TRASHFUTURE - Rubbish’s Eve

Episode Date: June 22, 2021

It was inevitable that we would talk about the recent NY Times article about ‘the end of the millennial lifestyle subsidy,’ as if it was a surprise that endless money was keeping rideshare apps’... prices artificially low in order to bankrupt their competition. We also discuss the Labour Party’s supposed roadmap to success or whatever. You will enjoy this! If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture Please consider donating to charities helping Palestinian people here: https://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/palestine-emergency-appeal/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3oja5NbR8AIVSOmyCh2LdQ9rEAAYAiAAEgKM9PD_BwE and here: https://www.grassrootsalquds.net/ *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards),

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and welcome back to Aaron Sorkins, the GB Newsroom. What's going on? All hands, Wadham College in Oxford. The dining hall is recommending students go meet free on Monday. Tom Harwood, Learning Control Room, GB News. What can you tell me about Wadham? We've got to enter reporting on it now. We're just cutting into our debate.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Why can't it just be Pones and Oats, as again, with breaking news from our walkwatch desk. We're getting a report that the Wadham College dining hall is recommending students go meet free on Monday. That is, meet free on Monday with vegan options at lunch and dinner being offered to students at a subsidised rate. We go live to our affiliate. OK, you're off, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Now Guido Fox is saying that Oxford Black Lives Matter is behind the vegan option. We're hearing that it's about decolonising dinner and it will include injera bread. Anyone else? Has anyone else confirmed this? No, nothing yet. Then so far, all we know is that it's a vegan option. We don't know if Black Lives Matter is behind this yet,
Starting point is 00:00:59 but Andrew, you're back in three. Two. If you're just joining us, Wadham College in Oxford is encouraging students to have a vegan option on Monday. I don't know how the left expects people who live in the red car at Darlington or Skunthought to react to this condescending move, but I know that I feel personally attacked. Look, the Daily Mail, the Telegraph, the BBC, the Sun,
Starting point is 00:01:18 they're all calling it with Guido. They're saying Black Lives Matter is behind vegan Monday at Wadham. What do we do? Get him current. Every second you're not current, a thousand people are changing the channel to the guy who is. That's the business you're in, like it or not. The Mail, the Telegraph, the Sun, they all say it's Black Lives Matter
Starting point is 00:01:33 and that they're decolonising the dinner hall. Wait, I'm on the phone with the vice-chancellor. It's not Black Lives Matter. The Mail called it wrong. The students just voted themselves to have a subsidised vegan option on Monday. They're sending us a list of the students' names who voted for it now. We have just learned that Vegan Monday is an initiative started by the students at Wadham College to make dinner more inclusive.
Starting point is 00:01:55 But what's next for these Wadham walkerati? When will the madness of inclusive dinners end? Nationalized sausages, collective farming, mandatory death camps. As a precaution against these very real dangers. We go live now to our GB News Oxford affiliate who has found the names of the troublemakers responsible here and has scoured their social media histories for any mention of Palestine. And you're off.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You're a goddamn newsman, Tom Harwood. And if I haven't tell you otherwise, you punch me in the face. Okay, thank you. But you're back on in 30 with Prince Andrew, Justice or Witch Hunt. Oh yay, oh yay, oh yay. And welcome to Rubbish's Eve. The pamphlet about how the Eve is rubbish. I am Sir Riley and I am joined by my colleagues in the studio.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yes, it's me. My name is Esquire. I've been placing a number of bets on which beads of condensation will reach the bottom of the window first at Boodles. And shouting down from the smoking room upstairs, of course. Sir Alexander Alice called well Spencer Kelly, Esquire. And of course. Always in a dress that chap, very interesting. Well, you know how it is at the East India Club.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yes, and then our friend Hussein of the Barbaray. Yes, Hussein Al Khattab. How would I describe myself other than the token Orientalist? Now, for our vaudeville, we have a meandering section of delights. We have news of the Scottish colony in New Caledonia in the Darian. And I'm sure you can all guess without gift of foreknowledge what has befallen these unfortunate souls. But before we begin, we are looking into the new mechanical Turk.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And Milo, I'm sure you can guess what's up with the mechanical Turk. Oh dear. Is the mechanical Turk in fact not an automaton, although it does have that appearance, but filled with nothing more than a trained ape. A mere vulgar piece. There's a boy concealed in its casing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And the North Manchester steam loom company has found itself at a spot of financial trouble, having found a man who was sent as to transportation in fictionalised invoices for them. But also, if you are interested, you can purchase for four pence and three shillings a waistcoat knitted by a Hebrew of Brick Lane, which displays on its obverse a most beguiling pattern
Starting point is 00:04:44 of the vivisected anatomy of a scoundrel looking a scan set of pamphlet. Yes, we shall be interviewing one Friedrich Engels. Hey, just kidding, it's not rubbish as Eve. The Victorian update of Midden's Advent. You can purchase copies for that with five dollars a month distributed on Edison's newfangled dervish, the wax cylinder. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I just noticed one thing when we were doing that, which is when you're trying to sound sort of 19th century and struggling, you slip almost perfectly into Boris Johnson. Well, I say this entirely. The atmosphere here at Boodles is positively glutinous. It is all four of us. We're all wearing opera hats. We're sitting around the fire at Boodles.
Starting point is 00:05:32 We are exchanging pamphlets about how the Eve is rubbish. Yeah, that's right. What we're doing is just like they did in the Victorian times, we have rediscovered an ancient and antique ritual called Midden's Advent and are replaying it for the benefit of a modern audience. And I hope you can hear the extraneous ease I have used to spell modern audience.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yes, twice weekly, we go and heckle some vaudeville performers. But no, it is. It is TF that podcast you're listening to right now. The podcast with two opening bits. Look, look, if you think of double here, if you think of two great opening bits, what I learned was you should always do both of them. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Never kill your darlings. Protect your darlings at all costs. That's why they're my darlings. One of my darlings is rubbish as Eve. Yeah, I would certainly never kill Alistair darling. All right, so try and action that we've got some stuff to talk about being dragged away in handcuffs. I said I would never kill him.
