TRASHFUTURE - *PREVIEW* Against Woke Henry Hoover: TF Live in Glasgow 22/5/23

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

For the last stop of our Regional Authenticity Tour, we performed live at Slay in Glasgow and completed our review of one of the worst books ever written. We also discuss a dismal-sounding 'what if your doctor was an app' startup, and hear a story about a deranged British aristocrat who brought our her ancestral machete to settle a crypto dispute. We simply had a blast, and we hope you enjoy hearing it.   Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/against-woke-tf-84930927   *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows and check out a recording of Milo’s special PINDOS available on YouTube here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRI7uwTPJtg *ROME ALERT* Milo and Phoebe have teamed up with friend of the show Patrick Wyman to finally put their classical education to good use and discuss every episode of season 1 of Rome. You can download the 12 episode series from Bandcamp here (1st episode is free): https://romepodcast.bandcamp.com/album/rome-season-1 Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

if you really want to understand this this is uh... he he wrote a column in uh... some right wing press uh... and he said speak to this is today said speak to anybody in britain's ruling class these days and within minutes they'll tell you the country's problems are all because of one thing brexit and i don't know who he means by ruling class because

everyone in charge of anything including the labor party seems pretty committed to it. Well, yeah, I mean, even if people will say, even if you get people that I would say are actually classified as the sort of elite power brokers in this country to admit that they would probably just say, because we didn't do it hard enough. You just didn't believe enough in it. And it's like, ah, there's probably other causes here too,

but no, no, the ruling class, the barista, I mean, I didn't need a book on TV, I don't know, I don't know anything, but like, so good one, right. The word virtue refers to being morally good or righteous, always good to open up a chapter with Webster's Dictionary. Fantastic style. Right, I know it's a retread,

but you have to use the fake Napoleon quote, he got fooled by brainyquote.com. That's the level of brain power operating on here. You know, sometimes like people taking a piss out of this kind of an opener will be like, did this man swallow a dictionary? Well, in Matthew Goodwin's game. Uh, centuries ago thinkers such as Aristotle saw, I know, you should grow and it's stupid. Centuries is cooking it pretty lightly for Aristotle to go to the centuries ago.

Centuries ago when the people buying this book were born. Yeah. Centuries ago thinkers such as no one's buying this book except me. Because we couldn't find a torrent of we couldn't find a free ebook no one actually wants this book. Not that we've ever torrented. Except our show to make content. So centuries ago, thinkers such as Aristotle, that's that line's gonna live in my head for a while. Saw politics not just as a way of organizing society,

but as a means through which people can lead a virtuous life, acquiring things such as character. You're fucking video game-ass dialogue. A second acquire thing such as character points. A sense of honor, I guess like a quest item. Feelings of moral worth and respect from others. Again, of course, I've achieved to the shogun. But today, amid the rise of the new elite, which by the way is us and you and the people working at this venue, many people feel the exact opposite. Many people such as distinguished professors of politics at Kent University, whose students keep making fun of their ridiculous ears and their intensity to eat books.

They have not only been silenced by the New Elite and you can tell because he has a call of every other day in nature newspapers, but also stigmatized as being a morally inferior underclass. So if you are living in a bidolet, remember that you are the elite and your landlord is the underclass because you are aware of pronouns. Dr. Lee's, Dr. Lee's hold is working class. Yeah, Dr. Lee's, Dr. Lee's hold is working class. LAUGHTER And it's all part of my cunning plan, Mr. Barnes. Sooner or later, you'll be the elite. LAUGHTER

He just puts on a flat cap and he's like, you're never gonna work. We tried to buy flat caps for the regional authenticity tour. We actually did, but the only... You tried to find them, we couldn't. The only place we found that wasn't central often. And you're being sold by this Turkish guy who would go below 35 pounds each.

So like a bit rich for our expense account, unfortunately. But the guy's got like an odd job, henchman, but he's just throwing a flat cap. Dr. Lee's hold is going to stick in my head for a while. At the top of the hierarchy, as we will see, are the highly educated new elite, who have the right degrees and the right of universities, and the elite beliefs to feel valuable and virtuous.

At the bottom, by contrast, are people from the white working class, non-graduate majority, and older people. The older part of the underclass because they don't understand blue hair. I have the right way for the right. People understand blue hair really well actually. It's just, it offense Matthew Goodwin in a way

that I can't really explain here. Or whose identities as straight white men leads them feelings that they're no longer treated with as much respect as other groups in society. It wasn't always this way, it says Goodwin. It used to be that having a... Yeah, that's the other way. How did it used to be?

