TRASHFUTURE - *UNLOCKED* Britainology 23: Alan Partridge

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

This month's unlocked Britainology involves Milo forcing Nate to watch an incredibly awkward episode of I'm Alan Partridge and then helping him talk him off the ledge. We also explore how Partrid...ge is not all that exaggerated a version of a British radio DJ, replete with some Richard Madeley and Jeremy Vine all-time classics. [If anything seems weirdly out-of-date, just remember that this was originally released on September 21, 2021]. To get more Britainology--and a ton of other bonus content, plus access to our Discord server--sign up on the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)            

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, and welcome to yet another episode of Brynology. I'm My Little Edwards, and I'm joined as ever by my co-host, Neighbors Day. Hello, it's a lovely day, perhaps some of the last nice end of summer weather that we will potentially get, although it already feels like autumn, let's be perfectly honest. Yeah. And soon it'll become the eternal British season of grey and wet and cold and dark. Our absolute favourite. Yeah, it's kind of an unseasonably warm September day today.
Starting point is 00:00:28 As opposed to unseasonably cold all of August and mostly all of July and pretty much all of June too. Yeah, I mean, we love to see it, don't we? We really needed a nice summer after the lockdowns and misery of the previous winter, and what we got was not that. No, no, we did not, we did not get that. The truest part of Brynology is of course the weather analysis at the start of every show. Yes. Because there's nothing more British than the weather.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Because when you hate literally everyone you encounter, but you feel obligated to make conversation with them, it is one of the few safe topics that one can complain about while not expressing an opinion about anything that really matters. That is very true, yeah. The only safe political topic in Britain is the weather which everyone hates. I've just had to open up Google Drive to get my notes up, and I love that now every time I open up Google Drive it's like, did you know you can block people on Google Drive now? In case the beef from the TL is really spilling over.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I think it's very funny to me sometimes because some of the shows that I produce, people upload their files to it like a Google Drive folder, you know, for each episode, and the block that person button is immediately adjacent to the download the file button, and it's just very, very funny to me. It's just sort of like, I'm wavering, like I might produce this episode, but I might say, fuck you, it's just ban you from your own show. You're bad. Yeah, you will so much power as the producer.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Stop producing episodes and just leaving one track out entirely. The Joker produces podcasts. Yeah, this is a long sign. It just randomly blocks people and refuses their audio. No way in the sense, yeah, to the Joker, this is a normal podcast. This is a regular future. Yeah, so this week on Britonology, we're talking about the most British thing imaginable. Alan Partridge.
Starting point is 00:02:09 That's correct. It's been mooted for a while doing this episode, and I wasn't quite sure how to tackle it because usually we talk about things that suck, and Alan Partridge is actually really good. But I think what I've decided is we have to put Alan Partridge in its wider British context. So I, against Nate's will, made him watch the episode Brave Alan, which is season two episode three of I'm Alan Partridge, which you might be more familiar with as the Dan episode.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And I think it's safe to say that Nate took some psychic damage from this. I really don't do well with concentrated awkwardness in shows. Curb Your Enthusiasm, very funny show, but I can't watch it because it's just that sort of thing nonstop. It's just not my thing. I don't like concentrated awkwardness. And this show is so much of that. And this particular episode was so much of that that I was just like,
Starting point is 00:03:03 I wasn't just cringing in terms of my reaction and spirit. I was like, white-knuckling my phone and gripping my own head. Just like, I cannot fucking believe I'm watching this. It's so, so awkward. I mean, I get a lot of references now of things that you guys have talked about on the show before where you bring up Partridge. But yeah, I was not prepared for how much awkwardness I was going to experience. And yeah, it says what it does, what it says on the tin.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, I picked this one because it's kind of the most, it's probably the most referenced Partridge episode. Like if you watch this one episode, you'll probably understand a lot more of like classic intercourse. Lin, these are sex people. You know, all of the classics. I think Lin, these are sex people. There's something I say probably on an at least daily basis.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, so the basic plot of the episode we watched is that Alan, who loves hanging out there. Because I think one of the things I want to get at in this episode is that sort of Alan Partridge is like a kind of archetypal British dad. It's interesting that you brought up Curb Your Enthusiasm because I also have that in my notes. Alan Partridge is kind of like a sort of British Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah, that was the first thing that came to mind.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah, he's not quite as... He's styled as a bit more of a dickhead and a fall guy than Larry David is in Curb Your Enthusiasm. But he still has this kind of thing where he's like an asshole, but he's also often right. And he's kind of stupid, but he's still smarter than a lot of the people around him. And so there's this kind of weird anti-hero type figure.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But yeah, the basics of Alan Partridge is just like, he likes everything that the most stereotypical middle-class dad would like. He listens to Rocheford, he drives Alexis. He knows a lot of things about screen wash and ordnance survey maps and refers to himself as buying sweets for the glove box. Is it true? He wears driving gloves. Yes, yes, he wears driving gloves.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And he has like a number of petty disputes and rivalries which come up in this episode like with the fellow late night DJ Dave Clifton, who he always manages to like bicker with in the show handover. So the show is always like the concept of Alan Partridge is that he used to be a TV star and then he had like a big sort of disgrace moment from TV and so he's had to become a local radio DJ back in his home county of Norfolk. But he likes to think of himself as like a big deal in the Norfolk area.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And so in this episode, he's hanging out at the petrol station with his friend Michael who works at the petrol station. So in the first season of Alan Partridge, he's living in a hotel and Michael is like the handyman at the hotel. And then the second season, Michael's now living in a caravan while he's waiting for his house to be built and Michael is working at the petrol station. Michael being immediately when Michael started talking,
Starting point is 00:06:08 Nate was like, what the fuck is that accent? Yeah, I was like, I know Norfolk accents are weird, but not that weird. Yeah, no, it's extremely Geordie. And so like there's this kind of weird dynamic where like Alan has all these people that he wishes he was friends with like contemptuous of Alan, but he also has all the people he's actually friends with who he is contemptuous of. So like Michael, his assistant Lynn, who's in love with him,
Starting point is 00:06:34 but who he treats terribly. And while he's in the petrol station, he meets Dan because another man pulls up in Lexus, which Michael points out. And they have this is another like extremely quoted exchange in Partridge where they're like, oh yeah, I love Lexi. Dan basically looks like sexual Ed Miliband. That's what I kept flashing through my mind was that he basically looks like if Ed Miliband opened the collar of his shirt,
