Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - We Did Our Research on Hallie Batchelder

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

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Okay, next quote. I don't want an arm in me. Yeah, it's painful. I can't sit on it. But there's no arm. No, but like if a guy has something this big. But it's not that big, is it? There's some men that big.

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It's out now. I like the way you're sitting. It looks more comfortable. It's not, though. I was going to ask you because you have a hip flexor problem. Yeah. What is your hip flex? Strained it this past summer. How?

I don't know. But I was like... The way you answered that, you're like, I strained it. It was like, is it sexual? It probably was. I don't know what I did to it, but I woke up one morning and I was like, I couldn't even put weight on it. And I thought I like did something really bad.

Like I couldn't lift it above here. And then the next day, I woke up and it was fine. It was the weirdest thing. I've had some hip flexor pain post pregnancy. Postpart. That makes sense. Yeah. Welcome to Trash Tuesday. I'm in New York. I'm on location today with Hallie Batchelder. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. I do feel like you're my doll. I love that. And we're going to play.

Okay, perfect. Let's play. Okay, so you and I are from very different worlds, especially like, particularly in the podcasting space. I have a lot of questions for you. I did a lot of research on you. Yeah, I see all the notes. You came prepared. I'm kind of nervous. So firstly, I've been living in L.A. for the last like 15 years. So to me, like all you little like New York City Barbie dolls, like I don't know anything about your life. I can't even like wrap my head around it. Yeah.

I would love to know what is an average day in New York City for you. For me, I can kind of make my own schedule every day. But I'm not one of those like girls that like wakes up super early and like gets the mottchung. It was like the Tracy Anderson classes and works out. I'll sleep in as long as I need to. And then I usually go walk and get some coffee, do whatever I need to do, whether that's a recording or run some errands. And I go out like five nights a week. At night?

Yeah. What time do you leave the house? I feel like a New York dinner kind of starts 8.30, 9. And I usually go to the same places. Like I'm a big, like, members club kind of girl. So I'll either go to like Zero Bond or Shame or Go. Okay. What is zero bond? Is that like Soho House but better? Yes. Okay. That's exactly how I describe it. I mean, I don't even know who goes to Sohouse anymore. Really? Okay. Okay. Yeah. So House is like very vintage. Okay. Yeah. Sohose is actually right across the street from Sheenbargo. They're all relatively in the same same area. So these are all like members clubs and like you go there and you like see the same like hot people. Yeah. You apply and like either get in or don't get in and then it's like you have to pay like a fee or an annual fee or initiation fee and then.

They have perks like, I know Zirubon has like an equinox perk and there's good food and good vibes and good music. Do you go out with the same group of people? I switch it up. Honestly, I go out with whoever's down and go out because I feel like five nights a week is a lot. But I like to be outside, you know? I'm single. I like to meet new people.

Like that's how I charge my social batteries. By going out. By going out. What is a best case scenario for a night out? Like I'm just like all about the giggle. Like as long as I'm like laughing the whole night, it's a successful night. But, you know, meet a cute guy, maybe. What's the worst case scenario for a night out?

Worst case scenario is like I get lost or lose my phone or break my phone. Has that happened? It happens all the time. I break my phone all the time. How do you break your phone? I'm very just clumsy, especially when I drink a little. I just drop things. Do you have a phone case?

I do. But even that's like broken. Look at it. So you've actually lost your phone. Yeah. What do you do when you lose your phone? That sounds really scary. I just like buy a new one.

Okay. I was at a wedding actually a few months ago. It was like my best friend's wedding I was in and I smashed. I dropped it and smashed like the front camera screen and I had to like Uber eats a new phone like right then and there. I've never heard of that. Yeah. It was insane actually. Have you ever been hit on on the bus?

I don't remember last time I had been on a bus. Okay. Okay. I take the train sometimes to go back to Boston. But like I don't take, I don't think I've taken the bus. I've never taken the train here either. You never taken the subway? I've taken the Amtrak.

I've never taken the subway. That's what it's called, yeah. Maybe once when I first moved here. Wait. What? Yeah. So how do you get around? Uber or Lyft.

But it's like the traffic is bad and it makes everything go slower. Is it faster? Is it faster? Yes. Sweet. You didn't know that? Well, like I've maybe to go like to Times Square like through the city. I feel like that would be faster.

taking an Uber. You never go to Times Square to get like an I heart New York sweatshirt. No. They have those in Tribeca. You know, my homework assignment after this, I'll take the subway. Okay. I just feel like I'd be like that one case where like someone would like push me or something, you know, like I look like pushable. I feel like everyone thinks that because whenever I'm there, I'm like, okay, I'm standing like away from the edge. Like really, yeah. I've heard some horror stories. Of people being pushed? People just getting like spit on or like yelled at. I don't know. Really? I don't even know how you would work it. It's so easy. It's actually really... We can go together. Yeah. Like, they made it really easy recently

in the last few years because you just like do your Apple pay and they let you in. Oh. You don't even need a card. It's crazy easy, I promise. I sound so out of touch right now. It's amazing. I can't, how long have you lived in New York? I lived in New York since, um, just post-COVID. So about six years. About six years. And you've never taken the subway. That like, I feel like you deserve some sort of like award. No, like, I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've, um, um, just, I've maybe taking it once or twice back of the day, but I just, I don't know. You should be studied. This is very interesting.

