TRASHFUTURE - PREVIEW: Joe Biden Doesn’t Know Where He Is Right Now

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

Riley is away, so Alice, Milo, and Hussein run the asylum by themselves. They gave themselves all depression, found out why we’re all going to get turned into paper clips, and explored the mind palace of one Joseph R Biden in a special American reading. If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture Medical Aid for Palestinians: www.map.org.uk *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

I think what it behooves us to talk about is what it's been like in the UK, where we had some massive demonstrations, huge huge one, London, which was, I think the Palestine solidarity campaign said it was like 500,000 and the Met Police said, you know, we never learned to count above 20, so 20 I guess. Which actually I believe, whether Met Police is concerned, look, that is not one of the skill sets that's letting you into the man. That's true. So it's like one to many lots, you know, under 10,000.

A plethora of gentlemen. A plethora of gentlemen of all ages, races, colors and crates, marched through Central London. And this was quite controversial with basically, like politicians and commenters, people who are famously well-adjusted, and even more so now. Well, and very in touch with the mood of the public, of course.

Yeah, of course. As is always the case. When it comes to British commentators, politicians, and various columnists and so on, they always really have their finger on the pulse of what the man in the street thinks. That's right. We had the first round of polling out.

No, it was something like 75% of like people in the UK support a CS5, which, you know, it was fairly, it seems fairly reasonable to me in it. If nothing else, you would think that that public opinion would sort of like move the needle a little bit, but no, no, instead. Well, no, because that If nothing else, you would think that that public opinion would sort of like move the needle a little bit, but no, no, instead. Well, no, because that wasn't fair.

You can't go around asking the public a simple question, like should the slaughter stop, you know? You have to ask them a much more obfuscatory question about like, you know, the protocols of the elders of Zion. Yeah, yeah. Doing the polling the same way that like you do has borrow online, where the question is, do you condemn her mass 20 times?

Yeah. I just want to clarify the protocols of the elders of Zion was used for satirical purposes. We don't believe that that is real. This is sort of unrelated to the subject, but it is related to the idea of asking like a question about asking like a bad faith question for a very obvious objective,

which was in school when we were in sixth form. There were some roles where you were chosen, like you were divinely chosen to be head boy. But if you were a prefect, you got to vote for it. And someone's campaign, and this is very much speaking to the type was, if you don't vote for me, your gay. And he won. He won based on that slogan.

Statistically, you'd expect to because gay people are a minorit. It sounds like electoral. Yeah. Also, schools were not LGBT-few-friendly. At all, in the 2000s, surprising to many people. I imagine. You'd be gay, but only if you proved yourself by drinking from the puddle. Exactly. That is that is that is correct. And so and so from the school that brought you if you don't drink from the puddle your gay came the guy who was not related to puddle guy but did win an election based on if you don't vote for me your gay. Yeah, he's a he's a PPS now.

Yeah, so similar Braferman said that this is like you you know, a terror march, like a pro-Hamas march. When I was picking the reading series with this, I was like going through and I had to pick something different because every British column is why the far left are in Hamas support Hamas, Hamas are like playing in their back garden and they're bringing them out like a tray of cookies and orange juice. Hamas are on the undercard for the horrors and the hollow ways come back to him. Yeah, no, it's just, I mean, fucking, it's been a great week for the public historian too, because Simon Subbeck once

Fiore wrote this like long ago about how decolonization isn't real. Which, you know, we may get to it at some point. Simon Sharmaugh said it was like a weekly crystal night, which like, I think the idea, being a public historian, I thought you had to like study history a bit, but no, apparently not. Apparently it's exactly the same qualifications as me, which is just fucking go on Twitter and say whatever. It's just strikes me as insane as a Jewish historian to engage in that kind of like holocaust minimization. Well, you're saying that a peaceful protest on the streets of London to stop unarmed civilians and guards are being killed by the Israeli military is the same as the persecution of Jews under the Nazis. It's insane.

It is. And this is like, it genuinely feels like everyone with an ounce of power to decide this conversation nationally has just lost their fucking minds. It does. Yeah, it does feel like I've sort of been a bit hesitant. So like, kind of on the basis, felt like so much of this is obviously informed by historical traumas. And you know, you don't want to be that, I don't want to be about persons to be like, no, your historical traumas, which have been like, realized across generate, like,

you know, I don't want to like minimize that. And so I have less concern about them, but I have a lot more concern with people who are like, who don't actually have any sort of historic stake in any of this. Pretending that they have like, it's been a great amount for phylo-sermon system. they have, like the amount of commentators that are like, well, I'm not Jewish at all, but I feel the fear of my Jewish brothers and sisters. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think that's a thing. Like, I don't think that that is a thing

in the way that you think it is. And it feels and sounds weird. And it always sort of comes back to like, you know, like, you know, we've all seen the sort of like, LBC like red-faced guy or various forms, like shouting at anyone who's like, well, maybe the shooting should stop actually. Back could help things of the shooting stopped.

