TRASHFUTURE - Live. Laugh. Love. There Is No God.

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

What a whirlwind week it’s been. For starters, Jeremy Corbyn gave the Lib Dems and CUK/TIGs an offer they would normally not be able to refuse, but instead refused because (as we knew all along) they hate mild social democracy more than they hate Brexit, despite being the “Stop Brexit Jeremy” parties. We discuss this, as well as WeWork’s recent initial public offering. Riley (@raaleh) dug up their S-1 filing and talks it over with Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum). We live in a great economy, and as such this episode is extremely positive. If you like this show, sign up to the Patreon and get a second free episode each week! You’ll also get access to our Discord server, where good opinions abound. https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *COME SEE MILO* If you're in Edinburgh for the Fringe, come see our boy perform his show: https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/pindos *LIVE SHOW ALERT* Guess who’s going to play live at The World Transformed in Brighton this September? That’s right, your favourite podcast lads. Buy a ticket here: http://theworldtransformed.org If you want to buy one of our recent special-edition phone-cops shirt, shoot us an email at trashfuturepodcast[at]gmail[dot]com and we can post it to you. (£20 for non-patrons, £15 for patrons) Do you want a mug to hold your soup? Perhaps you want one with the Trashfuture logo, which is available here: https://teespring.com/what-if-phone-cops#pid=659&cid=102968&sid=front

Socialism doesn't work. Not only because it fails to produce the economic and material advancements needed for the masses, but because it takes away human dignity, our civil liberties and our rights as autonomous individuals. It demands that we have the ability to choose to advance through the industry, to live the kind of kind of kind of sky-mash. And to be able to do that, we need to be able to do that. Hello and welcome back to your weekly free episode of TrashFuture, that podcast that you're listening to now. It's an all Skype episode today. I am Riley in studio. I am joined by Milo, who's still in Edinburgh.

Hello, did somebody say a Durham style podcast? Yes, it's me, you boy, live from the Edinburgh Fringe. Milo, where can people go see you? Let's just do plugs up front. Yeah, I'm on every day, up to and including the 25th of August at 2 o'clock at the Charteris Center. The show has been going really well. I got a five star review yesterday, so I'm pretty pleased about that. Hell yeah. So yeah, please come and see it before I collapse from exhaustion and scurvy.

Oh, I know what happened. When Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, quotes, unquote, unquote, what happened is he jumped out of the jail and then landed on a trampoline and flew very high into the sky and then became a little star, one of which was added to Milo's review. So thank you, Jeffrey. Also with us is Hussein Kasvani from his home in London. We're from South London, baby. I was supposed to come into the studio today, but a truck carrying an absurd amount of small children has crashed. So there's traffic that's built up on my road, but there's also a number of small children who keep saying that they arrive from an island and they're wondering where their father is. So yeah.

People with the Ross Stuart haircut doing the new Kindertransport. What is Britain but the biggest St. James Island? And we are also joined today by Alice from Scotland. Russell Group Future. Happy to be here. Oh, very fun. If you got your A level results today also, because we're recording in an A level results day, I'd just like to take this time to remind you that it doesn't matter, society's going to end. Yeah. And also, it doesn't matter anyway, because I went crazy, dropped out, never got any A

levels and now I'm doing this. So. Yeah. Now you have a prestigious job as an irony podcaster. Yeah, exactly. I think that in the future, university elitism is going to exist. But it's like, if you went to Oxford or Cambridge, you would have like a managerial role at the Amazon dick sucking factory. And if you went to like coal, there would be like muffin floors. But here's the crucial thing. If you went to like one of like the nonsense colleges in Oxford in Cambridge like, I don't know, Robinson College, for example, no offense.

Tommy Robinson College. Okay. If you went to one of the monasteries in Oxford, right, but if you went to like Christchurch College, Oxford, then you get to be like the guy who gets to like Polish Jeff Bezos's dick. And that's, you know, that's really how like, you know, so you'll see these like prospectors in like 20 years time for Oxford in Cambridge, and you'll have like this alumni got to actually suck the master's dick. Yes. Every every single college is just renamed Bezos.

In the climate apocalypse future, the fresh water raiders who come and steal all your shit, you know, they will still need an officer class. So that is what Oxford and Cambridge will be for. They're all called Bezos College, but keys just pronounces it bees. That's fun. All right. On villain Bezos College. So I'd like to talk a little bit about Brexit, if I might, a little bit about the that old

Brexit road, because it's taken several years of media commentators and centrist politicians and all this saying, what about Brexit, Jeremy? What about Brexit, Jeremy? What about Brexit, Jeremy? Well, he told us all what about Brexit. Yeah, he finally flipped the stop Brexit button that he had had behind his desk the whole time. The silent stop Brexit alarm. So Corbyn has said what about Brexit, which is to vote for the table of motion of no confidence in the government, which seems committed to a no deal Brexit as a kind of national emergency. And then take the head of the government temporarily as a caretaker government, extend Article 50,

get a second referendum on the books, and then call a general election. So he would be prime minister for like, I don't know, 30 days. Anyway, this is basically more or less what the plan was at conference. People are saying he's he's flipped. He basically hasn't. However, what do we think? I mean, I would say, what do we think? We must know, right, that everyone whose entire political purpose has been stopping Brexit. They're for the last sort of, what, three-ish years. All of those people must be overjoyed at this prospect, right?

What you've got wrong there, Riley, is that actually this is Maoism, and it's actually a far greater threat than anything that they've been talking about for the past three years, is having Corbyn be prime minister for a month. Yeah, absolutely. Who knows what he would be able to nationalize in that time? Well, exactly, because he might actually, you know, Jermoy Crobney is a very cunning man, right? And, you know, all he wants to do is he wants to turn over Britain to the PLO and Chairman Mao and what have you. So, I mean, you've got to be very careful that what if he uses his, you know,

stopping Brexit as a way to actually do Brexit? Yeah, well, what if he switches the stop Brexit switched on, but at the same time, he also switches the racism switched on. Yes, that switch that has the two ways of governing. I mean, in reality, like what we really want is a unity government, which features EU Supergirl and Saigonovacad, right? Hmm, of course. So, that's what I'll be campaigning for.

So, it's a little more detail here. Joe Swinson, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. And for now, you might say. Wait, is the leader of the Liberal Democrats named after that guy from Family Guy? No, not again. Not another Family Guy reference on the podcast, Milo. Fuck off. We're just trying to shift economy from like a planned Simpsons reference economy

to a less a fair family guy reference based economy. No, I have the notes. It will stay as the same. Milo will not sneak his reactionary Family Guy riffs bizarrely into this show. No, it's not my fault. The Lib Dem leader is named after a Family Guy character, not after a Simpsons character.

