TRASHFUTURE - Pissphoria feat. Abigail Thorn

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

For this week’s free episode, Riley, Milo, Hussein, and November join special guest Abigail Thorn (@PhilosophyTube) to discuss three disparate incidents in the UK that expose the relentless march of the War on Being Normal. That’s right—three incidents in British politics that show the implacably deranged tenor of anti-trans politics in Britain, a position fully accepted by both major parties and the entirety of the media. And yet its proponents are miserable and convinced there’s a grand conspiracy where every single organisation on earth that doesn’t share 100 percent of their views has been infiltrated by their enemies. This sounds weirdly familiar, but if you say that out loud then Rosie Duffield gets to call an airstrike on you (we don’t make the rules). If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

Hello and welcome to this episode of TF. It is Riley and Milo and Hussein and November for those of you who are just tuning in. Yes, I changed my name. I changed my name to a month because I thought it would make me interesting. And you know what? It's worked. That's right. Also, in other news that you may have missed, if you sign up from, I think, two weeks from now via the Apple Patreon app on your iPhone,

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that's right fire up ask G i mean if you really want to be old school find someone who has a subscription to this show and bring a tape recorder. Ooh. Yeah. No, do not do that. And buy off of the heritage. Home taping is killing podcasts. And I want to introduce our guest. It is Abby Thorne. Once again, Abby.

How's it going? Hello, hello, hello. It's nice to be here. Always a delight to be on TF. So we've got a few news items to cover, one of which is something- Those keep happening for fuck's sake. Some of which is going to be a little bit of UK politics.

And but mostly- Well that keeps happening too for fuck's sake. Mostly today what we're going to be talking about is transphobes continuing to be viciously anti-normal. You know what? That keeps happening as well. Or more. Time is a flat circle, I feel strongly. However, before we do that, couple of news items. Number one, finally, Kirstarmer, after announcing that he promises to not have an industrial strategy to respect any kind of mad tax cuts that Jeremy Hunt puts through, because he's going to try something

new, Jeremy Hunt. He's going to try- There's only one mad Jeremy that Kirsten Armour will respect. Let me tell you- Clarkson. Yeah, that's right. I think what he's doing with that farm is very admirable. It's, hopefully, economy of Oxfordshire. And it's great for blokes who enjoy machinery. So what Hunt is doing is he's doing an experiment in governing the British state.

This is pushing the frontiers of what is possible to do. He will be cutting funding to pay for tax cuts to stimulate growth in the economy. Wow, we've never tried that. The thing is, right, this is also the thing that if we recall, mere moments ago under Liz Truss, like, crashed the economy instantly. Oh, no, but they're going to be funded this time because of tax cuts, plus spending cuts. It's going to be great. Oh, okay, fine.

Don't worry, we're reducing the UK to one cop. He's going to be so busy. However, looking at this, Kearstarmer has stood up and bravely said, the one cop should be a woman. See, I interviewed for this and it's nice to have that support. Not that kind of woman. He has stood up and he has bravely said, no more energy drinks for under 16s. That's right. Getting to grips with the real issue of our times.

The big problems. There is a monster haunting Britain and that monster exists on every corner. I don't think children could be trusted with wings. Some of them are too young to drive. The thing is right, like energy drinks are legitimately terrible for you. And it is kind of bad as one of about a million

like ultra processed food things that now you can't be a teenager or an adult for that matter anymore without being extremely caffeinated all the time. But I tend to view this mostly as a return to kind of like old labor instincts, but it's like, you know, the dead hand of power because when Blair or Brown did this, they needed a sort of a Jamie Oliver figure, right? To pilot this mecca, to drive this thing through. An Anthony Warril Thompson.

Yeah, get in the mecca, otherwise Anthony Warril Thompson will have to do it again. But like this time, it's just purely off their own backs, just like what can we do to, you know, make society a bit more repressive and controlling? Let's just do some nanny states. Let's ban kids from drinking horrible energy drinks. They go off to take time. Anthony Warril Thompson's shoplifting. Cheese in a black hat.

Giant, giant. Stop me now, security guards. It's not really shoplifting. And that way it's kind of escalated to mecha armed robbery. I like to imagine it's Starmor as a kind of loose Roman emperor just sort of throwing figs at what he's going to ban next. Too much sugar and figs, you can't be doing that.

If you want an easy to understand normal metaphor to understand what this means, imagine Starmor as a Roman emperor throwing figs at a mecha piloted by Anthony Warhol. That's right. Roman Emperor throwing figs at a mecha piloted by Anthony Warotops. That's right. Are you following along at home? Please subscribe to the Patreon so we can finally get some carbon monoxide detectors for the shooting.

But yes, we're one of the later ones. I don't mean like Nerva. Yeah, we mean like Septimosevrus or something. But you can't spell Nerv without Nerv. Yeah, I'm not alligabalus. Anyway, this is like, yes, it is, as you say at Nova, it is clearly bad for children to be like giving themselves cardiac episodes. Yeah.

By like drinking, again, by drinking sort of sweet things marketed to them. But again, like when you think about what the priorities are, what he wants to use the power of the state to do, it's just to take stuff away. And kids aren't only drinking these because they're available, they're also drinking them to take the edge off everything else about being in Britain, being insanely stressful. I was going to say that like, you know, I'm currently in a stage in my life where I'm sort of having to work in a shop for a little bit. And like, so I've had my first attempt, my first-hand experience

of selling these awful products to children as if I am a legal drug dealer. And you're right. I think in the sense that a lot of these kids just buy these things, and vapes included as well, it's because they're bored and there is literally nothing else to do except for sort of get high on whatever you can. And like in Britain, that has sort of always been kind of the climate, like what I would sort of define youth culture as just whereas nothing to do in your shitty little town. And so until you have the money to move into London to go buy more expensive drugs, you have to sort of deal with what you have right now. J-Yeah, until you ascend to like- C-And if you're in a shitty little town, your drugs of choice are caffeinated drinks,

over sweet vapes, and like if some guy like has like the worst weed you've ever smoked in your life. All of which is to say, I feel like Kier Starmer is really looking after the little man here. And that is like the guy in your school that so we'll sell you the worst weed that you can imagine. Well, that's the last business left in Britain now.