I wonder what Mom Donnie would think of you. Oh, I don't know. Okay, I saw you say, I feel like, okay, so you're really close with your family. Very. And it's like kind of weird. Weird? Well, it's weird because I feel like your image is like naughty girl. Mm-hmm.

But then you're like hanging out with your family, your parents, your brothers. Because I have kids now and I feel like as a parent, all you want is like to have your kids in your lives like as when they're adults like you want them to like stay close yeah what do you feel like your parents did right that makes you want to hang out with them i just think they're fun honestly i feel like they're we've kind of cultivated such like a strong almost like we're like all best friends kind of as adults maybe that is kind of weird but like i honestly have some of my most fun nights going out with them also we have an antitucket house and we kind of go back there every summer and we sleep with the twin beds and it

kind of feels like we're in like college again. It's kind of nostalgic in a way. They were not too strict. They kind of loose leash on us and yeah, they're great. I feel I have a similar thing where I'm close with my parents and also like they were never strict. Yeah. And I have fun with them. Was it always like that growing up? I mean, there's definitely been phases in my life where we like butted heads a lot more. I mean, I was a difficult teenager, I would probably say. How so? I just feel like there was years where I really didn't like my dad. There was years where I really butted heads with my mom and just like always thought it was right. I've matured a little bit. I feel like now we're at a, you know, a calmer place. So I also saw like you, I think it was you or your brother said like they're mama's boys. Yeah, they're definitely mama's boys. I have a son which was like really like unexpected for me. I just didn't think that that could happen to me. Isn't it like 50-50? I don't know. I don't know. I don't. just feel like I'm a girl mom. Yeah. But now I have a son and I'm really into it.

Yeah. If your brothers are mama's boys, like, what is your relationship with your mom? I don't think they favor anyone. I think they have like different relationships with each and every one of us. We're all very different in a lot of ways. I think they definitely like my youngest brother Sammy a lot because he's just like a golden child. I feel like me and my brother were like the middle kids. We probably gave them a little bit more stress. But I feel like my relationship with mom is more like we have really good conversations and she's always been more like emotional support whereas my dad um i've just always like had the same personalities we've always clicked

because we're very similar in personalities okay so does that mean that also then like when you fight it's like really explosive yeah i don't like fight with them that much though like i never fight with my parents i love to scream with my dad really yeah especially now that he's like 85 he's like so frail and weak that it's like I it's a really fun to scream at a weak old man it's seriously like I highly recommend it you should yell at my dad I'll yell at your dad I might cry after though okay talk to me about like your masculinity I talked about this recently on a podcast I did you know Becca Moore yeah she is like a big like lesbian yeah and she was like everyone thought you were gay like everyone thinks you're gay And I was like, do I give gay?

I think you give masculine. Yeah, maybe that's different. But in like a good way. In a good way. Yeah. What? Like, cool? Yeah.

But how did you become this like alpha girl? Alpha, I like that. I don't know. I, it's weird because I went to like in all girls Catholic school where everyone was like very preppy. We didn't have uniforms. I just like kind of like I feel like it matches my personality. And you were fat when you were younger? I was really chubby.

be. I love that for you. I love that character building era. Honestly, I feel like it made me have to have a sense of humor. Yeah, I know. It's actually really unfortunate. I also, well, for me, I gained like about 40 pounds in college. 40. Okay. That's a lot. I'm five foot. Five foot nothing. So that was really, it was world building. It was hard. Yeah. It's sad for me to think about what could have been, like, I could have just been like a quiet bitch if I hadn't gotten so fat. I wouldn't have to be like nice. And like, try. You were cute that bitch. Yeah, that's what I always thought.

I was like, the only way I'm going to make friends as a kid is, like, to crack jokes. And, like, that's the only way I would get friends. And then I became skinny and then I was just skinny and funny. Well, that's something that I heard you say that, like, you became skinny and then, like, cool girls started liking you. Yeah, and guys. And has that, like, messed you up in a way that you feels, like, lasting? Yes. I definitely attributed like value to like a number on a scale from that point on.

And do you still feel that way? Yeah. I struggle with food. I mean, it's just been in my life since I was like 12 years old. Yeah. Like the ups and downs and the fluctuations. I talk about it on my show. I've been to reab a couple times for it.

