Trash Tuesday w/ Esther Povitsky & Khalyla Kuhn - Will Nithya Raman Be the Next LA Mayor?

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

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Thank you for that. Can You Make it so Esther doesn't do that anymore. I watch your show. It's so good. And you never talk about it on our show. I know. Thank you for reminding me. Can you tell us about Business Center?

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Today we have returning champion and pregnant. Very pregnant. I just saw myself in the monitors. Oh, no, turn all the monitors out, black out the screens. Caroline Goldfarb. Congratulations. Thank you. You hadn't announced your pregnancy the last time you heard.

We were still concealing it. Yeah. When you were dressed like a fisherman? or something. Yeah. You were dressed in vibrant bottom shoes. I looked I mean, I looked mentally ill. No, you actually looked really, really hot. You were

wearing really baggy clothes. And welcome for the first time. She's running for mayor. Heard of it. Nithia Raman. Nithia! And the H in her name is not silent. Like the one in mine and yours, Kalila. I so badly want your

H to be silent. Oh, you want to call me Nitya? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. No, Nithia sounds Wait, no, I have a silent age It depends where, who says my name Because in like, Yeah, so Middle East is Chalila. Like, it has the age in it, but, you know,

My parents were like, it's Kalila. Yeah. Yeah. Can I call you Cholala? You can call you Chalala. You can throw the ha in there. Say it one more time the way your parents say it. It's Halila.

Halila. Halila. Halila. Yeah. Yeah. Caroline, what's it like having just a boring name? First of all call me, Caroline. Seriously, I'm not getting.

I know, considering I have a Middle Eastern parent, I know. She really did not snap with my name. And I just sound like a boring, straight up Jewish person. But I swear I have my mom's Persian. I'm really interesting. I don't believe that. Believe that.

Let's get into it. Yeah. So I'm going to start by saying this. Spencer Pratt. Just that. Okay, I do have a lot. We have a lot of questions for you. Like, first of all, I'm just going to be real.

Like, his ads are awesome and exciting. And when he starts talking and he gets in his manic flow state, I'm like, I want to go out to dinner with this freak. Like, it is so interesting. But then when I think of taking it seriously the way some people are, I'm like, what, no? And I kind of almost today, like, my. goal would be to hear from you like how are you actually going to do the things that he's fantasizing about because I feel like he's doing this putting on a good show yeah but we all know tale at least for me like tail is oldest time like my gut instincts are like the rich spoiled white guy is just going to

like do the rich spoiled white guy the guy who's living in his parents house in Santa Barbara and I mean well he's living at the at the hotel yeah yeah yeah yeah. And then spending some time at his parents' house in Santa Barbara and blowing all this money on crystals and being a hummingbird influencer. Like, who is not even a good or interesting reality star? It's kind of that thing where like if you know the name like in you're dumb enough, it's like, oh, it's Ted Kaczynski. I've heard of that name. I'll vote for him. Like you just don't, that's a unabomber, right?

Yeah, I thought you meant Richard Kuklinski, the guy who killed and maimed cats. Oh. But that's okay. I'd rather vote for him than that. Spencer Pratt. He sounds interesting. My first question is, did it piss you off that he did an ad in front of your house? Because that's so rude. Invasive. Yes. I mean, look, I will just say that even as a council member, I've had some very weird threats and people being very angry at me for various things. And so the idea of someone being identifying my home, you know, I have 10-year-old twins, like, that just felt very invasive. And it's not like I live on like a, they didn't like give me a house because I'm a council member. Like, I just live in my old house.

Yeah. And you would think that he would understand that being a parent himself, you know, that above all else. Like your kids, privacy and safety need to be, you know, protected at all costs. And so that's a, that's nasty. Yeah, that would really piss me off if someone did that. to me. Well, I know that like this is a pretty serious race for you. Colila personally because you grew up in Altadina. Nithia, I was an Altadina arrested it. I also, can I just take issue with the fact that for some reason people are saying Altadina now and it's pissing me to fuck off.

It's Altadina. Okay, we're not going to Altadina it. We're not going to Navada it. What did Esther say? I don't know. I don't want to remember. I said Ulta Dina. That's where I have all my points. Okay. So I was an Altadina. residents so is my sister my best friend we all lived within three blocks of each other a lot of the and we are not the palisades a lot of residents in altadena and altadina feel like the working and middle class families get buried in the red tape after disasters like with insurance and stuff and while wealthier neighborhoods like the palisades recover faster is that perception fair you know so altadena is not in the city of l a it's in l.a county so the recovery efforts are being led by

LA County supervisors, I think you're a supervisor, supervisor, supervisor, Barger. So I know less about the recovery process there. But having been to the Palisades now a few times, talk to residents there, I think that feeling of being left behind and ignored by the government is, feels pretty universal, both in the Palisades and in Altadena from what I've been hearing from residents, who I know, you know, some of them moved to my neighborhood afterward. This has been a slower recovery in many ways for everyone involved.

And I think it has been extraordinarily frustrating for residents. Extraordinarily frustrating. I think so. Like one of the examples that make me even more frustrated is I have a friend who is a lawyer, an affluent lawyer who lives in the Palisades. And I was just on the phone with him a couple weeks ago. And he basically said he met no resistance from his insurance company after the fires. He lost his home as well.

Got paid out full and fast. Meanwhile, my neighbors, my sister, myself, we've had to itemize every single sock, every spoon. It just feels like while we're still grieving, while still displaced, while traumatized, why does it feel like insurance is so scummy? Like we're paying a premium. My sister pays a huge premium just like everybody else in the palisades. And it just feels as though if you don't have like the resources like a lawyer would or, you know, even to this day. And it's been a year and a half.

