TRASHFUTURE - *UNLOCKED* Britainology 23: Alan Partridge
Episode Date: December 27, 2022This month's unlocked Britainology involves Milo forcing Nate to watch an incredibly awkward episode of I'm Alan Partridge and then helping him talk him off the ledge. We also explore how Partrid...ge is not all that exaggerated a version of a British radio DJ, replete with some Richard Madeley and Jeremy Vine all-time classics. [If anything seems weirdly out-of-date, just remember that this was originally released on September 21, 2021]. To get more Britainology--and a ton of other bonus content, plus access to our Discord server--sign up on the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: Â https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum) Â Â Â Â Â Â
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Hello, and welcome to yet another episode of Brynology.
I'm My Little Edwards, and I'm joined as ever by my co-host, Neighbors Day.
Hello, it's a lovely day, perhaps some of the last nice end of summer weather that we will potentially get,
although it already feels like autumn, let's be perfectly honest.
Yeah.
And soon it'll become the eternal British season of grey and wet and cold and dark.
Our absolute favourite.
Yeah, it's kind of an unseasonably warm September day today.
As opposed to unseasonably cold all of August and mostly all of July and pretty much all of June too.
Yeah, I mean, we love to see it, don't we?
We really needed a nice summer after the lockdowns and misery of the previous winter,
and what we got was not that.
No, no, we did not, we did not get that.
The truest part of Brynology is of course the weather analysis at the start of every show.
Yes.
Because there's nothing more British than the weather.
Because when you hate literally everyone you encounter, but you feel obligated to make conversation with them,
it is one of the few safe topics that one can complain about while not expressing an opinion about anything that really matters.
That is very true, yeah.
The only safe political topic in Britain is the weather which everyone hates.
I've just had to open up Google Drive to get my notes up,
and I love that now every time I open up Google Drive it's like,
did you know you can block people on Google Drive now?
In case the beef from the TL is really spilling over.
I think it's very funny to me sometimes because some of the shows that I produce,
people upload their files to it like a Google Drive folder, you know, for each episode,
and the block that person button is immediately adjacent to the download the file button,
and it's just very, very funny to me.
It's just sort of like, I'm wavering, like I might produce this episode,
but I might say, fuck you, it's just ban you from your own show.
You're bad.
Yeah, you will so much power as the producer.
Stop producing episodes and just leaving one track out entirely.
The Joker produces podcasts.
Yeah, this is a long sign.
It just randomly blocks people and refuses their audio.
No way in the sense, yeah, to the Joker, this is a normal podcast.
This is a regular future.
Yeah, so this week on Britonology, we're talking about the most British thing imaginable.
Alan Partridge.
That's correct.
It's been mooted for a while doing this episode,
and I wasn't quite sure how to tackle it because usually we talk about things that suck,
and Alan Partridge is actually really good.
But I think what I've decided is we have to put Alan Partridge in its wider British context.
So I, against Nate's will, made him watch the episode Brave Alan,
which is season two episode three of I'm Alan Partridge,
which you might be more familiar with as the Dan episode.
And I think it's safe to say that Nate took some psychic damage from this.
I really don't do well with concentrated awkwardness in shows.
Curb Your Enthusiasm, very funny show, but I can't watch it
because it's just that sort of thing nonstop.
It's just not my thing.
I don't like concentrated awkwardness.
And this show is so much of that.
And this particular episode was so much of that that I was just like,
I wasn't just cringing in terms of my reaction and spirit.
I was like, white-knuckling my phone and gripping my own head.
Just like, I cannot fucking believe I'm watching this.
It's so, so awkward.
I mean, I get a lot of references now of things that you guys have talked about
on the show before where you bring up Partridge.
But yeah, I was not prepared for how much awkwardness I was going to experience.
And yeah, it says what it does, what it says on the tin.
Yeah, I picked this one because it's kind of the most,
it's probably the most referenced Partridge episode.
Like if you watch this one episode, you'll probably understand a lot more
of like classic intercourse.
Lin, these are sex people.
You know, all of the classics.
I think Lin, these are sex people.
There's something I say probably on an at least daily basis.
Yeah, so the basic plot of the episode we watched
is that Alan, who loves hanging out there.
Because I think one of the things I want to get at in this episode
is that sort of Alan Partridge is like a kind of archetypal British dad.
It's interesting that you brought up Curb Your Enthusiasm
because I also have that in my notes.
Alan Partridge is kind of like a sort of British Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind.
Yeah, he's not quite as...
He's styled as a bit more of a dickhead and a fall guy
than Larry David is in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
But he still has this kind of thing where he's like an asshole,
but he's also often right.
And he's kind of stupid, but he's still smarter
than a lot of the people around him.
And so there's this kind of weird anti-hero type figure.
But yeah, the basics of Alan Partridge is just like,
he likes everything that the most stereotypical middle-class dad would like.
He listens to Rocheford, he drives Alexis.
He knows a lot of things about screen wash and ordnance survey maps
and refers to himself as buying sweets for the glove box.
Is it true?
He wears driving gloves.
Yes, yes, he wears driving gloves.
And he has like a number of petty disputes and rivalries
which come up in this episode like with the fellow late night DJ Dave Clifton,
who he always manages to like bicker with in the show handover.
So the show is always like the concept of Alan Partridge
is that he used to be a TV star
and then he had like a big sort of disgrace moment from TV
and so he's had to become a local radio DJ back in his home county of Norfolk.
But he likes to think of himself as like a big deal in the Norfolk area.
And so in this episode, he's hanging out at the petrol station
with his friend Michael who works at the petrol station.
So in the first season of Alan Partridge, he's living in a hotel
and Michael is like the handyman at the hotel.
And then the second season, Michael's now living in a caravan
while he's waiting for his house to be built
and Michael is working at the petrol station.
Michael being immediately when Michael started talking,
Nate was like, what the fuck is that accent?
Yeah, I was like, I know Norfolk accents are weird, but not that weird.
Yeah, no, it's extremely Geordie.
And so like there's this kind of weird dynamic where like Alan has all these people
that he wishes he was friends with like contemptuous of Alan,
but he also has all the people he's actually friends with
who he is contemptuous of.
So like Michael, his assistant Lynn, who's in love with him,
but who he treats terribly.
And while he's in the petrol station, he meets Dan
because another man pulls up in Lexus, which Michael points out.
And they have this is another like extremely quoted exchange in Partridge
where they're like, oh yeah, I love Lexi.
Dan basically looks like sexual Ed Miliband.
That's what I kept flashing through my mind was that he basically looks like
if Ed Miliband opened the collar of his shirt,
didn't wear an undershirt and had a gold chain.
He basically is that guy.
Yeah, Dan's played by Stephen Mangan,
who will be familiar to people who've watched British comedy.
