TRASHFUTURE - National Gooning Database

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

The gang talks about the upward spiral of xenophobia that the UK's moderates think they can keep riding to stay in power - the Rwanda Bill, new immigration restrictions, and so on, before moving onto the new Online Safety Bill and its potential to create a kind of AI overmind of British goons. However, the rest of this episode needs only three words: Georgian Peter Griffin.   If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture Medical Aid for Palestinians: www.map.org.uk *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

Hello everyone and welcome to this it's Thursday. It's the free one. Free episode of TF. That's right. I know the days of the week now. You challenged me and I rose to the challenge. Next, you're gonna be learning more than just basic shapes. That's right. I can put them all, well I won't tell that actually with the shapes sort of most of them fit through the square. So like, yeah.

The round peg goes in the square hole just fine. I wanna imagine, like kindergarten LinkedIn, where it's just like, are you wasting, are you wasting valuable snack time, putting matching shapes to halls, try my square hall method? Actually, a certified expert in nap time. I wake up from my nap at 4 p.m. and immediately begin managing my Bitcoin portfolio. Well, I'm selling rusks to the people in kindergarten A. Speaking of Bitcoin, do you know that Bitcoin is back?

Yes, that's right. After the, well, every week Bitcoin is back and then it never really stays back. Well, let me be clear. Bitcoin isn't back. It's what's happened is the Fed has indicated that they're probably done their tightening cycle and they may start cutting soon, which means that that bulking season is over, fellas.

The Fed is gonna start getting shredded. Yeah, they're done bulking the economy and they're now trying to shred. So, of course, obviously, like an asset like Bitcoin, people will just flood into because it's speculative. So, but what I've noticed, which is really fun, is that you can almost think of this as like a technical indicator.

When Bitcoin crosses $40,000, then immediately it starts generating blog posts about how it's the future of Western civilization again. And it's above the $40,000 parapet and people are like, oh, Bitcoin's back. It's like a wacky inflatable, on-flailing tube band from in front of a collodetless ship. It crossing $40,000 is like it being turned on and it starts like waving its arms and stuff as though it's alive. And people are like, it's all right, we were wrong. It's back.

And then eventually the power gets turned off again. People are like, oh, well, yes, that goes that dream. Yeah. And also, of course, the speculation that a Bitcoin ETF could be approved soon means of course people are flooding in hoping either to find a sucker or to have invested in the future of money while everyone else has fun being poor. Oh, so I don't have a sucker to find a sucker or to be a sucker then.

Indeed. And the more that number goes up, the more people pile into one of those two camps. Yeah, anything you find a sucker or you get sucked. up, the more people pile into one of those two camps. Yeah. Anything you find a sucker or you get sucked. The two genders. So what's really funny though is like, um, I was, I, I tend to follow this stuff. Um, I, I, I'll look like, Oh yeah. Uh, JP Morgan is doing a new bank in D central land as like a crypto education center.

What are they doing with that now? And they've mothballed that particular virtual room. Oh, surprising. Mothballed a virtual room, there's like virtual moths that are being kept out by the virtual mothballs. But he lights off in that virtual room, JP Morgan. But now that it's about,

they can open up that virtual room again so that people can come learn about crypto in the metaverse with JP Morgan. Yeah, but don't that now with legs. Well, you know, look, yeah, we know, look, what they say is like there are virtual rooms if your friends and there are, but don't that now with Lex. Well, you know, look, yeah, we know, look, what they say is, like, there are virtual rooms, if you're friends, and there are virtual rooms, like, that are filled with sharks.

I think, I think that's what the financial product was. I can't remember. Is Fortnite overrated? A question being asked in JP Morgan's virtual room? Well, what I thought was really, like, a hold-over from the last crypto speculative bubble was something that was sent to me by some friends at the FT. Some friends of ours. Some friends only on the other side of the FTP wall.

Some friends. Some friends of ours at Alphaville. Have sent to us. Yeah, Wiggins is connected. Have sent to us. Find the bars in Hong Kong. You know what I'm saying? I sent to find the vase in Hong Kong, you know what I'm saying? This, this, this, this revelation that France, while

courting its cryptocurrency industry players, right, Binance was their chosen winner, which is admittedly very funny because he's like, being at the L.A. Pals and arrested like moments later. So Binance, right. Binance is, um, uh, warmed its way into the French state, right? My friends. CZ was a little bit like Sam,

uh, uh, Bankman Fried was to, uh, you know, the Americans were regulatory atmosphere. Yeah, he was, he was Sam Boncone, free. Very good, very good. Uh, so, he says, uh, Behind a seemingly benevolent charity program, Binance has used aggressive tactics to solicit people

to use it's services in some of France's most deprived areas. Its promise was to train students from all walks of life, the technical skills required to find employment in blockchain-related industries. And so people would be... Avivé, dove, doge, coin. So people would... Che, coin.

Can I sell you some doge, coin? Utilize it. Rats, you'd be per- Ezyrim. Schia Kwa? Gann ein Cellars am Deutsch guann? Utilizer. Ratsch, Utilizer, Easierim. Easimösverset, Teil, Pillblock, Chain. Ja. Und Contract, Smart. Ich bin so ja,

ich kann nicht, ich bin das Liste in der Musikerplastik, Bertrand und Diesel. Wir müssen nicht dieses Spotify, weil wir ein Freund haben, wir haben uns sehen, it is called diesel. So if you're like accepting like work benefits in France, like welfare benefits, you can be compelled to do a very,

like here, you know, you can be compelled to do various things. Oh yeah, you have a coach to work who, to your coach to Travai, who will send you on a little course. So that you're coach to Travai, who will send you on a little course, so that you're coach to Travai. But your coach to Travai, in this case, is a Binance employee. So in the article, it says, last October, it's really funny to go, okay, we've got in

the experts in having a real job for a tow guy. What the course is, right? It's a very little programming. It's mostly just blockchain awareness. And what we all know is that, you have to do like a blockchain awareness course. Your court-ordered Binance commercial. Yeah, it's like, it's, so, the course,

you feel because you couldn't even be nice. It's like, it lasted half a day They, uh, the course. You feel because you couldn't even be nice. It says it lasted half a day and consisted of a slideshow on blockchain technology, followed by a short practical exercises. Moreover, the practical exercises. Like coding exercises. Oh, okay. Students received Binance Goodie Begg's branded hats, promotional leap books, notebooks,

excuse me, they were asked to download Metamask wallets. And then in the class, they were told they needed to set up an account on Binance to receive their NFT diploma and then receive dozens of promotional emails encouraging them to gamble. It's essentially like saying to someone 50 years ago, hey, you're out of a job, don't worry, go down to the dog track and either you can work at the dog track or maybe make some money betting I let track you sure yeah Yeah Depuis your a garlic shed

