TRASHFUTURE - Only the Lib Dems Can Win in Workington

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

So, it’s finally happening: we’re having another General Election. On December 12, the UK will vote yet again, and we have an opportunity to elect a socialist Labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn. However, as the full TF crew of Riley (@raaleh), Hussein (@HKesvani), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice @AliceAvizandum discuss on this episode, we have to counter wave upon wave of disingenuous nonsense from dumb British media and useless centrist parties like the Lib Dems. *Register to vote* You can do this here — it’s fast! https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote *Do some canvassing* Momentum (@peoplesmomentum) has a great resource that lets you sign up to canvassing events in marginal seats close to you. Access it here: https://www.mycampaignmap.com We have a Patreon and signing up at the $5 tier will give you an extra episode each week. You’ll also gain access to our incredibly powerful Discord server. Sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture If you want to buy one of our recent special-edition phone-cops shirt, shoot us an email at trashfuturepodcast[at]gmail[dot]com and we can post it to you. (£20 for non-patrons, £15 for patrons) Do you want a mug to hold your soup? Perhaps you want one with the Trashfuture logo, which is available here: https://teespring.com/what-if-phone-cops#pid=659&cid=102968&sid=front

Of course, in Australia, the news stinger is just a kind of special spider that attacks you with the headlines. Okay, well, let's put the news stinger in here and leave that first comment in. Super rich, prepare to leave UK within minutes if Labour wins election. Which they can do because they can buy passports anywhere they want to fucking go in the world. Lots of high net worth individuals are worried about having to pay much higher taxes on their wealth, says Jeffrey Todd, partner at the law firm Boodle Hatfield. Jeffrey Todd, no relation.

Definitely sounds like a real person at a real place. Yeah, Boodle Hatfield. Yeah, that's what it's called. His brother is Joshua Todd, the lead singer of Buck Cherry, but he went in the straight and narrow route and became an accountant in Britain instead. I love to work for law firm Labradoodle McCoy. Transfers of wealth are already arranged. In many cases, all that's missing is a signature on the contract if he comes into power.

What? The super rich won't pay taxes in Britain anymore. How will our public sector cope? Oh, no. Also, the fact that they've apparently got these papers already ready and all they need is a signature is kind of like an indicator. To be fair, my account at Stetson Wymer Honour says, actually this tax rise won't be that significant. Yeah, but we have to listen to the five people that can hold our economy hostage.

Absolutely. I'm very excited for the inevitable action movie of the unsigned contractors, the one super rich guy is struggling to get to his accountant's office, but John McDonnell has to stop him. And it's like wearing a vest hooked up with loads of grenades and like hunting him down like Schwarzenegger before he gets to the contract. Second, a second news stinger. Don't worry if you were considered worried that there might be a Labour government,

because Dominic Cummings is on the case. He says that he has a poll doing the rounds at Tory HQ that he can't show you, and he won't tell you anything more about, but it's got a conservative majority of 40 to 70, so the Labour Party should just save its money and give up now, because it's going to lose its deposit in every single seat. The poll goes to a different school. He met the poll on holiday. At this time of year, in this part of the country,

localised entirely within your polling system. It does exist, but it's in the form of a 10,000 word blog that you can only access via his OnlyFans. Oh nice. You can get Dominic Cummings' bathwater as a free gift to win the poll. Yeah, it's him reading Thucydides, but with like one ball out. And that's where he found those numbers. But this is just a small taste of the kind of horseshit

that we in Britain are going to be dealing with for the next six weeks. We won't be able to cover it all here at TrashFuture, so when you see one of these articles, you are now permitted to play the TF home game, where you imagine what we might say, then you turn and say that to the nearest person beside you. We are not liable for what you say during the TF home game. I hate when I say something during the TF home game,

and Nate has to cast it. Welcome back to TrashFuture, the election kickoff cast. It's Riley Hussain, Milo, Nate and Alice, the full compliment of the Trash folks. Say hi everybody. Hi everybody. Hello. Alice did the old trick. Yeah, I got him. Hi everybody, I'm dad. Yeah, you got me. This is the thing about being trans,

is you can still do dad jokes when you're a woman. That's the one thing that they keep it, because it's located on the Y chromosome actually. It's not a gender thing. That's a large gamete joke. You're like, you're non-domiciled for gender. So as many of our listeners know, there's been a little bit of an election called in the UK,

and it is our chance to, I don't know, save countless lives by ending austerity. It's our chance to fix the Brexit debacle, and it's also our chance to relentlessly embarrass and gloat to every single columnist for like at least a few months. So it's very important we win this thing. It's also our chance to hashtag stop Brexit, if you're interested in that.

Like, I know that's a secondary concern, but... So this episode is going to be all about trying to mentally prepare you for the next six weeks of rat fuckery that you're going to have to endure. It's motivation cast folks. Yeah, from the popular media and liberal politicians and all of the people who are going to try to tell you that what you want out of the society that you live in is unreasonable,

and you should go back to just compromising endlessly with them. Yeah, and you're a king. You deserve better rise and grind, and, you know, get that bread. Yes. So we're all, but our best way to get this bread is to get Corbin into office. And in order to do that, we're also, we're going to have to think very critically about tactical voting. Tactical voting.

That's when you vote with like a giant vest on. This is cool website, and it keeps telling me to vote, live damn. So, well, it's amazing how the tactical vote is so often a vote for the Lib Dems. Yeah, it's a, I think if you called it tactical, you could get Mark Francois to vote for the Lib Dems. An MS-13 style electoral strategy. He like marks the cross on his ballot paper using a paintball gun. You can technically interdict the ballot paper.

So there's a lot, there's going to be a lot of tactical voting in tea leaf reading from a lot of columnists. Again, it's usually the columnists who are going to think that every tiny little event is going to change the election fundamentally. They're saying the Brexit party, if they run, they're going to steal votes from the Tories. Maybe, but also labor. The Lib Dems are going to steal votes from labor.

Maybe you'd also the Tories. What are the S&P going to do? What's Plaid Cumber going to do? Sinn Féin's not standing in certain constituencies in Northern Ireland. All of this stuff really matters. No, it doesn't. The point is, is that outside of a few particular constituencies, tactical voting isn't really a thing.

And the point of left politics is that you do get what you want. You don't need the prognosticating. You don't need the AI or big data. You just need to get your interests represented. Also, I'll just point out that the reason why this is so special beyond the fact that it lets us elect a Corbyn government and start the process of actually living in, like building a world outside of neoliberalism,

is that this is the only time when the British pundit class effort comes into contact with reality. It's a rare event and it happens once every couple of years, if you're lucky or unlucky, however you look at it. But there will actually be a result that is determined as opposed to the last two and a half years which has just been nonstop. Why did Jeremy Corbyn put shit in my pants?

