TRASHFUTURE - The Feels in England

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

Britain continues to come crashing into contact with reality as the price of everything is going up, food rots in containers on both sides of the channel, and our entire political media ecosystem is wrapped in a spectacle of multilayered morality dramas about if the right people are feeling suitably guilty. What can we say but: "ahh, the British Isles." We did an episode about the Gamestop short squeeze, and it features @Quantian1 and @neoliberal_dad, two finance geniuses with a lot to say on the topic. Get it here on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46994566 We support the London Renters Union, which helps people defeat their slumlords and avoid eviction. If you want to support them as well, you can here: https://londonrentersunion.org/donate Here's a central location to donate to bail funds across the US to help people held under America's utterly inhumane system: https://bailproject.org/?form=donate *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind GYDS dot com). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

It's all buys and sells here in the trash future studio floor as we have a multi-colored jacket and waving paper around and oh look it's coming in wearing a jacket and talking into two phones. It's Alice. Yeah, I'm doing a vast amount of cocaine but something about what stocks though any you'll heard of Enron because I know doing that anyway and wandering in here off the street wearing a top hat with the pop topped up with the top popped off with the top topped off.

And coming in here topping off his pop it's Hussein. I would love to have a top hat I would love to just have a top hat or a fedora with like a feather on top so yeah we can make that happen I'm sure. There's any simps out there who want to like get me a gift soon. Yeah, HK get an Amazon wish list and it's all just like gentlemen's accessories. That'd be so cool ivory cufflings those two-tone shoes from the 20s. Off the back of all the stock market craziness that happened this week in time of recording last week when you're listening to this unless the craziness has kept on going.

Yeah, that's right. That's there's the door. That's the noise it makes the stock market noise the line is making right now. That's right. That's right. I think we're all going to do to memorialize this psychotic week is we are all going to start dressing like 18th century dandies. So spats, cravats, petticoats, a top hat for every day of the week.

Stop roasting my shoes. Those shoes are a good idea and I'm going to buy them. Invest in my spat-spack. That's very fun. So no, no, this is Trash Future, that podcast you're listening to right now. And we are going to be talking about the GameStop shenanigans and all the crazy shit that's been going on in the market in the bonus episode with our friend, with our friend, Quantian.

You have to pay us to hear it. Yeah, invest in the Trash Future Patreon. So we will get investment advice. It is not legally investment. I do not legally invest. I do not do not ever invest. Do not use it as investment advice. It's not the only advice we have is never invest.

Keep your money under our mattress. Just stop burying it and then holes in the ground. Yeah, do the Escobar and put in a big oil drum with one of your enemies. We're going to be talking all about that in the bonus with Quantian. That bonus is out right now. So if you feel like hearing us talk about stocks and finance with someone who knows what's going on. Quantian knows when it stonks and when it is not stonks. Exactly.

That's his main thing. That's his whole job. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so he is the guy from the meme. If you're wondering who Quantian is in real life, he's the guy with the really flat face from the meme. Yeah, so we will be speaking to him again. If you want to hear that now, you can go listen to that now and come back to this.

We will wait. Yeah, if you listen to that episode before the other one, that's technically called a Quantology. That's right. If you listen to that episode before this one, that's actually arbitrage and Robin Hood's going to shut down your podcast. That's right. Yeah, it's inside a trading.

Yeah. Okay, so let's... There's some more British stuff that's been happening. I feel like we haven't talked about British stuff. British stuff. I mean... When we say British, we know what that means, right? It means militarized buffrooms.

Actually, hang on. I've got some British stuff. I've got a startup. What do we want to talk about first? Let's do the star sub. Let's do the dessert before the vegetables race. All right, all right, all right. We're going to have podcast outside today and we're going to start with the startup.

That's right. The startup is called a Walking Duck. Oh, you're a harmonizer. Not a sitting duck. No, not a sitting duck. A walking duck. Walking duck. I'll tell you this right now.

It's supposed to be the opposite of a lame duck. Okay. So it gives the president stuff to do in the last few months of his term. But the thing is, the opposite of a lame duck wouldn't be a walking duck because ducks, their primary means of conveyance is flying. Like they're bad at walking. Yeah, all swimming. They suck at walking.

Like they do it very slowly and awkwardly. They look stupid. Are you suggesting that potentially this startup might be an ill-conceived stupid idea that is many of us suggest that, Riley? You know, this is an investment podcast and what we do is recommend startups that you should invest in. That's right. The irony is actually you should invest in all the startups we talk about on the show

because more idiots are going to buy the shares at a higher price after we have talked about them. Like definitely. They will all increase in value. They're dumb ideas. No, you should not invest in anything. What we're going to do is we're going to list a bunch of meme stocks that we think it would be funny to invest in and then do not invest in them.

Or if you do, don't invest in them because of us. Legally, we can say it would be funny. We cannot say it would profit you. Okay, so it's called walking duck. Hussein, what do you think walking duck is? Oh, man. So, like, look, if a sitting duck is kind of vulnerable to it. I mean, I'm actually sort of like at NSWIS.

I, a part of me is kind of saying that is it just kind of like some weird fashion brand? It is a brand, but it's a fashion brand. And is it kind of something to do with like security or cyber security? No. Your property will be protected by a single duck which will walk around it wearing hives. Untiled duck? Alice, any guesses? Oh, god.

Walking duck, walking duck. Give me something else. Give me some more details. Okay, because the moment I give you any, it has, it is such a thin premise. Okay. There's one funny thing about it that I want to get to. So, I'm going to, I'm just going to unload you what the premise is right now. Can any news organization bridge the separate realities that the right, left and the right seem

to occupy you as part of these? Oh, again. Not one of these. Wasn't, it's walking towards this media. Wasn't there like, yeah, wasn't there already like a start-up that we did but tried to do this? I'm heard was kind of doing this, but there was another one too. That thing was like, this was like a tap company. And what it was supposed to do was like, it was supposed to kind of, it took all the kind

of inaccurate things from left media and inaccurate things from right media. And then its solution would be sort of like the midway point, which is deemed like the accurate. Oh, yeah. That was a different, that wasn't tortoise. That was a different thing. I don't remember. I think that was the one that was like, that we did that one with philosophy too. But there's, there's, there's like,

What if it was a duck website? Yeah, but there's like an entire genre of like news out and news and media companies that like have constantly tried to do this and they've either all ended up as unheard, like places that are kind of mostly right-wing, very like kind of reactionary and also like promote a lot of conspiracy theories without like, you know, but it's sort of like, it's like gentrified conspiracy theories. Well, here's, here's a little more detail about walking duck and who's saying that's, that's absolutely right.

And if you want to know, wonder whether or not this is going to just fall into a very, you might say, again, at number one, the idea that an ideologically neutral op-ed page is the solution to anything is very stupid. But number two, the other thing is you have to remember is that this startup is the barest whisper of a premise because it's just a website and like a tweet aggregator and a newsletter. That once was a dream and was the incredibly live op-ed page, but you could only whisper it. And so, Walking Duck was founded by Mark Halperin.

