Triforce! - Flip Off Confessionals | Triforce #368

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

Triforce! Episode 368! We're talking Paranormal Activity and wildly successful horror movies, Flax gets flipped off by a stranger and he's not the only victim here, we can't understand the plot of The Notebook (but why are we still crying?) and Sips launches a new game review channel with Wardogs (2/10 after hundreds of hours btw) Go to http://BUYRAYCON.com/triforce to get 20% off The Everyday Earbuds Classics!Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Donate today at United WayGT.org Hello everyone. Welcome back to the TriForce podcast. Mailbags. Oh no, not mailbags. Not mailbags. I fucked up. You did.

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Welcome back to the TriForce podcast. It's us. We're back. Can you believe it? I can't. I got nothing to. about this week. I have lots to talk about this week. Oh my God. Lewis has already set us off on such a negative path. Maybe Flax can... I'm going to share some of the negativity that I'm feeling. I think,

do you know what it is? I was thinking about this morning. I think the thing is you get told something by builders. Yes, by builder. You get told lots of stuff by builders. You get told lots of things and they ask you for a lot of money for things that you're not sure cost that much money and but you just have to pay it. And they say things like, oh, you know, we'll be done by the end of the week. Or we'll be done on Monday or be done on Tuesday. And, you know, Monday rolls around. No one's here.

Tuesday rolls around. No one's here. Wednesday rolls around. They turn up for a couple of hours. And you're like, what? I thought you said you'd be done by Tuesday. And be like, oh, yeah. Well, you know, it's rained, hasn't it?

It's been raining. It's like, no, it hasn't? It's not been raining at all. Oh, well, I said it would. It's like, well, so, so. And I mean, it's not going to raid for the next three days. It's like, oh, well, no, but we got another job on, you see. Because it was raining.

And so we had to do the other job. And it's like, it's this constant disappointment. It's like they tell you something will be done. And you come home excitedly to see it. And then it's like, it's like just an absolute shithole. There's a huge hole and shit everywhere and just fucking everything's broken. Yeah. And they're like, oh, yeah, that'll cost you.

You have to have all the inside done now as well. And they, you know, oh, my fucking God. I don't know if you're like this. Prince, just a toilet, the toilet was just filled with like dirt and sand? How do I get all this sand out of my toilet? Why is there sand in the toilet? Yeah. These are the questions I need answering and they just look at me blankly when I ask them

these questions. I don't know if you're like this. I don't know if anyone listening is like this. I'm certainly like this. I have, when I, if I want something done, like we've had a lot of building work done and there was a bunch of stuff that was just pretty straightforward. And then some stuff that was like quite sort of custom for our house, know. And when we were thinking about getting this stuff done and I was planning it in my mind,

I visualized it to look a certain way. You know what I mean? Of course. And I found myself consistently disappointed after any work was done because it never looked like how I thought it was going to. And you go out of your way to make sure that they use like the right materials. They, you know, you really spell it out to them and stuff. And the amount of times that they either got it wrong or just, didn't really end up working out the way I thought it would or looking the way it did. Most of my experiences were just like, I'm really disappointed. I spent a lot of money just to be disappointed, really. And I think that's like the summary of the whole experience.

The other thing I have is that they don't seem to be able to do, they don't have any kind of financial buffer, right, to pay for anything in advance. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like you want this work done. You'd think they'd be able. able to sort of, you know, but I need 10,000 pounds now to buy the tiles now. Yeah. And it's like, but do you not, you know, I've given you the deposit.

You know, I've paid half. Like how do I need to, do you know, it's like, oh, it's like, oh. Yeah. It's like you're being held over a barrel. It's like, we don't want to finish it unless you pay. Well, yeah. And the thing is, you think about it realistically, though. From their perspective, from their perspective, people not paying is also a concern.

Like, a lot of these businesses are not some big multi-million thing. They can say, oh, pay at the end. These guys are, I mean, I know a lot of the times when we've hired them, they're like, can you give me some money so we can pay the lads this week? Do you know what I mean? Like, it's very much money and money out. Like, they're not sick on a fortune. So if they need bits, they're going to get you to pay for them.