Starting point is 00:06:36 We got some stuff to talk about. Number one, I've tended to sort of just ignore the dominant Cummings revelations because they're just entertainment for liberals, but there has been one. The value is purely their humor, but boy has there been one thing I have enjoyed about it, which is that the screenshot of one of them
Starting point is 00:06:59 shows the prime minister stating that Matt Hancock, the health secretary and big special boy. Yeah, the big special boy of the podcast. There's Boris Johnson saying he is, quote, totally fucking hopeless. He's full of hope, first of all. So jot that down about our boy. There is no one more hopeful than Matthew Hancock.
Starting point is 00:07:20 He said as much because somebody is that they door stepped him and they asked him, I think you're totally fucking hopeless. And he said, well, no, I don't think I'm hopeless. Yeah, I don't think I'm hopeless. Being a little bit hopeless every now and again in moderation. I think that's why he's the guy who can capture the country's mood and what better mood is there for our generation
Starting point is 00:07:41 than people who aren't really sure whether they're hopeless and love to jump over a few concrete blocks every so often. Absolutely. Matt Hancock also, we should be happy because Matt Hancock has the most secure job in government right now because the second he is fired, it will look as if it's Dominic Cummings is like Sven Gali like master plan.
Starting point is 00:08:03 So Boris can't fire him. He just has to have full confidence in this guy who we've all seen be called a, you know, a total fucking idiot forever. It's fantastic. Matt Hancock is the fucking albatross and Boris's rhyme of the ancient Mariner. And the funny thing is it means that we are technically stuck with a golden retriever as health secretary
Starting point is 00:08:25 in the middle of the novel coronavirus pandemic. But also, so is Boris Johnson. And that is funny to me because basically it's like, our main thing about our health secretary is that he's got imposter syndrome. Yeah, health secretary is the one guy for whom Dunning Kruger effect isn't real. And so I just, I love that.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I love that so much. A guy who is just infinitely confident. He's killed so many people. So many people. But he's killed so many fucking people by accident. He has abso fucking Lutely done his best. Yeah, he has. He's done his best.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You can't say it for the rest of them. No. The rest of them have been, you know, just like... Like a days ago. Just like, oh, I don't give a toss. It'll probably be fine. And like Matt Hancock worked his little heart out and has killed so many people through his own incompetence.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I mean, you gotta laugh, I suppose. Yeah, you gotta laugh. You do gotta laugh. You gotta laugh and you gotta adopt him as like a mascot for your podcast. Cause what else are you gonna do? Yeah, what the fuck else are you gonna do? What the fuck else are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Vote them out. I mean, look, when he eventually does leave government and becomes like a vibes consultant somewhere. I think I am. We will hire. I think you'll be, you have a trash feature of vibes consultant Matt Hancock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I would, I guess I've said this before. I would love to have lunch with Matt Hancock. I think it would be really fun. Yeah, but it would be like an American girl restaurant. You have to like pretend Matt Hancock is eating. Just like order for Matt Hancock. It would be big moes on Whitechapel High Street where you can pay extras to like sit in the race car
Starting point is 00:10:12 and have like your American dynamite. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, there's such a, he absolutely is the health secretary who sleeps in the race car, but he says, I don't think I'm totally hopeless. I think I could give it a bloody good go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's Australian Matt Hancock. Anyway, I've got a little more in British politics land, which is... Or Britain as it's sometimes known. Well, yeah, that's well. Actually, it refers to a part of France called Breton politics land. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Well, the trouble is all the politics is coming over here because before it wasn't any. It was just blokes. So it was basically... There was a time when they were just blokes. Now it's politics and blokes with mental health. I say, Sir Riley, we seem to have let a costamunger wander
Starting point is 00:10:57 into our pamphleteering exercise. That sounds sort of moor. So I back in, I want to talk a little bit about a loser party for nerds, which has released its new... Not manifesto, but it's really its new road. It's new branding. It's new branding,
Starting point is 00:11:15 which is as memorably typo'd by the Guardian, stronger together. The labor party is going to make us stronger. That's fucking right. We're going to be stung in. Even if you correct the typo and say stronger together, I can think of so many fantastic political campaigns that had stronger together as their slogan.
Starting point is 00:11:35 The Hillary Clinton campaign. The Remain campaign. Yeah. The Remain campaign. And then also the No campaign for Scottish independence, which as we all know, It did win, but it certainly also captured the zeitgeist
Starting point is 00:11:48 and still has a lot of momentum. Especially if, for example, you're trying to rebuild a party that has fled to the SNP, adopting where your voter base rather has fled to the SNP, adopting the slogan of the No campaign is the way to do it. I genuinely feel that if we reran an independence referendum, No would win again because that's the funniest outcome. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:13 That would be very funny, but I've got some details of the stronger together roadmap. All right. How are we going to get stung? So we're all here. We're doing curls, but we're doing curls of Victorian style weights. And we're also doing them like with our lower backs.