Oh, go on. And Halperin is far away from California. Sorry, I should say Walking Duck was founded by Disgraced Mark Halperin. I was about to say. Disgraced former Mark Halperin, Mark Halperin. It was founded by a disgraced ABC journalist and current Newsmax host, Mark Halperin. Newsmax. Well, the news is to the max.

Super trusty Newsmax is. He was like one. Mark Halperin was one of the first media me too guys, right? Like, I'm trying to, he was like, he put his dick on a woman's shoulder is the one I remember. There was a bunch of other stuff, but he like, he came up behind an intern and just like, laid his dick on her shoulder. Why does that seem like a Mason's thing? Why?

It feels like an initiation. It sounds like something that would happen like a Bullington Club initiative. He would like roll up one sleeve and then like, shake the dick. I'm sorry. I thought you were a pig. So basically, yeah, Disgraced former journalist and current again, like Newsmax host, which is one of the news and Newsmax is one of the news outlets that Trump still likes. And I mean, again, right?

This whole like, if you make accusations against man and destroys their career, well, kind of evidently not, right? It just shifts them into a slightly more grifty one. It doesn't destroy their career if they're rich and powerful already. It destroys their career if they're like someone. The irony is that it only holds the not powerful to account. The branding. Oh, no, that's the opposite of what we wanted.

So Mark, Mark Halperin, as well as Paul and Audra Wilkie, who are backing it with their firm upright position communication. Excuse me. A legitimate businessman social club. No, nothing going on here. PR and communications. So while the startup is producing, their website is barely anything. So this is just from TechCrunch.

While the startup is producing a variety of content and events, including virtual town halls, there are three main pieces to the walking duck strategy at launch. The walking duck website, which aggregates news from other publications with additional commentary. And boy, have I captured some of the additional commentary. Plus Mark Halperin's personal newsletter, The Wide World of News. Oh, man. I love the wide world of news.

I love the news. You're fucking winding me up. The Wide World of News. The World Wide News. The Beltway Garage. And his Newsmax show, Mark Halperin's focus group. Oh, fuck no. This is just such transparently nonsense.

Wank shit. I should have focused group this fucking idea. Yeah, right. Rack off me fucking podcast. So they say that they're unique because they have a show. If I guess focus group brings four brings four Trump voters and four Biden voters from across the country over Zoom. And it has them attempt to find common ground.

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. That's effectively that is that is the content produced by that is exactly the same as when they get dementia sufferers together to have a little chit chat to kind of get their mind active, right? Like that's exactly the same as going to one of those groups and just looking on. So essentially what we have here is we have a disgraced journalist bothering some normal people and we've dressed it up as a startup

with a PR firm is dressed it up as a tech startup. And I think that's very funny. Oh, but what I think is most funny about walking duck is not it's a completely insane concept. They're bits of commentary on the news. That's what we need. Okay. If there's any news needs, it's more commentary.

That's right. That's right. No, that's right. It is good. It is good to comment on the news. It's a valuable way to contribute to society. That's right. Except in this case.

Yes. So I've opened up the walking duck website. In fact, I'm just going to put it in the. I'm going to put it in the Twitter chat right now. I'm going to put it in shame clown. That's the name of our group. Dm is named shame clown. That's right.

And then I can't even remember why it was something someone said tonight. Yeah, it was funny. So Milo funny. It's not anymore. Please look at walking duck.com. This is their website. It's a tech company. It appears to be a no to no.

Now that's a great. It appears to be a little little like a category cards that link to tweets. So it's like a it's like a Twitter. It's like a it's like a tweet deck. What if Twitter was on a bad website? But then there's a little thing that says the duck says. Oh, no. Oh, honey.

Oh, come on. So let's see. Some of the things the duck says like on Trump and impeachment, the duck says just it's the summary is just Democrats are considering a one week impeachment trial since your resolution after GOP singles are likely a quiddle of Trump. So some of them are serious. Duck we got to get back to like news and briefs from from page three. Yeah, that ruled would be better.

So then here's another is another couple ones though. For business in the economy, the duck says when I walk into a drug store, buy some chapstick, pay by credit card and say, put it on my chapstick for it doesn't have lips. And say put it on my bill. I'm content to knowing interest rates aren't on the rise. Wait. So the joke is put it on my bill because he's a duck. But the fact that he's aware that he has a bill and not lips suggests that he shouldn't

be buying the chapstick. He's buying it for his mistress. Is he dissociated? Maybe he's a French duck. Yeah, maybe. Here's another. He's a la range at all times. He's another really fun one.

This is this is under world news. Okay. Sometimes I quote unquote duck out of the pond for a few days. But if I've gone for a year, call the authorities because something is a Sunder. A Sunder. I don't know. I'm not sure you can use a Sunder like that. I know that could have been like rent a Sunder.

Yeah. This is something is something is a part. Yeah. I don't get that. Unfortunately, I encountered some French chefs on my way to buy chapstick and now I am patty. This is this is quite this is quite literally as impenetrable as the Lexaquilla. That's right. What else do we have?

Tech. The duck says Silicon Valley went from being the quote unquote it place to be to being the regional equivalent of a super fun cleanup site. Turns out ducks who can fly away have. Oh, damn. That's crazy. Do you know what this kind of reminds me of? It reminds me of like, so there's this bit in the IT crowd.

The sad one of the kind of unfortunately Graham Linnahan related shows that. Before Graham Linnahan lost his mind. Before he lost his mind. He was actually like quite a good comedy writer. And there's like a TikTok now, by the way. Oh, man. He's on TikTok and he's trying to get the teens to like embrace his his way of thinking and he's just getting owned.

Mum's talk. Is he doing like duets with like, I don't know, like Lil Xam. Oh my god, we need a right wing TikTok. That would be so cool. No, we don't. We don't need a right wing TikTok. Anyway, what I was going to say was this reminds me of this IT crowd episode where I think Moss is like, who's like the nerdy kind of IT worker.

He uses this website where a computer just generates like talking points about football matches so he can sound like one of the blokes. And this sort of just reminds me of like, okay, well, if like, you know, this is just like a very it's a very weird generic thing that like, if I wanted to sound smart to a certain group of kind of imagined centrist, and maybe I would save us. But the problem is, is that again, like this is one of those news, like aggregation systems that completely misunderstands its audience on the basis that they assume that like, the people who they want their targeting aren't already kind of like, and very happily reading

all this stuff to begin with and that's like, yeah, it's definitely one of those things where it's like, well, who are you trying? Are you are you trying to like talk to people who just literally can't be bothered and want like a snapshot? Or, you know, because it's not just a summary, it's sort of like, it's also kind of like op-pining. I don't know. I don't know if that like makes any sense. But it's just, I think, I think the thing to one of the things I like to think about with with stuff we talk about is, who is this for? And what's it doing? And this is clearly, my theory is potentially like, Mark Halperin has something over this married couple of PR IPO

gurus. He's standing there with his dick on their shoulder being like type. And like, I was gonna say, maybe he's like a third in their marriage. I don't know. But what I do know, what I do know is that this is perhaps one of the cutest ideas I've ever seen from 2004. One thing we love in this in this polycule, and it's sucking fucking and ducking. So like, if only we'd done this in 2004, we would have de-radicalized everybody and it would have been fine. Everyone would have become Nazis because of they got radicalized on the walking dust. Right. In the good news section of this website or whatever, which again,

