Triforce! - A philosophical podcast about hedgehogs | Triforce Mailbag #58

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Triforce Mailbag Special 58! Is this a podcast about nothing? Or maybe it's a philosophical podcast about free will, futurology, human emotion and reasoning, mathematics, morality, ethics, culture, war, arts science, history, modern social standards, the effect of all these things on the human emotional state and our experience navigating all these things as a person alive today. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickaxe Hello again and welcome to another Triforce Mailbag. I have no idea what number it is, I hope you do. So let's kick things straight off with an email from Reese who has sent a lovely song. I'm just going to download it. Here we go. Amazing. Wait, you haven't listened to it yet? I have, but I listen to it. What if it's filled with racism and swearing? It's not. I listen to it. I promise you. All right. This is the song. Right. You press play in 321 play. Very nice, very nice. Thank you, Rees. A simple little ditty.

Yeah, just a humble, humble ditty. Sometimes it's good to just do a simple little ditty. Sometimes it's good to just do a simple little ditty. I do love the kind of, like the rambling... I love that. That sounds like Arnie. You don't have enough of that. I wonder if we could get Arnie to submit a jingle. Or Randy Newman.

Randy Newman. Is he still alive? I thought Randy Newman died. Who's the other one? Randy Newman and Danny Elfman. That's the other one. We should get Danny Elfman. I'm sure they do it for free and it wouldn't cost thousands and thousands of dollars.

I'm pretty sure. The driver's podcast. I'm listening to the little podcast. Get your driver's podcast. Thanks, Randy. Thanks, Randy. All right. So this is this is some a pod, a Triforce drinking game that I've been sent by Jamie and she says my vet med stories haven't been as great. So they obviously sent in some stories

previously but I wanted to bring up the subject of drinking games. My fiance and I like to think of things to drink in to drink to in movies or TV shows that we like to watch. Of course, once we watch multiple times. Also, I'm 26 with a large vaginal canal. I forced my fiance to listen to this crap sometimes. Meaning the Triforce. I want to know what you guys think of the Star Trek TNG drinking game we made. Oh, so this is the Star Trek Next Generation drinking game. All right, so let me know what you guys think. This is, I love the way it's just written on a bit of lined paper. Um, all right. So you drink once if Picard quotes or references Shakespeare.

You're blackout drunk immediately. He does it all the damn time. Troy States, the obvious, I mean, right there, you're a big trouble. Honor, uh, sensors, just the word sensors. Someone tells data to stop. Picard says make it so. Shirt adjustment. You notice they do that a lot, they pull it down from the box.

Yeah, they do a lot of shirt adjustments. I think they write up. They must write up. Guinan is a real counsellor. So she does some actual counselling. Casual HIPAA violation from crusher slash Troy. What's HIPAA? It's the, uh, workplace like, um, health insurance portability and accountability act protects

sensitive patient health information from being disclosed. Right. So they just talk. They're leakers. They, they, they just, yeah. Oh, I see. They're like, this alien's penis is really warty. Right, but more about another crew member. Oh, you see that Ferengi's penis. Oh my god. Ensign Smith has the smelliest asshole. He's there. You're right, they do do that.

They're like, Ensign Wyming came in today complaining about just a really bad rash all down his thighs. It's just like, oh. Jeez, why are you telling the captain about that? Leg up position. So I think that's mainly someone talking with a foot up on something. Right. Yes!

Oh, that's mostly Riker though, because he apparently had a back problem. Yes, so he couldn't sit normally either. Or has always had like, he has like a strange... Is that why he always did like that, that like one cheek sit? He was like sitting on one cheek all the time. Yeah. Cause he actually does have a back injury, like a herniated disc, I think. Something like that.

So he just got arrested while he's in the... So then this one, it just says, it just says Captain's Jacket TM, like a trademark Captain's Jacket. I don't know what that is or a reference to. I apologize, Jamie. Dilithium crystals, of course, dilithium crystals, prime directive. So if someone says prime directive, that's a good one. You drink twice if and these are good ones.

Geordie is bad with women. I like that one. You're on your ass on that one. Spot makes an appearance. Spot is, of course, Data's cat, I believe. Yeah. But what do you think Data's configuration is? If you took Data's pants and undies off, do you think he even wears undies? Because I want to say... He fucks one of the people on the ship.

He's people functional. He's got a penis and every Tasha. Yeah. Tasha. You're right. He does. Tasha. Yeah.

And she's like, that was amazing as well. That's right. He's got a little picture of her. Yeah. Uh, Ryker is implied to have slept with someone. So uh, data solves every Jordy. He slept with Jordy in the holodeck. Poker is played and wolf is wholesome. I like that a lot. That's a nice list.

I think you should have to drink six times every time Picard goes on a back to the future adventure in the holodeck as well. It was back to like 1920 Chicago or like, you know, little house on the prairie or whatever. Yeah. Oh, you also take a shot anytime the prime directive is violated. I think that's good. Thank you, Jamie. That was a good one. How about you take a shot every time you notice the doors don't open quite properly because they're being pulled by a man. You know, like the hollow door. If you start noticing the

doors, they're like, oh, the doors didn't the hollow door. If you start noticing the doors, they're like, oh, the doors didn't open properly there. It happens so often. I mean, that was, it was Red Letter Media did a video, didn't they? Yeah. One of his best, I think, where he just, because now they're available in HD. You see all the shit. They went through, yeah, and saw all the like the shit on the floor and like the marks that people have.

The brown paper covering up the reflective console. Wow, that's hilarious. That was such a good video, my god. All right, this is from David, who's writing in, or David I guess it would be, or David, I don't know, because he's from Colombia. I don't intend to come across as an outraged baby, nor do I intend to nag, but I thought you might be interested in... This is a good setup for somebody who's very, very pissed off.

Yeah. But I thought you might be interested in an actual Colombian point of view. This is in relation to you, Lulu, reading a story, a new story about Tinder warning, traveling to Colombia, warning people about traveling to Colombia for hookups. You made a comment about foreigners being robbed in the middle of the jungle and said you would never come here because of violence and drugs. Well, we do have some of those, but we have won tons of awards for our cities being among the most innovative, having some of the best food, the most kind to travellers and so on and so on. We are not more dangerous than Chicago or Miami at the moment, two other places I wouldn't go to be fair. We have a lot of problems currently with gentrification and loads of people coming

from abroad to live here. And certainly we are not perfect. We have a lot of sex tourism, especially in Medellin, where I live and was born. And 100% of the violent deaths of foreigners here are related to people coming here to do that, especially with minors. The Tinder stuff is, of course, not in the middle of the jungle, but rather in our large cities where 50 year old Americans come and accept dates from insanely hot 18 year olds. So you do the math. I currently work as a software developer for American companies and do a lot of work with local kids teaching them coding as most of us want to leave our violent past behind. Certainly the stereotype of baboons in the middle of the jungle killing each other with devil's breath over drugs and weapons does a lot of harm. I don't know what devil's breath is,

but anyway, so there you go. Mason- I don't know if that was what I was doing. I mean, having read Factfulness, I appreciate that Columbia now has probably got a better quality of living than Britain in the 80s. Because so much has changed, right? And so much progress has made. And so yeah, I can understand that. I mean, you hear the word Medellin, right? And it's like, oh, it's the cartel. That's where all their money and wealth came from, right? That's why there's even a city there. And you think that, you know, that must mean that it's still a lawless, backwater nightmare. But actually, you can go to it on Google Maps and walk around on Street View. You can go to it on Google Maps and walk around on Street View and it, you know, it looks nicer than a lot of the places, you know, in Bradford.

