TRASHFUTURE - *PREVIEW* Dr. Robotnik’s Wild Ride feat. This Machine Kills
Episode Date: June 16, 2023Jathan and Ed from This Machine Kills (@machinekillspod) join the gang to discuss the long, terrible essay by Marc Andreesen about why AI will save the world. Part of his argument is that Marx was wr...ong because Elon Musk SELLS cars rather than hoarding them for himself. It's... well, it's something? Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dr-robotniks-84608248 *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows and check out a recording of Milo’s special PINDOS available on YouTube here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRI7uwTPJtg *ROME ALERT* Milo and Phoebe have teamed up with friend of the show Patrick Wyman to finally put their classical education to good use and discuss every episode of season 1 of Rome. You can download the 12 episode series from Bandcamp here (1st episode is free): https://romepodcast.bandcamp.com/album/rome-season-1 Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)
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Well, have you considered the following counter argument offered by Andreson?
The classic example of this is Elon Musk's master plan, which he naturally published openly for Tesla in 2006.
Step 1. Build an expensive sports car. Step 2. Use that money to build an affordable car. Step 3. Use that money to build an even more affordable car. Step 2. He hasn't done step 2. He's on Step 1 for the fifth time. He got distracted, building expensive sports cars
and getting red-pilled by guys on Twitter
who got some Coke money to fucking do targeted
influence operations and red-pill him.
And now he's liking tweets about the Jewish question.
This shit doesn't trickle down
and Elon Musk is proof of it.
He spent a shitload of money on Twitter, brain is that broken instead of like when it when is the Tesla model like tea
When is the Tesla that like normal people instead of people who drew like web comics that got big in 2009
Can buy there isn't one and the reason why there isn't one is because this shit doesn't happen
They all become these weird insular freaks who start shaving bits off their own skulls to try and make them point you
So it says he says the last point is key would Elon be even richer if he only sold cars to rich people
That's what he does, but would he even richer than if he only made cars for himself?
Of course, I think he should do this. I think Elon Musk should genuinely continue making every Tesla, but just for him.
He's doing like doughnuts in the parking lot of the
East.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger.
We're actually making a hunger. We're actually making a hunger. We're actually making a hunger. We're actually making a hunger. We're actually making a hunger. Africans have done before him and moved to Perth and become a hoon.
Hoonin and Goonin, Mr Perth, what?
That's right. That's all science.
In short, everyone gets the thing as we saw in the past with not just cars, but also like
crystal, radio, mark, mark, mark, mark.
Your net worth is $1.7 billion.
How can you say that everyone gets the thing? Where's my share of the $1.7 billion. How can you say that everyone gets the thing? Where's my share
of the $1.7 billion, Mark? Well, no, money's not a technology, Alice. You don't get
to share that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You have a lot of air stuff like ball openers. You have
electricity, which you just get. Yeah. You just get it. Right. It's free. It's free.
But two and three cents credit. I don't think I've ever seen the existence of a consumer mass market used as such doing like such conceptual heavy lifting before
it's it's really wild to see. I mean, I guess nobody's ever been brave enough to take the
existence of this thing and be like, look, it just proves any critics of the thing.
Yeah, that's why he's a shape rotator, you know, he's not one of those words that
worships. Yeah. So, so, so, you say that there's a shape rotator, you know, he's not one of those words cells that worships. Yeah.
So so you say that there's inequality because the man who invented the toilet
go very rich and yet you're tweeting this from the toilet right now.
Here is.
So what happens is that so you might say, well, why is well so centralized?
Then if we've invented all of this stuff and as we invent stuff,
gets more centralized.
So what is happening is the opposite of technology
driving the centralization of well.
So he says it's decentralizing.
His individual customers of technology
are empowered to capture most of the generated value.
So you get the value of using the phone
and then Tim Apple gets to have a yacht on the moon.
Wait, yeah, remind me which computer
on earth has the largest cash reserves?
So Tim Apple is a kind of like phones kool-uck, right? remind me which computer has the largest cash reserves.
So Tim Apple is a kind of like phones kool-uck, right? He's like hoarding.
He's like not a tech guy.