it's like a good tell of like how this is something that this is a technology that like is very sort of 2004 ask and the whole like, you know, good news, good news newspapers and stuff. So it just kind of like aggregates a few kind of just like, you know, it advocates like a aggregate say like duck video, you know, just a couple of like, you know, nonsense stories. The duck says a bread bowl glove for my coffee is nice, but a Danish glove for my coffee. Now that would be good news. And I'm just, it sounds, that's the news. That's what's going on. People want to know what's going on. It seems like you don't like the news to say and that's the vibe I'm getting from you. People want to like, I don't know, but this is the term Danish

glove sounds really weird. Yeah, it sounds like a euphemism for some incredibly depraved sex act. Mark Halperin court giving one of his interns a Danish glove. Yeah, like you're fucking a hot, a hot pocket, but it's full of ludafisk. It's just when you come in somebody's gloves. And then there's like one final block versus blank. Yeah. And then Mark, we come in our gloves to keep their hands warm. All right. So I think that's like, there's very little left in walking duck as conceptually very thin as I told you. I just really loved those little, the duck says sound bites. Yeah, not to be confused with peaking duck. Also, before we get to British stuff,

did you all, did you all see what's happening with Leon Black? What's happening with Leon Black? No, I am very happy. I am very happy and fulfilled in my life. I do not, I do not intend to take my own life if I do it. If I do investigate, yeah, miles away. So basically, it turns out that Leon Black's private equity firm paid $158 million to Jeffrey Epstein from 2012 to 2017. And everyone was like, huh, Sam Hill wonder why he went ahead and did that. And weird how the reference on the transfer is pedophilia services. That's fine. You just have to put that for tax. It's fine. It's not actually what it is. Well, it was related to tax because he was saying, oh, fuck, his tax deduct. No, he was basically

saying that technically I use this mosque as an office for my pedophilia business. So I can get a deduction on it. So basically Leon Black says that Epstein was his high priced advisor on issues raising, ranging from audits by the tax authorities, management of his yacht and private plane, and dispute over the ownership of a Picasso sculpture, which again is odd because usually Epstein is an expert on like who owns things. No, it's because ordinarily someone at the pinnacle of their field like he was supposed to be is super good at one thing. He's not also a tax accountant and a stock guru and an art arbitrage owner. Yeah. He was so crucially, I cannot stress this enough. Also a pedophile. Yeah. Epstein is welcome to sue us.

Wait a second. We're getting a summons from Serbia. So over two decades to the New York Times, Mr. Black confided in Epstein regarding personal matters. I'm sure he did leaned on him as an architect of and strict taskmaster for the private office that manages investments. The men socialized in held meetings at Epstein's Caribbean Islands and his other properties in throughout the world. The pair last spoke in 2018 after Epstein sent emails that made what were called by Mr. Black's lawyers quote unsubstantiated work that he had performed for Mr. Black and demanded more cash. I wonder why he would do that. And I also wonder why he would then give him money if they were unsubstantiated.

Unsubstantiated? Well, I hate it when I just do some work for somebody for free. And then when I tell them about it, they're like, oh, yeah, you didn't do this. Riley, can you just, did he receive these requests in the mail? What color was that mail? Based on what happened here is that Epstein basically said according to a report by Apollo's lawyers that he would quote, Epstein would quote, reference personal matters that Black had shared with Epstein in confidence in an attempt to extort more money from them. That's not cool. That's a weird way to call it. Yeah.

But they also wrote the pro code. And that was really his greatest defense. They also know that their report added there is no evidence that any of these matters had any relationship to any of Epstein's criminal of activity or of any Black of Black's payments to Epstein. Okay. Case closed. It's all just a massive coincidence. Epstein had a really, really intense pre-woke period on his old lock Twitter account. That's right. Yeah. That's right. And I should clarify that the mail said to Black. It wasn't Black Mail. It was addressed to someone called Blasov for that confusion. It's Black Space Mail. So what basically what I think is really funny here though

is they were like had to come up with all of this shit that Epstein was supposedly doing for them. So they just ended up with this laundry list of things that involve like massive tax avoidance, which again, probably true because and then they note that Epstein would Epstein like I was at the root of all these brilliant ideas, but also like always stole the like took credit for the work of others. That's right. I'm really starting to dislike this Jeffrey Epstein guy. Seems like a kind of a dick. Jeffrey Epstein wasn't even a successful pedophile. He was actually he was like just stealing clout from someone. There's like a Nikola Tesla of pedophilia. He was like the Hansung hero of Jeffrey world hero. What's funny about this,

I think, is just is just like scrambling to just come on, invent something he did. Invent something he did. What did he do? What did he do? Ah, tax. He did our tax stuff. But what wasn't he like an investment guru? No, he was a tax guru as well and a statue ownership guru. Whatever. That's why we paid him $158 million. Wasn't he just, you know, a high school math teacher? I'm just a high school math teacher. That's very anti worker of you, Alan. Excuse me. Yeah, I'm sorry. Be better. Okay. Finally, we found a teacher who wants to reopen the schools. So some of Epstein's ideas were uniquely creative and useful. People with the familiar with the work told told the lawyers. However,

noting earlier in the article, he said he would often just steal ideas from other people. In particular, he could motivate black to concentrate on certain family office issues in a way that others could not motivate. That's an interesting choice. Hiring a motivational pedophile to blackmail you is the funniest thing. It's like a personal trainer. They help you really push through your goals by threatening to allegedly expose your alleged misdeeds. If you don't, I mean, going to your child's parents evening, you'll be like, oh, no, don't worry. This is just my motivational pedophile. This is my service pedophile. They remind you of the glory of childhood wonder when you've lost it in the realm of work and

the grind of the nine to five. They remind you that there's an inner child inside you that deserves to be touched once in a while. Leon Black had to be motivated extra hard to keep holding GameStop, which is I assume how he made his money. So I just thought I thought that was, let's say the subtext of that New York Times story was particularly funny. I find it very funny the way they kind of led with the like, yeah, he was my tax and statue guy. So of course I went and hung out with him on his pedophilia island. What you have to understand is that the time it wasn't known as his pedophilia island. No, statue island. Yeah, I don't put this past rich guys. I thought all those children were statues.

That was my understanding. I don't put this. I don't put something like, oh yeah, I'm going to go hang out on my statue guys private island past any of these monsters. Like literally like falling for kind of like ancient Greek like myth level traps. Like, would you like to come and hang out on my statue island? Sure. What could go wrong? Very ancient Greece. Every island was a pedophilia island. And a statue island. And a statue island. Yeah. It was just a great taste. Alright, we've come to a synthesis here, which is the more statues you have, the more pedophilia you do. Which is why we're trying to get rid of them in Britain.