So, um, yeah. Um, I, I'll let me, let me, I'll come visit. I'll come say hi. Uh, it was the old sex thing. He wants to do some sex tourism. That's why he's going. He wants to go, he wants to go check it out. He wants to join all the other 50 year old Americans having their hot dates.

I call me for some good Columbia pussy. Where can I find it? Down this alleyway. Fine. I got all my money with me. Oh man. Oh man. Oh man.

This is an email from Derek Lewis. This is in relation to you trying to buy property and dealing with state agents and dickheads like that. By property. Who do people think I am? Right. First of all, that was a joke about the Columbia thing. And second of all, I'm not like, just the way these things are worded. I hear that Lewis has tried to get a ranch and buy property. Tried to buy some property. Well, no. Expanding his property portfolio. expanding his property portfolio. My accountant please, Janet, I need to talk to him about unlocking some capital funds in order to purchase some property.

The funny thing is, I was saying this today, I live in like this two bed flat, right? And I wouldn't want anywhere bigger than that, right? I don't want to have to clean four bathrooms or like, m is too many to make a note of that three bags three at the most but you know one for the main ensuite bathroom a guest bathroom and then like maybe a downstairs bathroom like your one sips um I also have a downstairs bathroom bathroom, like your one sips. I also have a downstairs bathroom. La dee fricking da. It's on the ground floor of my property. I remember I had to mow the lawn as a kid and that drove me crazy having to do that. Mowing the lawn. I hate it.

It's not too bad. Well, I was very allergic. I'm very allergic to everything. Everything sucks when you're a kid because you have no sort of like other responsibilities, right? So I see it wasn't mine. Even a minor, minor convene inconvenience. It feels like the end of the world when you're a kid. But when you're, when you're an adult, you don't mind puttering and doing those little, little jobs, you know, like chopping onions or water in the garden. I don't mind any of that. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, maybe I will get a big load then. I'll have to wait a bit and they're like, how long? I'll be like, 10 minutes. Like 10 minutes! Yeah. Like you'll see at the end of the world. Anyway, back to Derek's email. Let's hear this property email.

This is about a property situation in Barcelona. Right. Oh yeah, it's too far. It's kicking off over there big time. It's getting crazy. They're protesting like crazy. They don't want tourists or as many tourists. 26 million tourists last year. But the problem is, is all of the property

prices are getting, are going like skyrocketing because... You're telling me the price of property is skyrocketing. No, it's because of like accommodation like Airbnb and hotels and everything, because it's such a sought after place. It's just driving all the locals out basically. Yeah. So here's Derek's view from the inside. A lot of property is bought up by international investors who raise prices and then rent to tourists, just like you're saying, pushing away locals who cannot afford the rent.

So here are some of the shitty things that are happening. One of them is the government enforced maximum rent prices for tenants who are staying more than 11 months. So, you know, so you can't price people out. Of course, all the major housing companies just said, all right, now all our contracts are exactly 11 months, so then they can charge you whatever you like. And you have to prove you're there for a short term stay.

So you have to buy train tickets or flight tickets to prove you're leaving, even though you'll never use them just to show that you've, you know, that you're not sticking around. The reason they ask for this is because what they're doing is illegal. And you actually have the right to a long term contract if you stay. If you refuse to leave after 11 months and meet them in court, and some people do this and win, they have the proof you were not actually staying. So the ticket is like a way of proving that in their mind, it's a short term stay. And the fact you stayed was not something they could have anticipated. That's why they do the ticket. Right. So here are some of the things that the estate

agents are doing. They want the rent in cash, which is illegal. They want you to register your deposit. Don't register your deposit with the government, which is illegal. They want you to register your deposit. Don't register your deposit with the government, which is illegal. You make you responsible for all repairs in the building, including the walls, windows and the pipes, which is illegal. Turn a store into a house without permission, meaning you're not actually allowed to live there, but they still rent it out. That's also illegal. And the owners whose friend is the agent just to take the one month agency fee and so on and so on. So they're a bunch of really shitty people really screwing everybody over in

the wonderful city of Barcelona. It's a real shame and I don't know what to do about it, Derek. Apparently the government, you pass a rule and people find their way around it real quick. Yeah, I mean, it's the same everywhere. It's the nature of things, right? The sluggishness of government and the fact that they're probably all in the pockets of estate investment firms. They probably run one. Do you know what I mean?

Like secretly. Secretly. I'm very serious about it. It's a secret property. It's maybe not exactly the same as Barcelona, like specifically some of the loopholes and stuff, but it's a big problem everywhere now in the West. Just property investment, because they can't build houses fast enough to keep up with demand because they get scooped

up so quickly by people with money. But then they're not sold on or whatever. They're rented out or they're Airbnb's or they just sit there. So here's my problem, right? If we're going to say, yeah, yeah, you guys can build new houses, property developers, go for it. You just say, but you have to sell them to people who have been resident in this country for more than five years. What's so bad about that? Genuinely, because we have a housing crisis for people who were born in this

country or have lived here a good few years. I think if you've lived somewhere for five years, you should be able to get a fucking house. As with anything, the people who have made all the money are the people who call the tune. They're the ones who are paying a lot of money for deregulation. So any regulation you try to put in is stopped immediately because somebody with a billion dollars comes along and greases everybody's palms and says, come on, let's deregulate. They're trying to do it with AI right now as well. They're trying to say no regulation for 10 years so that they can get in and do the usual, capitalize off the new great thing or

whatever, get all set up and everything and they don't have to worry about anybody stopping them. And then once they've figured out how to make all of the money and do all the stuff, then they'll just slowly at a snail's pace introduce some regulation the stuff, then they'll just slowly, at a snail's pace, introduce some regulation. But by then it'll just be too late anyway. I mean, the thing is, any regulation you bring in, if it's a decent AI, it'll just tell you how to beat it. This is the other problem. I was reading the other day about this AI that didn't want to be shut down and was telling, what was it, telling people how to fucking break through its, you know,

rent rules or whatever. It was bizarre. And here it is getting a bit crazy. So here is one from Ryan, who this is when we were talking about being in the cadets at school. Yeah. Which I think I was, I think Lulu was as well. So Ryan went to school in Lincolnshire. He was part of the CCF, just like I was. They also had a bunch of guns in the armory at the back of the school.