Starting point is 00:07:03 didn't wear an undershirt and had a gold chain. He basically is that guy. Yeah, Dan's played by Stephen Mangan, who will be familiar to people who've watched British comedy. He's in like Green Wing and some other shows. Yeah, and they just realized that they love all the same things. So I think he's the biggest fan of the A416. One of the things that Partridge really nails is like details of ephemera.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Just like the sort of thing that like a guy who thinks of himself as a big deal in like a regional sense. But oh, Kitchen Planet on the A416 classic. It's only the biggest kitchen showroom in Europe. Like that level of just like detailed obsession is like, I don't know, it really nails a certain kind of guy. Every time you ever do the Anorak voice, you sound like Alan Partridge,
Starting point is 00:07:50 which makes me think that he's sort of like within that general wheelhouse of like could be an Anorak, but isn't necessarily, but he's like predisposed towards that same, that sort of like fixated personality. He definitely seems like he comes across as someone who has no idea what's going on, but is sort of narrating dumb shit around him like a radio DJ, but has zero idea of what's actually happening.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I mean, I get it. It's a comedy show. It's tailored to the British sensibility, but having seen this like I'm appreciative that I now get the jokes to some extent, but I would definitely not watch this. Yeah. It's definitely one of the more awkward episodes that you watch, but like definitely the whole thing with Partridge is being super awkward.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I mean, there's another really famous episode where he goes, basically there's a guy who's the controller at the BBC channel that he wants to get back on, who he hates, who dies suddenly. And then one of Alan's friends becomes the controller of the channel. So he's pretty sure he's going to get back on TV and he goes to this guy's funeral in order to like network with the BBC people there. And there's a point where he's like talking to the widow. He's being like, yeah, it's such a shame.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You know, what was he doing up on the roof? And then he like spots someone that he wants to network with and he's like, would it be terribly rude if I left you and want to spoke to someone else? And then as he turns around, he's wearing like a black jacket. And as you turn around, you just see that the jacket says Castrol GTX on the back. It's just like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is primed to make me blow all my circuits
Starting point is 00:09:25 and like run from the room in terror. Exactly. And I don't even think this is a particularly American tendency. I know Alice's husband, Chris, has the same tendency. I think that like you either have it or you don't. And I know plenty of like one of my best friends from America, extremely American, loves Caribbean enthusiasm, really loves that Michelin web look.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Like awkwardness doesn't phase him at all. He's 100% into that, but I just can't handle it. Like it's just, it's just, it's just unpleasant. Yeah, some things I do find too good. Like peep show, I would say is more cringe than this. And like there are some points in peep show where I'm a bit like, oh... Yeah, I mean... I know where they're eating the fucking dog.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So they're having to pretend that it's like some barbecue because they don't want to admit to this woman that they killed her dog and then tried to cremate it to hide the evidence. It's going, mmm, delicious barbecue. Jesus Christ. You know, that I was watching that like, oh... There was a show when I was a kid. It was in some markets in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It was called the John Leguizamo show. And in others it was called House of Buggin. It was like a sketch comedy show. That sounds like a bit, just like the John Leguizamo show, or as it was also known, House of Buggin. Yeah, it was called House of Buggin where I lived in New Mexico. And I think West Coast markets got it that,
Starting point is 00:10:40 but like on the East Coast, they called it something different. And got to market it to the Italians on East Coast. Well, John Leguizamo was Puerto Rican and he did... It was basically like... The best way to describe it is sort of like Latino sketch comedy. It was really funny, but it definitely crossed into some like,
Starting point is 00:10:56 some just like deeply fucking uncomfortable stuff. And it's weird to me because it's like, as a kid, I just thought that was hilarious. And now I'm just sort of like... They would do these things where basically they would recreate urban legends that go around people's stories and things like that. And there was one about like,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the guys who got... They ordered KFC and they wound up eating rats by mistake and stuff like that. And it would just be like really, really gross at times or really like uncomfortably sexual. And it's weird because yeah, as like an 11-year-old, I watched this and I'm like, oh, it's funny, whatever. It's funny. And now it's just like...
Starting point is 00:11:28 If I try to watch even like a mundane Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, it's just like, I cannot handle this shit. I don't know why. I don't know what switch got flipped in me. But watching this literally within five minutes, as soon as he left the radio station, I was just like... Yeah. I mean, there was, of course, a gag about level 42. It was, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I don't even like level 42 that much, but the fact that I like them at all made you lose your mind. And now you love to make fun of me for it, even though I genuinely like two songs by level 42. I think Brit Funk in general was pretty good, but like, I don't know that much about it. So you want to own me for that, whatever. Like, you know...
Starting point is 00:12:04 I think it was just because you're American and I couldn't believe you were even aware... Like, level 42 is such a like particular kind of like British dad music that it's like... Well, yeah, we think it was the air it came out into. Well, that song, Something About Us... Like, it's Alan Partridge. Was it Something About Us or Something About You?
Starting point is 00:12:20 I can't remember the exact title. That was a huge hit in America. I don't know stuff like that. But like, that's why I know them. Not because I'm like, you know, making fucking pilgrimage to England so I can like complete my fandom of early 80s so I can soft rock dance music.
Starting point is 00:12:36 If I was going to do that shit, it would be for fucking Duran Duran. All right, so get it straight. You'll come to Essex. They're from Birmingham. They're good too, but I think they got out of fucking electronic music geysers. I mean, it is funny when you think about how many
Starting point is 00:12:52 of the like luminaries of second British invasion, electronic, you know, synth pop music are not just from Essex, but they're all literally from... From the Netherlands. Well, no, we'll live from the Netherlands too. But hilariously, they are all actually from... Like, there's so many from Basildon.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Why? I have no idea. But, you know, it's the thing. Like, if you like that music, you got to go to England, I guess, to appreciate it. And we'll only hang out with boomers if you like that shit. Grew up on the Las Vegas strip. Exactly. So, yeah, level 42.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I did, of course, get that joke. I didn't realize it had such a connotation as being like pure dad music in the UK, but... Yeah, I love the radio. Like, every hour in Partridge episode, much like the Seinfeld episodes are like bookended with the bits. Like, Partridge episodes are usually bookended
Starting point is 00:13:42 with clips of him doing his radio show. Which are always great because, like, one of the start of this episode is the phone-in, where it's like, what happens after we die? And, like, it's just, it's perfectly pitched because British radio phone-ins are so insane. I mean, I know you have your own kind of insane radio,
Starting point is 00:13:58 but in, like, in Britain, there's, like, a kind of, there's a subtle madness to it that's really infectious. And, like, this is just, like, perfectly pitched. So, what happens after we die? And it's like, oh, yeah, like, wherever the guy's name is, he has three beautiful children, including a new baby girl, Sarah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And he thinks that after we die, there is nothing. Then it's just like, this is level 42. Like, that amazing switch from something like really bleak and then straight into, like, some music from the 80s. Well, I mean, we just had the leading Britain's conversations, you know, a fucking snap
