TRASHFUTURE - *PREVIEW* His Majesty’s Nectar Points Balance: TF Live in Leeds 15/5/23

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

The entire cast of Riley, Milo, Hussein, Nate, and Alice continued our Regional Authenticity Tour with a stop in Leeds, where we discussed a startup offering what appears to be a hypothetical alternative to the labour theory of value...with loyalty points. We also discussed the second part of a new book by Britain's most storied bibliophage. Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/his-majestys-tf-83848390 *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows and check out a recording of Milo’s special PINDOS available on YouTube here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRI7uwTPJtg *ROME ALERT* Milo and Phoebe have teamed up with friend of the show Patrick Wyman to finally put their classical education to good use and discuss every episode of season 1 of Rome. You can download the 12 episode series from Bandcamp here (1st episode is free): https://romepodcast.bandcamp.com/album/rome-season-1 Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

Are we ready to get into probably the most offensive startup I've found? Ooh. You promise highly, Ryan. It's called N-word. Yeah, it's a service that lets conservatives say the word. It's like a soundproof room. Oh, yeah. So, the startup is called salt.

Salt, like the Angelina Jolie movie or the common table substance. I would have said the table substance first, but okay. I think about Angelina Jolie a lot. Okay, well, it's called salt, it has nothing to do with Angelina Jolie or the common table substance. Okay.

All right, we're auditioning for a fifth cast. Do they, do they, do they, do they turn you into it if you look back at Gamora? No, it is not biblical. Right. No. Alex, you sticking with your Angelina Jolie. Yeah, that's, that's my full answer. It's the Angelina Jolie spy movie, Salt.

Very offensive. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it wasn't good. I'll say that. Who's saying? It's called Salt. It's called Salt. OK, so here's my idea.

Salt, salt the earth. You're making stuff like unable to grow. So it's a service that deletes all your bad posts and makes sure that your digital footprint is not, like it kills your digital footprint. And it would have to make you unable to ever post again. No. I get cut off your posting fingers.

That would probably be a good idea, which is why I know it's not bad. Yeah, the stars are the candles, you know? That's why it's offensive. It's like, post an algorithmically determined, most offensive thing you could post, then delete till you're other post and then lock you out of your office. Alternatively, I'll turn it over to in relation to posts.

It's like when you add a bit of salt to something, it can make it taste a bit better. It makes your posts just a little bit better. Like a punch up. Yeah, like just a little bit, not too much. Like a group chat service. Group chat is a service. It gets you like the five likes that you really want.

Oh, yeah. We all know the ones. Unfortunately, no. That would be marginally less offensive than this. Nate, it's called salt. It's a wearable tech that helps you cry more efficiently by analyzing the salt in your tears. So what I have also done is I have captured it. They put it out. It was a YouTube

video that they made to describe their mission and what they do. And I've decided to share that with you. So we're going to play it. And then I would ask my co-hosts here to when they want to make a comment on what's happening in this clip, just stop it and then say your piece I mean, I don't think you will because it's totally reasonable not horrifyingly offensive and definitely a great idea that's got a lot of likes Circle time like in school. All right. We'll be we'll be start rolling it roll it roll it Riley The desire for ownership is something that every human on this earth shares

each of us has this intrinsic aspiration to own the outcome of our efforts. For some, that might mean buying a house one day after years of working. For others, it might mean starting and building a business and seeing first hand the results of our work. But for so many of us in the workforce, our work is just basically so far into something of longer-term value. We labor, we toil, we fight, and yet somehow, at the end of the day, somehow barely have enough to get out of here.

Somehow, who? How? Is this just, yeah, somehow. That's weird. That's weird. Does anyone know what's going on with that? Who? Who? How? Is this just, yeah, somehow. That's weird. That's weird. Does anyone know what's going on with that? I've always, I've always, have any of you recorded podcasts about what's going on

over the course of the past like a few years that we can listen to? The local moms with their one weird trick. Oh, fuck. I tell them, they're making $500 a week. I knew I was being owned by the local moms. Mm. And in the local moms. In the wrong way.