They had SA-80s, which was the service rifle of the British Army for about the last 30 years. Some number 8 bolt action rifles and so on. Like Perian, only the adults had the keys and only specific people could enter the armory to support. By the time I'd finished school and left, which is 2012, I'd reached the rank of warrant officer. So was one of those people who could support. Here in talking about the signals course he went on reminded me that I was one of the only cadets who went on a radio signals course during my time in the CCF and was the one who taught it to the younger cadets.

I feel like that would be fun. A radio signals course. Yeah, it is fun. But so he says that the radios they used are the PRC 349s. I this was like fucking a million years ago. So I had no idea what radio we used. But we did have those stupid throat mics. Now, this is something that when we went on exercises and stuff at actual army base, you have to clip this thing over your vocal cords

or sort of by your larynx, it holds there and then you can sort of whisper and it'll still go through it. So there's no background. So it's just picking up the vibrations of your vocal chords and transmitting that. But it sounds like absolute wank because, yeah, you literally say the loads of people were like, sorry, say that again, because they just couldn't understand you through these throat mics. But yeah, he said he was on an exercise and in the end, he had to just get up

and shout an order to the other people hiding in the quarry with him rather than try to use the radio because the others radios are dog shit. Imagine you were like really like sensitive to to that sound specifically like an ASMR sort of thing and you're on the receiving end of the of the radio signal and you're just melting into a puddle every time, tingling everywhere. It's more like they just end up sounding like sort of like very nasally. It just sounds like, what the fuck is that? Just vibrations. It's really weird.

Yeah. I remember those as well and them being terrible. And I think that the idea though is that you have to wear them correctly, but then also you have to just use them a lot and get used to communicating with people and practice and stuff. And we were not, we were using them for the first time and it was terrible. But I think these guys who actually do use them or did use them professionally, obviously practice with them for thousands of hours and as a result could tell what each other was saying in a very clever way. But yeah, like, oh, I remember that as well. Crazy,

stupid, weird. So this is an interesting one. I can't tell if this one is a typo or if I'm just misunderstanding it. So you guys let me know. I'm going to read this to you verbatim. Right. Okay. This is from Carlo. Every time I have, the title is wife's reaction to the podcast. Okay. Right. OK. This is from Carlo. Every time I have the title is Wife's Reaction to the podcast. OK. Right. Every time I have the podcast while I drive with my wife, you guys are talking about pop related topics. Right. Now she refers to the Triforce podcast as the pop podcast,

which would be pop cast in Spanish. Right. We live in the land of the mountains and beef. If you ever come to Monterey, Mexico, you will have a place for steak and beer. Beef picture and where I listen to the podcast picture. So there are two pictures, a picture of him chilling on a bench with some dogs. Hopefully they're his and one of him eating a giant beef bone.

But I can't tell if this is meant to be pop or if he means poop. Which do you suspect? It's poop. It must be poop. I feel like we talk about poop way more than we talk about pop. Although we have talked about pop a lot. Yeah, I'm just, I can't tell. I'd say we're, we're more of an authority on poop than we are on pop. Because I would think so.

My, all of our conversations about pop are three confused people, not understanding who is who and what is going on. But when it comes to poop, we're right on it. Like, you don't find anyone who knows more about poop and pooping than us. Or certainly when it comes to opinions about poop. Or yeah. Or even what abouts about poop. Or what ifs.

Lots of like deep diving into poop as well. Not so much... Hopefully not deep diving into poop. That's what like, Money Pit, Scrooge McDuck style, it's a big vat of poop. But then we have talked about quite a bit of pop, like we've done a lot of lyrical analysis on like Beyonce songs, Britney Spears and stuff, so I don't know, it could be pop, but I feel like it's probably poop. Probably, but either way, thank you for the email. I was just I wanted your guys take on it.

This one's from Johnny. This is about the silicon versus silicone. Silicon and silicone. Yeah, we were talking about that. So my girlfriend and I just started watching Silicon Valley, which is a great fucking show. Is it silicon or silicone? It's silicon.

And when we started it, she was very confused. She was expecting some really trashy TV because she thought Silicon Valley was named that because of all the fake tits. Right. Amazing. It's pretty funny. No, no, it is. It is basically the story of Apple and Microsoft. I love that. Silicon Valley. Oh, that's so good.

Oh, man. Yeah. She was expecting like some Love Island shit. Fucking Silicon Valley. I still haven't seen Silicon Valley. I hear it's pretty good though. Oh, it's so good. You'd love it.

I think you'd really love it. As people with a background in computing, you can... I mean, this is like, you know, this is like the way it is now in Silicon Valley, not the way it was when we were programmers. No. But you can understand a lot more of the sort of little jokes, the little programory jokes and stuff. Yeah.

And it's really funny. Like it is genuinely laugh out loud funny a lot of the time. I recommend it. And the main guy, well, Thomas Middle Ditch is why I always say about Silicon Valley. He was watching Jaffa factory episodes while he was filming the show. No way. Yeah. So he actually knows who you are, Sip probably.

I heard, I heard it from him, maybe there's an interview or someone told me this. How did I know? How do I know? I don't know how I know, but that's what I heard. What's his name? Thomas Middleditch? One of the ones on Game of Thrones watched us at some point as well, apparently. Was it the one that played Arya Stark, I think? There, she's a Hat Films fan. Hat Films.

So he shouted out the Yogs in the indoor kids podcast. Whatever indoor kids. This is 10 years ago. Wow. That's nice. Thomas. So middle ditch is an interesting name. He's Canadian.

His parents are British. So this is this is interesting. I wonder if his parents are from Dorset because there's a Dorset family called the middle ditches that Mrs. F worked for a long time ago when she was just a teenager and when we were going out, she worked at the shop they had, I think it was a Saturday or a Sunday, and this shop sold a lot of second hand stuff. Alright. And insurance stuff, stuff that had been written off because of fire damage or smoke damage or water damage but was still okay and you could buy it at the Middle Ditches.

So I've never met another Middle Ditch other than them. So I wonder if. And did you guys hear that they they sold Poundland? It's it's it's done. It's been sold. Guess how much they sold it for. Oh, got to be more than a pound. No, it was a pound. No way.

I could see right winding up. Yeah, I think so. This is like recent. It's like two or three weeks ago. Perfect. Yeah. Chainsaws to offer just a pound. There, I think so. This is like recent. It's like two or three weeks ago. Perfect. Yeah. Chainsaws to offer just a pound. There you go. Amazing. I know. All right. This is from Phil eggs. I was just wondering whether you wear your watch on the wrist that you use to wipe your bum. I don't wear a watch either. Not nowadays. I think Lulu wears watches.

Ever since phones, I have not worn a watch. I used to wear a watch. My wrists are far too skinny for a watch. You get a ladies watch. You want to get like a diamond encrusted Rolex or something. If I did, well, we'd poop encrusted, wouldn't it? If it was on my right wrist. No, you put it, it's always on your left wrist. It would like shred up your hole as well. Yeah, it's always on my left wrist.

I don't think you need to worry too much about it. I mean, you're a left. I would have had mine on my right. Are you left handed? My right wrist? No. Right. But whichever hand you are, you put your watch on the other wrist. Oh, I never did. I just put it on my right one. I just always, I remember having it always on my, on my right, my right wrist. Yeah. My dad, um, I remember one time I saw my dad and he was wearing three watches and I was like, what the hell? No, no, he's an international, uh, he's an international financier. He needs to know what time it is in Hong Kong.

