TRASHFUTURE - Game of Slurs: International Worst Columnists Invitational Part 2 (feat. Boonta Vista)

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

In a continuation of last week’s episode, Riley (@raaleh), Hussein (@HKesvani), and Milo (@Milo_Edwards) join guests Andrew Law (@IllyBocean) and Lucy Valentine (@LucyXIV) from Boonta Vista Socialis...t Club (@BoontaVista) for a roundup of terrible right-wing columnists in the land of our terrible Commonwealth forebears. We absolutely, positively saved the best (worst) for last. You should definitely follow Boonta Vista — we had a great time putting this episode together and appreciate their patience, as we are sloppy boys. You can commodify your dissent with a t-shirt from http://www.lilcomrade.com/. You can also purchase useful kitchen implements from our socialist cookware sponsor, Vremi (https://vremi.com/). Nate (@inthesedeserts) produced this under deep cover (and in a state of Sharia compliance) from the no-go zone of Southwark.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everyone, this is Nate again. As you recall from last week, the boys had a little too much fun and wound up going really really long, so we cut this episode into two segments. If you missed last weeks, it's probably easier to start with that one to understand what's coming next. However, for those of you long suffering and extremely punctual listeners, here is part two of our terrible Anglophone conservative columnist roundup with Andrew and Lucy from Buna Vista Socialist Club.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I want to introduce the listeners, the international gang, to our boy, a certain legend, a king among kings. His name is Brendan O'Neill. Yes, it's your boy Brendan O'Neill. I was trying to draft very specific jokes and I wasn't really able to do it. Now, there were probably several reasons for that, right? The first one is that potentially Brendan O'Neill is beyond parody. If there was a factory producing dipshit conservative columnists, he would basically be Model 1.
Starting point is 00:01:35 If this was like Evangelion, he would be Unit 01, the original one. He's like the Russian Jager from Pacific Rim. We were looking at some columns from another Australian dipshit lightweight columnist, Daisy Cousins. She started writing these columns for Penthouse and they're extremely dumb. I don't know if they meant to be mildly titillating somehow, but really stupid. I was searching for one of these to look for it and it came up with the opinion page of Penthouse.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It was all articles by Daisy Cousins. What are their opinions? Helen Dale. Oh, just like her one was like, try dating a right-wing girl. We're sexy and we'll shit out a bunch of kids for you. Again, we'll call you any slur you like. We're beautiful, normie, tradwives. So there's Helen Dale, who's like a psycho Australian libertarian who got caught plagiarizing
Starting point is 00:02:41 like a whole novel that she won a literary award for and stealing tweets and she's always stealing like tweets and Facebook posts and she still says she still publishes like weird books now and she still puts like winner of the Miles Franklin Book Award or whatever on her things, even though that was the one that she like plagiarized the whole book for. And Brendan O'Neill, tons of Brendan O'Neill articles in Penthouse and I was like, clearly this is just the place for these fucking people to get like something published for 150 bucks because no one else will run an article of theirs in an actual publication. We hand selected this Brendan O'Neill article specifically for you because it's the most
Starting point is 00:03:32 Brendan O'Neill article ever written. So before we get there, I think we need to kind of add some more context to Brendan, right? So Brendan O'Neill, like if you could think of every type of conservative dipshit take, Brendan O'Neill has probably said it at least once, right? Yeah. So that'll range from everything like the free market is good just because to Fedora is a good just because to those like, you know, every, every type of sorry, my brain is kind of fried but it's like every time every kind of like dipshit conservative take like Brendan
Starting point is 00:04:06 O'Neill was on it. Yeah. The thing that he kind of his like, his, his giant like Yu-Gi-Oh! shield in the discourse is free speech, right? So he's jumped on the same wagon as like every other like right wing conservative like dipshit to say that he's actually like a free speech warrior and the thing that he really loves is defending people's free speech regardless of whether he likes the points that people make or not.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Unless. Unless. And here's where we get to the kids, where we get to the article. Unless it comes to Brendan O'Neill and his relationship with Slurs, right? Brendan O'Neill doesn't like Slurs. He doesn't like playing the Slurs game at the kitchen table. You know, for him, that's the fucking red line. You don't use Slurs, right?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Everything else is fine. You could just say this, sounds like a coward to me. You know, Brendan O'Neill's like, you know, yeah, you can seduce my wife if you want to. Yeah, you can, you can, but you can make fun of the fact that I wear a fedora in public settings and the only song on my, on my Spotify is, is, is just, I'm just down with the sickness. You know, you can say all that shit. You can say all that shit, but you better, you better not use a Slurring. You know what the Slur, but Brendan O'Neill hates the most.