He's in like Green Wing and some other shows.
Yeah, and they just realized that they love all the same things.
So I think he's the biggest fan of the A416.
One of the things that Partridge really nails is like details of ephemera.
Just like the sort of thing that like a guy who thinks of himself
as a big deal in like a regional sense.
But oh, Kitchen Planet on the A416 classic.
It's only the biggest kitchen showroom in Europe.
Like that level of just like detailed obsession is like, I don't know,
it really nails a certain kind of guy.
Every time you ever do the Anorak voice,
you sound like Alan Partridge,
which makes me think that he's sort of like within that general wheelhouse
of like could be an Anorak, but isn't necessarily,
but he's like predisposed towards that same,
that sort of like fixated personality.
He definitely seems like he comes across as someone
who has no idea what's going on,
but is sort of narrating dumb shit around him like a radio DJ,
but has zero idea of what's actually happening.
I mean, I get it.
It's a comedy show.
It's tailored to the British sensibility,
but having seen this like I'm appreciative that I now get the jokes to some extent,
but I would definitely not watch this.
Yeah.
It's definitely one of the more awkward episodes that you watch,
but like definitely the whole thing with Partridge is being super awkward.
I mean, there's another really famous episode where he goes,
basically there's a guy who's the controller at the BBC channel
that he wants to get back on, who he hates, who dies suddenly.
And then one of Alan's friends becomes the controller of the channel.
So he's pretty sure he's going to get back on TV
and he goes to this guy's funeral in order to like network with the BBC people there.
And there's a point where he's like talking to the widow.
He's being like, yeah, it's such a shame.
You know, what was he doing up on the roof?
And then he like spots someone that he wants to network with
and he's like, would it be terribly rude if I left you and want to spoke to someone else?
And then as he turns around, he's wearing like a black jacket.
And as you turn around, you just see that the jacket says Castrol GTX on the back.
It's just like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is primed to make me blow all my circuits
and like run from the room in terror.
Exactly.
And I don't even think this is a particularly American tendency.
I know Alice's husband, Chris, has the same tendency.
I think that like you either have it or you don't.
And I know plenty of like one of my best friends from America,
extremely American, loves Caribbean enthusiasm,
really loves that Michelin web look.
Like awkwardness doesn't phase him at all.
He's 100% into that, but I just can't handle it.
Like it's just, it's just, it's just unpleasant.
Yeah, some things I do find too good.
Like peep show, I would say is more cringe than this.
And like there are some points in peep show where I'm a bit like, oh...
Yeah, I mean...
I know where they're eating the fucking dog.
So they're having to pretend that it's like some barbecue
because they don't want to admit to this woman that they killed her dog
and then tried to cremate it to hide the evidence.
It's going, mmm, delicious barbecue.
Jesus Christ.
You know, that I was watching that like, oh...
There was a show when I was a kid.
It was in some markets in the U.S.
It was called the John Leguizamo show.
And in others it was called House of Buggin.
It was like a sketch comedy show.
That sounds like a bit, just like the John Leguizamo show,
or as it was also known, House of Buggin.
Yeah, it was called House of Buggin
where I lived in New Mexico.
And I think West Coast markets got it that,
but like on the East Coast, they called it something different.
And got to market it to the Italians on East Coast.
Well, John Leguizamo was Puerto Rican
and he did...
It was basically like...
The best way to describe it is sort of like Latino sketch comedy.
It was really funny,
but it definitely crossed into some like,
some just like deeply fucking uncomfortable stuff.
And it's weird to me because it's like, as a kid,
I just thought that was hilarious.
And now I'm just sort of like...
They would do these things where basically
they would recreate urban legends
that go around people's stories and things like that.
And there was one about like,
the guys who got...
They ordered KFC and they wound up eating rats
by mistake and stuff like that.
And it would just be like really, really gross at times
or really like uncomfortably sexual.
And it's weird because yeah, as like an 11-year-old,
I watched this and I'm like, oh, it's funny, whatever.
It's funny. And now it's just like...
If I try to watch even like a mundane
Curb Your Enthusiasm episode,
it's just like, I cannot handle this shit.
I don't know why. I don't know what switch got flipped in me.
But watching this literally within five minutes,
as soon as he left the radio station, I was just like...
Yeah. I mean, there was, of course, a gag about level 42.
It was, I appreciate it.
I don't even like level 42 that much,
but the fact that I like them at all made you lose your mind.
And now you love to make fun of me for it,
even though I genuinely like two songs by level 42.
I think Brit Funk in general was pretty good,
but like, I don't know that much about it.
So you want to own me for that, whatever.
Like, you know...
I think it was just because you're American
and I couldn't believe you were even aware...
Like, level 42 is such a like particular kind of like
British dad music that it's like...
Well, yeah, we think it was the air it came out into.
Well, that song, Something About Us...
Like, it's Alan Partridge.
Was it Something About Us or Something About You?
I can't remember the exact title.
That was a huge hit in America.
I don't know stuff like that.
But like, that's why I know them.
Not because I'm like, you know,
making fucking pilgrimage to England
so I can like complete my fandom of early 80s
so I can soft rock dance music.
If I was going to do that shit,
it would be for fucking Duran Duran.
All right, so get it straight.
You'll come to Essex.
They're from Birmingham.
They're good too, but I think they got out
of fucking electronic music geysers.
I mean, it is funny when you think about how many
of the like luminaries of second British invasion,
electronic, you know, synth pop music
are not just from Essex,
but they're all literally from...
From the Netherlands.
Well, no, we'll live from the Netherlands too.
But hilariously, they are all actually from...
Like, there's so many from Basildon.
Why? I have no idea.
But, you know, it's the thing.
Like, if you like that music, you got to go to England,
I guess, to appreciate it.
And we'll only hang out with boomers
if you like that shit.
Grew up on the Las Vegas strip.
Exactly. So, yeah, level 42.
I did, of course, get that joke.
I didn't realize it had such a connotation
as being like pure dad music in the UK, but...
Yeah, I love the radio.
Like, every hour in Partridge episode,
much like the Seinfeld episodes are like
bookended with the bits.
Like, Partridge episodes are usually bookended
with clips of him doing his radio show.
Which are always great because, like,
one of the start of this episode is the phone-in,
where it's like, what happens
after we die?
And, like, it's just, it's perfectly pitched
because British radio phone-ins are so insane.
I mean, I know you have your own kind of insane radio,
but in, like, in Britain, there's, like,
a kind of, there's a subtle madness
to it that's really infectious.
And, like, this is just, like, perfectly pitched.
So, what happens after we die? And it's like,
oh, yeah, like, wherever the guy's name is,
he has three beautiful children,
including a new baby girl, Sarah.
And he thinks that after we die, there is nothing.