Who's saying I'm imagining you trying to give a lecture on structural causes of malaise, like a 15 year old? You say, you don't want this monster. You think you do because of austerity. I had this debate with a child because they wanted to buy, it gets worse, it gets worse, it gets worse. I had a debate with a child because- Did you win? Did you win first?

C. No, I lost. They wanted to buy this cheap energy drink and I was like, look dude, you want to go for like, go get something a bit more premium? Have you looked at sort of the monster free punch? And they were like... L. You're upselling a child in months? C. I was like, come on. L. You're like, no, no, boost is not going to cut it, my G. C. No, the margins of the monster are so much better. Please buy that. Like, you know, please do it if they didn't do it. And so are you, are you, I once again lost a debate to a child.

But you had the last laugh because you swapped that out for a savoury race at the last minute. He thought he was getting blue razz and then boom, a hit of roast chicken. You'd hate a savory energy drink. It's like the red wine flavored Red Bull. Are you saying that you are a kind of energy drink sommelier? I feel like I did try that as a bit a long time ago. And you didn't quite, like, I didn't, it didn't quite hit, but I bought, I did buy like a wine glass somewhere

for the pure, for the purpose of when I was bored during lockdown, doing the Monster Energy Somalia thing. But to bring it back around, right? We mentioned earlier that like they're not doing any of the green investment, any of the industrial strategy, right? The strategy for governing Britain is not even the one that was a giveaway to industry that industry wanted, because that's adapting to the climate crisis in the way that capital wants to adapt, which is, hey, here's some investment. It's been completely de-risk. Congratulations. You go build it. Yeah, literally the inflation recovery act of like, here is infinite free money to go

and like do solar panels. Please do solar panels and drift it for all your worth. Sends the caffeinated children into the mines. That's what I said. The thing is, and I identify with Kirsten a little bit here, because he's too submissive for his own good. Right? He's given them everything that they want. And they're like, yeah, this is perfect. Cheers. Wait, wait until the next election.

And that weight is driving him insane. And so he is just offering more and more things that no one wants or needs because he's like, please, you know, it's important that you entirely on side with me. So I'll give you anything, absolutely anything. It's an interrogation strategy where you just don't say anything and you just let Kirsten and Monologue until he's like, shall we abolish the navy? I'm open to it.

Okay, what if all of the energy drinks were given to the Navy in order to reduce their staff by 50% in order to fund a tax cut on capital gains? How about that? They're just still not saying anything. He's talking to a rubber doll. One ship left, HMS Relantless. So, that's right. But if you want it. HMS Monster, which is a rubber doll. One ship left, HMS Relantless. So that's right.

But if you want to, HMS Monster, which is a tongue folk, if you want to talk though, about a perfect example of the absolute decrepitude of the governance of this country, the disease that has taken hold of the governing class, you must look no further than the charts describing the price action of ARM, which was like Britain's only important tech company in any sense of the word. Yeah.

Yeah, who are they? What do they make? So ARM is a microchip designer. Yeah, they make micro processes, right? But they design micro processors and work with everybody else who makes them. It's an incredibly important company. Yeah, it's sort of like, okay, so they're a British company, which exists because the University of Cambridge like spun off a tech thing. That's part of what the University of

Cambridge still exists for us to create companies like this. That's like a, I guess you could fashionably call it a tech incubator, right? Yeah. And long suffering standup comedian podcast. Yeah, exactly. The two things that Cambridge makes. So, yeah, they had this company, ARM, that is tremendously valuable, tremendously strategically important. And what any government that was interested in governing should have done many years ago was park a tank division on their front lawn and go into the head office and say, if you try and move any of this shit out of the UK will fucking kill you.

That's like legitimately that is that kind of protectionism is the only like valid method of governing here. And what they've done instead is not do that. And surprise, surprise, a bunch of it is being offshored. And like this has been in the offing for years that ARM cannot wait to get out of the UK and into the US. So specifically what happened, right? And by the way, that thing of parking tanks on the lawn and saying you will not move the technology out of this geographical area is what the US did. And again, you have a shitload of stuff like the defense production act that you can use

to do this. It worked for their purposes. Now what happened in 2016 is that after the Brexit vote pushed down the... I'm sorry, I'm going to put on my Steve Bray top hat here. After the Brexit vote pushed down the value of Sterling, Masayoshi Saan walked into ARM and said, hey, I see that you're now selling at a discount because of Sterling. I'm going to take out a bunch of loans to buy you and put you in our Saudi investment vehicle. And then it was just allowed to go ahead, right?

It was allowed to go ahead by Philip Hammond and Theresa May to make Brexit look good. Cool. How does this make Brexit look good? Because people wanted to invest in a British company. So you're telling me that ARM is based on Newcastle United? We sold it to the Saudis and now everyone makes fun of them and just chance at them. So it's actually owned half by sports direct. I mean, what it sort of is, is like, if in the early years of the industrial revolution, we had taken the first steam engine made in Britain and dumped it on cinder blocks outside

the factory and gone, does anyone want to buy this and take it out of the country because I'm sick of looking at it? Mason We saw the first steam engine to the Meiji Emperor. Mason You're listening at home and you want an easy to understand metaphor. If we sold the first steam engine to the Meiji Emperor. Mason There's a mecha with Anthony Warhol Thompson

inside in there. Mason Kearstarm's got some fix. It's a lot like if Selum and the Magnificent, right? Yeah. So the reason that we bring this all this up at the same time is if you are to have, again, it's not saying AI is great, right? None of that.