Starting point is 00:05:27 What is it? What is it? Is it the n-word? It's got to be white, white male, isn't it? There we go, Brendan O'Neill, Brendan O'Neill, it's like, it's like black male, but much more friendly. Brendan O'Neill hates, Brendan O'Neill hates people referring to him and other people as quote unquote, white men.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Oh my goodness. This is like, this is my favorite shit when people try to act like it's, it's the same as all the other Slurs now. Like it's just, it's just as damaging. So, so, so I tweeted, I tweeted this out a couple of weeks ago because I just saw it, I just saw it circulating on Twitter and I found it kind of funny. I was like, well, what, what, what, what would you like us to call you, Brendan? Oh, like, like, I'm, like, I'm pretty confused here and, you know, and, you know, it did,
Starting point is 00:06:20 it did like a decent amount of numbers. There were like some kind of people like the spiked, the spiked idiots who were like, oh, why don't you just like refer to him as a person, right? As if like, that's what we do and there's no other form of like, identify, like, you know, individual identification for people that you don't like, for people like you don't know. Yeah, except, except, except, except for in Canada, if like the police, if the police like, if the police pull you over, they refer to you by your full Christian name and the
Starting point is 00:06:52 nickname that your grandma gave you because they believe that every person is their own little special, a little special star. It's true. And that's what Brendan O'Neill wants. He wants people to refer to him by the same type of nickname his grandma referred to him as. Of course. He's free speech warrior, Brendan.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So I've got the article up here. There's a lot of like dumb shit, which you kind of need to read the whole thing for. So I'm going to read like a couple of sections. Give us the highlights. So after he kind of goes through like some shit about like why, you know, he loves Simon Jenkins so much or whatever, you know, I'm just going to skip to the end because like the rest of it's kind of like all of it's boring. So you know how I said at the beginning that like basically it's like every single like
Starting point is 00:07:42 conservative take. So it mentions like pretty much everything from like, you know, something, something Brexit, something I don't like Guardian writers. The politics of identity by contrast is separatist, fatalistic, dividing us into biological, racial and gender boxes and telling us we will never truly understand each other. And then he ends the piece by saying, I refuse to I refuse to define myself as a quote unquote white man, because I want to discover what I have in common with others, whatever their skin color or gender, I'm interested in the universal, not the particular, but then you
Starting point is 00:08:21 can discount everything I've just said because I have a penis and I was born and I was born to white parents. My race voids my argument. This is the world we live in. Oh, boy, shooters, shoot, Brennan O'Neill coming out as aboriginal. Brennan O'Neill, he is a POC, poor old. Sad, Brendan. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Sad mayonnaise, boy. That's a major Joe Rogan shit, isn't it? That's incredible. He loves the Joe Rogan show too. I think he's like pining to go on. Like he kind of like adds Joe Rogan every so often. So like you can sort of tell like, you know, where his next step is. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:13 No, Brendan O'Neill is definitely going to like do DMT and then like come back and be like, I just realized that all skin colors are beautiful and history never happened. Because that's just it. That's just that's why I find this take so frustrating, because it appeals this like sense of universalism that just that is, you know, intellectually palatable to a spectator reader who doesn't want to think that, you know, they're racist, which they've conflated with basically being rude as opposed to anything structural. And they're like, yeah, I'm not racist because I don't I don't play the
Starting point is 00:09:46 game of slurs in public. And it's like, it's like, it's like kind of saying that, like, you know, I'm not racist, I'm not racist because I've never used the N word on a public in a public platform or on a dinner table on a public highway. And that might end up the refuse and like my refusal to accept my daughter's black boyfriend is because is because of his lack of education. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's kind of like that's kind of, you know, the spectator, not Monclo, right? Exactly. I mean, I'm sure all the black people at home, you know, they have slurs, too. They talk about not being able to find a white guy in a pile of salt, you know? Sure, that shit happened. Look, the game of slurs is inclusive. It's just like game of thrones, but just everyone's saying the game of slurs. You win or you lose your nationally syndicated radio show.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But it's because it's the whole whole thing is like, it's like, it's like it's in the 19th at some way, the end of the 19th in the middle of the 20th century, rather, it's like the UK, US, Canada, Australia, we all were like, OK, we have to not be overtly genocidally racist. And then the conservatives are like, oh, come on, we want to. And they're like, no, you got to kind of stop. But because the settlement was was based on universalism, rather than any understanding of history, it basically gives idiots like Brendan O'Neill and his
Starting point is 00:11:09 followers the kind of intellectual oxygen to write this claim, because it never recognizes that race actually was important for a long time and historically determined a lot of what goes on now. But because we were just like, no, everyone has to. It's like, OK, why don't we just say no, no, just race doesn't matter now. It's yeah, I mean, it's kind of like in some ways, it's this very weird kind of Blair years, playground type of stuff. And, you know, it's kind of like this generation that's kind of in.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know, it's kind of like this thing he must have been brought up. At least like when I was when I was kind of in school, which was like, well, everyone is equal, right, which means that like, you don't talk about race, you don't talk about, you know, you don't consider like things like race and sexuality in in the context of like how people interact with each other and the experiences of people. Because, you know, we've grown up to think that everyone is equal. You know, it's kind of like what's that kind of satirist
Starting point is 00:12:03 parables in like GCSE economics, right? I like something that you kind of know from the beginning, like is an impossible scenario, but you do, but you kind of accept it in theoretical terms. These are people who are like, you know, trying to kind of, you know, mainstream the idea that like, as, as, you know, as, as has been said, like, you know, history doesn't matter and like lineages, the lineages don't matter and like all that stuff because everyone is like equal in their eyes and it's like a very convenient way to kind of ignore external problems
Starting point is 00:12:38 or kind of really avoid introspection when it comes to how, you know, how you process or analyze your behavior in like historical in historical context, right? Exactly. Yeah, it's, it's like as soon as conversations have started happening about like structural racism, all of a sudden people like, no, no, no, we're all, we're all on the same level. Everybody's fine. We're all on the same page.