And I mean, think about this. The last time that happened was the results of the leadership challenge when Steve and Kinnock was photographed just kind of staring glumly at the results. Imagine how much sweeter this could be. Well, the thing is, Jeremy Corbyn must not fall in the sea. If at any point you see Jeremy Corbyn, please prevent him from going anywhere near the sea,

he must not fall in the sea. Will Campayne and Hastings, don't worry. If you see like a speed boat heading his way. Keep him away from Mexican supermarket entrepreneurs. So here's the, I'll start with the Lib Dem tactical voting debacle. Their basic complaint is, labor is a fundamentally Brexit party, boohoo.

Their policy is too hard for my little columnist brain to understand and yet every labor voter must immediately compromise with us in order to stop Brexit. Number one, the policy is not complicated. Don't let anybody tell you that it is complicated. It is to renegotiate a credible leave option, then put it to the people in a referendum. You can say it in a sentence with two clauses.

Anyone saying it's complicated is being performatively stupid or is too stupid to have a column. But this is the thing, Brexit is the only thing the Lib Dems have. And they can't face, you can't come back from the idea that if you want to hashtag stop Brexit, your best chance of doing that is to vote labor and return a Corbyn government.

You have to have a sort of extremist, irredentist wing of the EU, it's wonderful. No, they have a plastic bag tax. I guess their thought is that they've overestimated how many people they can radicalize with the whole staying the revoke, everything. Has both Dems. Someone put this, and I can't remember who,

but they were like, the Brexit party and the Lib Dems are basically the opposite sides of the same coin in the sense that they offer the most extreme elements of either like, but it ignores reality in all situations. And both getting very excited in one way or another about an institution as dismal as the EU. Except I think with the Brexit party are inherently nihilistic, which I can kind of respect, but the Lib Dems on the other hand,

like the Swinson's thing is still very much like, oh, we've got both ex-labor and ex-Turi people, and we're all united by this like one thing, which is like, stop Brexit. And like, their big thing at the moment isn't even about campaigning. It's like, get Joe Swinson on TV. Jesus Christ.

And where Joe Benson will definitely sound extremely normal, because she's very good at talking and should do more. Look, this whole thing won't backfire, asshole. Yeah, Lib Dem cult of personality things have always worked out. And that's why I agree with Nick, turned into Nick Clegg forming a government and doing very well.

And everyone remembers him fondly. Also, this is what I will say about the whole Lib Dem-Brexit position, because I was talking to some people at a party the other night who were kind of like left-ish, but aren't very engaged in politics, and I was having to explain to them why the Lib Dem whole rhetoric was completely insane. And what it boils down to is that the position of just revoke Article 50 is a position you can only have if you know

that you're not going to win an election. Because if you win an election like a majority, let's say the Lib Dems miraculously get 326 seats, and then they're just like, okay, we're not doing Brexit anymore. Like, what do they think is going to happen? Do they think that like all the other, like everyone else in Parliament is just going to be like, all the fucking Brexit MPs, all the people who voted Brexit,

do they think that's going to wash? Yeah, well, it was a game of two halves. You know, they got us in the end and that's fine. It was a spare. This isn't like for her to... Well, I just want to say the same as I think it's because the really, really stupid like continuity remain line that you constantly get is that Jeremy Corbyn whipped in favor of Article 50,

if invoking of the vote on Article 50, and when, you know, after the Supreme Court determined that the Brexit result, the referendum had to have a vote in the House of Commons, he whipped in favor of invoking Article 50 to start the timeline for Brexit. But the whole point here is that, yes, you could nominally exist in a world in which Jeremy Corbyn decides we're not going to do that because he's just Mr... Because he's the weird, remain...

He's E.U. Supergirl. He's E.U. Supergirl. He's stand in for this fantasy version of Cure Starmer that you think would be a better labor leader. And then they would have been destroyed in a fucking election. And then you wouldn't have Labor MPs who could vote against this stuff. The fact that he basically played the game of saying, we're not going to stymie the Cori's Brexit,

we just have to make sure that whatever deal gets negotiated is when we agree with, that at least gives plausible deniability in the sense that like, maybe you don't like it because it's too damn political, but these people always, they want to have like, why can't Jeremy Corbyn do the thing that I want so that the Labor Party can be wiped out, and then you haven't thought past Step 3? This is because these are all people who,

just like the Boomer Brexit Party people all fantasize about World War II, they fantasize about heroically and honorably losing to the Republicans in a fictitious ninth season of the West Wing. That's what they want. However, I also want to add that it's in, that the Lib Dems have been doing a lot of funny polling that indicates that if you really want to stop Brexit- That's what Maypole dancing used to be called.

Because Labor is a Brexit party and, oh, look at the Europe results of the European elections, etc., etc. They also are releasing polls, like, for example, in Somerset. That already pissed off the Brexiteers. Jacob Rees-Mogg's constituency, predicting that the Lib Dems would be on, on like 38% behind the Tories at 42 with labor trailing on eight. But where the question asked was,

imagine that the results in your constituency was expected to be very close between the conservative and Lib Dem candidates, and none of the other parties were competitive. In this scenario, which party would you vote for? So this is basically, if I were hotter, would you go out with me? In their fantasy, they don't even win. That's just so good. It's so good.

In a poll that they rigged comprehensively, they still can't win. Imagine if Vladimir Putin failed to rig the election. Imagine if he rigged the election, but it just like, imagine if, like, Litvinenko had survived the fucking polonium. Like, that kind of like, well, we tried, you know, we're doing our best. Like, if you're really concerned about increasing freedom in the country, like all you have to do is send out like Lib Dem candidates to go run in rigged elections throughout the entire world.

Mr. Putin, I realize this is not a result you wanted, but all my losses is lessons. And this is not an isolated situation. This is not an isolated situation. There is Lib Dem funny polling going on up and down the country, where they'll basically ask a certain kind of massaged question. Like, for example, you know, imagine if Jeremy Corbyn was trebucheted into the sun and the Labour Party quit all mass, et cetera, et cetera.

Like, what would you do? Imagine it's a Tuesday and you're feeling really good about yourself. You just watch songs of praise. Imagine if all the Labour policies were the Lib Dem policies. Who would you vote for? Yeah. And they're doing this just, I think, to try and hold on to some relevance. So, but they're not just doing it themselves.

They're also doing it through lots of allegedly politically neutral polling front-corp organizations, like Best for Britain, whose tactical voting tool, getvoting.com, Barone Polling. Of course, they have a fucking app. Yeah. So, it suggested that voters should back the Lib Dems in Kensington, which is a Labour-held marginal by 20 votes. Against not the Lib Dems.

No. And the Lib Dems received, like, I don't know, received, like, a quarter the votes of either other party. It was, like, 4,000 or something? Yeah. And this kind of analysis, which takes into account, say, the European elections, which, like, 10 people voted in, and takes into account local elections,

and then takes into account other polling that is commissioned by the Lib Dems, tends to- Moon phases, augury. Yeah. Yeah. Has said... Well, Joe Swinson is a Libra, so... What were you predicting for this election?