This is properly fucked though the idea that that like, oh, you can't find work, well, have we got a scam for you? In a sense, there are a few things, I think, that are extremely honest, and this is one of them, which is, yeah, can't find one. Academies are scams, what are you getting to the scam business? Yeah. I mean, not the worst advice, to be honest.

Yeah, so what else can you do in France? I mean, come on, sell strings of garlic. Starts up nice. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, but I'd like to cross the channel back across the UK. Unfortunately, they're making that harder and harder to do. Indeed, this is part of the problem. Well, I don't know if you all knew this,

but we are in fact a reasonable country and our patients has now run out. So it's tweeted out by the 10 Downing Street official account. Oh, hot man. Like, Rishi Sunak pulling this shit is sad and dire. Can we get this in the Sunak voice, please? We're a reasonable country, but our patients has now run out. Our parliament is sovereign,

and it should be able to make decisions that cannot be undone in our court. That's what this emergency legislation delivers. I love it when legislation can't be challenged in a court. The things that are supposed to adjudicate legislation. That's good. So the thing that's currently happening now is the Tory party is in a kind of like minor civil war more than usual. Because what is it they want to do with what the emergency legislation? Okay, so what they want to do, we've talked about this before, is to deport pretty much anyone they want to Rwanda.

And the Supreme Court said, no, you can't do that because you haven't done the correct like scrutiny to prove that Rwanda is a safe place to deport people too. And they're like, guys, the reason why we didn't do that scrutiny is because it's not. So if we did the scrutiny, then it would just say you can't do that. So obviously we're not going to do it. Like, what's the problem? Exactly.

Exactly. And so essentially, you cannot do what they want to do, which is to deport these people legally. And so what you have instead is this divide in the Tory party between the sort of honest minority of far right fascist wingnuts like Leanderson, who are just saying, okay, we'll do it without the pretense of legality in just to do it. And then some kind of milky, like one nation Tory nation tourist who are like, you don't do that. And then this sort of coward center embodied by Rishi Sunak, who was like, okay, well, what we want to do is impossible to do legally.

What we are going to do is try harder. And so you have this, well, no, not a sort of like try to make it legal to do the illegal thing in a way that we'll not work. So what the bill that has that's coming through it legal to do the illegal thing in a way that will not work. So what the bill that's coming through is going to do is essentially it is going to tell British courts, no, Rwanda is a safe country, trust us. We've made it legal. We've written it down. That is what the logic is.

Exactly. I remember how a legal, there was a legal distinction between a Scotch egg being a meal or not if it served with a salad. It's this same application of just one lens, right? Of trying to sort of force reality through it. We just call it an ink. Yeah, that was pleased to hear.

And there are some provisions in there that they like exempt bits of the human rights act from being applied here And they specifically say that you can't if the EC HR if the European Court of Human Rights is like trying to stay a flight It's trying to like stop a flight from taking off you are forced to ignore that but Despite the fact that this is already like constitutionally ruinous and terrible It still allows as the this is what the Tory right have ruinous and terrible, it still allows, as this is what the Tory right have been going and saying about, it still allows the prospect of individual

legal challenges from people who are being deported because they're people. And what the Tory right want is, no, you should not have any legal process around this whatsoever, because you cannot stop using the kind of legal framework that we have already, just one individual person that you are deporting from being able to go to court and say, is this legal or not? And that's what they want to do, and it's not really possible. I do really like the idea that even in this sort of push this figure as like legislation, which isn't really quite legislation, it's more of a sort of like this is how we view the world. And if you say anything to the contrary,

then we're gonna deport you to Rwanda. Well, like within that is also just like you like to get to Rwanda. Well, you can be deported to Rwanda, but you have to buy a cider and also a carvery dinner. That's right. But like, built within that is also just this attempt for Vittoris to do their favorite thing,

which is not to govern but still hold power. And so to me, this sort of, it does really speak to this idea of even at this stage where they are sort of seeking like the most desperate strategies and solutions to push this through to sort of like meet this one goal Which like everyone has said right from the offset. This is not gonna happen like again like forces of the world Which has which has not just like the fact that people move and have always moved But the fact that climate catastrophe and wars will mean that this happens

more and more regularly, and if you don't build the infrastructure or at least make an effort to could tell that, and this is going to continue to happen, they're a very brave movement, wants to build some infrastructure though. Have you heard about this? Her latest position that she has staked out for attention is we should do night and gale detention centers after the sort of model of night and gale detention centers. And we should just wait and get guess what? Once again, have the military do it, have the army do it, get the MOD in. Sorry, the Florence Nightingale Extrud. Yes, yes. Such a funny concept.