Like an eating disorder program. Like inpatient. I've been to one too. Really? I call it eating disorder school. It was like camp. Yeah. I did like an, it was 30 days.

why I could have stayed longer but I was like enough. I should have stayed longer. Wait, you didn't. How long did you stay? So I stayed for a month each time. Mine was like, I think it's called like PHP partial hospitalization. It was like eight hours a day and you go there and like there's like different therapy classes like CBT, whatever DBT.

There's like nutritionist and we did family therapy. Did you do all this? Well, I, so I almost was hospitalized because I was really like my organs were feeling. I was really, really bad. What age were you? This is when I was 17. So, like, they were like, you're going to either get a feeding tube or, like, we'll send you to, like, inpatient. So I just sleep there for three weeks.

And then I stepped down. So I did sleeping there and vitals every morning and all that stuff for, you know, 24-7, couldn't leave, couldn't walk around. I did that for a month. And then I dropped down a partial, which is what you're describing. So that was more intensive, kind of like a school day. Yeah. Like eight hours a day. Have you done it again since you were a teen?

Yeah, I did in college as well. The same exact process. Do you feel like it helped you? No. The people, I went to a bad rehab. It was closest one to my mom. She wanted to be able to visit. Like my family wanted to be able to visit and stuff.

And I wanted to be close to my friends and all that too. So I went to one that was kind of just like not a good one. I wish they kind of sent me away to like Florida. And like I really like nipped it in the butts. Like some of these fancy ones you can get like acupuncture and like the whole. The whole like spa treatment, but it's really, it's like six figures to go. Yeah. But I wish they just sent me to that one.

And maybe I wouldn't have to gone, like, go like 10 times. Would you go again? If I needed to. Yeah, you don't feel like you need to. Not right now. I probably could use some, like, therapy. Some tuneups. Some tuneups or something.

It just, like, didn't work. And I feel like I kind of, like, honestly learned more habits in there with everyone else just being in there. Like bad habits? Yeah, like, people just, like, talk about, like, how. they cheat the system kind of. And you just like kind of learn more tricks to have and you're like fucked up heads back pocket, you know. This is not. It was not good.

Wait, okay, so your birthday's coming up? Yeah, tomorrow. You hate birthdays? I hate birthdays. I hate birthdays. I just don't know what it is. It feels like humiliation ritual. It's childish.

Yes. I don't know. People are like, it's my birthday week. It's my birthday month. I'm like, I'd rather die. Like, that's so embarrassing. I feel like I try to like work on my birthday. or just have it be a situation where people are not going to know.

And then it's embarrassing if people find out it's your birthday. And they're like, oh, my God, why do you tell us? I'm like, this is my nightmare. No, I know. And like, I love attention, clearly. But there's something about birthday attention that I'm like. Well, everyone else gets it. So it's like this doesn't count.

Yeah. It doesn't feel like an accomplishment. It's like one year closer to death. How are you feeling about being like turning 29 and like, like my last year, my 20s? I don't. Well, I will say I'm 38. I do personally feel that your 20s kind of go until 35. Okay.

I like that. I'm going to keep that in my back pocket for sure. Yeah, I just still, the thing I don't like about birthdays, too, is I feel like I'm so reflective on it and like hypersensitive. And I'm like, what did I learn? And like, should I be a different point in my life? And I kind of look at the glass half empty rather than, yeah, I made it another year of light.

Like, I don't kind of look at it like in a negative light. I'm excited, though. I want to make 29 a good year. What are your goals for 29? To like make a lot of money, maybe like take dating more seriously. You're a single right now. I'm single. When was your last non-single time? In college. What? I mean, it's my choice that I haven't had a boyfriend's in college. Yeah. Why? I don't know. There was just my, I committed to like my early 20s about being about me and just like having fun hookups and not taking anything too seriously and I feel like I had a lot of self-work to do and I felt like I would be a nightmare if I was in a relationship because I was... That's the whole point of a relationship in your 20s to ruin a man's life with like ultimatums

and threats and I just never like was like that. I mean I kind of you know more recently I've been having more like dates and like maybe like having a crush but I'm kind of scared of commitment. So you get in situationships and is it a situation where like maybe they would do more and you're like, I don't want to. Yes. I mean, I've been in both situations where I would have dated the guy and he just want to date me. Really? And or I've been hooking up with someone consistently and I don't want to date. How? Because I feel like that can be hard. Like how have you, if you want more and they don't, if you've been in that situation, like how do you get out of it? Usually like I'm a, I'm unfortunately, I kind of like ghost a little bit. I kind of,

of just if a guy like is trying to pursue me I'm not into it I feel like you probably just won't hear from me which is bad and you shouldn't do that but but what if you want more I feel like guys are so simple you can tell if a guy doesn't want more like if you want if he wanted to he would right so I don't really like beg or press it you don't beg no like I can tell if a guy just like doesn't want to date me okay I'm pretty good at reading people then you're just like I'm moving on because yeah like I'll like text all my friends about it and like I'll like Ask chat GPT to like, you know, dissect our conversations and be crazy on the back end. But he will never know I'm batting an eyelash.