Then it's just like, this is level 42.
Like, that amazing switch from something
like really bleak and then straight into, like,
some music from the 80s.
Well, I mean, we just had the leading
Britain's conversations, you know,
a fucking snap
that got put around all over social media
about the woman calling in
and being like, well, if Afghans didn't work
for the British government, then their lives are not
worth anything more than dogs. Save the dogs instead.
I prefer the dogs. And people just be like,
hey, she's entitled to her opinion.
So, yeah, somewhere where British
call-in radio is
a bit much. And this is
something I really love about Partridge, because
it's a satire of, like, a certain kind
of British guy. But also,
it's an amazing satire of British media.
And I think the longer I've spent
working in, like,
media or media adjacent
sphere, you see
you just see it everywhere. So, I want
to talk about some real-life partridges.
And I think we would
it would be a miss of us not to begin with
fucking Richard Maidley.
So, I'm going to play you a short video.
We can cut the audio from this in, because
this is just a compilation of, like,
Richard Maidley's most Alan Partridge moments.
Just to explain who Richard Maidley is,
he is, like, a British
kind of TV personality
in that manner of, like,
no one can really tell
you what he initially got famous for. Like,
he's just a guy who's on TV.
Like, it's that kind of... And he has a
wife who's... I guess he's probably in his, like,
late 50s now. He has a wife
who's, like, quite a lot older than him. She's probably
in, like, her mid-70s called Judy Finnegan.
And they had a long-running, like,
daytime sort of
talk magazine show called Richard and Judy,
where they would have, like, a book club
and, like, all this kind of... Just really weird.
And I remember a few
years ago, there was some, like, Richard
Maidley gave some interview where he talked about, like, the
string of lovers he had before Judy
Finnegan. And someone... I think it might have been
Vorn, who's a British radio DJ, started calling
him Richard's sex Maidley, and I've just
never been able to get over it.
It's gone six o'clock.
Look who's here. Hello.
TV legend Richard Maidley. Did you see I fluffed
my first link? And here is Alex
with the first look today's work. Hello, good morning.
My daughter fancies you, by the way. You look at the beach
and you think, ah, pretty, pretty, lovely golden sound.
That's safe. Uh-uh. Not in certain parts of the country.
Quicksand. And a horrible way to die.
Why shall I not be allowed a GMT
or a glass of wine with the meal on a flight
because of these idiots? Having knocked someone out,
which means you've given them brain damage, that's
medically speaking. Do you make a lot of money? Are you rich?
Are you rich? Uh, yeah.
Are you? Come on, it's a serious question.
Are you able to make good money? Do people just want to know?
I'm just asking. I just want to know if there's money
to be made. I'm not, I'm not. It used to be.
You just used to see a guy beaten to a pulp, basically.
You know, Gabby Roslyn, the presenter, once I
saw her in a restaurant, and I was chatting to her, and she
was super thin and slim and looking great, and I said,
Gabby, are you... are you expecting?
She went, no, what are you suggesting?
It was all right. We had a laugh. Now, probably
because of all the programming that I've done, particularly
with Judy about anorexia and eating disorders,
I'll say this, I probably would have clocked it.
And then Judy got pregnant very quickly again. It was an accident.
Sorry, Chloe, but you were... It's good to share.
And you know it. The very first time I appeared on
live television was on this morning.
It happened to be modelling raincoats.
Yes.
All right, then let's move on. Here's Lucy
with her first look at today's weather.
And this morning, she's up on the ITV roof.
Just absolutely incredible.
It is interesting to me
that this is definitely based...
Alan Partridge is an exaggeration
of a type of guy, but that that guy does exist.
You know what?
The thing is, it's almost as though
Alan Partridge is barely
even an exaggeration of someone like Richard Maitley.
I mean, maybe it's like
the persona of Alan Partridge
not on the radio
is an exaggeration, but the persona of Alan Partridge
is Radio Show.
It's barely even satire.
It's almost like a blow-for-blow
recreation of an exact...
The bit where Richard Maitley was like,
the beach seems pretty fun.
Not for some though, can be dangerous.
Quicksand, a horrible way to die.
That is exactly something that Alan Partridge
would do on his radio show.
Yeah, I mean, that's...
It's wild to me because
I would have thought that this was a huge
send up.
And they've created
Radio DJ Mr. Bean
kind of just perfect idiot.
But you're right. It's not that
dissimilar to some of the people that
are actually on TV.
And these people earn millions.
Because there's even a bit in this Alan Partridge episode
where he's doing the Alan's Deep Bath segment
and the concept of it is
supposed to be like a kind of like, you know, like the sexy
sensual late night radio thing
and it's like Alan's Deep Bath
and they're playing slow jams and whatever
and he's going like, oh yeah, just
get the suds going
and close your eyes. Listen to the
sounds of the music washing over you.
And then he goes like, try not to slip under
some terrifying statistics about that.
It's like
just pitch perfect
Maitley.
Yeah, there was another actual Richard Maitley
recently and this is another way in which
sort of like Maitley
and like Jeremy Vine who we'll get onto
they embody Partridge in the sense that
like, there were a lot
of British radio and TV personalities
like people like, I don't know, like Nick
Ferrari or Ian Dale who are just cunts
like they're just, they're just horrible.
And they're not, they can be a bit
Partridge sometimes, but the thing about Partridge
is it's like kind of
there's a sort of, there's like a reasonableness
to him, like he takes things too far, but it's
not like a, he's not supposed
to be like a cunt. He's supposed to be like
kind of like
uncouth and a bit of an asshole, but like
he's not supposed to be bad.
It's like a kind of a fair way, not necessarily
like a deliberately being a twat kind of way.
Yeah, he's not like callous
and I think this is
something you can kind of say of someone like Maitley
because like he's often sort of like
weirdly right, but in a kind of
just such a bizarre way. There was, he got
he was going viral recently because
Shemima Begum's been back
in the news and
they were doing like a, like a text
in thing on his TV show about
whether she should be let back into Britain
and obviously they were getting lots of
insane messages and
Maitley is like, well, I'll tell you one thing.
After World War II
we put a lot of the Nazis on trial at
Nuremberg and we even hung a lot of them
but we never did that with the Hitler Youth, did we?
Did we?
Never went after the Hitler Youth.
I think, interesting that, first thinking about
which is like
like I sort of understand
the point that he was making that like, yeah
she's a child and that you know, she was groomed
sort of thing, but like kind of, and so he is
sort of right, but it's like just kind of this like
absolutely bizarre angle.
100% yeah.
And so that's kind of, that's the soul
of a certain kind of guy.
I also wanted to talk about a Jeremy Vine
phone in.
Regular listeners to trash feature and followers of me
on Twitter will be aware that I am
a massive Jeremy Vine head.