Starting point is 00:13:05 None of this stuff exists. It matters as long as we all say that we have the same rules going forward. Yeah, just, it just seeks to completely deny everything that's come before this point and how it's influenced where we're at and what's happening. Yeah. And it's, it's a weird kind of try and have it both ways. Like you want to, and this, and this is really branded and stick, right? Because like one of his other like, you know, free columns that he's been
Starting point is 00:13:27 like programmed to write, involves like, you know, like, you know, standing the working class, right? Like he kind of like really romanticizes this like false idea of like, you know, the working class kind of, you know, joining in solidarity with their pitchforks, you know, to vote for Brexit and stuff like that. Like, you know, this is the, this is a man who kind of has built, you know, supposedly has built a career out of rejecting identity politics, but he spends every third week like jacking off to the idea of, you know, families
Starting point is 00:14:00 in like Gainsborough or somewhere, all meeting, all meeting at like the same pub to talk about their grievances against like the London elite and the guardian, like columnists of the guardian. Well, he fetishizes the social conservatism of the working class, basically. Like that's his whole thing. He's like, his whole thing is the working class doesn't want your handouts, London Liberals. What they want is the ability to play a game of slurs in a public park,
Starting point is 00:14:25 like our grandfathers did, right? Like, it's, he, well, maybe it's like a new prime minister. So we, we got ourselves another new prime minister the other day. You guys get those all the time. Yeah, we got sick of that one. Got a fresh one in. Got a new one. So anyway, yeah, Brendan is having a normal one as usual.
Starting point is 00:14:46 He, he, he is like, well, he is our most regular columnist. Absolutely. Having a normal one, being extremely offended about being called one. And in that sense, like he's, he's an extreme, he's an extremely normal and regular columnist because he will in fact never die because he, because he is a machine, because he's a machine who's been programmed to write exactly three columns. Look, let me, let me just say, as a person of color, and yes, the color is white.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yes, the color is white, but like Brendan, like Brendan, I am also. Like I, I will never stop being just fucking flummoxed by people who try to act like it's, it's hurtful or like it, just like it carries any kind of weight to just call somebody white or even, or even the things that are like nominally slurs for white people, like cracker and honky and shit like that. All the sort of stuff that is just like, yeah, when, oh, if you, if you live in a society that has just been structured around giving all the easiest paths to you and your race and all that sort of stuff, there is just, it
Starting point is 00:16:03 carries no kind of weight or anything. The only reason you can be getting fucking bent out of shape over it is if you think there's something to it, like, yeah, if, if in your mind you're having a little race war and somebody calls you white. No, these guys all live just in absolute fear. And the thing is like, these are home counties, nut jobs that read him, like, like countryside pub fascists and they all live in fear of a guy in like a crushed velvet purple suit and a big feather in his hat, calling them a
Starting point is 00:16:33 honky. I just, I just can't get the image out of my head of like, how Brent and Neil imagined some like northern, northern town called like puddle, puddle widow or something. Yes, of course. Thank you. And there's like, there's like a man in a flat cap going like, we had to close down the wood pile factory because of political correctness.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's that's that's that's that same take, right? Is ah, damn, they shut down the racism mine. Actually, my mind's racism on computer. I don't want I don't want to retrain to do all this fancy computer racism. I don't know what that I bad at accents. I've lived in this country for like seven years, almost eight, and I'm so bad at accents. You're really bad at your own.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Shut up. Right. Is Canadian. He sounds like a generic American. Wow. You really do sound like a generic American. You sound like the you sound like John. What's his name that does the Bob's Burgers voice?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I have H John Benjamin voice. You are. H John Benjamin voice is actually a slur. Oh, it's like, it's like, or at voice, my wife, but H John Benjamin voice. Hussain, it was bravely recording at like three in the morning in Vancouver. It's it's it's it's one 30 and I'm about to fall asleep again. So I don't want to interrupt like another story with my snoring. I'm really looking forward to the gentle snoring.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm really looking forward to listening back to this episode and just hearing myself. But but thank you for having me on your own broadcast. You're welcome. From the land where everyone is gender neutral, except for Brendan O'Neill, who is a machine and I will see you when I'm back in the UK. All right, Hussain, go dream of short kings like Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro. Thank you. I will do.
Starting point is 00:18:42 All right. Catch you later, guys. Bye. Well, look, because we are allies, we're bringing you a lady. Bring in some women into the mix. That's right. We're bringing you a lady with the most roasted brain in Australia. OK, we're talking about a lady called Miranda Devine.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's a pretty sweet name. She's got a sweet name, though. Good name. Miranda is a it's so she she's like a staunch Catholic. So she goes nuts, like defending everybody from the Catholic Church. It gets accused of like child sex offences. So Cardinal George Pell, who is the most senior person from the Catholic Church in Australia and the third most senior Catholic in the world at this point.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He has finally he's finally been charged with historical sex offences. It had been brewing for a long time. Who knew? Who could have guessed? That's when you molest kids in an old time. You weren't wearing a stovepipe. That's when you that's when you you are doing abuse, but it's sepia toned. Yeah, it's like getting the hand caught in the steam loom that you take advantage. So so he got charged with historical sex offences and she chose to write some
Starting point is 00:20:01 stuff about how it was like basically a conspiracy by the police to distract from the crimes in Australia being done by ethnic minorities like our Sudanese crime gang. Oh, are we going to the apex gang? The apex gang, baby. Yes, she she accused the Victoria police of doing it to distract from their inability to control the black crime way. Yeah. So somehow it's it's pretty cool that Australia is constantly under threat
Starting point is 00:20:32 from roving gangs of Sudanese immigrants when they're like point point one of one percent of the population. Yet the whole country sin fear could be happening at any time. Absolutely. That's right. She had a she had a really good take that the the Grenfell Towers disaster was the result of green ideology. Yeah, of course, because, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:00 the green ideology involves having like a lot of really unsafe electronics plugged into the same socket because your tower is not being maintained at all completely when 19 brave Saudi hijacked green and crashed it into the Grenfell. OK, yeah, she she said in that piece, you can't overlook the deadly green ideas that contributed to the tragic Grenfell Tower fire in London. Yeah, that's OK.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Who's to say nothing is real. Most people have managed nothing is real. I smell toast. So I like though with this that so she claims that because because they use this composite cladding, which, you know, was was intended to make the building more energy efficient. As she says here, not just for its good looks, but as a sustainable energy solution to achieve green ticks in the carbon
Starting point is 00:21:56 obsessed British regulatory system. True, we are obsessed as and also all I think about is carbon. Did they and they also they had that attractive cladding on all of the all of the Catholic priests as well. Yes. As the management company running the 24 Tower story, 24 Story Tower, the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organization declared in a strategic report about the refurbishment.