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there was, like, a voting tool, which was based on, like, you know, like, the Mercury's in retrograde. So, this is how you should vote. It's based on the Kelly Ocureke election predictions. That one was just for Alice. Indeed. So, Nymey Smith, the chairperson of Best for Britain,

said, admitted that while the tool did choose the Lib Dems in 180 seats, it still chose Labour in, like, about 300. Okay, so, Don Cummings is like, okay, we're going to win 70 seats. The Lib Dems, on the one hand, are more optimistic by going all the way up to 180. But they're still like, oh, we can't necessarily win that, but we will just tell you to tactically vote there.

I can't wait to, like, two weeks before the election in the new tactical Lib Dem voting app. Every time you click on your constituency in postcode, it just brings up the jeb map, which is the entire country's Lib Dem. It's just Joe with an exclamation mark. They predict Idaho to go Lib Dem. The only way I could really see that happening

is if Lib Dems just do what Stalin did and then force a bunch of, like, middle-class, or middle-class urban people from Richmond to, like, go live in Bolton for a while. So, there always is a Lib Dem minority everywhere. But the Lib Dem year's zero. Following the election tour bus around. It's like the same people, but in different coats,

voting in every constituency. But here's the thing. They say that they're doing this because they have a magic-advanced polling stats formula that they can't tell you about. And Dominic Cummings is the guy who made the data. It's basically the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if he was somehow

pulling the strings behind Lib Dem's campaigning. It's just one of those little folded paper things that you, like, unfold a bunch of times, and it tells you, like, who you have a crush on, but it's that for winning a majority. And Mr. Cummings gave us this secret polling technique. He's a committed Lib Dem supporter, and he says it's going to make our election campaign.

Yeah. If he walked in with a fake mustache and then said, hello, I'm Cummings, and I hate Britain, so I want to help the Lib Dems. They'd be, like, great, perfect, you're on board. It's always hard to identify Dominic Cummings because he's just buried within layers of quilted jackets. So what they've said is, to achieve accurate up-to-the-minute recommendations,

we have used a technique popular among pollsters called multi-level regression and post-tradification. This method was deployed to accurately predict the election of Donald Trump, the 2017 hung parliament, and surprise wins for Labour in Kensington and Canterbury that year. However... Did it predict all of them this week? Yeah. This thing is like, okay, number one,

anyone with a modicum of statistical knowledge will tell you that what they have said here, what Smith has said, is essentially the, like, polling equivalent of magic beans. She said that she has some magic formula that has been uniquely better at predicting things than just a basic regression. But any statistical model is only as good

as the assumptions in it. And if your assumptions are that are, for example, like the European election turnout is going to be somehow similar to 2019 turnout, then you can throw the model out, no matter how advanced your calculations are. She's Bill Metchor. Yeah, she is... Oh, no, she's Nate Silver.

She's the reverse of Bill Metchor. No, because Nate Silver didn't predict Trump, but Bill Metchor did. Yeah, because... Oh, yeah, that's true. Well, let's also remember... Here's the thing with Nate Silver that I didn't realize until relatively recently. You know, Nate Silver's claim to fame was that

he ran his blog and they successfully called all of the states for Obama and that he wound up winning in 08. What I didn't realize is that apparently the Obama campaign knew about his blog and liked him as somebody that was, you know, sort of promulgating information and they shared their private polling with him.

So, on one hand, there's the... The math man has solved math things and goes around in his math wizard hat, but on the other hand, it's like, yes, if you have extremely good data that other people don't have access to, chances are good that if that data is very... You know, is...

What's the right word here? Is trustworthy? Is useful? Yeah, it's robust. It's robust, it's accurate, that you can then make a prediction that other people might not be able to make because they don't have access to that data. But in this case, if your data

is based on the European elections or it's based on how things are polling right now, you really have no idea and you're not going to know until much later as we get further into the campaign. So, the idea that people should make up their minds now, you should get your postal ballot and cast it for the Lib Dems tomorrow,

even if you live in fucking Ulster, like, it doesn't make any sense. Damn, the electoral Gladwell. I'm really excited for the take this. Like, well, whoever wins in this election, the real winner will be traffic-like manufacturers. Oh, he's... He's becoming considerably weirder than that.

Right now, he's just on a sort of voodoo electability thing. It's wild. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, look, what all those conversations about electability and fancy predictive models that are telling you something totally counterintuitive, like that three standard deviations between the two elections is normal or whatever,

all that's doing is the standard liberal thing of trying to substitute process for actual politics. It's we've got a chart and the chart might not correspond to reality, but trust the chart and not reality. The chart is telling you that all those things you think you want, you don't want them. You actually want them.

Look at the chart. The Lib Dem Soviet five-year plan. But this is why the tactical voting story is always the same. It's that the left needs to compromise towards the center if you want to stop the right. Stop being so political, start being so technical. Ups, I scratched technical. Shit, it's just political under there anyway.

I mean, look, here's the thing, right? If you live in a Lib Dem Tory marginal, I understand the argument that if Brexit is the only issue that matters to you, which I mean, good on you, because you're probably fucking rich if that's the case, then vote for the Lib Dems instead of the Tories. But the Lib Dems have already said

they're not going to cooperate with labor. So the idea that this is replicable across the entire country is demonstrably false because of the things the Lib Dems have said to effectively discourage people from giving them a chance. And it's weird to me because a party that's demanding a second chance after fucking it completely on their first chance.

But there's a lot of people putting in a lot of effort to try to obscure, to like muddy the waters here. Like our whole news roundup thing at the beginning was a Corbyn government is terrifying, but also it's not going to happen. Voting Lib Dem is something you absolutely have to do and it might work unless it doesn't work. Like all of this is just to add to the confusion.

If you want a labor government vote labor, it really is that simple. And if the Lib Dems want us to vote tactically and vote Lib Dem, compromise with us. Bend the knee. Oh, never heard that one. So I also want to talk quickly about the best for Britain Lib Dem access of centrism

because who's behind best for Britain? Well, I'm sure it's no one sinister. So Niamhe Smith, who I mentioned up earlier, did use to technically be a Lib Dem PPC for the cities of London and Westminster. If you want to get technical, they forgot. I can't believe they forgot to put it in the best for Britain's R team bio of her, which is weird, right?

She must just be very bashful. Yeah, exactly. She doesn't want to be a top poppy. She just want to intimidate people with her breadth of experience. She was also a Girl Scout leader, but do you see her talking about that? No. If you mention your politics,

she might not get the seed money from Softbank. No, not Softbank, but we'll continue with that. Add, but turgid bank. Immediately before joining best for Britain, Niamhe was executive director of campaigns, the business lobby group London First, which is... That's a great choice of name. You could just not name your thing after Britain First, right?

Where she organized the group's campaign in the capital to stay in the EU at the 2016 EU referendum, and London voted overwhelmingly to remain. Wait, she's taking credit for that. I know, I was entirely due to her campaign there. Yeah, that was in the balance, really. She also co-host the very popular Remaniacs podcast. The podcast where they're maniacal about Remain.

