TRASHFUTURE - *PREVIEW* Peter Village Green Preservation Society
Episode Date: December 20, 2024For this week’s bonus, we’re talking about the Starmer / McSweeney government getting outflanked on the left by frothing reactionaries because of their steadfast devotion to water companies being ...in private hands, and bad. We’re also talking about an amazing recent article about the mad boy king septuagenarian pub magnate who loves closing his pubs permanently as punishment for the slightest infraction. He’s real, and he’s (obviously) British. Get the whole episode on Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/posts/118378673 *POPES/LAGOON SHIRTS STILL AVAILABLE!* We've got some extras of our recent shirts that can be purchased online and will ship immediately! Get them here: https://trashfuture.co.uk/collections/all *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s UK Tour here: https://miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)
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In the US, you're on the verge of another government shutdown because of funding.
And the only person who is able to call for either the elimination of the debt ceiling or minting the coin.
I mean, if he mints the coin, then I must have talked to the fucking monkey's paw pension fund.
Yes.
Because, but Trump has said-
Come on, Biden, do it.
Trump himself has said, the debt ceiling is stupid. It's dumb that we do this circus every four years.
We shouldn't bother with it.
Yeah, Arya Mann allowed to say the obvious thing I would love a
big coin how big can the coin be he would love that it's gonna be like the
Sudbury giant nickel or whatever but it's gonna have a giant nickel in Sudbury
make mine twice as big the Canadian nickel they say it's very big we're gonna
make a bigger one folks that you can
hear like screaming in the background.
Much like the stimulus checks, right, another extremely obvious idea that he was able to
turn to his benefit, it will then ensure like six terms of Trump instantly just like overrides
the constitution, you're just stuck with a bust of forever purely because American media
and voter things. that's pretty cool
He's got a giant coin the last guy didn't have a giant coin. He was just old
It's gonna be twice as big as the Sudbury nickel and worth twice as much. That's right
It's pretty easy to the exchange rate. Yeah. Yeah, the Sudbury nickel I say, what do you mean the Sudbury three pennies?
We're gonna balance it on top of the Washington Monument who wants to see me put the Sudbury Nickel in this gigantic McDonald's coin spinner?
The US invading Canada just to do that.
On his inauguration announcing Canada's the 51st state, he's just like, and we're gonna
seal the deal by putting the Sudbury nickel into a big coin crusher.
Look, I don't want to seem too mean about the Canadians.
You know, their giant nickel is pathetic, but let's face it, if the, if the British
had a giant nickel, it would just be in the Canadian teacher's pension fund.
Just looking over at Canada, why are they playing with our nickel?
Yeah.
Stop it.
It's our nickel.
Not even, we don't even call it that. It's a 20p piece. It's octagonal.
I'm going to make Britain a giant pound.
Yeah. It's worth more than the nickel.
And that's how we're going to invest in our future.
For all the XL bullies.
Yeah. So anyway, so this is not really about like water.
Partly, yes, this is about water. Right.
But the high politics of it all is that this is, again,
continuing to be the parliament of Farage, right?
Where everyone's talking about the stuff Farage cares about,
and Farage is the only one who's allowed
to set an agenda that's anything other than the agenda that
was preset coming into the parliament.
It's so annoying that he's playing this entire institution
like a fiddle, and then part of the reason
why he's able to do that is that he doesn't even like it.
Like I understand why and like obviously it's not worth respecting parliament as an institution,
but like just on a personal level it's unsatisfying that he's not even enjoying being able to
fuck them all over like this.
Yeah.
Well it's that he ultimately right, it's a metaphor I've used before but it's that he ultimately, right? I like, and I've, I've the metaphor I've used
before, but it's like, if you're playing a high stakes game of chess against someone
and while you're figuring out your next move, they're robbing your house. Right? That's
what I mean. I'm playing the long game because they're LL racing is going to get fucked by
this over a few games. I might not have anything left in my house, but I think we know who
the real winner is. And you know, it's interesting, I think to see people left in my house, but I think we know who the real winner is. Morally.
And, you know, it's interesting, I think, to see people like, you know, the news agents,
you know, like Emily Maitlis and Lewis Goodall and whoever the third one is.
They should have a rotating third chair who's just like a guy who runs a news agent.
Yeah, an actual news agent.
Yeah, just like an elderly South Asian man just puts in it.
Probably the most sensible opinion on the whole show.
You get drafted into it the same way you do as building Sam Morton's data center. You see the QR code on the beer mat and you're like, I have to go be on
the fucking music. It's like jury juicy. You know, you can get out of it. I took Maitless giant
nickel. Oh God, is this is this Starmer's Bitcoin or Maitless's nickel? It's mine.
Maitless's nickel It's mine
You've gotta come on now
We're talking about
It should be Ruth Wilson is the third chair on the newsagents doing the Maitless voice
Give it to you Emily use the voice
Give me the water
Sorry
That's like one of the most fun moments I've had watching a movie for this show ever.
Just like, just the kind of like building incomprehension of why is she talking like that.
The BBC guesser.