Starting point is 00:22:18 All of this will greatly enhance the energy efficiency of the building. So so she thinks that it's is when it's on fire, we won't need to heat it. Yes, she says. Green ideology is given a sky high electricity prices and now flammable cladding. I like that she can't make the connection between the fact that like that it's capitalism driving people trying to cut all corners
Starting point is 00:22:45 and do the cheapest possible solution to providing any kind of service. Yeah, no, it's the it's cultural racism. It's basically everyone read the dialectic of enlightenment. And everyone read like Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction. And it was like, damn, the this group of of sort of Marxist philosophers called the Frankfurt School is really interesting. Anyway, I'm going to go burn down a tower because I hate the West now. Get some cladding.
Starting point is 00:23:10 But but I wanted to bring you I think what is probably one of our favorite columns of hers from last year. In which she brought to us the thesis that a white woman being shot by a black cop in the US proves that racism isn't real. And it's somehow the Black Lives Matter's fault. Oh, damn, they got us with science again. Fuck. That's logic. She's defeated us with logic. Damn it. Oh, she she and Brenda hate when I really hate when I get owned with logic.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then that's right. My and my only only response is just to get triggered and weep. So so Miranda is ready to explain it to us here. She says how a sweet blonde Australian yoga teacher in her pajamas came to be shot dead by American police outside her home in an affluent suburb of Minneapolis is a mystery. Her family desperately wants answered. So do we all.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But what we can safely assume is that Justine Damon's death was made more likely by anti police atmosphere whipped up in the US by the anarchic Black Lives Matters or BLM movements. Yeah, that's that's that's good. You know, it's what a what an easy and obvious connection to absolutely. It's like the more police it's like police realize they'll never get viral fame on their body cam if they don't commit a bunch of unnecessary murders.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That is true. Oh, my God. So it's continuing on over the past three years, BLM activists and complicit media and politicians have incited a wave of ambushes and assassinations of police, which have made officers feel on edge and under siege and more prone to make tragic assassinations. Yeah, you know, you know how in the states over the last couple of years, we've just seen those waves of videos of poor unarmed police being shot dead in the street. It's like there's nothing more dangerous to the police
Starting point is 00:25:01 than in like an unarmed black child. You know, it's like in some police departments, diversity trumps all other considerations, including public safety. No, it fucking doesn't. The well, to be fair to her public safety is not a very high priority in most police departments. You know, you know what people always say public safety is number two. So the dishonest narrative pushed by BLM is that America's police forces
Starting point is 00:25:32 are riven with systemic racism against innocent unarmed black men. Again, that's I don't know where they could have got this from. No, no, but the facts say otherwise. Are you ready to get schooled by some fucking? I am. You're ready to get triggered. Oh, yeah. They don't care about your feelings. That's that's how I feel about facts.
Starting point is 00:25:48 They do not. They only care about James Dadingpole's. Absolutely. That's right. But but the facts which do not care about your feelings say otherwise. And in any case, the officer who shot Justine was a black Somali American. Mohamed Noor, 31. He must have infiltrated the apex gang. I like that she has to clarify that he is Somali and black.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Not one of these. Just to get them all on his famous white Somali. Justine was by all accounts a gentle kind person who had moved from Sydney's northern beaches, Ladida, to the U.S. three years ago to marry the love of her life, Don Damon, who was away on business on Saturday night when she called 911 to report a woman screaming in the alley behind their house. When the patrol car arrived, Justine 40 went to talk to the officers
Starting point is 00:26:34 and Noor allegedly reached across in the passenger seat and shot her several times. Noor is grieving too. We always got to feel sad for the course. He issued a he issued a statement through his lawyer yesterday, saying Officer Noor is a caring person with a family he loves and he empathizes with the loss others are experiencing. It's like the oh, oh, here's the problem. Hit me hit me with the problem.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Noor was Noor was recruited in 2015. It's part of a federally funded recruitment drive by the Minneapolis Police Department, which had been lauded as a model of diversity. There's the problem. It's the diversity. That's the problem with the police. When you make the police too diverse, you get the wrong races shooting the wrong way to make sure that
Starting point is 00:27:18 like it's only white people who are, you know, committing systemic and sustained murder campaigns across the entirety of all of our countries. Oh, God damn, it gets gross though. Noor was hired less than a year after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, which launched BLM and set off the set off the catastrophic chain of events which culminated in Saturday night's tragedy. But that's a normal way to look at this chain. Yeah, it's yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, exactly. This is like that movie, The Butterfly Effect, but really racist. But BLM has never admitted that their entire movement is based on a lie. When white police officer Darren Wilson fatally shot Michael Brown on August 9th in Ferguson, he was acting in self-defense. Forensic evidence and eyewitness accounts show that Brown had assaulted the police officer and tried to grab his gun before Wilson shot him and not in the back like the media claims.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Okay, right? Jesus Christ. I love that. This is my thing that I really love about all these reactionary columnists is that they all think that like the mainstream media is actually controlled by radical leftists, which if it was true would fucking rule. But like she's anticipating that the most that the most strident kind of progressive criticism is going to actually be higher more women guards.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Like it's truly astonishing and an inspiring level of mental gymnastics just to basically say that every single event from like you being late to work and stubbing your toe to the Black Lives Matter movement to fucking to all of it just culminated in her being able to make a counterintuitive point that will trigger the left. Like it's the entire worldview is just childish. Well, like police, police brutality bad when it happens to white people. Well, just what I don't get about this, though, is that like