And we're still having to itemize every single thing to prove our existence. And it just is really kind of fucked up. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm so sorry that you lost your homes. I mean, the whole, I remember I was at the emergency operations center during the fires because we had, I represent a big piece of the Hollywood Hills. And so we had fires and evacuations in my part of. the city as well that that I currently represent you know from that very first day just the lack of communication the confusion amongst different agencies I don't there were like false alerts

for big evacuation sent out we never got the alerts and something yeah we were because I had a three month old baby at that time our power went out our cell service went out the last text that I got from my staff dad was hey there's a brush fire we saw we looked at the winds outside a suit I I couldn't even get a hold of my sister who was a couple blocks away. We had to drive over and say, you know what, let's not chance it. I have a baby. Let's get out of here. Interesting with that night, you chose to ghost me.

I was like, she calls me. She's like, we need somewhere to go. I'm like, come on over. The door is open. Never shows up. I don't think you made the right choice. I don't think you had a fire plan is why. I was like, I don't know if you're that.

Even when your neighbor is burning down, you will not come over. That's weird. She had to protect herself and her baby. She had to protect herself. Can I hear Jack? Like, I feel like when Karen Bass was running, it was really exciting. And, like, she had a lot behind her that got me, like, excited about her as the mayor. What went wrong?

Like, why has it been so bad? The Ghana trip. This was the Ghana trip during the Aldenna fires. It's hard, you know, hard for me to diagnose what is wrong, right? Yeah. But I will say that having been in City Hall, one of the things that I've seen, just like the kind of the lack of response after the fires, to be proactive, to be present in the community, to support residents through really, I mean, when you're doing stuff like itemizing your losses in order to get insurance without really being supported by the county or by the city, it's retramatizing.

I think the city should be standing with you. I think your county should be standing with you in that moment and advocating. with insurance providers, really doing everything they can to make sure that you're not having to work so hard to get what you already paid for. Yeah, and it always feels, you already paid for it. It always feels like they're just going to play the long game enough so that you take the lesser amount. It's kind of, they're kind of like, wear you down for X amount of time just so you're like, okay, fuck it. Like, what are you going to give me? Fine. I'll take it. And it just, yeah, it's, it's, it's felt like that across the board with all of our Altadena neighbors.

Yeah, it sucks. Yes, it's very, very, very sad. Is there a way to hold these insurance companies like accountable, liable, like put their feet to the fire and say, hey, like, you cannot do this? Yeah, so there is, we have an elected insurance commissioner here in the state of California. And that insurance commissioner, part of their role is to be advocating for you and to be making sure that in situations like this that you are getting what you deserve and what you need in order to be able to rebuild. And to me, that's the role. of should be the role of local elected officials is we don't have necessarily control over insurance, but we can be an advocate and we can be case managing for you and advocating in a group so that you're not going through it alone. I mean, you are not the only person dealing with that. And it is unjust. Yeah. And what is the county doing to stand with you? Again, in the palisades, I would ask the same thing. Is the city doing enough to stand with residents to ensure that they're able to get what they need. And this is what I would say, you know, you asked a question about Mayor Bass. It's, for me, it's like, I can't say why,

you know, it's not for me to say, but what I have recognized is I want a government that shows up for people, even when you're going to be confronted with anger or, you know, challenges. And I don't feel like LA City is that. more, you know, and I've really felt the gap in that. That's just not what I want from my local government. I want a local government that's present. I want a local government that's trying, even if it can't solve all the problems that shows up day after day and that is out there trying and fighting as hard as it can for the outcomes that we all deserve in the city. Yeah, it feels like even hearing you say that, I'm like, I can't even imagine what that would feel like,

because it's like the city does just kind of suck. Like we're all moms, Caroline's a mom to be. And obviously, like, I feel like once you're a mom with kids, like the homeless stuff gets a little bit like more real. Yeah. And it has gotten worse. I would say some people say the last couple years, I feel like the last five to 10 years, whatever. But how do you balance like having empathy for the people who are unhoused and also just face? the fact that like it's a problem for people and what are your what are the vibes yeah so i you know

partly because i'm a mom i've had kids for 10 years of 10 year old twins i can't believe you carried two at once it was very intense it was very intense you're so small they were small when they were born too so but i um i gained like 60 70 pounds something like that do you recommend twins or would I recommend it now. They're so fun and they always have a playmate. So they kind of take care of each other. So after three or four, it became a lot easier because I didn't always have to be talking to them in order to entertain them. They just loved playing with each other.

They're obsessed with each other. Oh my gosh. Still? A hundred percent. They're really cute. A hundred percent they're obsessed with each other. Like one, I remember one time my daughter went with her best friend from school to Disneyland for the day. and she slept over the night before so that they could leave early.

And so she was gone like the whole day, right, and the night before. And so my husband and I took my son and we gave him like the best day he had had, you know, like everything that he wanted to do. And my husband was like, this was like such a great time that I got to spend with just, you know, one on one time with one kid. And then my daughter gets dropped off and she opens a door and comes in and my son just runs up to her and it goes, It was torture without you. Oh my gosh.

Wow. That's really precious. I still don't want to have twins though. No matter what. As mayor, what will you do to prevent me from gaining more weight during my pregnancy? It does go away. As mayor, what will you do to help me magically have twins so that my husband wants to kill himself? I do appreciate Kylie Jenner recently saying that she got up to 210 pounds.

In pregnancy, I was like, hell yeah, girl. No, because you didn't show it to us. Oh, that's right. But you know, she doesn't have to. Well, what good is it? Oh, yeah, this terrible thing happened to me and no one. I don't think it was a terrible thing. She didn't say it was terrible.

She was like, this is just what happened to my body. She didn't say it was bad or good. And I love that. I just want to hear more women who are on the other side of it. Tell me that they got big and they look good now. Yeah, that helps me. Right, right. That helps me.