We don't... Of course, asking not how it used to be for these people who are apparently on top of the hierarchy... People used to respect their landlords. He says, it used to be that hereditary being a hereditary elite was a market status, like being an aristocrat. Then it was what job you did. But now, one of the main markers of status is whether you belong to the new elite, which is... Could a lot of it be easy?

Could a lot of it be easy? You're right to ask a question about that. It's hang on, we've empty-chaired Matt. Matt, you want to comment on that topology? I mean, I feel like that if you programmed that, you just typed that sentence into Hippocratic AI, it would fucking blue screen immediately. Like, but he says it used to be determined by what job you did, but the way it defines the newly,

it's just a list of what jobs they do. Oh yeah, the jobs where architects was the first one. Doctors, that is a person who'll beef. You can really tell, like, my goodwin has a fucked up extension on his house. And he is fuming. He's had cowboy builders in and he's not happy about it. So it mocked his bow tie.

It's architects, journalists, think tankers for some reason. And then like, you know, civil servants, obviously, and other like professionals. Professionals, yeah. Podcasters as well. No, podcasters aren't just new elite, they're hyper progressives. And also, it's a later on in this chapter though, he says.

But progressives are the progressives who wear really baggy clothes. Says, in reality, many people have only joined the New Elite because they benefited from inbuilt advantages that they didn't earn and that weren't available to others, such as they're an artist. That's crazy, that's so different from the old elite. Yeah.

Such as their cognitive ability, privileged families, social networks that come with these families, and education system that's long been rigged to favor the children of the New Elite or their sheer luck, that's cognitive ability. Yeah. Oh, these fucking small people with that success. Also, it's like, listen to this phrase. An education system so far so good, you follow in me?

That has long, remember the word long, been rigged to favor the children of the New Elite. It has long been favored, been structured to favor the children of the new elite. It has long been favored, been structured to favor the children of the new elite. That makes no fucking sense. Well, they like you in the way that like new college Oxford is new. That kind of an old new.

And also, this is from later in the chapter, and it's all about how he sees virtue, quote unquote, as being unevenly distributed. Beyond, by the way, that Aristotle thing, it's never defined, it's just feeling good about yourself. Labor and other institutions that are dominated by the new elite increasingly come to see British society

in a way that directs favor, status, and protection, shock horror, to non-white minorities, women, homosexuals, muslims, and immigrants while considering white men heterosexuals, Christians, and especially the English and distinctly unfavorable terms. LAUGHTER CHEERING All right, first applause break of the night goes to, unfortunately, Matthew Goodwin.

It's just anti-English racism, that's what it is. LAUGHTER I'm not English, I can fucking hate as much as you want. I don't care. I like it. I am going to have to object to drawing at such a firm distinction between homosexuals and the English.

I think there's quite a story tradition of being both. Favourite groups receive protection against criticism and negativity, but unfavoured groups receive no such protection, leaving them open to disparagement. I feel like he's again talking about himself. He is quoting someone else there, but it does feel like he's talking about himself. Also, it's like, okay, so it's just the old elite.

Sighting David Goodehart, the guy, another of these idiots that's always in the paper, he writes, in the last two decades, it is sometimes felt as if an enormous social vacuum cleaner has sucked up the status from manual occupations. The Woke Henry Hoover. This feels like fetish stuff again. Oh, my virtue's being sucked up by the woke Hoover.

Or it could suck the Chrome off a tailpipe. It is felt as if an enormous social vacuum cleaner has sucked up the status from manual occupations and reallocated it to middleing in a higher cognitive profession. I just have a vacuum works. Reallocated for the dust. Yeah, that's right.

Oh, into the big bag that already has lots of dust. From the poor little carpet, it's just like, oh, just a little bit of dust for me. And the hoover's like, no, this is for the gays. I'm putting it in my big gay dust bag. And I'm taking it right down to the Indian and black gay building. Well, none of you were allowed just for being English. But also, it's like, wait, hold on. You're saying some magic process has just magically taken the status from manual occupations. Which I guess, in the 1800ss were like factory workers conceived of as being

particularly high status. But also he said in the last two decades, he's implying that free 2003, Henry Hoover hadn't come out of the closet yet and was racist and something changed. Don't worry about it.