Starting point is 00:14:30 that got put around all over social media about the woman calling in and being like, well, if Afghans didn't work for the British government, then their lives are not worth anything more than dogs. Save the dogs instead. I prefer the dogs. And people just be like, hey, she's entitled to her opinion. So, yeah, somewhere where British
Starting point is 00:14:46 call-in radio is a bit much. And this is something I really love about Partridge, because it's a satire of, like, a certain kind of British guy. But also, it's an amazing satire of British media. And I think the longer I've spent working in, like,
Starting point is 00:15:02 media or media adjacent sphere, you see you just see it everywhere. So, I want to talk about some real-life partridges. And I think we would it would be a miss of us not to begin with fucking Richard Maidley. So, I'm going to play you a short video.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We can cut the audio from this in, because this is just a compilation of, like, Richard Maidley's most Alan Partridge moments. Just to explain who Richard Maidley is, he is, like, a British kind of TV personality in that manner of, like, no one can really tell
Starting point is 00:15:34 you what he initially got famous for. Like, he's just a guy who's on TV. Like, it's that kind of... And he has a wife who's... I guess he's probably in his, like, late 50s now. He has a wife who's, like, quite a lot older than him. She's probably in, like, her mid-70s called Judy Finnegan. And they had a long-running, like,
Starting point is 00:15:50 daytime sort of talk magazine show called Richard and Judy, where they would have, like, a book club and, like, all this kind of... Just really weird. And I remember a few years ago, there was some, like, Richard Maidley gave some interview where he talked about, like, the string of lovers he had before Judy
Starting point is 00:16:06 Finnegan. And someone... I think it might have been Vorn, who's a British radio DJ, started calling him Richard's sex Maidley, and I've just never been able to get over it. It's gone six o'clock. Look who's here. Hello. TV legend Richard Maidley. Did you see I fluffed my first link? And here is Alex
Starting point is 00:16:22 with the first look today's work. Hello, good morning. My daughter fancies you, by the way. You look at the beach and you think, ah, pretty, pretty, lovely golden sound. That's safe. Uh-uh. Not in certain parts of the country. Quicksand. And a horrible way to die. Why shall I not be allowed a GMT or a glass of wine with the meal on a flight because of these idiots? Having knocked someone out,
Starting point is 00:16:38 which means you've given them brain damage, that's medically speaking. Do you make a lot of money? Are you rich? Are you rich? Uh, yeah. Are you? Come on, it's a serious question. Are you able to make good money? Do people just want to know? I'm just asking. I just want to know if there's money to be made. I'm not, I'm not. It used to be. You just used to see a guy beaten to a pulp, basically.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You know, Gabby Roslyn, the presenter, once I saw her in a restaurant, and I was chatting to her, and she was super thin and slim and looking great, and I said, Gabby, are you... are you expecting? She went, no, what are you suggesting? It was all right. We had a laugh. Now, probably because of all the programming that I've done, particularly with Judy about anorexia and eating disorders,
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'll say this, I probably would have clocked it. And then Judy got pregnant very quickly again. It was an accident. Sorry, Chloe, but you were... It's good to share. And you know it. The very first time I appeared on live television was on this morning. It happened to be modelling raincoats. Yes. All right, then let's move on. Here's Lucy
Starting point is 00:17:26 with her first look at today's weather. And this morning, she's up on the ITV roof. Just absolutely incredible. It is interesting to me that this is definitely based... Alan Partridge is an exaggeration of a type of guy, but that that guy does exist. You know what?
Starting point is 00:17:46 The thing is, it's almost as though Alan Partridge is barely even an exaggeration of someone like Richard Maitley. I mean, maybe it's like the persona of Alan Partridge not on the radio is an exaggeration, but the persona of Alan Partridge is Radio Show.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It's barely even satire. It's almost like a blow-for-blow recreation of an exact... The bit where Richard Maitley was like, the beach seems pretty fun. Not for some though, can be dangerous. Quicksand, a horrible way to die. That is exactly something that Alan Partridge
Starting point is 00:18:18 would do on his radio show. Yeah, I mean, that's... It's wild to me because I would have thought that this was a huge send up. And they've created Radio DJ Mr. Bean kind of just perfect idiot.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But you're right. It's not that dissimilar to some of the people that are actually on TV. And these people earn millions. Because there's even a bit in this Alan Partridge episode where he's doing the Alan's Deep Bath segment and the concept of it is supposed to be like a kind of like, you know, like the sexy
Starting point is 00:18:50 sensual late night radio thing and it's like Alan's Deep Bath and they're playing slow jams and whatever and he's going like, oh yeah, just get the suds going and close your eyes. Listen to the sounds of the music washing over you. And then he goes like, try not to slip under
Starting point is 00:19:06 some terrifying statistics about that. It's like just pitch perfect Maitley. Yeah, there was another actual Richard Maitley recently and this is another way in which sort of like Maitley and like Jeremy Vine who we'll get onto
Starting point is 00:19:22 they embody Partridge in the sense that like, there were a lot of British radio and TV personalities like people like, I don't know, like Nick Ferrari or Ian Dale who are just cunts like they're just, they're just horrible. And they're not, they can be a bit Partridge sometimes, but the thing about Partridge
Starting point is 00:19:38 is it's like kind of there's a sort of, there's like a reasonableness to him, like he takes things too far, but it's not like a, he's not supposed to be like a cunt. He's supposed to be like kind of like uncouth and a bit of an asshole, but like he's not supposed to be bad.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's like a kind of a fair way, not necessarily like a deliberately being a twat kind of way. Yeah, he's not like callous and I think this is something you can kind of say of someone like Maitley because like he's often sort of like weirdly right, but in a kind of just such a bizarre way. There was, he got
Starting point is 00:20:10 he was going viral recently because Shemima Begum's been back in the news and they were doing like a, like a text in thing on his TV show about whether she should be let back into Britain and obviously they were getting lots of insane messages and
Starting point is 00:20:26 Maitley is like, well, I'll tell you one thing. After World War II we put a lot of the Nazis on trial at Nuremberg and we even hung a lot of them but we never did that with the Hitler Youth, did we? Did we? Never went after the Hitler Youth. I think, interesting that, first thinking about
Starting point is 00:20:42 which is like like I sort of understand the point that he was making that like, yeah she's a child and that you know, she was groomed sort of thing, but like kind of, and so he is sort of right, but it's like just kind of this like absolutely bizarre angle. 100% yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And so that's kind of, that's the soul of a certain kind of guy. I also wanted to talk about a Jeremy Vine phone in. Regular listeners to trash feature and followers of me on Twitter will be aware that I am a massive Jeremy Vine head. I think Jeremy Vine
Starting point is 00:21:14 he fascinates me. Like, the radio show that he does he's on radio too, which is like the most like your mom ass thing to listen to on BBC Radio. They play like kind of pop music ish but like from like whatever era it is
Starting point is 00:21:30 and it has like really safe like Gen Xer and Boomer presenters. Like very like easy listening type shit, but like the call-ins and stuff they have are absolutely deranged. So let's do a clip from Jeremy Vine because