I think Jeremy Vine
he fascinates me.
Like, the radio show that he does
he's on radio too, which is like
the most like
your mom ass thing to listen to
on BBC Radio. They play like kind of
pop music ish
but like from like whatever era it is
and it has like really safe
like Gen Xer and
Boomer presenters.
Like very like easy listening type
shit, but like the call-ins and stuff they have
are absolutely deranged.
So let's do a clip from Jeremy Vine
because
ELO hold on tight.
We'll talk about ISIS in a second.
Just think about the caller we had yesterday
who said that they were demonic and satanic.
Can we put them on a
spectrum of evil?
Love you to call on that. 0500 288 291.
Now yesterday we were discussing
Islamist militants in Iraq
but are these Sunni
Muslim extremists
ISIS in a different
category of evil?
How do they compare to the mass murderers
of the past? Where do they stand on the
historic spectrum of evil?
Can you even put them on it?
Do we have to go back to the Nazis
to find anyone as wicked as this lot?
0500 288 291
do call us 0500
I say the number email vine at BBC.co.uk
John in Hertfordshire emails
when I hear people talk about ISIS
how they've not seen such brutality
since the Nazis. Let's not forget
Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge
in Cambodia in the 70s
when they murdered 2 million.
The similarities with ISIS are shocking.
We're looking at the spectrum of evil
we're saying of this lot
the most wicked lot we've seen
since Hitler's gang.
012 30
It's so good. It's the transition from
like are they as evil as the Khmer Rouge
and then just like fading
in some hell but hell but hell
in Southern California. Let's just do
a few more comments talking about ISIS
and then we're going to move on
for sure. Patrick
Eudes in Aberdeen says
ISIS are purely evil. We should
just fight fire with fire.
I don't know what that means
if you've seen them beheading people
trying to understand them is wrong but we should
not go down that road. I believe
the Nazis were also evil
but they were slightly more humane
than ISIS.
Andrew Doke emails
Of course they're not the most evil things since the Nazis
What about Bosnia, Rwanda, the Khmer Rouge
in Cambodia? Somebody also mentioned
Shining Path in Peru as well
Every day says Andrew
there are rapes in the Congo
Humans are just
bad. Coming up next
the Brick Shortage
in the UK. Pitch Perfect Partridge
going from genocide to brick shortage
to the national brick shortage
Why do we need bricks anyway?
Can't you build a house without them?
They've got clever ways of just bringing a trap
with a wall and dropping it there
The noises you can hear are
from John White, a bricklayer
John Hi! Hello there
I love the sound and it reminds me
of as a child actually somebody built a wall
and I used to just watch them doing it
and of course it's one of the best skills
because you can, what I asked you or just off mic
before we started is if you taught me how to lay bricks
what do you want to learn? Could I then build a house?
Spend how long we're talking
I'll give it a year
We're pushing it
At what point would I use a plum line?
No, we don't really use plum lines
I thought you had to drop it from a piece of string
Not nowadays, yeah
No, lasers now
This conversation
about bricks in the meeting is the longest conversation
we've had for years on any story
Are you against pebble dashing?
Of course I am
It's horrible, isn't it? Why does anyone do that?
Should it be made illegal?
I think so, yes
God damn it
It's just so good
Oh my god
What you love, I know you love
because you commute so much
you love listening to talk radio
and just like it's fodder for bits
but also like, I don't know, it feels as though
you're sort of jacked into the British matrix
when you're driving
in from Essex, crossing over
and listening to this shit on the radio
Oh, absolutely
My mom has the radio on all day
for companies, so if I'm ever at home
and she'll listen to radio too
but I often, and it's amazing
because she, and I think this is how
a lot of people consume this stuff
she just listens to the radio, but she's not
remotely paying attention to it, but I kind of
have that kind of brain where if something like
it will just catch my attention
and so I'll periodically be like
what the fuck is this
I'm like Jeremy Vine's having a fucking phone
in about how evil eyes this are
and asking people to rate them
on a scale of evil
and then my mom will be like
I'm not really listening to it and I'm like
how can you not listen to this
like how is someone
another great Jeremy Vine one was
he was having a phone in about
what the loudest appliances were
because it was like
there was something like
loud appliances are louder than a petrol
lawn mower
and then someone phoned in
and was like oh I've got a really loud kettle
and he's like okay so he like puts the kettle on
and he's like oh yeah that's quite loud
and then and he's like
and I've brought my lawn mower in the house for comparison
and then Jeremy Vine's like
no there's no need and he just like starts the lawn mower
which is obviously deafening
and he's like it's quite loud and he's like
yeah you can turn it off now and he's going what
hahaha
um yeah it's just
I don't know but yeah that whole
thing about just like yeah every day
says Andrew there are rapes in the Congo
coming up next the brick shortage in the UK
yeah there's an extent to which I
I find myself just really really
confused by this because the affect of
American talk radio is very different
you spent time in the US I don't know how much you've heard
but it's
yeah you know news commentary
terrible skits terrible songs
stuff that goes on way too long
shock jock stuff
if you're familiar
listeners if you're familiar with street fight radio
of the great podcast out of Columbus Ohio
they do a lot
of bits talking about like
the heyday of horrible shock jocks in the 90s
and 2000s and like recapping
and doing like profiles on the awful
when we say shock jocks like
what we mean by this is sort of talk radio
hosts on either AM or FM radio who just like
their whole thing is just being like
contrarian or transgressive
or just like trying to shock you
and just like you know Howard Stern
is the great example of this but there are
a lot of like low rent
Howard Stern impersonators
who kind of like go in that
in that vein of things of the sort of
Andrew Dice Clay
genre of comedy but done on
on radio where like there's a limit
to the dirty words you can say but like they're
constantly doing shit I mean the big thing
of the big kind of you know stock
kind of like punching bag for them was just
like being misogynist or like making
gay jokes or stuff like that
and it's weird how much that stuff
changed even since when I was a kid because
like there was a more or less informative
there was a show called
love phones that was on the radio that was
like a sex advice show that came on
like my god npm and
it was like there was a woman host
who was a like a sex therapist
like a doctor and then they just had like
a guy who was just like a talk radio
comedian shock jock guy and so
she would like give sex advice and he would just
kind of make fun of callers and play drops
and stuff like that like
there would be you know when people call in
and something about being gay or having gay sex
or I am I gay or something like that he would play
like there was one drop of a very obviously
supposed to be gay man saying you
or he would play another one that was
the quote from if you're familiar with
the movie Friday when the guys talk about how
his dad's talking about how he loves being a dog
I'm not sure because he hates dogs
and then basically just beating the shit out
of dogs or kicking a dog in the ass and just going
bang bang bang up his ass and like that
they would use that fucking drop
all the time and this sort of show
like I said is notionally meant to be informative
imagine like messaging into
that show when you like having listened to
it before like being like yeah
I want to get some advice and also I want to kind
