TRASHFUTURE - The Presidents Club: A Club for Presidents ft. Mic Wright and Niamh McIntyre

Episode Date: February 3, 2018

Howdy y'all. Welcome to your weekend Trashfuture. Join Riley (@raaleh), Hussein (@HKesvani), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), and our twitter friend Suze Marsupial (@suzemarsupial) filling in as fourth host to talk about the slimiest take on the President's Club from the slimiest journalist out there (Brendan O'Neill, of course) in the first half with journalists Niamh McIntyre (@Niamh_Mcintyre) and Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy). Audio goblins attacked the first segment, so we unfortunately lost our detailed discussion of Niamh's article on the sexualisation of the service industry, but expect that this week. In the second half, we discuss Mic's exposé on local councils and homelessness policy, the cult of homeownership, and the dumbest "tech" solution we've yet seen pointed at a problem of this magnitude. Niamh's article is here: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmqdy8/sexual-harassment-is-all-too-common-in-hospitality-work Mic's article is here: https://mic-wright-dl3y.squarespace.com/what-you-need-to-know/2018/1/13/homelessness Follow us on twitter @trashfuturepod Thanks to Jinsang for our theme song, herewego xoxo Riley

Hey, it's me, breaking in before the theme song. Yes, I know, I'm not the cool, wonderful beats of Jin Sang. We'll get to the episode in a moment, but this is just a content warning to anyone who doesn't want to hear about sexual violence and the president's club and so forth. We talk about that in the first half, so skip to minute 38, 40 or so, if you want to get straight to the bit where we talk about the housing market. Second, unfortunately, audio gremlins ate some of the first half, so we've lost our discussion with Neve McIntyre, journalist with Vice and The Guardian, who wrote extensively about, I feel like, the sexualization of the service industry. So we're going to be releasing that audio separately,

probably in the coming week. So look out for our interview with her, which is basically our real take of the president's club. Anyways, enjoy. Yo, I got a question for all the presidents, all the kings in the audience. I got a question, yo fellas, fellas, yo, when you meet a girl, and she's like in a tight black dress and matching underwear and high heels, and then you hold her hand while an old comedian tells, like, you know, jokes to the expense of the Polish on stage, and then you like chase her down a hallway, and then she chases you into a room, and then you chase her back down the hallway, and then a policeman chases you both down the hallway, and then you go into kiss her,

but actually it's like a pile of dynamite and a wig, and then you kiss the dynamite, and then it blows up and your face is backwards and covered in soot. Fellas, y'all kiss her to that at date. You really have to say when we start recording. I can't remember how many times I've said this. It's really, it's a fundamental part of everyone recording that we know. How long have you been doing this show? I don't know. I don't know anything. It was only when I sort of realized you were definitely doing a bit that I was like, we should probably just think he was reading from his dream diary again. No, I dream in Elmer Fudd, Daffy Duck situations, because ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be going off. The kings and queens are going off on the motherfucking president's

club today on Trash Future, the podcast about how, if we do not... Fuck, what's the intro again? If we do not implement fully automated luxury gay space communism, the future is and will be trash. I vaguely remember there was a stationary company, like this really like small stationary company, like Slough, and they had options for like subscriptions, and one of them was called the president's subscription. Yeah, I was going to say, it sounds kind of like an optional extra on a package holiday that your nan would take, doesn't it? Oh, we've got the president's club on the cruise. You get a free glass of chardonnay in the bar, and then you get a front row seat for Bobby Davrow. Anyway, I think, fucking, are we ready? Disney's hall of presidents, how to fucking go off?

Our podcast is about the delicate balance between woke, broken, choking stroke. Oh, we're going to get Hussein kicked out of the studio. I'm going to have to go to that fucking corporate space in Holborn. Yo, so speaking of Hussein, I'd say starting from my right, while starting from me, actually, I am Riley, you may remember me from all previous episodes of this podcast. You can find me on Twitter at ralat, r-a-l-e-h, my bad Twitter handle can't change it now. Hello, I'm Mick Rye. You can find me on Twitter as at brokenbottleboy, a name I decided when I was 14 years old and have stuck with ever since. I'm a

trash feature pod superfan who's been allowed to come on the show. Are you the Zoom user? And I'm not the Zoom user, although I did own a Zoom. It was a brown Zoom. It was very bad. We're getting so many questions from there. And I'm 34 years old, so in this context, I'm basically a geriatric. Mick sent us enough autographed dick pics that he was the winner. I won the prize. He sent us the first hundred dick pics and made it into a sort of a flickbook.

Hi, I'm Nev McIntyre. I'm a journalist and trash feature debutante this evening, which is very exciting. On Twitter, I'm at Nev McIntyre and Nev is N-I-A-M-H, because it's Irish and difficult to spell. Normal language. Yeah, we're actually presenting Nev at this expensive trash shooter party to various eligible men. I'm coming out into trash future society for the first time. I'm wearing a white dress. Don't tell the Gucci gang otherwise. No, I don't think that the trash future debutante ball you wear a dress.

I think you wear one of those like anime Hawaiian shirts that people wear, but like eight sizes too big so it drags in the ground. Hi, I'm Suze. I'm also on Twitter at Suze Marsupial. Suze like S-U-Z-E and Marsupial like animals with pockets. And I am not a journalist or an expert at all. I don't really know why I'm here, but I'm psyched. I also think the future is trash. Suze, that's exactly why you're here. This is actually your first... Think any of us know things?

No. Is this your like first podcast? I have never been on a podcast before. No. It all goes downhill. So it's blood in, blood out. My name is Nick Crompton. My call is St. Poppin. No, unfortunately... London is your city.

London is my city. No, it's England is my city. I'm not up on it. Again, I'm old. London like come town is a province. Look, my name is the same Kizvani. I have a verified tick. So do I. Everybody's got one now. Five times this evening.

I think that's it. I think that's pretty much the only interesting thing I have to say. I've been on exactly two dates. I've seen exactly one human breast. You can follow me at H. Kizvani for more of these takes and also fill out my poll about whether you weigh socks before you put on your trousers or afterwards. Always afterwards. Afterward. Before.

I got mad chicken. No, I put my socks on before. Yeah, for socks first. No, you're mad. Yeah, but what is the past situation? You're just wearing your pants. I always wear pants. And you put socks last.

Because nudity is not evil. I put socks on last. Well, all the content is canceled. This is now a socks cast. This is madness to me. Before we jump into the hashtag content, we got our man in the bowl. Yeah, your man in the bowl live from Los Angeles, California. It's me, Milo Edwards.