What time is it? It's eight. Eight AM. Good morning property. It's nine o'clock in Barcelona. This is from Ethan. The reason was though, I'll tell you why, it's because two of them were these ones where they wound up from the motion of your body. So you wanted to wind them up all at the same time. Exactly. So like two of them had gone flat and he was like getting them all wound up. Nice. I love that.

So in a recent episode, 3-2-2, you all mentioned that this was the first time you felt like you'd been on an actual podcast that is about something. What the hell did we talk about? I don't know. I'm going to have to look. I remember. I remember feeling that emotion, uh, sensation at the time, but I can't remember what it related to. It was the one where P Flax gave us loads of facts. Oh, this is terrible deals. Terrible deals. Terrible deals.

Yeah. It did feel kind of like some prep had gone into that podcast, even though. A little prep had gone in. It's true. It was all Flax's prep, though. Not I don't think me or Lewis really knew what was coming, but it did feel kind of like it had some order to it. Right. Like there was some preparation and it was like a list of things.

It flowed really well. I don't know if people listening agree, but. Well, I think it was a decent episode. Yeah. Anyway, Ethan goes on. On other occasions you've remarked that Triforce is similar to Seinfeld in that it is a show about nothing. I would like to gently disagree and propose that Triforce is actually a philosophical podcast. I think it's interesting.

So often do you all end up talking about free will, futurology, human emotion and reasoning, mathematics, morality, ethics, culture, war, art, science, history, modern social standards, the effect of all these things on the human emotional state and discuss your experience of navigating these things as a person alive today. Wow. You're gonna be wrong. I've listened to enough of this podcast to know it can sometimes also be about nothing. It can also be about poop and farts and penises. Well, that is something.

It's just from the 70s to 90s. Yeah. It could be more about Terry, that is something. It's just from the 70s to 90s. Yeah, it could be more about Terry, though. Yeah. But most of the time, you guys naturally fall into conversation about the subjectivity of human experience. I think the fact that you were also open to having these conversations with one another is what makes the podcast so enjoyable. And the fact that it can sometimes be about nothing also allows it the space to sometimes be about some very profound human emotions. Well, I want a nice email. I actually feel somewhat accomplished after hearing that, which is rare for me.

Before I forget, can I tell you last night I was playing some Dune Awakening, which I've been playing a lot of recently. It's pretty fun. I exited my garage to to go into my house to go to bed. And I just see on the ground. There's a sandworm there. No, I see on the ground just this big hairy blob. It was a hedgehog.

Massive hedgehog. Oh, I love them. Oh my God, he was just sleeping right by the garage. I almost like I came. If I wasn't paying attention, I might have tripped over him or her. I don't know. But really might've tripped over him or her. I don't know. But really cute. It was just chilling. It was it was quite late. And I think he just, you know, he just found a nice place to sort of chill

and cool off or whatever. Yeah. But he was huge. He was like that. He was like the size of an American football. He was massive. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. He wasn't an escaped porcupine. No, no, because like they've got like the really long quills, right? Like he was he was spiky, but it was like like short spikes.

Like definitely a hedgehog. You had the pointy little nose and stuff. And at first I thought, oh, shit, I hope he's not like come here to die. Yeah. I thought maybe he was like distressed or whatever. The light was on. So I looked at him and he was looking at me and his little nose was like sniffing and stuff. I was like, all right, I'll just leave you there.

Check this morning he was gone. So yeah. If he lives in your garden, you can give him some food. They love dog food, cat food. Well, I don't think he lives in the garden. There's not really anywhere for him to live in the garden. It's pretty open. Not this hedgehog.

He's a fucking monster. He's a monster. Yeah. I don't know where he lives, but I mean, there is like wooded areas and stuff around here. There's a valley that's like quite quite wooded as well, where I'd imagine, you know, critters such as that one would would potentially live.

But yeah, no, it was it was neat. I just thought, wow, this is cool. I was a little concerned because Terry's like outside. I wasn't sure if hedgehogs, you know, would attack a tortoise or whatever. I don't know if they would, you know, I think they just kind of mind their own business and eat. I don't even know what the hell they eat. They must eat like grubs and shit like that, right? The last time I saw a hedgehog was I was in France on vacation with Mrs. F, the kids, my mom, my sister and her husband.

It was a really nice family trip. We went down one of the places. Yeah. And the place we were staying at had a pool. We went out the back and the cover was on the pool, but it's kind of blown off and the hedgehog had fallen in. Oh, and he was floating in the water, just sort of barely hanging on to one of the little steps they used to get out of the pool. He had clearly been in there for a while trying to get out and

was just absolutely exhausted. And my sister fished him out and he was still alive. And we let him rest there for a while and we got him some food and stuff. And he had a little snack, looked at us and then went right off into the, into the the undergrowth into the brush. He probably didn't need any water. He probably had this fair. Oh, he didn't need water. He needed some grub. A little French hedgehog, which is I've just looked it up. So we've spoken about Gordo, Gordo Ramsey and Hell's Kitchen and all the rest of it and some nightmares. This is from someone who was on the show. Oh, nice.

On the show this week, so this was from May, you mentioned you'd been watching Hell's Kitchen. Years ago, I used to work with someone who was a finalist on the show in a few seasons past. He was the sous chef while I was a lowly prep cook. He was an amazing chef and someone we all looked up to. He eventually left the restaurant and after being the head chef at a few other places, he decided to open up his own.

It was a very popular and busy place and while he was on the show, it grew even busier. It was at this point where people would pay $250 a plate for dinner service by him. The team and I were all so happy for him and his family, he deserved it 100%. In the confessionals, he always said he was inspired to do his best by his wife, who we also all loved, and his young child. Turns out he was sleeping

with one of the other contestants the whole time. When this information was made public, his business nearly died and he moved to a different state to start a new restaurant with his new girlfriend. Sometimes the people you love

and look up to can be real pieces of shit. Yeah, you just well, you just don't know what people are up to. I guess this is the thing that catches everybody out all the time. You assume you watch somebody enough where you see them on enough things and you just think I get the measure of this person. I know what they're up to.

Um, and then they are staying up till 2 AM playing dune awakening and fucking tripping over hedgehog when they go in their house, you know, like you just don't know what people are up to. You don't know. Yeah, it is disappointing though. I get it. I mean, we've experienced all of this like firsthand. All of us, I'm sure, with people that have done shitty things

and whatnot. And yeah, it sucks to find out. It's always a surprise as well, but yeah. So there are incoming pornography laws happening in the UK. Did you know this? No. So there are claims that it's very easy to get around the incoming new porn age-related laws. Right.

They'd set this hard deadline of July 25th for pornographic websites, search engines, and social media platforms to implement highly effective age assurance technology to stop children from encountering x-rated material. But you can just use a VPN. So yeah, which brings us to this week's sponsor. age assurance technology to stop children from encountering x-rated material. But you can just use a VPN. So yeah. Which brings us to this week's sponsor.