Really? Yeah, I never show a guy my crazy. Unless I'm like drunk and I drunk. I drunk call sometimes. But like that's like the most I'll show them. Wait, that's fascinating. I've never considered that concept. I just don't want them to know I care that much.

That you have it, but you're able to hold it in. I just kind of put it in a box and then put that box under my bed. Okay, wait. What's your advice? Like how do you hold it in? Like let's say you're with someone, you're like, I want more. I'm sending these texts to chat, GPT. Like, how do you not go crazy and be like, what the fuck?

Be my boyfriend. Like, why is there not more here? I just think I could tell a guy, like, be my boyfriend. Because if you want to be my boyfriend, he would be my boyfriend. And he would ask me. Do you ever pursue guys? Yeah. I send DMs first all the time.

Or I hit on guys. Yeah. Some guys are the pussies. I don't know. No, I know. Like, no one comes up to you at bars or anywhere, anywhere. Sometimes you have to make the first move. I'm super huge on making the first move because I feel like men who chase, like, once they

catch you, they're just going to want to chase something else. I feel like it's almost better to find a man that's just like sitting there. Yeah. And then you pounce on him. Yeah, I think I kind of a lot sometimes. Yeah. If they didn't, that would be weird. That would be weird.

Yeah. Do you feel like you would want a relationship? Yeah. But I'm all about, like, timing and the right person. You're not trying. I don't know is the only answer I have I want to have a family I want to have kids I want to get married

I never wanted kids and now that I have kids I'm like oh my god I love this so much like how do you even know that you want kids like that's what fascinates me about like a lot of the younger girls like how do you guys know it you don't you've never had kids you don't know what's like how do you know you want kids I just like love babies I don't know and I'm one of four and I just like want that kind of family unit

I just like want the same dynamic I have with my family and we're all so close and I like want to see little versions of myself to be honest and to like meet someone I can like share half my DNA with to make like a little person are you someone that you want kids like soonish or you want them later I want to have I'll probably end up having kids as later as I can yeah that's kind of how I felt like I don't even plan like five years ahead like that maybe I'll meet someone tomorrow and like we fall madly in love and move to Alaska and pop out babies Alaska would be interesting yeah that would be an interesting choice I feel like you wouldn't too well there. I don't know if I would. I don't know to like hike and camp. Isn't it all snow out there?

I don't know. It's not warm, right? It can't be warm. I don't think Alaska's warm. Alaska Airlines, their like symbol is like cold mountains. That's all I know about Alaska. A lot of us talk about like what's your type. Yeah. But I feel like with you, something that I have that's a concern is whose type are you? Like what kind of? What kind of? What kind of? You? What kind of guys is attracted to me are attracted to you scares me like you think bad guys I do I do I do and that's why I think you pursuing a guy is kind of what I'm manifesting for yeah I mean I think good guys are scared of me sometimes yeah I could tell that you're scary to the to good guys yeah to the right I feel like the right guy for you is afraid of you I don't want them to be afraid of me

though. I know, but I'm really worried about the guys. I'm worried about the guys that aren't afraid of you. I don't know. I, I, I, yeah, I think you have a good point maybe because it feels almost like a challenge to be with like a bad boy, I guess. You're into that. I'm, yeah, it seems to be my track record. What is a bad boy? I don't know. Just like someone that like is kind of like mischievous. Like kind of like ambiguous, like a mystery like a puzzle I want to figure out. Or if they're like, problematic I've always I'm like I'm the exception to this situation and what is problematic in this scenario like slutty or like mean or like a rapist like no just like a bad track record maybe or just like you can tell like they have demons and I just like want to like fix them you want to win

them over I want to like be like oh yeah I want to win them over okay is one of your parents like that I think my dad used to be like a big tool back in the day like a like a like a man whore. When he met my mother, he was with his girlfriend and he left her at the bar with one of his buddies and was like, I'm going to go the bathroom and went up to my mom

sitting with a group of like seven other girls was like, I want you. And she was like, fuck off. I'm just trying to think of this. Like, I'm thinking about this in a broader system. Like, why do some of us want the guy that it's like hard to get or like we have to win him over?

Like what are we feeds an ego thing. Okay, yes. But like what are we recreating? Because there are healthy people who just like meet someone that's nice to them and then that's who they like. Like those people are out there. I was not like that. But like those people exist. So there has to be something wrong in like these scenarios where we're like, why is the bad guy?

Like why, you know? I haven't figured this out to be honest. But I did have the other half of it figured out. I do feel like nice guys are like scared to me. Yeah. Do you want to throw any guesses? Okay. Yeah.

Do you think I'm scary? I think that you're very pretty and I think that's really scary. Well, then they're a pussy. Get over it. No, no, no, no, no. Take that back. Take the back. She didn't mean it.

There's men in the room. Men? Our pretty girl's scary? He doesn't look like he'd be scared of a pretty girl. So, okay, wait, you wouldn't be scared of her. No. You scared of me? No.