Starting point is 00:21:49 ELO hold on tight. We'll talk about ISIS in a second. Just think about the caller we had yesterday who said that they were demonic and satanic. Can we put them on a spectrum of evil? Love you to call on that. 0500 288 291. Now yesterday we were discussing
Starting point is 00:22:14 Islamist militants in Iraq but are these Sunni Muslim extremists ISIS in a different category of evil? How do they compare to the mass murderers of the past? Where do they stand on the historic spectrum of evil?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Can you even put them on it? Do we have to go back to the Nazis to find anyone as wicked as this lot? 0500 288 291 do call us 0500 I say the number email vine at BBC.co.uk John in Hertfordshire emails when I hear people talk about ISIS
Starting point is 00:22:46 how they've not seen such brutality since the Nazis. Let's not forget Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in the 70s when they murdered 2 million. The similarities with ISIS are shocking. We're looking at the spectrum of evil we're saying of this lot
Starting point is 00:23:02 the most wicked lot we've seen since Hitler's gang. 012 30 It's so good. It's the transition from like are they as evil as the Khmer Rouge and then just like fading in some hell but hell but hell in Southern California. Let's just do
Starting point is 00:23:18 a few more comments talking about ISIS and then we're going to move on for sure. Patrick Eudes in Aberdeen says ISIS are purely evil. We should just fight fire with fire. I don't know what that means if you've seen them beheading people
Starting point is 00:23:34 trying to understand them is wrong but we should not go down that road. I believe the Nazis were also evil but they were slightly more humane than ISIS. Andrew Doke emails Of course they're not the most evil things since the Nazis What about Bosnia, Rwanda, the Khmer Rouge
Starting point is 00:23:50 in Cambodia? Somebody also mentioned Shining Path in Peru as well Every day says Andrew there are rapes in the Congo Humans are just bad. Coming up next the Brick Shortage in the UK. Pitch Perfect Partridge
Starting point is 00:24:06 going from genocide to brick shortage to the national brick shortage Why do we need bricks anyway? Can't you build a house without them? They've got clever ways of just bringing a trap with a wall and dropping it there The noises you can hear are from John White, a bricklayer
Starting point is 00:24:22 John Hi! Hello there I love the sound and it reminds me of as a child actually somebody built a wall and I used to just watch them doing it and of course it's one of the best skills because you can, what I asked you or just off mic before we started is if you taught me how to lay bricks what do you want to learn? Could I then build a house?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Spend how long we're talking I'll give it a year We're pushing it At what point would I use a plum line? No, we don't really use plum lines I thought you had to drop it from a piece of string Not nowadays, yeah No, lasers now
Starting point is 00:24:56 This conversation about bricks in the meeting is the longest conversation we've had for years on any story Are you against pebble dashing? Of course I am It's horrible, isn't it? Why does anyone do that? Should it be made illegal? I think so, yes
Starting point is 00:25:12 God damn it It's just so good Oh my god What you love, I know you love because you commute so much you love listening to talk radio and just like it's fodder for bits but also like, I don't know, it feels as though
Starting point is 00:25:28 you're sort of jacked into the British matrix when you're driving in from Essex, crossing over and listening to this shit on the radio Oh, absolutely My mom has the radio on all day for companies, so if I'm ever at home and she'll listen to radio too
Starting point is 00:25:44 but I often, and it's amazing because she, and I think this is how a lot of people consume this stuff she just listens to the radio, but she's not remotely paying attention to it, but I kind of have that kind of brain where if something like it will just catch my attention and so I'll periodically be like
Starting point is 00:26:00 what the fuck is this I'm like Jeremy Vine's having a fucking phone in about how evil eyes this are and asking people to rate them on a scale of evil and then my mom will be like I'm not really listening to it and I'm like how can you not listen to this
Starting point is 00:26:16 like how is someone another great Jeremy Vine one was he was having a phone in about what the loudest appliances were because it was like there was something like loud appliances are louder than a petrol lawn mower
Starting point is 00:26:32 and then someone phoned in and was like oh I've got a really loud kettle and he's like okay so he like puts the kettle on and he's like oh yeah that's quite loud and then and he's like and I've brought my lawn mower in the house for comparison and then Jeremy Vine's like no there's no need and he just like starts the lawn mower
Starting point is 00:26:48 which is obviously deafening and he's like it's quite loud and he's like yeah you can turn it off now and he's going what hahaha um yeah it's just I don't know but yeah that whole thing about just like yeah every day says Andrew there are rapes in the Congo
Starting point is 00:27:04 coming up next the brick shortage in the UK yeah there's an extent to which I I find myself just really really confused by this because the affect of American talk radio is very different you spent time in the US I don't know how much you've heard but it's yeah you know news commentary
Starting point is 00:27:22 terrible skits terrible songs stuff that goes on way too long shock jock stuff if you're familiar listeners if you're familiar with street fight radio of the great podcast out of Columbus Ohio they do a lot of bits talking about like
Starting point is 00:27:38 the heyday of horrible shock jocks in the 90s and 2000s and like recapping and doing like profiles on the awful when we say shock jocks like what we mean by this is sort of talk radio hosts on either AM or FM radio who just like their whole thing is just being like contrarian or transgressive
Starting point is 00:27:54 or just like trying to shock you and just like you know Howard Stern is the great example of this but there are a lot of like low rent Howard Stern impersonators who kind of like go in that in that vein of things of the sort of Andrew Dice Clay
Starting point is 00:28:10 genre of comedy but done on on radio where like there's a limit to the dirty words you can say but like they're constantly doing shit I mean the big thing of the big kind of you know stock kind of like punching bag for them was just like being misogynist or like making gay jokes or stuff like that
Starting point is 00:28:26 and it's weird how much that stuff changed even since when I was a kid because like there was a more or less informative there was a show called love phones that was on the radio that was like a sex advice show that came on like my god npm and it was like there was a woman host
Starting point is 00:28:42 who was a like a sex therapist like a doctor and then they just had like a guy who was just like a talk radio comedian shock jock guy and so she would like give sex advice and he would just kind of make fun of callers and play drops and stuff like that like there would be you know when people call in
Starting point is 00:28:58 and something about being gay or having gay sex or I am I gay or something like that he would play like there was one drop of a very obviously supposed to be gay man saying you or he would play another one that was the quote from if you're familiar with the movie Friday when the guys talk about how his dad's talking about how he loves being a dog
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm not sure because he hates dogs and then basically just beating the shit out of dogs or kicking a dog in the ass and just going bang bang bang up his ass and like that they would use that fucking drop all the time and this sort of show like I said is notionally meant to be informative imagine like messaging into
Starting point is 00:29:30 that show when you like having listened to it before like being like yeah I want to get some advice and also I want to kind of play a drop that says bang bang bang up his ass yeah exactly and some of the call I mean my god some of the callers were insane but it was a different kind of insane this is like a weird sort of pedestrian like
Starting point is 00:29:46 not self-aware insane whereas like the guy calling up love phones and talk about how like he's like yeah you know I had a girlfriend a long time but found something that's worked in the meantime right so like a microwave a cut a hole in a watermelon and a microwave of about 30 seconds and I sexed the hell