I've been saying this many times. Speaking of Britain, there's another trend I've noticed in Britain, right? I want to talk about some of the like, a little like Brexit. How are we doing review? You know, how are we doing checking that? Have you taken your pills? Have you drunk water today? Yeah. Remember to love yourself. That's right. No. So remember the episode we did about like right wing alternative tech ecosystem? Yeah, like right wing tick tock, which is going to be a thing kind of emerging now. But right wing British civil society, like not that British civil society institutions aren't already incredibly like, you know, reactionary and ghoulish, but like further right wing ones are starting to emerge. They're like

cool. There's two. So we've all seen, I think, probably counterweight, which is a citizens advice bureau for, you know, Mark Halperin, basically. If you've been canceled by the woke mob and the free speech union hasn't managed it. Nice reputation you got there would be a shame of something more to happen. That's right. I noticed that you've not been put in any exes at the end of it. Okay. Now I'm a legitimate businessman, but some people they might take exception to that business person. I think you'll find woke mafia. I'm a legitimate business mooks. He's a rix. I'm a waste management specialist. Actually, I'm a waste person meant specialist. Nice. Very good. So let's talk about this. Counterweight is a citizens advice bureau for

people who are feeling silenced by the woke agenda at work. I'm feeling silenced. So it's like, is it the normal citizens advice bureau, which is a place where you can go to like ask about like debt consolidation or how to get on the electoral register. And then there's counterweight style podcast. Then there's counterweight, which is a citizens advice bureau for like, if you're worried, you won't be able to say the word anymore. Yeah. Or they're going to tell you to stop jerking off in your coworkers gloves. My boss keeps telling me about my ajiago hoodie is inappropriate to wear, you know, to, to, to wear in meetings. And quite frankly, that is a, that is an attack on both me and my culture. Oh shit. It was created by Helen Pluckrose, one of the,

one of the like, one of the people who's constantly complaining on the internet about grievance studies. Oh, sure. Oh, my goodness. What's interesting is that like, they, that whole like, because she did this book with like James Lindsay and like, they've been, they've sort of been like at kind of the sea. They've done, their, their grift has always been like, you know, we're an academia, tangentially, and we can see the kind of like woke agenda corrupting academia, despite the fact that like neither of them have, I think held like professorial positions or have really been involved in any sort of like curricular formation. But their book around like, their book around kind of post, and I'd also like it, their book

around like how postmodernism is like, infected the arts and everything, where like, their analyses of postmodernism just like, are really bad and inaccurate, like as you'd expect. But they've had a falling out recently, because James Lindsay keeps kind of like posting cringe on the timeline. What kind of cringe? Just like, you have to kind of like, What's the normal? Yeah, you kind of have to look at his timeline, but like if someone like, so number one, so James Lindsay is like one of the biggest post, like posting brains online. So if you say anything to him, he will respond to you and he'll like quote tweet you, and he'll kind of like, so he'll respond

to anything that you send him. And even like people who like dunk on it, and he did this like video where he did like, did this kind of weird dance with like a giant Chinese sword in his driveway. I don't know if you guys have seen it. Cool. This guy sounds cool. That sounds cool. This guy sounds, I'd like a citizen's advice bureau to tell me where to find him. It looks very, it looks very, very funny. And there's lots of people that like sort of dunk on him because he just looks ridiculous in this video. But I feel like as the video sort of got circulated, he became worse. So he started like doing like your mum jokes to people. And he started talking about like, how big his dick is and how like, you know, he loves to kind of

show like, show how big his dick is. The real thing is talking about how small it is. And this confrontation, this is a confrontation or this tendency is directly confrontational to what Helen Pluckrose thinks like they should be doing. So she represents, I guess, in this sense, like the most like sensible side of this whole thing. So what Helen Pluckrose has said is, sorry, I don't care about the rights of corporations to impose their woke values on employees. So she says, I'm a leftist, which means she is the kind of leftist that you are when you have a brain hemorrhage. Oh, debt. Yeah. Because this is again, like, yeah, of course, like all of, we've talked about this a billion times. Yeah. Of course,

like, you know, when Lloyds Bank presents Pride Week, yeah, of course, it's disingenuous. But like also, you know, I don't see you standing up for the rights of Norman Finkelstein counterweight. So shut up. And they also won't stand up for the rights of gamers to re-institute the sexy Keanu Reeves into cyberpunk. Right. Let's all, there's another one as well though, which I saw in an Allison Pearson article, which is HRT heart, which is the right wing alternative to sage, because they don't like that sage keeps saying that COVID is happening. We're doing right wing science. Like, oh, you're asking all these scientists what's happening with the virus, but we have calipers. That's like a paramedic thing. They've just nicked their

name. There's also the estate agent's heart. What was, it's right wing Lysenkoism. That's what it is. What's Lysenkoism? Lysenkoism. It was the like Stalinist kind of evolutionary science where it was quasi Darwinian, but not really. And also you could kind of make crops grow better by doing dialectics to them. Yeah. It was basically, it's like just more evidence science, more evidence of the of like Britain and the and the U.S. by extension, but in this case, just Britain being sort of like a bad expensive version of the Soviet Union. We have our own Lysenkoism now. Awesome. Cool. In the article that Allison Pearson introduces this in, she's basically getting mad at the TV for like saying that

COVID is bad. She says, I switched channels in disgust, but how many frightened and impressionable viewers were paralyzed by this remorseless scare monger? What? Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. Why do you, why do you, why is that? Well, it's also like, right? Like the, all of the columnists, when we've said this, I think when we talked about like Ralphie Albert giving himself a heart attack with the news, they just mediate their entire life through the news and they just exist to consume news and they just want the news to make them happy because their entire experience of the entire world is based on just watching the news. So if the news says that COVID is gone, that they don't have to be anxious and worried anymore, the news can tell them that things are

nice. Why, why genuinely don't understand about these people? And like, this is a real, like normally I can pathologize whatever fucked up shit it is. What I genuinely don't understand with someone like this is how she's mad that via the news, she's found out that 100,000 people have died from COVID and she's like, this is scaremongering. And it's like, okay, what do you think those people have died of? Like, do you think they would otherwise have normally died? Like, what is your, what is your explanation? Well, yeah, they, they, they, they like genuinely say that they're like, you know, they're still kind of perpetuating the whole thing of like, oh, they all had like, you know, really severe underlying health issues, which again, is not

true. You know, you know, it's, it's quite, it's quite, it's really interesting, especially in the context of like, this ongoing debate about opening schools, closing schools, etc. That like, we keep like, the same debates keep happening around, you know, what constitutes a COVID death and what doesn't, as if like, we're not going to play out this thing of like, the schools are going to reopen and then like, all the kids are going to go in and then infections are going to rise, and then that will force club, that will force schools to get, you know, to close, and like, we'll just keep on having the same thing over and over and over again. Because all we can make is culture war. That's all we make.