And like, to be honest, it would be more correctly reflective of for a giant gale's legacy in the sense of how many people will fucking die in them. But, yeah. I don't know whether we said this on the show, whether I heard it from somewhere else, but it is basically a few steps removed from the Pad Paddington, Paddington theme black sites. Yeah. Yeah. Where you get deported to Peru on the Paddington flight. I mean, I will put down a marker now, right, which is

it is impossible to deport anyone to Rwanda with the like and still pretend that you're doing it legally. I think it is far more likely than not that no one will be deported to Rwanda, that it was a deadlesser as soon as the Super Mcore judgment came down. And what this is is a series of like scuffles around who is going to be, you know, where the battle lines are going to be for the next Tory civil war. And Robert Genrex, the immigration minister, who was like in this kind of like, Sunack, like, cowardice caucus, sort of noisily resigned to join the far right here. And it's like, okay, well, this is making it very clear

that this kind of Sunack managerial position is not anywhere that the Tory party is gonna be going in the world. It's amazing to be resigning over this and be resigning in the opposite direction. Like, you're not doing enough in sane right wing Shit, however may I also say that it is very darkly funny that the only government globally that the tourists could get to Co-operate with them on this kind of like rubbleberg deportation scheme was Miranda because the only country which is like our PR can't be damaged

By cooperating with the British Tory party is one who's like, you've heard of us for the genocide. However, and it gets worse because now they won't. Like this is the thing, Miranda, threatening to pull out of the deal. If the deal is like, you know, breaks international law, which any implementation of it would flagrantly. So it's it's just a lot of pull back though, right? And look at the logic of what's happening. And it's something that we've seen the edges of for a while, and we've been trying to suss out, which is that we've seen what the dynamic is of

rightward movement in the Tory, in the Tory policy, which is basically that as they run out of fat, they start cutting bone and cutting bone involves things like looking at the institution, looking at the institutions that they have in the past, looking at a lot of the institutions that even capital likes, right? There's not like a capital or a certain kind of capital tends to quite like things like international human rights legislation because it makes it more predictable to operate between countries, right? And it already stacks the deck in favor of the state.

Like you're sort of you are walking away from a card game that is rigged in your favor. And this is it reminds me a little bit of what they've, even what things like they've done with either how Brexit works or even like the Liz Trust budget, which is that you harness these forces because they're useful in the short term. And then you don't worry about it. You, these sort of institutionalist Tory, as opposed to the revolutionary Tory, right?

They're all revolutionaries underneath. It's just how many layers of institutionalist underneath or are you a Revolutionary right because you say oh well hang on this it's always this far and no further It would be like well. I liked all of the austerity, but I really don't like all of this sort of you might say reaction to it that has sort of and there is anti-establishment reaction to it. I really really liked that has sort of anti-establishment reaction to it. I really, really liked all of the electoral successes that we've gotten over pandering to racist daily mail readers

and encouraging them to be more racist, and a feedback loop with the papers. But hang on, now we're getting rid of the human rights act, this far and no further, this far and no further. And it's because that engine, it's an elephant that you think you can ride if you're a part of, as you say, the cowards caucus, which you say, well, we know we have to be...

That's what I've got to get about a name. We know we have to be racist, but we feel squeamish about it. We think we can ride the wave of nativism and then stop it. We think we can sit on and ride this elephant and then stop it where we choose. And again and again and again and again, it shows that, no, the elephant always just keeps going. right? Like the one you start, it never forgets. Yeah. So

like when you're playing polo for some reason, I mean, the post that your settlement, right? Post that your settlement that we've talked about before that it demands this kind of maximalism because it says, look, here's the deal, right? We are going to, we're going to keep cutting away bits of the state and we're going to give, what we're going to give, a favored section of the population is bigotry for them. We are going to, we are going to enact punishment on people you don't like. But the problem is, is that soon,

and it was always a problem, right? But when sort of nice squishy liberals start getting really worried about it, it's because that has to keep going, right? That can't stop. If you're going to keep on winding down the state as a going concern, if you're gonna keep operating according to ironclad physical rules,

if you have to keep giving out the bigotry to keep people politically engaged, you're gonna run out of people to be bigoted against, that were originally okay to be bigoted against as far as your concern. This is the same thing that's happened with the new migration rules, where you now have to make an impossible amount of money

if you want to have a partner that, you know, your spouse or perspective, spouse immigrate to the UK. And it's the thing now where you're seeing on Twitter, oh, this is affecting me, a Guardian columnist, right? Because in the same way that we've cut public services until there's nothing left to cut, that the like really, really obvious stuff, where you go, wait a second, why isn't there an ambulance turning up anymore? In the same way, now we've kind of, we've brutalized all of the people

who in the sort of imagination of a guardian columnist do not matter. And now we're starting to brutalize the people who do, which is their kids who can't like, you know, move home with their American girlfriend or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, look, the NHS is fucked. Everything's fucked. You can't get adopted. You can't get an ambulance, whatever. But listen to this. Some unemployed geezer in France add to watch a PowerPoint presentation about the norms. Due to forces which are in some ways connected. So isn't that worth it really? And you think about it. And when I talk about cuts as well, I'm not just talking about cuts to service, but even

just reductions in things like basic decency, right? When I say basic decency, I'm not using this in a sort of pearl clutch and columnist sense, but in just, for example, in reductions in treating, yeah. Kind of can. People are not nice anymore. Yeah. But what I also am talking about is like, I've read pearl clutching's columns. I mean, she is. She is.

What I mean, really, what I mean mean really is about like treating people as humans. This slow, you can look at the way that Britain has treated its immigrants as being a one-way street of things getting tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter and eventually just like you can't keep cutting till you hit bone, you can't keep tightening until you start being like, well, what we want to do is in conflict with the basic law. Yeah. And all Hong Kong's basic law are different, different. But what if we change the law?

Yeah, exactly. What if, what if those contradictions that we've sort of heightened to a completely untannable level? What if we just said, uh, no, they're not. What if we did the plot of the film, the purge? Well, it's, it's getting closer every year, I feel. Alice, you've basically raised the keyestormer strategy. Yes, yes.