of play a drop that says bang bang bang up his ass
yeah exactly
and some of the call I mean my god some of the callers
were insane but it was a different kind of insane
this is like a weird sort of pedestrian like
not self-aware insane whereas
like the guy calling up love phones and talk about
how like he's like yeah you know I
had a girlfriend a long time but
found something that's worked in the meantime right so
like a microwave a cut a hole
in a watermelon and a microwave
of about 30 seconds and I sexed the hell
out of that thing like that kind of stuff
coming I remember this one I was like 13 listening to this
show avidly um and
it's just it was a very very different
I mean like I'm not even talking about
like the rush limbaugh style shit which is like
obviously the reason why Mike Pence is a
politician it's just because of am talk radio
like conservative talk radio like that kind of stuff
well I'm just talking about like
pedestrian kind of weird shit like
absolutely we have it
it's just not like this I've never
heard American talk show being like ISIS can you
evrate them on a spectrum call it with your examples
yeah it's incredible that there's like a real
there's a rich rain running through
a rich vein rather running through
British talk radio of like
just encouraging the British public
to have like weird opinions
or like just to have like
to like voice their opinion on something which
obviously nobody knows about I mean
a debate they often refer to back a lot
when I think about this stuff and um
this is also Jeremy Vine I think
was there having a debate about having a four day
working week which was like pretty normal
for Jeremy Vine but they had
like a guy who was like an economist
from Oxford on there basically explaining the case
of a four day week and then they had someone else
on the line who was like just a guy
and then and then there's economists being like
yeah well I mean you know I think they'll actually
increase productivity and you know people will have
more free time and it was basically a win-win
and then this guy is going yeah but that's
bollocks and then the professor is always going
like well why is it bollocks and he's like
well I think it's bollocks
don't like it this is cool
exactly like just like that and in Britain
that qualifies as a debate it's like
well here's a guy who's like researched this thing
as a guy who thinks it's bollocks
it's really funny because that's like the real world
real world version of
the uh the onion
may still do this but they used to do this thing
the point counterpoint where it would just be like
like a very obvious uh like basically
two incredibly stupid
opinions or like like a normal opinion and a completely
insane opinion that was like the point counterpoint
and the one I remember the most was like right
around the time the US was about to invade Iraq
it was like this war will will set off
you know a generational conflict
and destabilize the entire region versus
the the counterpoint was no it won't
and it's just like it's basically that
yeah like that but but you're saying British radio
is doing this for real yeah exactly
but a lot of it is really mundane
and I think that's the best uh the best
quality of it seems like what they're looking for
is like the most unself-aware
eccentric opinions
like as much as people act shocked
they genuinely want to hear that
or at least the producers want to hear it because they know
it'll make people laugh and be like can you believe this
idiot etc etc yeah I've just been
uh name searching myself
and Jeremy Vine on Twitter to
uh recall some of his best moments
I've noticed that for a lot of them I've used this same
screencap from Alan Bancho which is
the image um this is a great one
uh Jeremy Vine on radio
2 is reading out people's home injury stories
and just said then he fell from
the ladder and the shears went through
his eye here's Roxy Music
it's just so good
it's perfect like
it genuinely is a comedian
you're like you're like I can't top that
like it's so well judged
like it's this is what I mean
when it's like partridge is non-exaggeration
like it's just like
what Steve Coogan is good at doing is like
replicating it in the same way that like
people were like so bad at replicating Trump
and that was why Trump parodies were so bad
because Trump himself is so funny like
as a Trump parody the best you can do is
really just like a faithful sort of
interpretation of what Trump would say about something
here's another one Jeremy Vine
just had a woman call in about her 10 siblings
in their 70s 80s and 90s
who are still alive and then said and you're all
still alive cryy key have any
brushes with death
hahahaha
absolutely wonderful
way Keith James is the most
normal British DJ
well exactly yeah
Jeremy Vine is on the radio suggesting
quarantine could be a good time to go back to having
weekly bonfires in your garden like
his dad used to do
hahahaha
someone just texted into Jeremy Vine
I didn't even realize that I posted
about Jeremy Vine this much
someone just texted Jeremy Vine to complain that their neighbors
are having constant hot tub parties
where they play loud music and have quote-unquote
vile conversations
hahahaha
Lynn these are sex people
hahahaha
we haven't even gotten into the plot
of the episode yet we haven't even gotten
into the explanation of that
but please continue on this riff though I appreciate it
I did want to remember
um
because I think this is so Jeremy Vine
oh yeah if you're wondering how Britain is doing during the crisis
Jeremy Vine is currently on radio too
hosting a heated debate between a jogger and a dog
walker about who is more entitled to their
space on the paper hahahaha
hahahaha
um yeah
but yeah again Jeremy Vine is like
a guy who like I mean that that radio show
is absolutely insane
but also like
it's usually Jeremy Vine kind of like raising
his eyebrow at people being insane
it's not like Nick Ferrari or something
where he's being like yeah like fucking
you know whatever
push back the asylum boats or whatever the fuck
like Jeremy Vine is like
he kind of has like a sort of
like a sort of soft left sensibility I would say
um in a very like boomer sort of way
but like he's quite like um
uh he will often say things
on talk radio that are like
surprisingly left wing by like British
broadcasting standards
like I remember like during the pandemic he was having
something where he was doing a phone in about
um like
uh
remuneration and wages and stuff in Britain
he was saying yeah because now we've kind of
realised that a hospital cleaner is sort of more useful than a
lot of chief executives
what someone's saying this on British radio
yeah exactly and what the fuck is going on
um but yeah I remember
there's a great there's a great moment in Alan Partridge where
um he's really
he's really pissed off the farmers
because he said something about farmers on the radio
I kind of remember what it was something about how they're all like
genetically modifying chickens
or something and uh and so he's got
all these farmers like angrily calling in
his radio show to yell at him but he's trying to
have a phone in competition about guessing
who invented the skip
and so they thought we were going into like
you should be ashamed of yourself and he's going
who invented the skip
the guy the guy's like I don't know who invented the bloody
skip Bobby Moore
I couldn't even tell you yeah so
periodically I'm just like who invented the skip
um but yeah the plot of the episode
he meets Dan we then get a scene back
at uh Alan Partridge's
uh static caravan where he lives
where he has an amstrad e-mailer
um and
his Ukrainian girlfriend Sonya who's like
a mail order bride is like
doing lots of practical jokes on him like
giving him a sandwich with a plastic egg in it
and a whoopee cushion and stuff and he's like
just exasperated by this um
and then she while he's on the phone to Dan
she attacks him with a rubber hammer and he's like
oh that's just my Ukrainian girlfriend she's she's mildly
crattiness
I knew when I heard that
line I was like oh my god this is this is absolute