You can follow me at Milo underscore Edwards on Twitter. And I'm here to say that I will not pee in protest until Logan Paul is given back his YouTube red contract. All bros deserve a second chance. You're getting the status to own the lips. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

This is fake news because Milo and I haven't peed since the beginning of this year. So you can't all of a sudden say that like he's like he's doing it out of virtue. No, he's virtue signaling. Not what dry January means. I'm trying to I'm trying to kill two birds of one stone here. What I'm saying is if my bladder explodes, it's YouTube's fault. Shall we talk about the in just like absolute ridiculous shit that's been going on.

There's sort of that's come to light in London. It's it's it's not astonishing to me that this happened because all of these people are terrible toads. It's just I'm almost amazed that no one involved in the entire president's club debacle said maybe this is a bad idea right now. But isn't it like the people who went there have been like told that they have like the divine right to everything since they were like five years older at prep school.

So they probably really never have like encountered the idea that like something they want isn't a good idea. They've been doing this for years. Like at what like at what I think at what I don't I can't imagine a point at which I go oh it's a men only event. This sounds great and explicitly don't bring your partner. Say to my girlfriend by the way I'm going to a party and they've expressly told me on the invite that you are not welcome.

You are definitely not welcome. And I think people think that they can get away with it in some ways maybe because I don't know it'll be seen as like a relic that you know it's such like a text version of something that is subtext all the time that these are like men only spaces that it's so outrageous that maybe it'll be like charming or old world but it isn't right because the the kind of I guess subtext version of that like persists everywhere and in all spaces. So you know people will notice when it is that explicit and they will say something that that's true.

Who say tonight did come in here in matching black dresses and in sexy underwear. Well of course trash future is a don't bring your partner podcast because sex is wrong. Well because none of us have partners of course because we are cool internet people and also sex is her arm. So yeah we're the caliphate of Tower Hamlets. I mean as as podcasters we are used to going to all male events vote not really out of choice. But you know you know who does think that the president's club is just a charming bit. I guess of fun.

That's just it's a relic of an older generation and we shouldn't worry about it. Is it bringing shame on to all of Ireland. Is it Paul Joseph Watson. I mean he's got a view on this. It's out there. I mean he must be really conflicted right because you know all male highly misogynistic spaces he's presumably for but then you know it's like an elite event and he's super anti that. So where does he come down.

Well no he considers it an all lizard space. Ladies and gentlemen we are talking about Brendan O'Neill the world's worst person. Like like like I find it astonishing that spiked used to be called living Marxism because now it seems to me that it's just an alt right rag like the only horse shoe theory is spiked. The real horseshoe theory. So I've I've I've read his his article about it entitled that president's club dinner colon calm down everyone practically every Brendan piece is colon calm down or calm down women calm down and carry on harassing women.

I love that Brendan O'Neill strategy is to tell women to calm down a strategy that has worked in history a total of zero times as you want to you want to hear some Brendan O'Neill's I mean none of us want to hear Brendan O'Neill's takes but we're here at this podcast that's kind of the format. What is so weird about people like O'Neill though is you know they view themselves as these like Athenian debaters in this old model yet they're consistently so mad that there's a discourse at all like all they're ever really saying is no shut up stop talking enough of this discussion and you know which way do you want it.

Do you think Brendan wears his fedora when he writes. I mean I'll tell you I think he was a murkin posting I don't think I don't think he can write without it. Draws his power from the fedora if we can find the Horcrux if we can find the Brendan O'Neill Horcrux is we can destroy Brendan O'Neill. I mean that's what it is right we have we're we have to be on a mission to remove the fedora off his head and therefore get him to start thinking properly again. Well I can like convince a bunch of Twitter liberals that it's some Harry Potter shit then

they'll absolutely go for it. Like you remove his fedora and then you discover on the back of his head is just Paul Joseph Watson's face. Imagine my shot Milo Milo honestly shall we shall we get into this article I'm sorry yes get into the meat and potatoes or the the meat and potatoes sorry Brendan to offend your history a potatoes it's actually single it's latin one potato stop proving Pierre's point Milo that president's club dinner calm down everyone moral outrage is an insatiable beast apparently it needs daily feeding and heaven forbid that

outrage entrepreneurs which is a really cool tech way to describe like people being harassed those who derive their purpose in life from raging loudly against the wicked should be denied their fix the thing is Brendan literally is an outrage entrepreneur like he's the one like writing articles in the telegraph saying that like primary school teachers are banning white men from schools and like feeding your children halal turkey twizzlers and like whatever like he literally is an outrage on he said he's an irony loop that he's not aware of because all of his stuff is outrage about outrage that he's detected and also he also spends his whole time going everyone should have free speech but if for instance I say Brendan you're full of shit he

goes how dare you oppress my free speech I feel like if Brendan O'Neill was one of those like AI is developed by Google he would have been shut down by now for like going rogue and becoming incomprehensible and so it is that Britain's chattering class a 21st century world beater and moral outrage now moves with haste from fuming against politicians who briefly placed their hands on a woman's knee it's amazing that people still write these articles where they just snitch on themselves hugely like are we going to say that and then insert like some like definitely bad often criminal behavior is a bad thing it's like yes we are why do you continue to do this come on the sensorials liberals are against knife crime

this is my new website carrying a knife to own the lips um young women Brendan continues are in attendance to serve drinks and look good at this president's club dinner and let's face it flatter the egos of these probably quite portly aging men don't sign your tweets who would never catch the eye of a beautiful woman if they weren't rich and at this dinner rich men like to hang out together and be in the company of attractive women never well I was enjoying the like kind of sophistry sleight of hand that Brendan O'Neill is pulling here where he's where he's like conflating like people saying this is bad with people being at all surprised like if I said like oh the Saudis beheading people with swords again never and it's like no I'm not surprised they just shouldn't do it

like it's not I think you should look at the language that the businessmen at the president's club use about just businesses that they deal with right because they love to talk about they talk about hostile takeovers they let everything in business language is aggressive right like they talk about hostile takeovers all time and I know like let me sound weird to get obsessed with the language but I think the language matters because they basically think in the capitalist system they can buy anything so if they've got these women there and the company this company that have done this and they've done this loads with these events was talking to someone who's working on this story the ft this company is like this company is a it is pimps right and and like a sex worker