Let's get some MLG air horns in for the Remaniacs, please. It's just like... Britain is just like the most boring possible universe of the Epstein conspiracy, where it's all connected in such a mad way, where they are all working with each other, and it's quite easy to cover, but the connections are also banal. It's like if Dan Brown, instead of writing his books

about fucking the Catholic Church or whatever, was just writing them about local government bureaucracy. This is why as a country we've produced Freemasonry, which absolutely is the idea of a shadow government conspiracy run by the most boring used car dealers and police inspectors in the world. Also, don't forget, we have one in Bristol, and they spend most of their time worshiping a dead guy's fingernails. Merchant Venturers, look him up.

Then there's the chair of the organization, one Mark Malik Brown, or Baron Malik Brown, who's a sort of center-right luminary lately of the UN, World Bank, and so on and so on, in his earlier career, co-owned a comms shop called Sawyer Miller Group, and was just sort of a free market liberal PR gun for hire. But the thing is, he's a woke, never-trump diplomat billionaire. Here are some of his comments from Davos in 2018.

Trump, the disruptor, might have been welcomed, because there has been no solution in the Middle Eastern North Korea for years. But Trump, the guy, just has no policy depth. The recklessness, the temper on him, and unpredictability. So he's making the world a more dangerous place. Oh, he's gauche. He's a woke, never-trump billionaire. All I can think of, and this is really dumb,

and this is just a callback to a thing that we don't need to drill with, wouldn't it be awesome if you had a band called HardBank? So, what did his comms shop thing do, by the way? Because that sounds like it's not weird at all. No, no, I mean, they helped Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, the guy who implemented brutal shock therapy austerity in Bolivia, and who Bolivia is currently trying to extradite back to the U.S. for crimes against humanity.

That's just one of several. So don't worry, he's like Norms. One of them is also Mario Vargas-Yoses, and it's the Nobel Prize-winning author who would be the most storied man in Peru, except apparently he's really into tax evasion. He's like the South American neoliberal, it's great. Well, I find most fascinating about this guy, though, is that he looks at Donald Trump, and he's like,

no policy depths, that's your problem there. Like, you look at Donald Trump, the big, fat, fancy boy president, who can't finish a sentence without eating a fucking pack of ketchup, and you're like, yeah, the main issue here is, he hasn't really thought through the issues. Like, if he thought about the issues, his brain would dissolve. Like, he can't get through a single letter to a foreign diplomat without putting in something about a handjob he received in a swimming pool in 1986.

Like, how do you look at that man? You're like, oh, yeah, no policy depths. Like, what? Like, read one of his tweets, just one, pick any one. And I defy you to tell me what it means. A horrifying idea of wonk Donald Trump. People, people, these charts, these charts is regression. It's just dramatically, people, people, my baseline model shows

that the base case here is a lot better than you think it's going to be. Folks, folks, this is worst case theory. These people in the Labour Party, very bad data, very nasty data. You just put Donald Trump and Nate Silver in the machine from the fly. Wouldn't look that different. So, we've also saved the liberal best for last, of course. This is from an article in the FT. Tony Blair says, save Britain by supporting moderate MPs.

Tactical voting may be necessary to return politicians who don't spout populism. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man? We are witnessing. Okay, boomer. We are witnessing, he says, the infantilization of British politics. The December 12th general election has been called to resolve Brexit, but if that's the question, it should be asked in a second referendum. The only way to get that is to fucking vote Labour.

Fucking Labour government! Why is this so hard? Like, he literally in this stupid article comes out and says that Labour opposes a second referendum when literally their policy is a second referendum, just with a deal they negotiate. Why is this so fucking cosmogony? Well, because the referendum should be between remain and remain. Exactly.

Remain and remain too. Remain harder. Or what they genuinely think is that they want to run the referendum that happened in 2016 again. They believe that, like, they won the argument about, like, well, actually, loads of people want to stay in the EU because EU Supergirl just, like, rocks and her tracks and dope as fuck. Yeah, we haven't included the impact of EU Supergirl in our Lib Dem polling. Or the disco album.

There was a Gary Young article in The Guardian not that long ago that I thought was really good in this regard that he pointed out that the problem that you're dealing with, with the Tony Blair's and such, is that it's not just Brexit. It's also 2017 and 2015 in the sense that, and 2016's Leadership Challenge, in the sense that their ultimate inability to grasp reality stems from the fact that they refuse to acknowledge Jeremy Corbyn is legitimate. He can't be legitimate. He can't legitimately be the leader leader.

He can't be what people actually want. They must have been hypnotized by populism because to acknowledge that he represents the actual will of Labour voters means that they're, like, you should, actually your life can't get better. It just has to suck. That's no longer palatable. And so they're just going to keep going. All of the stop Brexit Jeremy kind of shit, it just plays to this same delusion that they

can't acknowledge that this might actually be the way that Labour is going to go from here on out. Because if that's the case, then the daily show rallies to restore Sandy or whatever, but in real life that they've been fucking living in since 2015 is not going to succeed. They would have to admit that they were wrong. What if the election that they lost that we know is driving them psychotic isn't the EU referendum, but the Owen Smith leadership challenge? And that was like the real breaking point for a certain kind of like But also remember that they tried to disenfranchise all the Labour members who had joined

because of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership campaign because to them the only valid way to win, the only valid way is if people who want the thing they don't want aren't allowed to vote. They wanted super delegates so badly. Well, this is the thing is that the hogs don't know what they want. The hogs, they think they want Jeremy Corbyn and like to transform normative politics or whatever, but that's not what they want. All they want is Jack Straw again. They don't know they want ID cards, but they fucking want ID cards.

We want a man who shakes hands with Margaret MacGarby because it's dark. That's what we want. I mean, the thing with Blair specifically too is did you see this story that got briefed a while back about how I think it might have been milled, but certainly some like Labour staffer impishly suggested to the times that a Corbyn government might start declassifying things. I think that might be like a personal conflict of interest for Tony Blair in terms of not wanting to end up in a fucking haig. Well, he's back to the Epstein stuff again. Back to the Epstein stuff or just a piece of paper somewhere in the archives

that reads like much like the stop Brexit button. He literally did just do an illegally evade Iraq button. Guys, you need to stop doing this. We're running out of red string. So he says the spine of British politics has always been a solid centre. The spine. That's not how a spine works. Yeah, it's a terrible metaphor. It is fractured. Core of spine. It has fractured in repairing and healing. It will take time.

What fractured it, Tony? If a spine fractures, you're kind of a paraplegic, right? But the other question is what fractured it? Because it's not like a bunch of brilliantly charismatic leaders just appeared in sort of 2015 and 16 and convinced the public to abandon common sense and throw themselves into the street with like wild ferocity. Like Jeremy Corbyn is a lovely allotment tending old man from North London. He's not like a populist demagogue who's whipping the people up into a frenzy. The spine of British politics fractured because it sucked.