catnip for Milo sense of humor
this is just premium the kind of
shit that would stick rattle around in your skull
forever the after the first time you heard it
oh yeah absolutely I mean it won't surprise
you to learn that university I was a big
I was a big partridge head I was always
always quoting that shit not not a surprise at all
it comes in he's walks in walking
into the shot in the static caravan doing
up his trousers and sticking on the extractor
fan and saying Sonya that was classic
intercourse
um
yeah Lynn comes around
and she's telling him about her like new
sort of like male friend and call
a type guy uh
and he tries to convince her that he's a con man
that he's interested in her building
society book
um and then yeah she's talking about how they
got stranded at the place because it was raining
and she's like we just kept laughing and saying we're
stuck he's like Lynn you're laughing at weather
like your mother in her last few weeks
um
yeah and then uh so Dan
invites him to go and present an award at the Norfolk
bravery awards again
such a powerful British vibe I think
the fact that when they you get there and it's the
Coleman mustard presents Norfolk bravery
awards I was like all right I do actually get that
reference yeah good on you
we love to see it yeah there's a
yeah a portrait has a great way of like
imagining things that aren't real but so
easily could be the Coleman's and the mustard
Norfolk bravery awards
it's very funny to me because my mom's whole family
is from Norfolk so like I've not spent any time
there aside from like a very brief period as a little
kid but like it is very interesting to see
how it's sort of portrayed as like this
extreme backwater but also like full of
people who are kind of
uh believe themselves to be very important
and uh yeah I mean
I feel like I'm from a state that's basically
that so I absolutely understand it you know
like it's just uh it's an interesting
vibe but it also doesn't really
shy away from making everything look
not sorted but just like kind of
frumpy like kind of just
what's the right word here like
a little disheveled
and very very parochial
I think that's the right word yeah yeah yeah
yeah because it because we cut to him like
they drive there
and then Sonja's doing practical jokes in the
car and he help he uses Lynn to help him
like confiscate this fake beard that she's using
and throw it out of the sun room
yeah yeah
um they get there they get to the car park
and then we have this like
incredible like probably the most famous
partridge scene where he spots Dan from across the car park
and just yells Dan like 400
times but he doesn't turn around he's like
I'll get him later
um and uh
then we have the bravery awards he's presenting
bravery awards to a woman who lost her hand
in a cake cutting machine
but
there's so many great details in this
like I don't know
he's giving this speech about how you know
she got in a taxi with her severed hand
and the taxi driver was quick thinking and stopped at a corner
shop where it was packed in lots of
Magnum's mini milks, ice lollies
and a feast
they sewed the hand back on it didn't work
um
but she now she now works at like
some admin job at a bay lift
and then and then he's like let's give a big hand
to Sue oh I mean
applause then we cut to them in the
party and then she's
the same woman is like taking stuff off the
buffet with her good hand and he's like
single hand Sue there tackling the buffet
one of the things that was
that was interesting to me about it was that all the
times that he puts his foot in his mouth or says something
really like unintentionally inappropriate
like what winds up happening like you expect
there to be some kind of blow up you expect the people to
like what the fuck is your problem but everyone just sort of like
does this sort of courage under
you know courage under fire sort of just
like oh I'll just pretend I didn't hear that just try
to act normal with this guy who's not normal at all
and it's a very different kind of
you know like I keep expecting
there to be a big scene where people get mad at him and
instead they're just like oh no he's just out of his mind
that's everyone in this country whatever
yeah basically um
well because it's like the uh
it's the thing in the thing in Britain
where like if someone's if someone's being
rude that's bad but if you're being rude back
that's even worse so like when someone's being rude
you just have to sort of ignore it and like plow
forwards um the most
you can be is passive aggressive
um yeah there's lots of
he has to meet Dan's wife at the sort of like
hobnobbing reception afterwards
um he then is trying to meet the woman
from Coleman's Mustard like yeah
the head of Coleman's Mustard and so
you and she's like in a circle talking to people
so he grabs one of the brave
people who's in a wheelchair and
uses her to like push his way through
this was absolutely the peak of the awkwardness
like I think the the unintentional sex
party thing at the end is less awkward to me
than this scene this this in particular just got me
yeah Nate was really white knuckling it
through this um and it is
it was the easily the most cringe part of the episode
yeah because he like wheels wheels
her up to this woman in order to get her attention
as soon as she's taken out and just like pushes her off
yeah just just just
have nightmares I just it's too awkward
too awkward I can't handle it
yeah and then much to his surprise
the Coleman's Mustard woman doesn't like him much
but really hits it off with Sonya
and invites her to a girls only party
yeah um
gender-critical Coleman's Mustard at it again
yeah she does kind of have the turf haircut
does the turf haircut doesn't she
does have a straight cut fringe
and uh yeah there's a bit where
yeah so Sonya is putting on some like
joke joke glasses with like eyeballs on spring
this is like I'm very brave my eyeballs fall out
the Coleman's Mustard woman is laughing
he's like that is the chip of the iceberg
you have no idea what you're getting into
um then he tries to impress her
by eating a spoonful of mustard
but he also had told her previously to try to
win her over that he has mental illness and she's like
I'm gonna give Sonya a number that you can call
like you need help brilliant stuff
yeah and then Alan is left for the evening
with nothing to do because Dan's disappeared
Lynn is out with her new boyfriend
and um uh Sonya
is off at this at this woman's house
uh and so he like he goes to the petrol station
and Michael's not there he goes to the arcade
and plays arcade games with children
there's a great just like montage
of him playing dance dance revolution
um and then he goes to Michael's house
who doesn't let him in but gives him
a cup of baked beans with a sausage in it
on the doorstep and he's like
have you got a spoon and he's like no
there's one in the bathroom like but of no cost
to use it
um
and it's just like there's a certain like bleakness
departure moments like that he's just like
oh yeah this man who's like completely friendless
um and then
in desperation he just shows up at Dan's house
who is excited to see him
at which point um uh
Dan's wife starts touching Alan's dick
and he sort of like moves away from her
and then they put on a video because he wants
to buy a kitchen so like oh this is a video
of a kitchen and it's like the two of them having
sex in a kitchen and he and Alan
is like studiously trying to talk
about the kitchen all day and it's like
it's like around at work so
talking about Korean
during a sex tape yeah
um yeah yeah
and then he's like is that real wood
and he's like no it's MDF I've got wood there
it's not wooden oh I see what you're doing
yeah so once once again
man bumbles his way into an awkward situation
and tries to bumble his way out of it but is
everyone is very excited to keep him
in this awkward situation oh exactly yeah
there's a point where he's like MDF's illegal
and then Dan's wife goes so is that
um Lynn shows up because he called her
and asked her to bring over uh kitchen brochures