So I did appreciate that too. Yeah. Thank you, Kylie. But Esther did ask a really important question about homelessness. Oh, right. Yes. Let's talk about homelessness. Sorry. Yeah. So, I mean, look, part of the reason why I got into this work in the first place, why I ran for office the first time, was because I don't think street homelessness should exist in L.A. I mean, it's the richest country in the world.

We're the second largest city. There's no reason why so many people should be living on the streets. And I think the urgency of addressing that became very real to me once I had my kids. our district, we've been able to reduce tents and encampments in the district by 54% over a period of three years. And we did it by going out and being relentless about offering shelter to people and moving people indoors quickly. And then once you're able to actually address the reason why they're on the street, you can clean up tents and you can have a clear sidewalk that's walkable for children and families. What about if they don't want to accept the help? When shelter is offered, people tend to take it.

everyone. The people who don't take it tend to be the sickest people may require significant intervention by mental health teams or other kinds of efforts. But for the most part, people do not want to be on the streets. And when we're able to offer shelter, people go indoors. What does indoors look like for them? So it can be a range of things. We have four shelters in the district. One is a congregate shelter. So, you know, what you think of when you think of a traditional homeless shelter, so with, you know, men and women on different areas and kind of bunk bed type accommodations. We have a family shelter where there's a shared kitchen and eating area and then rooms where families can live together. We have a women's shelter, which is similar, and a hotel

site, which has been under a long-term lease, where two people stay in a room, and you get your own bathroom, and you get a little bit of privacy, but you're still sharing the room with somebody else. So this very different types of options. And we try and put people into the option that works best for them so that they're likeliest to say yes. People with pets, for example, can come into the hotel site. They're not able to bring pets into the congregate site. So we're really trying to get to yes for everyone.

You know, we're like, what can we offer that can get you indoors? But I do want to underscore in L.A., we only have a third of the shelter beds that we need for our total homeless population, right? So my challenge is always how do you secure a bed and then how do you make that offer quickly so someone can go indoors? And if you just say you can't be here, that individual will go down the street and set up somewhere else unless you're actually able to offer something.

And sometimes that is what happens, you know, but we're really trying to avoid that. What we're trying to do is get as many people indoors as possible. Right, because I think one of the frustrating things I see in L.A. is that they will clean up an encampment, clean up, and you're kind of just like pushing around these people. Like, you know, one of the questions I had was, okay, like the people that do accept the help,

the people who are homeless for economic reasons, the people who are homeless that aren't necessarily suffering from either a mental illness or like addiction, that system seems to work for them. What about a place like MacArthur Park? What about a place where people are deeply ill? They are practicing their addiction in broad daylight with almost zero intervention, it seems.

What do we do about that population? So even when people are dealing with addiction, there's multiple pathways that work. Even in those cases, when offered shelter, there's a lot of low barrier shelters that will take anyone. Really, the idea is that you don't want people on the street, right? That's the goal. But there are also rehab beds, substance use beds that people can get referrals to that they can go to as well. So there's multiple ways. Is that hard to come by?

Like if someone were to be like, hey, I would like to detox today. Because from my understanding and from having family that been in and out of the streets, it is either very difficult or a huge cost to the family. My sister was the head of the city jails for over a decade. And she often talked about her. Here in L.A. Yeah, here in L.A. Really?

Yeah. So she's very familiar with just the whole system. And, you know, she often talks about her frequent flyers. And she describes these frequent flyers with like so much compassion, but also a lot of frustration because she's watched them deteriorate over the years. With constant contact with institutions, whether it be a shelter at one point or the jail at one point, why do you think so many points of contact still fail to produce lasting interventions for the more ill, I guess? The more, yeah, the more severe cases.

The people who are, what did she call them, frequent flyers? Her frequent flyers, yeah, yeah. What you find is that in a system, there are a small number of individuals end up taking up a lot of the resources. So they end up going frequently into the hospital system, where they end up going frequently into our jail system. Part of the design of some of our homelessness interventions are really to target those individuals and to try and get into a situation where they're not relying on, where they're not on the streets and where they're not going into emergency interventions

like this all the time that don't work. When you go into jail, you're often there for three days and you're right back on it on the street. It's not addressing the core issue that has brought you into that situation in the first place. But the challenge is that the system is not working very well. And in LA, one of the most frustrating things for me is that we don't, despite my best efforts in city council,

no one is in charge. No one is in charge of all of the hundreds of millions of dollars of spending that we're doing. No one is in charge of making sure that when people come into a shelter bed, that they're getting access to mental health or rehab or a referral or health services. The county is supposed to provide those, but the city should be asking for it and demanding it and providing it in the interim when they're not getting it. None of that work is happening. That's the work that I've tried to build,

but there's been real resistance within City Hall to actually building that out and really putting someone in charge of making sure every piece of this works. If you're mayor, can you change that? Yes, yeah. Why wouldn't Karen Bass be supportive about that? It's hard for me to answer why, why you wouldn't want to create order to a system that is incredibly fragmented. And I think if not, if it doesn't work, people will lose faith in it. Do you think there is corruption?

Like, because that, again, like, I'm sorry to keep bringing this up, but I do feel like Spencer is running on this fantasy that like a lot of people are into. But for me, I'm just like, it is a fantasy. The things that he's saying about corruption is do you, are you in alignment with that? Like, is that real? I will say that because no one is in charge and because there's so much money going into the system, I think that there is a lot of waste. So one of the things that I found was we were investing in shelter beds in the city, but we didn't have an accounting of, how many beds were full or empty on any given night? I pushed work to actually document that,

and our shelter bed occupancy moved from 80% to 94%. That was like 20% of the beds were empty at one point, which is waste, right? There's also been very real instances of fraud, which have been documented in the press and are very alarming. So I don't think fraud is everywhere, but there has been fraud, right? And so to me, what happens when you have a system like this where no one is in charge is that people are very willing to believe that it is full of fraud, and they lose trust in faith in the system.