Take it up with the Lib Dems. Okay, fine. The leader of the Lib Dems, Lenny and Carl, which is what we're referring to. It's Lenny. I look forward to this being another one of the trashy parts of the cosmology that just becomes incorporated. And a year later, we're still calling her Lenny and Carl.

And no one fucking understands why. That's it. We're going to call her Lenny and Carl forever now. I hope you're happy, Milo. Joe Swinson quoted as saying, Ow, my eye. I'm not supposed to get Brexit in it. Okay, right.

So now this podcast is 5% more impenetrable. I hope you're happy. So that's it. Lenny and Carl, back to win effect. Lenny and Carl dismissed the plan as quote unquote nonsense, saying that the labor leader could not unite opposition MPs, such as her, such as herself, before proposing either Ken Clark or Harriet Harman

as a more suitable caretaker PM. Harriet Harman, by the way, is Nate's MP. Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. She's like Harriet Harman. Why is it? She's reasonable.

Harriet Harman. Does that mean Harriet Harman's part of the trash future universe? Yes. Well, I guess, I guess so. Let's see if, I don't know, maybe if Nate's bins don't get collected on time, then yes, it's all Harriet Harman. This is just amazing.

Harman is a centrist, fifth columnist. So basically what we have here is the leader of the Lib Dems, Lenny and Carl, has said that this plan is absolutely not workable. You're really commising to this one, aren't you? Yeah. Because you know what, sometimes you just got to take a stand. So this plan is nonsense because Jeremy Corbyn can't unite key figures in the opposition such as herself.

Can anyone tell me why they think this is a bit strange for a party whose entire raison d'etre has been stopping Brexit, that there is now an opportunity with the parliamentary arithmetic to stop Brexit, that they might not stop Brexit? Maybe Joyce Winston just misses being in the coalition. She just wants to hang out with her homies. Yeah, we just wish it was 2015 again. Who doesn't?

They wanted to be 2012. They wanted to be 2012. Or I guess like in that like vague area where like every year was the same. Well, also, if we look at Lenny and Carl's voting record as a member of the coalition government, she praised and propped up austerity at literally, I mean, they all did, but she was especially vocal in her praise of austerity

as like a morally and economically sound project. So it's no surprise that she would find the prospect of a Corbyn government to be completely, you know, unacceptable, even in the face of us. Look, one of the reasons we don't talk about Brexit that much on this show is because I think that like corporate, techno corporate oligarchy and climate catastrophe are probably going to end society in like 10 years anyway. We've got work by doing a no deal Brexit.

We're giving ourselves a head start of 10 years to like become wastelands raiders or whatever. So if anything you get the experience boost and you kind of level up early. Yeah, wonderful. We actually recolonize the world, but it's like the reverse where we're the ones without the advanced technology. We've just gotten used to like fucking brutality.

So we start invading France and we're just like beating them to death with shop and rocks. Yeah, absolutely. Britain will once again conquer the entire world, but mostly because we're slightly better at being irradiated savages. Anyway, at this point, I assume Jeff Bezos will be living on a space station with like, you know, several of his friends and Jeffrey Epstein too.

Yeah, and whoever went to Bees College. Cambridge. So the Lib Dem leader obviously has been branded childish by shadow education secretary Angela Rainer, who is an absolute queen. And the SNP, meanwhile, said they are happy to work with Jeremy Corbyn. You just described someone as an absolute queen. It's when you're trying to synthesize absolute labs.

Top legend, Angela Rainer. An absolute, absolute fucking men. Absolute fucking men. Oh, I can't. Absolutely mad lass. The absolute mad lass Angela Rainer. Branding the Lib Dem, Lib Dem leader Lenny and Carl is childish.

The SNP say they're happy to work with Jeremy Corbyn and a group of Tory rebel MPs say they were at least happy to meet with him to discuss his plan. Yeah, it's like the Tory MPs with the least plausible names too. Yes, such as Guto Beb. Guto Beb, who apparently this is Welsh. I thought it was posh English and like you call your kid Guto because Hugo is too proletarian.

Hugo is too proletarian. It sounds very soprano. It's like, hey, give me a blade of that Guto Beb. So yeah, what we have now is a situation in which it seems like only the Remain Ultras that were described ably described in that Guardian long read last week. Only it's the only the Remain Ultras. The Democratic Football Second Rank Random Lad's Alliance.

I mean, I look forward to that being the militia that seizes power in the waist. Also, also Milo, I hate to correct you. They're not the Democratic Remain Football Lad's Alliance, whatever. They would definitely be the Democratic Remain Public Quidditch Lad's Alliance. That's who those people are. I'm sorry. There's got to be some rugby union people among them,

but the kind of rugby union people who say that rugby is like a thugs game played by gentlemen. Oh yeah, they love saying that. Yeah, I was always a league man myself. Anyway, so anyone in London needs a capable winger. A capable winger. If anyone in London needs someone to eat oysters while they play rugby. That's really just kind of a London Irish vibe.

I mean, I love going to like British pubs and being like, I'm a league man myself, but referring only to League of Legends. So the independent group for change, once known as Change UK has also rejected the proposal. So it's just the Remain Ultras. Literally everybody else is... They went from the independent group to Change UK and now they're the independent group for change.

Yes. They are the most sick of it, bunch of cunts to have ever lived, aren't they? Honestly, you could not like this. They're like the fucking black water of politics. Like, no, no, no, no by-elections lost here incorporated. Here's the thing. What you're saying is true, but it's not the most true. The best way to describe these people is as trots.

They're liberal trots. They're just constantly splitting until all of their sects are just one person each because they have the ideological purity. The Revolutionary Stop Brexit Party. Marxist Leninists tend to say... They're the only party that has a half life because they just continually decay to half of their original size. And then what's going to happen is that...

Well, I guess Chuck Ramon is in the Lib Dems now, but I suppose Anna Subri will continue to subdivide smaller and smaller and smaller until it's like Fantasia. Yeah. The Anuans are completely neutralizing Mr. Berry them deep in a mine. So she says that Mr. Corbin and Osubri, the subdividing Change UK person, says Mr. Corbin is not the person, given he struggles to maintain the confidence of his own backbenchers.

Again, I wonder why. Yeah, this problem that I've caused seems to be a huge hindrance to you. Yeah. Yeah, I may have shit in the middle of your rug, but on the other hand, have you considered keeping a cleaner house? It's just like they're just not... It feels like they're not even trying to be at all convincing because Lenny and Carl have actually now said that they are willing to speak to Corbin.

