TRASHFUTURE - PREVIEW: Britainology 69 - 35 Up

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

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Yeah, it was very, there were also some like very like funny moments in this, which we'll get to as we go through it. But yeah, as ever, you know, Tony, we stand, he's there, he's plugging away, getting richer with every single iteration of this documentary. Yeah, he is. He's living in N1 now, I guess, because that's the postcode I saw in one of the cars. Like, there's a little stamp, they're like a parking pass in one of the cars. Okay. Yeah, which is what?

That's Islington, isn't it? Yeah, is like N1 is like Angel. It's said it's Angel Connubry, where he lives, but then I definitely saw some, and it was like N1 cab cup and you're some bullshit, but like it looked like that's about where he was living. So they'd not moved out of the city yet, okay, yeah. Cause he eventually won some in Essex,

but yeah, he's, and so Tony and his wife basically do, they both drive the cab now now and she does day shift, he does night shift. Yeah, yeah. This is very funny. They're doing like Victorian style like shift. They have one cab. She drives it in the morning.

He drives it in the evening. A very cunning move. They have three children now. They have a 13 year old son and two little girls who look like they're probably about like maybe like five and two or five and three. And all those not seem well with their marriage, but like not in the way that I feel like it wasn't necessarily framed. When we talk about Nick,

remember Nick and his wife, it was really framed in an oppositional way. And Michael Aptitz seemed like he was trying to provoke them in 28 up. Yeah, which was weird. It was where they didn't seem like they were having an argument at all. And he was trying to like create an argument. He was trying to get the guy from New Yorkshire to argue with his wife about what a woman's place is. It reminded me a lot of, you know, that bit in the day to day,

whether guy provokes a war between Australia and Hong Kong by me. I don't, but tell me about it. It's like Chris Morris and he's, the subject of, like, because everything on the day's day was obviously insane. And then, like, the concept was that Australia and Hong Kong had just agreed a trade deal. And then he gets, like like the British High Commissioner in Hong Kong on the call and then like the Prime Minister or the Foreign Minister of Australia or something.

And they're talking about it. And he's like, and he's like, and what would you say if Hong Kong would go back on this on this term of the agreement and he's like, well, we wouldn't like that very much at all. And he's like, and what would and what in the sense of Hong Kong going, he's like, well, what would you say to that? And he's like, well, we wouldn't like that very much at all. And he's like, and what would, and what, and he turns to Hong Kong guy and he's like, well, what would you say to that? And he's like, well, I don't think that's what has happened. But we certainly, well, we certainly have to take action. And he's, and then he goes, I think, and what do you make of this? And he's like, well, I don't like the tone that he's taking. And then he basically, and then by the end of the interview, the Australia and Hong Kong are at war. And

he's like, it's war. And then everything in the studio rotates. Right, yeah. But just seeing that. I have seen that. Yeah, just provoking a conflict where there is none. That was sort of my collapse, it's vibe. Whereas with Tony and his wife, it seems more like he in a roundabout way kind of admits to fucking around

when he's in Spain on the lads holiday. Is that the vibe you got? He's like, you're tempted. And you always say, oh, I know what you were he's in Spain on the Lads holiday. Over. Is that the vibe you got? He's like, you're tempted and you always say, oh, I know what you were up to in Spain. He's like, but you know, you just don't admit it. And I'm like, phrasing it that way. It's kind of like, it sounds like he's giving an interview that's going to be off the record, but his wife is literally in front of him like she's on camera. Yeah, there's this kind of, I don't know, the old school geyser energy of the kind of like

Hinoeval, Cinoeval, you know, you like look, what happens with me on the live stream in Spain, as long as I'm back on Monday and I'm behaving myself with you and the kids, that's all you need tonight. I mean, Britain in terms of some of the problems that has had with a lot of situations that we don't have to go into too great of detail about seems to have operated on a here no evil speak no evil basis. Oh yeah. When you think about stuff like general cultures of abuse and exploitation, whether it's in

boarding schools or fucking where pick your thing. BBC television. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, shows involving disc jockeys, some of which some of whom may have worn short shorts on a regular basis. I don't know. I just wanted to be a regular jockey. I didn't realize that they're not kids. They're just little gazes. John Peel, it wasn't anything in the same fucking universe as Jimmy Savile, but John Peel apparently after his death, it was like a similar thing. People came forward and like, oh yeah, like he was known to like,

go after the like 16 year old interns and shit like that or like, you know, he had a culture of John Peel being kind of like a creep, which I don't know because of how it works here. If that would have been legally actionable, but it's one of those things like after the fact, you're like, oh, this guy also was taking advantage. Yeah, I don't know much about it. And the way it came out, I remember being a bit more complicated because I think like Jimmy Savile for better or for worse was always one of those figures where a lot of people had thought like, surely that guy's a bit ever wrong

and because of his overall vibe. Whereas I think John Peel was someone who was like kind of a bit more beloved. Yeah, he was kind of like the record collector and a rac guy, people love to. Like as he is kind of like, as he brought soak guy people love to like as he is kind of like because he brought so many like cool bands to prominent and stuff like that live sets that he would record on a show were amazing like they did a really good job of Basically doing live in studio music. Yeah, and and from what I understand