And every instance of fraud that shows up ends up underscoring their lack of faith in the whole system. That's exactly what Spencer is kind of drawing on, right? That's the distrust that he's building on and drawing from. I'm a progressive. I really believe that government can do good things for people, and I believe in government being out there and addressing issues that the private markets are not addressing or that there's real harm in places and only the government can do it, you have to work really hard to make sure that the government is working. You know, you have to make sure that it's functional.

Otherwise, people will turn to this, you know, Pratt kind of mentality of just it's all fraud, it's all waste, get rid of it all. Right. You know, arrest everyone. That's the only way. forward. Even though that doesn't work, as your sister can probably attest to, right? It doesn't work. So like what is the real response? The real response is putting someone in charge, making sure every bed is filled, making sure everyone gets mental health treatment, making sure everyone gets case management. That's the work that we need to do. That's what I want to do. I want to be mayor

so I can work. Is there a world where each person has a devoted case manager? Because I'm a psych early myself as having had a bed in one of our LA hospitals for a crash out in my teens. I had a case manager, but then I would kind of just be jumped around a little bit. Is there a world in which we can actually afford one-on-one care for each individual, for the sickest of them? Right now, the way that the system works, the sickest people are supposed to be under the care of LA County. And a lot of that care is supposed to come through Medi-Cal, right? Or insurance in some way, right, through the health care system, because that's where that care is supposed to be provided. So those standards of care need to be much higher.

And that is a county system. Even in our shelter system, though, people need more care than they're getting. You have to show up. People need to be present physically once a week, at least, ideally more than that, at a shelter site talking to people for a long time during COVID, they weren't even doing in-person visits. Yeah, it's a little scary for me because I think about, let's suppose I'm a 19-year-old who, has just gotten diagnosed with schizophrenia. I'm new to my symptoms and I am not able to navigate my own medication compliance, my own appointments, my own paperwork, my own reality. It's like,

who then? If I don't have family support, like, what are my, what are my resources, right? Like, it's very, it's scary. It's very scary. So I, I've been looking across different service providers and some nonprofits that are doing the work are amazing. They hire. incredible staff, they train them well, they're really out there doing the work and you can see it in the numbers. And then there's others that don't. And they're not caring for people. And you can see that too. And a lot of people are returning to the streets. But again, you have to figure out who's doing the work and fund them. We had a question on this subject. Hi. Okay, so my girlfriend Gen Z. Yeah. My girlfriend is a case manager for high acuity homeless. Wow. So you know a lot about it.

Yeah. She and her co-workers experienced like a ton of burnout. So would you consider posing a budget that increases pay? The people that are actually like working on the front lines come home exhausted. Yeah. Working with these populations, there's so much burnout because they're not seeing people really get helped some of the times. So I'm just curious about that. It is. I really feel. for our workforce in homeless services, and I have actually pushed for higher salaries, both to address the thanklessness of the job and how exhausting it is and how hard it is,

but also very practically to retain our workforce and to make sure that our workforce is also not experiencing homelessness. Like we've had people who are working for nonprofits who are using the services themselves because the pay was so low, which is just like, what are we doing? at the reality of L.A., I'd really do feel as though all of us are one missed paycheck away from being in this exact situation. So it's like, this could happen to anyone. And I just want to take a step back here and underscore that our homelessness crisis is deeply intertwined with our lack of housing. And we have not built housing in L.A. for decades. We've underbuilt apartments. We have a shortage of something like 500,000 apartments in L.A. We've actually stopped the construction. of new housing through our planning regulations in the past.

For decades, we didn't allow exactly the kind of housing that young people need, that working families need to be built across most of Los Angeles. Why is that? You go to other cities and there's so much high-density urban housing and high rises. L.A. just feels like I only ever see luxury, mixed use, poor-story housing that, like, ends up sitting half empty. Right, right. So in L.A. in the 80s, really in the 80s, there was a real movement against density.

And it was called the anti-manhatanization effort. They did not want the city to look like New York, right? And that's why we have so little of it. And that's why along our major boulevards, they actually put forward a measure that was spearheaded by two elected officials who realized that they could win a lot of votes if they didn't. if they also oppose new housing, so they put something on the ballot that actually brought down density along all of our major thoroughfares and our main roads. So that's why Wilshire Boulevard, Ventura Boulevard, you see a lot of single-story strip mall construction. And as a direct result of that legislation that they put on the ballot at that time and passed, we ended up not building hundreds

of thousands of units, and now we have that exact number as the shortage of housing units. And it has led to a deep, deep affordability crisis. Like, housing is really expensive here. And this city is not, like a lot of people in the city are not very rich, right? This is a city of real diversity. There's a lot of poverty here. And so we have the fewest homes per adult of any major city in America and the highest rent burden population. I door knocked a lot for you in your first campaign for CD4. Yeah. And it was such an illuminating experience. And I feel like so many of these same issues. issues are still here, like a lack of affordable housing, a lack of available shelter beds. And what gives?

Like, what is it with the NIMBYs and the people that don't want to build more housing, build more shelters? Like, is this a uniquely L.A. thing? And what have you found actually being in office? Like, what is this resistance all about? So I think that there has been, we've, you know, tripled the shelter available in council district four, which is great. That's why we were able to address so many people, so many encampments on the streets, which is really exciting. I think there is a growing awareness

that in order to meet the moment, in order to address the challenges that we have, in order to make this into a city of opportunity going forward, that L.A. has to change, that we need more housing. And I think that's become much more part of the conversation. And in, you know, I played a small role in that in running on it twice and talking about these issues and telling a district that's sometimes has opposed new housing, actually we need it. And more and more people are saying, yes, we do need it because we're feeling the impacts of it every single day. And so I think slowly the culture is changing in L.A. And I think all of us and our approach to these issues are part of that change. And by the way, this is not unique to Los Angeles across California.

