out.
Because I feel like I already know.
Don't say it. Say a hint. No, we'll talk about it out. Because I feel like I already know. Don't say it, but say a hint.
No, we'll talk about it later.
Is it someone that was at my birthday?
Yeah.
Okay.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Would you be down with that?
Yeah.
And do you have a type in mind?
Like what kind of...
What are you into?
I don't think I have a specific thing that I'm into.
Yeah, or like a specific like hairstyle or anything like that.
Yeah.
What about like personality wise?
I don't know if I have a specific personality type as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. What about, um, do you have to have similar hobbies?
Um, or things in common? No. So she could be an avid skydiver. Yeah. And you'd be like,
okay. Mm hmm. I'd be interested. Yeah. What about if she was an Olympic boxer? Yeah, that would be okay.
Do you have a physical type?
No.
I think that's a good answer.
Because who wants to hear a guy be like,
I like blondes, you know?
I can't hear that again in life.
I appreciate that you don't have a type.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Somehow I don't get that same respect.
What do you mean?
Because I don't, I clearly don't have a type.
It's like the whole spectrum, right?
I feel like you do have a type.
What's my type?
Odd.
It's just odd.
I also think that having a type is juvenile.
I think it's outdated.
And I think that the truth is,
is that you can meet someone and have a connection with them
and it doesn't matter the type.
100%.
You know, I don't know.
Sure.
But people don't wanna believe that
coming from a girl either.
Why?
Perfect example.
Like it was hard for people to believe
that I was in love in
love with Bobby I know which is that that's them projecting that they don't
think he's a hot guy which he is he is I am NOT into Bobby but I absolutely see
how he's hot mm-hmm do you think Bobby's hot I'm not attracted to guys but if I
was then maybe I would be attracted to him.
I think he's, yeah, attractive.
Great style, too.
I just, the more I think about it,
I think having a type, it sounds and feels really juvenile.
It's like, where does that come from?
Oh, I had a crush on Jessica Alba in high school,
and so I wanna meet a girl like her.
Like, what?
What?
Like, or like, my mom is brunette, so I like blondes.
Like, what is it?
It feels like it just comes from,
how could having a type come from anything good?
Well, having gone to war with Asia files
and white dudes that say-
Hold on, Dax and I both need to sip of water for this.
Heh.
Do you do the glug, glug, glug sound effect on this podcast?
Yes. No.
No, we don't.
I said you can. Oh.
["Glug, Glug, Glug"]
You know, people in my life who've been like,
I don't know what it is, I'm just attracted to Asian girls
and Asian girls only.
And it upsets me.
But the way they justify it is like,
my body just has a reaction.
It's just what I like.
It's what I like.
And...
My body?
But I feel like...
You're your body, bro.
I know, right?
You're not second.
So it's like, I can't help what my dick responds to.
Ew!
But that's what they say, right?
Like, I can't help what I like.
And there is a double standard,
because I feel like when girls talk about, you know, their type,
it's like, 6'4", and this and this,
somehow, like, they sort of get a pass.
But I'm here to call that out, too. That's juvenile.
I think the whole, like, I need a guy who's super tall is ridiculous. But may'm here to call that out too, that's juvenile. I think the whole like,
I need a guy who's super tall is ridiculous.
But may I say, may I add to that?
And wait till you're giving birth to that tall guy's baby,
you're not gonna be happy.
I do get it from the perspective of someone,
like I have a friend, she is a bigger girl, a thicker girl.
And she's just like, I like the idea of my husband being able to carry me to safety.
Yeah, that's true.
If I have to. And someone, a short king, perhaps could not.
And that's her whole reasoning behind it,
where it's like, I just need the brawn
to pull me out of a burning house.
I guess it is shitty to judge people
for what they're into in any way, because it's like...
No, it's not. If it's a guy who just likes Asian girls,
you can judge them all you want. That's weird.
That's exoticizing. It's creepy to me.
Fair enough. Okay, let's go to another question.
Are you okay?
Yeah, yeah. Just checking in.
Okay, I feel like Dax can help on this one.
The initials are G.
I have two sisters who don't speak to each other, and I'm stuck in the middle of a with a good
Relationship with both they both want me to take a trip in the next few months and I can only afford one of the trip
So I can't do both
Neither of them is aware of this predicament
So that person has to figure out which sister to take to choose
Yeah, which trip to go on with which sister. Maybe just say that you need a solo trip.