For one night, totally. Crime will be legal. Now, I don't encourage people to engage in crime, but if you're while planning to engage on crime, this would be the time to do so, to engage in crime in the correct way, in a responsible and proportionate way. I myself will be engaging in a small amount of crime, perhaps graffiti, or not putting a coin in the honesty box when taking one of those charity sweeties. However,

I will be shaking my head as I do it so that people know that I disapprove of the action. So in the morning we all come back much more responsible members of society for having seen the damage that this kind of reckless rule on following can wreak. Just do a little bit of crime, get it all out of your system. That's right. Yeah. I do like the idea of Keir's or just like, I'm not going, like, we don't know what he does with his car. Maybe like, the crime I'm going to do on

purpose, that's right. I'm going to tear up this fixed charge penalty notice that I got for not wearing a seatbelt. Just like watching, watching the clock as the second hand hits the beginning of purge night, holding a captive bolt pistol aimed at an alpaca in the other hand. Oh my God, if that worked, if they introduced purgels and you could just sit in your house safely and just tear up every parking and speeding ticket

you'd ever got, I'd be like, bring it in, bring it in! Bring it in! So, a starmer said, the government has scaled down its predictions for how many people would be deported to Rwanda saying, the current number of people sent their remains stubbornly consistent at zero. And though that this is the problem. This is the storm of line, right?

Is that like it's wrong to do this, but it's also pathetic that they can't. I mean, to be fair, that he's sort of on the point that it's true. It's quite funny that they also can't even do the bad thing that they want to do. But it's the, the problem is, is labor is saying, this is expensive, we'll stop the boat to better way. Yeah, that's right. With apps or something, I don't know. By talking to them, by saying, look, your cupboard here, they incorrect way.

What you need to do is fill out a four. For purge night, the form is illegal. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. You're legal migrant migrant if you survive the night, you know? Yeah, that's right. So how, so he also he noticed, I tell you what, I back people have come from Syria to survive the per genite.

And that's more so than the average British person. We're selecting for the kind of strongest and toughest survivors of per genite to then run the NHS. So. Yeah, I mean, a guy who's made it on a dingy, so Calle is gonna twat the average guy who hates him. I'm pretty confident. So it says, at the same time, article 19 of the treaty

says, a party shall make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda's most vulnerable you refugees in the United Kingdom. No, we're not gonna do that. No, no, because the treaty's going to be null and void immediately because it breaks like five international laws. Yes. Yeah.

So what were you, what we have done, and this is again, Starmer's line that this is wasteful and also funny, and I need to have to hand it to him. What we have done is we have handed the Rwandan government 140 million quid to do fuck all. Yeah, which I mean to be fair, in the context of people whoan government 140 million quid to do fuck all. Yeah, which I mean to be fair in the context of people who've handed 140 million quid to do fuck all to it's probably not even the most egregious. No. A bunch of people who just live in Suffolk who that's happened to. Living in the richest postcode in the UK people live within a mile of man got. Giving giving Rwandan's government 140 million quid and being like, get yourself something nice.

Don't spend the whole one place. They're gonna turn that refugee camp into a fucking parkour center. But fundamentally, right, right. What, what Starmer is saying is, is that he and the Labour Party would start people coming to Britain more effectively, that he would also retain most of the new immigration

changes because there again, this consensus that immigration into the country has to come down, which is unfitable. And as long as that consensus remains, there's going to be the full fat option of Swela Braverman saying, I'm going to do the full promise of this nativism that you're trying to harness. So I'm going to go on for the years and years timeline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's showing you her presentation that you're trying to harness. So jump us onto the years timeline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's showing you her presentation and you're like,

this is illegal because this is just children of men that you've put a label on. You have plagiarized children of men. So, and the other thing right is, is that the exchange concluded by saying, um, Starmor saying there was mention of Margaret Thatcher. How did the Tory party go from quote, up yours deloures to quote, take our money, Kagame, not kind of a forced rhyme there. Oh, I fucking love as a kiezing. Yeah. Um, Sunek responded saying, uh, Starmor can quote, role play Margaret Thatcher

all he wants, but when it comes to to europe his answer is the same yes yes yes to the two-man play Margaret thatcher all he wants but when i asked my wife to do it she says it's weird it to two two men in a massive lot each accusing the other of lapping is yeah just a perfect giving over who would think of the but yeah genuinely it's like this fucking rear guard action in the last six months of Tory bullshit, which is, you know, just ramping up so there's some new depressing story every day. There's a, you know, a bunch more

trans shit, inevitably, there's a bunch more migration shit, inevitably. And it's just like, this is it, it exists solely to like stress us out and make a daily mail reader who is gonna die on election night when You know, have mass loving care. Starma is the next prime minister of the United Kingdom You know has you know Make them feel a little bit more comfortable in their last sort of few months. Yeah, yeah, Starma So I mean this is something that I think outside. You and I talked about earlier. Sorry.

It's good. I welcome the Kafa. So I want to encourage some to Garfava, but... To revolts into the lot of Islam. To wrap things towards Takfiya stoma, though. No, negative dialectics is when the thesis and the antithesis just negate one another and all you're left with is two men claiming to be the heir to that you're calling the other soft Oh, I mean it's kind of like the the late Roman Republic in that way

Everyone's arguing over over who's whose dad she really was, you know Patrick why did back on yeah, yeah, we should. But the question is, who is lepidus? My vote is possibly, I mean, possibly fucking Robert Jenner. Yeah, it could be. I mean, he does, if I can use a different Roman, have a lean and hungry look, you know? I want to move on to one more thing before we talk about it. It's either a startup or an article. Do you like Jack in it? I love Jack.

But most of all, I love to Jack in a way that the government doesn't closely follow. Oh, bad luck, I'm afraid. Yeah, that's because the online safety bill is now law. Another impossible thing. Another thing that they were told time and time again, every means of implementing this is totally impractical and will make you look stupid. And then they go, all right, fine, we'll do it anyway.

Well, here's the thing though, actually. The a startup called Yoti, this isn't the startup today, this is just another one, has come in to say, hey, we have AI that can age estimate people based on a photograph. Oh, we've got the pedophilia AI. But the thing is, that's really dark because there's a migration angle there, because the home office is always, always in like tribunals and shit with migrants, with refugees and asylum

seekers who it's disputing the age of. One of their favorite things to do is to go, listen, you might say that you're a 12-year-old boy, but we think you're actually 46 and therefore we're going to deport you back to Syria. And if the online safety bill requires an AI, you know, age estimation service, not only is that software going to exist, it's going to exist in government. And then you can say, in a court, in an immigration tribunal, this is the world-leading thing that we've determined, you know, that the government already uses to determine who's allowed to jack off or not.