What's also incredible about it is that the people who are always going like, in Britain particularly, oh, we need to, we need to end the lockdown, we need to get back to normal, are like the people who look like they would die the hardest from COVID. Like, these are like, like, oh, yeah, we need to end the lockdown and stop being such wooses, says the guy who was the first person in history to be diagnosed with gout of the pancreas. But what I think is interesting is, much like a lot of like, you know, British right-wing journalist, she has sort of accidentally said something correct and interpreted it in entirely the wrong way, which is this. She said, I'm angry, angry that night after night,

the BBC drives the juggernaut of panic straight into viewers homes. The juggernaut of panic. Join me in the juggernaut of panic. Yeah. That's how you know Gulk is British is that he exudes this energy. As you say, it's the juggernaut of panic for, you know, Virginia Woolf and what Adrian Stephen and all the other sort of Bloomsbury group to sort of trick their way onto by wearing blackface. Who's afraid of Virginia COVID? No, that this actually happened. So anyway, let's moving swiftly on. But what Alison Pearson has kind of got right is like,

yeah, this that most people sort of just experience experience the entire external world through a through a media that doesn't know how to do anything other than just make them anxious. But what she or her solution route is just like, be happier. Why can't you why can't you make me happy news? I'm looking forward to many, many more of these as everything gets progressively worse. I mean, this is essentially just like a distillation of coke, right? Yeah, it's coping and we see and we've seen this even with like the Brexit stuff too, like, you know, with the whole kind of, you know, with with all the news stories about like angry fishermen who like have are like dealing with like trucks of just rotting fish and like

eels and stuff, you know, and like cheese farmers and stuff like that. And just like view just kind of like just the realization that all the promises of like, yeah, things will be fine. And like, even with a trade deal, like, you know, everything's going to be, everything's going to be smooth. Like their response to kind of like angry, like people who voted for Brexit on the basis of these promises is not like addressing these problems, but either kind of engaging further into like culture wars around statues, which is kind of like the whole generic stuff, or just to basically say that like, oh, why don't you focus on the positive stop talking the country down, etc. Which I guess again, it's like another cultural right?

Yeah. There's no greater metaphor for Britain at the current moment than a truck full of rotting eels. Coked up eels. What about the 10,000 sex arses stuck at Calais? I still laugh at that. I think about that all the time. So I'm going to do a little more from Alison Pearson's article because this is very funny. I agree that there are so many positive statistics and stories which would bring much needed optimism to millions of battle weary Britons. Yeah, I actually 35,000 people tested positive, but you won't see that on the news. The rest only how about this? Only 35,000 people tested positive in a country of about 60 million. That's right. Let's see. She says, why doesn't the BBC ask why the UK doesn't publish

COVID recovery numbers? Probably because people would start kissing each other. I love this. Many telegraph readers are angry too. My wife and I have just calmed down sufficiently after the BBC news to email you wrote, John, like a fussy child. Oh, wow. I hate it when I have to calm down after the BBC news. That's the most British thing as well, right? Is writing an angry letter to the telegraph so a columnist can agree with you after pacing around your room because you're mad at the TV. My wife using the bellows from an old timey fire to blow Lordenham into my butt hole so that I can send an email. Let's see. This is fun. Did Clive Meary and his editor learn their skills

from drop the dead donkey the channel for sitcom? Oh, only the most topical of references here. When the fuck was this woman last engaged with reality like 1986 because that is like kind of where she's at with her. I love that. That was big like before I was born. You remember the character played by Stephen Tompkinson who always manufactured and quote bigged up his sensations. No, no, no. I remember it because it was getting on for 40 years ago. What the fuck are you talking about? I do, John. I do. It's like if you are above the age of 50 in this country, you just live in a different reality. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. This is where it's like I want the news to make me happy again like it did in the 90s. That's right. Things could only

get better. I want the news to make me happy. I want to watch new episodes of Only Fools and Horses, but where they're still young. Only Fools and Horses is good and based. We won't be decrying Only Fools and Horses on this episode. Or other things. Did somebody mention the music of Dereem? I love talking about those days. It was a crazy time before I became a renowned cosmologist. Anyway, so all of this is happening in the background, right? The sort of just you can just see that it's not even like the like the like sort of just the UK media is so much and political class indeed is fiddling. Well, Rome burns so much as they're just like, I don't know, playing a fart box or something like blowing it like fucking a sex art. The Kizoo. Well, Rome burns because

the I mean because the playing the music of extremely topical band Yazoo while Rome burns because the the what we have. Yeah, play playing the theremin. Well, Rome burns because we have we now have like in this in this climate where the concerns still seem to be around has woken us gone too far. And is that doesn't everyone fall asleep like me? Why are you awake while you're watching television? I fall asleep at 8 p.m. and that the BBC's coverage of the possibly worst except for the U.S. COVID death toll in the fucking world, right? Is just they should be a bit happier about it. And all of that is happening. Well, we're having. Well, the there's these assholes are still running interference for the Prime

Minister, who's now now saying, oh, p.m. reaches Apollo, p.m. issues apology and grateful nation accepts. It's so fucking cool, man. Where it's now the the it's all just poor Boris and at the same time at the same time, Labour is now preparing preparing people for a dismal showing at the May local elections. It's so cool. Like I went when they came out with the government did everything they could that fully jokified me. Like, I don't know. I've been through so many Batman characters at this point. I think I'm I've gone through like Batman, the Riddler, the Penguin, Solomon Grundy kill across like I am the Condiment King by popular demand. I am the fucking Condiment King. I just don't understand like how they can say that and say we did everything we could. It's

fucking insane. It's like it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't bear even the slightest resemblance to reality. Like to the point where even as an excuse, even as a like nakedly, we've got to come up with something to say that is like the worst thing you could possibly have said. Like not only because like other countries have just not had these problems because they did sensible things earlier on, even other countries would like relatively conservative governments like Australia. But because like Britain like openly as a strategy was like, we're not going to do everything we can. Like that was basically their stated thing. They're like, yeah, everyone's overreacting like we are going to try to make it so that Alison Pearson and like her readers aren't too freaked out by

us doing anything. And now they're freaked out by death toll. I was so freaking about this today and just the whole like, you know, because we have we receive these polls every so often on Twitter where like the conservative like the conservative kind of like are always sort of between 35 and I think now they've like at 40 or at least kind of like around about that. Boy too, I think. It depends what poll you look at, but they are hovering around 40 and Labour's hovering around 37. Which is basically to say that they'd have a pretty good shot at like another majority if like a general election was held like tomorrow or like a month from now and stuff like that. And British people demand debt. Yeah, there's this question about like, okay,

do the British people like hate the Labour Party so much that they're like willing to kind of die around like they would literally die in both of them. And then who's saying to answer your question? Yes. And I was thinking about like, well, I wonder whether like, I wonder whether like your austerity is and this the idea that like you had for this very long period of time been told that like anything that we could do to make things possibly better, we're not going to do because of austerity and we have to live live within our means and people who don't live within their means generally will die within our means in some cases. People who can't do that on like a personal level number one should not expect that we do that, but also should die rather than like expect any sort

of support. And because that was sort of like instilled through like the political system, like Labour was like very tamed by it even during the middle of band years and more importantly, like you had a media that was very complicit and accommodating in, you know, basically like perpetuating that. And we've sort of got to this point where there's a large wave of this country who literally can't imagine anything getting better. But moreover, like they've sort of been conditioned not to expect it. So even the idea of someone kind of saying, but hey, we could like do things a little better or, you know, with like actual hostility, not just not just apathy. And you know what they want? They don't. What they mostly want is they want the news to say

everything's fine. Right. They want to be told by the people whose job it has been to keep them like anxious and innervated and nervous for like what for like as long for as long as fucking the news has been around or action news anyway, to be nervous. They want those people to stop making them nervous, which is also why you end up getting like Guido folks post where anyone who's like even mildly critical of like the government strategy is kind of like they're immediately kind of like their histories are immediately like comb through. There was one that came out like today or maybe yesterday, well, like someone was called like a radical anti-borris centrist. Oh, yeah, fine.