Literally, this just popped up on my phone now. Yeah, except Lenny and Carl said that, fuck, you've got me doing it now. She said that she would speak to them about installing some kind of caretaker PM who would not be Corbin. But I bet that within half an hour of us recording this, she'll have gone back and said, oh, well, actually, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. Many people are yelling at me and as a Lib Dem, my chief political platform is it should be illegal to yell at me. The problem is Lenny and Carl is going to try, but the problem is Lenny and Carl is an INTJ. So if she feels as though Corbin is not... She's a small bean.

Yeah, she's a small bean INTJ with imposter syndrome. So we're going to see what she does. The Lib Dems are always trying to do these, like fucking Lovrenti barrier style political maneuvers, but it never works because they're really bad at political... No, because they're just really bad at political maneuvering. So like, they're like, oh yeah, well we won't accept, you know, Jeremy Corbin as caretaker PM,

although we would accept Harriet Harman, an irrelevant outsider. Twirls, moustaches, theatrically. Yeah, like if they really wanted to put the cat among the pigeons, they would say, but we would accept Diane Abbott. Like, sow some fucking discord among the shadow cabinet. Like, why are you this bad at politics? Like, you don't even know how to fuck with people. They're that bad.

Lovrenti barrier, the Epstein of Soviet Russia. What, in as much as he is, he's actually secretly working for the good of the Russian people. Joseph Stalin white hat pedophile. Yo, I've been thinking about this though, right? Like, okay, hear me out to see if this makes sense. Okay. Who had access to all of the major high profile deep state sickos

that are now being revealed through QPosts? Who was picked by Donald Barr, the former head of OSS for a secret mission involving movement through all of the intelligence agencies? Who would, with the help of a Blue Lives Matter patriot police officer, then fake his own death so he could disappear off of the scene forever so that he could make his dramatic reemergence? That's what I'm saying. Jeffrey Epstein is Q.

Jeffrey Epstein is Q. We'll hunt him not because he deserves it, but because we have to. Yeah, that's my new theory. He's not dead. He faked his own death. There's a body double situation. He's Q. I'm pretty sure this is actually a Q and on conspiracy theory. What? No, really? I think so.

Well, definitely the Q and on stuff that's happening right now is that we're entirely convinced that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive and that the figure that died was a body double and they've judged this based on the shape of the ear. They're convinced that the shape of the ear is different. I love some ear phrenology. We made fun of that, but now we need them more than ever. Yeah, we need their craniometry.

Well, this is also the other thing too, because the whole Epstein thing has been so bizarre, the argument is basically going, but actually the conspiracy theorists were right all along. I don't know. I look at this. I'm kind of like, yeah, maybe actually. Actually, maybe the frogs are turning my water gay. Maybe I should be huffing in for War's Glue.

You're asking some serious questions about how I became trans. Every morning I get in a shower and this water goes all over my dick. All I'm saying, pretty gay. Anyway, so leaving beside Epstein brain for a moment, I just want to kind of live for a moment, just for the mere flicker of a moment. I would like to sum up where it seems we are. So the British political landscape has rearranged itself

for the Tories, Lib Dems and Cucks as the parties of Brexit, either because they're willing to burn the ground to turn the country into Mad Max, or how could you, Matt Hancock, by the way, I thought you were a white hat idiot, or because their entire animating force is to prevent even like mild social democracy, including in the name of electability,

blocking the premiership of a socialist PM who would stop Brexit because it's not sensible or electable. It literally is the case of Elmer Fudd pointing his gun into a bush and then Bugs Bunny just turning it back on him and him blowing his own face backwards. What kind of ass backwards fucking pageantry is this by these people? It's going to be very difficult to make that cartoon because I don't think they'll be able to get the rights

to put Lenny and Carl into Looney Tunes. All right, that's a great button on that segment. I'd like to move on now. Back from out of the realm of... When we fucking all. I'd like to move out of the realm of British politics for a moment and into a discussion of our old favorite Amazon. We love to talk about Amazon folks.

We love to order things from Amazon. We love to work at Amazon. We love to approvingly retweet accounts of Twitter personalities of people who say things like, I am being treated well at my job for Amazon. Appearing on TV in an orange jumpsuit with your Amazon boss. I've converted to a version of Shia Islam that says Jeff Bezos is the hidden mom. When we were driving to Edinburgh,

we passed a big Amazon warehouse. I don't know whether Riley was in the car at the time or whether it was just me and Nate. That was really weird. It was this huge building that looked like a screensaver. Well, we can answer whether Riley was in the car or not. Was there techno playing? No, there was Canadian...

Oh, that rules it out then. Yeah, but I have a no techno rule in my car. But they were playing Canadian indie bands that I had no idea about. Anyway, we passed this big warehouse that from the outside just looked like this bizarre screensaver. But it was really, really huge. I had never seen an Amazon fulfillment centre before. But as you can imagine, it looked very, very dystopian.

But the colours looked pretty... So that's the future of architecture. It was very Bruce-less, the way that it was structured. Real example of bad Bruce-lism as well. That's going to be the future. Just obscure buildings like that, taking over the land. The side of motorways. You've all enjoyed American indie bands such as OK Go.

Now enjoy Canadian indie bands such as OK Sure Thing, Bud. How long you were cooking that one up there, bro? I had to wait for him to finish. I thought of it quickly, I promise. I didn't spend a long time thinking of that. Clearly. I don't know, sometimes I wonder what future generations are going to... There's going to be a small society that develops in an Amazon warehouse

that's an entirely indoor city because it's relatively defensible from raiders and keeps the elements off of you, right? Yeah, we're going to have Amazon dwarves who never see the sunlight because the fulfilment centre provides all their needs. Exactly. It's like an infinite supply of dildos. No, I mean, they're basically like oompa-loompas, right? Yeah.

Singing in front of dildos. I don't think you know. How many dildos I go through? That's a supply chain to keep up. I was kind of thinking, right? Because they're going to be slowly living on the boxes in the Amazon centre. Whatever just happened to be there, sort of once all the electricity finally turned off at the final moment,

like once society basically wasn't really a thing anymore. And they probably develop a religion around opening certain boxes at certain times of day for the greatest bounty. And if the king opens a box in the time of need of great medicine and opens the box and inside is mere child's playthings, then the king is, of course, sacrificed, and then the electors convene from the different quadrants of Amazonia to elect, of course, a new king.

So I'm seeing a very like Wicker Man situation emerging. I've seen bonus episodes where you make a kind of like D&D or GERP sessing out of this that we play. Because you put a lot of thought into this. We require medicine, but inside this box we have found only Brainforce Plus. Okay, so here's what's actually happening with Amazon now as opposed to what's going to be happening with Amazon in, I don't know, 18 months. But also there's this thing called Amazon Recognition.