making a transaction I don't give a shit about but pimps are violent and they take the money from the person who does the service I think there was like so many articles that I read which described the waitresses being treated like prostitutes which is obviously then tacitly kind of like says that sex workers deserve to be assaulted and yeah in our current system sex workers would just never dream of like reporting an assault or a rape to the police because they're so criminalized in in so many other ways well it's the it's the I find it's so I get astonishing that like the sort of media libs not even Brendan O'Neill media libs will go through these like mental gymnastics to kind of only construe what they're doing in terms of condemning sex work they're like they

can't just make the simple point people were harassed and that's bad they have to say oh no this category of person was made to be this worse category of person because we're liberals and we believe that society is a chessboard and a bishop was treated like a pawn you broke the fucking rules man so I used to work at an agency kind of like the one described in the AFT article and to be honest in many ways I think it's really comparable to the situation with Deliver and Uber because the fundamental safety issue is that you are instantly disposable and so therefore if you complain about anything you know that you're risking your shift and also just generally your job and yeah I think actually I hadn't thought about it in in those terms but

it's probably probably something about the kind of but yeah the construction of gig economy in in popular because one of the one of the shitty takes that came out of this was like well these women are you know they're going to like a really high class event at a really nice hotel um they you know they'll get to schmooze with like really high up people they'll have loads of fun because they can drink on the job because that's what the contract says you're allowed to have a drink or two um and they're going to get paid a lot of money to do it so why should they make complaints like this that was like one of the genuine really shitty takes that came out of like just Twitter garbage yeah yeah yeah um yeah that's the yeah

classy like what about yeah they came back to this thing about like if you work in the gig economy right and you want us to take your woe seriously then you really have to be in the fucking gutter like you really have to be like living in some shitty council estate and like Uber driving from day to night and Brendan O'Neill has his own take on the people involved I'm so sorry we keep distracting from from the brilliant prose that you want to read guys the I mean honestly beauty I'm I'm so disappointed that you guys are distracting me from my true passion which is Brendan O'Neill slam poetry story time with Riley can I can I just share with you a really weird thing that just happened in this room so Emma is watching this film and

there's like a sort of sex scene going on in it it's we've only got it on with the subtitles and like the woman is like kneeling in front of the man and then it pans up to the man who's doing like an oh yeah face and then it pans back down and he's still got his trousers on and she's just like rubbing his stomach concentrically as though he might be like a good dog where did you get this footage of the president's club yeah I mean I think that is that is one of the things now back to the smart things I'm about to read a piece from a Brendan O'Neill article it's not getting smart or it's too smart for any of us no sorry yeah well because we don't watch rick we don't brain force you know he he takes brain force but you can like do a brain force speedball which is where

you snort a line of brain force plus while watching Rick and Morty yeah that seems correct oh yeah I actually only inject Rick and Morty because it hits you that way um so Brendan continues this is the worst thing about the moral outrage over the president's club the way it has infantilized the women involved never mind the insults it has thrown at the possibly sad or old-fashioned men who take part what it implicates about the women is far more foul with its depiction of them as hapless slave-like creatures needing to be saved oh it's like Brendan O'Neill nobody's written that nobody's written that he just invents stuff like I've had him he's written stuff about stuff I've written and he just reads what he wants to read nobody said that what I think is true I think happens is

that every time Brendan O'Neill goes to a crosswalk and like the green man isn't up and it's the red man he's like oh more since he's liberals needing to be saved from so-called car accidents you know you know you joke about that but actually you know at Charing Cross they have um the traffic lights and instead of having the green man and the red man they have a um well they put up the new lights in uh solidarity with the LGBT people so it shows like you know um you know they what are they called yeah the male female symbols all yeah the usual and there were actually like a bunch of like right-wing chuds who are really angry that like they had to cross the road while acknowledging like to the symbol of two men not sorry crossing the road is gay now we own that now like that you're

not getting that back you pick a side and you stay on that side the chicken that crossed the road is just a liberal look all I'm all I'm saying is that like I got hospitalized because I support patriarchy and the nuclear family and I'm proud of it well they even put the word trans into transport now that's when you know they've really got you what was wrong with regular old port that we used to have so I think that's like really it seems so strange that sort of according to the in the in the Bible of Brendan O'Neill no one is no one can sort of speak out against anything happening except Brendan O'Neill nothing can be bad or yeah exactly because it's the product of free people choosing to associate freely he also does something about lots of these like right-wing

people who get like columns in the spectator and stuff do which is that they yeah they they invent straw men right yeah they invent things that don't exist to kind of reinforce their argument so I've seen this like you know in light of all the stuff that's happened if like our friend of the show Jordan Peterson you know and all that stuff you know oh you know about like you know liberals love feminism so you know liberals like love feminism so much that I'm gonna you marry it you know sorry why don't you have a non-traditional commitment ceremony with feminism nerd but they say that men with like you know two phd's and like a ton of references in like google journals can't get jobs in universities like no one's saying that like

you know no one no no one has said that like you know and no and what really angers me about that is that no one like no one of significance really calls them up when they make statements like that so for so long like these guys have been able to like literally build careers out of basically bullshitting imagined conversations just like yeah you know and if and all I'm saying is that I wish that someone would pay me to write about the conversations I have with myself while I um don't pee yeah I mean from this article what I'm kind of getting about Brendan O'Neill is that I am sort of at this point 80 percent sure that he pees with his pants around his ankles and lifts his shirt above his nipples and like turns around just daring the liberals in the bathroom to ask

proud child hey you laugh you laugh at that but it is very liberating and I don't care what the security guards at London Bridge translation so no but um about straw man I think one of the most tedious things online straw people thank you is constantly um having to go along with like really like just stupid takes and like under researched or like poor quality things who's saying next time so they're part of the conversation and that can be like Brendan O'Neill or it can be like you know Louis Manch or Eric Garland or it can be any one of the many like professional media transphobes in this country and we always have to pick over the same ideas again and again and again as though they have any merit on any level and becomes like this oppressive

force after a while to just constantly be bombarded with that sludge and I think that's bad Riley I think it sucks is that wait sorry are you think the sludge is a slave-like thing that needs to be saved do you dare insult the sludge Brendan sludge is a russian scythe actually and you should take it very seriously Brendan O'Neill is all the sludge is bots and Louise can prove that and she's got a massive you adopted the sludge I was born in it no like Brendan O'Neill was built Brendan O'Neill was built by Russia to teach us all how to live Marxism I mean that could be a really good way is the riot queen Eric Garland the making of Brendan O'Neill no just like a net of theories about like how russians like how sinister russians built a columnist I mean you