But if you are to have an industrial strategy, if you do believe that it's important to have AI capabilities and stuff and have lots of data centers and be able to at least, if not fabricate, then at least design chips and be important in the global economy, then keeping that company in the country would be super important. Just as, for example, would be building wind turbines, adapting to the climate crisis. I have a second piece of national security thing here, which is that this is going to segue into or tie into a later segment. But I will point out that ARM

is like an architecture was co-designed by a trans woman. So if you want Britain to be a sort of competitive economy in the 21st century, two things. One, you have to stop technology companies from offsuring. And two, you have to be fucking nicer to trans women. This is what I'm fucking saying about about Kim Petrus, because like, we are so obsessed in this country with like trying to stop children transitioning. And it's like, Kim, Kim Petrus, falling behind in the transition race. We literally are. China's trans kids are fucking mogging our trans kids. They literally are. Like Germany is like decades ahead of us on like, she's like a massive trans pop stuff.

Look at the Americans are like producing people like Hunter Schaefer. Like we are falling fucking behind. Britain can only produce such rudimentary transsexuals as November Kelly and Abigail Thorne. And me, like, what have we got? It's you and me and Paris Lise and his, uh, Yasmin. It's like the Sten gun in World War Two. Like, you know, it was functional. We're still doing cavalry charges and they're fucking building the A-bomb, like...

I'm sort of, I quite like this. I'm sort of proud of this. Our boys have only got access to trans women that are just a couple of pipes welded together. But they're still fighting, Jerry. Yeah. The closest thing I have to patriotism is that my gender is effectively two steel pipes welded together, but they're still fighting, Jerry. Yeah, the closest thing I have to patriotism is that my gender is effectively two steel pipes welded together in a dying country, but still somehow works. Can you use the Spitfire of Transfine? That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me, thank you. That's right.

He's changing his name to Spitfire, is it you? Shit, maybe. No, not again, I just got used to the new one. So let's flip the order around a little bit, actually. Rather than talking about the ongoing, I'd say, labor party falling apart because it has received a homeopathic amount of... Of its own medicine, yes. Indeed.

I want to skip directly to our core topic,, which is fucking be nicer to trans women indeed Yeah, I've picked three stories. I think that are again like well cool sparks of interesting conversation here Which is just stuff that's happened in the last week or so about just the viciously vicious campaign against being regular Yeah being waged. Yeah. Being waged by trans folks. It's back to business as usual. We had like, I think less than 24 hours of people being like, maybe transfer be as bad actually. And then we were just like, no.

Well, we had the like dead kids bad make us feel upset. That immediately got diverted in ways I've previously talked about into. We have to ban kids from being on the phones. Yeah. And so now we're, as you say, back to business as usual. The next day we had, well, should we just ban them from sports? And then now the NHS are doing another fucking consultation. This is like, should we allow trans children to exist or should we fire them out of a sort of canon?

At the Germans. Well, so, but they have V2 trans women. See the German dependence on like individually impressive but hard to maintain trans women is ultimately going to be there undoing. It was all just cheap Russian gas. These German Neo-pussies seized up in the cold of Stalingrad. Whereas the poorly engineered Russian pussy continued to function due to its high tolerance.

Mason We've got the German Neo-Vegina has a lot of finicky, not user-replaceable parts that are going to break down and quite a long supply chain. Whereas the Soviet Neo-Vegina doesn't matter that it's cheap. It comes out of the factory unpainted. There's two million more of them in Siberia moving west. Mason Yeah. To be fair, some of the NHS Neo- near vaginas that I've encountered are fucking phenomenal. Oh, I've seen. I've seen the binder. Yeah. They'll nearly kill you.

Alexander Kuntashnikov presents his new invention. You might well be killed at the operation, but I've seen some that are fucking, you wouldn't believe it. But like, have you seen? It would be nice if they let me have one one of these days. I've seen. This is you people would believe. Literally a thing that can be true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so what one of the one of the sort of items that we're discussing is actually a a row, a complete, again, invented controversy.

All of these by the two of these three things are invented controversies. We still invent things in this country. Controversies, not others. We no longer design the trunkie. We no longer design sort of the single most important commodity for what most people believe will be the global economy going forward. But we do stir up a lot of controversy in pay column. We don't even design controversies.

We import most of them from the US. So terrible they're closed down the controversy factory in Port Albert. This is this lend lease, you know? Yeah. So the basically the there was a proposal put forth in parliament for people to be able to be not misgendered on death. Yeah. This is so basically right of the two documents that the state has in relation to the two most important ones are birth certificate and death certificate, right? And so if you don't get a gender recognition certificate to amend your birth certificate, your death certificate will match the sex it says

on your birth certificate, right? And this is a focus of particular cruelty, right? Because whenever a trans person dies, if they don't have a gender recognition certificate, which very few of us do, because they're a pain in the ass to get, then the state is sort of like legally obliged to misgender you. Let's mention why it's a pain in the ass to get. Firstly, it's expensive. Secondly, it's humiliating. Thirdly, you have to submit one piece of evidence from every two months that you have lived in what they call your acquired gender. They all have to be one piece of evidence from every two months that you have lived in what they call your acquired gender. They all have to be different. They all have to have your

name, address and a gender title like Ms. or Mr. on. So just listen to imagine if you've been living another one, you have to you have to get your spouse's permission or get divorced. Yes. So listen to imagine if I asked you to submit one piece of evidence from every two months of the last period of your life for like, I don't know, 10 years. It's a fucking impossible administrative task. And this, in this case, right? The response to this quite reasonable, oh yeah, this reasonable bare minimum of, hey, maybe we should just at least let's allow dead people to self-identify.

Yeah. Basically, they're like, no, it's too dangerous. Yeah. So self-identification by the back door is the objection to this, right? Yeah. Which what if the dead start identifying as the living and then will be in some kind of shorn of the dead situation? This is the thing.