And don't worry, recognition is spelled with a K to make it more raw. So here's what it is. Amazon Recognition provides a comprehensive set of face detection analysis and recognition features for image and video analysis. They've been doing this for a little while. And so here's exactly what it means. Facial analysis is the process of detecting a face within an image and extracting relevant face attributes from it.

So Amazon Recognition image takes the bounding box for each face. I love high technology. I love the kind of like nice reductive kind of phrasing of something really very terrifying. Oh, the soul extractor is the process of extracting your soul. Absolutely. Well, there is a little bit to that. Oh, good.

That actually does sort of happen. So the Amazon Recognition image returns the sort of box area around each face, detected an image along with the presence of attributes such as gender, whether or not they're wearing sunglasses. It detects gender. Fantastic. I get a turf robot. But also it detects whether or not you're wearing sunglasses

so no one can say if it's good or not. So it detects if you're cool, it detects what gender you are. And then face landmark points such as nose, nose width, ear, ear height, ear size, lips, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whether they have this. Yup, absolutely. Recognition video will return the faces detected in the video with time stamps and for each detected face give you basically a profile.

So that's what it is. This is what they already have. That's what they have and have been selling to like ICE for a while. Right. Here, are we ready for the horrifying development? I think the horrifying development came a little bit earlier for me than for some of you, but please go ahead. Although you could say also that that would make you like the best possible freedom fighter against Amazon.

Well, yes, that's true. You're basically, it's like, it's sort of like a gender-based dazzle paint where they have no idea how many genders anyone really has. And also it's not equipped to detect whether someone's wearing a hijab or not. You'd think that would be one of the first things they would do. We have detected an homage style individual. Yeah. If Amazon was a French company, the only protection would be wearing blackface

that would make you invisible to the machine. No, you just disguise yourself as Mohammed or a cartoon thereof. You feel like a sort of stylized bomb turban. So come on, if you dress yourself up as a cartoon of Mohammed, all that would happen is any French cartoonist in the area would like come up to you holding like a heart-shaped box of chocolates and a bunch of roses because they just love it so much. So anyway, are we ready to hear the actual, the new horrifying development?

Not saying it's more horrifying, but it's new and horrifying. Sure. Today, we are launching accuracy this from a press release and functionality improvements to our face analysis features. Face analysis, as we know, generates metadata about the detected faces in terms of like gender, age range, blah, blah, blah. As I said, attributes such as, quote, smile, and then face landmarks like we talked about.

With this new release, we have further improved the accuracy of gender identification. So, Alice, there we go. So that's solved. So we can take that off. That's good now. Yeah. So, Sora, you're no longer able to be an Amazon freedom fighter. And in addition, we have improved accuracy for emotion detection for all seven emotions.

All seven? The seven deadly emotions? Yeah, they worked off of a high tech piece of technology called a mood ring. They worked off a high tech piece of technology called bringing a bunch of tech bros into a room and asking them to list every emotion they think there is. Yeah, there's misogyny, social anxiety. Sadness, ennui. What's it called?

What's it called when you take Xanax and post? What emotion is that? Fulfillment. McDonald's breakfast. Okay, so all seven emotions that they've managed to brainstorm are the following. Happy. A classic. That's not real.

No one has that. It's conceptually possible. Spoken like a true leftist podcaster. Okay, we're all familiar with that one. So far, we have happy and sad. Two classics. You can't have a list of emotions if you don't have happy and sad. They're the Pokemon red and blue of emotions.

Very sad. Sad exclamation points. The end of a Trump tweet. Here's the third emotion. Angry. I think, you know. I don't want an algorithm to understand what anger is. If you were angry, why would you like go on Amazon?

The three emotions. Sad, happy and lunging desperately towards the control panel of the Amazon algorithm that has taken over your society in a desperate attempt to unplug it. For a small people. Going on Amazon angry and like ordering a machete. Oh, that'll show my wife's boyfriend. So happy, sad, angry. The three.

Fourth, surprised. For example, surprise, you lived in the US for like your entire life and now you're being deported to a country you have no memory of. It's a social experiment. It's an epic prank. Actually, also the angry one because it's programmed by tech bros. If it detects you're angry, it just says, what are you angry about until you flip out and yell at the camera?

That is a relationship bit. A classic bit of relationship comedy. So last three, last three. Disgusted. Classic emotion. It was fucking one as calm. That's not an emotion. That's the absence of strong emotions, isn't it?

Yeah, it's Zen, basically. It can detect if you're just kind of cool with what's going on. Stoic cameras and web services. We detected that you've experienced a state of atheraxia. Detects whether you're an Epicurean or not. Walk is like, yes. Subject was queotic. Repeat, queotic.

So we all have calm and we also have confused. So we have those. Those are the six. How do we, what do we think the seventh emotion is? The seventh emotion is possible to have. I bet it's something good. Horny, horny, horny. No, it's fear.

It's fear. Amazon has built a phrenology camera that senses fear. In my case, horny and fear tend to overlap. So this is fine for me. Your basis exists to confuse the camera. Yeah. Yeah. So it can detect.

So basically they have a camera that can detect if you're, I don't know, say if you're walking through a city center of a totally administered version of El Paso or I don't know Dover, it's only a matter of time before they start working with the border force or even if they start rolling this technology up to the border force, the Met Police or whatever. Let's say you just look a little bit at, let's say you just look a little bit agitated,

you're going to get like flagged up. Well, like that guy who got arrested for breach of the peace in London for trying to cover his face as he went past a Met Police fan, where they were trialling this fucking facial recognition software, which is what it is. Look, they're very serious about the game. If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. If you're happy and we know it, we clap our hands.

The camera sees the angry horny and scared all at the same time. So you get a text from the Met Police being like, you okay, hon? PM me ex. Met Police subscribe to my private snap. And also like, here's the other thing. Who knows who here on the call can tell me what IBM was up to in the 1930s and early 40s in Europe.

They were making punch cards for like a strange disruptive new startup called the Nazi Party. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is. American tech companies have long been comfortable in bed with fascism. Like the Holocaust is famously went to the Jim Crow South to get ideas on how to do racial segregation. Normal.

Yeah. Look, what I'm saying is like fascism is never just a one man band. It's always a super group. It's always a K-pop band. Yeah, it's always a K-pop band. People get really, really invested in it. They can get all of these people apart, even though they only really have like really reductive personalities.

So without IBM, the Nazi regime would have been like, they still would have tried to do the Holocaust and they would have done some elements of it, but it probably wouldn't have been like, it might have been like, it wouldn't have killed nearly as many people. It would have been more efficient. Again, like the IBM filled the concentration camps for the Nazi Party by providing them all of the information infrastructure

on exactly who lived everywhere. They conducted the censuses that eventually killed people. And Amazon is just lining up to do exactly the same thing. There are concentration camps and Amazon is helping to fill them. It's just now, instead of punch cards, they have a kind of like video enabled phrenological system. But have you considered that Jeff Bezos finds it very personally hurtful when people suggest that he takes an editorial line in the Washington Post?