but you say that as a joke but Russophobia is the next prestige content and it's going to be predictable and depressing and it's going to happen Pacific Rim too where it's just Brendan O'Neill shouting that the Pacific Rim monster things are being molly coddled by the state it like just come on it's what Sue said though like the you're right we shouldn't have to take those arguments seriously but on the other hand they have these massive megaphones and media companies and then so we have to because it's like Piers Morgan the morning of us recording this has just acclaimed that he's got Trump to apologize for something but actually Trump has said if I did this I would apologize that's not apology it's

like me like I come in I shit on your desk and I go if I've offended you by shitting on your desk I'm sorry about that I never apologize for shitting on your desk I completely agree don't get me wrong I'm not saying that you know I'm not saying no I wasn't you worry don't engage what I'm saying is that um shit that we have is it's shit that it keeps coming up and it's also it's shit that like it's never seems to be enough to say like no this opinion is like intellectually politically and morally beneath contempt so I'm gonna have to go into a conversation now that Brendan's made up and then I think we'll transition out of this article and into an actually good article cannot wait for Brendan's fanfic um Brendan's a working-class women fanfic here it comes

he ships working-class women in Brendan O'Neill I knew working-class women who temporarily traded on their looks to earn a living at least four of them he's been in a weather spoons he was in weather spoons once and he met a woman and they were the last people who needed looking after or rescue they knew exactly what they were doing and they developed the skills necessary to deal with dickheads wait he's got a shameless box they they were far more capable than many of today's media women who have recently made a national scandal of the fact that men touch their knees or ask them on dates now personally I know actually that in fact I don't know if you guys knew this about biology but like the head of the penis has like 10 000 nerve endings in it but a woman's knee

actually has millions that is correct um that's why take a knee take a knee my ass yes please touch a knee my ass I won't touch a knee I really wish you could see the face that I'm pulling at Riley but this is the face you pull whatever you like my posts and Brendan O'Neill knows these things because he's not wasted time on meeting women and he's used all that time on reading about them in various in various periodicals called things like phrenology today at the good housewife what is what is extremely good about right wing journalists is that they see any kind of like however informally self-organized kind of movement to you know do something better in the workplace or to get rights or towards liberation and they because they cannot remove themselves from this

like all seeing savior role of society they see people totally able to organize amongst themselves and to do things and to get their message out and whatever and they say oh you want to be saved I see oh oh so we're treating you as as a victim now and and you know someone has to come in and save you and it you know always says a lot more about them and how they view their own position than it does about what anybody is saying about themselves and the situation that they're in that's probably the that's the best analysis that we've had on this show but bearing in mind that all the analysis or right wing journalists we've had on this show are usually their chuds or they just or they the rp sitting down the uh the trials is completely down as bren and neo

neo of them no bren and neo neo shoes look like a you know what just just to settle this like I I want to talk about p for a second and I want to look at the best way to do it which is right you'll go go off king no no my lord please you've got it you've got it on someone's desk and you apologize but only because it's no p january who's saying turn your chair around a new straight talk okay so now I know what you mean um right so you sit down right take your trousers all the way to your ankles you take your shirt off uh you rub yourself in lavender oil light and candle or tea and you go do it yeah of course and that is the best way of p and then you turn east but as you leave you bounce the toilet whoa no you got to respect the toilet oh oh then

oh it looks like oh who's shamed the outrage brigade here to treat the toilet like a servant huh I mean I imagine that like if bright bar was spiked ever right about the show the headline will be left-wing podcast hosts advocates sit-down culture advocates a toilet our guys can we please stop kink shaming her say it's toilet it's into what it's into you have to get it has to be racial so they have to say left-wing podcast host advocates bizarre islamist toilet worship where's the lie that's all I'm gonna say so he's gonna have a really difficult time trying to defend me on you should sue for plagiarism when bright bar publishes that headline we're a smart show um that's funny that's funny what that's what brendon o'neill says every time

he leaves weatherspoon tonight uh in uh in holvins brendon o'neill goes to weatherspoons just holding up a sign that says I'm interesting you know what I imagine that brendon o'neill is a type of guy who like hangs out in the dark corner by weatherspoons with his fedora just tipped right and every time like a woman walks past and like she's about to make a cigarette but she realized just have a lighter he just shows up with like you know in the darkness like with the match like no no brendon my love brendon o'neill goes to light a woman's cigarette but his hand gets caught on his wallet chain and then he hits her in the face with his bus pass and then he goes home and writes 3 000 words about how back in the day women could light their own cigarettes and

if he meets a woman he doesn't know he refers to her as millenia like those schemes where like you can have an eld like a a lonely elderly person over for sunday lunch they should do that but for just like editors at spike they just have like brendon o'neill around your house and making for all valued I mean on the on the show we have said before that every right wing um every right wing columnist does have a wallet chain and a corn wallet I mean that's canon we know that to be true like like if brendon o'neill was to ever get married his first dance would be to that disturbed song where it goes you know the one I don't I'm gonna edit it in

he'd be doing that dance where you like you open and close your knees and switch your hands drowning how the bodies hit the floor no you know what it would be cut my life into pieces this is my last resort suffocation no breathing don't give a fuck you cut my life into pieces the left is too serious this is this is my last resort I fucked it whatever I edit it I can make myself look like writing for spikes is the last resort so it's thematically very consistent I remember I tried to I applied for an internship at spike did you read what I did I did I did you just destroyed the credibility of this podcast because you're a spiked reject I didn't do it last week brendon hire me but I take you all back all I'm saying is that if brendon is listening

my I'm still waiting for a response and you know what the media is like these days anyone can jump anywhere so um and I'm looking for somewhere to write anime reviews so once again once again I am told I can't get on the bus with my ask a Langley saw you body pillow what oh so much for the time yet another woman who's offended that I call my penis an entry plug look all I'm look all I'm saying is right that the fact that I was kicked out of Star Wars the last Jedi because I decided to share a kiss with my body pillow and and the cinema usher and the cinema usher said sir this is making people feel uncomfortable if you want to go out with if you want to like continue with it please do it outside and I had to say to him it's not an it it's a she

people in the street they tweeted me and they say sir sir your body pillow is a disgrace to the presidency sir it's a big beautiful pillow I love my curvy pillow and this is why sex is illegal brendon o'neill's concluding thoughts the problem isn't with the women out there presumably on the other end of the weather spoons where he's too afraid to well he's afraid to go is there afraid of him because he's naturally intimidating because he does brain force plus in rick and morty the problem isn't with the women nothing more intimidating than the women in weather spoons on a weekday afternoon the problem isn't with the women out there it's with the women and men in the political and media classes and also irony podcasters who have become so does it say that does it say