Like so many of the objections to self-idea just melt into into the ether when you are applying them to dead people, right? Because you can't be like, what if someone uses this falsely? If what they're using it to do falsely is decompose. No, even then, I think that's being slightly too generous to them, because they also melt into nothingness when you apply them to living people. The objective has always been like, what if you could like self-idea and then enter a women's bathroom, which is completely defeated by the fact that you don't need to show your birth

certificate to enter a fucking toilet, right? Wait, what? Yeah, I know. You've just been showing it every time. I've been carrying it around for no reason. I think this is what in UNDO Studios, Ian Downskin would call trying to control the conversation, like what they want. So there's a quote here from Lucy Marsh, who's the spokesperson from the society for making life worse or whatever it's called, some right-wing think tank. She says, It's extremely concerning that labor appears to be pushing towards introducing gender self ID through the back door. If coroners are allowed to lie on public record about the sex of deceased children,

this will surely be a slippery slope towards self ID becoming normalized in the NHS, right? Getting more and more perverse wanting to know the sex of deceased children. It is, but they want us to get tied up in these conversations about who can change the legal documents and when and what the documents allow you to do. While the call lie that transphobia rallies around remains intact, which is that they maintain that human beings cannot change sex. And like, my response to this is just an absolute like chad meme, yes, we can. Like, you can change sex. It's easy. It's fun to do if other people will fucking get over themselves and let you. And legal documents need to fucking reflect that reality.

Yeah, I mean, this is the thing, right? It's not a difficult administrative thing to do. What it is for transphobic people and institutions is a conceptually difficult thing to do. Right? Is the switch to like, it is not difficult to make a field editable, right? But it is difficult to like think of that specific field is like in order to make that change, right? And yeah, absolutely. So the This the responses from various like MPs and campaigning groups haven't say as you've been saying Abby It's like oh this will allow people to to self ID through the back door But so yeah, wait the back mort door, are they concerned about like a night

of the living dead situation where they don't respect changing rooms? Or, but also again, the idea that, no, we must never bend truth to accommodate the extreme and dangerous ideology, and that will allow us to misrecord the sex of dead children. And what I always, what I enjoy,

this whole sort of segue into the next sort of news item that we talked about, which was of course, the one that was also had a very good article in The Guardian written about it by Jonathan Lew, because I imagine the sports section didn't get the same memo the op-ed section did. Registratively, yes. It's fully not being accountable to the same couple of people. Yeah.

That basically, hey, how come this, again, the policy exchange seems to have declared, I don't know, kind of war sort of on park run, which if you're not British, is an event that's been happening in Britain for a while, where it's just a group of people running around a park, where you don't, there's no winners, they record a finishing time if you want. And you can do it on an iPhone. Like it's it's not rigorous in any sort of way. It's meant to be a bit of fun. It's like extremely casual. And again, like I have a similar objection to to Abbey's about

death certificates, right, about this, which is that I don't want to concede the idea that like the value of records in professional sport is something that can be threatened by the existence of like trans people competing as our gender in the thing. But this is still a case where it doesn't matter anyway because it's nothing like that. It is purely casual. There is no reason to be rigorous about this. There is no possible way you can expect a loose organization of park runners to try and like be sequencing people's fucking genomes or whatever the fuck like the IOC. It's just, what it is, is it's an attack on like human dignity of trans people in a way that is completely impractical and intended to scare some quite nice

people who like to run in the park into line. Well, also the threat is that government funding from Sport England would be withdrawn, right? Yeah. I understood that correctly. Is that if this right-wing think tank, like the exchange of absolute batshit nonsense institution, have been like, oh, if you don't start sequencing everyone's genome and recording a faulty understanding of what biological sex is to reflect our mad fantasies about it, then we'll withdraw your taxpayer's money. And it's just like, but I really loved it, though, that the news went down to interview the people who do parkrun,

and they were all just like, no, I should think it's fine. It's just a bit of fun. Yeah, it's a bit of fun. I think it's nice that sports more inclusive things of this nature. Like you actually ask people about this. And particularly you ask them about this on the level of a sport that they can and do actually participate in themselves rather than some like elite sort of athletics thing where people's instinct is maybe, oh, people work really hard on that. So you know, it's important to preserve the imagined sanctity of it. In this case, it's fully looked just like, no, it's a bit of fun. Therefore, why are you asking me about this?

And wait a while, wait until you hear about their plan to let trans women participate in tossing the pill about with chugsy. That's really gonna attract some controversy. I mean, it's that and then trans men are getting the rights to participate in getting shirtless and hitting each other over the back with chairs Which is gonna be a huge moment for them, you know, I'm very happy for them. And this is this comes back to I think the Whenever these sort of media and political obsessions that make perfect sense between columnists and MPs when they talk to one another That make perfect sense between columnists and MPs when they talk to one another Hmm actually break containment and reach the world of people with actual concerns doing actual things again and again

They are met with at best confusion Which I find hard one of one of the best Determinance of whether or not someone holds transphobic attitudes is whether they say that they know a trans person, right? Like having actual exposure to trans people makes you aware of the fact that we aren't in fact sort of acid blood-having monsters. Hmm. And... Some of us are. Well, yeah, of course. Naturally. But like in general, I for one, two bits of steel welded together in

like a shed and wouldn't bass it. But no, dad's love her. Yeah, exactly. But so yeah, it's, I think it's this thing where it this kind of transphobia flourishes in isolation and like radicalization and watching GV news or being on the fucking internet all the time. And those are things that do not correlate very well with going out and like having a run in the park. Touching grass! Literally touching grass! Logistically, what they've done is they've gone to the like All England Touching Grass Association and gone, hey, have you seen our weird online beefs? You have to get in on these or else. Park Run is like the perfect lab rat for this because it is like the most like head

empty pure fives people who have been on 10,000 hinge dates and think junkyard golf is awesome level of people who aren't online. Because fucking Shazer and Dino right who live for curry night at weatherspunt are not habitually driving themselves insane on the internet about trans women. Because they've got better shit to be doing. You ask Dino what he thinks about trans women and he'll go, some of them are fit. And there endeth the lesson, you know.