Also, let's bear in mind that these things that represent sea changes in British politics were just parties wielding power. Like it wasn't... You're not supposed to do. You're supposed to sort this out with a negotiated handover of power in a restaurant in Islington called Grenita and that's it. I mean, think about both 1945 and 1979. I mean, 1945 was a shock of victory and they parlayed that into creating the National Health Service, among other things. 1979 was not predicted to be a win for the conservatives. What wound up happening was in 1978, the Labour Party decided to delay what it proposed to be

an autumn election and then there was a huge fucking winter of industrial action and then they wound up losing to Thatcher, not by a great margin. And Thatcher was like, oh, I have power now. I'm going to fuck everything because I can. Like it legitimately is wielding power. And the thing about Blair is that they can't conceive of having a Labour Party that actually delivers what Labour voters want because they've decided that the only policy they can comprehend is actually you can't have the things that you want and you need to accept that, but the conservatives can have whatever they want because the natural order of things is

conservatives and we just got to hope that the whole monitor gives us our turn. Oh, actually, no. Tony Blair does believe in using power, just not here. Well, I mean, he believes in using it on Middle Eastern countries. Yes. So he goes on. Labour, having failed to back another referendum initially, claims to be fighting this election to have one afterwards, claiming it can negotiate a better deal with the EU, which it will then put to the people. Because the only way to do that is with the Labour government. They can. They can.

And then it's literally even Theresa May negotiating a better deal with the EU than fucking Boris Johnson did. It's not fucking difficult. You just have to not be insane. Like, literally, like, oh, my God, the fucking Tories with the whole thing about like, oh, it's so hard getting the EU to agree to anything. Yeah, because everything you want is fucking mental. Like, they're just like, well, why if we made Northern Ireland imaginary? Why if Northern Ireland was more of a vibe, actually? Why? Like, I don't know. I don't know the Tories. What if you just went in there with a negotiating position that was like, even what the leave campaign campaign done, like stay in the single market,

and then all of these problems would literally disappear. Yeah, but Tony Blair says, Tony Blair says the Jeremy Corbyn's being mean. Yeah, I've heard that. They're just diagnosing Milo with Romania. Specifically, he says, Mr Corbyn's campaign launch speech attacking, quote, dodgy landlords, billionaires in a corrupt system is textbook populism. And hold on to something everybody. It is no more acceptable in the mouth of someone who calls themself left wing than in the mouth of Donald Trump's right.

Yes, I also like comparing two completely different figs and saying, Donald Trump hates billionaires. Jeff Bezos, because Jeff Bezos is mean to him at the pages of the Washington Post. But the thing that I supported about Donald Trump is that Donald Trump, to Milo's point about vibes, is he basically campaigned on vibes and then just did like, Reaganism times a thousand and just doing bullshit tax cuts and kind of faking your way through everything else. Like Jeremy Corbyn doesn't represent, I'll give you vibes. And then there's an underhanded sort of like, you know, controlling element of like business

power, the way that fucking Donald Trump does. Everything that Jeremy Corbyn is proposing is popular. Like people want to make it scarier. But it's also, it's also like Blair is basically saying that you can't actually have positions on anything. Because the whole idea of like, you know, on the basis of like what left wing or like what progressive government should be, it is one where like you kind of tax the rich, who taxed like the richest in society to like fund very basic things like hospitals and roads and stuff like that. Like that is the fundamental nature of like progressive politics. And so in this kind of thing, he's basically saying, but no, actually wanting this stuff that is at

the core of left wing politics is populism and we shouldn't support it. So it's kind of like, okay, so what should like, what should we be like, advocate? Going one step beyond that, right? Like that's the sort of just basic social democracy with Corbyn talking about wanting to like chain fundamentally alter power relationships between like landlords and the people landlords exploit. What Corbyn's admitting is that there is an irreconcilable conflict in society between landlords and tenants and that Corbyn's government is going to resolve this conflict by coming down on the side of the tenants. Whereas Blair would, Blair believes the only effective form of politics is to deny that these conflicts exist

and ignore them, allowing the people with proper property and power to win literally every single time. This works for about 20 years and then it doesn't. And now this happens. Well, as Mark said, there is a specter haunting Europe, the specter of policies, which if anything are considered quite banal in most of Northern Europe. I mean, this is the thing about Corbyn, right? Is that constantly we get told that we're not willing to compromise, you know, we're being unreasonable, we're being demagogues, we're being populist. I think for quite a lot of people, Jeremy Corbyn is quite safely on the sort of the right wing of their policies. And I'm compromising with him because I think he's

like an electable figure who can bring genuine social democratic change. But I don't particularly like all of his policies. I find them insufficiently like anti-capitalist, I suppose. And I also would say that there's a certain, I mean, the idea of labor is this lock step in unison party when there's so much discord. And to be frank, Jeremy Corbyn and his leadership team have not cracked down on the records. Of course not. I mean, if he was this Stalin-like figure who just expelled all of his critics, the Labour Party would not have been through several years of just circular briefing, the continued existence of Tom Watson as someone I have to be aware of, and so on and so on and so on.

Yeah. So I'll take you to what Blair says next. And again, you might want to hold back onto something for this because he delivers a one-two punch. I can take you to countries whose systems are corrupt. I know ours isn't. Yeah, but I've worked for a lot of the ones who are. It's going to say they pay my speaking fees. I mean, it's what colossal lack of self-awareness do you have to be to be Tony Blair and write that sentence? I can take you to countries whose systems are corrupt. Come with me on this plane. Government in truly centrist places, international waters, baby. Government is about the hard challenge of analysis, policy development and delivery.

No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's fucking not. It's literally, if that is what government is to you, then it is irresponsible for you to be let anywhere near the halls of elected office. Perhaps what you were thinking of was policy delivery. It sounds like what you should be as a civil servant. But there's a difference between the politics and the civil service. Otherwise, why don't you just have an unelected technocracy? Yeah, why not? Because he wants to live in fucking Singapore. That's why. I'm not trying to go too crazy and lose my mind here, but it's just Tony Blair, things are working out great for him. He's rich as hell and he's not in the Hague. So for him, well, everything he's done up until

this point is clearly the winning strategy. And it's like, yeah, but this country has seen the worst wage growth next to Greece, which the EU literally made suffer a great depression. Like people's purchase with adjusted for purchasing parity power and inflation, people earn on average less now in the UK than they did pre-crisis. So clearly it's not working out for everyone who isn't getting speaking fees from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, like wherever the fuck else he fucking takes speaking fees from. He's mostly a Central Asian guy, I think. Yeah, Brunei mostly. Yeah. Although he says politics actually requires an understanding of how the world is changing and complex legacy systems can be adapted to technological change.

So politics is about upgrading windows from XP to Windows 10. Have you tried turning the politics off and then turning it back on again? Or it's more like, well, just complex. So what we need to do is transition from app-based systems to wearable-based systems. Yeah. Have you tried putting your government in the cloud? Yeah. Tony Blair says, oh, all this politics, I don't like it. Corbin, he's exactly the same as Trump because Trump talks about enemies and Corbin talks about enemies. It's the same thing. Anyway, please just try a wearable on the blockchain. Anything to avoid going back to politics. All of these googles with the flashing lights.