Oh, like so you don't have to choose.
But what would you do in general
if you had two sisters that weren't talking?
Because that's like stressful and you want-
Try to reconnect them?
Yeah.
How?
Is that a trap?
Oh, parent trap style.
So take, do the trip and have them both join you
without them knowing?
Well, you just.
Then they'd be mad at you as well.
Then you'd have no sisters.
I don't know, it stresses me out so much
because I really don't like when people
aren't getting along and I want them to get along, it feels like triggering or something for me.
What do you do?
Wait, you have a dimple.
Me?
You do.
Where?
Do that again.
On this side.
The other side.
Why are you, that side.
Maybe it's just cellulite.
On your face.
Yeah. I have a chunky face. No, no, you have that side. Maybe it's just cellulite. On your face.
Yeah, I have a chunky face.
No, no, you have a dimple when you do this.
Not like that.
Okay, I had too much attention on my face.
It's so cute, I never noticed it before.
Thank you, Work Crush.
What would I do?
I would honestly be fucking terrified.
First of all, there's nothing scarier
in this whole world than sisters.
And I would be really scared, and I think I would just...
I don't know, what would you do?
I'm recently in a sister spat.
What?
Mm-hmm. And my...
I'm in a sister spat with my sister in the Philippines.
Huge one.
Currently not talking.
But that's okay, we'll swing back around
and talk again months from now.
But my other sister was initially in the middle of it.
And she basically, that sister from the Philippines
tried to get my sister on her side.
And my sister was like, don't drag me into this shit.
Like not my business, blah, blah, blah.
But then she did something so amazing,
which was she then decided that that sister was wrong
and then fully defended me and then wrote her a scaling email
and now she's on my side.
Whoa.
So I don't know, pick a side, I guess.
Don't be in the middle.
Pick a side? Figure out just, you know, pick a side, I guess. Don't be in the middle. Pick a side?
Yeah.
Figure out, just, you know, write it all down.
No.
Someone is wrong here.
Someone is wrong.
Someone has hurt someone really bad more than the other
and pick whatever side is better.
That's my answer.
If you, if, if...
I hate people who play too neutral.
It drives me mad.
If me and Kaila were your sisters
Who would you pick? What happened?
Were your sisters
Hypothetically and we don't like each other. How would you bring us together? You don't even know why we don't like each other. So
First I'll ask so what's your side of the story?
my side of the story is
I just feel like she's been nitpicking my outfits lately. Okay, and the way I look and then what's your side?
She looks like shit and
I
just want her to be her best self.
And cause I love her cause she's my sister.
So I just want what's best for her.
And I'm just going through a slump, a depressive slump.
And I just want the freedom to be sloppy for a while.
But how long is a while?
It's been a year. You know what is a while? It's been a year.
You know what I'm saying?
That's too long.
So you think that different clothes will make her happier?
Yeah.
Do you think different clothes will make you happier?
I do think she's right in that I do want to get back
out there and date again and be social again.
I just don't have the energy
and I also don't have the money for expensive clothes.
So she doesn't have those clothes.
So what do you say to that?
I think she could figure out a way to get them.
How?
Get a second job.
So would you get a second job?
I would, except my mental health is really
just not optimal right now
and that would cause further stress.
Then what do you think about that?
I don't know.
I think I'm putting my drawing my line in the sand here.
And so you...
It's not up to me to figure out how for her to look better.
It's just for me to tell her she needs to look better.
Because you think that will make her happier? Yeah. But you're mad at her because she's
saying that? Yeah, I'm mad because I just don't have it in me to look better than I currently am. Why are you so stressed about that? Because you think it will make her happier. She knows she looks bad.
I do know I look bad. I know I look bad.
But bad is where I need to be right now.
Maybe it will work itself out naturally.
Just with time.
Why don't you offer your services, bitch?
Help me out. Give me your clothes.
Because bitch, you know how to look best. And wait, you're supposed to be mediating.
I don't know anything else to do.
So basically it sounds like you just don't
have any other options because you just need
to get another job, but you don't feel ready, right?
Correct.
Well, okay, maybe you should just stop criticizing her because she already knows what you're
saying.
Okay okay.