There's nothing more to it. And that's a king. And you know, this is, if you go back to what the policy exchange is saying, they say, it's important to do this because they have to say, they have to have a fig leaf justification other than just, it's important to do this because they have to have a fig leaf justification other than just it's important to do this because we are mental. Their fig leaf justification is it's important to do this because women and girls are now self-excluding and our achievements are to not a public record. But, doctor, I am women and girls and I self-exclude from shit constantly because of all of this

mad bullshit. Well, and also if you, it's also if you're talking about cis women and girls, this is a time when national legislators, if they see a tall cis woman with a short haircut, will start a panic about her in the press. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Tilda Swinton, you're on fucking notice. Again, like, no, this happens.

This happens. Where, I think it was Klein in the U.S., as you mentioned in the Guardian article, says, like, it created a national panic because, like, she saw, like, a just a tall cis woman going and, like, competing in a sport. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is insanely sadistic and, like like very racist, by the way, like, particularly in sort of like professional sport, or like there's really like higher levels of sport, you saw like athletes, like former Olympians talking amongst themselves speculating about which specifically black athletes,

they thought had like elevated testosterone levels because they were secretly men. Like Caster Semenu was like sort of patient zero of this, but like, well, not even like it goes back way before her, but it's absolutely repulsive. And it's so, so strange to see it sort of like out of, if you like, its element and now fully in the realm of fun runs. Well, it's already, it's already been in school sports as well. Like there's dads in the US who've had to be removed from like school sports games because they just start yelling about how some nine year old on the opposite team is trans. And it's like, sorry, you're mad.

You're mad. Well, it is. It is a kind of like a mimetic disease. Yeah, you you become unable to perceive the world. Brain worms. The anti-woke mind virus. And the third item is the... I think my favorite one of the three.

Yeah. This is in some ways the most depressing because it's the most mental. Yeah, well it's the most strain, right? It's the... Because this is like ultimately most transphobic arguments come down to something like this. Yeah. Yeah.

Which is a, this is this, this woman has been being threatened with a fine by her counsel, whereas the Daily Mail calls them counsel bureaucrats over like posting images of like top surgery to her front door, being like, I am making a point. I'm sick to your front door. Physically posting like in her window. Printing them out like, like scars making a point. I'm posting to your front door. Physically posting in her window. Printing them out, like scars of top surgery and breast removal. I'm posting this and not in a horny way.

Yeah. Yeah. But why though? Well. In God's name, why do this? Well, thank you for asking, November. That's because she wasn't just as well, photographs of surgery. It was also an advert for a book by Helen Joyce.

Of course, irreversible damage. No, sorry, that's Abigail Schreier. Allow me to fill you in on who Helen Joyce is. Helen Joyce, former editor of The Economist, caught on camera saying that we need to reduce the number of trans people who exist in the world. Every single one of these people has a problem for a sane society, I think is the exact quote. Even the ones who are happily transitioned. Also, much of her book, which is called Trans, when Ideology Meets Reality, is actually lifted from anti-semitic conspiracy theorist Jennifer Billick, without attribution, which made Jennifer Billick extremely upset. And Joyce has repeatedly... Oh, not plagiarizing your anti-Semitism. Yeah, but Joyce has repeatedly recommended that people go and read Billick's anti-Semitic screeds.

Additionally, she also posted an anonymous handwritten letter supporting her gender critical views. They say, everybody likes me. Yeah. I regret sending that now. They see everybody likes me. Yeah. I regret sending that now. I'm kidding. It's just, it's so strange and abnormal. And I think at time and again, whenever you get into what we are now sort of like obliged for impartiality reasons to call gender critical views, they are so much

more in conflict with, if you like, a sane society than the weirdest, most like, utre insane trans person I've ever seen. Like, it's genuinely repulsive, alarming people, you know? Because she's sticking up pictures of like, gore and medical photographs on like, where the public can see them and it's just like, what do you think is going to happen? So medical procedures, like it's like me posting a photo of like mid hip replacement on my front door and being like, this is you are irreversibly like lowering the number of healthy hip bones in the world. And also statistically, you're more likely to regret that than top surgery. That's significantly so, yeah. Also it's like posting a picture of a sort of, as you say, a mid hip surgery and then saying, anyway, now that we've all looked at some surgery, would you care to, would

you care to come inside and listen to my views? Or just walk past my front door. Like would you, would you like to have your experience of walking down my street enlivened by like seeing a bunch of like scalpel incisions. Honestly, if I saw that pin to somebody's front door, my first thought would be like, I'm sorry, Mrs. Blogs, like someone's playing a nasty joke on you. They're trying to scare you by picking this up by somebody's post something horrible on your door. Mrs. Blogs,

are you okay? And then she's like, no, actually, it's the transgenders that try to take away all precious girls fertility. And I'd be like, I'm actually it's the transgenders that try to take away all precious girls fertility. And I'll be like, oh, I'm sorry, you're mad. Yeah. Don't fuck with a surgeons mafia. We'll be back. We'll be posting pictures of appendectomies all over your front windows.

You don't want to know what the gender surgeons mafia leaves in your bed if you wrong them. A delightful German pussy. So, yeah, but very finicky. But so it's like to bring all these three items together. Finally a machined pussy. That's right, yeah. Very fine tolerances.

That's what the Burgheim Pisschheim manufactures all day. Now, he works in the factory that like creates the machines, that machines some of the parts in it, you know. He does the tooling. Once again, didn't see him. Yeah. I went last weekend, didn't see him. It was a hard week at the Pussy Machine Tooling Factory.

They didn't talk about it so much, but they did make pussy for the Nazis during the war. No time for piss this thick. I'm too focused on machining the tooling for the urethra machine, ironically. Sure. I do see the a cruel, cruel iron-insis. Such a cruel irony, I suppose. Not as I'm into women's piss anyway, so I guess it is.