That's just fucking words, bro. Someone else talked about how they have to like, yeah, you even hear the problem. I'm talking about the problem solving anti-government prejudice. Like it's just none of it is I have been discriminated against for the crime of being a person of government. Like saying the Tories suck is an anti-government prejudice because they refuse to fucking govern. I wish I wish they were a fucking government. They're not. They're just a bunch of guys who hang out in the government building and say stuff. They don't do anything. Government implies doing shit. Yeah, like I can't wait for fucking Prime Minister phase banks who's going to be like,

yo, you guys want to live? Why? So you can like hang out with dudes sounds pretty gay. Um, and also you could also have a little bit of a Brexit review here for us, right? Oh, um, the Brexit reviews that you can you can EU artists can no longer a reciprocally tour. So this would have been the odds of them kill them all. They're gay would have been a trivial signature, but it would have looked too much like freedom of movement. According to one unnamed source, the government of course, that's why your hand is blocking the clockheads can no longer play in Dartmouth. They can no longer do that grand reunion tour. I know it's a deep change. I don't really want to do I don't want to do the remaining X thing. We're like, uh,

we told you so. All the fish is rotting. You stupid fishermen. Yeah, we told you about your sex arses and yet you and yet missed the sex arse sales when you voted for Brexit. Yeah. And again, I thought it was going to be great for sex arses. I thought I was going to be selling sex arses in China where they manufacture, but it turns out they don't need sex arses in China because they're busy with whatever it is they do over there. So now all the sex arses I was previously selling to the duchy were fucking perfect. I can't sell them anymore just because they wanted control back. I mean, that's the thing, right? Like I think there is this massive sort of impetus, especially in British media culture, because this is one of the most

media saturated, at least media savvy places I've ever heard of. There is this idea somehow that, um, that it was all about the subtle, it was number one, it was a moral test. And so if your fish is rotting, fuck off, or if your town voted to leave and now you don't have any qualmers coming through, fuck you. There is this idea of like, again, this has to be a morality play. There is also this idea, um, that like it can be a redemption story because you realize that you believe, you now believe something, but again, it's just, it is more just spectacle. It is the constant continuation of the spectacle. And the spectacle has essentially, you know, turned to, has turned to one of, um, I get continued

reluctance to grasp reality on the part of the people who are governing us. Not because they're stupid, although they might be, I think in the case of Jacob Riesmog, they certainly are, but like to perform their function, they don't need to be smart. They don't need to be very clever. They're doing a very good job. It's just not a good job for you. And it's not a good job for the people who voted for them. And the, the loss of these, of these industries, it's just an expression of the power of the, of the sort of national id in this country as represented by capital. And like, uh, what the distinction that has been drawn is one that I think is helpful, not in terms of analysis of capitalism, but is helpful

in terms of an analysis of what's going on here is like the, um, the dirty versus clean capital, regulated industries versus unregulated industries. And again, it's all capitalism. I don't give a shit about it that much, but if you want to think about the schism in, in capital, like it goes to what we were talking about the Patrick Wyman, like regional, dirty, unregulated, exploitative, like extractive industries and then at national, national or international, co-ordinative, globalized, like more financialized industries and more polite as well and so on. Right. Like it just game stuff. It just goes to show the extent to which the former has been able to sort of seize control of the spectacle and is just sort of now running rough shot across,

up and down the island. And again, no, there is literally nobody. There is nobody in our absolute, in our failing edifice of a media, failing, who is very close to being able to grapple with what it means that a lot of people voted for something that is now destroying their livelihood other than this is a morality play or this is a redemption. Only in this country would the subject of media studies be a joke. Right. Oh, so media studies. Right. I don't think any other country in the world would take the idea of like studying what media does academically to be so intrinsically funny as Britain. And at the same time, it's also just like, yeah, like just like studying in general, I think is kind of like, yeah, absolutely. In this country,

violently anti-intellectual. Right. I called my son reading. I said, go back to your sex ass. I want to see that sex ass full of cum by the end of this week. Otherwise, I'm taking your books away. And I think there's, there is this, there's the, I noticed this, right? Well, I was reading up on some articles from this. And again, I've got a bunch of, I actually, I'm doing the, has a speech on note cards and the discards them. I actually have a bunch of like facts and figures that I realized I don't care about at all. I'm like about where, where, what industries are down by what amount. Fuck it. Don't care about that at all. Not important. It's window dressing. Get a bloom bug time. That's right. But one thing that struck me was this is regarding shipping, which ordinarily

would take the form of a truck goes to France, then goes to England, where it drives to Wales, then gets back on a ferry for Ireland. It's called the land bridge and it's more easy than shipping things overseas the whole way, apparently who knows. And freight companies are rejecting a bunch of contracts to take goods from France, the UK, because the border rules basically mean you're going to be late and if your cargo is fresh, it's going to expire. Truck full of rotting sex asses, which, oh, we should, we should, we shouldn't have harvested those from the corpses. We should just made them. We shouldn't have made these sex asses out of eel. That's right. But that's what the people like. They want to fuck the eel ass. Oh, the Dutch man,

where Virginia Crosby, a lawmaker with the Conservative Party said she expected that the fluctuations in transport patterns we're seeing at the moment will be short term, saying that the land bridge through England can't be beat. And it's like, but before they said that there would be no disruption. They said, if anything, things would get better immediately. And now they're saying that the things that are getting better aren't getting are just going to be bad. I didn't lie for a short time. And the idea, but the thing is, right? I can expo, I can expose that and I just read the news and Twitter like an idiot. And the fact that I that they're actually an idiot because you read the news and Twitter,

that is the issue. Yeah, it's also why you have clinical depression. Yeah, that's also true. But it doesn't, it doesn't matter that they've been lying the entire time. It doesn't matter that anybody is like expressing regrets about this because it's just the same thing as Alison Pearson getting mad because the TV is freaking her out. Because all of these things are so removed from the, not just the everyday experience of people because people certainly are experiencing it, but they're experiencing it through, through this just barrage of images. I think it's also just, I think there's also something to be said about like the kind of failure of the failure of like electoral politics means that different groups of people are sort of like retreating to

and like consistently referencing nostalgia as a way of kind of like orientating their existence, right? You know, if you look at kind of like all, like all the kind of like the people who are still kind of speaking highly about Brexit or kind of, you know, the people who are like, oh, yeah, things are going to be okay. Or like, you know, this was the best decision and all the kind of like Julia Hartley Brewer people like of worlds, like they, these are also people who are still kind of like harking back to the reason why they kind of so adamantly attached to culture was, is because effectively what they're trying to do is like fight for a world that maybe kind of existed, but has also been like romanticized and is basically a drawing of like things that are partly there,

but also partly imagined. You know, but that's not like very different to other forms of political expression, which are also kind of rooted in more contemporary forms of like pop culture. You know, like lots of kind of century, like lots of centuries and again, it's like very much rooted in like the 90s, right? Basically to say that like, I feel like even it's very hard to kind of like locate like a coherent, like not, I think like for lack of a better term is it's very difficult to like sort of locate anyone sort of advocating for like a new way of doing things that's like in the mainstream, right? So you basically, there's always all three bets, right? That's right. I mean, I mean, I mean, kind of we might talk about that, like when we do the episode.