Now we're just flirting. So you're like, oh, if a girl rejects me, it's whatever. It is. It's true. Maybe that's a New York mentality. We have so much access and see so many of people in a day. There are so many girls here. That is what is crazy is when I walk through the street, I'm like, no wonder it's so hard to date here because there's beautiful people everywhere.

Well, there's beautiful woman everywhere. That's true. Good correction. I think there's literally beautiful women everywhere in New York City and they know what to dress and they have personalities. Whereas I see rarely beautiful men. Yeah. Like guys have it really nice here. So I get like why it's hard to date here because I just feel like, like he said, access.

Like there's so many options for guys. I feel like we all need to like outsource our husbands and wives in like a smaller town. Like Alaska. Yeah. Like maybe go to Alaska for a few months wear a disguise. Yeah. You, oh my God. You should get like big glasses and like a wig and carry around like books.

and be like the before and she's all that. Do you know that movie? Yeah. You should like uglify yourself. That's how you're going to find your guy. I should make myself like a duff. Yes. I should duffify myself.

Yes. What you're doing now, you have to stop this. So be less hot. Yes. Buy books. No makeup, fake glasses. Because this, we're getting nowhere with this. We're actually getting nowhere with this.

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That I would like to address. You really did research. I would like to hear you explain yourself. Oh, no. Are these going to be in trouble? This was one of your quotes in a recent podcast. I have fake tits and people need to see them. Period.

I stand on that 10 toes down. And what does that mean? So I have gotten two boob jobs. The first one, I didn't want to look really scary. So I went like very conservative and went with like the natural kind of approach. And then like guys started to think. like they were real and I'm like why get this surgery if like everyone's going to think they're real like I don't want these Stephen Bounce anymore so then I got a second move job and I went bigger and faker

and I want everyone to see them faker yeah you can get fake I got an internal bra so when I lie on my back they don't like go east to west are they like really circular I got a moderate profile so that has more cleavage up top but yeah I would say they're more circular than um I'd the teardrop gummy bear that's like kind of how a natural breast falls you wanted like circular perky i wanted like perky like almost like bolons that's just like the aesthetic i wanted why did it bother you if they they seemed real i don't just like spent all that money for what for people just think that i was born this way it just felt like it wasn't getting your money's worth it wasn't getting i wanted more people to stare if they looked free what was the point what was the point yes now

I'm getting it. Okay. You said, I don't even want my dad knowing I have tits even though he bought my first pair. Yeah. The context was Brooks. The context was Brooks Nader. Yeah. Which this I agreed with. I love Brooks, by the way. And she can kind of do whatever I kind of said that too. She can kind of do whatever I want. Like she's an iconic queen. But we're not talking about her today. We're not talking about her today. We're talking about you. I don't think me personally. You don't want your dad knowing you have tits, which relatable. Same. I thought that was that. I actually thought that was like what girl is not relating to that quote. But then the follow up, even though I don't even want my dad knowing I have to,

it's even though he bought my first pair. Yeah, he did buy my first pair in exchange for me to get my real estate license. And how was that conversation of like arranging for him to buy them? It's funny because a guy I was seeing at the time, I always was like, I want fake test. He's like, I'll pay for them. So him and his friend sent five grand each. for like both and then I pocketed that. Why did his friend get involved though?

That's what I wanted. Because this guy was rich, why couldn't he just cover the full cost? I think because you can't VEMO more than five grand. So he just like sent the other five. And what was the friend's incentive? I just thought it was funny and he wanted me to have fake tits too. So I pocketed that money and my dad said if you get your real estate license because at the time I wasn't doing anything with my life and I was trying to figure out my career.

He's like if you pass your real estate exam like, I'll buy them for you. What was it like asking for them? It wasn't an awkward conversation. It wasn't. I kind of like asked my mom more and my dad funded it. And how did the conversation go with your mom? She was like as long as they're not like weirdly furiously like big, then like, like, no, that would be the second.

Because she has her head's done. So, okay. So it was like, does your sister have it too? No. Not yet. Not yet. She will. Really?

She will one day, I'm sure. Why? I think she wants to wait until she has kids. Is she older or younger? She's 15 months older. Are you guys really close? We're very close. That's such a cool age gap.

We're like very opposite. Me and my sister hate each other. I don't hate my sister, but we're just like opposite. I do hate my sister. Oh, really? Hopefully she's not watching. No, and if she is, I don't care. But 15 months?

Wait, that's such a goals age gap. Yeah. Because like I'm in the mom era, so it's all about like how soon are the kids, you know, how soon can you pop them out? That I could not do. My mom had four kids. It's under the age of six. I'm going to be honest with, that's crazy.

It's crazy, but I think she wanted a big family one to get it over with really quickly. Yeah. So she was just like a fucking pinball machine. Did it mess up her body? No, she's a big crossfitter. She's like an eight pack. She's perfect. I'm going to need her number.