irony podcasters editorial in the media class irony comecasters please who have become so safe spaced and prudish that they think conversations are harassment and a come on is on a spectrum with rape I'm just so tired I'm so tired from you reading that sentence to me like it's the same like shitty bad faith self snitching take that has been online kind of forever and especially in the last like four or five months and it's I'm just so tired like yeah brendon o'neill into the sea so it's like you you can say these things in public all the time like or you can say that you're so much smarter than your readers and everyone else you cannot have it both ways like it's I think the really interesting thing is what this says to us about brendon o'neill

which is that I think he is just so his brain is so powerful that like when he like any time he sort of speaks to well anyone especially probably women that he he sort of goes up and he is alpha and gorilla mindset and something like this and they're so prudish uh they're like um I don't want it or like every time like I go on a date and a woman brings a drink testing kit what a fucking prude and I think it's just because whenever I buy a woman a drink I slips and brain force plus so she can be an interesting conversationalist Camilla Long who like owned herself multiple times during that whole thing so she started off by tweeting like oh this isn't actually a big deal it's just like rich men being rich men and then yeah it's a it's a that you could see the in the

original article it was that the the people serving were prepped that the men here are going to be annoying as though I'm again I'm walking home from the tube and someone steals my iPhone or whatever I'm like oh how annoying right um but also long's whole thing was that oh this is about sex so like any any attention this gets is because people are like prurient and they just want to read about sex all the time and uh then she was so surprised when it turns out that loads and loads of people actually care about like labour and you know power and elitism and so people were really interested in the story um I don't think she really figured that out and I think that's maybe like maybe there's various this thing about like being comfortable with power right so the people

who are like who even like so in Brendan's case like I don't imagine that he goes to these types of events like you imagine that like he really really wants to be invited like he wants to be like you know he fantasises about being like the Christopher Hitchens you know goes to all the fancy literary parties where all this shit happens and where he doesn't have to sniff Brainforce Plus because they actually have cocaine um but like people like come along and like I guess other like Sunday Times columnists so writers and stuff like they're the ones who go to these like dinner parties they go to like you know these hotel whatever you want to call them where this shit happens and it becomes so normalized that like for that like maybe there is this distance

where like they genuinely don't understand why most people who just spend their Friday nights drinking white lightning and yelling at teenagers would get angry at that by which I mean millennials so there's two there's two things that I always say one is before I say this Brennan don't sue the podcast sue me like I want you to sue me Brendan also we don't have a lawyer Brendan I have a lot I want you to sue me um I think you eat your own shit um my many issues with Brendan I can't list because the podcast can't go 10 15 hours or try us bitch but the but the the thing about gaming streams however but Hussein is right about Brennan Brennan's issue is Brennan wants to be Brennan is obsessed about elites that don't like him and also defends elites at the same time in a

weird constant cell phone but the biggest problem with Brennan is Brennan is the bully who doesn't have the guts to punch you cool love recording ah yes very normal session where we are just finished recording the thing about Brendan O'Neill in the studio with everyone present because no one's audio fucked up really bad I definitely didn't come from a literal other city no ensues is still very much with us yes yes not in bed in my pajamas because Riley got hacked by Kremlin trolls and lost half of the episode you know whenever I do podcasts like remotely I'm always naked also the best way to piss I've heard totally naked well hey you can tell us now yeah so I had my first I had my first week um for

a month the stream was very thick and I guess the question that people asked was like well did you did you get stronger in the process of doing so and I would like to say yeah I did you know I can now bench 20 kilograms more than I could at the beginning of January um I don't have urges anymore but you know now when I'm on the tube I can just focus on reading my books by Rouge fee and Neil Strauss and I don't I don't get distracted by the women folk with their tights and their skirts going to work you know it's like once once you don't pee for a whole month you realize that actually all the women were fictional I just was very much a side issue but Hussain just did air like quotes this is not a video podcast who's saying so those air quotes are not apparent

to anyone well they are now yeah when you don't pee for a month you know how to get a visual gesture onto an audio medium by hijacking someone else's brain also you were assuming that I'm talking to just like normal people when in fact the only people I speak to are the guys on our red pill and they know exactly what I'm talking about when they say women the air quotes are there you don't need to like have it explained to you really uh really happy to to be here representing is the only woman at this recording and may I say that I'm having a brilliant time well look as far as we know you could just be an AI and then some implanted memories bear in mind but like you know you're just represented by like a computer which is really just like it epitomizes our show

really really well right I'm so glad we were able to re-plan this show because we were able to connect over my favorite social network Matt Hancock MP so welcome back to the second segment as I was saying earlier of trash future the podcast we have the future is recorded in two separate days due to audio problems thank you to sues for joining us again from the bowl um thank you to Mick for coming back from Norfolk and thank you for to Hussein uh for continuing to be here even though he actually is strong enough to lift a car and I saw it yeah I don't need to be here I made about I made a bunch of people really mad this week because um I released a factoid online um and the factoid was was that

Winston Churchill was actually voluntary celibate and the V stands for voluntary celibacy and I had I had this guy I had this guy like at me um saying uh you don't respect our country you should read a history book so I said I did I got I have a master's degree in history um and I know for a fact that the V that Winston Churchill is famous for stands for voluntary celibacy um so he was like sending me links to books and everything um he was just like oh maybe you should like you know learn about this country or or get out um so I sent him a book back which was Jordan Peterson's 12 rules for life um to which he responded uh I already have a copy the internet baby it's good oh oh boy okay so uh we did a segment last time on uh housing are we

ready to uh to fly into that at full speed this time everybody yes I massively resent you and I think it's important for the listeners to know that Riley sent me to his old house and I stood outside in the rain as I tried to work out to go until he admitted he sent me to his wrong house was it like the tattoo video it's just important to know the sense that at some point I'll take my revenge on Riley could be now could be 10 years from now could be 20 years from now could be on his deathbed but the revenge will be had in the meantime let's talk housing before I die um so uh Mick before uh you swore revenge on me um and before you swore uh very publicly inscribing on the great other um Matthew Hancock MP um you wrote an article in the city report about uh

sort of you might say homelessness and housing policy uh in England would you care to quickly summarize it for us yeah specifically is about um knowledge where um the city report and the means the agency I run are based and where I was born and um I guess uh the interesting thing is when I was when I was growing up um so late 80s through to late 90s the um knowledge really didn't have a bad homeless problem there was probably I was looking at the figures it's had something like it had like two handfuls of homeless people at any one time just really didn't have an issue because the council did very well at rehousing people it was quite a good labor council they just got people into houses um in the recent years knowledge is more and more it's the same as