Starting point is 00:12:29 We're like bouncing medicine balls around. We're all wearing like one piece swimsuits with stripes on them. We're having an amazing time. We are in a steam room exercising because like someone like some quack doctor somewhere said it like good food for the phlegm. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, that's fucking right. Yeah. So I'm going to pass the medicine ball to you all and say here's the six points of the roadmap. So labor is new. And I'm going to, because it's a colon, a colon, perhaps it's a colon. It's a list that starts with the colon,
Starting point is 00:13:04 which means I'm going to say the bit that comes before the colon before each one because it's supposed to make sense that way. All right. Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring Britain together for better jobs and work. Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring Britain together for a green and digital future. Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring Britain together
Starting point is 00:13:21 for safe and secure communities. Cops. Cops zone. Cops zone. Why the dogs all start barking? Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring... I welcome the dogs and the barking of the dogs, but I would say,
Starting point is 00:13:33 can we do more? Can we come together as dogs and people and whistles to build a better Britain? And I would say to dogs, give the Labour Party a go. So we'll bring Britain together for public services that work. But opposed to what the other party is offering, which is public services that don't work.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Public services that don't work and are run by a moron. Yeah. I mean, again, that's what they're actually offering, but like they say they're offering the other thing. And so you're both saying the same thing. And so everyone's just going to think, well, that just means it won't work. Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring Britain together
Starting point is 00:14:07 for a future where families come first. That dog whistle is getting awfully loud. I'm starting to hear it now. Labor's new stronger together roadmap will bring Britain together for Britain in the world. I love to bring Britain together for Britain in the world. That's a normal sentence that I love to say. I mean, you could tell that this was written with sort of
Starting point is 00:14:25 passion and conviction that there's something behind it, because it's been edited to the point where you say, we'll bring Britain together for Britain in the world. Britain. Britain in the world, that is what we are. It's very much a, you know, do you remember cool Britannia? Do you remember how cool that was? Do you want that back? We're going to get like Keir Starmer is going to hang out with the Gallagher's.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I think that blur fans and Oasis fans can put aside their differences to build a stronger or indeed a stronger Britain. Milo, Milo, Milo, you poor simple fool. You've done the thing again where you prefigure more or less what they suggest. Oh, no. Oh, no. Keir. Where does this leave me as an alienated pulp fan? Lib Dems.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I mean, the late party are definitely not interested in common people. Yes. Well, so, so this is from an article by Annalise Dodd recently promoted absolute charisma powerhouse. Extremely memorable woman. Yeah. 10 out of 10 dime. What happened if you remember was that Annalise Dodd was promoted to Labour Party chair much in the same way that Homer Simpson was promoted to guard the bee.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. And in the same way that fucking Constantine Shannenko was put on the Politburo. Like all of these people are the same person. Yes. Yeah. Trotsky was promoted to a ice pick inspector. It's my job to guard the bee. So let's build a future to be proud of.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Okay. Well, the pen while the pandemic has exposed over a decade of Tory failure and has been such a dreadful time to our country. It has also shown the very best of Britain. And this is like the theme of the fucking Captain Tom boats doing donuts. Remember the Queen parachuting out of the thing into the Olympics. But cool Britannia. We're going to do that again.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's going to be great. It's going to be stong as hell. Yeah, more or less. That's what she says. My man stong. She says up and down our country. Neighbours banded together to look out for those who needed help. Captain Tom.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Captain Sir Tom would have voted Labour even though he didn't. But if he would have, he would have. Yeah. Captain Sir Major Tom. Captain Major General Sir Tom. Thousands volunteered to help our NHS. Businesses came together with trade unions and government to build ventilators in record time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm not sure that's what happened. Well, it's a nice story about what happened. And wouldn't it be nice if that's what happened? Yeah. Wouldn't that be good? Hey, Alice, I think you're talking Britain down here. Yeah, probably. What I should be doing is I should be bringing Britain together for Britain and the world.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And I haven't been bringing Britain together for Britain and the world. Britain in the world. When has that ever been bad? We're here at the East India Club. Talking about Britain in the world. Yes. Bully. She workers went above and beyond.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Slam cutlets. I asked for blood in these. There's no blood. Check this. Listen to this sentence without developing an aneurysm. Key workers went above and beyond time and again supporting those who needed help. So thank you for the pay raise. That was about what?
Starting point is 00:17:34 20% of what we asked for. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. And then that was just the amuse-bouche of sentences that will boil your blood. Here's the real sentence that'll boil your blood. Boil the blood in these cutlets, doesn't it? We're boiling.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Again, we are boiling our blood because they quack doctor from Italy. Kills tabaki noses. Bring cleat orbs in here. There's no horseradish. Damn you, man. I asked for tripe. And AstraZeneca teamed up with Oxford University and NHS key workers to deliver a vaccine at cost price.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Wasn't it nice of AstraZeneca to team up with Oxford University? What was Oxford University going to do initially before AstraZeneca was teamed up with them? I presume that they weren't going to just make a vaccine and make it free to access to everyone. And then Bill Gates talked them into giving the exclusive rights. No, because the thing is AstraZeneca developed the vaccine, but they had to partner up with Oxford University because in order to distribute a vaccine, you need access to a number of extremely fucked drinking traditions.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's right. Yeah. Actually, the only way to consume a vaccine is to drink it out of a shoe. Yeah. So, you know, you look pretty stupid right now. You have to get scanced with the vaccine. The only way to get back stop is if you're at dinner and then you mention a woman who's not the Virgin Mary or the Queen.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So that's an ironclad way to get the vaccine. It was part of a deal of like when you're in the Bullington Club, every you have to do partnerships. Like that's kind of the new tradition. Yeah. Yeah. Like you smash up the restaurant and you throw 50 pound notes through the windows, very much the same thing with the immune system.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I mean, smashing up the restaurant since throwing some 50 pound notes through the windows is more or less the strategy of the West to deal with the vaccine crisis and developing countries. Yeah. And it's going to go great. So, this is what Dodds continues to write. Wherever we look in our own communities or across the country, Britain proved that we're stronger together and Labour wants to harness the spirit of togetherness.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Oh. Maybe the real recovery is the friends we made along the way. And then it's like what level of sort of per-soc-ification speed run is it that you get this sort of vibes only socialist party? Again, are we going to harness the spirit of together? Well, Labour finally takes a stance on anti-bullying. Like what the hell? Yeah, but also not really.
Starting point is 00:20:08 No, we're cracking down. But in the same way that they've made a video about how it's cool to be cool. Sorry, it's very cool to have a library called. No libraries left. Even on a very conceptual level, I was sort of thinking about this. Even on a very conceptual level, this feels like so... I mean, it's very, very tweet, but at the same time, when you compare it to the conservative electoral strategy, which is like ignore all the people that we've killed.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And here are the actual divisions in society between like the elitist, the elitist metropolitan liberals who go to press and monger and like the working class landlords who go to cost a coffee, you know, they've set these sort of like boundaries, which basically imply that there is no way that in Britain, people are together. There are very clear divisions. And if you are, you know, on a particular side, then we are the party that represents you. And it just feels like very...
Starting point is 00:21:03 It feels very stupid for Labour to kind of be like presenting this very tweet fantasy of like, no, actually everyone is like together and, you know, there is real unity and stuff like that. Basically, you know, it's really like sort of missing the mood music in quite a major way. And I wasn't sure if that was just me who picked that up. No, no, I think you're right. The whole like they're just sort of saying, what if we sort of...