Starting point is 00:29:18 there's no point here at which she interrogates the idea that like maybe the police shouldn't be constantly shooting unarmed people. No, it's just like it's it's it's entirely about what what race they are. All she's saying is, oh, well, a white lady got shot by a black cop. Therefore, there isn't a problem specifically with black people being shot by white cops. It's just people being shot by cops, which is apparently this is what it is. It's like a reverse black swan thing where it's like you see white swans
Starting point is 00:29:49 all your life and you see a black swan and you're like up. Yep. No more white swans. Sorry. Those those definitely don't exist. It's incredible. Like yeah, she just she just doesn't seem to be able to make the connection that like that a cop being super jumpy on the trigger and immediately shooting someone just for like running over to their car does not dispute the BLM line at all in any way, shape or form. The entire point of what they're saying is the cops are fucking insanely
Starting point is 00:30:23 jumpy and constantly shooting people rather than ever trying to deescalate situations or follow any sort of proper training. The entire thing is just about the the instant that I think that I might have to deal with some kind of situation. I just immediately pull my fucking Glock out and shoot somebody three times. Which is exactly what happened. There is Homer Simpson turning off his TV with with his gun, basically. Or maybe she thought maybe maybe the officer thought that she was like
Starting point is 00:30:51 an ISIS person and that she was she was about to do a car style attack. Yes, she'd been she'd been radicalized. But yeah, shooting people is fine as long as it's just completely at random because then everyone has an equal chance of just being randomly killed by the police and that's the price we've played for living in a society. Exactly. Being shot by the police isn't a problem as long as, you know, they're not doing it because of your race. Like I said, I just I don't understand how you can like see this report
Starting point is 00:31:18 of this happening and your first thought be like, ah, this is in complete conflict with the message of BLM. Like there's nothing like I said, there's nothing about it. The conflicts with the law that the issue is police brutality and the killing of unarmed people. Yeah, it's it's these at its at its core. These people exist just to point out like minor inconsequential hypocrisies, basically that aren't hypocrisies. Yeah, yeah. Although I'm she manages to make everything extremely racial going on to
Starting point is 00:31:49 say gun murders of police last year increased by 56 percent, probably to 20 and 21 of the 64 deaths were ambush style shootings in a leaked internal document last year, the FBI explicitly blamed BLM and the media for the increase in attacks. Oh, isn't it weird that the FBI would blame people of color for people of color getting it's not like they've ever done anything like that before. You know, it's it's not like they've ever tried to make Martin Luther King kill himself. It's not like they sort of instituted a counterintelligence plan
Starting point is 00:32:21 to like try and infiltrate groups like Malcolm X or whatever. No, no, no, they've never done that. They've never just they've never done sting operations where they like, you know, find like a like a like a mentally challenged 16 year old Muslim and tell him like, you know, if you go over into that van, there's going to be ice cream and then arresting him for trying to do 9-11-2. Like no, none of that. I just love the idea of an ambush style attack against cops
Starting point is 00:32:48 where you just leave like a big a big box of like doughnuts and porn mags out on the pavement. You just wait for them to wander over a big box over the top of it, propped up with a stick, the string tied to it. If you ever want to see your beloved cops again. I was talking about this with friend of the show, I hear Shah. Well, it was up that we're of the fringe. We're saying the biggest crime of all would be what if you stole the police?
Starting point is 00:33:19 To which he then said that's what Bain does in the in Batman 3. He steals the police. It's an incredible realization, but this again again. This comes back to to what we were talking about before. Milo of like reverse engineering, a conclusion that suits your world view from evidence that says something completely different. So she says she goes on to say America's first black president Barack Obama was complicit. He and his black attorney's general, Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch
Starting point is 00:33:50 and the rest of the American left encouraged the backlash against police. And as police were targeted, they began to withdraw from communities. And of course, the people most at risk when the police withdraw are the poor and vulnerable in crime-ridden black community. Yeah, because then they're not going to get killed by the police like they like. I like the idea that she seems to be putting forward here, which is like that the police just started mistreating black people in like 2016.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, it's like all of these people, it's like all like at some point, what happens to a boomer's brain is like a switch flips when they get to a certain age. And then all of a sudden they just remember the entire world as like naughty books or or or busy town or whatever where there's the friendly friendly officer in the milkman and whatever. And then like Black Lives Matter and you know millennials and pussy hats or whatever came in and ruined their beautiful storybook memory where, you know, the police was a nice guy who said hello to you as opposed to.