But on that note, I'd like to perform a gear shift and begin venturing through the more Tory attempts at either rat fucking or deeply skewing this election to again. I thought they were into pig fucking. This is a new one. Try to make you believe that what you want isn't what you want and it's not something you should go for. In this case, they're trying to scare the pollsters by inventing a new kind of demographic. I'm going to read from Onward. We talked about them in a premium episode of James Meadway. Onward, this sort of Theresa May style One Nation think tank has written a report about a certain new important demographic of voter.

Men plus, the guys who are more vapors. They've invented a new man. Buzz in when you've identified what type of person this is. The workington man is the new voter archetype in the key swing voter in Britain today. Is it what we would commonly like in the English vernacular call a twat? We'll see. It's a guy who wears a yellow vest even though he doesn't need to wear one. Hussain does have it, but you don't know why yet. This voter is likely to be over 45, white and does not have a degree and has lived in his hometown for over 10 years. It's the small business tyrant, the Trump base, the guy who owns a jet ski dealership.

No, that's the British version of Richard Scarry's Busy Town where everyone is racist. He might not own that. He might not own a jet ski dealership. He voted to leave the EU in 2016 and thinks the country is moving away from his views both economically and culturally. I've never heard of this before. Are you saying that there's some kind of what could we call it white working class that's naturally socially conservative that progressive parties need to accommodate if they want to take any kind of power? My head, my hair retracts and a huge flat cap appears. Paul Embry, but I even mug you all this time. He's got to have a fire and a belly. The typical workington man favors security over

freedom across both social and economic axes, but is more interested in security on social issues. He wants government to prioritize apprenticeships rather than cut the cost of student loans. And he listens to Huberstank and thinks that government should promote a shared sense of national identity over a diversity of identities. My racism sock puppet is basically what this is. This is basically just like everyone I grew up with in Dartford. Yeah, they're a demographic now. I also don't think that this person really exists in the way that Onward thinks they exist, right? Because I'm starting to think about this now,

and number one, when you said, for example, that these are people who like economic and social freedom, but they want more... They like security over freedom. Right, they like security over freedom, which to me just reads like, okay, so you just want to arrest more brown and black people. But also have a welfare estate. Right. Why does my wife keep asking for an open relationship? Security over freedom. It's like, I'm scared my wife keeps like googling polyamory.

No, it's called Paul Embry. The dyslexic guy who keeps getting messages about Paul Embry. So, working to man is more likely to think that Paul Embry goes trans as polyamory. Okay, that got me. Working to man is more likely to think that crime is a major issue facing the country, and twice as likely to see it than the rest of the population, to think that immigration is a major issue. He is particularly skeptical about the benefits of globalization,

and thinks we have a special responsibility to protect local institutions, such as pubs and post offices from closure. Why the fuck is this working to man, and what's special about working to him? Why isn't this a Daily Mail comment section now? Imagine people from the Daily Mail comment section, because I just genuinely don't think that I understand what they're trying to get up. But this is also like, you know, whenever there's like a election debate, or whenever kind of someone goes on question time,

and they kind of posture this idea of what this person is, and they kind of use all these like talking points. And really what it comes down to is like, okay, what you want is like a welfare estate for white people, you want more black and brown people in jail, and you want like a militarized police force around the border. Yeah, well, you know who this guy is. This is the guy who I saw replying to a tweet with a picture of a halal Easter egg, saying that you could shove your halal stuff up your arse,

and he had scented arse with an asterisk, and then just said, in all caps, Easter, Easter, Easter, Easter, Easter. Damn, G-wagon, G-wagon, G-wagon, G-wagon, G-wagon. Well, it's all set up, and they're all googly polemteric. Exactly. It's just an insane list of like requirements, like these people care passionately about like putting all the brown people in jail, but also keeping pubs open and the post office. Like, oh, this is a, I is it, I is a sort of the earth working class man in my flatcap.

I spent most of my day actually posting pints of London pride to mosques up and down the country to make the no longer halal. Just bizarre set of priorities to be like, well, I respect all of the troops except the navy for some like bizarre. I'm reminded of a thing about veterans in the US where there was this post that got shared where it's like, veterans believe in America. They're tired of being told we're second best. We want, we believe in a strong economy, strong defense.

We believe in respecting the flag. We don't want to press one for English and two for Spanish. It's just like, no, I think that's just you. Yeah. I think it's just you and you've decided that everyone else cares about this. This is a Taco Bell. That's the highest level of veterans where you get a t-shirt that's just describing yourself only. So the report goes on.

Workington is emblematic of these trends, having only elected a conservative MP once in 1976 in a bi-election, but voted to leave the EU in 2016 and where labor currently has a majority of just 4,000. And the Lib Dems are predicted to win by a poll, by a poll conducted by Swo Jinsson. But that's the thing. This is just the same usual David Goodheart shit, where like some of the polling they use to construct this portrait includes like two-thirds of respondents here believe that communities have become more divided and segregated.

And the same proportion of people believe fewer people are getting married because of a decline in family values. All they're really doing is measuring how many people read the right-wing press. These are, that's just what they're doing. It's just you feed people the same line that like the cities are horrifying and universities turning young people into snowflakes and immigrants are coming to take your jobs, public services and life or whatever. And then you just ask them to summarize what it is that they've read.

It's not particularly insightful, but also it's like, it's not like these areas are about to start voting Tory. I don't think there's anything that Tories could really do to get them to join on. And it's the same research that's been carried out since the media started trying to explain Trump and Brexit in 2016. Yeah, but this is the real Britain. It's the real Britain. I mean, it's what defined Theresa May's premiership in her election campaign in 2017

with all her burning injustices and stuff. But also it's like the bulk of the conservative party's constituencies are rich places in the South. That's the thing. Like this idea that this always harkens to this notion that Britain is this reactionary socially conservative country and it's the flat cap guys in the pub who want more racism. And it never is. You can find some people who agree with this, but the idea this is emblematic of

this is what the true aggregate wants. And also that these people all share these values, that all these weird nitpick things you've thrown together that you believe in are also shared by people that you think have some kind of working class appeal that you lack. It's not a coalition. Like electorally, at least, the conservative party's base is like retired people in hose pipe ban upon pedophilia. It's not going down the fucking working men's club to complain about the immigrants.

Also, I would just point this out to these people are just like the whole thing with the really glib thing where they're trying to like echo thatcher by using the expression frit. This just seems like another thing with like, oh, that guy coined the term Essex man. I'm going to do the exact same thing. It's working to man now. But it's like, I just don't think that's indicative of anything besides a person's deadline writing for their shitty newspaper they write for. I'm sure you can find a handful of these guys.