It's already being used on the national gooning database, isn't that enough, therefore, to deport someone to Syria with. Look, if you want to work out if a boy is underage in the Ulyb-Rudish government, all you've got to do is show their picture to various members of the House of Lords and have them hooked up to a heart rate monitor and see what happens. So, one of the new age detector, the B.B. We've invented a new age detector. He's one of the remaining hereditary peers.

That's right. The Yoti is the company that I think they're going to have to it, which is this. It has an A-gestimator, but also that's hooked into a Yoti citizen card. So the dream of Tony Blair, just like VHS, VHS one, because that's where porn went, the dream of Tony Blair may be realized by British great, the great British gooning. This is ironic, because B-SIM acts would be a much better name for a poor ID card. Cid isn't present your ID card in order to goon. Like, and I mean, just decide for me

nothing else, right? The blackmail possibilities, because the British government and its contractors, notoriously bad at securing information, whatever form. And even if you say, oh, this isn't identifiable or, you know, this isn't tied to whatever, like usage or whatever. We delete your photo as soon as we verify the information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, first of all, that's always a lie. Second of all, like, there is, there are potentially compromising things with the question, is this person on the national gooning database?

Why have they been like referred onto the national gooning database? Because have they clicked there from like, you know, biggaycox.com, and therefore you're, you know, you can make some inference about their sexuality from there. I was only on biggaycox.com to get directions away from there. I thought it was going to help improve the UK's chicken industry.

That's right. Yep. And also what I have no problem with big gay cocks, they have no interest to be personally, but I also don't reject them. I think that's a fine website for certain members of the community to visit. I personally was on big straight cocks. Wait a minute. So you had a lot of star mileage today.

Yeah, that would be good. No, but so just for Americans, they'll back up a little context. Or other non-British people. The online safety bill has a huge, it's a very broadly drafted piece of legislation. And that's how you know it's good. That once again creates a lot of things

that companies can't really do. Oh, right. Quick question. Is it carefully worded? No. Oh, I mean, good. Because there is, I sympathize a tiny bit in that there is a harm, right? In that like pornography is clearly extremely available on the internet.

The kind of pornography that's available on the internet is, again, not mild, right? And it's being increasingly sort of like delivered involuntarily to like children and particularly children at like lower and lower ages all the time, right? But because this is already a cultural war, all of the sex education that can be delivered in like a responsible way, that has to happen in like a less explicit and like older age as the pornography is taking over in the opposite. And so now that's grooming. Yeah. So now you have this situation where, you know, the fucking kids can, I'll do the ad bus this thing can recognize Riley Reid, but not the national flag or whatever. More children can recognize Riley Reid. You're

going into like sex education at the age of 16 or whatever, not knowing how someone gets pregnant but knowing what back shots are. And it's like, there's no idea how to draw a union jack. Yeah, I mean, this is clearly this is fucked, right? But I'm not sure that the answer is the big gooning database. Well, it's ultimately, right?

This is so many of the problems that people have, that they get ultimately from their lives being lived, solitary, and mediated by a computer or a phone. Those problems of alienation. Good evening, listener. Yes. Those are problems of alienation, right? Those are problems of alienation. Good evening, listener. Yeah. Those are problems of alienation. Right?

Those are problems of people being separated from one another. We alienated our terrible Guna children. Like, yeah. They're going to have to take care of us in our old age. And, you know, I just, I don't think it's necessarily a conservative point of view that if you can't cross the road on your own, you should not know who Miracle Leafer is, right? But I won't meet Goon a children.

I won't them. I said, if you support Arsenal, you know Santa mind. They didn't listen. Yeah, well, looking five years time, there won't be any old age homes. They'll just be old age Goon caves. And there won't be any homes. They'll just be Goon caves.

And you'll have Goon cave landlords. And I'll be like a whole thing. Like, you know, I'm choosing to see this as an opportunity where a new real estate market of Goon-based, real or Goon-based property. We have failed this generation or two coming so, so badly. Not only have we made their planet uninhabitable in their lifetimes, but we've also gotten them all hooked on the worst on a match. And then, but then they'll be on a database

if they go into it. So it's a nightmare. Yeah, I mean, I was listening to a radio debate about this. Of course. Of course, it was on Jeremy Fat ropes. And there was just the framing of the debate where it's like, oh, you know, like this may not have been on Jeremy by ropes. And, um, there was just, you know, just the framing of the debate where it's like, oh, you know, like, uh, this may not have been on Jeremy Vine.

Now, I don't want to impune Jeremy Vine. There was a radio subject about it anyway. And they're just kind of being like, well, you know, something's gotta be done about teenagers accessing porn, which like, as I said, there are some issues with it, but also this is something that teenagers have done since like at least the 20th century

Like accessing porn to some extent But where I was like, oh, you know what's not a problem? You know what couldn't cause any issues whatsoever? Having a fucking biometric database of anyone who's ever had a wank like there's no way Yeah, if a 13 year old wankster a Riley read video that's a disaster That's just got also we wouldn't do any sex education or child safeguarding any meaningful sense Cuz we don't really care about children, but as a child war is a child what was a culture war issue? That's terrible However

If you have a child war is would be good. That's right bringing Kony now But if you have a database of every single guy who's ever went to anything and what he or she or they have went to You know that's just fine. What's the problem? Well, how could that be misused? I can't think of a reason. That makes no one blackmailable. Because everyone's on there.

You know, everyone's fucked. Imagine getting access to Peter Mendelsohn's wank bank. Good God. Well, we trust you all so research. Just learn pack on the stand. Why is that? There is a distinct difference, I think,

between, like, I don't know, finding a playboy at the age of 13 some years ago, and then the fact that so many... Like the articles, so many, yeah, finding it for, like, you know, updick on the Martini. You two have to read news in briefs in the sun. And clearly, this stuff is not deterministic, right?