You're seeing this kind of resistance and you're seeing the impacts of it. And it also has national implications because we're losing population in California. We're going to lose congressional seats and the states that are building more are getting more congressional seats. So the balance of power across the entire country, I think, depends on us being able to accommodate more people here. I think your cash-up card should be just a big picture of me smiling. No. No, but you promise. I was actually thinking the opposite of that. Me sad? Maybe Dave, Dave, doing something fun. No, it'd be a picture of the two of us. Guys, we love Cash App. Cash App just released a new status program for the way people actually spend called Cash App Green. It unlocks new ways for you to pay, get rewarded,

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Yeah, it's been shameful that we've kind of watched the film and television industry leave the city and not been fighting for it. And it, you know, it's obviously incredibly important to me and my family. family, the idea of what Los Angeles is is deeply intertwined with the entertainment industry. I think we should be doing much more to fight for this industry. Part of it is just being better advocates with the state. The state has a tax credit program. That tax credit program was significantly lower than other states across the country. We needed a much better one.

Last year, they increased it a little bit, which is good. and it definitely brought more productions back, but we need a tax credit with no cap. We need one that's guaranteed years into the future. And I think it's incumbent upon LA leadership to tell Sacramento and to tell our governor what we need. You know, this mayor has not done that or didn't do that until I got in the race.

You know, that's what we need to be absolutely advocating for in order to make sure that productions can stay here because even now with an increased credit, it's still a lottery. productions can't count on shooting in LA and we absolutely need to be able to count on shooting in California and shooting in Los Angeles. The city can also do a lot more to make it easier to film here. We right now have an approach to filming that takes it for granted. You know, it's always happened here and so that we have high fees, we have slow permitting timelines,

we have neighborhood conditions that can stop productions from filming. Like sometimes when you shoot in a particular neighborhood, you have to pay the homeowners association a fee in that neighborhood. And all of that needs to change in order for us to be able to retain filming. It has to be cheaper, faster, easier, smaller productions. Many of them don't even need, shouldn't even need permits to shoot here. I mean, if it's a small enough production, you should just be able to shoot. That would be amazing. Yeah, that would be so cool.

But much like homelessness, it's such a multi, it's like a hydra issue, right? Like, entertainment has been taken over by tech, and it's now become about the bottom line and squeezing every penny and doing things for as cheaply as possible. Like one thing I've really noticed about this race is and the way that people are engaging with the race is there's so much anger. And a lot of that anger is really justified. I mean, I feel like Esther and Kalila Khalila have both touched on it. Thank you.

Have both touched on it, right? It's anger around the fires. I mean, that's like a huge part of Spencer's campaign. And it's an understandable anger. We all empathize with him and empathize with. people that have lost their homes, anger around the film and television industry and, like, where people's lives are and how they've noticed around homelessness. But all of these issues are so complicated and so complex.

And it's not, back to what Esther was saying, it's not a fantasy or an AI ad or saying, like, we're going to clean up the homelessness because we're angry. Right. It's like, I want to believe that, but it's so fake. Hell hath no fury, like a blonde man who had something taken away from him, by the way. He's really just, on our show, we really, we believe that blonde men are the root of all evil. I can get behind that. Yeah, they're scary.

Yeah, it's sort of a, like, reverse Hitler. Like, I don't like Aryan men. Prefer brunettes, just like as a global. I had a question when I was just looking recently at the L.A. budget. You can tell me if these are up today, but I got these from the L.A. City Controller. And I was just curious, like, where do you think we're underspending and, you know, where do you think that we're overspending? And what does a more balanced budget look like to you? Whoa, that's a big, big green chunk right there. And also, is this big green chunk too big?

That says police. Three, three billion dollars. And on the other side, it does say 24%. So I was just wondering if maybe it's, you know, public safety response is one of the city's most important responses. You know, I think when, when you don't respond to calls for help, when you don't respond to 911 calls quickly, this loss of faith that you both are identifying, oh, all three of you are identifying the loss of trust in government is so real and i've heard that so many times like

you call 911 no one picks up or no one shows up and yeah i hear that they're like they took they came six hours later yeah and i think that feeling of being let down by your city is especially when you're feeling risk or danger is really really not is we cannot have that and we pay a lot we pay taxes. I try to get my money's worth by using the library, but I need more. You know, that's the role of the mayor is to really be the point person for emergency response to rally. The mayor is the chief executive of the city, and it is their responsibility to bring together the systems to be able to respond to these issues quickly. I'm seeing something concerning on this. If you could zoom in on that section says Esther's Airwan budget. It's taking up a large portion

University's budget. It's a pre-new-scan budget. But are there any places in particular that you'd like to see an increase or, you know. Yeah. So I had, you know, one of the reasons why this chart is so big on PD is because we had a new police contract that was signed in 23. The driver of each of these is really the size of the contract that you're getting. And in 2023, the mayor signed a new contract with PD that gave them more money really than the city even had, which I pushed back against. I voted against.

I believe all city workers should, you know, I think city workers should be paid. And its cost of living is very high here. Like I'm not, you know, not opposing that at all. But we have to be able to pay what's fiscally responsible for the city. And the contract was absolutely enormous. And it led to this enormous. fiscal deficit for LA last year, like a billion dollar budget deficit that we then had to grapple with. Why did she do that?

The police union is a very powerful force in local politics. And in Mayor Bass's previous election, they had funded Caruso and had spent against her. And this time, they're spending against me because I pushed back against what I thought was irresponsible spending. So the police union, like, donates. to her campaign basically. They spend through PACs, like independent expenditures, basically. Okay.

Yeah. So it's just like shady stuff that we see everywhere. We're like they're paying for that so that she'll give them a big contract. It's a lot of how local politics works is that people who are funding kind of packs and independent expenditure committees for supporting political candidates end up having decisions made that benefit them. Do you have any of that? I mean, they just gave you a banana. Do you have to report that?