But I'm not sure I think it challenges what you said, which is like the allegations were more of the tone of is what you said, which is like the allegations were more of the tone of being being a bit of a creep and like kind of, but not not necessarily like or certainly not on the order of Jimmy Savald. And what Savald did was so unconscionably awful that it's hard to compare much to it. And to paraphrase Pierre Navelli when he we talked about it years ago, he was talking about Michael Jackson, but Jimmy Savald was the same. It was as if he would like lost a dare and basically had to go around being like, how can I make it as

obvious as possible that I am an host? Yes, I am an host after to communicate to people that he is a pedophile without using the word pedophile. And then there's like, you know, people are going, well, he's got a whole fun fair in his back garden. That's pretty weird. And he's going, yes, I must be a lovable eccentric. That's right. And so, yeah, I, jockies, just jockies, look, bring it back to Tony. Yeah, I, I know because I've read ahead that, uh, that it's later revealed that he, I mean, he and his wife stay married, but that he had cheated on her. Right. And I think they talk about this in later installments.

Right. Okay. But that it was around certainly like whatever it was that provoked the most amount of stress in their marriage was around the time of 28 up. But they, they stay together. But yeah, I, I, I did notice that it seemed very strange to me to be saying that in front of her. Like, you know, it's like, I don't know if you remember. This is based on a true story,

and I think this might be a line of verbatim line, but there's a movie called 54, and it's about the famous disco studio 54 in New York City. And I can't remember the operator's name, the guy who owned it, but he famously went on like a late night TV show, and the guy, the host asked him, how much are you guys clearing? How much you guys make in a week?

And he leaned over and talked to the host and whispered in his ear, and then the guy was like, really? He's like, God damn. And then the guy's like, well, you know, what the IRS doesn't know won't hurt them. He said this on fucking national TV. So what he said, the IRS didn't order. Audited his ass. And yeah, I mean, it all kind of tumbled down from there.

And he was like, I believe was like mega on cocaine. I love being that dumb. It's such a fun, like, yeah, just threaten the IRS on camera. Why not? The famously most merciless arm of the American state. Yeah, I was gonna say the one who's like direct action strike force I'm the most scared of not cuz I have anything to hide because I know those guys are probably the real shooters like They absolutely know how to fucking do a dynamic breach. Yeah, the IRS what team? I was just I was just taking a back yet by by they're gonna get they're not gonna kill your dog

You could write that off against your tax bill That's how you defeat qualified immunity is basically you make you make them have to all the fucking I'm gonna impound your dog and charge you for the upkeep. Yeah, but I was gonna say I'm not gonna make that joke because like I'm sure that's been done that even if there are damages paid out Like that's just like that's just like kids don't have erasers on their pencils in Chicago public schools because they just have to dump all this money into like the settlements for fucking police brutality and shit. So actually, like, it's not even a joke. Um, yeah, Tony, Tony is interesting. Like he's doing bit part extra work as an actor. He hasn't yet gotten to the point where

we know that later on he'll be doing like little bit parts on soap operas as like cab driver. But he says his life's turned out really well. And when he said he's like, Michael opted kind of kind of challenged us him and says, like, you know, he's like everything I set up to do I did, I was able to do. And he's like, well, you didn't really, I mean, you weren't able to be a jockey professionally,

you weren't able to make it and show business. And he was like, yeah, but, you know, better to be a husband than I never was. And it's like, it's kind of a fucked up thing to say in a way for apt to say that because it's like, yeah, well, he, better to be a husband than a never was. And it's like, it's kind of a fucked up thing to say in a way for Apta to say that because it's like, yeah. He quit being a jockey because he made the assessment that he wasn't gonna be good enough at it to be successful. And after having done it,

done the thing like where he raced in a professional race with like legends of the fucking discipline. He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna be able to do this at that level as a job. So I'm going to do something else. He became a cab driver, successful with that. He is doing acting and taking acting classes,

but obviously he's not getting to that level yet, but he's still doing it. So he's kind of weird for me, you're not a fucking film star. It's like, well, my uncle answered is so funny. He's such a bitch. He's so kind to you. He loves it.

He's like, you can imagine they're like filing his nails like, well, you're not much of an actor.