Because when I was in school, like, yeah, obviously fucking like FHM or whatever or Maxim was like around, sure. And can we honestly say that I turned out normal? I don't think so, right? But, like, this is, yeah, this is also an opportunity in some ways, because it might bring back the, it might bring back like the nuts and zoo magazines. I'm not endorsing them. What I am, but what I am saying is that without nuts and zoo magazine and the wonderful articles that were written in there, we wouldn't have people

like Martin Dubney. It's true. Lucy Pindus, Society needs you back. Licing up the Kelly Brook signal. There is a qualitative difference between that and how most feeds of content on the internet now are designed to be as addictive and to as as stakes raising as possible. You know, and it's the the teens watching like worryingly intense BDSM pornography with subway surfer on the corner and like Funny guy family funny fucking hell Family funny guy. Yeah, I'm turning 80 years old as I talk about this and family guy funniest moments

American stepdad. Yeah, yeah The Georgian like illegal copy of American dad. But I think to try to... I work for the CIA. Probably does, to be fair. Come here, I'm going to fuck the alien. I've just been elected for Georgia dream party and I'm going to be Ukraine economy minister. The alien is calledie Drachnow.

I was doing an impression of a specific guy who probably was ZIA. Maybe. So going back though, right, it's that this is one of these things. It's a problem of alienation that is if you try to solve with a big good in Georgia, the alien. If you try to solve a problem of alienation with a big good in database, it's not going to work for like nine different reasons.

That's one of them. But also it's worth it maybe at another point talking about the rest of the stuff in the online safety bill, which again, it comes back to yes, these companies need to be held to account and brought it to control, but to create your bill from largely a culture war standpoint is, it's an odd one. Well, this is the handy work of Nadine Doris before she was forced out. And as she notes in her own book, people kept telling her within the Tory party,

you got to like kick this shit into the long grass because it's not going to work. And she, she forced it through. So thank you, Nadine. I want to talk about prophetic AI and thanks to the one million people for sending this to us. Oh, all of our homass followers. Yes, that's right. Prophetic AI. And I'm just going to start with the first log line. Prometheus stole fire from the gods, so too will we steal dreams from the prophets?

One. You said before you're about to get electrocuted. Like, but, you know what, this is reminding me of, have you seen the screenshot that periodically does the rounds on Twitter where it's like people post it like, who, who, who T.F. my mom texting?

And it's like a guy, it's like a guy who's in the saved in the phone is just a Pharaoh. And she's like, Pharaoh, please, my temple is empty, it means you. And then he just replies black goddess. And that's like the end of the screenshot. Like that, temple is empty, it needs you. And then he just replies, black goddess. And that's like the end of the screenshot. That is the vibe of this coffee.

Indeed. The Prometheus store fire from the gods, we will steal dreams from the prophets. What do we think this does? I mean, this is already very alarming since it seems to have been founded by Sephiroth. I mean, I'm assuming dreams here isn't meant literally, right? It's got to be like aspiration kind of dreams, right?

Okay, so you're putting your marker down on dreams not being meant literally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that would be insane, obviously. Wrong dreams are meant literally. Oh, yeah, they're doing inception. They're going to fucking get into your head and steal your actual dreams. They're gonna, they've got seven fat cows and seven thing cows and they're gonna make them fight each other. What the fuck? What the fuck? Yeah, very biblical dreams. I have an idea, is it like a Netflix for dreams? Like you can choose what dreams are. You're so close. Oh, so the only thing on my Netflix selection is, that everyone is mad at me.

Again, fantastic. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They're going to steal the IP of your dreams and use it to make a Netflix show. Why do you dream in this particular scenario based on the idea that I had, which is no longer the thing, would have been an episode of Family Funny Guy. Yeah, you can make a Netflix, like with content harvested

directly from my dreams and it's, everyone is mad at Alice or it's Family Funny Guy. Also a Georgian knockoff. Where's both? You like one on each side. The way. The saying is Roger the Alien. Yeah.

No, so. So I just like the idea, I love the idea that you, you're, well, you thought of a dream, So I just like the idea, I love the idea that you, well you thought of a dream, you first went to seven fat cows and seven people. It was the nice famous dream of all time. It would be very funny. Name a more famous dream, I'll wait.

It would be very funny if you did the Dream Netflix thing and you just perfectly independently dreamed a Netflix original series. Like yeah, I had like a long sleep and I dreamed like 18, 99. So what happened? I guess I just, I just, I just, I just, I yeah, I had like a long sleep and I dreamed like 1899. So I guess I just came to me in a dream. I just don't know my Bible. Second, Alice, you're the closest to figuring out what this thing actually does. What?

Yeah. What? Allowing you to summon Netflix series is that don't exist. Okay. It's a device. It's an item. You can hold it in your hand. It's very season one. It's what this is. It's called the halo. Their device. It's a non-vasive neural stimulator to stabilize and induce lucid dreaming.

This is very like something you would get given in a later Assassin's Creed game. Yeah. Yeah. Does this, does this shit work? So I'm always hesitant to say no, it doesn't work because that seems quite obvious. I'm more interested in talking about, okay, what if it does? What does that mean? Well, then you do a sassence, Creed, and you learn how to do parkour. Ironically, that sounds like something that the founder would say to a team of investors. Look, I'm not so interested in saying, does it work? I'm more interested in saying, what if it did?

Well, I'll give you a little bit of learning parkour at the Paul Kagame parkour center. That's right. That's a new Netflix series. No, I'll give you a dream I had. I'll give you a dream. I'll give you a dream. Give me a Georgian guy there.

Peter Grimley, the big bro. I'm not sure. You've got to transfer your weight as you get over the obstacle. I am Georgian Matanko Kishmili. A peak behind the curtain is, it's very easy to look at a startup and say, well, that won't work. Wait, does you get over the obstacle? I am George and Matan Kokishmili. Ha ha ha. Peak behind the curtain is, it's very easy to look at a start up and say, well, that won't work. That gives you about 30 seconds of podcast.