I really need them to make a third Prince Andrew movie. Anyway.
Well, I mean, they're going to get it back on. We got to get Maitlis back on the case to ask about this Chinese spy.
Yeah, that's right.
So the news, Maitlis and Goodall have discovered suddenly being worried about money in politics
because Elon Musk and Nigel Farage are intelligible to people who are big news heads, but don't
really care about anything other than just like the game who's in, who's out, who's up,
who's down, what's in the headlines.
And you know, and it's, these are also people who are singularly.
You know, Westminster Village shit, which is, which also used to be somewhere you could go to get away from gambling.
That's.
But these are also people who are singularly uninterested in any of the lobbying bonanza that happened with labor.
People who are like, what's quadrature? Why do I care?
You know, who cares if they're like,
what if this like, if this like asset manager with a like climate research division is basically
buying its way onto like the climate change committee. We don't care about that. We don't
care that Keir Starmer is doing kinds of kindness without Waheed Ali. But now that Elon Musk is
saying, I'm going to come in and put money into politics in a way
that because he's continuing to meet with Nigel Farage now making more noises about
donating to reform is now they're saying, oh my God, how did it come to this?
Ministers are asleep at the possibility that a democracy is for sale, to which I have to
say, too late, too late.
You missed it.
It isn't for sale anymore.
It's already sold.
It's gone. Yeah. It's already sold. It's gone.
It's already gone.
It's already owned by the Canadian teachers.
The Canadian teachers already own it.
Yeah, it's in the pocket of big teacher.
I think the politics of being for sale, right?
That allows Thames Water to get like this.
When the politics,
the politics of actually doing something about it, right?
Which requires energizing people
with like material improvements
that you can make to their lives.
Right?
Sounds too hard.
I don't want to do that one.
Yeah.
That was ruled out.
That was ruled out as a possibility by people like, you know, Maitlis and Goodall, among
others.
Well, the good news is the British state can't be for sale because it doesn't have any assets
left.
So no one would buy it.
It's got some embassies.
Oh yeah, we can sell those.
Because like not being, not selling all this stuff off was, as we recall, like Jeremy Corbyn's
mad Hamas jam-based fever drink.
Not selling it off or not buying it or also having the kind of politically engaged population
that understands what electoral politics or democracy is actually good for, right?
Because a lot of people are like, well, electoral politics and democracy, let me think, what's that done for me lately?
Well, I mean, this is also the kind of problem with this, and you know, implicates
Faraj and everyone else, is if you just don't tell people anything, and expect
them, you know, and sort of like actively discourage them from learning
anything, and what they get from this is, oh, my water bills are going up again, and
the rivers are full of shit, and you just put that in a box, right, and you just leave that to simmer for a while, and the only person
who's thinking about that is Nigel Farage, basically, or like, you know, the left such
as it is, then I don't think you can be surprised when you as a kind of like institutional liberal
are like swept out of office by Nigel Farage at the head of his like shit hordes.
Yeah, well precisely. And it's also like the Farage Musk big money alliance, whatever it
turns out to be, if it turns out to be anything, these are mercurial men.
I mean, listen, there's always a chance that Elon Musk does too much of whatever he does
that makes him post, you know, manically, falls, hits his head on the corner of a table,
and we just don't have to worry about it anymore. There's always a chance.
Yeah. Then it's, then it's going to be like a kind of scrabble between like Andreessen,
Sachs, Kalkanis, just to see who's going to be the next one. But the Faraj Musk meetup,
it's a creature of the longterm agreement between all the parties and all the papers
and all the think tanks that the engine of reaction is good
and it's useful to get and hold people's attention
without having to promise them anything.
You just have to make sure
that a sensible person is revving it.
Whether that is Theresa May,
whether that is like Rishi Sunak, even Boris Johnson, right?
The worry was, oh, we have an insufficiently sensible person
revving the engine of reaction now.
You know, and it's, they're all doing the same thing
in the same direction. You know, and it's they're all doing the same thing in the same direction.
You know, the only and this is the story of the last 15 years, really,
is a story of the journey of Nigel Farage to the center of British politics.
You could argue he's been basically setting the agenda ever since the fucking
Gordon Brown made the Gillian Duffy comment.
You know, it's a bit glib to say that it's not actually right.
But like he's been setting the agenda for the last 14 years.
And the funniest thing, right, is
that conservative shadow business minister Andrew
Griffith has similarly and separately urged
the shadow business.
Urged, listen to this, Elon Musk to take another look
at the Tories before donating 100 million pounds
to Reform UK, highlighting his party's.
Please don't text him back.
Yeah, we could be sluts for
you too we could do all the stuff you like I'm sorry that our relationship got
stale highlighting his party's low tax and anti woke credentials it is really
really funny right and it couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people that
that can be bad knocking off her other, like, horrors,
won the Tory leadership election on the promise of being the most anti-woke, you know, the sort of, like, least considerate, most evil Tories there have ever been,
and then immediately get sat down in the cuck chair by Elon Musk giving, like, infinity trillion quid to Nigel Farage because he thinks he's a laugh.