What would you have done in that situation to mediate that?
I don't know.
Again I sisters fighting is there's nothing scarier on this planet to me.
I don't find it that scary.
No matter what, well, at least in my family, it's like, we'll come back together.
That's true.
There's no not coming back together.
There's a safety in my sisterhood to know that we're just going through it right now,
but we'll come back around.
I feel like I have that safety with my parents,
but with my sister, it feels a little bit...
realer or something.
I don't know.
Like, my favorite thing is to scream at my dad.
I don't know why. I love screaming at, like,
an 81-year-old frail man.
It just, like, makes me feel, like, powerful and safe.
Mm-hmm, I get that.
Yeah.
And because it's like, I know that we're good. I yelled at my. I get that. Yeah.
And cause it's like, I know that we're good.
I yelled at my mom the other night.
Sick.
Middle of the night, I asked her to help me out
and put a pillow behind my head.
My hands were full.
I said, she's like stumbling around the dark.
I said, I need two pillows behind my head.
Can you help me out?
And she's losing her hearing.
So I said it louder and louder as I said it six times,
and I finally just like screamed it out.
And I have no regrets.
That's just how, that's the safety of that kind of relationship.
Yeah.
And she was just like, okay, cool, she's just having a moment.
She's screaming for a pillow.
We'll get through this.
Is that how you feel with your frail dad?
Yeah, and I guess with my mom too,
it's like her latest thing is like
getting me to renew my passport.
Oh, I need to renew my passport.
Wait, I'm in the middle of this crisis myself.
Yeah, and it's like every day she brings it up.
Right, right.
And I'm just like, this is annoying.
I don't know, but it does fill me with rage.
I can take your passport picture.
You can?
Yeah.
Wait, that's, cause that's my hangup.
Yeah, you do it at home.
You can do it on an iPhone.
But it seems stressful.
Oh, it's a white background, baby.
What's so stressful about that?
Okay.
We have a lot of wallpaper actually.
That's what's stressful about it.
That is true.
You do not have a single white wall in your home.
I don't know that we do.
Do you have a passport?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Do you like your passport picture?
I think it's fine.
You could probably take it here.
There's a couple of white backgrounds.
You have a good eye for white backgrounds.
I often use them for filming.
And tros. Wait, Esther, when are you leaving the country?
I'm not. You just need a renew?
Because they say that if you don't have the real ID by May,
then you have to have your passport to fly.
And it seems a little easier for me to get a passport renewed
than to figure out a real ID.
You should have had that.
What's wrong with you?
What?
You're not in your real ID by now.
Are you serious?
Are you fucking serious right now?
Yeah.
Are you, you have one?
Of course.
They were telling us since the pandemic
to get a real ID to travel.
Yeah.
Do you have a real ID?
I think so.
Wait a second.
What?
Wait, fuck off.
You guys all have real IDs?
We all got the memo.
It was necessary, like four years ago.
Yeah, and then they kept saying, never mind, never mind.
It's fine.
So you have an addition to your driver's license,
a separate ID?
A real ID, yes.
Oh, is it not your driver's license?
Let me see it.
Your driver's license has to be a certain kind of real ID.
Please sound off in the comments if you have a real ID, because every time I saw those signs,
then they would say the deadline has been extended. So I'm like, oh, this is fake.
Like, they're just, I don't know. I just thought it was a complete scam.
You all have one. Is it the same? Is it a separate license?
No, it's the same thing. It just says real ID and it's your driver's license.
Yeah, it's your driver's license.
It says real ID.
What the fuck is that?
What is that?
Why?
We're just sheep.
We were told and we followed.
Well, I'm Jewish.
I have to be careful that it's not like
they're starting the next Holocaust and this is how.
That is a good point.
So I have to question everything.
Lucky for you guys, you Asian.
I also have global entry. guys, you're Asian. I also have global entry.
Wow, you're fancy.
Do you have a real ID?
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
What the fuck is going on?
I wanna go home.
Okay, final question.
I have a friend or family member
that's in a cult slash pyramid scheme.
What would you do?
Dax. Just try to
convince them to get out of it. What would you say? Maybe here's what's
happened to previous people in these situations and that could happen to you
as well. What if they've been completely brainwashed? I don't know how you
would get through in that scenario. What if I tell you,
Bhagwan is now my lord and savior
and I will do anything he says.