Yes. I mean, depending what you're into. Please continue. Can it be that we work this hard to never achieve long-term ownership of anything? Introducing Salt, a first of its kind rewards program for the modern workforce. I've never been rewarded in this way like the Sainsbury Nectica. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but crucially instead of getting paid as much. And so it's for a house.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it gives you the little experiences, little achievements, days out, things of this nature. Oh, I should pay for this outside. Yeah, I got it on point tonight. Okay, it was over that. Yeah, we're tripped for four to four hours. Can I do one more little guess? Please, please. So it's sort of like you're sort of like in a video game

where you sort of get little credits and treats and those things then translate to like, oh, you worked for like eight hours, so here's like one pepper. But you could also give away that, but you could always like sacrifice that pepper and play like a new game. And maybe you might get an egg or like...

You have... What games do you play? I'm not a gamer, I just... So this is what I assume, this is how I assume it. I just... You know what? I am not a gamer, think is funny brain equal.com I was I was recently introduced to a there's a Ukrainian television show

Where they get people on my dance square to sing karaoke and the top prize is a car But if you don't win the car the other prize you can win is a box of eggs Also who's saying the game you've described is shopping list, essentially. You have also pretty accurately described the business model, but what we haven't gotten to is how they intend this to solve the problem of generational inequality with nectar points. Yeah, I keep wondering about the rewards points aspect of this. This is going to be like, if you don't go to the bathroom while it Work you get one point and that accrues over the course of your career and then you can buy something

Generationally so you can give your children your neck no no no generation of this family has ever pissed on the job He died as he lived full of piss Expanding like a balloon By the time he died he looked like a puff of fish died as he lived full of piss. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I'm in the ass, I'm in the hood, you future. Think of it like frequent flyer miles or reward points at a coffee shop. Only in this case, you earn them for the hours you work at any job. And it's all free for workers. We, uh, is that a logical stopping point for the insane thing we just heard?

Do you want to keep going? That's, that's good enough. So their copy says, it's the app that turns the hours you work into more than a paycheck, a modern rewards program built for the modern day worker that allows you to finally capture the true value of your work. Marks could never. Marks failed to anticipate nectar points, but that you can inherit.

There's a tendency of the race of nectar points to go up, I assume. Oh, we've still got about 40 seconds on this. I'll just keep it rolling. I'll just keep it rolling. There's a tendency of the race of nectar points to go up, I assume. Oh, we've still got about 40 seconds on this. Us keep rolling. Let's keep it rolling. Let's keep it rolling. Big plans for Salt. But for today, we're starting simple.

Download the app. Earn Salt as you work. Share it with friends. Redeem for an experience. Over time, I have the experiences on here. They're very funny, though. The way you build long-term ownership and generational wealth. Yeah.

Generational wealth of nectar points. I have never found, and more insultingly, and offensively stupid, like... I don't think you could even inherit nectar points. I sort of, like, I know someone who's, like, grandma passed away, like, a couple years ago. And she did ask, like, and she did ask, like like can I take the nectar points and they said no because it was yeah Basically if you die with it a surplus balance of nectar points in Britain

Then they just accrue to the Duke of Windsor Well, he said that like her grandma did the shopping and not her so she did to serve to have it was very weird not her, so she did deserve to have. It was very weird experience. And of course, the only negative point is they're all to do that. So, you know, I've taken Camilla to Jez's in World of Adventures 14 times. Last time we got thrown out of the fucking on the Big Dipper. So, that is their innovation, is what? Oh, honey prince Charles.

That's one of the things you child Experience if you get enough salt Innovation is wound about my wife's no rings seat belts That's what you buy the ticket for yeah, none of us will be funny on that tonight. That's the high point. All right, can I do everyone? No, no. So, it's nectar points you can inherit. That's their innovation is what if you can inherit nectar points.

But what if I show? I smell they're out of nectar, God, and His Father's a boy. Also, it's not nectar points. It's salt, which is different. It's a different points program that doesn't give you as much. points, it's salt, which is different. It's a different points program that doesn't give you as much.