Is he not? Is he genuinely sexist about piss? Well, he's in the men's toilet. Can he tell? Oh, yeah. Are the toilets of Burkina even gendered? No, he's by the urinals. Anyone can use the urinals. But I guess it's typically men. I'm gonna need to like go to Burkina do some like field research and you know, like I'm here to do two things. I'm here to have like alarming lesbian sex in a sort of crowd of bewildered gay men. And I'm here to find

out what the piss guys deal is about female piss. Bring in the field recorder. But then having it taped over. Just doing a blind taste test. Can he tell the difference? Remember what I said about the weirdest trans women not being as weird as Turfs? Well, it's true, though. Your does like piss tastes like an HEV. New thing to be insecure about getting piss disfor...

Piss for you. Yeah. Episode title. New thing to be insecure about getting piss dis- piss for ya! Yeah, yeah. Episode title. Anyway, but to bring all three of these different stories, just from the last week, by the way, just in the last week, all together. Being trans in Britain is like you wake up and some new shit like this has just dropped. And you still have to go to work, you know, or do whatever the fuck you're going to do with your day. We all have a sanity meter. It's draining that. Yeah, you're losing D six every day. But to bring it, I think back all these things together, these three items is in every case, these are people defending something that

is increasingly able to do is always very indefensible. And what is, as it gets pushed further and further and further, as it sort of steadfastly takes positions against, like, for example, we have to guard against dead people invading like women's spaces, or like, we have to make, we have to install a kind of penis detector on just like the bit of fun run through the park. The penis detector, the inflatable penis detector arch at the London Barrett. Or like, I am wallpapering my house in surgery photos and the council cannot stop me. In all cases, this is just a relentless commitment to being as weird and off-putting as possible. Yeah, and I think the thing is, I go back and forth on the be normal thing that we do sometimes,

because I like abnormality, and I think we should make room for more abnormality in public life. What I think it is is cruelty, specifically. And I think the thing that people are responding to when someone from Sky News comes to their park and is like, do you think we should be like pulling down everybody's shorts to figure out what they've got going on under there? They're mostly experiencing that as a kind of strange cruel thing to do. And I think most people want society to be kinder. And that is something that has been rigorously

opposed by every political tendency in Britain. Mason I was also going to ask, like, is this... And you would know more about this than I would. But my sort of feeling from the outside is that the sort of weird behaviors that seem to emerge come out. It seems like they become weirder as they sort of realize that the political energy behind them is very much on their side. And so, like, in order to sort of realize that the political energy behind them is very much on their side. And so, in order to sort of maintain the fantasies that trans people are this sort of existential danger, you can sort of begin with the sort of the sort of the bathroom bullshit, it's stuff that pretty much every British political party has taken on as being receptive to.

And so, in order to maintain that movement of some kind, it has to become weirder and it has to become much more invasive. Because how else are you going to present yourselves as being underdogs or being the mishirred or the confluence with these anti-woke movements and their whole, we are the malign class and no one listens to us. The government and the opposition parties do very much listen to you. In fact, if anything, they are too receptive to you. Mason We don't refuse to meet with gender critical groups. Lulee Yeah. I think that's very perceptive. Like,

I think like any radical group, there is always this drive, as you say, to be more extreme, to hype each other up and to get more attention. Mason And it feels like this is sort of going to be an interesting long-term trend to observe. Interesting also being, meaning horrific, to the degree that it seems like the political parties kind of are receptive to the turfs and everything on the basis, partly on the basis that, well, if you listen to them now, then maybe you can sort of quell their extremities, you can sort of contain them. But the reality is, no, when you listen to them, they become more extreme. The whole, the nature of their movement is one that demands, the one that sort of demands its followers to

become more and more extreme to the point where there are sort of... I don't know whether there is... Within TERF movements, there are people like, oh, guys, I don't know whether we're sort of being a bit nuts on this one or... Yeah, this is the thing. This is, it happens sometimes. And what happens is that the movement very quickly, like, internally, quarterizes those. And this is absolutely a thing about, like, radical, about radical groups like this is that, like, if you do express it out, you are, like, very, very quickly, like, forced back into line or forced out. Right. And so you see this happen and you see people get deradicalized this way. But just in general, in terms of the like kind of

treadmill of things getting more radical, this is something that the trans activists warned people about, including the people in both parties. Like, you hate to hand it to people, but there were trans people in the conservative party telling the conservative party that this was going to get out of control. And neither party listened. No one more or less listened. And this is the result. This is where we're at now. It's going to be that much harder to eradicate. And it becomes more conspiratorial as well, because as... If they say they want to debate and to examine the evidence and so on, but the more they

realise the evidence simply does not support their positions, the more... If they say they want to debate and to examine the evidence and so on, but the more they realize the evidence simply does not support their positions, the more they have to say, oh, well, the reason every major healthcare body in the world internationally is now condemning NHS England is because they've been infiltrated by trans activists. And the reason that every think tank who knows what the fuck they're talking about says that we're mental is because they're secretly woke or whatever. Well, Stonewall is they've all been taken over by stonewall. They've all been taken over by Stonewall. And like, and they're being funded by Jewish billionaires.

It's not that people disagree with us. It's like, you know, our opposition is secretly being bought. And eventually you arrive in a place where you're just like saying the shit like the UN is Hamas because like you've reached that same sort of point where it's like, everyone can see you're full of shit, but you have to like double down and say it's some kind of fucking conspiracy. I'll use that, in fact, to transition to our next segment. Thank you. Which is something I wanted to put first. Or is there a process that could take a few years?

Well, which is, of course, before we do a quick... We'll see if we have time for a quick article at the end. But I think it's worth talking about something I alluded to earlier, which is that the moment Kirstarmer receives, I would say, a modicum of any media coverage less than fawning, then he completely falls apart and starts looking very weak and feckless. Yeah. I mean, this is another example of things that people told the Labour Party would happen and things that the Labour Party did not listen about. So, what has happened is there are a number of by-elections for, again, you listening

in the States or outside of the UK, where Labour candidates had been secretly recorded at what was very, very strongly referred to as a community cohesion meeting last October. We again recorded those recordings given to the right wing press and then just allowed to be released like months later. Going through to like increasingly mask off Islamophobia and anti-Semite Guido forks. Yeah. Who essentially where people were at this meeting. If he wants to sue us on either of those, I have seen the tweets he posted and then deleted where he said that Labour was trading unsophisticated Muslim votes for sophisticated Jewish ones.