And then sort of being told that like, they support Hamas and like went to the same school as them actually and didn't realize. Like, a lot of the stuff. You know, they voted for Hamas and like went to the same school as them actually and didn't realize like a lot of the stuff. Yeah, voted for Hamas for head boy, you know, because they taught me I'd be gay. Also, like just kind of this kind of like the sort of insane, um, circle, the sort of insane triangulation and circumvention that like seems to only be what seems to sort of get what worse and more intense as more videos circulate of like the most,

like the greatest atrocities that you've ever seen. And to me, it sort of speaks to this idea that, at a certain point, these guys can't really justify like what's going, like they can't really sort of justify what's going on in the way that, like perhaps they were used to doing, right? The whole idea of like, you know, this is, you know, this is like the most moral or army in the world. Well, like, there's no fucking evidence

for that anymore, is that? This is the most sort of accurate army, like, you know, the sort of targeted and most accurate army will well, not really a lot of evidence for that either. Absolutely. And so you end up just having them kind of jumping through these bizarre hoops to kind of perform that really what they want is peace, but when you push them on like, what would be necessary for peace, which again, to go back to this, it would be good at the shooting stop for a little bit, don't you think? Is met with them, which is sort of like they even don't say it. And perhaps they're not saying it because they know that a red face guy will pop out and scream at them and try to deport them. Or this is very much just like, well, how do you kind of, how do you sort of maintain the performance at this point, right?

Yeah, I think the thing here is that there is no criticism mild enough to be allowed anymore. I think, and this is also what I come to, like we've been told for so long, but oh, it's okay to, like, you know, you can, you can kind of criticize the Israeli government as much as you want, right? Like that isn't a problem. But like actually it is. Yeah, turns out. But like very, very reasonable things. They've been like, yeah, like, you know, the IDF kind of suck and I'm really bad at doing this.

Hey, isn't it weird that Netanyahu and like other IDF officials are sort of saying that they want to like do a b- do an actual biblical genocide? Like, you know, the things that sort of like, there's a, there's a quote that know the things that sort of like visit visit visit a quote that's sort of about one of the uh what there was a speech about one of them gave it I can't I can't find it now is it a baby's uh amalike thing something yeah I've probably something like I did like very much like in those

veins of like yeah we are fighting a biblical war actually like and they're saying this this saying this very openly have to do this because her mass have built a counter-strike level underneath there the hospital. But like, yeah, but like this. They're doing fucking metal gear solid under there. They've got exclamation points above their head. They've got the flag room, they've got the red barrel room, you know?

That's right. They're saying this directly to the camera, right? And there are still people that are like, no, actually, that's not like, and when you point this out, they're like, no, actually, that's not happening. And if you've been sort of, give them the link, or like, you know, the sort of transcript to save these things, that they are saying very publicly to international TV stations, as well as as well as Israeli ones, your then kind of called in that,

you know, you have been called like every name on this side. So it does, I do, I do kind of want to save it. Like, I've been trying to approach this with like,. So it does, I do, I do kind of want to save it. Like I've been trying to approach this with like, as much good faith as I can. It does make you feel like you're going insane. Well, there's no good faith left, is the thing. Um, I mean, we had, we had a Labour MP, Andy McDonald, who gave,

what I thought was like a pretty mild statement, right? Which is, I have a verbatim in fact. We won't rest until we have justice until all people, Israelis and Palestinians, between the river and the sea, can live in peaceful liberty. And he's just been, he's had the whips suspended for that. He said the line. He said the line. He said between the rivers of the sea. He alluded to the line, which is, which is just that that's just the geographic delineation of the area in question, because he said in the statement where both Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace and liberty.

So it's like kind of what is the supposed offense in this statement? It's alluding to from the river to the sea, which is only ever quoted as that instead of, you know, like from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, which is what gets actually chanted, as if it's some kind of mass murder call. And it's so, so strange because there are so many people who are now trying to triangulate on this and now take a moderate position. As Starma said that he wouldn't suspend them then two hours later, he did suspend them. And you have people saying, well, it really does cause genuine fear to people. And it's like, well, first of all, why?

Second of all, I remember that having been chanted a process for my entire life. And it's only now this past like week when people have suddenly decided, oh, no, this is like some exterminationist piece of rhetoric, you know? It does, it does seem a little, a little strange. I mean, it kind of like, when you, when you think back to, you know? It does seem a little strange. I mean, kind of like, when you think back to, you know, the apartheid government in South Africa, which, you know, this government, of course, also supported, and stuff like, you know, they had to like reunify and they had to have like a kind of sort of conciliatory process that happened, which I feel like is what people who favor a one-state solution

in Israel are probably envisioned. Yeah, of course. So there was no mass genocide in South Africa after the end of apartheid. I mean, there were certainly some problems. But like, and that's kind of the closest analogous situation. It just, it feels as though we're not like talking about a real thing. Like, I can understand why if you're Israeli, you would have concerns about what a reunification would look like and why, therefore, you know, if you're Jewish more broadly and you support the existence of the state of Israel, you'd have concerns about what a reunification would look like and why, therefore, if you're

Jewish more broadly and you support the existence of the state of Israel, you'd have concerns about that. But the idea that any kind of equitable solution that includes both Palestinians and Israelis that's not just Israelis effectively keeping them in an open air prison is inherently genocides against Israelis or Jewish people seems to be just a completely like deranged is sort of inherently genocide against Israelis or Jewish people seems to be just a completely like deranged interpretation of what anyone is actually talking about.