Starting point is 00:21:28 Because alienation is the main thing I think people feel in Britain. No, no, the mood music is things can only get better. I have been playing it on this cassette record that I got in 1997. The tape has worn through, but I'm absolutely determined that we're all still listening to things can only get better. I think that's part of it. I think also like, and you know, we speak about this a lot on the part on this pod, which is about like doing doing politics via focus group.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And, you know, the whole line about like, you know, the Corbin gut, the Corbin like Labour Party was like divisive and it split people and like it was confronted. Yeah. It was like, you know, momentum were like bullying people online and all that stuff. Like, you know, I think, you know, even though all those arguments were really like just in complete bad faith and also missed the mark, I think that like a Labour Party that is really devoid of ideas because any sort of, you know, policy that is in any way on the left will just be associated with the Corbin project.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You know, so now they're trying to kind of like play these platitudes based on this idea that they sincerely believe that like the Corbin administration was too confrontational rather than actually seeing, but no, this was actually just like, this was just like another way of like tarnishing the left. Yeah. I mean, I think that's if you could even sort of take that one step further and be like the shitty, just absolute, just vapid like bowl of white flower nonsense that they're coming out with now is basically like an end zone dance on the left because like they
Starting point is 00:22:54 don't have anything else to do. Like they have phony baloney jobs now. They just go in, collect a paycheck and that's fine. Yeah. I'm sure like they all think they're trying to win and I'm sure they're doing their best. It's funny that this is their best. Here's the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:23:06 I think there's a certain level of cognitive dissonance about the like awareness of that, which is why despite having gotten everything that they want, the labor right are absolutely miserable and hate it is because like there's all they can do is kick left. And while that's fun, the like it's making them a little bit psychotic. That's true. That's true. That is right. So the article finishes.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Labor wants to harness the spirit of togetherness to take Britain to new heights. Awesome. We're going to hook everyone up on to like it's going to be like scanners. We're going to hook everyone's scans together and then we're all our veins are going to bulge out and then Britain is going to lift slightly out of the ocean. Mr. Decker, is this test meant to decide whether I'm an entrepreneur or a lesbian? It's really crazy because in the 90s we were in government, but now all I do is I say things that don't mean anything, but it's important because of anti-semitism.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Our achievements in government proved we're stronger together. So they have said that. We are stronger together. Yeah. We created the NHS. We introduced a national minimum wage. We slashed child poverty and we brought peace to Northern Ireland. I think it's fucking, it's Annalise Dodds claiming fucking like a Niren Bevan.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah. Is that? I thought the spirit of togetherness thing sounded familiar and it does because Boris Johnson used the term in November 2020 when the last lockdown was in institute again. I'm not sure like the dates exactly, but yeah, like the first time, at least according to this Google search, that term was used. It was used by Boris Johnson. So once again, Keir Starmer is just copying the Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:24:54 What a great, I am so excited for the next election. I really am. I'm going to be holding a little foam finger. What's Keir Starmer's rising sign? Yeah, that's right. Anyway, I want to move on because we've got some stuff to cover up. Boring policy for losers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Loser party for losers continues to be full of massive losers and I love to watch it, try to do stuff. Yeah. Fuck off down the Athenein. Yeah. Get out of Goodles where we're recording this. Yeah, that's right. We're recording this onto a wax cylinder.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. So currently we're in the cigar room. Yes. In fact, gentlemen, a new royalist broadsheet has been printed and wouldn't you know it within 36 hours? They've defended, basically published a piece that contained a quote, defending the practice of taking catamites. Good Lord, I say.
Starting point is 00:25:42 My word. No, we are, of course. Thank God we're all chaps here. I lost some blood in this cigar. Damn you. Yeah. Yeah, it's more rubbish as the eve. There we go.
Starting point is 00:25:53 That's right. Cleave off. Where are my bloody cigars? And all my bloody cigars, my bloody cigars. Yeah. This gives me an idea for a sketch about baseball. Baseball. Anyway, we're talking, I want to talk a little bit about GB News, which is finally launched.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Lose the network for nerds. Yeah. Boy, what a quality program it is. I've not watched anything else. Much like Breaking Bad. It is addictive watching. Everyone's around the water cooler at their jobs that they're at talking about. What's going to happen next on GB?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Will the Andrew Neil character finally get together with the other one? Yeah. The news man. Don, I have a question I have is when did Britain last like make something new? That was like notable. When we invented racism, whatever that was. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:49 It was in the drawing with the bootles. I think of a particularly inventive wax cylinder. We were betting against each other about which raindrop would hit the bottom of that pain first. And then one of us said the first slur. Yeah. Just riffing it really. Yeah. But like that's a genuine question.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I say, I say Quinn, you're covered in soot. Take this lipstick. So the question is right, when did Britain last make like a new thing? Like the Dyson vacuum. The fucking vaccine maybe. I mean, it's a world leader. Love Island. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I was going to say it's a world leader in like a particular form of reality TV celebrity and reality TV show. Yeah. Made in Chelsea. It's actually a podcast. I guess, and I guess that that's what we've done. We've made more kind of entertainment that feels like it's got high stakes because it's part of a sort of carefully scripted teleplay of what's real. Describe to the Patreon. I want actually for us to be included on one of those Britain is great things that the foreign office does.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Oh, you like, you like Tetley tea and the trash future podcast. Air dropping pallets of trash future tapes to the impoverished nations of the world. No one would know if a Swedish man was Italian without us. I think what you're suggesting is actually that we have to send a train down from Cape to Cairo with laden with wax cylinders and rubbish as he. That's right. No, so Britain has finally made a new thing. We have made GB news, a reactionary billionaire funded TV network that's I know people are saying is Britain's Fox. They're wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. It stands for getting bussy news. Yes. Sky is Britain's Fox. Yeah. GB news is Britain's like Newsmax or like based on American news network. Yeah. I think that like based on what I've seen, which is just like a lot of like it's it's law.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Everything has sort of been terrible about it. And I'm sure we'll talk about the most funny moment in like in a bit, but it's just been sort of plagued with technical errors. I'm Tom Harwood's Mike keeps getting cut off. Like all the sound is horrible. Their correspondence have no idea where they're going, but also more importantly, like all they're talking about is stuff on Twitter. So like I was watching it very briefly this morning because I forgot that I have free view and they had like sent their Liverpool car. They were like talking to like their Liverpool correspondent who was like standing in the street of Liverpool somewhere. I was I was expecting it to sort of be at least kind of a semi local story, but they were talking about them.