Starting point is 00:34:50 They took away the wood pile factory and then the police started shooting everyone brown. Right? Like it's the police. The police used to be nice and then Antifa came in here and ruined it for everyone because and again it's and it always comes back to the fact that they've read the Frankfurt school because they're cultural Marxists, which again is incredible. It's just relatively sort of dense books of cultural criticism and it's the main threat facing the West because it's inspiring everyone from Barack Hussein Obama to Black Lives Matter to Antifa because we're all being
Starting point is 00:35:23 commanded from beyond the grave by you know Jürgen Habermas is still alive. We're all being commanded from beyond the grave by these like sort of like like bookish bookish German philosophers. But yeah, like again just this idea that you know as opposed to everybody used to love cops and cops used to be nice to everyone and everything was fine up until a couple of years ago as opposed to the idea that like the police have always disproportionately mistreated communities of color and you know fucking shot unarmed people and framed them for murders and planted guns on them and all that sort of shit that we've seen so much evidence of over
Starting point is 00:36:01 the past 50 years like how many fucking cases can we see of people getting exonerated like 20 years after the fact or taken off death row or you know finally getting their trial reopened where they find out that they just pulled some white lady off the street and said hey do you reckon that guy did that crime yep lock him away gun all that sort of shit and maybe the only difference is that now everybody in the fucking world has a video camera in their pocket and now we're just seeing it all the time like but no that's probably not it it's probably it's diversity it's because it's because every white person goes like a little bit crazy every time they see a non-white person and the more and it's like it's
Starting point is 00:36:44 like it's like mental kryptonite to us of course so we can hardly be blamed well I just want to give you the last line here before we move on a black cop killing an unarmed white woman does not fit the narrative pushed by BLM activists but they may as well have pulled the trigger wow ladies a real piece oh my good yeah it's it's true you know it's like it's like that's that's black lives matters secret plan is to get every white person in america to stand on a big x where then they'll have a piano dropped on them and then they'll have to know what it's like to have piano key teeth well hang on a minute so white people's police brutality is just working at the tesla factory
Starting point is 00:37:34 having shit fall on you all because elon musk hates yellow yeah but she's she's suggesting then that but black lives matters uh policy is uh so the police disproportionately murder a lot of black people we want the police to murder more white people to balance it out yeah yeah that would be encouraging white genocide oh yeah again just just the idea that like you can take a single incident of again a person an unarmed person being shot by a cop and say ah because the races are flipped around from the one we're used to this just proves that systemic racism doesn't exist it's the same like nope no one can know it's the same two two tropes it's not possible to know anything except all the stuff
Starting point is 00:38:24 i think already and and then even the very fact that the story is noteworthy that a white woman has been shot by a black cop isn't in itself proof that clearly pretty much all the time white cops are shooting black people well it was like that um like that uh the guy that was in the news a week ago or whatever that was getting arrested in an airport and he started shouting you're treating me like a black person oh that was amazing yeah and all those people were like yeah funny what would that be then what are you oh yeah and then he had to be like oh oh because you're respecting me and you're not saying slurs because we don't that's the thing is that the police officers use calling me mr former president it's that the police used to be like polite in
Starting point is 00:39:08 your friend and they would come around to your house and you could play slurs with them but now ooh diversity i just don't get that shit at all like cops in australia used to like i think the i think the sort of vibe in australia and and england is very similar in terms of you know we used to have like the the friendly country cop type uniform we used to just have like a guy a guy in shirts leaves and slacks and a funny ours have the bad hats um yep and and like now in melbourne all the cops that walk around are all walking around in a group of at least three or four with like tactical vests and combat boots and a whole bunch of shit strapped up and like every time i see them they're either keeping to themselves in a group in a way that i don't think
Starting point is 00:39:58 encourages anyone to think oh i can just go up and have a chat to these cops and they're many guns like pseudo militaristic gear and like that or if i see them talking to anybody it's literally a group of police surrounding a person all talking to them and asking questions at once in like what it's very obviously intended to be an intimidating way yeah i always think to myself like yeah if if the fucking narrative that you want to push is like people used to like cops it's like we'll start fucking acting likable don't don't have your whole thing be like we're gonna try and turn ourselves into this paramilitary force roving around in gangs well no it's like acting as unapproachable as possible and then wonder why the fuck people don't like you what's the thing i
Starting point is 00:40:42 don't actually feel like the thing is i don't feel safe if i'm walking to the store unless i know that there's someone out there who might run me over in an m1 abram's tank because he was too busy like trying to text a dick pic to a juror he's trying to intimidate so we all know uh we have the uk's terrible columnist but the uk also has a cottage industry of giving terrible people like time shares in terrible newspapers um and so uh jeremy clarkson um famous asshole and uh famous dunce uh has has written a column for the times entitled argue with today's youth and they'll call you a racist then start blubbing which again it's this and we'll see it's the same thing where um in in the in the in the deling poll article he's like the only answer could be
Starting point is 00:41:33 that that science must be wrong and so his never considers that maybe he might actually be a racist it's the children who are wrong um i simply try to engage the dinner party in a game of slurs and i'm instantly labeled a racist okay okay so uh clarkson begin this biggest would over a lovely lunch on my holiday this year one of the quote unquote old people around the table said that britain's super slack immigration policy means we are letting an army onto our shores while the mood couldn't have changed more quickly if i if she'd said i've just murdered 14 tramps what uh what could possibly say what could possibly sound racist about like talking about race like talking about immigration in the context of an invading horde of savages
Starting point is 00:42:29 i don't know why people took it so weirdly what the fuck could have led to that if someone was just like oh could you please uh can you please pass the pepper i was like we're being invaded i feel like i feel like calling i feel like calling people tramps is like the homeless version of calling uh sex workers hookers or something oh yeah very old school oh yeah this is excellent tramps ladies of the night this is what yeah street was the thing one of the young people began to sob actually sob and another fixed the old person with a stare made from rage and bile and explain that everyone from everywhere should be allowed to live wherever they like again yes that definitely also uh now is my favorite bit of the article is between mouthful where he makes a draw between