Starting point is 00:30:02 out of that thing like that kind of stuff coming I remember this one I was like 13 listening to this show avidly um and it's just it was a very very different I mean like I'm not even talking about like the rush limbaugh style shit which is like obviously the reason why Mike Pence is a politician it's just because of am talk radio
Starting point is 00:30:18 like conservative talk radio like that kind of stuff well I'm just talking about like pedestrian kind of weird shit like absolutely we have it it's just not like this I've never heard American talk show being like ISIS can you evrate them on a spectrum call it with your examples yeah it's incredible that there's like a real
Starting point is 00:30:34 there's a rich rain running through a rich vein rather running through British talk radio of like just encouraging the British public to have like weird opinions or like just to have like to like voice their opinion on something which obviously nobody knows about I mean
Starting point is 00:30:50 a debate they often refer to back a lot when I think about this stuff and um this is also Jeremy Vine I think was there having a debate about having a four day working week which was like pretty normal for Jeremy Vine but they had like a guy who was like an economist from Oxford on there basically explaining the case
Starting point is 00:31:06 of a four day week and then they had someone else on the line who was like just a guy and then and then there's economists being like yeah well I mean you know I think they'll actually increase productivity and you know people will have more free time and it was basically a win-win and then this guy is going yeah but that's bollocks and then the professor is always going
Starting point is 00:31:22 like well why is it bollocks and he's like well I think it's bollocks don't like it this is cool exactly like just like that and in Britain that qualifies as a debate it's like well here's a guy who's like researched this thing as a guy who thinks it's bollocks it's really funny because that's like the real world
Starting point is 00:31:38 real world version of the uh the onion may still do this but they used to do this thing the point counterpoint where it would just be like like a very obvious uh like basically two incredibly stupid opinions or like like a normal opinion and a completely insane opinion that was like the point counterpoint
Starting point is 00:31:54 and the one I remember the most was like right around the time the US was about to invade Iraq it was like this war will will set off you know a generational conflict and destabilize the entire region versus the the counterpoint was no it won't and it's just like it's basically that yeah like that but but you're saying British radio
Starting point is 00:32:10 is doing this for real yeah exactly but a lot of it is really mundane and I think that's the best uh the best quality of it seems like what they're looking for is like the most unself-aware eccentric opinions like as much as people act shocked they genuinely want to hear that
Starting point is 00:32:26 or at least the producers want to hear it because they know it'll make people laugh and be like can you believe this idiot etc etc yeah I've just been uh name searching myself and Jeremy Vine on Twitter to uh recall some of his best moments I've noticed that for a lot of them I've used this same screencap from Alan Bancho which is
Starting point is 00:32:42 the image um this is a great one uh Jeremy Vine on radio 2 is reading out people's home injury stories and just said then he fell from the ladder and the shears went through his eye here's Roxy Music it's just so good it's perfect like
Starting point is 00:32:58 it genuinely is a comedian you're like you're like I can't top that like it's so well judged like it's this is what I mean when it's like partridge is non-exaggeration like it's just like what Steve Coogan is good at doing is like replicating it in the same way that like
Starting point is 00:33:14 people were like so bad at replicating Trump and that was why Trump parodies were so bad because Trump himself is so funny like as a Trump parody the best you can do is really just like a faithful sort of interpretation of what Trump would say about something here's another one Jeremy Vine just had a woman call in about her 10 siblings
Starting point is 00:33:30 in their 70s 80s and 90s who are still alive and then said and you're all still alive cryy key have any brushes with death hahahaha absolutely wonderful way Keith James is the most normal British DJ
Starting point is 00:33:46 well exactly yeah Jeremy Vine is on the radio suggesting quarantine could be a good time to go back to having weekly bonfires in your garden like his dad used to do hahahaha someone just texted into Jeremy Vine I didn't even realize that I posted
Starting point is 00:34:02 about Jeremy Vine this much someone just texted Jeremy Vine to complain that their neighbors are having constant hot tub parties where they play loud music and have quote-unquote vile conversations hahahaha Lynn these are sex people hahahaha
Starting point is 00:34:18 we haven't even gotten into the plot of the episode yet we haven't even gotten into the explanation of that but please continue on this riff though I appreciate it I did want to remember um because I think this is so Jeremy Vine oh yeah if you're wondering how Britain is doing during the crisis
Starting point is 00:34:34 Jeremy Vine is currently on radio too hosting a heated debate between a jogger and a dog walker about who is more entitled to their space on the paper hahahaha hahahaha um yeah but yeah again Jeremy Vine is like a guy who like I mean that that radio show
Starting point is 00:34:50 is absolutely insane but also like it's usually Jeremy Vine kind of like raising his eyebrow at people being insane it's not like Nick Ferrari or something where he's being like yeah like fucking you know whatever push back the asylum boats or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:35:06 like Jeremy Vine is like he kind of has like a sort of like a sort of soft left sensibility I would say um in a very like boomer sort of way but like he's quite like um uh he will often say things on talk radio that are like surprisingly left wing by like British
Starting point is 00:35:22 broadcasting standards like I remember like during the pandemic he was having something where he was doing a phone in about um like uh remuneration and wages and stuff in Britain he was saying yeah because now we've kind of realised that a hospital cleaner is sort of more useful than a
Starting point is 00:35:38 lot of chief executives what someone's saying this on British radio yeah exactly and what the fuck is going on um but yeah I remember there's a great there's a great moment in Alan Partridge where um he's really he's really pissed off the farmers because he said something about farmers on the radio
Starting point is 00:35:54 I kind of remember what it was something about how they're all like genetically modifying chickens or something and uh and so he's got all these farmers like angrily calling in his radio show to yell at him but he's trying to have a phone in competition about guessing who invented the skip and so they thought we were going into like
Starting point is 00:36:10 you should be ashamed of yourself and he's going who invented the skip the guy the guy's like I don't know who invented the bloody skip Bobby Moore I couldn't even tell you yeah so periodically I'm just like who invented the skip um but yeah the plot of the episode he meets Dan we then get a scene back
Starting point is 00:36:26 at uh Alan Partridge's uh static caravan where he lives where he has an amstrad e-mailer um and his Ukrainian girlfriend Sonya who's like a mail order bride is like doing lots of practical jokes on him like giving him a sandwich with a plastic egg in it
Starting point is 00:36:42 and a whoopee cushion and stuff and he's like just exasperated by this um and then she while he's on the phone to Dan she attacks him with a rubber hammer and he's like oh that's just my Ukrainian girlfriend she's she's mildly crattiness I knew when I heard that line I was like oh my god this is this is absolute
Starting point is 00:36:58 catnip for Milo sense of humor this is just premium the kind of shit that would stick rattle around in your skull forever the after the first time you heard it oh yeah absolutely I mean it won't surprise you to learn that university I was a big I was a big partridge head I was always always quoting that shit not not a surprise at all