At this meeting were multiple prospective parliamentary candidates, including two, one called Azar Ali and one called Graham Jones. And this was all happening while mass resignations were occurring in the party regarding the stance on Gaza and so on. What first came out was Ali, a candidate in the by-election in Rochdale. It basically said that it was recorded saying Israel in a quite literal sense wanted the events of October 7th to happen so they could have a free hand in Gaza. And my understanding is that this wasn't meant in the kind of like Hamas has been official to Netanyahu politically kind of way, but more like the stupid Facebook posts conspiracy

theory kind of way. Yeah. Yeah. Like false flag shit, right? That's what he was alleging. And then this other guy, Graham Jones, was then a recording of him came out the next day again all via Guido Fox, just being frustrated with Israel, which in the States is being something Biden claims to be every day.

Yeah, calling Netanyahu an asshole. In this case, he said fucking Israel, I think. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. And then he also said that people at Britain's who go fight in the IDF should be locked up, which is, I believe, kind of the law, but kind of not based on some loopholes.

It's not, largely, because we want it not to be. Yeah. Any case. And what I think is very instructive is that both of these guys are on the right of the party. Yeah. Right? Graham Jones, especially.

I mean, Graham Jones is an interesting character. He has, let's say, very pro the Saudi bombing campaign. He's the one guy who was like pro the Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen. Yeah, the member for Riad Central, yeah. Yeah, no, he's the member for Neom North. Neom North is weirdly a Lib Dem constituents. Lib Dem's winning here. It's a very thin constituency, but a very long one. That's right.

Me, I'm Hal Am. Yeah. So, basically, right? Yeah, he's like, this is someone who's on the right of the party, right? Someone who's supported Owen Smith, right? This is... Sorry, I just remembered Owen Smith. He loves a frothy coffee.

Yeah. So, dam, simpler times. So. Damn, simple at times. So these are two guys on the right of the party. Let's look at the defenses that first come out, right? Which is, number one, the defense for Azar Ali from Nick Thomas Simmons, who's a front bencher, said, look, his comments are totally wrong. However, we should look past them as the counselor has clearly only fallen for an online conspiracy theory. Oh, okay. So he's just stupid.

Well, actually, the quote it says is, he fell for an online conspiracy theory and that does not represent his view, which is philosophically incredible that he both fell for it and doesn't believe it. He said it and also fell for it, but also that's not his view. He has perfect cognitive dissonance about it. He both believes and does not believe it. He said it and also fell for it, but also that's not his view. He has perfect cognitive dissonance about it. He both believes and does not believe it. It's clearly true, but I don't believe it. I can't believe it's not Israel. He believes it and it's true, but it's not justified.

Our candidate is just simply, is very easily tricked. He did not think he was espousing that view. He thought he was saying a magical incantation that would bring a beanstalk out of the ground. This is not a political view. And again, not to make the obvious point, which we're going to hammer home for the rest of this segment, but like people got kicked out of the party for a lot less than this. Yeah. Very recently in relation to accusations of anti-Semitism. Yeah. Yeah. This is, yeah, like Facebook likes 10 years ago.

Yeah, exactly. You know. Mm-hmm. And, you know, again, this is, they, everyone rushed to his defense until again, more leaks came out about him talking about like quote unquote, the media triple brackets. Oh, this is again, this is what the implication what he was saying. And then they're like, okay. And he goes sued for plagiarism because that was someone else's theory.

So then we, Jennifer, like, furious. So he's ripping me off. Just one anti-semi everyone else is a plagiarist. That's right. Just no original thinking. Just really lazy. No. That's right. Just no original thinkers. Just really lazy. No, no, right? And then of course he gets disassociated and so on and so on.

No. Although it's now too late for Labour to unendorse him, which is sort of hysterical because Kirstalmer is being forced to endorse him against his will. Yeah, so is he a no or not? Is he the candidate or not? Yeah, he's running as a Labour candidate. Well, Kirstalmer is both endorsing and not endorsing him. will. Yeah. So is he a no or not? Is he the candidate? He's running as a Labour candidate. Well, Kirstalmer is both endorsing and not endorsing him. And also, like, number one, I do hope he wins just so I can start really

influence. I want to own one member of Parliament with Facebook, like ad buying. That's all. Just one extremely gullible MP you can sway into sort of anything. I think we can get a full import ban on natural wine. I think we can do it. Yeah, just say that it's causing chemtrails. Yeah. But the Graham Jones, the other guy who's involved here, who again, like just was clearly very frustrated with Israel in this meeting in the last October, right?

Why would anyone be frustrated with Israel in the current climate? I don't know why. Again, we reported what he said. That's all that's been reported. Again, being like hoist by your own petard, right? Because it's something that you only have to be frustrated about privately

if you don't have the spine to be frustrated about it publicly. And so this is, but again, like he is a very, very weird guy. His own electoral history is full of... His history in parliament is mostly about getting revenge against another guy from his town who he hated. I love this. I do so love that.

It's very amusing. This guy, Peter Brickliffe, he's just like constantly gets it. Peter Brickliff was his conservative opponent and mostly they just got in like side yard disputes with one another. It's very, very amusing. Erasmus. Yeah, essentially. Like it's very, very amusing.

So, it's sort of like the in the loop thing where like you are doing like consequential matters about like foreign policy in the world, and also in a dispute about a guy's garden wall into suburbaning. This is reported in the Lancashire Telegraph, like I was just looking into this, is that when he was replaced by his ancient enemy in 2019, this guy, Britcliffe, then went to a nightclub

wearing a picture with Graham Jones' face printed on it. Like they hate each other. They were replaced by his ancient enemy, like the horned king won the by election. I mean, Lancashire elections are kind of not too far off from that, I suspect. He's a fucking Yorkshire man. They went, he went to a nightclub wearing a picture of Graham Jones' top surgery. It was a stark warning to other potential parliamentary candidates. No, like, Graham Jones has got a serious pair of Boltzmann's these days. These two guys have hated each other since 2010.