She's precious. Mother of four is queen. Two girls, two boys. That's so perfect. See, because I'm going from like one and no kids, like maybe I'll have one. and then to now I want like a million. Yeah. But I'm old and it can't happen.

So you're done having kids? Never saying it. My husband says we're done, but it's not up to him. It's not up to him. My body, my choice. My body, my choice, babe. Okay, so the next quote, you said, I've had sex in, like, the bathroom at gospel.

I did. What is gospel? It's like a fun club. Is it like a private club? Actually, it wasn't even a private bathroom. Male or female? Or was it like non-gendered? I think it's like one of those, like, you know, like at a club where like the sinks outside?

I hate when the sink is out. I don't want to mingle. There was a guy at the door and there was like a line and we were in like one of the stalls. And was this a guy that you met that night or did you know him before? Someone I was seeing at the time. Why did you guys do it there? I don't know. I was probably like on, like, like shrooms or something.

I don't know it was fun. I don't regret it. Do all the parts work? Did all of his parts worked? Like your parts? Like where? I don't think I could work. My parts work standing.

Well, sitting. Not on the toilet seat. I think that's what happened. Yeah. No. No, no, no. Please. Yeah.

What about against the wall maybe? But that wasn't. It was a small bathroom, I remember. It's blurry. I don't know. I feel like we made things work, though. Was there a completeness to this act? I don't remember there being completeness.

I think it was very quick and like just like fun. Just like slip it in and like slip it out and then like don't hold up the line. Oh, that was polite. I was thinking about others. So do you recall like people watching you guys go in and coming out together? It's giving homeless, honestly. It's giving guy with no place. He definitely had a place.

Okay. It was just like kind of for the thrill of it. It's not the first time I've done. Have you done that then on an airplane? I've never done an airplane. I don't think I would. I've given like. I'm glad to hear that.

On a private plane. You have. Yes. Like a blow job or something. Like it does not even count in like the private plane bathroom? Whose private plane was it? His. What are other for the thrill of it locations?

Because I'm like I've tried in a shower and I'm like I will never do that again. I need showers like water is not. Water is not a lubricant. It makes it worse. It somehow makes it worse. It somehow makes anti-wetness. It's like friction. It creates anti-wetness.

Yes, it's not fun. I don't like shower sex. No. It's like, it's in my eyes. I'm like, I can't see. What's in your eyes? What's it? The water.

Okay. It's just like not as hot as it looks in the movies. You know what looks hot in the movies? Crying in a shower? Yeah. I'd rather do that. I cry in the shower sometimes. That's hotter than having sex in a shower.

Yeah. And you have to get into your tippy toes and like it just like kind of hurts, honestly. Okay. So other thrill of them. locations in the bed of a truck when I was in high school okay I feel like high school we don't want to count no let's not talk about high school today let me get a minor age although that said that said I feel like because I saw that you mentioned like you've sent like nudes I haven't sent a nude since I was underage I don't send nudes anymore either no what about like to your friends I feel like if

you have the, as I say, I have fake tits and people need to see them. You're not sending those out? I just want people to take a picture in bikini and not have people. Okay. You know, sending naked pictures or videos or anything like I don't do anymore. Yeah. I don't need those circulating the internet. I know, but also, okay, wait. It's kind of iconic though. I have, no, I have a counterpoint, which is, since I've had kids, I do wish there were more in circulation from before. From before. So don't be too shy. Get a couple drinks in me and maybe I'll fire some off. Because honestly, there's color and size changes that I'm just not that comfortable with.

Really? Color? Color. Color. Yeah. Color. Hues. Different hues. Different hues, different sizes. Okay. Different directions. Oh. Yeah. I might need your doctor's number at some point. Also, she's great. Shout out. Anna Steve.

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How old is your grandma? She's in her 80s. Okay. She, like, took out her iPad and... She's an iPad. She's an iPad. She's not a work, though, which is kind of part of the story. She put the Colorado episode on, and I was really just telling crazy stories.

Did you tell her to watch? Like, or did she find it by the time? I totally not to wash. And I think it made her want to watch more. Yeah. I hate that about grandmas. They're sticklers. So, yeah, she didn't know what I turned or paused the iPads.

She threw it out the window because I was talking so crazy. Oh, she wanted it to stop. She wanted to stop immediately. Does she have a lot of grandchildren besides you four? Yeah, I'm one of 13. And she definitely thinks I'm a whore. Is she your mom's or your dad? My mom's.

How does she handle that? Is it like, oh, you're a whore. I love you or is it like, ugh? We don't honestly talk that much. Okay. Probably because she thinks I'm a whore. Yeah. That could be a lot for a grandma, because I,

I was on this TV show called Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, and that was like, that was network TV and that made my grandma a little uncomfortable. And I remember once she was watching an episode and she was like, well, they have a church scene. I like that. Yeah, I mean, there's a different time and era for them. I also once upset my grandma because I did stand up on the Tonight Show and I said I wish she would die so that it would help the real estate market. Oh. And that was a problem. I think, yeah, I get why she would probably read that wrong.