Yeah. That's really sketchy. I have the entire banana budget. I want to get into this tiny little sliver of the pie, which is animal services. I've been a foster here in L.A. I foster dogs. And Esther maybe will tell you too many, too much. It's really getting there. Yeah. She was fostering a raven at one point. Oh, you don't have to foster those, babe. I know, I don't. They take care of themselves. I just give it a couple. So I've been fostering dogs all around Los Angeles and cats for well over a decade. I've pulled dogs from the shelters myself.

I've rehabbed them. I've intercepted dogs from even entering the shelter system just because I know how pressed they are over there. And let's be honest, like there is no such thing as a no-kill shelter. They're all killed shelters. And a lot of dogs get euthanized daily. And I have one in my care right now from the Downey Shelter. Can you take it? That's my question.

Will you a dog? If I don't win this race, I will. Thank you. My parents. My kids are begging us for a dog. I think my perception is I think how a city treats animal welfare says a lot about how it treats vulnerability in general. I want to know where you stand and what is your actual philosophy around animal welfare here in Los Angeles. We don't have a shelter in my district, the council district four that I represent, but we've done.

dog adoption events. We just did a posa-palooza at Griffith Park. I think it's the third year that we've done it. We bring a spay and neuter truck there. We've really pushed to try and ensure that we're doing more in the district to help animals and help animal welfare. But citywide, I think this issue has been really neglected. The shelters are underfunded and they have been for many years and that's a place where I really I want to make sure that we are funding them much more, that we're ensuring that they have the staffing that they need. The department also needs better leadership for a long time. A general manager had been in place who was not aligned with true animal care. And I think we need to be able to appoint leadership in the department who has the

capacity to be able to manage the system, who has a capacity to be able to engage with the huge network of volunteers and nonprofits who care deeply about this issue to ensure that the system is working well, who can ensure that any gaps in care are actually being provided for through philanthropic efforts. Like, you need a real visionary in that role. And I'm excited to, if I'm mayor, to be able to appoint someone who can really do the job. I'm boots on the ground in this department, just because I've been a foster for so long. And I think that, you know, my question. She was when she was younger. So that's kind of the pipelines. Are you going to say that she? Thank you. Thank you. Mayer, can you make it so Esther doesn't do that?

anymore. You know, and I think that, you know, people who work in, you know, animal welfare are very vocal because I feel like, you know, these dogs don't have a voice. These cats, these animals, like cannot speak up. Yeah, your voice for the voiceless. Right. And so is there a world in which the city can actually see this as a core issue and not treat it as an afterthought, which it's felt like for however long? Yeah. I believe very strongly that the city can see this as a core issue. And, you know, For me, ensuring that we're able to take care of animals that are in our care should be as important to us as caring for, you know, caring about the issue of homelessness. Like these are issues that really matter for Angelinos and these are issues that deserve funding. These are issues that deserve attention.

What scares you about a Spencer Pratt mayor, L.A.? Oh my God. A lot. He has a contract with a production company and he started filming a reality show already. Is that true? Yeah, his whole mayoral journey is being filmed. And if he wins, part of the contract stipulates that the reality show will continue. I mean, this is just so clearly one.

Yeah, and it's Trumpian. It's overused and like cliche to say that. And it's one man on a quest to enrich himself and get himself more than the, public conversation and become a bigger figure. And this is also back to the whole animal welfare thing because this is a platform that he's really kind of like, you know, fake championing, right? Like I don't necessarily see Spencer Pratt like doing any kind of public service for animals. That's his whole thing.

When has he done any public service in his entire life? This is his whole like I've seen people really rally especially in like for him because it's like the animals, the animals and I and I get that. like I'm part of that community as well, but it's like he has no actual track record of doing any kind of like real work or real service towards this issue that they care so much about. Or towards any issue. Right. Like it's very clear to me right now that we have a very broken status quo in L.A.

Yeah. That has let down so many people across so many fronts so deeply. And then you have this person who is this kind of reality TV star who has. these pronouncements that I will solve it. And I think at this moment when people are feeling so much frustration, so much fear, so much anxiety about this moment, that can seem very attractive. And I understand that. He's tapping into frustration, but he's also tapping into, I think, someone to say,

yes, I can solve this. You know, I just feel like we have a moment right now here in L.A. where that kind of message, because people feel so let down by their city, we have a moment when that message can have a lot of purchase. And that is really scary to me because I don't think there is an experience, there's the experience to actually deliver on results. And we've seen what happens nationwide when that kind of, you know, yes, I'll fix this. I'll do this. I'll do that. That's exactly the same message that and the same energy that I think Trump tapped into. And then he does the opposite of like what they promise. And I don't even think I'm,

that smart but why am I able to see this and some people can't see it people are looking for a quick fix and historically when economies are on the down or like times are tough people gravitate towards fascism or gravitate towards these candidates who no who put the bulls shut her down my spine frustrations and put the blame on someone like it's so much easier just to say Karen Bass is why I live in a trailer when it's like, no, there's a lot of complex reasons why the fire happened and why the response was so horrible and let so many people down. But it's just so appealing when you're so angry to jump on a bandwagon of hate and blame and these sound bites and pronouncements.