pretty much most cities around the country that is the housing housing problem is becoming a profound crisis uh there's like a tent city is started spreading up in outside one of the banks there's like six or seven tents there now and the police are just basically like well they've got tents it seems fine we'll just let them do that but the issue is the biggest issue is that they have the city centre banning orders and most cities in the country people will have heard about these is what they do is they just ban homeless people from the centre and all the homeless people have been pushed out there because that is where the city centre boundary ends so it is it's very scary both for homeless people and residents of the city because it is like a war zone there now

you've got people with profound mental health issues not being well supported you've got problem drinkers you've got people who are just fighting over telephone boxes to sleeping because it's that cold so i wrote this article where i went around and i i spoke to um a number of rough leapers and the biggest issue for me and is what i'm looking into and many of them have come from oxford they're filming a big piece of prestige tv in oxford so the oxford council paid by the producers of this television program sent all their homeless people to know and these poor people told you will be given services when you get there guess what there aren't any and they are screwed i think the most offensive part of that whole story is that it's being done in order to facilitate

the production of a piece of prestige tv the the producers of the crown television program we can't say if they eat shit i've heard that they're on the brendan o'neill diet the patented brendan o'neill diet but the issue i i think it's worth highlighting is that in oxford it's the property then the property ownership dynamics the city are very strange and so what's happened is that is that with the um with the with the sort of properties increase in property speculation driven by student by student renters and sort of speculative landlords there is all of this sort of former social accommodation has been taken down and sort of repurposed all of the sort of former low-cost accommodation has been repurposed and so the entire city has basically just been

turned into an elite playground i think it's easy to look at this and and it is genuinely like easy you know we see it as like a series of really outrageous crises like a bunch of people are going to be you know moved out of oxford for this like ridiculous and superficial reason or they did a really similar thing when i lived in brighton they decided they were going to clean up the the city centre and you know um we are at this point now where that seems to you know involve actually like removing people and people don't bat an eye at policies that have you know the word clean in them that involve like getting rid of human beings from an area and they said that you know brighton city centre now is is a red zone for serious crime and the

serious crimes were like murder and squatting and these things were just bundled together as though that is in in any way a normal thing um to put the two together but obviously all of those flash points are always like extremely like heinous and absurd but it's all underpinned right by like a long-term systemic problem and i think it's really important that when we talk about homelessness in any context that that is obviously like directly linked to um beyond the council level at a higher government level you know there being like much less recourse to housing benefit or other benefits or to social housing council housing than there ever was in the past and it you know it feels like exhausting to keep hammering that point but whenever one of these

flash points comes up like eventually you know down at the root of it that is kind of the big rumbling cause that allows this to happen right well i mean it's a state choice that they've been making since right to buy ever since that should start with right to buy that's what we've been going towards like social and the culture of like desperately making people buy houses is insidious as well because so many of these homeless people that i've spoken to one of their issues is they they had a traumatic incident in their life they suddenly couldn't pay a mortgage and boom that's it and if you you know break that frame a little bit and start thinking about it in terms of everybody must be housed that is a material need and how is everybody housed in a way that

is sustainable like mixers where it can't just disappear either because you're evicted or because you can no longer pay your mortgage then i don't know i think that becomes like a little bit more of a sustainable discourse that doesn't end in you know this country is building houses and flats like hell but no one can afford to live in them right and that comes from somewhere the most interesting thing i that i discovered in rain the piece i wrote this week is it is that almost all of the evictions that happen are under a thing in the housing the housing act which is like no fault so basically if you're a landlord i can just like if i was riley's landlord i could literally just go uh you got to leave and then he go why don't i just want you to and the law says i

can yeah housing's pretty shit isn't it yeah it's terrible i i'm kind of what i think demolish it all of it do away with it the whole concept to me not her fault as well well it's not her fault but also i think it sort of indicates exactly what sees were saying right about the way that we frame this conversation it's between no there's this kind of presumption that like you you know you can only own houses if you're in a privileged position if you're in a privileged enough position to do so and it's sort of like something that's been internalised right so at the moment i am trying to buy somewhere um it's going horribly uh but that's that's for a different story but part of the reason it's going horribly is under is is largely because if you speak to mortgage lenders or if

you speak to people who kind of work in this particular space they'll kind of you know they'll look at anyone who isn't you know working in high ends of finance or consulting and aren't getting like pay slips for like three four thousand pounds a month as not being quite equitable to your high risk property yeah you're a high risk person right so not like even even for even for people who are in kind of good middle class you know in very good middle class jobs lots of air quotes on that one that all of our red piled listeners can see of course um but it kind of like it kind of brought back the thing about you know the idea of like talking about like a right to live you know even before we go on to like the whole notions of like ownership and what we actually mean by

ownership like just the general concept of like human beings having a right to live like has sort of been erased from this conversation here's like i don't want to be mr stats but this is this is really important so the on s like they figure they do a figure every year they put out figures about the relationship between house prices and um average annual salary right and last year you needed seven point six times the net average um annual salary to buy a house which is double the figure 20 years ago so when people in our parents generations and the generation above that make claims that oh well we work really hard etc etc they did that's not untrue yeah but the the dice like the game is stacked against us in a way it wasn't stacked against them a manual worker

in most of the country then could buy a house like if you save the money you could buy a house it's not possible now yeah and also you know also you hit you hear this a lot about like old previous generations like worked so much harder than millennials now so like you know um i mean they they might have worked harder a few hours though they work they genuinely might have worked harder than i do i i am pretty sure that's probably the case you know us as trash feature hosts we don't have real jobs right um you know we can spend a good hour of our day on the toilet with our trousers down to our ankles of course tweeting at matt walsh about how you can't play yugioh because it's anti christian guys you can't summon the blue eyes white dragon jesus said only

jesus may summon the blue eyes white dragon i was wondering like how long you'll take before he just said um all i'm saying is about next time i go to foxons i'm just going to lay down all the five exodia cards exodia obliterate the deposit i mean what sues what you can't see is is just me resting my head on my microphone and slowly nodding it in sort of upset but okay to to bring to bring together i think the um brain just smooth brain genius minds smooth brain yugioh people i i i i actually okay here's to riley i mean i'm gonna bring it all together because i think i think there is a underlying concept uniting both what's going on in norwich and oxford and what's going on in sort in the papers um and and in home buying first i want to say when i was a kid i always