I mean, love this. It's the sort of romance of the ages. Anyway, but, so getting back to it though, right? Joe, yes, he's a weird guy. though, right? Joe. Yes, it's weird guy We're weird guy caught on a hot mic being like fucking Israel. Yeah, weird So but least weird thing. Yeah, Ed Balls then goes on TV and says let's get stand back and get some facts Graham Jones, he's not a corporate. He's not hard left. He's not anti Israel. You could all imagine saying fuck America No, right winger could ever be anti-Semitic. That's a tendency

exclusively of the left. That's interesting, because he's kind of given the game way there, isn't it? Because not Korbanite, not hard left, absolutely not anti-Israel. Like there's a kind of like non sequiturs, but you can see the sort of associative reasoning taking place. Yeah, the mean the meaning there is like not fair game for these sorts of attacks. And you've been seeing briefing from within the Labour Party that has been sort of like frustration at, you know, the Board of Deputies or the Jewish Labour Movement. I'm not sure if it is the Jewish Labour

Movement, but like against like certain Jewish organizations that have been like publicizing these and critiquing these things as evidence of anti-Semitism, being like, no, you're not supposed to do it to us, right? And sort of like taking what was an unacceptable line under Corbyn of, this is clearly pure factionalism, is completely baseless and exists only to kind of discredit the Labour Party. And I simply go, interesting, when did that come in? You know, when did that start being a thing that it was possible to say, you know? Seems like you've constructed this incredible patad here. Yeah, nice patad.

This is you've made this very nice bed. And yet you find yourself increasingly reluctant to lie in it. As it being hoisted, you might look down and notice that this patard is hauntingly familiar. My God. Now, my own patard. And you come back and yet now the demand is, well, everybody at this meeting should be suspended and investigated. Yeah, because it's running out of control again, because you've had this kind of factional weapon that bears very little overlap with real antisemitism, catches some of it and

catches a lot of other stuff, including more or less any criticism of Israel, however, Wingnut or however, evidence-based. And yeah, now it's simply rolling through the labor party going, okay, well, anybody who even dares to critique Israel or the IDF, all Zionism as an ideology is inherently anti-Semitic and has to go. And it's only a matter of time until they find something Starmer's said in the past, and that's going to be a funny moment. Well, this is what Jewish left-wing activists have warned about as well. Like there's a fantastic activist called April Rosenblum, who wrote a pamphlet called The Past Didn't Go Anywhere, where she actually talks about what are constructive ways to criticize the actions of the Israeli government and what

are ways that do give cover to anti-Semites. Because there are some people who are just really anti-Semitic, who will host a meeting and the meeting is called free speech on Israel, and then you turn up and you're like, oh, everyone's doing Hitler's rights. That sort of thing does fucking happen. There is anti-Semitism on the left, genuinely. Not only just Nazis using it for cover, but also there are people who are left-wing genuinely, and who are also genuinely anti-Semitic. But then what April Rosenblum cautions is that the effect of this situation is that it becomes impossible to

criticize or even really talk accurately about what the Israeli government are really doing. What Rosenblum, if you're interested to know, what she recommends is just being as specific as possible. So rather than, for instance, an example of a bad way of doing it would be to say, like, oh, Israel are controlling the US government, right? That's like very clearly bad anti-Semitism territory there. More specific would be to say like, APAC gives this amount of money to these politicians to support these policies, which I disagree with. Like the more specific you can be, she says, as a Jewish left-wing activist, then the more helpful and constructive the conversation becomes.

Name and CLP please, Abby. None! Proudly! Anyway, Abby. No, I'm proudly. Anyway, anyway. To bring this back around, of course, to Starmor before we sort of finish off, is that what he has done at every stage of this is he has allowed himself, he has allowed selectively ... He's tolerated two instances of heinous anti-Semitism, and yet he refuses to apologize, and so he simply must resign.

And he minimized them as well. Yeah. Briefing against them. It's time to go. It's simply unacceptable in this day and age for a leader of the Labour Party to traffic in such sort of reprehensible racism, you know? What he of course did was he allowed himself to be basically just bounced into seemingly random reactions to just like selective leaks to the right wing press. Which of course will never happen when

he's in government ever. That will never happen again. It's just the begging thing again. You know, it's just like please. He drank from the puddle. Yeah. He looked at the right wing press, right? He looked at these, again, leaks which were I get recorded months ago but just released now, right? And clearly released one after the other. Yeah, kept in stock, you know, so like drip food these out. The key takeaway from this whole solid debacle

is that I'm not gay. I think I've read that very clear in all of my statements upon this matter. And I think I consider it now closed. Well, look, drinking from the puddle is actually a really good demonstration of what children can do when they're banned from buying energy drinks. True.

Yeah. I have a question. Eddie, there's no caffeine in the puddle. If this was recorded months ago, why has it only come out now? It's a genuine question. A cynical leverage of it for political expedience. But what does it get the people leaking it to do that now? Well, labor is popular now, basically.

Yeah. It's in the rainy day fund. Like any sort of like... Yeah, transferring audio is also really hard. Yeah, they had a bunch of attempts. No, what it is is that like any sort of like political operator of this caliber has a filing cabinet full of stuff to just drop as needed. And this is in the like the rainy day file for you need to like sort of throw a grenade into the labor camp. There's a huge draw with a padlock on it that says, Keer Starmer tasteful nudes, which they've not even cracked open yet.

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Maybe. No, it's not the same as outside. It is outside. It's not a tent. It's... I'm just going to end this little Socratic dialogue. A tent is still inside. It's just, I agree that it's not as well. It's- I'm just gonna end this little Socratic dialogue. A tent is still inside. It's just, I agree that it's not as well insulated as conventional building.

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