I'm sure we will, but I'm about to tell you about a handful of these guys. As a matter of fact, I say one more thing about this. So it's like, based saying this thing like no one's no one's catering to these to these concerns that these people have. And they list a bunch of concerns which like anyone who knows anything about these issues knows are just like fake concerns. And like, even if people have those concerns, that doesn't make them real concerns. Like, yeah, like crime, but like crime is like not risen like crime has gone down over

the last 50 years or something like immigration where it's been nothing but 20 years of catering to it or the type of crime that they actually like what we're talking about is like, we would rather arrest like more black, you know, black kids in a council of states. But please can you ignore like where they don't live? Right. But please, please can you ignore like the fact that I'm kind of paying cash in hand to like, you know, under the market or speeding back from the pub. But also I want the police in Tottenham to have tasers. Yeah. And also it's like, there's two things that they've been shown to correlate with crime

and it's poverty and leaded petrol. And like, okay, we've gotten rid of the second one, but the Tories have no interest in getting rid of the first one. So like, what the fuck are they going to do about it? Well, I can, I can provide you a little bit of a portrait of the workington man. And this is from the Times General Election 2019. Jeremy Corbyn's labor isn't working for workington man. Oh, fuck off. It's the fucking satchie thing from 1979.

Labor is working. Original ideas. Like, did you just really just put on now? That's what I call fucking Tory. It's Tory advertising slogans from 1979 every year. Well, if you want someone for a neighbor, and we're not going to say who. So John Strotton, a builder, canvassed views from among a crowd of about 30 in a pub in workington. Oh, Jesus, a real fucking statistical sample there. Yeah. It's because also it's not as though pubs tend to attract people who go to them,

who believe maybe a lot of the same things and have a lot of things in common. It's weird that a lot of people at the pub were really concerned about pubs. It's pretty interesting. I thought it was in correlation we found that. He yelled, Paul, would you vote for Jeremy Corbyn? Across the bar, Paul McNichols called back, no way. And Mr. Strotton shouted again, Brian, would you vote for that Corbyn? No. And you lads, four young men not long out of college nervously shook their heads. Well, I'm shocked that the dudes down the pub at three o'clock in the afternoon

don't want to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. And you're being screamed at by a builder. Like, yeah, of course, whatever you say. It's not like you're going to vote for Jeremy Corbyn because I am. And if you're not, I'll fight you. That's not there. This group, it goes on, appears to prove the theory that workington will turn against labour. No, it doesn't. It doesn't prove anything. Four guys being berated by Al Murray, the pub landlord doesn't prove a fucking thing. I'm also enjoying extremely minor Sopranos associate Paulie McNichols.

We will come back to Paul McNichols. Mr. Strotton opposes further immigration, saying he'd be voting out in another referendum. Quote, all that money that used to go to the EU, like Boris Johnson promised, that's going to the hospitals. As for Sellafield nuclear plant, the biggest local employer, Corbyn will close it down. He'll stop the defense contracts, the Trident submarines, and the warships. He'll close down the fucking nuclear missile pit and bust the nuclear missile mine workers union. Don't think Jeremy Corbyn is under the Labour Party under Corbyn as opposed to nuclear energy.

He personally is opposed to Trident. Or even Trident. There's nothing in that policy. He said he would implement party policy on Trident. It's been a broken town ever since they closed down the mine where we dug all of these naturally occurring nuclear weapons out of the earth. Also, imagine living in Cumbria and being obsessed with immigration. No one immigrates to Cumbria. It's a rainy hillside. There are no jobs in Cumbria. Like he himself is complaining there's no jobs in Cumbria.

What fucking Romanian is like, I'll move to Cumbria where it is rainy and there is no job and everyone in the pub is really angry. Like that guy doesn't exist. Back in the working men's club, Mr. McNichols, a 51-year-old enforcement officer. Oh, what? Safety, immigration, like a bailiff? Damn, I for what am shocked that labor is not polling well in the cop bar. Not even a cop. Not an enforcement officer. I want to be a cop.

Yeah. Like maybe it forces parole. Maybe he just enforces. He just enforces. Just enforces the five-second rule. Damn. A lot of bad news for labor in the Paul Blart arms tonight. They asked a bunch of cops and people who are huge fans of Trident if they'd like to see a Corbin government. And more importantly, they went into one pub where everyone's already friends and they're surprised that they're not all crazy about him. But even then, like there is a local labor MP representing them.

Why didn't they vote this way in 2017? What changed? There was a joke about this in the Onion years ago where there was they're interviewing, like they're like the 10 worst curtain arrangements in America. And it was like by a woman in Teterboro, New Jersey. And it was just all bunch of random names of people in Teterboro, New Jersey were our neighbors. It's just like, yes, it's funny how if you go into a place and you know exactly what you're going to get, you find what you're going to get. I mean, and quite frankly, like it's just, why is this supposed to be indicative of anything besides the pub that afternoon?

Yeah. How do you extrapolate from this? Do you think it would have been a tool representative to ask them if they would vote for their labor MP again rather than Jeremy Corbin? I edited this article down. They said that they don't particularly like Sue Hayman, their local MP, who by the way is a very good MP, but that's beside the point where it's like, but did these people not vote in 2017? Like there was an election since the referendum and working to return to labor MP. What changed other than onward basically rewrote hillbilly elegy with some more stats in it. I mean, because think about this, that like,

imagine how many of those, where you can submit petitions to parliament. And if it gets above a certain point, they have to like respond. How many of them are just like, some imaginary bullshit about some grooming gang that doesn't exist? Like, you know what I'm talking about? Like, just because a thing amasses a certain amount of people who believe it, doesn't necessarily mean that it's worth responding to. And it certainly doesn't mean that it's real. And that's the thing that gets me about this is just like, once again, they've decided that no matter what the larger, we call macro trends are in the country, what matters is a bunch of dudes in Cumbria and the pub at whatever time of day this guy went to,

who under pressure from the guy behind the bar said, no, maybe I won't vote for Jeremy Corbyn. Please don't yell at me, boss man. Like, I just don't, I'm going to vote for Joe Swinson. Just the lone quiet green. Only Joe Swinson can win here. Here's also like one thing that I'm, because I've been sent, when I, when I like work, like for newspapers and stuff, I've been sent out to pubs to do stories. And the one thing that I kind of always knew is that there are people who like are taking the piss out of me, right? Like, even if they're kind of sincere with you, like to a degree, to a degree of there's kind of always this, you know, we're conscious that a newspaper

reporter is here. So let's kind of like, play it up a little bit. So it's probably like, worth kind of mentioning if like, we haven't guessed already that this is not. Well, my penis is eight inches long and I'll never vote for Jeremy Corbyn. You do have to print everything we say. That's right. It's like, Pauling suggests. What was the same like, Paul McSomething, like, who is, who is jacked, by the way, says that he would never vote for Jeremy Corbyn as he rubs this eight pack. Yeah. Um, yeah.