Yeah, but children... Children cards sign up to that. No. Yeah, it's... To what? To VPNs. How? How can they not?

Because they don't have a credit card. Right. And? You know how they have to ask for a Minecraft or Fortnite gift card? Right. Can you not get a VPN gift card? ExpressVPN is gonna start selling them. Yeah, they should. VPN gift cards. ExpressVPN is going to start selling them. Yeah, they should.

VPN gift cards. They would make a killing. It'd be like those old phone cards, remember? You could buy like a phone card, an international calling card. Yeah. God almighty. Don't do it. Oh my fucking God. That's actually going to happen. I've given them an idea. You've given them an idea and there's no stopping them now. Good God. Shit.

Well, this is exactly what we were talking about earlier in the podcast, where they're putting a law and everyone just works their way around it. Yeah. Oh, by the way, which reminded me of something I thought of the other day. This isn't that interesting, but it's just, it's funny that this came up. So I was thinking about line bikes and how kids can ride them. I think we might have talked about it on an episode actually about how when they lock, when the ride has ended, what kids would do is put it up on one wheel and run it very quickly. It breaks the lock,

but it makes that clacking sound. So, they can still drive around with the clacking sound. And then the more recent one is that it goes, peep, peep, peep, peep when the ride has ended, but you're still moving the bike, but just keep going and if you don't mind the peep peeps it doesn't matter. No one would have known this stuff apart from a few people who figured it out right and would have taken a long time for the information to spread into the general population but now if someone figures something out it's there's a TikTok or a YouTube video about it that day bang everybody knows because the way stuff gets shared. Yeah. So if you, if line bikes were around when we were kids, you might know a couple of people who'd heard about this way to unlock them, but there wouldn't be a fucking

how to video at your fingertips. You could watch of someone you've never met explaining how to do something like that. So I think the idea that there are ways to, to, to, you know, skirt around these restrictions, well, yeah, of course. Nowadays, everybody's going to have access to that information instantly. So you've got to be a lot smarter about the way you legislate. But I think government still hasn't caught up with the idea. Mason- But I also think that a lot of people don't shoplift, right? Like, yes, there's a lot of these places like Honor Systems and Honor honor boxes, right? And the majority of people

don't take advantage of them. Some people think, oh, it's a life hack. I could get something for free if I just don't take everything. Or, you know, it's a life hack. I could just use a set of bolt cutters on this bike and then I could drive it. Right? Like some of them is just crime. Some of these life hacks, it's not actually a life hack, it's just criminal. And I think that is theft to steal a ride on a lime bike by using an exploit. And I think a lot of people believe it or not are fairly reticent to do those things. Unless there's a good reason to, for example, maybe Elon Musk owns lime or something. Should I mean, everyone should, everyone, I wouldn't encourage everyone to do it. Of course. But I'm just saying that could be a reason why they might, uh, go.

Very never steal a bike or anything for that matter. I don't think I would steal anything. Um, I don't need to, I don't want, I want to keep in the shadows. I don't want to get put on a list or, you know, catch the mean eye of, of the, of the, of the law or the pals that be. I just want to, you know, remain in the shadows. In the shadows? Like an assassin.

Like Batman? He's not just avoiding the police. He's out solving crimes. Yeah. You're just keeping your head down. You'd be the worst Batman ever. Master Wayne. Master Wayne. Master Wayne. You're just keeping your head down. You'd be the worst Batman ever. I've just lost my sister. Never lose the game.

Last time he left the bat cave today. You know, I watch Netflix all the time. I'm just watching that. I'm watching bat Netflix. Actually, I. Whilst away, there's a terrible criminal at large in Gotham. I'm anxious to leave the back. I'm too anxious to leave the Batcave. I'm not going to leave the Batcave today Alfred. Can you get some Deliveroo in? I'll have a bat burger, bat fries and bat shake. He's not Mr Beast. I don't know who that is. Mr Beast?

You don't know who Mr Beast is? Oh, Mr Beast? I misheard. Why Mr Beast? Well, because he'd have his own beast burger and beast shake and all that shit. Mr. Beast? You don't know who Mr. Beast is? Oh, Mr. Beast? I misheard. Why Mr. Beast? Well, because he'd have his own beast burger and beast shake and all that shit with him. Yeah, but Batman also has the bat cave. Do you think Mr. Beast has ever eaten any of the cheap shitty wank food that he markets? Who cares? Because he's never actually eaten any of it. Who cares? Anyone that still watches that guy, I don't know, his face fills me with dread. It's like the face of a man who's you've fallen down a pit and he's looking down

at you and he's like, once I release the fire ants into the pit, then we'll see who's funny. And you know, that's his face. Man, it is. All his videos have that face of a man looking down at you in a pit that he dug for you. There was a there was a an image circulating of somebody I think he did it for his boss's birthday or something but in the office above his boss's desk one of the ceiling tiles he put a picture of a camera shot from Silence of the Lambs looking up the tunnel at Buffalo Bill holding the cat and then there was a string dangling down with a bottle of shampoo.

That is amazing. I'll try to find it. Fuck me, it was so funny. Rub the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose. Would you fuck me? Won't you, precious? What the fuck are you watching, little man? Oh, man. Yeah, so most of the man? Oh man.

Yeah. So that's Mr. Beast. Next. He is like a serial killer hitchhiker looking down at you from the truck door, you know, like, get in. Yeah. He's very odd. When you help me push it all the way back, please.

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So this is from Jack. Just listen to Triforce episode 3-2-3, where you mentioned how Glenn Powell seems to be in everything these days. Thought I'd chime in with why he's suddenly Hollywood's golden boy. So it all goes back to his minor role in The Expendables 3, where he got to rub shoulders with legends like Stallone, Schwarzenegger and Statham. Instead of spending time in his trailer, Powell spent his time listening to stories from them about the glory days of Hollywood, the wild behind-the-scenes antics and, like more importantly, the absurd paychecks. That experience lit a fire under him and he decided

then that he wanted to be part of that old-school movie star legacy. Ever since, he's been making smart, deliberate career moves to claw Hollywood back to his blockbuster heyday. Hopefully this serves to give some information as to why Glenn Powell's name is appearing everywhere. Jack, that's absolute bullshit. I don't agree with a single sentence. The idea that Glenn Powell just knuckled down and suddenly he's in all these movies.

That doesn't make any sense, brother. None at all. I'm appalled. No. Do you honestly think he just decided to knuckle down after the Expendables and that's why he's in everything? That you just march up to the executives and go, I'm Glenn Powell and I want to be in your hit movies.

My God, this kid's got moxie. Get him in something. I don't care what. Get him in the next five big movies we're making. I love that style. I don't even know who that is. Glenn Powell. Yeah.

Okay. We've spoken about him like five times. We talked about him before. He's like a generic Hollywood movie star. He's like a copy pasted... If AI had to make a new Hollywood movie star and he was painfully average but like borderline good. So this is from Josh.