But like the way that I've kind of been seeing things and the way that I've been sort of been like thinking about things is very much like you have like the two kind of like competing possible worlds of both like rooted in imagined like nostalgia lace, like imagined effectively like watercolor paintings. Yeah, this is we do want to live in this. That's the thing I think the best way to understand in Britain at Britain is that everyone wants to live in an image. It's just none of the images have anything to do with one another. And it's because this country is especially riven with different competing nostalgias that all suck and are all held by people who suck fucking. I really hope that this like I really hope that

this nostalgia for an imagined past isn't twinned with a revolutionary sentiment against extractive capital because that could be bad. Do you think that it might be combined with a kind of? Well, no, I think Britain is very much immune from a robust return to nature ideology. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone's two fucking eight trees. They came over and ever since trees have been here, the sex market industry has been going down a tube to be honest, mate. Yeah. Try to make a wooden sex sauce. Yeah. You can't do it. You get splinters in your knob. It's no good. All right. I've got an article I want to close this out on. There's no point to be made in this art. I mean, you could sort of incorporate it into the British

society is a never ending parade of awful images argument, but let's not. Let's just have some fun with it. Yeah. And not all of them are just pictures of Julia Harley-Brute. So our mother-in-law jokes, the thing of the past, not at Pixar writes Hadley Freeman in the Guardian. Oh, boy. Wow. I am. I am. I am strapped. I can't believe that Pixar hired Rodney Dangerfield. That's exciting. Okay. It's so fun. I was recently at a comedy show and a man said, take my wife. No, please take my wife. And I stormed out. Milo, that's what she's basically arguing. Awesome. Cool. Great. Love it. Love it. This is another one of those articles I have not edited out a single word from, not one word. This is everything. This is VSOP article.

It's always weird when a good film suddenly lets you down, like meeting someone at a party who you think might become a proper friend, then they turn around and fart. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We're quoting Hadley exactly. Sorry. I've misquoted her there. Then they turn around, bend over and fart. I see. That gives us that air of intention. Like in Amadeus. Yeah, exactly. So Hadley Freeman recently went to go see Salo. And she was like, I wouldn't post this in any presidential candidate. Like really? I expected better of you, man. For me, this happened. Man, dude.

Homes. Man, dude. I do want to see Hadley Freeman call somebody man. That's funny. I mean, I guess, I guess if I ever meet her, she could just do that for me. Yeah. So for me, this happened almost literally with Bridesmaids, a terrifically smart comedy about female friendship, aside from the scene in which all the women develop chronic and public diarrhea. Oh, no. I hate it was stereotyping women misogynistically by insinuating that they all have diarrhea. Really? That's really a stereotype that's held women back for centuries. That's why they're doing the bathroom crusade is because all women have diarrhea. Yeah, they don't want the trans women to know that the cis

women all have diarrhea. They're afraid that the trans women don't have it. Finally, I'm feeling validation. So I'm looking at the Bridesmaids, like synopsis on Wikipedia right now, and this is a movie that is directed by Paul Faig, and it features Melissa McCarthy and like a bunch of other like people who do the kind of sketch comedy stuff on like SNL. And she didn't and she thought that she wouldn't see any gags. I think it's really what I think about Hadley Freeman's sort of brand of criticism is just being like my brand of my brand of you know, social justice is that things should be nice and nothing should be gross and boys are gross. Yeah. Well, and also crucially, like the way that you do feminism is by always portraying

women as like beautiful dignified creatures and men as like kind of venal idiots. Yeah, because because this movie like prepared like on his poster, it basically says it basically presents itself as like a raw chicken. That was the tagline, that's what it's called. Kind of like a chick flick where the women like burp and drink beer and like shit and everything. So she wanted to go see a badass movie about women who don't. She wanted to see Lean in the Moon. Oh, I mean, it's just, it's just the classic, it's classic representation. It's the thing that makes Britain so fucking weird and bad is that like as as an island or a set of islands, we're like the bits of Micronesia full of Japanese

holdouts in the 70s, except it's like second wave feminists. And so this is a classic, this is straight out of 1974, where you're looking, where you're looking at the third wave feminist and you're going, well, that's not very respectable at all. It's very funny. I mean, Alice, this always just reminds me of that thing you said one day, which is like the British feminists logging on to to shout some transphobic slurs after a long day of trying to ban pornography. Yeah. And I think also it's the, it's, it's, I'll carry on in fact. No, no more takes. I'm going to carry on. And it happened with Booksmart, which zings subtle truths about dorky teenage girls aside from the pointless running joke about a female teacher sleeping with a student.

Don't you just love movies that celebrate women, but also gratuitously humiliate them? See, no comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Something that has never happened. A female teacher has never slept with a student. But also it's like comedy should be knock, knock jokes. According to this, it should be knock, knock jokes. Knock, knock. Who's there? A trans woman. Get out of my bathroom. Also, like, I bet that full fucking sucks. Booksmart's actually pretty funny. I like it. I don't know. Hadley Freeman's actually liked it. Exclusively doing knock, knock jokes, but on bathroom stall doors. Knock, knock. Who's there? Better be an adult human female. That's right. Now on to Sol, the new Pixar film streaming on Disney Plus and the first from the

studio. I bet Hadley's got some fucking thoughts about that one. It's not meant for you. You're supposed to be an adult. Stop watching cartoons, you fucking child. So it's now on to Sol, the new Pixar film streaming on Disney Plus and the first in the studio to feature primarily African-American characters. I feel so certain that Hadley is going to be so normal about this one. Third only to movies when American high schools and female friendship, but again, not female friendship where anything gross happens. I love Pixar. Toy Story up the Incredibles. You have the brain of a child. That's why you love it. Nothing puts me off an adult fast. This is Hadley Freeman's equivalent of bending over and farting in front of me.

If you're an adult who's like, I love Disney films and Pixar films. They're actually really smart. No, they're aimed at children and they put elements in them to make them tolerable to adults because adults have to watch them with their children. You're not supposed to really enjoy them. They are for fucking children grow up and they do love to really beat you over the fucking head with the narrative and the point though. So like you watch a happy Freeman. You watch it. You watch like a like a fucking Disney film or a Marvel movie or whatever, and you come away with it knowing exactly what you were supposed to learn. It's like a five paragraph essay. Yeah. So these films are the closest the modern age has to religious texts.