Starting point is 00:29:22 They were talking about Enid Blyton getting cancelled. So they basically you got to you got to get the Liverpool correspondent. So they basically sent London based like people who were based in London to the regions of the UK to talk about what's happening on Twitter. Yeah. Enid Blyton has been cancelled by being dead and that needs you to report. Yeah, but you need to go to Liverpool to report on it. I mean, like again, like the thing is like the British, I think we've talked about this even on like the last free episode, right? The British media is a big thing that talks to itself and that like, I don't know, 20% of the country just claps at like a train seal.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, but it's like doing lobby journalism is fine when there's an actual parliamentary lobby doing lobby journalism for Twitter beefs. Yeah. Yeah, incredible. That's our thing. That's our thing. Shut up. Fuck off, Andrew. And also like it's astonishing that we have better production values than them because they have the production values of one of those Macedonian teenager fake news websites.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Like, you know, like news, squeeze, dot scam. It has very close to the vibes of the Michelin web sketch about TV after the apocalypse. Like you get Andrew Neil. Yeah, Andrew Neil sort of doing a piece of camera wearing a dark suit in front of a black backdrop. It is very much like mine is the last voice you will ever hear kind of thing. So I mean, if you look at the Andrew Neil's opening monologue, who I've accidentally written is Andre Neil. Andre Neil. Andre Neil 3000.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Hello and welcome to my steakhouse. Andrew W. K. Neil. Yeah. So we will encourage debate and conversation to include voices you don't often hear on other news broadcasts, which they of course, like they just get like tele... We know that they were just going to get like telegraph journalists and spectator journalists and like right wing talking at some Twitter. Like that's what we knew they would do. And then shock horror. That's what they did.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Right. And like ideally a handful of like credulous leftist dupes to like kick around. I think Ben Butterworth has already been on a few times. Of course. What a fucking name. And so but like for even... Very bussy Ben. They're not very good even at doing their own thing, right?
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like I was a bit with Dan Wooten of the Sun. Dan Wooten. Dan Wooten. This man Wooten. Dan Wooten in Hollywood. Yeah, Wooten. Yeah. Tries to like get Alan Sugar to just like say something that they could like put on about taking the knee.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah. Lord Sugar say the word. Yeah. It's like Alan Sugar. Would you take the knee? And he's like, where would I take the knee in a Sainsbury's? And but it's like, yeah, you just, you tell, he's trying to, he knows Alan Sugar is like someone who basically agrees with most of what he thinks. And so he says, Alan Sugar, will you feed me some of the lines that I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:32:01 And it's just like, I don't know. I won't. And you just get to see these like, I get these guys who have had, who've been in like tutorial island since they were 18, right? Having to like go into like the first level of the game and just badly fucking up. Which is very funny. The other funniest thing about it is they have so much money. They have so much fucking money, right? And like, if you have that much money and like sort of your principles and no object, right?
Starting point is 00:32:31 You can make a very polished looking TV channel because like Gulf Microstates do it all the time. They just like, you hire in all of the people that you need, but you hire in actually like talented like sound engineers and like editors. And instead of doing that, they just kind of didn't and just hoped it would work out. I think it's an entire company of cousins. It's all just people's cousins and nephews. Cousins, nephews and wives. It's actually just three guys. They're all the firm of cousins, nephews and wives. I mean, like I've worked for a channel that actually like not is not only very similar to GB news, but actually from what I understand, poached a few people.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And that was of course RT UK. Like I was, I used to work in, you know, in a very low level role a long time ago. And when RT UK launched in the UK, like they basically were, but they were basically built what GB news wants to be. But you're right. Like they made the kind of good decision of like, okay, we will get some like competent technical people to come from Russia to like set this channel up. And then we'll just get all the dickheads to like be presenters and stuff. It feels like with GB news, but they've gotten like everyone who was like in different ecospheres of like the reactionary political debate discussion elements like LBC and Sky News. Put them in one place and realize that like, oh, that, you know, this doesn't work like Twitter where like everyone can just jump on with their posters brain.
Starting point is 00:33:56 You actually have to have some technical knowledge of like how you use. You have to have like Dima who spent 16 years editing Soviet TV and like has a master's degree in it. Telling fucking Andrew Neil to talk into the microphone. Yeah. In a loud voice because he has PTSD from the second session. And I think this is the thing, a lot of like, a lot of like Andrew Neil, but I also imagine a lot of the other hosts like really, from my experience of working in TV, they really treat like low level people, whether those are kind of like runners or junior producers and like stuff like that. They really treat them like shit and they have no idea like what they do.
Starting point is 00:34:29 They have no idea like how difficult it is to like work for a terrestrial TV channel. And especially on like a network that is like it's animating ethos is the crying laughing emoji. They're not going to like be sympathetic boss. So I imagine that like what's happened is that they've given like, they've used a lot of that money to like pay their like hosts a lot of monies like come on. They're still paying their like juniors like fucking nothing because they just underestimated how difficult a television channel would be. And like they would have been much better off like just building a YouTube channel. Like, Yeah, London Real.
Starting point is 00:35:03 London Real has better production values than GB News does. Our next guest is going to be explaining how to jack off very well. So do tune in for that. I mean, I'm excited for GB News to like what take like three days because they've already had like a segment where they sent someone up north to be like, What do you call a bun? And within the first 24 hours of going on. A plausible BBC shit to be honest. And then yeah, but the BBC is like it's run out of steam at this point, but it had a lot of energy in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah. At this point, yeah, GB News is just like launch week. Yeah. What launch week? What are we going to say? I don't know. What do you call a bun? And I'm very excited for them to have the like that account, Edwardi and Esquire and on to just like come and talk about the different Esquire, excuse me, Instagram girls.