Including, well no, that's a little graphic,
I won't do it.
I won't say it, I don't know why I went there.
Oh my God, you said it!
You said it still! I know, but I my God, you said it. You said it still.
I know, but I-
Just because you said it in the side voice
doesn't mean you didn't fucking say it.
I don't know why I went there,
but I'll do anything he says.
We all know what.
Don't do that.
Maybe, why did you choose this person
The question um I think he is
Enlightened I think he is
He is the prophecy he knows the end of times he knows
He has all the answers
But I feel I feel great being in his presence. What would you say?
I'm not sure.
I don't know how to convince him.
I would just say go on then.
You're fucking freak anyway.
Just go.
But what if, Vax, I'll do you one better, what if you know that we're, in 10 days, we all plan on wearing purple Nikes and drinking a cocktail and doing a mass on a living.
So in 10 days, you may lose someone you really, really love if you don't pull them out of this cult.
Maybe, um, what's, what's your favorite thing to do? Dive in the ocean.
Do you want to go diving? I would love to go diving, Dax. So then like try to
convince them to go on a trip instead or something like that? That is the best
answer ever. But it might not work. It will work, okay, for someone like me
because that
totally brings me back to who I am at my core. That is my most beloved thing. And if you take
me out to dive, I will, my ears are open to you. Okay. Brilliant. Wow. That was pretty good.
Esther, dancing. Yeah, if you were like, let's go get you into a dance class. I would be like, oh. You love dancing? Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
What do you love?
I like to make videos.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you do standup also?
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
How long have you done that?
Maybe 15 years or so.
Cool.
Yeah.
Do you do standup as well?
Just as of recently.
Oh really?
As of like a year now.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Where do you usually perform?
I just always go to an open mic.
You do?
Actually, the only time I've done a show
was before Bobby and Andrew invited me on.
Well, actually, I also opened for like a musician.
And that was like,
but I really enjoyed when they asked me to come on.
That one was really fun.
And that's the only time I've done it outside of an open mic. And that was like, but I really enjoyed when they asked me to come on. That one was really fun. And that's the only time I've done it outside of an open mic.
And that was awesome.
Yeah, yeah. That's cool that you're doing open mics.
Yeah, I always go to the same one.
Do you have any tips?
Do you do stand up? I don't.
OK, have you ever sensitive topic?
But yes, so in the beginning of my relationship with Bobby,
he sort of forced me to do stand-up and I I don't think it's because he thought
I could do it I think it's because he wanted me to experience pain okay so you
didn't like it um it was brutal um I did open. I maybe did a total of seven or eight before I realized, oh, this is a game he's playing.
That's a lot.
But did you so is it I should have asked you more about it?
No, no, you can ask me more about it.
Yeah. What did you ever get any good laughs?
Occasionally, yeah.
But you just enjoy it overall.
No, I'm not someone who likes to perform on stage at all
Okay, I think that that was the major hang up. It's like I I'm not a natural performer
I think that you would make a great stand-up and I think my advice is like
Get just get on stage as much as possible and continue to be yourself. Okay, and I feel like
That's probably what you're doing.
Sometimes I'll get laughs,
but I'm not consistent and not like confident in it,
but I enjoy it, so that's why I keep trying it.
Yeah.
How long is your longest set?
I really am like different than most comedians
because I do prefer less of a, less time on stage.
Like I'm always the comedian that goes under.
Basically, my longest set has probably been 45 minutes.
And that, but that's not typical for me.
Like most standard sets are 15 minutes
and that's like where I'm most comfortable.
And then when I tour on the road,
I'll do like 40-ish minutes.
Okay.
And then when I tour on the road, I'll do like 40-ish minutes. Okay.
But yeah, I think I've found that there's a certain type of comedian that really likes
to go hour, hour plus.
They run the light, they go long, where I don't, I don't for whatever reason, like that's
not me.
Could I ask you for a piece of advice?
Yeah, of course.
Or feedback?
So, I did that one show when they asked me to do it before them and that was really fun
And that was maybe five or six minutes. Yeah, but then whenever I did the
concert one where I went on before the
musician
That one was maybe ten minutes of comedy
Yeah, and I could tell they were getting pretty bored
after like five minutes.
So how do you make it interesting for longer?
So that's like the big question
and that is just getting better at it.