So grandma's, they just don't get it. They don't get it. That's showbiz. What is like the craziest thing that she heard that made you, made her uncomfortable? Do you even know? Do you know, like, did she give the feedback to your mom and then you got it from your mom or did she give it directly to you? I think, I don't know, stories I was telling. I was like talking about just like giving like head to someone or I don't know.

I just getting in like really graphic detail. And she was just like, holy fuck. a horror. But I was like, Grandma, I'm chill. You're like, Grandma, I'll be pulling the plug sooner than you'd like for that one. Watch it. Be careful. It's fine now. Yeah. Okay, next quote. I don't want an arm in me. I don't want an arm in me. Do you know the context of that? Is it like I don't want that big of a dick in me? Yeah, it's painful. I can't sit on it. I think that's what you meant. Like, an arm? Like, are you kidding me? Like, I would snap in half like a wishbone. But there's no arm. No, but like if a guy has something this big. But it's not that big, is it? There's some

that big. I don't think those men talk to me. I think they look at me and they're like, moving on. I mean, you're five foot tall. Like that would go like, it would be poking on your mouth. Stop, stop. Stop. Now I'm going to paint you a picture. Last year, right around this time of year, you said, and I quote, I'm not going to lie. I feel like October is going to be Cocktober. And it was. I don't know. I just feel like the men are like hotter in the fall.

I love Cocktober. Because they're not showing their legs or their toes. Ho, November. Everything is hidden. Yeah. They're hiding more. They are hotter in the fall. I don't know what it is.

No, it's the body parts are hidden. Yeah. And like they just kind of like mysteriously. Yeah. What happened in last October? I've never participated, so you have to really, like, explain it for me. October. I mean, I think I was just, like, saying yes to a lot more things during October. Like what? Men. Do you plan on having another coctober this year?

I don't know. I'm trying to, like, not hook up with a lot of people anymore. Why? It's so unfulfilling. It, like, was. fulfilling no pun intended but it kind of gets old like maybe I'm maturing maybe my frontal lobe is developing a little bit but like I wouldn't go that's crazy that's too much we're girls we that never comes in yeah we were born with a fully developed frontal lobe probably yeah I don't need like a slutty september anymore October November because I feel like because you do talk about this stuff publicly yeah my fear would be then like these guys hear it and then they're like specifically coming for

because they know that you're down. Is that something that's been happening? My DMs are really crazy because guys just think they can like say whatever they want to me and I'll just like suck them sideways. I don't know. My content's weird because I'm very open about sex and about like my stories, my escapades. And I'm just like I say it how it is. Either that really turns a guy off and they're like, I don't want to fucking touch you with a 10 foot pole.

Or they're like, yay, this girl's like easy as fuck. What are some of the DMs that you get? It's like people asking for sex. Like I'm like a sex worker or something. Do you, has it ever worked? No. Wow. I may talk a certain way, but like I got morals somewhere in there, you know?

What are some of them? Like respect and boundaries and loyalty. Those are good ones. Those are good ones. Yeah. I can't think of any others. I can't honestly. I think it's the big thing.

So I've got not. I must have done. I have another quote. I like this game. No one's ever done this. Is Canada a. A country, don't quote me on that. I'm not a geography teacher, yo.

I did a little research. It's a country. Canada is a country and it has 10 provinces and three territories. Well, like, I got confused with North America. What do you mean? Like, North America is a continent. I got continents and countries confused for a second, you know? Yeah.

We're one continent, but like Canada, United States are different countries. You heard it here first. My husband recently was very disturbed by me because I asked him if Boston had a coast. And he said that I should ask you if it does. I don't know. I should know that. Massachusetts has a coast. We're on the East Coast.

Like I said, I'd pass that class. Geography is never my strong suit. Same. So we're in this together. I'm fighting for you No like I thank God for Google Maps I remember being a kid being like How do people get places?

Like do they have maps? Right Because this is before like there was like You could just do it on an iPhone Thankfully the inventors figured it out for us Before we grew up Thank God Okay I want to ask you

Your online presence is very much party girl Go out Hook up, drink, have fun And it actually found like I find myself curious like what are your actual do you have goals like what are you working towards yeah because it's all party I've never partied so this is very like I'm in foreign I'm in enemy territory right now what do you want like over the next year five years like I know yours kids later but like work goals career goals life goals hobby goals like what are what's on your mind what are

you manifesting like put it out there I think this next year I just like I want to continue to like row my platforms. I want to continue to make my podcast bigger. I also I want to do like more reality shows. I want to do like dancing with the stars or traders

or something like cool. Maybe the kids and the husband will fit somewhere in that. It sounds like personality. Like you want to do like personality based work. Yeah. That's all I do is personality based work.