Starting point is 00:35:47 He wants to like, you know, look at the Mona Lisa way. I'm very excited. I'm very excited. I think it's like was bappin to be a guest. I think that's going to be really fun. Yeah. He's going to be the code, the token liberal. But I think like, but here's the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:35:59 Just there are two things about GB News. Number one, the point of GB News isn't actually to be watched. It doesn't matter if no one watches it. It doesn't need to be retweeted. Or it just needs to exist because the thing is that countries media talks to and about itself and it probably won't be watched by altogether that many people. Even if it is, it's mostly just columnist grinding their axes about completely incomprehensible topics and trying to make people mad about the same things they're mad about. If it has a message. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It's kind of Trump shit in that respect. It's like very powerful. But not as fun. No, but not as fun. But the same kind of just like incredibly niche, interneesine, personal disputes. The thing is you get, Trump got people passionate about like, I don't know, like the toilets. Andrew Neil has never got anyone passionate about anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 But like the thing is, right? The mess actual message of GB News is basically just the same as a children's cereal commercial that suggests your parents and teachers don't want you to have sugarblasted cocoa puffs. But instead of your parents, it's largely fictional organized. I wanted blood in these sugar puffs. Damn you. Cleetops. There's nothing new under the sun, basically. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:03 That's it. That's all there is. And also it's like, you know, already, you know, like the BBC has been trying to appease like this side of the media for a while. And will continue to do so. Like this is the utility of it continuing to exist is that it can drag the BBC further right. And even then the BBC's presenters are still like getting hounded by, you know, gangs of angry red men. Screaming traitor in their faces. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's almost as though if you decide, hey, everyone, I think we know what we need to do. We need to basically make allegations of, you know, that anything that sort of doesn't really is sort of to sort of not even left wing, because when left wing is conceived of as anything that is. We need to put we need to put trees and back on the table. That needs to be a thing that we can accuse people of. And we need to like say that it's a legitimate concern. We need to say that it's a legitimate concern after like somebody murders an MP in the name of like alleged treason. And we need to keep doing that until the very second that anybody says it to me personally. And then it's a colossal threat to the freedom of the press.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So what happened was BBC presenter Nick Watt was basically hounded by a gang of, you know, anti lockdown morons. What fucking lockdown? What can you not do right now? Well, that's the thing. It's the lockdown that is presented as fictional. It's the fit is essentially the fictional lockdown that is presented as like what they had in Wuhan, which worked by the way. Yeah, it's a real lockdown. And it's a real lockdown.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I know this because because I can't park outside school gates anymore. I have to be two meter distance. I've just sanitized the door had the passenger door handle of my feet pun. So after every child gets in there. Getting shoot away from parking outside the school gates. I'm like, I'm just here for the mill. I understand how it looks. Yes, I'm here meeting women, but they're older.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I couldn't be less interested in the children. I can't stress that enough. So this is the end of Andrew Neal's monologue. Because we will always demand respect for other points of view. And if you want fake news, lies, disinformation, distortion of the fact, conspiracy theories, then GB news is not for you. Because in everything we will be we do, we will be guided by the highest journalistic standards. And then within 36 hours, they had a member of the landed gentry come on to suggest to Dan Wooden that Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew were a FIBA files, not pedophiles. And there's a lady Colin Campbell, an incredibly weird woman.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Just wildly like Britannology episode in and off herself. Yeah, that's right. The weirdest fucking accent to sort of wandering through. She's got like, oh, she's a white Jamaican. You have to understand that Mr. Epstein, he's not a paedophile. No, she literally is a white Jamaican. A paedophile. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Yeah, her accent is absolutely incredible. She pronounces paedophile the same way that normal person would pronounce paeter. Like it's a fucking. Then to the new paedophile, the detector. It's a little apartment you keep in central Paris. So when you're not saying your main residence is elsewhere, pa file. Anyway, so look, I wanted to read this end of the millennial lifestyle subsidy article from the New York Times a couple of weeks ago. But we've talked about a lot of elements of it before.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And one just so another item just sort of wandered across my desk today. Trundled across your desk at 20 miles an hour. Yeah, yes. It was it's this it's this new trained cat we have serving cocktails at poodles. That's right. There's an Abyssinian inside it. I think the funniest possible consequence of this bit is we get a cease and desist from poodles. We would never let you in.
Starting point is 00:41:00 They might let you get away with this sort of thing in white. So remember how Elon Musk said he was going to bring the Internet to the world with a program called Starlink? Oh, was that like the satellite? Yeah, that was the thing where he like destroyed the night sky. Right. Yes. Yes, that's right. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Starlink apparently has a little bit of an F 35 logic to it. Oh, wow. It already sounds very 80s actually, Starlink. It's not something the Reagan administration would have done. Well, the F 35, it's certainly much less functional than the F 16. Yeah. A Starlink beta user in Arizona, so report ours, Technica. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 They're just already slagging him off. Starlink Virgin, a Virgin Starlink user and probably realistically in Arizona said he lost Internet service for over seven hours yesterday when the satellite dish in the region overheated. Oh, well, that's never going to happen again. I should have downloaded that much hentai part. When the user's Internet service was disrupted, the Starlink app provided an error message saying offline thermal shutdown. Starlink will reconnect after cooling down. I will point out that due to due to climate change, the western United States is currently in its first anthropogenic mega drought, which is great. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That sounds good. Mega drought. Yeah. Yeah, mega drought. Yeah. Well, I mean, drought is drought and mega means good. My favorite detail about this is our guy, our beta user, our Virgin user, contacted Starlink support and in a level of infantilization, I have previously only seen in like NHS leaflets. They told him dishy will go into thermal shutdown at 122 degrees Fahrenheit and will restart when it reaches 104 degrees Fahrenheit.