Oh, yeah. Well, that's just as bad as anything that the totalitarian regimes of Europe ever did obviously. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. So who's to say what side is good at all? Because everyone who's paid by Jeff Bezos and is like a millionaire to defend this billionaire, they all don't like Bernie Sanders because he yelled at Tim Ryan.

They don't like yelling. These cameras, they have the millionaires and the billionaires. They have cameras that can tell when you're horny. The ordinary working Americans don't have this technology. They don't know when they're horny. I'm reminded, of course, of the movie within the show episode of The Simpsons called Honk If You're Horny, which was airing next to shenanigotes featuring Gary Shandling.

The goose version of that film, Horn If You're Honky. Have we considered what Jeff Bezos really wants is just a collection of lots of people's faces showing different expressions just so he knows what they look like? It's practice. No, that's practice. So if you're scared and you're horny, your mouth does a weird S shape

and your eyes kind of close and open at a 35 degree angle. So then he'll send those instructions to whoever rejigs his face every morning to be like, I want to look like that all day. Jeff Bezos just doing the S. We're just thinking of trying to learn facial expressions by rote. As a like, as collateral damage from that, we all just have our faces living in an AWS server. But then what it also means is that when he gets it wrong,

he'll kind of compute a frightened face. Well, that's why he got divorced, is that he computed that his wife was horny instead of... That's why they added the fear thing. And then they'll say like, Jeff Bezos, so you claim that you're sad about this new holocaust that you caused, but your face was showing a giant grin on your face. What's up with that?

And he'll just say something like, oh, our system just detected that is what a frightened face should look like. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing, isn't it, Jeff Bezos' career that's gone from, gee, I'm going to sell some books on this new thing called the Internet all the way through to, I have built a robot that detects fear. At what point did he transition into looking like, his whole thing kind of became about looking as much

and acting as much like Lex Luthor as possible? Did he just lean into the bald thing? Was he bald before he started Amazon? Or was he like, yeah, did he have hair, decide to start selling books, go bald and then go, okay, fine, motherfucker, if this is the way it's going to be. Both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos were losing their hair at around the same rate at around the same time.

You know, if you send Elon Musk the photo of him before the hair plugs, he will block you. Musk now got hair and a girlfriend and fucks. And he sucks, don't get me wrong, but all of his ludicrous ideas will just waste lots of money and then fail immediately. They won't actually do anything that nefarious. Because Jeff Bezos didn't get hair plugs.

As far as I'm aware, it doesn't fuck. And I mean, look at the text that he sent. And now is trying to destroy the world. Like, it's clearly, it's hair. The problem is hair. We just need to get to, we just need to, okay, this is the next Simpsons reference of the episode. We need to lure him to a door,

just like Homer lured George Bush to the door and then drop a wig on his head and glue it on. That we're going to save our entire species from like the hell to pay for a treehouse of horror. Are you suggesting though that Elon Musk is just Homer when he gets his hair? No, I'm saying that Jeff Bezos is George Bush without the clown wig and needs to be George Bush with the clown wig.

So Jeff Bezos is dark bald guy, but light bald guy is Jason Statham, obviously. Listen, if I don't develop an AI that detects fear in the next 15 minutes, listen, cupcake. Okay, he wouldn't have to develop an AI. He would have to like maybe be scanned by an AI. That's sort of more of the concept. That's a movie that we could pitch, you know, Crank 3,

where he has to just constantly have his face taken, have his photo taken by facial recognition cameras and CCTV. If we set it in London, it could be a rom-com. Nothing that that plot device would never even come into play. So I want to go a couple more points on recognition before we close out on the final segment. The ACLU has pointed out that this technology is primed for abuse in the hands of governments,

and that it poses a grave threat to communities, especially people of color and immigrants. Yeah, but there's the ACLU saying it, though. Well, they're not wrong. They're like, you know, tires and cucks, but they're not wrong. I guess. Why couldn't someone cooler have said it? Exactly.

Why couldn't it have been a YouTuber? Yes. Why couldn't it have been a podcaster? Damn, it's probably been some guy on a dirt bike. If it hadn't been one of my podcast faves instead of these lawyers who keep suing for like the free speech rights of Nazis. To be fair, if you listen to our episode

Free Speech Death Ray with Jonathan Shane, and we actually, from a while ago, we talk about how there's been a cultural change in the ACLU that they're like, we're no longer suing for the free speech rights of Nazis. And congratulations to them. So this also recognition is famously inaccurate. In July 2018, they attempted to identify members of Congress

and got 28 members wrong, a very high proportion of whom were black. I'm sure those things aren't related. But don't worry. They said that that still has a 95% success rate overall now that it's been updated, which for this kind of thing is pretty good. And Alice, you're the one who's a lawyer.

Can you remind me the burden of proof in something like a criminal investigation? We're 95% sure, right? Well, beyond reasonable doubt. The thing is that when you ask an expert witness like, say, a guy who programmed an Amazon facial recognition thing to get up on the stand and say, in your expert opinion, is that this person?

And they say, yes, that tends to be beyond reasonable doubt, even when it kind of isn't. Okay. So if we're comfortable with one in 20 people, who will be, by the way, disproportionately immigrants and people of color, who are disproportionately already misidentified by this thing, if we're confident that one in 20 of them were fine

with a wrongful conviction because our camera phrenology device just kind of fucked up because we gave it a randomized control trial burden of proof rather than a human one, then great. Riley, counterpoint. That's a lower proportion than the proportion of wrongly convicted black people in US jails right now.

Yes. That's what I'm saying. If I'm an Amazon guy, then if their numbers are correct, that's actually an improvement. It doesn't make it a good idea, but it still is. Ugh. Oh, man.

Every option sucks. I think Republicans like being against this because they're like, what? 95% of the black people in jail are going to be there because they actually did the crime. This is a disgrace. You've got to get that number down. Yeah.

But also we can take this even one step further, right? So remember in our episode a while back with Lori about the space colonies, we talked about like how Bezos or Bees, as he's called in college, wants to create these oddly like childlike, wondrous space habitats. Oh, this one's going to be ranch themed.

This one, you can be a cowboy. Watch his best world once. Yeah. This one's going to be Logan's run themed. If you want a preview of what that's going to be like, then look no further than this. He's basically trying to become the emperor from Dune and the emperor from 40K at the exact same time.

Not the bad, not the shitty emperor. I'm talking about Lido the second. I really hope that Jeff Bezos isn't listening to this and getting mad. And then when the world ends and we all have to go and live on Jeff Bezos' Amazon space stations, he gets really annoyed with us and makes us go and live on the Big Bang Theory themed one.