pretended to be seto kaiba from yugioh i thought he was really cool um and i thought the only cooler character uh was hajime saito from ruroni kenji i always really liked the thin eyed badass i thought that was the coolest anime character right i like like then even galley it doesn't really deliver you one of those because you've got like wide eyed children i mean like brock from poke i was like the ultimate i mean whenever i sleep with someone i'm like yeah i'm a i'm a rock type the the housing market i think it seems to be a way for our beautiful society to kind of just criminalize and if you like sort of push through the fringes any kind of behavior it doesn't see is optimized yeah and so oxford asked itself okay we are the city of oxford what are we for

we are for educating the children of international plutocrats and filming prestige tv series what's that not compatible with people living here who don't who don't have homes why would we spend scarce resources on taking care of people who don't have homes when the city is for those first two things i don't know i feel quite strongly that when we talk about people speculating on food as a commodity for example and kind of shady heads funds doing that we have this kind of gut reaction that that's kind of disgusting right that you don't speculate on food prices because you know it causes famines and these like massive supply chain crises and i think if we talk about this more in terms of housing and maybe try and generate like a little

bit of a taboo around the idea that it is in any way justifiable to speculate on like residential property in the sheer volume that it's being speculated on in london at the moment i think that's quite important to remember london london is based on what you might call a kind of ruling bargain uh that the point we say what's oxford for oxford's for educating the children of plutocrats and being pretty well what's london for when you think of it that way london it london is a various infernos well it's yeah it's for that but london is basically to sort of it's it just exists to sort of entertain and house management consultants who come in here to make lots of money and then leave and so everyone just kind of gets at least sort of affluent based on this

ruling bargain from being sort of extractive and exclusionary to basically everybody else that's why one of the main policies if you're in council housing in london is you get turfed out to another city because the whole purpose and point of london is to generate wealth for banking so my last thing on this is basically i i keep coming back like i've been re i keep reading this essay that lenin wrote in like 1913 like cat person who's no like who stands to get like no it's a brilliant essay and he read it's just called who stands to gain and like and he all he says in it is a cat person lenin would make a written of great thing about that but um no but who stands to gain is the best question to ask about all this stuff and look fundamentally when

we talk about homelessness who stands to gain right they actually want these people to die that's the reality of it they do want these people to die because the the problem drinkers the problem drug addicts the the mentally they are really awkward in a society where the elite want a clean city and when susie's talking earlier about brighton we need to clean brighten up what they actually mean you know it's true they just want these people out because they want these clean dystopian cities where none of us who were even slightly awkward like they will criminalize you for anything it's it's it's their they just want to turn these cities into preschools whereas perfectly safe and there are no hard edges but don't look at it as a mistake the homelessness

is not a bug of the system it is a function of the system well um and but the four what we do know also is that there is in fact a policy uh policy if the conservative policy plan uh to solve homelessness appears to be a one-way bus ticket to norwich like when uber and richard branson take over the bus service they might call it something else homeless but no e yeah what it is is homeless people on buses no they're constantly roamer that's what we call roa m r and it will be they'll be they won't be homeless because they'll be allowed on these buses that just constantly circle the cities and throw them out to do tasks generate instead of like a stop indicator it'll just say get off here and clean this building and then you will be given your food power on roma i can see it now

right so like you have like all this kind of low wage work around the country um and people can select what type of low wage work you want to do on the roma buses and all the politicians will say well this is fine because if someone doesn't want to work that day they can sleep on the bus and they're just cycling constantly to mine bitcoin okay now we're kind of going into like black mirror that's yeah that's just that's a legit black come on that's gonna happen that's a trash future fowl right there um i yellow no you can stick your card up your ass because you're still in my bad books stick it right up your ass stick it up your ass like a yugio car so the labor if the conservative um solution to homelessness is basically just i don't know arbitrage

the labor solution to homelessness as put forward by by jeremy corbin known to some as the absolute boy and the others as granddad and the others as choke me daddy the absolute the absolute zaddy jeremy corbin is was saying look we are just going to buy houses so there are houses we can just give to the homeless we're going to solve the problem of rough sleeping by just making there be houses for people which on the surface of it seems like basically the bare bones of a pretty good idea um but uh the uh the times ah the time the very the good times these are the good times ah yes um particular manga um as by a journalist called tim worstall where the first syllable of his last name is doing a lot of heavy lifting um he's actually warned us that

corbins pledged to buy homes won't end rough sleeping really tell me how the latest relevant figures this article says show that there are about eight thousand rough sleepers over the course of a year and four thousand seven hundred or so at any one time so we knew we clearly do not need the eight thousand extra homes that corbin suggested over the weekend too many homes jeremy because we only need enough how homes to house exactly as many homeless people as we currently have it's not like this problem is getting worse because because we all know that like all the new jobs created in this wonderful gig economy are completely stable and they'll be fine but he continues and this is this is what i kind of wanted to this is the real

sometimes we do a reading and it takes us a while to get to the point of the article to understand where like the person writing it has just really shown their ass in a huge way captain was very tricky not this one this one they get right to it ahem and prepare if everyone here prepare for this it is also sadly true that whatever the number of extra homes provided we're not going to beat this problem not even infinite homes apparently of those checked during counts of homeless people 77 percent were affected by one or more out of alcohol or drug addiction and mental health problems yeah what's his fucking point i think his point is that these people because they're drunk just too drunk for a home

i think you set like a good reality tv series so we get all the columnist and we watch how long it takes before they descend into darkness and cannibalism no that wasn't always always sunny in philadelphia episode holy shit that wasn't always sunny episode yeah so he's basically what tim worstall is doing is he is proposing that essentially the plot of an it's always sunny in philadelphia episode where charlie goes and like lives on like a crab fishing jetty is in fact a real description of of human motivation but it's like his argument is that if you have say a drinking problem then your house just like evaporates and it's not the interaction between say a health problem and you know a total lack of well-funded services to

deal with that is this his point like if if you are ill or if you have a drug habit then your house goes away there's no process there where there may be like failures along the way because it's good because you see i'm i'm not smart enough to figure out that that's actually a good point and and not a bad point so it's good that tim was here to explain that to me in a national newspaper because i would just have skimmed past it and thought that you know that was bullshit so i'm i'm really pleased about that he in fact so he actually he goes on to say the difficulty is not in finding our accommodation for the homeless it is in keeping them in it when they have it those damn homeless people wanting to go out and buy milk the homeless are very