and she walks in excitedly
accepts the offer of a drink while Alan is doing
the kind of like hand across throat gesture
um they go into the kitchen
to make drinks and then he's like Lynn these
are sex people
and uh shows of the video she's
shocked and making no excuses to the
even and Dan and his wife are saying how excited they are to listen to
his deep bath later uh
his wife goes in for a hug and he's like don't rob
your fanny on me
yeah it just uh it becomes
more and more this is a swingers
party he is in fact sex Ed Miliband
exactly imagine sex Ed Miliband
who's teaching you sex ed
exactly that's how it works
so yeah it's um
it's just it's just one big uncomfortable
mess the entire time and then he does
his radio show that book ends it and that's the end
of the episode it's like him doing his deep bath
but he he's like disgusted that they're going to be listening
to it in a horny way so he's like
just doing really perfunctory like
just scrub yourself off there's a coarse towel on the radiator
we won't be doing this
segment again
so let me ask you
like he's basically he's basically
British right he just hates people being horny
he does exactly don't get
horny about my radio you cannot get horny about the
radio show or my podcast for that matter
so let me ask you like what was the
like overall impact of this show
I presume it was pretty popular
yeah yeah I mean it's definitely more
of a cult thing
but
I would say certainly
certainly of like people who are like into British comedy
it's like one of the one of the sort of all time
greats really and it's definitely like I think
people of sort of like
my generation or like a little bit older
it's like a bit of a formative like
I guess because it was on in like the late
90s and early 2000 so it's a bit of a like
it's like ever so slightly
retro for me like the last season of it was like
2002
but for that reason it was the kind of thing
like when you're a teenager
for someone of my age it was
kind of a thing that like it wasn't on TV
anymore so it was kind of like a slightly underground
thing to like because it was like 20
years ago or whatever I'm trying to think of stuff that would be equivalent
to that in the US and the thing that's coming to my mind
like starting the late 90s
into the early 2000s is Chappelle's
show which was
hugely popular but wasn't at first
and then got to be hugely popular
like pretty quickly or an animated
show like The Boondocks is another example
that like you know was
not necessarily super popular on TV
but was like very very influential
and like people who liked it were really
into it but obviously those
were very very different shows
I'd say in terms of what kind of show
it is it's a bit more like Seinfeld and it's like
a bit of a comedy nerd thing
but obviously Seinfeld was like a huge hit
huge hit and obviously
ran for much much longer
all of the really good British
stuff it tends to be like shorter runs
usually apart from peep show which ran for like
nine seasons
I suppose we should talk about peep show at some point
although I feel like probably like Americans are much more
familiar with peep show than they are with
I don't really know I mean I think that people who are into
British comedy would be but I don't necessarily
think your average listener if they aren't
already kind of clued into British pop culture
stuff would know that much about it
quite frankly because like there is crossover
on that stuff but not a huge amount and like
it's also kind of I mean with streaming
or with torrenting stuff like you can get
it now but for a long time like it was kind of hard
to watch that stuff I think my buddy had like
intense satellite radio
or satellite TV whatever
extended cable and that's how he was able
to watch that Mitchell and Webb look
but that's obviously like
not a show that most or like the mighty
bush that's like not a show
that most Americans might be bush that was also
popular in America you know on a cold level
yeah yeah
there was that weird period in comedy
but particularly in British comedy where like
it was like everything's so
random
oh yeah I'm like a gay
squid
you ever drink Baileys out of a shoe
like you know
I see my man China yeah and everyone thought
that was like so funny in like 2005
and then like I was never really
much of a mighty bush person I do like
Noel Fielding I think he's quite a funny personality
but like yeah it was just very
very strange
vibe like I don't know I've never really got
a meme would absolutely love
mighty bush I feel I can say that
Dido from the meme Dino the Barrett
Holmes Audi A3
no actually no that's not very
my bush was more like
like alternative
like it was more something that like
I mean it was still quite mainstream but it was something that like
you're kind of like your teenagers
who were like Goths and Emos and stuff
when like that was kind of more like mighty
bush and then like the more like
straight down the line comedies that
people liked were stuff like the in-betweeners
or like or like little Britain yeah
that would be the kind of stuff that you're kind of more like
jock Barrett Holmes guys would like
okay yeah whereas
like yeah I remember
that like all of the all of the like
fucking you know black
eyeliner girls that I was into at school
were all into Noel Fielding that was
kind of the and so I had to like pretend
to be into Noel Fielding in order to
still not get but now you like
yeah I like him as a guy I still
don't really like mighty bush I think I was kind
of right about the mighty bush at the time and other
people have sort of aged into my opinion
which is they was just
like it's just such a weird era
of comedy where yeah it's just that like it's a random
yeah that's happened to me with music
where invariably it's something I don't like
winds up being cancelled because the person involved is
like a sex pest or something and I'm like see I was right
all along yeah oh no Fielding
is not a sex pest
but yeah I think
the comedy from that era that I really liked
on British TV was probably
Nevermind the Buzzcocks
I really liked which is like a kind of like
panel show music quiz thing
but when it was still hosted by Simon
Amstel
who's a very sort of like
a surbic like kind of
he's gay and like
he definitely has like a gay affect but like not
in a camp way it's kind of more in a sort of like
he has this kind of like
Oscar Wilde kind of sensibility almost
and I remember
there were just like iconic episodes that were
they were just because they would just get like washed up
pop stars on there who were like really stupid because
they spent like 20 years just doing drugs
like four times a day
I remember one time they had Preston on there
who we touched on a bit in the indie episode
The Frontman of the Ordinary Boys
one of the worst bands of all time
who had just been on
Celebrity Big Brother
we're probably due a bit of knowledge on Big Brother
probably have to because British reality TV like
is just
the Britain basically did invent that particular
curse of genre
and
he had been on Celebrity Big Brother
now it was enough of a stretch that Preston
was on Celebrity Big Brother but he
that year along with the celebrities
they threw in this woman called Chantel Houghton
who
was not famous but was a Paris Hilton
lookalike
and she did look quite a lot like Paris Hilton
some lookalikes are like this is ridiculous
but she was a pretty good
match for Paris Hilton and they just thought it would be funny
to throw someone in there who wasn't famous
but just looked like Paris Hilton
and
Preston and Chantel Houghton started having
this kind of like affair while they were in there
and then they came out and got married
now unfortunately even in comparison
to Preston from The Ordinary Boys
this woman was extremely stupid
and then so Simon Amstel
she wrote an autobiography
which had just come out
and so Simon Amstel is like
have you read your wife's autobiography
and he picks it up and Preston is just like giving him
this like dead eyed stare and he's like
I'm just going to read some excerpts from it