No, he's getting mad, but his face is just in the front of a gigantic sand worm. And he's like, well, I can't really like, there would be hypocritical of me to get mad about this. Episode title, episode title. Bees, Watts, Hatterac. Oh, fuck. What?

Fuck off. Our friend and colleague Riley is referencing a terrible sci-fi book and movie called Dune. Oh, excuse me. How low are his friends? Who in fucking rocks? Yeah, that's the episode title and you can't do anything about it.

Bees, Watts, Hatterac. No, it's not going to be the episode title. I'm going to raise this because... I have no idea what's going on. Should I watch Dune tonight? Will I figure it out? Yes. Oh, you should watch Dune.

It involves suits that like recycle people's piss, which is a very kind of trash future thing. Yeah, that sounds cool. Man, imagine how cool it would be if you could have like a business still suit. Riley, you'll like this though. Chris managed to invent a cocktail themed on Dune called the Quizzat Sazarak.

Yes. That's a joke for one person and it's Riley. Anyone else listening to this is not going to laugh. All right, so I want to do our final segment before I sign off because I have to go eat dinner because I spent all day on a train from Edinburgh. Just like we've revisited one of our old... This is all an episode about revisiting our old friends.

We're revisiting the Lib Dems. We've revisited Amazon. Now, guess what we're going to revisit next? We work. Our favorite startup. Our favorite little tech company that's mostly made of bricks. Yeah, so WeWork has made its initial public offering. You will be able to trade it and as a result,

it has filed one of the most delightfully, let's say, eccentric S1 forms, which requires a company to disclose all the elements of its business, its strategy. It's basically its pitch. It's what you file the SEC before you make an IPO and it's what people will be making investment decisions on. It's your official statement of where you are.

So the SEC filing confirms that what's going to happen is Adam Newman, the weird hippie who likes to talk about how he breaks his first, is going to maintain control of 50% of the voting power of the shares and that's worth about 4.1 billion. The second in command is chief culture officer and co-founder Miguel McKelvie. Chief culture officer.

Honestly, all these companies sound like a fucking Politburo. The general secretary. It's market Stalinism, but it's market Stalinism with a very cuddly end. So the fundraising that they have are looking for is 26 times their 2018 revenue and Boston Properties, the second largest public and trade real estate company

in the U.S. trades only at 12 times revenue. So it's basically saying, we're three times as good as the next people who have office space because, because, because we don't own anything. Didn't the yield curves just finally dip in such a way as to suggest that the next recession is going to be in about five minutes from now? Yes.

So it's important to invest in all of these inflated companies now so that you can get in when they're most valuable because you want the experience of owning WeWork when it's at the pinnacle of its value before this gigantic house of cards comes crashing down. Exactly. It's like having sex with Kathy Island at her most beautiful.

Now, sad. She's old, folks. Back in the day, she was hot. She was a fox. Bring into evidence my favorite Fox News infographic, which was tips for winning lottery buy as many tickets as you can afford. Also, I'd like to.

God damn it. I love Fox News. So this is also hot in the heels of Uber's IPO, which and it's of which its first earnings announcement has suggested that it lost $5 billion. Don't worry though. WeWork only lost $1.9 billion. I love to fail by losing more money than anyone of us.

That literally we work at the only company in history that's managed to lose money by being a landlord. Famously, the easiest fucking business in the world because it isn't even a business. It's just owning stuff and being like, Oh, would you like to use some of my stuff? How about you pay me? Right?

There's no costs involved in doing that. They're just fucking piss brain morons. They spent all the money on fucking bean bags and air hockey tables because they're a bunch of absolute fucking useless cunts. And now they're like, invest in our company. We all have brains made of wet cake. I'm super in here.

I'm going to swoop in here in defense of WeWork. Not in defense of WeWork as an institution, but the one because like the, you know, the male office in New York is in a WeWork. So I work in there sometimes. And the great thing that they do have is they have very good flavored water and base and someone in that company, someone in that building

spells out inspirational messages in slices like orange or lemon or watermelon, things like work harder and kill me. Just shoot me in the fucking head. Just spelling out the Amazon ambassador tweets. Inspiration is like 99% or 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration or something like that. Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein,

I'm going to now ask you a question and I would like you to answer me yes or no. Are those cucumber slices arranged in such a way that you believe them doing that is worth $47 billion as an enterprise value? Absolutely yes. Absolutely yes. Like where else am I going to get that? You know.

You can't arrange your own fruit. We spent $9 billion on very good flavored water and like technically it's a loss, but I think really it's a profit because we're getting that back in like inspiration and innovation and belief actually. Vibes, yeah.

Because money isn't real, it's just fake. It doesn't exist. I read about it on rumple.com. Ever since we went off the silver standard, the motherfuckers. What is money but a government backed vibe? So I'm now going to read from some of their S1 form because it's really interesting

and I like one of the phrases they keep using. We have proven that community, flexibility and cost efficiency can benefit the workplace needs of everyone from global citizens to global enterprises. We pioneered a quote space as a service membership model that offers the benefits of a collaborative culture, the flexibility to scale workspace up and down as needed in the power of a worldwide community, all for a lower cost.

Jeff Bezos is pioneering spice as a service. All they said is like we are renting out offices and we rent out lots of offices in a building because the offices are actually relatively small. Space is not a service. Space has never been a service. The entire universe is made of fucking space. The only way that space becomes a service

is when you just put fucking fences around it and be like, oh, if you want to use my space, you've got to pay me. Why is it your space? It's only your space because you showed up and took it off the last fucking guy and now you're charging me to use it. It's not a service, it's just space. It's literally empty.

There's nothing in it. You're not providing me with anything. This is fucking, these people have morons. Just a pro leveler rant. I want to be like the monorail guy but I propose the idea that we like fence the earth and then sell space as a service. I actually did some research

into what they mean by space as a service and I'll say two things. Number one, Milo, yeah, you're basically right. Your rant was pretty much correct. Number two, so check that off in your bingo cards because some fans made bingo cards. Number two, here's number two though. What they're really saying that they're offering

is that they say you, they can deploy you a new 200 seats of office space in two days in New York if you're Google and then they can scale it back down as necessary. The reason it's an analogy for as a service is it's kind of like software delivered through the cloud where if you have, I don't know, if you have Microsoft suite of products,

like Word or whatever, Microsoft delivers that as a subscription service so you don't have to go and install Word in a bunch of computers. Amazing. We do. I love not owning things. I love how, yeah, WeWork is the most pioneering

fucking company to have ever existed because much like my mum and dad at Christmas, they've got some fucking spare folding chairs in the garage. Jesus fucking wank. I love having my job moved to an office that just was formerly a warehouse and just inflated because Google needed

some more space or something. Oh yeah, because that's the thing, like this only exists to respond to the needs of tech companies that are going to like create and then vanish 200 jobs over the course of like an extended lunch. Yeah, it's great. Like we love that.