This is also about Glenn Powell. Hang on. Glenn Powell. There's a picture of him. There's a fucking picture of the guy. Every time we talk about Glenn Powell. Hang on, Glenn Powell. There's a picture of him. There's a fucking picture of the guy that every time we talk about Glenn Powell. Multiple times. And every time you're like, who's Glenn Powell? That's my point!

That's my point! I think he's kind of forgettable, right? He's completely forgettable. Even his name is completely forgettable. And his face is just the most generic face. He might not be real, he might be actually AI, guys. I think he might be right. Is he married to Sydney Sweeney?

No, but hear this, hear this, alright? It's bizarre that you say that. It is genuinely bizarre that you say that. Why? Because listen to this email. Let me start by saying I normally listen to the podcast over my Alexa, as I'm getting ready for my day. But my wife, who is a teacher, now home for summer break, is usually not home to hear

my routine. Her first ever exposure to the podcast was hearing you all insult her celebrity crush Glenn Powell, and then bark like horny dogs for Sydney Sweeney! And now I had to listen with headphones on in the morning until the fall, when she returns the word. Sorry, Josh. Good. Oh, good. Barking like horny dogs. Yeah, we were like, brrr brrr brrr brrr about Sydney's sweetmeow.

Humpaduh humpaduh. All that kind of stuff. Do you guys want to hear about how terrible it is to work in an abattoir? I can imagine how terrible it is to work in an abattoir. So you don't want to hear an email about it? Well, I read a book called, I read a book called Tender is the Flesh. It's a romance novel. Quite a famous dystopian sci-fi novel about a society in the future where a virus has contaminated all animal meat.

So they shift to sort of cannibalism as this kind of way to get meat. And it goes, it basically, it's really clever the way it's done because it is, it's just a really cool book. But a lot of it is set around this group of people who own a slaughterhouse. And people would just go probably plant-based, right? If there was like a worldwide poisoning of all animal meat. Well, this is what's said in, but look at what it's like at the moment, Sips, with how anti-... These meat eaters are very, they love their meat! And I could see them going full cannibalism, is what I'm saying.

No, it's absolutely gibberish, there's no way. It's true. Well, it's not true! So, you eat and enjoy meat. I'm not eating a person, am I? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay. So if you found out that animal meat was completely so like infected, dangerous, would kill you and you had to stop eating it, you would not eat a person. No, who would?

Well, hang on. No, hang on. That's not what we're going to. Okay. What if it was a person grown in a lab specifically for their meat? No, no, I'm not eating a bird! Okay, what if they grew men in a lab and they just grew them with extra, extra large penises and that was the meat that we're talking about? Even less so! Right.

No, no, again, no! Just wanted to cover a couple of angles there, you know. I think that's basically what happens in the book. They start growing men with larger and larger meaty penises that people could chew on. I think that the penis meat, I mean, I don't know. I've never eaten... It's the most tender of the meats. Yeah, but it's got to be like veal or something, right? It's got to be some soft ass meat. What other meat is like melt in your mouth soft? Lamb or something?

Good, good, good. Young meat. It's a horrible book. I hated it actually. They're growing young meat in the labs. Jesus. But it kind of explores the sort of ways that they got here. In a sense, there was this sort of big, there's a big political component, there's a big component

of health. They almost say that you can't survive without eating some meat. As a result, they were forced to do this. Also, you've got to understand some of these books are based on this idea that a culture around the world might be susceptible for this to have happened. You see people like the Philippines produce huge amounts of plastic waste or something like that. It's an incredible percentage compared to the rest of the world, an unusual amount. Maybe that's just the way that they have. Maybe they don't have very clean municipal water supplies and so everyone drinks bottled water and they don't have a very good recycling system so they throw it all away. I think that is a cultural thing that they're just used to having in their system. You could see how a society that is

very obsessed with eating meat, if suddenly animal meat isn't available anymore, could they turn to this? I don't know. A there's this whole thing, the whole book is, a lot of the book is set in a slaughterhouse with the idea that the author I think had experiences of working and knew what it was like. And so you kind of see the whole process and it's awful. And so no, I don't really want to hear any more about it from your lovely letter writer, P Flex. I think it's one of the reasons I would encourage more people to not eat meat was so that fewer

people had to work in a slaughterhouse. So here's one. We were talking about living on a cruise ship. So this is from someone who lives on a cruise ship. This is from Jacob. Well, how long for? Like for the rest of your life, living on a cruise ship or temporary accommodation? My name is Jacob. I've been a full-time YouTuber for six years now and I've just started living on a cruise ship or temporary accommodation. I'll tell you. My name is Jacob. I've been a full-time YouTuber for six years now,

and I've just started living on a cruise ship full-time. I work as a bandleader going around Norway, but took the job as it lets me carry on doing YouTube at the same time. I thought you might be interested in knowing what it's like as you mentioned it on the podcast before. I am 25. I started listening when I was 16. God, he's listening to this crap for nine years. I work 7 PM to 1am every night gigging. So I think he plays music. So the rest of the day, I have time to explore Norway and any other countries we end up going to and record YouTube videos. The internet on the ship is fine. It's Starlink, so can be up to 100 megabits a second. Download, but sometimes that

might last for three to four seconds before cutting out. But it's good enough to FaceTime, download some bits and bobs. And when Starlink isn't trapped by the huge fjord cliffs, you can even download some games. I record on sea days, two days a week. And then on port days, I find a co-working space and upload footage to the editors. I can download the finished videos on the ship Wi-Fi, but I have to upload the final video once we're in another port. It's a bit of a hassle, but as long as I'm in routine, it works fine. Let me know if you have any other questions about life on cruise ships. So this you're not living on, you're kind of work.

Yeah, I guess you sound like you've just developed a really tight routine. Yeah. Living and working on a cruise ship, which is, you know, I'd imagine that most people that work on a on a cruise ship spend a lot of their time living on one as well. Right. Like it's you think so. So it's a six months of conment. As a bandleader, you have your own cabin. Very small. That's fine.

Food is free. Rent is free. Excursions are free. And you can even have relatives and partners join you on the ship for free when you want. Sounds pretty good. That's pretty good. Honestly. And what do you get like days off and stuff? Is it just like a five day work week or?

Well, it's two days at sea. And then when they're in port, I mean, he just plays in the evenings. Like, yeah, but when they're at port, don't they still play in the evening or, or no? I don't know. Maybe. I guess so. Yeah, probably. It probably is probably seven days a week.

Maybe maybe maybe six, maybe six. Everybody leaves the boat. Yeah. But in the evening you come back on the boat to eat and stuff. Yeah. Well, yeah, because it's all inclusive, isn't it? Like the well, yeah, it costs a packet. And you're paying for all this grub, you may as well bloody eat it.

Christ. Does it actually cost quite a bit? Like a whole cruise to go on? It's awfully expensive. Is it? It's ridiculous. It's loads of little upsell crap as well. Oh, right.