They teach us what they teach us how to live, how to feel. They reflect the best of us back to ourselves. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you having a stroke? They're the closest things to religious. The closest things we have to religious texts in modern society and no one no one has religious texts in modern society. Well, no, they have they have they have the movie up where the old man suffers a loss and has to learn specifically how to become good again by welcoming a young man into his flying house. Fat boy. Yeah. Well, what's the Pixar equivalent of the Quran? Actually up is technically a Hadith. Yeah, just just like what happened to a movie that's like ambiguous. Wrapping wrapping up carefully in my prayer mat that's covered in

hentai. Nothing can be ambiguous. Nothing can be upsetting. Everything has to be just exactly lined up, right? It has to be exactly lined up with what I think is shame if she applied this same logic to say gender. Oh, god, damn. Just the love like I honestly think that like in a very this is a bit of an Adam Curtis point, but in a very complex and dangerous world where you're worried about watching up at the grand mosque. If you're worried about stuff all the time, then it's very it's very comforting. It wasn't the only thing that went up because that day on the Nasdaq it's NYSE actually. It was it's very comforting to watch a nice story about people who uncomplicatedly like each other where you don't have to do the kind of mental processing

of stuff you have to do in the real world because you are not fit to be interacting with the real fucking world. Yeah. And that's why she doesn't ever and I respect Hadley Freeman for that. She just imagines things. It's it is it is this kind of like wishful liberalism that is the same thing that's it's the same feeling that inspired the Wuffa random. It's this it's the same thing that inspired that sort of yeah. It's it's it's all of that shit. It's all the same thing. It's all the same thing that was like I'm actually to the left of burning. I just think you know maybe an it's another candidate turn all of that shit. What was that? Trying to do an awful American voice. The awful American. I love that book. And so she goes on I had especially high hopes for

soul because people have been tweeting about how transcended it is obviously that should give you low hopes about a film. I don't understand how she's gone this far in life without understanding how anything works like if a film comes out and loads of idiots are tweeting stuff like it's so transcended that means it sucks that means it fucking sucks. Soul is about a jazz musician Joe who has a terrible accident just as he gets his big break. He starts to go up to the great beyond but despite his return to earth agrees to mentor a soul about about to be born in hopes of sneaking back himself. Joel is a Joe is assigned the notorious soul 22 whose constant negativity drove previous mentors including Muhammad Ali and Carl Jung to despair. Soul 22 is voiced by

Tina Fey and understandably given she's yet to be born. Joe asks why do you sound like a middle aged white woman. I just use this voice because it annoys people. Twenty two replies. It's very effective says Joe. Record screech. So that's just a regular Tina Fey joke. Tina Fey is great. That's Tina Fey's entire career is like making Hadley Freeman loves the titles of Tina Fey books and then that's it. She's like I love the title of the book, bossy pants. Time to not read it. That's right. Yeah. Why read a book when you could fuck this sex ass. But the joke isn't that she's like even inherently annoying, right? That's that people are very annoyed by. Yeah, but you shouldn't point that out. If you point that out, that's a sexist.

Oh, wait. She's saying she doesn't like this joke. No. Oh, okay. No, she doesn't care for it. Wow. So she's actually offended by that joke. Well, it should be literally take some doing to go into a cinema and not have the projectionist to be the person projecting the hardest. Yeah, the projectionist was kind of half arson at that day to be fair. Also, does Fey actually believe that her perfectly nice voice is annoying? Mind you, a running joke on the sitcom 30 Rock was about how fat and unattractive the very slim and pretty Fey is. OMG, Queen. Your voice is great. You calling Tina Fey a brick? Fey is so perhaps she has vocal as well as body dysmorphia.

Fucking awesome. That's not what dysmorphia is. Yeah. But nobody could find me or people like me annoying. Yeah. Yeah. It is astonishing. And then she goes into complaining about Karen and how Karen is anti-white woman, which I think we read a year ago. Again, the most Karen take would be to write an article in The Guardian about how Karen is. Also, it's all the shit. That's like 27 cycles ago. What the hell? Yeah. Remember when people are calling people Karen? Also, she says actually any woman who complains that maybe this term has become sexist is told

with impeccable, which trial logic that they are proving their own Karen-ness? So basically, again, it's like everything Hadley Freeman writes. It's just that everything should make me personally feel good and movies that don't make me personally feel good because they don't end with a congratulations Hadley. You're doing great. Like a sort of very personalized end of Evangelion are bad and they're bad for actually social justice universal reasons, not just because I have the brain of a Labrador and cannot process something like, I don't know, narrative ambiguity or even I can't process, you know, that that jokes might have a little bit more bite than fucking knock knock gags. Yeah. Because that, you know, that that's

calling me a Karen. And if you call me a Karen, that is metal vials. Absolutely. Oh, my. That's pretty cool, right? They say the midpoint of this is a running joke, like the one in Seoul, in which children are taught that middle-aged women are the worst. Alice, what you said about projecting, I think, is very much. Okay, look, the fact that your children hate you is your own fucking fault, Hadley. All of the garden polymers are hated by their families. What a perfect moment for me to walk back into the room. Truly, I must have known something. Even their souls are bad. A few decades ago, movies like Fried Green Tomatoes and Stealed Magnolia dismantled these obnoxious jives. Also, like, Stealed Magnolia is a movie.

Fried Green Tomatoes. Seriously referencing that film. I don't know that movie. I've seen it. It's a fine, it's an okay movie. I didn't really take much about gender away from it. I have to say. They say it revels in older women who fight back against ageism and sexism. But now Pixar of all studios endorses these tropes. Sometimes progress in one direction feels a lot like going into reverse in another. Why won't the baby movies be nicer about me in ways that I'm projecting onto them? I hate it when people do tropes about middle-aged women. I hate it when you get the middle-aged women conspiracy brought up again. Yeah, so cool. That's right. I believe all middle-aged women are actually from the center of the moon.

Yeah, that's right. And they're lizards who are controlling the global economy. That's it. Anyway, so that's where we are. That's where we are with the state of Britain, the state of the spectacle, and the state of everything. It's fucking awful. It's worse than usual. It's fucking awful here. Do not come here. The only thing I can say for Britain is that Hadley Freeman is not British. She's American. The Americans can fucking keep her. Is she actually American? Yeah, she is. Yeah, she's American. That is it. She's just British. She's just British by affect. I think she and I are both been warped by this country in different ways, by just living in it for a long enough time. And now we're in like a Stockholm syndrome

relationship with it. Yeah. Anyway, I think that's about time. It's about time for us here in the TF boat. The trading floor. No, we're on a trading floor today. So, speaking of the trading floor, don't forget. Time always mixing up my metaphors. The episode about GameStop and the markets and all that crazy shit with Quantien is out on the Patreon right now. So, five bucks a month sign up. There's a ton of other great content on there for you, such as Britnology and all of these. So, if you think the closing bell is ringing a little bit early for you on this content, don't worry. You can invest in the Patreon. That's right. Invest in the Patreon. It is a sure thing. It's a sure thing that you will get episodes. You'll get episodes. You will get

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