Starting point is 00:43:13 mouthfuls of padron peppers i agreed with this saying i'd love to live in george cluney's house on lake komo which is definitely an old person reference which is the same thing yeah it's the same immigration is the same it's just moving into someone you don't know absolutely it's racist if you don't allow for if you don't allow 14 people to camp out on your couch actually not wanting to um not wanting to live in the middle of like a war zone in syria is exactly the same as wanting to live in george cluney's house we don't all get what we want yeah some yeah you know some some people are george cluney and they live in a lake house in komo other people are dead um okay yeah also they're definitely having this conversation in a fucking expensive villa not far from lake home
Starting point is 00:43:59 jeremy clarkson's making it sound like you don't all get what you want but unless you're jeremy clarkson who is a multimillionaire and can literally have pretty much anything he wants so he says this went down rather badly so as the lovely lunch was turning into a bit of a disaster i changed the subject and began to speak about the hot summer in england which turned into a debate about global warming or climate change whatever it's called these days only the other day the former labor spin doctor alistair cambell said that to deny man's involvement of this should be a crime callback and it seems he has full support from those who are under 25 even though they certainly hadn't got the science worked out whoa jeremy clarkson engaging in a little bit of client denial
Starting point is 00:44:39 here to save to save his dinner party from the terrible gaffe about saying that basically like syrians deserve to die because they're in syria he's then like anyway climate change isn't real let's be more saying less controversial just just in terms of things that absolutely did not happen is like the the adam sandler level screenwriting of saying a thing at a dinner and having someone there immediately start going this fucking never happened it's all triggered by the truth is the issue i mean i'm certainly triggered i couldn't get through this article right now nate's edited this out but we're all weeping we're all triggered we are weeping in our teeth like i said like i said twaddle but my attempts to provide some kind of enlightenment fell on
Starting point is 00:45:33 deaf ears they were right and that's that cars are bad central heating is bad donald trump is very bad kale is good and i should shut up because it's not my world anymore i'm simply a guest whose outstate is welcome again reasonable point yeah i mean like what is he disagreeing with the point that donald trump is very bad i i mean i don't i i try not to listen to clarkson but i assume he would be a donald trump supporter because he says what's on his mind it's like he like he's yeah and what he likes the and what is on his mind is insane yeah he was well what's on his mind is tertiary syphilis yeah it barely even makes sense what's on his mind is how much he hates windmills because they kill birds he hates windmills because once a windmill stopped him getting
Starting point is 00:46:15 laid in the 90s with a woman he totally could have had sex with he was very attractive actually lisa lisa rinne it was very unfair to me he's still like he's still extremely mad at scotland about wind turbines um but because of his stupid fucking golf yeah so basically okay the thing about the wind turbines is they blow the blow the wind at me when i'm playing my golf okay and it ruffles the hair i don't like it it dries out the vaginas of my nearby attractive women okay it's not good it's not good for it's not healthy right so he then goes he then he then basically talks about how you know his generation uh love gordon gecko and asset stripping meant thousands would lose their jobs but that didn't matter because it meant we could party harder that night at anabelle's
Starting point is 00:46:58 other people didn't matter awesome yeah um and so i don't know why he's made he's basically saying that they didn't care about the previous generation either but that they did a bunch of psychotic boomer shit like privatize everything and then you know do a bunch of like stepped on coke in the back booths of this terrible club in mayfair there's no there's no position more defensible than other people don't matter no it's true i mean i mean again that's this is what this is why jeremy clarkson even though he isn't a full-time columnist is the purest conservative columnist because he just says the fundamental thing that underpins every single conservative columnist and he's literally like mates with uh david camera and like they go like fucking pigeon
Starting point is 00:47:40 shit together so he would sit basically in building a world like this the boomers parents would explain so he says our parents would explain in much the same way that martin sheet explained in wall street that we were building a house made from straw but just like charlie sheen in the same movie we paid no attention we were convinced of our own righteousness i mean what could possibly go wrong the boomers rolled in crack okay boomers that explains boomers were let's think charlie sheet is the ultimate boomer it just sounds to me like jeremy clarkson only owns one db here and he uses it just been thinking about wall street a lot he uses it to do coke off of of course mainly yeah um so in a debate about but okay actually before you go on it's
Starting point is 00:48:19 like that's the thing it's like yeah you're right your generation did fuck everything up because you don't think other people matter but then you're saying how dare you get mad at us for any reason because we're perfect yeah that's that's that's that's hit that's his point in a debate about transgender is in the other day i'm sure that came up organically great i wondered out loud how sport would work if people were allowed to choose their sex before kickoff and i was called a racist immediately why won't you get called a racist yeah had had you had you also said something racist in the same set it's probably he only has the one one word he doesn't he's like the all none of these people know what words are like their whole thing is pretending they have no idea what
Starting point is 00:49:02 anything means and like maybe he was playing a classic game of slurs when he was then to say anyway what about transgenderism because clearly also he's having an actual good faith discussion about it where he wants to learn more he doesn't just kind of ooked out by the idea that like some people were born a different gender a different gender than their biological sex no no he doesn't just want to like you know trigger the lefties well yeah it's it's the same as all like the the stupid like you know the 34 genders i identify as an apache attack helicopter well that stupid shit that is yeah it's like it's like people are effectively saying to you that if they are saying anything like that in good faith they are effectively saying apparently at some
Starting point is 00:49:48 point i stopped having the ability to learn a thing i've done learning a thing now and i'd just prefer to sound like a fucking idiot for the rest of my life um or to the podcast yeah or or it's just constant bad faith and you're just telling people oh i'm just pretending that i don't get what any of this stuff is that you're talking about because i want to make it so confusing i dropped my sparks of slurs again i self identify as a pile of wood so really and here's what we get to the point a point of the of the of the article right which is like he was why he said oh we did we disagreed with our parents but then we went out and did something and specifically what they did was ruin the fucking world um but the real point he's trying to say is you're not