But I think city government is complex. And I'd always rather put my undying support behind someone who's fought the fight. was on the front lines, the experience and the leadership and the team to make the city a better place. Yeah. And I think anyone who says that this is going to be easy is lying. That's the reality. That should be the biggest red flag of all. Anyone who says that this is going to be easy as lying. Like we have a budget crisis that, you know, we're in this now for a set of decisions that I didn't agree with, but we are here. We have a budget crisis. We have a real challenge in our, you know, economy. We have a real challenge with housing. We have a real challenge with homelessness and access

to mental health and recovery and how do we support people who are desperately in need of support in the recovery process. All of these are very real challenges. None of them have an easy answer. What I want to do, what I'm committing in my race is really to say, like, I will do the work. and that is what this city to me needs more than anything is just someone who is here to work relentlessly to address these issues not to be there for political gain like I'm not running for higher office after that I don't have filming a reality show that I am doing but I that aside I have a question about like just politicians in general including Karen Bass is it a big no-no for her to say like hey I fucked up royally here and I'm so freaking sorry

I don't, because I feel like I would be so endeared to a politician or anybody in office just saying like, yo, I thought this would work and it's not my bad. Let's like, you know, get back to the drawing board. And I feel like I don't hear that enough. And so everything feels so like dishonest and like kind of like we're just in this huge pageant of saying the right things. Look, I have stood up and said I was wrong. It was hard and I got a lot of flack for it and stood up against my former, my allies and said, I think we were all wrong. They didn't agree with me. And it was painful. It still continues to be painful. I've broken relationships as a result of that. So I think it is, it's not easy to do that. And I understand why people don't want to.

But personally, that's what I would prefer. Me too. Is someone who can stand up and say. And I think you guys too, right? Absolutely. Everyone I feel like is sick of the politiciany answers. And that's why someone like Pratt can sneak his way in or all the grifters. seem to exist in politics now.

What scares me is like we have these dumb ass Olympics coming up. Oh wait, I have so much beef with this. This is my next topic. I had a whole page on it. It's obviously a bad idea, but it's like too late. We have to make the best of it.

First off, can you not say dumb ass Olympics? Because like, the Olympics is like my whole, I remember in sixth grade, no, it was 1998 Atlanta Olympics. I built a whole scrapbook of every single event. We can appreciate the, what's that. We can appreciate the, international significance and pageantry of the Olympics while also acknowledging the ruin that

they can bring upon an already challenged city. And both truths can exist. Wait, but I think what you're, I'm about to, I have so much beef with LA Olympics too. Well, I'm just scared of having someone who doesn't know what they're doing or who is already fucked up major shit, like being, like overseeing the Olympics. Because the Olympics are scary. Well, I'll say this. That's crowds.

I put my big girl panties and you know I have ADHD. And you know I don't get a lot of shit done on time. What I did do on time was I submitted my Olympic ticket request early. Wait, you're going to go. Wait, no, listen to this bullshit. Nitha, you can give me your two cents in a second. So I got selected for a purchase time, a purchase window. Here's my purchase window.

I got my alerts. I was like, here's your chance, Kalila. You're going to go see swimming. You've been a swimmer your whole life. You're going to watch a 200 meter butterfly. You're going to watch track. You've never been to actually see an Olympic event. They're going to be in your butt.

backyard. Here's your chance. Put all my alarms on. I'm hearing that you're going for a lot of really popular sports. Caroline, it's my very expensive. I feel like it's my inherent right. Okay. Okay. As an Angelino. As a, as a ground level Angelino. No, there are promises that Angelinos would get early access to tickets. Right, right, right. So I go in, I log in. The cheapest ticket I could find. Yeah, you got to go see skateboarding in the Balboa at this appalvinan. If you want to get a affordable tickets. Was a $400 ticket for an event I didn't even want to see. If you want to go see rimmed dancing in Pekoyama, I can get your tickets for $10.

And then the worst part of it all is, okay, number one, is this acceptable for Angelinos? Number two, they say, well, if you really want to watch it, you can volunteer. So I'm going to bring. You love the Olympics so much. Maybe you should put on a bib and outshare people do their seats. That's not a bad idea. I'm just really incredibly mad. Because the city is obviously going to absorb the traffic, the infrastructure strain, like all of these things, just so that I have to watch it on TV really pisses me off.

Because I thought this was my chance, Carolette, 42 years old. No, it's really, they are, the tickets are really expensive. But who is this for? It's supposed to be for us and for the world, right? It's supposed to be for inviting the world. And we have signed up for it. It is happening. We have a contract with LA 28.

We can't back out of that. No. No. Yes. Who sets the prices? LA 28 does. But here's the thing that I think the city has to balance right now, which is that the contract that we signed with the Olympics,

which was signed well before I was long before I even thought about running for office, is one that basically says that if the Olympics runs over cost, that the city of Los Angeles is on the hook for those cost overages. For the first $275 million. dollars. Then the state when the state is on the hook for the next 275 and then after that anything over that we're on the hook for. I see why

there's so much fraud because we'd be like 275 million. What's one million who's going to care? Yeah but it's you know it's a lot especially as we already have a very you know a very tight budget right now. We're already funding less in services.

We're not able to fix streetlights. We're not able to fix potholes because of how badly the can't even neuter. you're raven. We're not funding animal services. I mean, it's like we are not funding some of the most essential services in L.A. because of our fiscal crisis, which we're already in.

And now if we don't, one of the big things that I worry about is if we don't make enough money from the Olympics, that then the cost of that, the debt from that will have to come back to Angelina's to pay. So that's what dictates the prices then? It's not the only thing. Isn't it a private company, L.A. 28? LA 28 dictates their prices, but they're trying to price it so that they're able to make enough money so that they're not. Then why the fake show of being like, hey, Angelinos, sign up.

Just kidding. You won't see a single event except for that one in Pequine. You are looking at, with all due respect, Kyle. You are talking about more popular events that historically are more expensive at Olympics in every city. But I've done the math. So it would have been cheaper for me to fly internationally to any of the previous Olympics and watch multiple events there. Have a friend going to see Rosalia in Miami

as opposed to Rosalia in L.A. because it's cheaper. This is a thing. It doesn't feel fair for the everyday Angelino to have this in our backyard, the people who cannot travel internationally or have those resources to like, you know, see this international event, right?