Starting point is 00:37:14 it comes in he's walks in walking into the shot in the static caravan doing up his trousers and sticking on the extractor fan and saying Sonya that was classic intercourse um yeah Lynn comes around and she's telling him about her like new
Starting point is 00:37:30 sort of like male friend and call a type guy uh and he tries to convince her that he's a con man that he's interested in her building society book um and then yeah she's talking about how they got stranded at the place because it was raining and she's like we just kept laughing and saying we're
Starting point is 00:37:46 stuck he's like Lynn you're laughing at weather like your mother in her last few weeks um yeah and then uh so Dan invites him to go and present an award at the Norfolk bravery awards again such a powerful British vibe I think the fact that when they you get there and it's the
Starting point is 00:38:02 Coleman mustard presents Norfolk bravery awards I was like all right I do actually get that reference yeah good on you we love to see it yeah there's a yeah a portrait has a great way of like imagining things that aren't real but so easily could be the Coleman's and the mustard Norfolk bravery awards
Starting point is 00:38:18 it's very funny to me because my mom's whole family is from Norfolk so like I've not spent any time there aside from like a very brief period as a little kid but like it is very interesting to see how it's sort of portrayed as like this extreme backwater but also like full of people who are kind of uh believe themselves to be very important
Starting point is 00:38:34 and uh yeah I mean I feel like I'm from a state that's basically that so I absolutely understand it you know like it's just uh it's an interesting vibe but it also doesn't really shy away from making everything look not sorted but just like kind of frumpy like kind of just
Starting point is 00:38:50 what's the right word here like a little disheveled and very very parochial I think that's the right word yeah yeah yeah yeah because it because we cut to him like they drive there and then Sonja's doing practical jokes in the car and he help he uses Lynn to help him
Starting point is 00:39:06 like confiscate this fake beard that she's using and throw it out of the sun room yeah yeah um they get there they get to the car park and then we have this like incredible like probably the most famous partridge scene where he spots Dan from across the car park and just yells Dan like 400
Starting point is 00:39:22 times but he doesn't turn around he's like I'll get him later um and uh then we have the bravery awards he's presenting bravery awards to a woman who lost her hand in a cake cutting machine but there's so many great details in this
Starting point is 00:39:38 like I don't know he's giving this speech about how you know she got in a taxi with her severed hand and the taxi driver was quick thinking and stopped at a corner shop where it was packed in lots of Magnum's mini milks, ice lollies and a feast they sewed the hand back on it didn't work
Starting point is 00:39:54 um but she now she now works at like some admin job at a bay lift and then and then he's like let's give a big hand to Sue oh I mean applause then we cut to them in the party and then she's the same woman is like taking stuff off the
Starting point is 00:40:10 buffet with her good hand and he's like single hand Sue there tackling the buffet one of the things that was that was interesting to me about it was that all the times that he puts his foot in his mouth or says something really like unintentionally inappropriate like what winds up happening like you expect there to be some kind of blow up you expect the people to
Starting point is 00:40:26 like what the fuck is your problem but everyone just sort of like does this sort of courage under you know courage under fire sort of just like oh I'll just pretend I didn't hear that just try to act normal with this guy who's not normal at all and it's a very different kind of you know like I keep expecting there to be a big scene where people get mad at him and
Starting point is 00:40:42 instead they're just like oh no he's just out of his mind that's everyone in this country whatever yeah basically um well because it's like the uh it's the thing in the thing in Britain where like if someone's if someone's being rude that's bad but if you're being rude back that's even worse so like when someone's being rude
Starting point is 00:40:58 you just have to sort of ignore it and like plow forwards um the most you can be is passive aggressive um yeah there's lots of he has to meet Dan's wife at the sort of like hobnobbing reception afterwards um he then is trying to meet the woman from Coleman's Mustard like yeah
Starting point is 00:41:14 the head of Coleman's Mustard and so you and she's like in a circle talking to people so he grabs one of the brave people who's in a wheelchair and uses her to like push his way through this was absolutely the peak of the awkwardness like I think the the unintentional sex party thing at the end is less awkward to me
Starting point is 00:41:32 than this scene this this in particular just got me yeah Nate was really white knuckling it through this um and it is it was the easily the most cringe part of the episode yeah because he like wheels wheels her up to this woman in order to get her attention as soon as she's taken out and just like pushes her off yeah just just just
Starting point is 00:41:50 have nightmares I just it's too awkward too awkward I can't handle it yeah and then much to his surprise the Coleman's Mustard woman doesn't like him much but really hits it off with Sonya and invites her to a girls only party yeah um gender-critical Coleman's Mustard at it again
Starting point is 00:42:06 yeah she does kind of have the turf haircut does the turf haircut doesn't she does have a straight cut fringe and uh yeah there's a bit where yeah so Sonya is putting on some like joke joke glasses with like eyeballs on spring this is like I'm very brave my eyeballs fall out the Coleman's Mustard woman is laughing
Starting point is 00:42:22 he's like that is the chip of the iceberg you have no idea what you're getting into um then he tries to impress her by eating a spoonful of mustard but he also had told her previously to try to win her over that he has mental illness and she's like I'm gonna give Sonya a number that you can call like you need help brilliant stuff
Starting point is 00:42:38 yeah and then Alan is left for the evening with nothing to do because Dan's disappeared Lynn is out with her new boyfriend and um uh Sonya is off at this at this woman's house uh and so he like he goes to the petrol station and Michael's not there he goes to the arcade and plays arcade games with children
Starting point is 00:42:54 there's a great just like montage of him playing dance dance revolution um and then he goes to Michael's house who doesn't let him in but gives him a cup of baked beans with a sausage in it on the doorstep and he's like have you got a spoon and he's like no there's one in the bathroom like but of no cost
Starting point is 00:43:10 to use it um and it's just like there's a certain like bleakness departure moments like that he's just like oh yeah this man who's like completely friendless um and then in desperation he just shows up at Dan's house who is excited to see him
Starting point is 00:43:26 at which point um uh Dan's wife starts touching Alan's dick and he sort of like moves away from her and then they put on a video because he wants to buy a kitchen so like oh this is a video of a kitchen and it's like the two of them having sex in a kitchen and he and Alan is like studiously trying to talk
Starting point is 00:43:42 about the kitchen all day and it's like it's like around at work so talking about Korean during a sex tape yeah um yeah yeah and then he's like is that real wood and he's like no it's MDF I've got wood there it's not wooden oh I see what you're doing
Starting point is 00:43:58 yeah so once once again man bumbles his way into an awkward situation and tries to bumble his way out of it but is everyone is very excited to keep him in this awkward situation oh exactly yeah there's a point where he's like MDF's illegal and then Dan's wife goes so is that um Lynn shows up because he called her
Starting point is 00:44:16 and asked her to bring over uh kitchen brochures and she walks in excitedly accepts the offer of a drink while Alan is doing the kind of like hand across throat gesture um they go into the kitchen to make drinks and then he's like Lynn these are sex people and uh shows of the video she's