Starting point is 00:50:37 allowed to disagree with any of this because then you're being judgmental which means you're a racist and that's before we get to the concept of me too and everybody brace yourself for this sub clause because it's a doozy which means i can no longer ask the tea lady at work to get me a cup of tea yeah no that's the same as raping a lady that's that's identical it's the same thing it's the same thing it's i haven't had tea in ages put some sugar in my tea yes thank you southern jeremy clarkson yeah like it's insane again it's it's the same it's the same shit where people try and act like oh you know because um harvey weinstein got in trouble for like forcing his penis into the mouths of dozens of women i'm not allowed to speak to a woman yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:51:26 because i don't know what because that's the same thing you can see that because my custom when i speak to a woman is to force my penis into him yeah i mean i think we actually haven't been talking to lucy at all we recorded this between us and then she adds her track over over it afterward yeah that's right that's correct we maintain a respectful distance at all times but again like i just i just don't understand this whole thing of i mean number one it can either be what we were just talking about of somebody essentially saying i am unable at this point in my life to learn or understand the concept of consent um and or you know it's it's just easier to say i cannot speak to or look at a woman anymore um in which case we're we're all just
Starting point is 00:52:15 advocating for sharia law at that point i as you sport it may swell i support it i support sharia it's a system as a cultural marxist yes obviously yes it's it's all this fucking pretending it's the same thing as the gender stuff it's the whole just saying like oh but i i don't know what i can or can't do even fucking um henry cavill from the superman movies he had that interview a couple of weeks ago where he was like oh well maybe i'm just an old fashioned guy i can't get on women anymore yeah he was like oh i like it the old fashioned way where you chase a day but now i don't think you could do that without being accused of raping her i was like henry henry cavill likes to engage in the timeless art of seduction which is where you put a bunch of like
Starting point is 00:52:58 makeup and cosmopolitan magazines underneath a box held up by a stick you use the wedding sack from the borat film well i suppose the only other thing that i can take away from that sort of stuff is is people effectively saying i am completely and utterly without the ability to read or interpret social cues absolutely like just i i i cannot or i refuse to actually will look at how a person is reacting to me like which to be fair is exactly jeremy clarkson's whole life like yeah yeah whether they're southern jerry got to be like i do declare that you very much trigger the liberals when you do very normal things like punching a man in the face when you're in your place of work these days they say you can't do that it's the salt well i say i'll never
Starting point is 00:53:49 talk to a man again in case i punch him in the face now well that's that's fair that his vibe is basically encapsulated as bumbling ignorant fuck because that's the thing like here's and look there's a million other things to unpack in this article like how he thinks that racism is just being judgmental as opposed to historical power structures you know it's but that's the same thing that racism is just conflated with person a personal failing or rudeness that they can't conceive of any structure but like ultimately you know if jeremy clarkson is going to say because of modern social mores i'm just not going to talk to anybody anymore i'll say good great can you start now yeah if you if you can't get through like a single conversation
Starting point is 00:54:33 with a woman or a person of color or anything without saying something racist or misogynist or whatever thank good shut the fuck up mind your business that's fine oh boy okay god damn that's that's jeremy that's jeremy clarkson dark jeremy the uk the uk's dark jeremy is a far too jeremy is who boy there's also there's also chaotic neutral jeremy jeremy vine oh don't who just hosts a phone in shorn radio too about like how loud your lawn don't don't forget don't forget uh true neutral jeremy jeremy kyle no no he's lawful he he's he's lawful neutral jeremy sorry we're going to have to do the jeremy alignment chart another time though because we are we are severely over time and nate's going to die when he sees the edit job we had to he's
Starting point is 00:55:22 going to be upset apologies in advance so how do we um sorry how do we think our our our two peripheral anglophone countries stack up gone it's gone pretty well they're both bad i think we're very similar you know but both pieces of shit i learned i learned something today which is that there are there are terrible conservative columnists all over the world so we should be internationalized exactly like i felt i kind of was just a bit disappointed about our british showing because i felt like our columnists were as dumb as the australian columnists but they weren't as like balls out of the bath like like they didn't have the same frisson of craziness in like what they were saying yeah it was like more like low-key it was a smug where the australians were just like
Starting point is 00:56:07 oh man you can't even set fire to a black person anymore they'll call you they'll call you a misogynist us our ones we kind of punch above our weight in the sense that our conservative columnists all like say the quiet part really loud it's all it's all articles about how like the real racists are the black people asking you to stop shooting them because they're asking you to stop shooting black why not ask them to stop shooting white people the unit is is well the problem is when they ask to stop being shot they always call the cops white which is the real most offensive slur the unit is that all is that your terrible conservative columnists are all yeah they're all psychotic and our terrible conservative columnists are all like really smug but they're
Starting point is 00:56:54 reading a book upside down oh boy what strange alphabet is this all right um cuneiform i think maybe it's time we uh go go um enjoy our lives outside this terrible terrible realm of conservative columnists across the various seas i can do say um i andy and lucy thank you guys very much for coming on um they have an amazing podcast called boon to vista or as one guy called it boon vista one very angry thread that made us all friends um and i strongly recommend you go listen to it they have a patreon um i listen to it all the time it's where i get my knowledge of um of the australian news from and you too soon can learn to fear the apex gang guys thank you very much for coming on thank you for having us it's a pleasure all right good night everybody oh wait actually
Starting point is 00:57:54 note before i say good night um thank you to um jin sang for our theme song it's called here we go you can find it on spotify uh try commodifying your descent with a t-shirt from a little comrad and uh don't forget when you want to when when you're looking to cook up some anti-western conspiracy theories in your kitchen there's no better way to do it than with the quality and style of remi cookware there we go also thank you to all the the trash boys and persons who came to my Edinburgh show yeah it's cool all right now good night for real everybody

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