And now it's here and like none of us are going to go. I would argue that the Olympics are not for the everyday Angelino and there to... Oh, that sucks. Because the sports itself comes from, the athletes themselves come from... They're not... It shouldn't be a luxury event.

Yeah. It is outrageous that the costs are this high. It is really outrageous. And I think one of the things that I have been very worried about is what are we actually doing to monitor the costs that LA28 is putting up as a result of this? What are they investing in? Are they appropriate expenditures? Are they frivolous expenditures? Like the helicopters?

Do you guys know what I'm talking about? There was like this big news story about these special traffic evading helicopters that are going to be put into use. Is that something that LA28 is paying for? Oh, my goodness. You've got a fact check. You've not even hear about this. Okay. Pull up the helicopters.

It's like such a non-solution. But it's also like it sucks that the tickets are expensive. But the trickle down is so much. But it's bad because yes, we are going to have to deal with the events being here. It's going to be a big burden for the city. It trickles down to the most vulnerable people and are no, definitely not either. You guys. It's very much not you guys.

It's, you know, the unhoused and like the trickle-down effects are really. Yeah, it's going to be, I think it is going to be scary stuff. It could be, it definitely could be scary. I think it requires significantly more management. It requires engagement with LA 28 to see what are they spending on. Are these expenditures appropriate? Because we're eventually going to have to bear the cost of overspending, right? So it requires that kind of engagement.

And also we need to be making sure that Angelinos can go to these events. Yeah. Like we need more cheap tickets. to make sure Angelinos can access them. Yeah, I agree with you. It is, it feels very, very alienating to have this big event in our backyard and not be able to experience it. I will volunteer, though, just to be clear, I've already signed up to volunteer. But my hope is also that we can have community, both two kinds of things that I, that can ameliorate some of this. One is, can we have real community events, maybe watch parties, maybe events in public spaces across the city

that are inviting Angelinos in and creating a sense of community and togetherness around events that we're all excited about. And I think that would be amazing. And we're doing some of that. We're doing the prep for that. I would love to see much more. And if I'm mayor,

I'll be laser focused on ensuring that that happens and that we're doing it not just where the Olympics venues are, but across the entire city. So the entire city feels like they can participate in and celebrate an event that's happening here. The second is, what is the legacy? Like, what are we getting afterwards? Is there more trees that are being planted?

Are there, you know, walking and biking infrastructure that's put in? Was L.A. greatly improved after the last Olympics here? For many reasons, that was a very unusual Olympics. But they did leave a big legacy for L.A. Will we get some of that? We might. Again, we have to push for it. No new stadiums or structures were built.

There was some thoughtfulness. I remember around like when the Olympics were announced. And obviously, like, was it in a time? transit first. Like there was this whole transit initiative that sort of. Yes, it was supposed to be a car free Olympics. Now it's a but I guess the left side is like was part of the acceleration of the D line because of the Olympics. So we yeah, the city, the county actually voted for an effort to build more transit in advance of the Olympics and the D line was funded through that tax. And that's wonderful. And that is a big legacy that we have. I have to say, seeing the way the city has galvanized around the D line and how it brought out

this kind of unified joy unilaterally positive joy oh the new train line down a huge a huge subway line was built from it basically goes downtown in beverly hills seeing as you are running for mayor of l. we were hoping to get some recommendations from you on your favorite l.A. places first of all rapid fire best place to get street tacos alexandras kesa diaz okay they're so good And it's like blue corn with quid la coche. And it's near the parking lot. You know where that municipal parking lot is on behind sunset? I went there recently and it's so good.

So good. I don't eat meat. So like I can't go to every street taco stand. Fair. Best concert venue or favorite. You know, the Hollywood Bowl. Love the bowl. Favorite bar or a club?

Oh. Like to go out, dancing, night out. I need this answer from you. I don't, I can't even know. Not anyone on any of these couches can answer this question. I'll tell you, my favorite cocktail right now is at Miratei in Los Feles. They have a can't a paloma, which is like really the best poloma I've ever had. And it's weirdly it's canned, but it is so good.

Favorite beach. Oh, interesting. I just like going to the beach in Santa Monica, like whatever is the easiest, honestly. I just take the tent all the way down and I'm there. Spoken like a true east cider. Yeah. Whatever's closest. I'm not, yeah, we don't go.

I don't go. Too far. When my kids were little, that was like the way that we would entertain them was that we would drive over to the beach. And it was hours of hours. Because you can just let them run free. It's a huge sandbox. Yeah. And they could just do, you know, whatever.

Will you take my daughter to the beach? Yes, I'll take her. All right. Next. Street vendors. Oh, street vendors. I went to an amazing. night market in Chinatown recently and had these incredible, I don't even know what they are,

but I think they're like a Thai treat, but they're coconut milk and flour. That sounds good. Already with a coconut milk. Yeah. Flower? But they're very good. I wish I could, I wish I knew what they were called. But the night market in Chinatown, I think it's on Friday nights. I love Chinatown. And this is the last one. Do you have an underrated outdoor hidden gem? So, you know, I represent Griffith Park. So obviously I love, I love Griffith. park a huge amount and I love the Tom LaBange Panorama which is a hike that you can do Tom LaBange. That's right old city council member but for again since we're also kid focused here I like Debs Park where you can hike up and there's turtles and it's a very easy hike and there's a swing for kids it's

really like no it's on the east side oh okay and that was the last one great wrecks Yes. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your campaign for us. Where can people go if they want to support or contribute to the campaign? Yes, Nithia for the city.com, but really there's two weeks before the primary. So just vote if you haven't voted. Send in your ballots. Send in your ballots.

Spread the word. Things can be better here. Things can be better. Things can be better. Let's fight for a better future for LA. I believe it. I believe it. So you guys your civic responsibility to vote.

We cannot, we cannot succumb to. Blond men. Oh, okay. We will see you guys next week with a brand new episode. Thank you, at the end, Caroline.