Starting point is 00:42:58 God, I mean, combine that with the fact that Elon Musk's like magical Internet project that's probably was poorly thought through is suffering from the effects of said mega drought. It very much is like, um, I know escaping the effects of like a boiling seawater or whatever by pulling a little, um, by pulling on a little like, you know, life jacket. It says, I turn myself into a pickle board. It's literally called dishy McFlatface. That's the name of the satellite dish. Oh, that's what it's called. And that is what they call it when you talk to them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Uh, sorry, I know you wanted to order emergency ration packets, but I'm afraid dishy McFlatface doesn't work in the normal temperature. Range that it is now. So basically the user then poured a bunch of water on it. It was a good thing to do with electronics. Yeah. And then knew it was working because he heard YouTube start again. I assume Brian Rose learning how to jack off. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah. He was like, I got to 40. What do I do now? I got to finish my urban gentry video. I finally got him to, got to hear him say, okay, chow, which really like completed my day. Wait, what's going on on, uh, rub, rubbishes advent? No, rubbishes. Rubbishes Eve.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It's middens. Rubbishes Eve rediscovered the ancient and antique tradition of middens advent. That's right. Yes. As opposed to the slightly earlier rediscovery, the Georgian one, where we're all above a coffee house and it's called something like, uh, in which the future is revealed to be a great heap of turds and podcast. Yeah. That's right. I feel like there's, we'll figure out the differences enough to do the Georgian one as well.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. When I stopped the sprinkler, the dish heated back up and would cycle back on for a few minutes and then go back into thermal shutdown. Because it's hot. It's too hot. Awesome. So basically in order to have this, you need to have like cold water. Uh, if you want free internet in a hot area. Mega drought.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And don't forget like a lot of what Elon Musk wanted to do with this was bring internet to the global south. Yeah. And that, that, that was the like cultural that like his weird nerd reply guys would use anytime you're like, Hey, this seems bad is, uh, he's bringing internet to places that don't have internet. So fuck you. Yeah. So it only works basically if you also have constant, a constant stream of cold water that you can't turn off to pour onto the satellite dish. People in the global south simply don't have access to epic memes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I just want to grill and get internet at the same time. I want to watch Google while I grill. They also like a bear also a market that's fresh for, uh, like Bitcoin scams, which may or may not help Tesla. Who knows. And so here's the other funny thing. What he did was he built a shade over the dish then, but then it transpired that enough heat was coming out of the bottom of the ground to cook the bottom of the dish. Oh no. So that still didn't work.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Awesome. So now what he has to do is he either has to keep a constant stream of water flowing onto it or has to hold it off the ground. Can he build like a little table for it? Um, yeah. I mean, this is annoying, but I'm sure there is an engineering solution. Put it on a little table under a sunshade. Yeah. But can the table be epic?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Hmm. Could we call the table? What's the table is made of? Flat top, uh, a haircut. Like a flat top haircut. Yeah. Um, yeah. So, uh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Uh, SpaceX Starlink, uh, does not work. Dishy McFlatface. Yeah. Dishy McFlatface does not work. I think I went out with her. Yeah. Dishy McFlatface is like a features writer for the horse and hound. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Didn't she go to Marlborough? Yeah. I'm pretty sure I've met that shit. All right. All right. So now I delayed getting to the millennial lifestyle subsidy article. I'm going to do a little bit of an abridged version of it because I felt like I couldn't. I couldn't not talk about Dishy McFlatface.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Of course. Um, so it basically, this is this last little short bit or little bit of reading is an article from the gray lady. The New York times. The paper of record only in the big Apple baby honk honk. Dinoius York site. Yeah. Hey, your time's here.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And in, in flushing meadows. Uh, get out of here. Why don't you head back to Bed-Stuy? We are currently all like in bootles, but we're sipping from those. We are happy to serve you cups. Yeah, we are. We are absolute. We are all wearing I heart and Y t-shirts, like a real New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I say, you heard about these chaps in New Amsterdam. Oh, yeah. We're in the Yale club of New York. Hey, well, I say, good man, I was walking here. We're walking up to a bar that serves Kratom and we are stepping around some Brooklyn Fatso's on lawn chairs. I'm sorry. A classic thing to do notes.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So this is an article saying basically the millennial lifestyle subsidy is now over. Oh, no. What lifestyle subsidy? How are we having our lifestyle subsidized besides Patreon? Okay. Well, look, the, so what, wait, basically the, the opening gambit of this article is to say, look, the, um, a few years ago, well in a work trip in Los Angeles, I hailed an Uber for a crosstown ride during rush hour.
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, it would be a long trip. I steeled myself to fork over up to $70, but ended up only paying $16. Uh, experiences like this, he says, were common during the golden era of the millennial lifestyle subsidy, which I like to call the period from roughly 2012 to early 2020. When many of the daily activities of big city 20 and 30 somethings were being quietly underwritten by Silicon Valley. Bane voice for you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. Exactly. Absolutely not for anyone outside that age group. Like no one who's over 30 has ever taken an Uber. That's never happened. Or ordered food. Or done any of these things. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah, indeed. And, you know, he's, he basically the, the, the tone of this article is, um, in fact, I'll, the tone of this article is well summed up by the text paragraph for years. These subsidies allowed us to live Balenciaga lifestyles and banana republic budgets. You have to go to writing school to learn how to write a sentence like that. Yeah. Um, it's, it sounds like something that like a huster tornado of Bonomy. It sounds like something that like a huckster character voice by Phil Hartman.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Balenciaga is a very, um, like it's like a, it's like a, like when you take a taxi cab, it's like getting a Balenciaga. It's a luxury. Yeah. It's one Balenciaga, Michael. What could it cost? $70. Uh, collectively we took millions of cheap Uber and Lyft rides shuttling ourselves around
Starting point is 00:49:39 like bourgeois royalty. While splitting the bill. Oh yeah. I like seeing in the back of a Toyota Prius, like a fucking king. Yeah. Charlemagne couldn't have imagined this kind of luxury listening to capital FM while I get driven around by a guy who hasn't seen his family in 10 years. And I mean, I think like the, like the tip of the, the, um, Kevin Ruse, the, uh, writer
Starting point is 00:50:01 of the article does sort of acknowledge like not everyone, not every millennial benefited for the millennial lifestyle subsidy. And that basically like if you want to be an urban, Yeah. It's almost as if the premise of my article is stupid. But, but basically is that writing is those sort of, um, uh, as, as the living with the services that again, like depend, but we know depend on a high degree of say, you know, exploitation of like labor rights, circumvention and stuff, and allowing you to benefit from
Starting point is 00:50:29 them for cheap essentially means you live like a king, but that live, but that the promise of those services right, um, was that we, um, there is an abundance there to be unlocked only by someone who is smart enough to code the abundance into existence. Say for example, by taking advantage of spare car capacity and people's free time to sort of magic, a taxi service out of nothing into something. Now, we all know that's not how it happened, but from the perspective of this article, basically it was like, there appeared to be this magic trick, uh, that people bought into and then gladly had their royalist lifestyles subsidized, living like kings high on the
Starting point is 00:51:10 hog. Um, and I think it's just, it talks about, right? Like, well, yeah, now the average Uber or Lyft ride costs 40% more than it did a year ago. Um, and then are they just coming to the realization now at the great lady that, uh, these companies were engaging in dumping in order to, um, gain market share. I'm not entirely sure, right? And there is this idea right that, well, now having gained market share, they are having,
Starting point is 00:51:35 they are now must be unprofitable. Their investors are saying be profitable. And you know, that's not the whole story. It's partly because a lot of investors think of realize that the best way to get money isn't to provide a service at all. It's just to sit on assets and let the prices inflate. But also right, like he says, um, uh, he says basically that it's good that these subsidies have gone away, uh, because that these things should be expensive.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah. For like moral reasons. And again, they should be expensive. And he's saying they should be more expensive. And it's like, yeah, they should be, I don't know, it is, it is a lot of labor that like for a guy to like bring, uh, I don't know, for a guy to go to the grocery store and get a thing for you and bring it over to you. It's, it's hard work.