That you don't know you're gonna need until you've been on a cruise and you're like, shit, I wish we'd paid for X or Y. So, you know, a lot of the stuff, the more you pay for ahead of time, the cheaper it'll be when you're actually on board. Because if you're on board, they fucking got you. Right. What are you going to do? You're going to buy a cocktail somewhere else when we're off, you know, on at sea. Yeah, no, you're going to have to buy it from them. Some prices are ridiculous. Weird. You can buy all these passes that give you a certain amount of free booze a day. Right.

It's all bullshit. Weird, weird, like hidden charges, sneaky charges, upselling and stuff. Speaking of which, I saw there was a hotel, I think it was in Vegas and it had a sign on the, on the mini bar fridge in the room. And it said, you know, if, if anything is missing from this fridge for more than 60 seconds, it'll automatically be built to your room or whatever. That's like pretty standard now, right? They got all these sensors and stuff for the mini bar. But there's also a note that said, if you store any of your own stuff in the fridge,

there's a surcharge that you'll be charged. So like, if you got like a pint of milk and put it in there, you'd have to pay to put it in that little fridge I've never heard of that before my life We put stuff in those fridges all the time, especially with like young kids Of course, we always have milk or whatever, you know, it's like these fucking companies, you know They're just like some dickhead's job in fact a whole team of dickheads jobs is to just find ways to screw a tiny bit more money out of people and just be damned if even if they think that is so fucking cheap and stingy. Like it don't matter. We made

an extra five quid this month off this stupid surcharge. Fuck off. It's just this constant creeping bullshit where it's just trying to fucking make you pay for these extra little bits and oh what if you pay for this one little thing here? He's just, fuck off. Just give me a nice holiday for the fucking money. You're not making enough bloody money. I've talked about this before and I think it's to do with goodwill, right? Like if you want repeat customers, you have to behave in a very different way to, if you don't expect them to come back. A lot of these places act as if they only want you once. Or you have no choice. If the only flight to fucking this place is an easy

jet flight, which often you want to go at a specific time or something like that, you have to pay for that. And they know that, right? And they can gouge you on every single aspect of it. I think that This is why I think Disney are shooting themselves in the foot with gouging people lately. Because I think that they're undermining the whole point. They give people a great time and you cut into that when you do things that upset people or make people feel like they haven't got good value for money. And it's little price gouges that affect it. And in the long term, those people aren't going to come back and I think that's going to cost them way more. So yeah, be good to people. Build up goodwill.

This is from Rory. This is to you and me, Sips. Right. Many moons ago, you and Sips were doing some Sopranos themed bits. Right. Because we do the gangster chat and we talk about Sopranos a lot. I'd never heard of it before, says Rory. So I looked it up. Months later, I've watched the full series. I just want to say thank you for putting me onto it. And who was our favorite character?

And why is it Bobby Bacalar? Bobby Bacalar was not my favorite character. No. I did like Bobby.acalar? Bobby Bacalar was not my favorite character. No. I did like Bobby. I think my favorite was probably, in a weird way, it was Uncle Junior. I don't know. He was just, like, for me, every time I think of the Sopranos, I think of him.

I just think of Uncle June. Yeah. I just think he was just such an angry asshole of a man. But like, it just, he was casted perfectly. His acting was so good. Like I don't know. It's just that the best sopranos for me was, uh, what was when he was in it a lot, you know?

Yeah, not, not, not as like big decline, but like certainly at first, you know, he was, of course I have to go with Paulie walnuts AKA Paulie go to airy. Yeah. Who was actually a real life mobster. No, he wasn't. He was. Oh really? He was.

It says he was a troubled street kid in Roseville. Wait, oh this is, this is not, okay sorry, I'm reading the biography of the character. Tony Cerrico, who was also in Goodfellas and a bunch of other gangs and stuff. He was arrested 28 times. As a teenager he was shot. Assault robbery. Damn. He was shot in a dispute over a girl.

Then he joined the army. Then he was in several crimes. 28 arrests disorderly. Yeah. Good almighty. He served time in prison. Phew. Yeah.

Oh wow. Uncle Junius. God I thought you were kidding. No I wasn't kidding. Damn that's crazy. 94. Yeah. Damn the guy who played Uncle June is still alive.

I liked I liked what's Michael Imperiali Christopher. Christopher, he was good as well. I don't know, Tom. Yeah, I liked him. He was good. They were all good. They were all. Yeah, it was just such a good show. It was really good. Yeah. I also really liked Furio. I thought Furio was fantastic. The Italian guy.

Yeah. He was. Yeah. He's, he's such a good character. All right. Thanks Rory. Yeah. I'm glad you like the Sopranos. Um, uh, this is from, uh, Jasper, Jasper K, a New Yorker. What's up? He, uh, he also lists himself as time person of the year 2006, which is not true. I checked. Um, I wanted to email him to share an experience I have while listening to the podcast and surmise that this particular event might be the fastest that anything you guys have ever said has been debunked. Now, the vast majority of the time I listened to the Triforce while running, mostly in and around Manhattan, as that's where I live. Some time ago, I was on a run listening to you guys when Perian said something along the lines of,

New York City is flat. There are no hills in New York. I had heard this while chugging up one of the most notorious Hills in the city. Harlem Hill in the north end of central park. I had to laugh because of the instant disproving of your claim. Wouldn't have it any other way. Let's keep it up. Thank you. Jasper K. That is, that is funny. I love the idea that you're just like running up this fucking Hill. You hear me say that and just go, fucking idiot. Of course. That's great. It's like someone on the, you know, international space station is listening to a podcast and

they're talking about flat earth. Yeah. Okay. Sure. But it is, it is generally pretty flat, isn't it? New York? Yeah. I would say it's pretty flat.

In my defense. I will say in general, it's quite flat. Yeah. That's why New Amsterdam is where they set it up. You know what? I'm just thinking about that. New Amsterdam, which is what it used to be. Why didn't they build a shitload of canals? You think they would? They didn't get a chance to. I don't think they were in charge for long enough. I think if they had their own way though, they would have had canals all over the damn place. It would have been like a grid of canals. And canals like past it, do you know what I mean? Like, why did we stop building canals? Because there were a lot in America.

Yeah. When we didn't need to move freight by water. Primarily they were used to move freight. Wagon. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, think about the canals that we have in this country. There's one not far from me, the Great Canal, or whatever it's called. It goes from somewhere around Brentford all the way up to Birmingham. It's just a straight shot. So if you want, you can get on it and you fucking just go. So that's much easier than sticking a load of stuff on a horse and cart, wheels break,

all that crap. Bosh it on the canal and away you go. Easy peasy. And it can obviously the amount that it can carry is a lot more. I read that the reason the Americans drive on the right instead of the left is to do with the large horses and carts that they had, where they would have these bigger, like they had bigger roads, bigger horses, bigger carts, and they would sit, I think they'd

have to sit on the left, I want to say, on the left side of the cart. And they would, I think it was just, it's to do with horses and carts. Whereas in the UK, we had much smaller horses and carts and we would pass on the other, on the other, we would sit on the right. Will Barron But then why did everyone else in the world copy America then? I think it's, again, it's to do with, I think for us, like, our lanes are a lot smaller, like in London and stuff, all these tiny little roads. Yeah, but that would have been true for...