Starting point is 00:44:32 shocked and making no excuses to the even and Dan and his wife are saying how excited they are to listen to his deep bath later uh his wife goes in for a hug and he's like don't rob your fanny on me yeah it just uh it becomes more and more this is a swingers party he is in fact sex Ed Miliband
Starting point is 00:44:48 exactly imagine sex Ed Miliband who's teaching you sex ed exactly that's how it works so yeah it's um it's just it's just one big uncomfortable mess the entire time and then he does his radio show that book ends it and that's the end of the episode it's like him doing his deep bath
Starting point is 00:45:04 but he he's like disgusted that they're going to be listening to it in a horny way so he's like just doing really perfunctory like just scrub yourself off there's a coarse towel on the radiator we won't be doing this segment again so let me ask you like he's basically he's basically
Starting point is 00:45:20 British right he just hates people being horny he does exactly don't get horny about my radio you cannot get horny about the radio show or my podcast for that matter so let me ask you like what was the like overall impact of this show I presume it was pretty popular yeah yeah I mean it's definitely more
Starting point is 00:45:36 of a cult thing but I would say certainly certainly of like people who are like into British comedy it's like one of the one of the sort of all time greats really and it's definitely like I think people of sort of like my generation or like a little bit older
Starting point is 00:45:52 it's like a bit of a formative like I guess because it was on in like the late 90s and early 2000 so it's a bit of a like it's like ever so slightly retro for me like the last season of it was like 2002 but for that reason it was the kind of thing like when you're a teenager
Starting point is 00:46:08 for someone of my age it was kind of a thing that like it wasn't on TV anymore so it was kind of like a slightly underground thing to like because it was like 20 years ago or whatever I'm trying to think of stuff that would be equivalent to that in the US and the thing that's coming to my mind like starting the late 90s into the early 2000s is Chappelle's
Starting point is 00:46:24 show which was hugely popular but wasn't at first and then got to be hugely popular like pretty quickly or an animated show like The Boondocks is another example that like you know was not necessarily super popular on TV but was like very very influential
Starting point is 00:46:40 and like people who liked it were really into it but obviously those were very very different shows I'd say in terms of what kind of show it is it's a bit more like Seinfeld and it's like a bit of a comedy nerd thing but obviously Seinfeld was like a huge hit huge hit and obviously
Starting point is 00:46:56 ran for much much longer all of the really good British stuff it tends to be like shorter runs usually apart from peep show which ran for like nine seasons I suppose we should talk about peep show at some point although I feel like probably like Americans are much more familiar with peep show than they are with
Starting point is 00:47:12 I don't really know I mean I think that people who are into British comedy would be but I don't necessarily think your average listener if they aren't already kind of clued into British pop culture stuff would know that much about it quite frankly because like there is crossover on that stuff but not a huge amount and like it's also kind of I mean with streaming
Starting point is 00:47:28 or with torrenting stuff like you can get it now but for a long time like it was kind of hard to watch that stuff I think my buddy had like intense satellite radio or satellite TV whatever extended cable and that's how he was able to watch that Mitchell and Webb look but that's obviously like
Starting point is 00:47:44 not a show that most or like the mighty bush that's like not a show that most Americans might be bush that was also popular in America you know on a cold level yeah yeah there was that weird period in comedy but particularly in British comedy where like it was like everything's so
Starting point is 00:48:00 random oh yeah I'm like a gay squid you ever drink Baileys out of a shoe like you know I see my man China yeah and everyone thought that was like so funny in like 2005 and then like I was never really
Starting point is 00:48:16 much of a mighty bush person I do like Noel Fielding I think he's quite a funny personality but like yeah it was just very very strange vibe like I don't know I've never really got a meme would absolutely love mighty bush I feel I can say that Dido from the meme Dino the Barrett
Starting point is 00:48:32 Holmes Audi A3 no actually no that's not very my bush was more like like alternative like it was more something that like I mean it was still quite mainstream but it was something that like you're kind of like your teenagers who were like Goths and Emos and stuff
Starting point is 00:48:48 when like that was kind of more like mighty bush and then like the more like straight down the line comedies that people liked were stuff like the in-betweeners or like or like little Britain yeah that would be the kind of stuff that you're kind of more like jock Barrett Holmes guys would like okay yeah whereas
Starting point is 00:49:04 like yeah I remember that like all of the all of the like fucking you know black eyeliner girls that I was into at school were all into Noel Fielding that was kind of the and so I had to like pretend to be into Noel Fielding in order to still not get but now you like
Starting point is 00:49:20 yeah I like him as a guy I still don't really like mighty bush I think I was kind of right about the mighty bush at the time and other people have sort of aged into my opinion which is they was just like it's just such a weird era of comedy where yeah it's just that like it's a random yeah that's happened to me with music
Starting point is 00:49:36 where invariably it's something I don't like winds up being cancelled because the person involved is like a sex pest or something and I'm like see I was right all along yeah oh no Fielding is not a sex pest but yeah I think the comedy from that era that I really liked on British TV was probably
Starting point is 00:49:52 Nevermind the Buzzcocks I really liked which is like a kind of like panel show music quiz thing but when it was still hosted by Simon Amstel who's a very sort of like a surbic like kind of he's gay and like
Starting point is 00:50:08 he definitely has like a gay affect but like not in a camp way it's kind of more in a sort of like he has this kind of like Oscar Wilde kind of sensibility almost and I remember there were just like iconic episodes that were they were just because they would just get like washed up pop stars on there who were like really stupid because
Starting point is 00:50:24 they spent like 20 years just doing drugs like four times a day I remember one time they had Preston on there who we touched on a bit in the indie episode The Frontman of the Ordinary Boys one of the worst bands of all time who had just been on Celebrity Big Brother
Starting point is 00:50:40 we're probably due a bit of knowledge on Big Brother probably have to because British reality TV like is just the Britain basically did invent that particular curse of genre and he had been on Celebrity Big Brother now it was enough of a stretch that Preston
Starting point is 00:50:56 was on Celebrity Big Brother but he that year along with the celebrities they threw in this woman called Chantel Houghton who was not famous but was a Paris Hilton lookalike and she did look quite a lot like Paris Hilton some lookalikes are like this is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:51:12 but she was a pretty good match for Paris Hilton and they just thought it would be funny to throw someone in there who wasn't famous but just looked like Paris Hilton and Preston and Chantel Houghton started having this kind of like affair while they were in there and then they came out and got married
Starting point is 00:51:28 now unfortunately even in comparison to Preston from The Ordinary Boys this woman was extremely stupid and then so Simon Amstel she wrote an autobiography which had just come out and so Simon Amstel is like have you read your wife's autobiography
Starting point is 00:51:44 and he picks it up and Preston is just like giving him this like dead eyed stare and he's like I'm just going to read some excerpts from it I thought you done and he's got like posted notes together and he's like read out a couple already in either and just all between the rounds he's just like opening this book and he's like this was a passage I particularly enjoyed