We love having a career that lasts for like an hour and maybe another 15 minutes if they get dessert. You know what Andy Warhol said in the future, everyone will have a career but for 15 minutes. Through iterative product development at scale and significant investment in technology infrastructure, we're developing a new kind of walls.

Well, here's the thing actually, they do have new kinds of technology and I'll refer you back to when we last spoke about WeWork. It's that it's covered with cameras and footfall detection that can track where every single identifiable person is in every single WeWork around the world so they can determine that people want coffee in the morning. And it's getting better at determining your gender, so...

We may have lost a lot of money on the flavored water but our cameras are showing us that we have billions of dollars worth of fear. We start by looking at space differently as a place to bring people together, build community and enhance productivity. No one's ever used a space for those things before. Literally nobody has ever used space before for anything like that.

I tend to just sort of walk around aimlessly and hope that matter just arranges itself into a useful combination in front of me. The Lib Dems? It's amazing that since ancient times people have not been able to use space to achieve their goals, not until the invention of WeWork in fact.

If only the Romans had known about space. What kind of room do you have to be to be like, we've disrupted space. We can kid up or down an office in a day because we're doing space as a subscription. It's what kind of room gets taken in by that and says, yep, $47 billion. In fact, I'll share you another little detail about this.

It's not in the notes, but that I happen to know, which is that J.P. Morgan dropped WeWork as one of their IPO partners. Do you know why they dropped WeWork? Was it because they're just a bunch of, because WeWork is run by fatuous idiots, four fatuous idiots and it's just a giant scam? No, it's because J.P. Morgan wanted to be the lead

of the IPO, of the IPO supporting banks. They're like, we haven't invested enough in this. Christ. This seems like a very healthy economic system that definitely isn't going to implode in, I don't know, any second now. I mean, J.P. Morgan, a bank run by Irish Americans, case closed.

Next, we add a team of over 2,500 trained community managers who foster human connection through collaboration and holistically support our members, both personally and professionally. That's an RA. You're adding an RA to your fucking office. What if an office had dorm logic? Oh, I love to say it.

Sometimes this show is really depressing. Doing this show can be very depressing. Lastly, with a persistent dedication to improving the member experience, we add products and services to our platform. So in this case, literally a platform that is a floor that is raised off of the ground. That's their fucking platform.

It's literally a platform, either by building them ourselves, acquiring them or entering into partnerships. Money can be exchanged for goods and services. We either make stuff, buy stuff, or hire someone to do the stuff. I can't wait for the WeWork press release in 10 years time that's going to be like,

now in every WeWork, there's a convenient private space where you can get some rest by and kill yourself without having your coworkers look at you ashamed. We know that suicide is an important part of the work day. They've invented doing a thing in a place, and then they've invented having people around. Was this written by Raphael Baer? At what point?

Are these like shoes or not like shoes? That was a premium episode we did with Julia Jakes. Listen to the premium episode with Julia Jakes for the shoe article if you want to get the shoe reference. As Yuri Gagarin said when he exited the capsule, I went to space and all I saw was inspirational messages and flavoured water. Live, laugh, love, there is no God.

A preview of my Edinburgh show. Man. God, just, it just, I don't know. Never has WeWork been better summed up than live, laugh, love, there is no God. There's nothing that more just summarises my sentiments about what like working in a WeWork would be like than live, laugh, love, there is no God.

Alright, I guess that could also be the episode title. Our purpose, built technology and operational expertise has allowed us to scale our core WeWork spaces as a service offering quickly while improving the quality of our solutions and decreasing the cost to find, build, fill and run our spaces. No, it's definitely not the fact that like there's just been cheap credit ever since this

stupid company was founded. They're just able to keep leveraging and leveraging and leveraging and borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and borrowing and new building. Not to keep going into how this is the Soviet Union but shit and expensive, but wasn't one of the major like things to hammer on during the Cold War

that every Soviet citizen lived in like identical pre-paneled Khrushchevka houses? Yeah, but now these have inspirational messages in them. They're written in cucumber. Yeah, we can do the same economies of scale but because we can cuss up some fucking fruit that kind of makes it all better. Yes, correct.

Every WeWork will have an alcoholic who lives in the staircase and shouts at you about the fucking Politburo. Go see Milo's Edinburgh show where he talks about his staircase alcoholic when he lived in Moscow. But yeah, also if we add this together with the Amazon thing, it's like, okay, cool.

We also have a secret police, a Gestapo. Everyone has to live and work in dorms and then live in dorms and then work in like a WeWork and it all seems as though it's based on the logic of nothing because they're just able to be like, yeah, we lost billions and billions of dollars.

We're still in charge of all the housing. It's literally getting more Soviet by the day. Yeah, but on the plus side, the Soviet Union did not have a computer that could detect when you were afraid. They had to rely on people for that, which... At least in the Soviet Union, you got given a house. Tech is like, I swear like the tech industry is just like golf.

They go play golf. They start a company that's like some dumb idea. It costs a lot of money to go and do it, but they all go and do it with their friends. They have a fun time. They lose the game of golf, but then they all end up getting into another game of golf next week with a different stupid idea

that costs a different load of money to be a member of a different course. And it just goes round and round because they're like, oh, what a fun game of golf we're all having with these companies that will never produce anything of any use, but fuck it. Plus both killing the planet.

So that's cool too. That is good. Okay. I'm going to round us out here. We have approximately 1,000 engineers, product designers, and machine learning scientists that are dedicated to building, integrating, and automating the complex systems we use to operate our business.

It dedicated to understanding your fear. Understanding how to use keys and locks to open and close the offices that you rent to people who run their various juice startups. And the locks break anyway and lock you out of your podcasting studio. One thing I can say about the we work in Brooklyn is that it's like the most complicated building

that I've been to. And I can't describe it, but all I can say is that I went out to go get some lunch outside of one building, and I somehow ended up in another, and then I was told that I couldn't get into that building unless I went outside of the building I was in and then used my car to go around the entrance

of the other one to get to where I was. And every floor looks exactly the same. So I don't know what fucking engineer is working in this thing. But like, yeah. Oh, geez. They're not even like done well. Like whoever's like designing or doing products and stuff isn't even good at what they're doing.