Starting point is 00:52:15 It takes a long time. It takes, yeah. I get the sense that his objection is less about like compensation for labor and more about you are becoming a sort of Saudi monarch by being driven around. And I thought it was a Prius. So I'm going to ask you a question. I mean, I want your first reaction to this. Does he mention, uh, the New York city cooperative competitor to Uber that is in fact much cheaper
Starting point is 00:52:37 than Uber and is owned by its drivers? Oh, I'm certain that he does. Yo, let me just, let me just search co-op or no, there's no mention of the word cooperative in the article. I thought the only way to like crush prices was to like ruthlessly exploit labor. Yeah. Cause you'd think if you were writing an article about the demise of the millennial lifestyle subsidy, because investors are no longer funding your decadent lifestyle, you might
Starting point is 00:53:06 be at least a little bit interested in the fact that a worker's co-op has been able to offer a high quality service for less money, but it's weird. It appears nowhere in any of the text of the article. That's odd. Which you think you think, I mean, I'm an era, I presume. It's, it's like the vibe of this appears to be like, well, it seems to me like the economy has decoupled from any sort of reason or like economic understanding of how the line should work.
Starting point is 00:53:39 So clearly what's got to happen now is it's all got to kick back into gear and everything's got to make sense again. If I like build enough of a functioning air traffic control tower out of this bamboo, eventually the cargo planes are going to come back. I'm certain of it. And he said, he says, like, you know, hiring a private driver to show you across Los Angeles during rush hour should cost more than $16 if everyone in that transaction is being fairly compensated.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And it's again, yes, it should, but you should also be, you know, you should probably have that $60 anyway, because you should be being fairly compensated for whatever it is you do. Yeah. There is this, there is this theme throughout the article that it's like, ah, you bourgeois decadent fools have received your comeuppance. And it's I think what, what you sort of really clearly notice is this idea that no, your life has been too good.
Starting point is 00:54:30 And again, yet your life has been good on the basis of like, yeah, the, I get the, the exploitation of people who are less able to, um, we're not able to like stand up to there who are working in worse conditions who are not able to unionize and so on, which, and which has only happened because of like tech investors beneficence. Yeah. But again, he says, ah, you know, the millennials have taken advantage of the tech investors for too long. And the tech investors have, that's the way that relationship is going a hundred percent
Starting point is 00:54:55 and the tech investors have wised up and they're, and they're no longer doing it. And again, there is this fucked up of this mailman to keep taking advantage of the dogs bike. And there is this, there is this sense though that again, there is that there is, it seems odd, right? If you're going to make the point throughout your article that, you know, um, if everyone in the transaction is being fairly compensated, it should cost more than $16 to get across to Angeles.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's like, oh, well, yes, but what couldn't the, um, couldn't the investors have, have properly compensated that person? Well, no, of course not. What about the driver's co-op that is properly compensating those people and does and is, um, you know, providing those cheaper rides? Ah, it doesn't bear a mention. Everyone just go back to how it was because that's the thing, right? No, make it make sense again.
Starting point is 00:55:35 If this was the end of the on demand economy, right, that the on demand economy came to this, which is all of these companies. And again, remember the point of how politics has been set up in the West since the 1990s has been, we need to make the smart people do code so that our problems are kind of hand waved away by the magic of computers, um, which is that if that happened, we did the, we did all the, the austerity policies. We basically made taxes non-existent. We created a million loopholes for people to get out of paying.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Then we slashed every entitlement program. We made sure that no one could organize in labor unions, all this stuff in the UK and the US. So that was the goal, right? And then we got there. We got to that economy where we had all of a sudden these industries being sort of magicked up from nothing, which again, we all knew, well, at least we knew sort of what they were the whole time.
Starting point is 00:56:29 And then Kevin- And we were able to figure that out from the, like the drawing room of Boodle. But then I think what leaves sort of Kevin Roos kind of so puzzled by this sort of understanding that, yes, this is weirdly artificially cheap, but it has to go back to how it was. Is that, well, wait, what was the point of all of the things we did to turn the economy this way? Because we basically re-shaped society in order to build, create, I don't know, an Uber flying car, because that was the theory of change.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And then we have it. And now that it's sort of come into contact with reality and money isn't free anymore. It just doesn't work. But it's like what things only worked in the fantasy of 2008 to 2012, or 2020, rather. I don't think that the villain here is sort of, you know, unthinking urban professionals, although it is, of course, funny to see them also get some comeuppance as well. Well, yeah, it sort of reflects a sort of weird thing where a lot of like these columnists and writers now have to reckon with the idea that like this kind of like tech-enabled free
Starting point is 00:57:33 market has been built on bullshit. And that was something that they had denied for a long time and people who would bring up these arguments saying that these tech companies don't make money and they are all kind of built on these very precarious models in which exploitation is a very fundamental part. We're sort of rejected as like Luddites and like anti-progress, anti-tech people. And now they have to reckon with this moment where they have to admit that, oh, these companies really suck and they have been very exploitative and yeah, but they can't
Starting point is 00:58:05 like admit that this is like a structural problem and this is like a structural problem that they like very much enabled through their sort of like tacit support. So now this isn't just like Kevin Roos. This is like a whole kind of wave of like columnists in the UK and in Europe who are basically saying that, oh, the actual problem is that millennials like these products too much and that like, you know, they, they're the ones who are kind of, you know, by taking more Uber rides in cities where like the, the only other option is to like own a car. They're actually causing the exploitation and they're the reason why there's this like
Starting point is 00:58:38 underclass of people that are alienated by like leftist politics and stuff like that. It's still kind of like, so it's still, it's this, it's this thing where like on the one hand I think these are like people who genuinely just like seeing young people being as miserable as possible. And in any way, so like even the kind of like the smallest amenities, like, you know, for example, like if you live in Los Angeles, like having, like having one Uber ride rather than taking two buses and a tram, like that can't happen, you know, they're really mad about that. But they're also kind of like, they just not really sure what to say now
Starting point is 00:59:10 that this economy that they had been heralding for a long time is like evidence that socialist politics was old and unnecessary, has like sort of like just shat in their faces. I think that that's right. And part of being a columnist is you'll never be able to see it because columnists can't recognize themselves in mirrors. That's right. They're like vampires. Yeah. Anyway, in the sense that they literally drink blood. I say, Glee Thorps. Anyway, speaking of blood, it looks as though my blood boiling has been completed so I can put down this big triangular Victorian weight and we can all exit the smoking room of bootles
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