It meant that we were primarily using smaller... But there's a bunch of places in Europe. If you've ever been to Italy, tell me walking around any Italian city or town that the roads don't feel claustrophobic. And they all drive on the right. Surely they had the same issue. Hmm. Yeah. Well, I don't know.

We don't know. Go ahead and email in. Let us know in the mail. A lot of the a lot of older cities were built, planned out and everything. So like even even before like massive, massive use of horses and carriages and stuff as well. Right. So like a lot of the roads are really, really tight, claustrophobic. Jersey is the same. London is the same. Rome is, is the same. Paris is a bit more planned out though, isn't it? They has, it has huge roads.

And, and like, if you look at it from, um, from high up, there's, there's like a, like a, a ton, a ton of planning that's gone into it to make it like all, you know, flow nicely or maybe, maybe it doesn't flow nicely. I don't know what the word is, but like, you know, it is, it is, it is designed. It's not, it's not just sort of cobbled together. London feels cobbled together in parts. Oh God, isn't it just patchwork? And it feels like they've just, they've, they've had to just make alterations here, there and everywhere to allow, you know, highways. I mean, we also got bombed quite extensively, so that meant that we had to rebuild a lot

of ships. So, so in the past, almost everyone traveled on the left hand side of the road because that was the most sensible option for fuel violent societies. Jason Vale I don't believe that. Jason Vale Because most men are right handed swordsman preferred to keep the left in order to have their right arm nearer to an opponent. Jason Vale Right. Jason Vale Moreover, it reduced the chance of a scabbard

wall on the left hitting other people. Jason Vale Right. Jason Vale Furthermore, a right handed person finds it easier to mount a horse from the left side and it'd be very difficult to do otherwise if wearing a sword, which should be worn on the left, it is safer to mount and dismount towards the side of the road rather than the middle of traffic. So if one mounts to the left, then the horse should be written to the left side of the road. No, this is on some big website about it. So then apparently, this

sort of happened for a while, but then Napoleon decided everyone will be marching on the right hand side when he took over Europe. And that standardized it across the group. I think that's a load of crap. It says here, in the late 1700s, teamsters in France and the United States began hauling farm products in big wagons pulled by several pairs of horses. These wagons had no driver's seat. Instead, the driver sat on the left rear horse so he would keep his right arm free to lash the team. Since he was sitting on the left, he naturally wanted everyone to pass on the left

so he could look down and make sure he kept clear of oncoming wagon wheels. Therefore, he kept to the right side of the road. So I think it is to do with like these bigger ... That does make some sense. But the idea that you did that because that's where your sword was, here's my problem with that. What fucking traffic? You're not stepping out into the M4. No, no. I think it's just, I think it's walking through a busy marketplace, right? Like you wouldn't, people do naturally fall into patterns, especially if they're like, marching down the road and

stuff. Yeah, but if you go overseas, if you go abroad, you will notice that everybody walks on the quote wrong side of the road. Like they instinctively go to pass me on my left. In the UK, you generally stick, even foot traffic to the left side versus the right, because that's what we do when we drive. But I was, when I was in Sweden, I said to Mrs. F, have you noticed that everybody seems to be walking on the wrong side of the road? It's because obviously they're used to it being the other way around. So when you're in Europe, you have to pass on the right. But my question is this. If they're on my left and this whole sword thing, right, what

difference does it make? It's not like someone's, there's all these fucking assassins out there, which just poke at you because they're going to be in the same situation when it comes to drawing their swords, if we're on the other side. So it doesn't make any sense. Mason- What are you talking about? They're mirrored. So they'll, they're, no, no, no. When they're past, what are you talking about anyway? Let's move on. Jason- You're saying, you're saying, it doesn't matter, whatever. I'd have to do a drawing. Mason- Let's move on. We can argue about this in person next week. Jason- What I'm saying is that if you're saying that me being on the right would make it easier, harder for me to defend myself, it would also be harder for them to attack me because they're

all in the same boat with regards to drawing swords. Mason- Right. Will- So there's no advantage either way. I make it easier for them to draw and attack me in fact. Mason- I think people act in a way that is the safest for themselves. You see this psychological thing in prison interviews and things like that. They'll put someone in the corner, they'll close the door, they'll surround them, they'll make them feel physically uncomfortable. I think that naturally when you're walking maybe with a sword, it feels more comfortable to

walk with space between you and other people, you know, rather than in a way that you're going to be uncomfortable and at risk. Yeah, I guess so. Like, that's all. Alright, final email. So this is from Connor, who says, I thought I'd let you know about an embarrassing incident that happened to me last year involving your podcast. Lewis, I know you're going to jump in and say that you know how this ends, but this

may be chuckle. OK? I'm 26 and work for a well-known British automotive company as a maintenance technician. In general, the people I work with are older men who tend to be your more typical English blokes and have a general distaste for anything nerdy. You can imagine the type, right? Oh yeah. We were sent to Germany for a week to see some new equipment that we would be having over the coming months. So I thought I'd download some episodes of The Triforce to listen to on the flight. I'd got to the episode where you were talking about the statistics of how many players did what in Baldur's Gate 3 when the flight came to an end. I packed up my headphones, got ready to disembark. Some time later we got to security, made our way to the rental car park,

pick up the hire car. After we'd gotten away from the airport, I thought, oh, I'll put some music on. Connected my phone to the car. It immediately began playing the podcast from where I left off. You can imagine my horror when the first thing the guys heard was, you can fuck the druid in barefoot. Before I unclogged the podcast. Apparently they've never mentioned it again. So thank you, Connor. Oh, good. I love that. Previously, when I started an email about how someone's accidentally broadcast a podcast, you've been able to predict it within the first sentence.

Yeah. You're like, oh, and wait, wait, wait, stop there. They accidentally played Tribe Force podcast at an embarrassing point. That is the bulk of the emails that I get. So I've got to read them occasionally. Oh, that's hilarious. A lot of people. That's a good one.

Unfortunate, Connor. Unfortunate. Cool, Connor. Anyway, that's that. Thank you. That was a great mailbag today. Thanks for the mail. Keep it coming. Some good shit.

Very nice. It was killing it. Very nice. Oh, God. We're going to have to get the listeners to take over this podcast when we're too old and stupid to do it. They're getting good. They're getting funny.

Man, I am so sapped of all energy today because this heat. God, it's so hot. It's crazy. I went out yesterday for a very, like we only walked for about a mile or something. My legs felt so heavy. Yeah. Like in the heat, I was just like plodding. I was like, Jesus Christ. Were you like flailing around like Kevin and Perry, like just arms flailing, legs heavy, sawing along? There was no flailing. I didn't know the energy for flailing, legs heavy, sawing along. There was no flailing. I didn't know the energy for flailing. I was just like plodding. It was like, oh, all right. Well, thank you. See you next time.

Thanks for listening. Thank you so much. See you next time. Thanks for all your emails. Keep them coming and we'll see you soon. All right. Bye bye. Adieu.