I thought you done
and he's got like posted notes together
and he's like read out a couple already in either
and just all between the rounds he's just like opening this book
and he's like this was a passage I particularly enjoyed
and there's one where he's just like
the photo shoot was for the Daily Mail
which made me feel really upmarket and classy
and then Preston stands up
and he like pulls his microphone off
and he's like I'm not fucking doing this anymore
you're all fucking mugs and like
and then Simon Amstel is like I'm just reading from your wife's
lovely book
and he's like have you not finished it I don't want to spoil the ending
and then they just get a guy out of the audience
to just come and sit in Preston's place
and they're like you don't really need to do much
you just need to look angry and every now and then say
that's bang out of order
and this guy was like fucking
that's bang out of order they were like yeah that's great
exactly
but yeah there was
like that couldn't be allowed to happen on British TV
now like all of those panel shows
have now been like completely muted
like I'm fucking Mock the Week
used to have Frankie Boyle on there as a resident
who would just say stuff like the Queen's Haunted
Vagina
or like the war in Afghanistan
is making sure we have an excellent Paralympic team
like shit like that
and you're just like
like that stuff used to be entertaining to watch
yeah there was the one I think Frankie Boyle
was hosting the one where the one of the
the woman comedians on there
was reading the sort of like whatever
documentary news
reportage thing about Laura Coonsburg
and Boris Johnson and she was like well they've
obviously banged I mean like that's the effect
of two people who have banged before and like everyone
was just like are we allowed to say this on TV
I'm like yeah I don't really think they
could do that even
like ironically nowadays
because the BBC's just gotten more and more
Tory and more
you know the haunted puppet spirit
of Andrew Doyle kind of infused in it
yeah and this is kind of
a thing I think where like
essentially like
political correctness and inclusivity
has sort of been like co-opted as a way of like
neutering comedy
like from the
because all of this stuff becomes like a tool of capitalism
like one way or another and so they've worked out
that that's like a good fig leaf way of like
stopping any kind of descent
by saying like oh Frankie Boyle's like
offensive and it's like yeah but
to who like and that kind of
but it's been a way of like just gently sort of like
flattening out and like taking all of these
things out of British TV
under a sort of like guise of
progressivism which isn't really there
which is why now TV sucks
yeah I mean they definitely don't want
things to be transgressive
you know you will not transgress
or transgend indeed in Britain
yeah exactly and everything that begins
with that prefix banned completely
absolutely man transistor radio
fuck it against the law
yeah
yeah well that's that I guess that's the thing
right like I don't know if the if you feel as though
this show would not
be able to be made today
I don't find anything about it
particularly like you know
offensive to what I can see
conceiv of is like the sort of
Tory broadcast
mores you know what I mean
yeah it's just it does
sort of feel of its time but then also it could have been made
five years ago the only thing is that guy still exists
there's just no smartphones in it
you know what I mean like yeah there's not as much
internet like almost none like
it's just that's the only difference
like it feels as though that that sort of
glum provincial Britain
lives on in eternity
and guys like Alan Parcher
is just sort of yeah
yeah yeah Alan Parcher is kind of
like the text
of a certain kind of guy
have you ever found yourself slipping into a
partridge moment by mistake
yeah I mean there's a certain kind of I think
partridge mindset which is in built into
almost every certainly British man
there are just aspects where it comes out
like it's so it's so well
observed as a parody of
British society in the way people operate
because it's not just about him it's about the people around
him as well and that kind of like in that way it's
a bit like Borat in that like
Alan Parcher being so
like
gauche and
maladois socially
they're like it like
showcases the kind of weird neuroses
of the people around him as well in the way that
like Borat does by like being insane
and then just like revealing the prejudices
of the people that he meets or whatever
and so
yeah I mean
who drives a lot constant partridge
shit like as soon as you start talking about cars
you just find yourself saying partridge stuff
and it's very
like yeah there is kind of an unwilling
I don't know with me and I find
this a lot about being a comedian like
or at least with the sort of stuff that I do
I'm so comfortable being
ironic about absolutely everything that kind of
what is my real personality and what is a bit
at this point has so completely merged
that
yeah I can't like
I almost can't tell the difference
well I suppose
it could be worse you could be disgraced
from comedy and having to host a provincial
radio show and still not know
what your actual personality is that is true
I think actually hosting a provincial radio show
would be pretty good especially in those days like
he's making pretty good money doing it like
you know just got to talk about your deep
bath you get paid like 150 grand
a driver Lexus wear a lot of cardigans
fucking Ukrainian
yeah have a have a have a lanyard
on your glasses you know it's all good
yeah absolutely yeah instead
we podcast we do podcast
that is what we do
with the Alan partridges of our own
era exactly and we don't realize
we're lapsing into self parity because
we're too busy
well trying to navigate
awkward social situations and grabbing
people in wheelchairs and using them to force our way
into into the conversation
circle of mustard heiresses
exactly and this is level
42
well
thank you for introducing me to this
it's been my pleasure I imagine that
I'm wearing my little sports watch that I wear
to track workouts and I'm sure there's a huge
stress spike on it from when I watched
this and cringed myself
nearly to death but I appreciate
now at least being a little bit more
clued in on your various
partridge in interventions
that take place on trash future
it's got to be done I mean you know if you
want to understand Kier Starmer first of all
you do have to watch Alan Partridge
that's the funny thing to me was
I had seen Partridge stuff before
like clips of it but not a full episode
but you referencing it I was like
ah yes so basically Kier Starmer
this is the voice he's somehow
blundering into taking a really firm
position on the death of an alpaca
yeah that would be that's incredibly Alan
Partridge to be like look
the alpaca needs to go
I've got TB
there's a bit about TB
I know, I know, I heard it
you've got to kill Badges Alan, they've got TB
so about the Brontices, wouldn't hit them on the head with a shovel
no matter how bad the books were
yeah exactly so
ultimately will I watch this
on my own volition?
No
but I'm grateful to have been
exposed to it because it now gives me
yet another lens
by which to interpret this strange
country that I found myself trapped
in, unable to leave
yeah you're stuck here with the Lexa
and the director's bitter. I'm from more than three years
now so
it's been a long time
yeah one day we just got to get Steve
Coogan on the show yeah yeah yeah
well I mean who knows maybe
maybe maybe he actually hates this fucking
show and it ruined his life but
it would be very funny if that was the case but
yeah no I think well he wrote it so I mean I think he's
pretty yeah he's a big
Jeremy Coogan guy as well
Steve Coogan based Steve Coogan
we appreciate him a lot
Steve Coogan loves pussy
loves Jeremy Coogan
allegedly
allegedly you know what top shagger
top Canadian hey absolutely
drives Alexis can't be wrong yeah
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