That's true. So let's say, let's take the very real possibility that this is just hook them and say, okay, they may, let's put that over there. Fine. They say, I am Boris Johnson- Johnson as they and I will teach you to play with The combination of all for sound and machine learning this right now like You're going to be the champion of all the caucuses And no one will talk about MMA anymore you bring with what to the Kasbian basin But this is this is still fairly funny guy. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's why it's my dream. Oh, of course

Pina Are you learning are you learning with what from Georgian bars Johnson again? Oh, freaking sweet Learning with what from the Georgian version of Boris Johnson are you again? It's obviously a dream. Obviously ridiculous, I would never have been in real life. Our listeners are going to have some very strange dreams tonight. It's not. It's a dreaming as directed by your favorite podcast.

It's one of them. I my dream. I was learning with laugh from George and bars Johnson. We don't we don't have a clip for that. I guess we don't. You know, I really thought national gooning database was going to be the big hit. No, I could never have predicted George and which one. I. George and which one?

Just all of the characters. We want to do a lot. You want to run through a lot. Peter, you can't learn with that for four or five minutes. Your boss, Jones, he's not even Georgian. He doesn't make any sense. Yeah, he's Turkish. That's right. Alright, I call him defeffel. So, in this case, like Joe Swanson is like a sort of 2018 lib who's like, oh, Alexander defeffel. That's right.

Yeah, okay. It's the same voice as David Patti. He could be here as well. Yeah, we're both there. Yeah, and the other guy, it's the same voice. It's confusing and an audio medium. I used to go out with a lane on side-falt Okay, all right all right. Let's wrap George and Boris Johnson has grown too many legs and needs to be wrapped up

Yeah, yeah, yeah, also you might marriage end of that dream. He's the hundred legged monster that keeps the Titans in hell Makes you very good at with laugh It really does you'd want more you'd want a hundred hands really, but that guy's busy. Yeah, so the combination of ultrasound, remember we're talking about something Gooning Day? He's on every country's Gooning Day. He's the center of the panopticon jerking off in the guard tower.

No, if the guy with a hundred arms is jacking everyone off, that's the loophole, because you're like, well, I'm not jacking off. Like, is that guy happens to jack me off what? The national gooning database has one member that you have the one guy in Britain who runs everything and then you have the one guy in Britain who jacks Every one of take it up with the jacking off Yeah, remember that now there's an OG any listeners old enough to remember that one You're old enough to remember that you're old enough to goon in Britain nowadays. That's right.

So remember what we're talking about? We're talking about prophetic AI. A startup that hundreds of people, not hundreds. Many, many people have sent in like, oh boy, I can't wait for them to talk about this clearly insane startup that with a copy is written by Sephiroth. And we're like, anyway, here it is. Whoopsie Daisy, here's five minutes of Georgia Peter Griffin

because I couldn't remember the name of family guy 15 minutes earlier. Freaking sweet. Anyway, hope you didn't want to hear about this company because it's just all George and Boris Johnson Peter Griffin fever dream here in the studio. It's ridiculous. All right, all right. We'll blast back.

We'll blast him back. The combination of ultra-shout machine learning models. Hold us together, Riley. You can bet. You're gonna try and talk about a machine learning model? A loudest machine learning model that's, is this the machine learning model? It's a detect where dreamers are in REM and induce and stabilize lucid dreams.

Yeah. Yeah, when the dream is start singing, you know, that's me in the corner. That's me in this spotlight. So with it, we will pursue the answers to life's biggest questions. Okay. Which are? Can you work while you sleep?

No. I don't want to. Well, you can if you're a ping pong player. Like because you're getting trained in your dream by Georgian forest. Yeah, you're going to learn that you're going to practice the hardest at all. Uh, George, uh, Georgian boys. George, George is for us.

Oh, just, George is for us. George, just for us. Are you, are you feeling all right? I'm having a stroke. holding at the fast I smell toes I am beautiful George and Boris Johnson. I am I am ripped and oiled all women desire me. I have 4,000 children All of them work in the vineyards

so in the vineyards. So, then heck dumplings for me. I've become very strong. Recon sweet, Milo. Recon sweet. Here are. What's the study say? It uses focused ultrasound signals to activate the dreaming state, which Eric Wahlberg claims could allow workers the chance to practice presentations or do creative products on an...

Eric Wahlberg? Well, Mark Wahlberg's a L L B E R G. Yeah, I'm afraid not the change to the balance island, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Austin Ellis Island could allow workers the chance to practice demos or perform creative problem solving for difficult tasks. In Lucid dreams, you're freed from the conventional laws of physics, gravity, conservation of energy, Lucid dreams, you're freed from the conventional laws of physics, gravity, conservation of energy. I hate this lucid dreaming shit for exactly this reason where it's like, listen, it's the

one time in my sort of, my life when no one can bother me is when I'm asleep. I don't have any responsibilities and now you want to like add that to my time management bullshit. It's so insulting. I say, a CEO could practice for an upcoming board meeting an athlete But who's at your board reading Georgian Peter Griffin? Like that would be so weird But also Is ready confusing also

In Oh, just to end up in some kind of like living hell where he has he or she has no idea if they're dreaming or not Because all of their dreams are just practicing for real life where he has, he or she has no idea if they're dreaming or not because all of their dreams are just practicing for real life when it's all real. Yeah, yeah, basically, it's a hell where you don't know what's real and if you're sleeping on it. I wanna do this.

I wanna like go and dream my own shit where like everyone is mad at me. Like just leave me alone. Let me be uncomfortable and nervous, you know. I seen healthy, hell for Italians. It's an Irish bar where everyone's a Georgian guy trying to teach you to play ping pong. So, Wolberg founded prophetic in March alongside CTO, Wesley Lewis-Berry III, who was previously creating augmented reality art with Grimes. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Okay, nice. The two meds were a huge, a mutual friend. Walberg having formerly worked at NoB, an education tech setup, and Praxis City. The paradigm fund had started looking to build a future vis-to-contentional community in the Mediterranean. Take me down to the Praxis City. Wow. They say, if you look at the history of prophets, whether it's Abraham, Muhammad,

or Buddha, they receive their prophetic wisdom from dreams. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them.