Yeah. Yeah. I think same kind of, to be honest. Like, it's all the same. We're, we both do the same thing. We're personality hires. It's just one of us is prettier. Another one that's short and Jewish.

I did want to ask you, so I'm 38 and I've never been to Abiza. Do you feel bad? Do you feel bad for me? No. Why not? Like, Abiza is scary. Really? It was a fucking blast, I will say.

But I think it took your, I don't even know if I'll make it to 38 because of Abiza. Why? Just takes years off your life. How so? You see things you can't unsee. What did you see there? I don't know. They're just like, I'm a party person until I went to a visa and I was like, I'm like.

You went too far. I'm a JV partier after that. Like those are real fucking partiers. Like people that rip it 48 hours, no sleep, every substance under the sun, partying and just like nonstop. Like I need to take breaks. I need silence during the day. That feels like a problem to me. Yes.

I feel like I party with boundaries. Are they Americans going to Abiza for this? Or are they like Abiza ins? Abisans. I don't know. I've never been there. You're supposed to know this. You went.

I think when the week I was in Visa, everyone seemed to be there from everywhere. There was a couple weeks there that it was like their big party weeks with like all the DJs and etc. So I think a lot of people were there for that. So I think there was just the crazy partiers. We're just like ripping it. Like also I'd never do like something. like Burning Man. Do you know what Burning Man is? I've heard of it. Like I would never do anything like that. Why not? I just don't want to feel strung out. I thought you were going to say like dirt in your

shoes. What's that? Like I don't want it to get under my nails and stuff like that. Right. It feels like it would dry out my skin. Don't go to the West Coast. It's horrible for that. L.A. is so dry. I know. Where would you say is like your favorite place to go vacation? I mean, I've housed in Antucket. Besides that, I think my favorite vacation spot would be somewhere tropical. Okay. Turks, Aruba, I love. My family is timeshare there. Time share. Aren't those like scams? It's just vintage as fuck. Like it's just something that was, my grandparents had timeshare there. And it's like passing down. It's like they pass it down. And it's like you're stuck with it forever. Yeah. And it's like, honestly, I don't love Aruba that much. They're just like

the beaches. Okay. So I do want to ask you about this because you're very open about growing up wealthy. Yes. I feel like you get a lot of hate for that. I don't know why. Do people want me to lie? No, I know. I think it's easy to hate rich kids. It's easy to hate, but I also think for me, I didn't grow up rich. I prefer people to be up front and honest, even if it can, you know, people trigger or whatever it is.

Maybe you're just being some uncomfortable. I don't know what it is, but. Do you feel this is a very, this could be very hateable? Is there anything about it? growing up rich that you feel like has been a disadvantage to you in life? I mean, like, does being always having access to whatever, do you feel like there's a way that that's hurt you? Honestly, the only thing I could think of off the top of my head is like, like with my eating disorder stuff, I feel like there's so much access to like food kind of

hurt me. Why? It was just like something I could always like, binge on and then verge and it was just like I feel like I didn't really know the value of dollar when it came to food and sat almost like eating and throwing up it's like who cares yeah that's kind of what I mean yeah um that's like the only thing I think of that probably gave me a disadvantage is that okay to say I think so yeah yeah well I do because I do feel that like there are disadvantage I personally do feel there are disadvantages to like having too much I feel like I feel like having too much I feel like I feel like you're Like, especially, like, celebrities who, like, get really rich. And then suddenly they're like, we have all this money. And they just, like, can spend it however they want. They usually, like, become drug addicts or, like, lose all their money. Like, I feel like bad things happen. And I'm just curious if, like, coming from money, if you feel like you've experienced that at all.

Or, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I understand that that's, like, borderline rage bait. And I'm not, like, people are going to be mad or whatever. But, like, no, it's okay. They're always mad at me. And I also have a way with rage baiting too, especially since I've had a son, people are like Honestly, I think rage vading is so in I do too

I kind of like love to rage rate like it gets the engagement going it's good it's good for No I my stand-up clips the only way that they go viral is if people are fighting each other Yeah Tooth and nail in the common so you have two sides of people like agreeing and then disagreeing Yeah always create kind of like a form. Circumcision was a big one. Oof. Okay. Because I talk a lot about circumcision because I didn't circumcise my son and I say like that's

not my preference but I'm not hooking up with him so I don't care. Oh wow. That is polarizing. Yeah, that could. Yeah. We're out of time. I feel like it could have gone for hours and hours. I know. It's so much fun. Hallie, thank you so much for taking the time for the crossover event of the year because I feel like I'm from like the comedy podcast world and you're from like the cool New York. influencer world. No, I'm so happy we did this.

I know. You could have talked for hours. I know. We'll have to do it again. You have a podcast called Extra Dirty. I do. It's available on YouTube, everywhere you listen to podcast, anything else to promote at the moment.

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