He's like a not tech guy, a prevention of access to tech guy,
which is not enough to me.
Sorry, you missed by me.
Tim Apple by inventing the phone has allowed people to capture the value of the phone.
Oh, okay.
So I thought he was making a cogent point,
but instead he isn't.
Yeah.
He says, inequality is an issue in our society,
but it's being driven by the reverse of technology,
by the sectors of the economy,
are the most resistant to new technology
that have the most government intervention
to prevent the new adoption of AI,
specifically housing education and healthcare.
The actual risk is not that AI will cause more inequality,
but rather that we will not allow AI
to reduce inequality.
So it's kind of a little bit.
If I'm a landlord was a computer,
it wouldn't charge me as much, probably.
Is that sufficient?
That is your rent is late.
And may I just remind you that I am not a pedophile,
I have been programmed.
And recent contention here is that touching my leg.
You're over a jealous.
There's nothing in my programming to stop me.
Do you want to pay with money or is there some other way?
Feel so uncomfortable.
So the contention here is that existing like governments and healthcare sector education
and stuff, it's resistant to having itself disrupted because they are all like a federal. I think that's the heavy implication. If we had bizarre, then we would all have the AI.
Did he write a dumbass I say about how AI is actually illegal in most of the economy?
Yes, he did.
Just like mixed use neighborhoods.
I mean, we sort of skipped over a profoundly hitler particle bit earlier on.
In risk to all the way back up there, where he's like, is AI
going to ruin society? Where he talks about the freedom of speech the
AI is going to deliver. He says, if you don't agree with the prevailing niche morality
that is being imposed on social media and AI via ever intensifying speech codes, you
should also realize that the fight over what AI is allowed to say will be even more
important than the fight over social media censorship.
Even more important than that?
Even more important than that.
You should be aware of how a small and isolated coterie of partisan social engineers are
trying to determine that right now, undercover of the age-old
claim that they are protecting you. And at this point, the Hitler particles, they're pretty
fucking intense, right? Like, this is an inish morality being socially engineered by a small
cabal of partisans. Has Mark Andrew Andreessen recently visited a national trust property and handled some of the silverware?
I'm really into the speech codes bit because what he's saying, what he's actually saying,
is I want an AI that will say the word.
Right, right.
Right.
There's just like, it's a map from class of civilizations and it's just like, which civilization will let
us AI say the word?
Which one?
Yeah.
We've made it.
We've made a black AI so it can say the word.
Not fair.
That's an Africa.
The AI can say the word but in America.
How can AIMF do?
Wrap the word.
I'm pretty certain that the Chinese AI is not going to be racist. I am a doomswrap the world
I'm pretty certain I'm pretty certain that the Chinese AI is not gonna be racist I haven't investigated anything about the Chinese government. I'm pretty certain
Mr. President, I'm afraid doom is B
Mr. President, I'm afraid doom has become more racist than we can possibly
This is how we're afraid, dude, we've become more race than we can possibly am.
We can stop him.
He's onto stuff about the Portuguese.
This is the second risk, which is essentially,
as you say, I was right, that the risk is that,
so people think, I will ruin society with misinformation.
And he says, yes, yes, it's important to prevent all of that,
but mostly we have to make sure that it can say the word or
Again as you as you have prefigured the conclusion here
Ed you didn't just pull or else the Chinese will let it say the word out of thin air
It's basically the conclusion here is that if we don't do all of this as fast as possible without any regard for the consequences
We just have have to have faith that it will be God and then
Then we can beat the Chinese to building their God.
The way he raises this is so perfect though.
Let me just read it, right?
Because the sub-hether is the actual risk
of not pursuing AI with maximum force and speed.
There is one final and real AI risk
that's probably the scariest of all.
AI isn't just being developed in the relatively free societies of the West.
It is also being developed by the Communist Party of the People's Republic of China.
Oh, I wish you were a joke.
Yeah, I love it when they write it out in full like that.
It's so good.
But you have to pursue it with maximum force and speed.
I need to do my AI with maximum force and speed.
This is crank.
Fucking Jason State.
Yeah, first of all, first of all, it's going to be word tourism.
That's the real danger of the 21st century.
You know.
Sorry.
No.