It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. It's just not all of them. my lucid dream. The goal here is to make everyone a profit and to give people access to prophetic wisdom, knowledge and interface. You know, I, I'm having, I, I, I, I have some, I have some

questions about what they think a profit is. I, I'm not, I've, I've been on my own religious journey lately, and I'm not sure where that's, where that's taking me exactly, but this is the most her arm. Anything has ever been like The carpet was less her arm and this is you better not be receiving the light of Islam from George and Boris Johnson in there It doesn't even make sense. They're all the dogs. Why do I sound like Boston? Sign you need to you to work on your lowest. This is the danger. You've gotta keep it very nasal. Hey, dad.

It's only supposed to sew George and Brandy. Yeah. Warburg was inspired to say, and to answer your question, what they think of profit is, is the CEO of a religion. Oh, yeah. Do they actually say that?

Because that is believable. That's the heavy implication. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like profits went and got their ideas from religions and for religions and dreams. So you too can go get your ideas for the quarterly board meeting also in a dream.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time. Muhammad went on a wingtource and gave a, gave a slideshow presentation. And that's how Islam was formed. Well, really, I mean, like the apostles were Jesus' co-founders, and they helped him disrupt the world of religion and the Roman Empire. The only reason I'm- I'm not-

It's TEDx Medina very poorly received. I should- The only reason I think this is possibly real is that if you look at Masayoshi's son, Slide Decks, he's clearly been dreaming them for years. Yeah, that is true. It says, Wilbur Accenture and Barnes Johnson is talking about this.

Actually, he's talking a lot. Planning for prophetic began in 2018 and came after years of study, he's inspired by the Axial Age period, which was characterized by broad changes in religious, philosophical, and metaphysical thought that occurred in various locations between the eighth and third century BCE.

All of these motherfuckers think they're Arcanarsan. Fuck off. Jesus Christ genuinely is the texting the Pharaohs shit. Yeah. I think of myself as kind of a Homeric bod. That's a little invalid. So the whole idea with getting reservations, so you can't buy one, but you can pay them $100 and an escrow fund to quote unquote reserve one is essentially creating order books so that we can then partner

with the tier one manufacturer like Foxconn. Can you can you can you describe what is the device? Foxconn want like the bad guys from fucking Metal Gear Solid. I remember that going very differently, but like is it like is it a helmet? Is it like a sleep mask? It's a headband. Oh, so, so, so, so you're gonna look like the fucking, like, the righteous tenon bounce, righteous? That's right. My brain is melting out of my fucking ears, dude.

Are we sure, right, that it's not on the right timeline? For me to have been eating beef in the 90s and now it's not on the right timeline for me to have been eating beef in the 90s and now it's starting to fuck me up. We're the rat just 10. That's crazy. I don't know what's wrong with me. You're the evangelical 10. You look like you're in cryoprasin from like demolition man basically.

You got the headband for being there. The thing is, I feel that way, to be honest, you know. They say, but so that's the idea, right? It's a royal town in Bound. Yeah. So you were thinking of the righteous gemstones maybe? Yeah, I literally was. And I got the two, I tripped over myself and now.

Now they're basically the same thing. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, with a Royal Denim Bells. You fuck, the Royal being filmed in perfect symmetry by Wes Anderson. Who is there? I hope he's not filmed any of that stuff we didn't Paris. Fucking hell. Anyway. So, I also love the idea that like, they're trying to make the thing that gives you the power of a prophet of God at the suicide factory. Like, oh, we want to work with Fox. And you look like Richie Tannembaugh. So, perfect. I do.

Suicide factory sounds like an E&M banks. Yeah. So, let's say academics, let's say, caution against continuous lucid dreaming, say it can disrupt sleep patterns and impact mental health. But what if your mental health doesn't matter when you've got the wealth at the boardroom of success? Yeah, well that's true. You can convert so many people to

waiters if you can lose a dream. That's all right. You could dream that all your haters are your waiters at the table of success. Yeah. Because it could be quite mentally, has it to you. Yeah, because next time you see one of your haters, you could be like, hey, can I get some water over here? Because you've forgotten that you're dreaming, or are you? Hmm. Are you dreaming? Is Boris Johnson Georgian in your dream?

Do you even know Boris Johnson? Why is Peter Griffin there? You need to sort of check some. You need like the spinning top from inception. And I think potentially that is the Georgianness or not of Boris Johnson. So just to establish this as the... Does he have like a black moustache to

establish this is the waking timeline like the correct one is a baseline for everyone out there. Boris Johnson is not Georgian. Yeah, you see Boris Johnson and then you look down at that that Soviet fucking ethnicity diagram. And you can't quite tell and then you look all the way down at the board table and you see that it's a ping pong table. You look up who's there, Peter Griffin. You are Matt Hancock. You're in a wonder, but Rwanda is now known for ping pong and nothing else. You're on sort of like Earth 223 where Boris Johnson is Armenian.

Also, also, before we use one thing, I hate more than I love ping pong and that is the Turk. There's one thing I want to end this episode on though, which is that I was unable to find this is a reference to our previous bonus episode. So do go listen to that. Yeah, you want to know if you want to know why we're good. Why I'm about to say what I'm about to say, which is that our listeners have located the battle bomb of blues by George Jarksey. Oh my God. Oh, yeah.

This seems like a constant musical accompaniment to me going to my GP to do the cognitive decline test that Trump had done. Hmm. So, um, to George and Boris Johnson teaching you out of drawer clock. Yeah, so, if you want to check out

on why we are playing this 2011 era anti-Obama song from a teacot, you're gonna have to check out the most recent bonus episode. So without any further ado, thank you very much for listening. Milo, you're gonna be in the Netherlands or whatever. Hello, I'm a sety and set up Palin,

and I'm in the town. whatever. Hello, I'm a city in Sarapalien. And I mean, that's my way. Will be on tour in Amsterdam and Rotterdam on the 27th and 26th of January, respectively. Also, other tour dates to be announced Australia and so on. Right. And so that's the man in audible. Yes. Thank you. Otherwise, we will see you on the bonus episode in a few short days. We fucking will. This is George Jarksey with the Bad O'Bomma Blues. Now listen to me, Pee Leaple.

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