Starting point is 00:52:00 and there's one where he's just like the photo shoot was for the Daily Mail which made me feel really upmarket and classy and then Preston stands up and he like pulls his microphone off and he's like I'm not fucking doing this anymore you're all fucking mugs and like and then Simon Amstel is like I'm just reading from your wife's
Starting point is 00:52:16 lovely book and he's like have you not finished it I don't want to spoil the ending and then they just get a guy out of the audience to just come and sit in Preston's place and they're like you don't really need to do much you just need to look angry and every now and then say that's bang out of order and this guy was like fucking
Starting point is 00:52:34 that's bang out of order they were like yeah that's great exactly but yeah there was like that couldn't be allowed to happen on British TV now like all of those panel shows have now been like completely muted like I'm fucking Mock the Week used to have Frankie Boyle on there as a resident
Starting point is 00:52:50 who would just say stuff like the Queen's Haunted Vagina or like the war in Afghanistan is making sure we have an excellent Paralympic team like shit like that and you're just like like that stuff used to be entertaining to watch yeah there was the one I think Frankie Boyle
Starting point is 00:53:06 was hosting the one where the one of the the woman comedians on there was reading the sort of like whatever documentary news reportage thing about Laura Coonsburg and Boris Johnson and she was like well they've obviously banged I mean like that's the effect of two people who have banged before and like everyone
Starting point is 00:53:22 was just like are we allowed to say this on TV I'm like yeah I don't really think they could do that even like ironically nowadays because the BBC's just gotten more and more Tory and more you know the haunted puppet spirit of Andrew Doyle kind of infused in it
Starting point is 00:53:38 yeah and this is kind of a thing I think where like essentially like political correctness and inclusivity has sort of been like co-opted as a way of like neutering comedy like from the because all of this stuff becomes like a tool of capitalism
Starting point is 00:53:54 like one way or another and so they've worked out that that's like a good fig leaf way of like stopping any kind of descent by saying like oh Frankie Boyle's like offensive and it's like yeah but to who like and that kind of but it's been a way of like just gently sort of like flattening out and like taking all of these
Starting point is 00:54:10 things out of British TV under a sort of like guise of progressivism which isn't really there which is why now TV sucks yeah I mean they definitely don't want things to be transgressive you know you will not transgress or transgend indeed in Britain
Starting point is 00:54:26 yeah exactly and everything that begins with that prefix banned completely absolutely man transistor radio fuck it against the law yeah yeah well that's that I guess that's the thing right like I don't know if the if you feel as though this show would not
Starting point is 00:54:42 be able to be made today I don't find anything about it particularly like you know offensive to what I can see conceiv of is like the sort of Tory broadcast mores you know what I mean yeah it's just it does
Starting point is 00:54:58 sort of feel of its time but then also it could have been made five years ago the only thing is that guy still exists there's just no smartphones in it you know what I mean like yeah there's not as much internet like almost none like it's just that's the only difference like it feels as though that that sort of glum provincial Britain
Starting point is 00:55:14 lives on in eternity and guys like Alan Parcher is just sort of yeah yeah yeah Alan Parcher is kind of like the text of a certain kind of guy have you ever found yourself slipping into a partridge moment by mistake
Starting point is 00:55:30 yeah I mean there's a certain kind of I think partridge mindset which is in built into almost every certainly British man there are just aspects where it comes out like it's so it's so well observed as a parody of British society in the way people operate because it's not just about him it's about the people around
Starting point is 00:55:46 him as well and that kind of like in that way it's a bit like Borat in that like Alan Parcher being so like gauche and maladois socially they're like it like showcases the kind of weird neuroses
Starting point is 00:56:02 of the people around him as well in the way that like Borat does by like being insane and then just like revealing the prejudices of the people that he meets or whatever and so yeah I mean who drives a lot constant partridge shit like as soon as you start talking about cars
Starting point is 00:56:18 you just find yourself saying partridge stuff and it's very like yeah there is kind of an unwilling I don't know with me and I find this a lot about being a comedian like or at least with the sort of stuff that I do I'm so comfortable being ironic about absolutely everything that kind of
Starting point is 00:56:34 what is my real personality and what is a bit at this point has so completely merged that yeah I can't like I almost can't tell the difference well I suppose it could be worse you could be disgraced from comedy and having to host a provincial
Starting point is 00:56:50 radio show and still not know what your actual personality is that is true I think actually hosting a provincial radio show would be pretty good especially in those days like he's making pretty good money doing it like you know just got to talk about your deep bath you get paid like 150 grand a driver Lexus wear a lot of cardigans
Starting point is 00:57:06 fucking Ukrainian yeah have a have a have a lanyard on your glasses you know it's all good yeah absolutely yeah instead we podcast we do podcast that is what we do with the Alan partridges of our own era exactly and we don't realize
Starting point is 00:57:22 we're lapsing into self parity because we're too busy well trying to navigate awkward social situations and grabbing people in wheelchairs and using them to force our way into into the conversation circle of mustard heiresses exactly and this is level
Starting point is 00:57:38 42 well thank you for introducing me to this it's been my pleasure I imagine that I'm wearing my little sports watch that I wear to track workouts and I'm sure there's a huge stress spike on it from when I watched this and cringed myself
Starting point is 00:57:54 nearly to death but I appreciate now at least being a little bit more clued in on your various partridge in interventions that take place on trash future it's got to be done I mean you know if you want to understand Kier Starmer first of all you do have to watch Alan Partridge
Starting point is 00:58:10 that's the funny thing to me was I had seen Partridge stuff before like clips of it but not a full episode but you referencing it I was like ah yes so basically Kier Starmer this is the voice he's somehow blundering into taking a really firm position on the death of an alpaca
Starting point is 00:58:26 yeah that would be that's incredibly Alan Partridge to be like look the alpaca needs to go I've got TB there's a bit about TB I know, I know, I heard it you've got to kill Badges Alan, they've got TB so about the Brontices, wouldn't hit them on the head with a shovel
Starting point is 00:58:42 no matter how bad the books were yeah exactly so ultimately will I watch this on my own volition? No but I'm grateful to have been exposed to it because it now gives me yet another lens
Starting point is 00:59:00 by which to interpret this strange country that I found myself trapped in, unable to leave yeah you're stuck here with the Lexa and the director's bitter. I'm from more than three years now so it's been a long time yeah one day we just got to get Steve
Starting point is 00:59:16 Coogan on the show yeah yeah yeah well I mean who knows maybe maybe maybe he actually hates this fucking show and it ruined his life but it would be very funny if that was the case but yeah no I think well he wrote it so I mean I think he's pretty yeah he's a big Jeremy Coogan guy as well
Starting point is 00:59:32 Steve Coogan based Steve Coogan we appreciate him a lot Steve Coogan loves pussy loves Jeremy Coogan allegedly allegedly you know what top shagger top Canadian hey absolutely drives Alexis can't be wrong yeah
Starting point is 00:59:48 alright well cool well this has been Britnology thank you Milo for enlightening me yet again it's my pleasure as always and if you enjoyed this episode and you want to hear a second Britnology each month we offer it on the $10 tier which will give you yes Britnology number two but if that is just too much
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