much like hamsters if you don't contain them properly they're just wander around the place it's it's amazing though how mad conservatives get about the fact that like the solution to quite a lot of problems is literally give people money the galaxy brain as we call it exactly exactly if you want to if you guys want to like if this this is like a really if you want like the m night shamalan twist of this particular story i'm going to read the the in bold little descriptor down at the bottom i'm going to even prepare the air horn sound effect tim worstall is a senior fellow of the adam smith institute i mean look this is the same organization that kind of supports that is still very oddly supportive of like work houses and factories so obviously you know i think

the last big shit storm they go into was one of like when one of their directors rinneal just running through with his mouth catching shit flakes hey that's my weekend hobby don't oh can i also say he's also contributed to cap x so i mean obviously very serious and respected journalists shall we uh talk about this housing app that is an extremely clever solution to the problem and not at all entirely stupid oh we absolutely are going to do that uh this is this is the this is this let's say we close out on the housing app discussion yeah well it's not so much an app as i don't know if you guys have been seeing this but um i guess i know you have because we've we started this before audio goblins hate the show spoiler we've talked about this all before

but um there are houses sort of around the country so the ones that immediately spring to mind are a three point two million pound flat in kensington a sort of two point eight million pound mansion out in the countryside where um they're being sold in a very unusual way um pretend like you don't know what i'm about to say oh my god riley how are they being sold oh what could it be hey thanks guys um no so what the uh there's there's a sort of spate of startup companies that are helping these people sell their houses not through just you know buying and selling but through lotteries um and so the uh the one of the uh the one of the first companies of like this i found is called your ladder generated a few some press um uh recently it was saying that what they're

going to do is on the basis of a cricket spot the ball competition like they take a picture of a cricket match something's happening in it they erase the cricket ball from it and then you have to guess where the cricket ball was also the reason they have to do this is legally required right because there has to be an element of skill uh fuck so so the if our game is spot the ball you have a ten pound ticket there are sort of three hundred and eighty thousand people that can enter and then you have a one in three hundred and eighty thousand uh chance for ten pounds of winning uh the um this the three point two million pound house now can anyone who is very good at maths tell me why that's a total scam because you should really be paying in bitcoin

well famed stable currency if you if you want to work that out what it basically means is that um the person the person selling the house that's been valued at three point two million pounds is sort of getting so six hundred thousand pounds over the value of their house and most people who are investing or quote unquote investing in that uh scheme are uh going to get nothing in fact the vast majority of them are going to get nothing three hundred seventy nine thousand of them are going to get nothing um but the this is because the stated mission of this company your ladder is to help people get on the housing market but they're not really fixing the housing market are they it's it's great when people do these things that are basically existing things like a

lottery and then decide that uh it's it's both good and and really convincing to market this as some sort of innovation whether you know technical or in terms of ideas you know this is really groundbreaking disruptive stuff this lottery based on a i don't know etonian parlor game from the mid 1950s that's really shaking shit up this is uh your ladder is also not the only company doing this uh winabow.com which i'm sure susan will love this describes itself as the uk's first online property competition platform i love that i do love that i love a platform love a platform the first one as well the first online property competition platform um so i i suppose in the in the in the grim darkness of the far future uh every time you sort of complete a task on roamer uh sort of

circling the city every time you scrub a window really well you get you maybe get one uh abode token uh which puts you in that night's draw to winabode and finally other people will be cleaning your your windows because we're living a stupid casino where not only does nothing matter nothing is even worth anything and the game continues um no so just i just want to i'm just looking at the publications that have featured winabode right and this will tell you like these are the storm troopers of like the arsehole media conglomerations right the telegraph full full has committed to full luxury fascism now um cosmopolitan fascism with a pink tint the evening standard george osbourne metro evil on your commute business insider a moral vacuum and time out here are some

places you can go to spend your money to try and ignore the misery of your life with other management consultants well that's the thing it's that it's it's like it's not that it's so much a scam that if you don't win you won't get it like the i'm assuming it does what it says it does it's just it's not a good value for anybody no um because what they say on winabode.com well it's a good value for two people i guess well three if you count the company on win on winabode.com what they say is our aim is to bring sellers and contestants together to beat the market ah yes those those famed um terms that we put to human sellers and contestants no but isn't that sort of brilliant because they finally admitted that the whole of the property market and everything we talked about

about they it's a it's a giant game show and unfortunately some of you are like the guy who goes out on a hundred quid on who wants to be a millionaire and you just end up homeless and some of you are basically a fully idiotic person who through luck and having the right friends wins the million yeah like that's like it is a game show brilliant thanks for your honesty winabode if nothing else what i think i think what this sort of discussion of sort of housing is kind of showing pretty conclusively is that basically is just that any any any assumption that the distribution of goods in society is basically rational is completely fucking fallacious because the further we get into this era of sort of of sort of fake cheap credit and just and just

sort of consistent low wages and just you know a spy upward spiral of nonsense it's just that nothing means anything anymore i think that the the interesting thing in that is there is i i could sit here with a whiteboard for like a couple of hours and i don't think i could fully understand what they mean by beat the market in that little bit of marketing copy like in what way is the market being beaten and by whom like you know a house is is still sold like no one no one has a cheat code here right i guess if you're smart enough and you get abcd start like you'll get the you get the menu up and you can select any level you want yeah no it's the kanami code yeah basically if you just well you're in the womb you punch in the kanami code yeah there's abcd up down left right start yeah

exactly and then i don't know what it is because i have had sex so you know it's so uh guys that sounds like a pretty good place to leave off yeah i just wanted to get out of your house don't you i'm never leaving so first just i want to say thank you to everyone who participated in this episode including people who were lost mylo we miss you we know you'll return one day neve thank you so much for coming on on the show it's just i'm so sorry your part got cut out by the audio goblins but like i said earlier we will be getting that interview again and we'll be releasing it next week for the more sort of if you like if you like the actual point of view in the president's club um and then to everybody sort of here uh sus thank you for

being in the ball thank you mick thank you for your patience i love you but i will kill you i'm i'm leaving i'm leaving trash future to go and become zoella social media editor all i'd like to say is fuck you riley quinn and um buy advent calendars you uh i i'm i'm off to become a i'm off to become an advent calendar um all right that's what it's going to be isn't it it's kind of like the next advent calendar is going to be like we're giving away a property contestant we're giving we're giving away a slave our second prize is a batch of a batch of zoella makeup valued at 250 pounds but if you join the zoella lottery you can get that and an apartment in brighton our uh our theme song is here we go by jinsang you can find it on spotify

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