But also like, that's the thing, like just like the doom and gloom predicted by Lib Dem, imaginary numbers or Tony Blair's appeals to the spine of British politics or whatever, none of these are reasonable predictions of doom and gloom. They're designed to make you feel less confident in what you want. Muddy the waters every single time. It's designed to basically say that if Labour has a chance of winning in December, they have to become more racist. But not only do we know this isn't true, we also know that Boris Johnson's like,

decision to roll back certain elements of austerity to again make people's lives just bearable enough that society doesn't fall apart any further. To put this football down in front of me and tell me to take a good long run up to kick at it. We know most of the media probably won't challenge him on this either, either because they're corrupt sycophants or they just, they just don't want to. So ultimately it's up to you when you're confronted with this horse shit, just to make sure that you're shielded from it and just be contemptuous of it. Treat your contempt like your armor.

Point being here, like the way that Labour wins is with popular policies in the manifesto and ground game. Yeah. That's it. I mean, really that's it. The rest of this stuff is just 90% of elections end on the ground. You've got to bring them to the mat and keep them there. Well, Feroz just certainly did that last time.

Hell yeah. I actually didn't get that. Yeah, I didn't get that. Oh, that was Feroz, Feroz just plain crash. Oh yeah, he wasn't a plain crash once. Right, so whoops, here's the thing. There's the Labour alternative is this. Which also would have happened if he hadn't gone out of there.

So the Labour alternative is in this, right? Like, you can see our episode with Grace Blakely in John McDonald's Navy, where we spoke about some of the like big transformative policies that Labour is going to implement. But even with something as simple as hospital car park charges right now, right? To visit a sick relative costs you money. Why should it have to? And it shouldn't have to.

Oh, well, you see, there's a bunch of dudes in the replies as soon as they announced that saying, literally, I will find a reason why this is unacceptable by the end of this sentence. And then going off into something like, oh, it's not very green, is it, Mr. Corbyn? Yeah, and that's the thing, right? There are people out there who are either keen to baffle you or confuse you or keen to demonstrate to you how sensible and wise and above it all they are by explaining at length why the thing that's better for you is not something you should demand,

even when it comes to car parking at a hospital, right? Yeah, well, one of them. Which all of those fucking pop Tories would love. They would love fucking free carpet. They definitely, they hate paying for parking. One of them 100% said that it would incentivize people to go to hospital. Yeah. Oh, what are they going to do next? Free parking at the mosque?

No, thanks. Just to take advantage of the free parking. This actually reminds me of something, right? Where my girlfriend was out door knocking for labor a few days ago, and she knocked on someone's door who said that they wouldn't vote for labor because labor had been cutting their disability benefit for the last eight years, right? Like we are dealing with that and we haven't been in power, but we're dealing with that level of misinformation where...

I read a poll from Joe Swinson that said labor have been cutting my disability benefit. The accepted wisdom is that labor is bad and dangerous, and will be bad for the country and make us poorer because people just keep repeating it. So it's your responsibility to treat people who say this to you condescendingly with the contempt that they deserve. Riley, I don't always agree with everything you say, but years ago you described British conservatives to me as people lecturing you while not realizing that the butt flap of their old-timey pajamas is open,

and or people lecturing you while reading from a book that they don't realize they're reading upside down, and it really is true. And I really feel like that now that we have a slightly bigger audience, a transatlantic audience, we should say that again, these people are dumber than shit, and everything they say is just like what showed up in like their boomer email dispatches this morning, and it means nothing. So I'll leave us with this thought from John McDonnell, and this is from the cover of the volume of essays he edited, Economics for the Many, and it's a quote that really sticks with me.

We are seeking nothing less than to build a society that is radically fairer, more democratic, and more sustainable, in which the wealth of society is shared by all. And so this is back to me now. If someone tells you that that's a bad idea, you can just not listen to them. It's fine to just not listen to them. Or ask them, why? Or simply say, no, fair is bad. It's the fairness, Joker, guys. So here's the thing. What can you, the listener, do?

Because I'm pretty sure that most of the people listening to this are probably going to vote Labour if they're a member of the British electorate. And the thing to remember is that the other parties... And even if they're not, if you're listening in Russia, as we know, most of our listeners and funders are. The other parties have all the money, right? But we have tons and tons of people, and that includes you, the listener. So Momentum has these really helpful tools,

plan to win and my campaign map. And what you should do is, we'll link these in the description, just go on to them, sign up to Doornock, sign up to campaign. Yeah. And they're distinct from the Lib Dem app, because it doesn't tell you to vote Labour, because you're already going to do that. It tells you how to campaign more effectively. The thing to remember, right, is that most parties, Doornock and campaigning organizations are so small,

that all they can do is try to build turnout in their base. But ours is big enough, and it's only big enough, if everyone signs up and everyone does it, that we can actually have meaningful conversations on the doorstep, and that we can act... That's how we flipped Canterbury. That's how we flipped Kensington. We didn't flip it because of some strange forces that Paulster predicted with some math.

Or Canterbury man, or whatever. Weird Lib Dem necromancy. Just as a final note, if like me, you're kind of out on the left wing of this, and you're quite cynical and disillusioned about electoralism, I would say to suspend that cynicism for precisely one election cycle, this one, because it matters. And you know the old anarchist slogan about how if voting changed anything, they would make it illegal?

This is about as close as you can get, in terms of an attempt to depress turnout, right? So just vote and campaign, please. And just think of how sweet it's going to be, to be in like Tim Farron's replies, the day that Corbyn walks into Downing Street. Just think about that. Let that be your energy, and let your contempt be your armor.

Friday the 13th, be the day of posting. And remember the story from up front, about the super rich leaving the country, and remind them of it when he's elected, and they don't. Yeah, absolutely. All right, I think that's about it for us. But vote Labour. Yeah, do that.

Yeah, just do that. So register to vote too. We'll put a link for that in the description too, because it's like me and basically everybody who listens to this show, you live in Britain, you're constantly moving, because you don't have a fucking fixed address. Make sure your registration is up to date. And if you're a student, you can register to vote,

and you can vote in either your home constituency, or your uni constituency. Just one though, don't commit. Yeah, if they want us more marginal. Yeah, do that. That's legal. That's tactical voting. That's the only kind of tactical voting you should consider doing.

All right, often your home one will be more marginal. So let's see, I think other than just reminding you that we've got a Patreon, subscribe to it five bucks a month, that we are going to do a live show on December the 5th. That's not completely confirmed, but it's likely. So eyes peeled for that. And on the 12th, we're going to do some kind of election live stream. Yes, absolutely.

We're going to do some stuff. But in the meantime, we're going to be playing Fortnite and talking about the election. So in the meantime, just all you can do is do literally everything you can to make sure we have a labor government coming into power for 2020, because my fucking God, it's important. Yeah, and how rare this is. Also, I don't know about this just yet,

but I'm going to be away for the election. So if you live in like South East London and can vote for me, actually, can they do that? I've never done it. You can actually get a proxy vote, yeah. Yeah, you can get your parents to do it. So trash future listener competition, who wants to be Hussein's proxy vote?

Hussein's parents. Yeah, why is one person in Bexley voting for Sinn Féin? All right, goodbye, everybody. Bye. Bye.