Cool.
And it's also, it sounds like you probably just need,
it sounds like if I were to guess
that you have five great minutes
and you need another five great minutes.
Okay.
Does that sound right?
I don't know if it's five great minutes.
I just, sometimes the jokes work
and I usually try different ones each time.
Interesting.
I think that getting, expanding the set
is about the material and just getting and finding more material that works.
Cool.
Yeah, and just that just comes from writing
and trying new stuff on stage and performing.
Okay, cool, cool.
I feel like when I went to the concert,
there was an element of like them being bored,
but I think like there was half the audience
that was still being supportive.
Also, I just wanna point out something
that is very obvious to me when you say that,
a concert audience is a terrible audience for standup.
I like any show, this is like something
that all standups know, any show where it's also music
being, that's not a good venue for getting laughs.
Yeah, I think they were pretty amped up,
cause it was like maybe a 30 minute opener
than 10 minutes of comedy.
That's really, really hard.
It's really hard to follow music.
It's really hard when people are interested in music.
They're not there to listen and pay attention.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't count that that,
I wouldn't put a lot of value on how that went.
Okay, okay.
I would just count that as like an experience,
but not the true, like,
I bet if you did that same 10 minutes,
there's a good chance in front of a comedy crowd
that it would go much differently.
Maybe so that would be, yeah, it'd be fun to try that,
try that same 10 minutes in a different situation
just to see how it would go.
So is podcasting your main passion?
I wouldn't say it was a,
it's something that I intended as a career.
It's something that I stumbled upon a long time ago and it just kind of stuck.
It's an accidental job that turned out like pretty great for me.
Cool.
Outside of that, I went to nursing school.
Cool.
So I have my bachelor's in nursing.
Okay.
And I wanted to work in the medical field.
Before that, I thought I was gonna become a doctor.
And then I realized I was really broke
and that was not gonna be possible for me.
And then nursing school and then I met Bobby
and then he was like, hey, don't be a nurse.
Let's just have some fun.
And then one day I bought some mics
and I hit record and all of this came out of that.
Cool.
Yeah.
Cool.
And I've kind of just sort of stuck with it.
But I also own a haircare brand. Okay. And I'd love of just sort of stuck with it, but I also
Own a haircare brand, okay, and I'd love to give you product. Is it that one? It is that one. Yeah
So that's that's what I do in life. Awesome. Do you have other passions besides making videos? Um
Hmm I Hmm
I don't think so yeah, I just like to yeah just try to figure out different types of videos to make because previously it's been like longer videos and like a game show and stuff and
then lately it's been more like trying exploring different types of comedy such as yeah, like stand-up comedy or like
physical comedy shorts or
Haven't really done many sketches, but
This morning I was trying to figure out some new physical comedy video to make
Yeah, do y'all have any things that come to mind for physical comedy like things
Give me an example like I've done like
like things give me an example like I've done like
lifting weights, and then you drop it on your foot and then fall down and then like something happens and then like or
like water Watering something with a hose step on the hose and like but is it broken and then the water shoots in your face like those
Kind of things and
That is funny
Yeah, sorry, I don't know why I'm asking about that, but...
What do you find funny?
I guess just things like that.
What about like walking into a glass door?
Oh, that would be good.
That would probably be too expensive logistically
to figure out how to do,
but that would be awesome if I could do something like that.
Or like bowling and then flipping backwards.
Cause you're not wearing your bowling shoes.
Yeah, yeah.
That's good.
But these sound like they hurt.
You can fake it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I hope you like us.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
Is that, that's the outro or is that, or are you just asking if I like you like us. Yeah. Thanks for having me on is that That's the outro or is that or are you just asking if I like you both? Okay? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for having me on
It's better. Thank you. Thank you. It's it's been way better. Yeah. Yeah than it was and thank you for pulling me out of the cult
For sure. Great job. Do you think you can see yourself coming back?
Yeah, if y'all would like me to come back, um, and if you're, uh, yeah, then I would come back, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think we would like that.
Yeah, maybe we'll have some, like, games prepared.
Oh. I never thought of that.
Like Mr. Beast style.
Yeah, that would be fun.
Well, thank you for coming and taking the time out of your day
Where can people find more of you?
Just on like my I think my tag on most things is just X flame or the decks flame
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