Although, hold on. Maybe they're very good at doing what is ultimately like a gerbil in a maze experiment. I mean, yeah. Because what's to say, you literally, hold on. Here's literally a thing here. What's to say that a company could not go to WeWork

and say, we're interested in seeing how people move through spaces. Can you please, can you just sell us the information? Anonymized, of course, about how your employees, people working at WeWorks, move through spaces. Because it's a totally administered area. There's literally nothing except the law, which we know is changeable and kind of optional for people like this anyway,

that will lead them to like not just run experiments on people working in there all the time anyway. I love to work in the Stanford Prison Experiment. It's good to me. Yeah. So all of these, those engineers, product designers and machine learning specialists that are putting Hussein in a rat maze,

actually, according to the S1, they work every day to support our community holistically, understand our members' personal and professional goals, program local experiences and events, recommend services, and make introductions among members who can help each other succeed. What about this is worth $47 billion? I have an idea.

I have an idea. What it might be, right, is that like actually WeWorks has tons of cameras everywhere. So they're taking pictures of like everyone's... They actually do. They literally do. They do have tons of cameras everywhere. And here's what I'm thinking.

They're taking pictures of everyone's like facial expressions and then building a giant database that they can then sell to Jeff Bezos. Or his private collection on... Oh, so maybe that's why the cuss up fruit is meant to like elicit surprised face in you. Jeff Bezos is general grievous, but instead of lightsaber, he collects human emotions.

Right. And he keeps all these pictures of like people's various human emotions on an island that he recently bought from a recently deceased man called Jeffrey. Well, that's the thing again, Hussein, you're doing a bit, but sure, why not? They literally have all this data. We know what happened the last time a company got

tons and tons of data about people's social interactions is Facebook and Cambridge Analytica. We work is just that, but for people's physical bodies, their movement patterns, all of it. It's all just getting totally administered. It's all just data. It's all just digital exhaust. Jeff Bezos actually has a giant book in his mansion

called the Facebook. So, okay. I have three more lines to go down. So this is focusing on the experiences and events. The events are one of many ways in which we view space as a place to bring people together and build communities. That's what space is for. You can do all kinds of things in space.

So to be clear, the event stuff is just literally when they'll do like, I don't know, like a barbecue or something, right? Yes. That's part of what makes this worth $47 billion. No one has thought of doing that before, ever. They invented the barbecue. They did. They invented the barbecue.

They invented like friends and RAs. They invented doing things in a place with other people. Invented walls. Each of our spaces is designed to make members feel welcome and at home and to encourage a sense of belonging. We believe that individuals are more productive when they are able to express their full and authentic selves. So we aspire to be as inclusive as possible.

We're at their most... Yeah, good. Excellent. Be yourself so long as what yourself involves is working for upwards of 24 hours a day. Yeah. Be yourself in the following ways. Happy, sad, surprised.

You know, they say that when you express fear, you work 10% harder. And that's why we've introduced these shot colors. We foster collaboration by providing design elements. Why is hers doing the horny emotion? We foster collaboration by providing design elements such as exposed internal staircases, open floor plans, communal meeting rooms,

and centrally located refreshments. They've invented people congregating in the kitchen at a party. I love centrally located refreshments. Exposed internal staircases, an important preserved habitat for the Russian staircase alcoholic. Think about that though. We believe that individuals are more productive when they're

able to express their full and authentic selves. But what they mean by their full and authentic selves is what? Like a relaxed dress code and some exposed brick? It just seems to be like the particular aesthetic of a cool person in Brooklyn in 2009 seems to have been made the universal one for the entirety of the human race.

This is also like all something that like Charles Manson could have written. Love to join the family. No, the problem is work though, isn't it? Like obviously they're not going to become situationists and abolish that, but at the same time, who experiences like their full personality when they're still fucking at the office?

Well, that's just the problem with this approach to, that's where you can kind of, they show their ass, right? Where it's like, you're going to express your full and authentic self to the extent that your full and authentic self is like a number of aesthetic choices. It's like a Fortnite skin. It's like that before the office. Just doing a floss dance for 17 hours a day.

I love spreadsheets and I don't care who knows it because it's a guy born in January thing. Right, and so like there's nothing about what you're doing, why you're doing it, who you're doing it for or who benefits crucially that gets to go into what your full and authentic self is. And so it's that you and 10 other programmers doing the same thing for the same reason

because you get to wear different shirts, all of your, you're not even being exploited at all. You're actually love it. You know what it is. You get to wear different shirts. You know what it is. It's the teen sort of naughty's t-shirt where you laugh because I'm different,

but I laugh because you're all the same. I've got the last... Hang on, WeWork is the Joker. You know how I got this space? Angel investors. I have the last line I'm going to read from this here right now. I mean, look, before I do that also, like there are a million angles to come at this from, right?

Like we spent also like my sex life. We didn't spend a lot on what I think is probably the more important one, which is that we're like, again, I don't know, we might wake up in a recession tomorrow or by the time this is out or by the end of the week or whatever, but it's probably coming.

Again, like my sex life. And you know, I mean, the fact is like the economy is only sort of lurching forward because we keep on like doing a fucking adrenaline shot of cheap credit into all of these gigantic loss-making tech companies. So they're able to subsidize the dumbest shit like Uber and WeWork and whatever.

It's just, it is massive subsidies to keep the economy chugging along. Just instead of coming from the government, they're coming from the holders of capital like Andreessen Horowitz. Listen, Riley, this is very sound logic, right? You know, you're just doing coke and you'll never have a hangover

if you just keep doing more coke. That's how it works. And if we want to look at what a command economy looks like when it's not even notionally democratically controlled, increasingly we're living in one. Anyway, I want to go to the bottom, the final line, which is all of our spaces follow global design guidelines but reflect freedom of expression at a local level

as part of our global local playbook. So don't worry, you're still free to express yourself so long as you limit your expression to what kind of vase is in the front or what the cucumbers spell out. Yeah, I can slightly rearrange my staircase. Yeah, they follow global design guidelines and they're not building buildings

that are just going to collapse because they're not built according to any architectural principles. Yeah, guideline number one, have walls. Yeah, we're complying with the laws of physics. Don't worry, guys. Anyway, I think that's going to be all for us today. Sorry to bum you all out again. I know I certainly bum myself out

but it falls only for me to thank everybody involved. We're always bumming ourselves. Don't do it, Alice. Do not. Fine, I'm saving it for the premium episode though. That's the cold open for the premium episode. And I think Milo, we plugged your show at the beginning but here's another reminder, go see it. Also, we've got the Patreon, five bucks a month.

You know the deal. You get a second episode every week and we still have ML shirts left. We have basically no smalls. We have literally no extra smalls or XLs. So if you are an ML or a 2XL, so if you're a 2XL or an ML then order some of our shirts.

They are very, very cool. Alright, everybody. 2XL is a double, double, extremely Leninist. Okay, I'm turning off the call now. Bye, everybody.