Because think of the number of times that they must get hit by people saying, sorry, mate, I'm out of money, we're not paying you. Like, well, now I'm on the hook for all these tiles. Yeah. Big job as well. Exactly. I sympathize. They can't just wait to be paid at the end.

like entirely, you know, if they were entirely set on a huge buffer, that buffer would go out of the door immediately, right? But it's like, it's just like, you know, it's just not setting out that expectation as well. And also the expectation of all the extras. I think that's the thing that's got me. It's like, oh, oh, you wanted this done? Oh, you wanted, oh, you wanted this done. Well, we used lead instead of fiberglass for this, so it's going to be an extra five grand.

Right, right. You know, it's like, it's like, we wanted to do it properly for you, so that will be an extra 10 grand. Yeah. Hmm. Okay. You know, I don't know. It does, it's after a while, it starts to really great and become like not as, not as, I mean, again, I'm happy with the work and I know it costs money. And it's, I think it's the setting expectations and just the, the immediacy of it all, you know, me getting a phone call at like 9pm saying they need the money now kind of thing. It's like, what, why didn't you tell me this to, you know, before, was there no planning? Was there no, it's all very last minute and so frustrating to deal with. Because it's so anxiety-inducing, right? I don't know.

I'm experiencing a lot of stress. You've got the tradesman en-wee. You got the on-wee. You got the on-wee. The tradesman-on-wee. I love them, but I also feel like, you know, it's so frustrating. Give me a. So anyway.

Yeah. No, I feel for you. No, having been through similar, quite, recently and kind of being on the done with it, but still not quite done with it. There's still like a couple of little bits and pieces and stuff. It is, it's so frustrating. It's really demoralizing. It's quite stressful because you're trying to live in this place while this is all happening and stuff too. And it's like, I get it. You know, like there's other things to complain about, you know, people have it way worse or whatever. But like, you know, everything's relative. And if that's

your experience and your expectations are one thing and what's being delivered is like nowhere near those. It sucks. It's always going to suck. I think it's just a desire for like perfection, right? And seeing how transient that is, right? Because, you know, we got a new carpet and then it flooded and now it's stained. And then we got all these decoration done and holes filled in. And now there's new holes and new cracks. And then there's loads of everything's dirty again. And like it needs to be redone again. And it's like, how many times do I redo the same thing? And And, like, you know, I don't know, like, there's this desire. Like, I can see why it's really, really stressful to have a brand new car and be so paranoid about being scratched or damaged or anything like that because, you know, it's, it's.

Yeah, but you've bought a really old car that was like, yeah. Yeah. I bought a really old house. Sorry, no. No. Oh, yeah, that's your house. Sorry. I thought you actually bought a car.

I was going to say, what the hell? I haven't bought a car. I'm not going to buy a fucking new one. I'm going to buy one that's fucked to begin. You're going to get one of those lads with the flags. It's got to wave a flag when you're going down the road, like the old cars, the very original cars. You would have a man walking in front, waving a flag saying,

look out, there's a car coming. That's what you should get. Oh, God. It's got like the old horn. It's Lord Lulu Brindley of Kinchel. Hello, people. It's me. Get to work on my roof, all of you. That's you.

Fucking better. Because, God, it's too, it's all, if it wasn't so depressing and anxiety inducing, It would be hilarious, but it's just so frustrating and expensive. Yeah. It's expensive too. God. And I get it, right? Like, everything's expensive. Lead's expensive. It's all expensive. It's all expensive. They, you know, have a lot of the money. Pop to waitrose the other day to pick up some lead for dinner. I couldn't believe the price of it. Yeah, I had to pick up a whole bunch to mix into my favorite paint. And yeah, yeah, I was surprised too. Very expensive.

I had to add some to my petrol. Cost of fortune. You wonder why the boomers are all mad. They're why They're all insane. They grew up in the era when lead was in everything and now they're crazy. Now it's plastic. Yeah. Now we're all crazy with plastic in us. I'm crazy in love like Beyonce. Nice.

Oh, that's good. I mean I'm crazy in love with Beyonce. Sorry, I got that, got that wrong. Fair enough. I went to the theater a couple of weeks ago because we've missed an episode, so I haven't had time to tell you about paranormal activity the stage show. Oh, God. I'm so glad you went.

God. God, God. Is that the one that you got free tickets to? God, no. You went to the one that you got free tickets to. No, I didn't get free tickets. That was the opera. That was the opera, sorry.

Yeah. I'm getting my... Operetta, actually. I'm getting my... You're getting your high-brow pursuits. All muddled up. All muddled up. Yeah, that's it.

Oh, dear, me. No, no, that was when I went to the opera. This was the theater, of course. Yeah. It was very lowbrow. I got that confused with... I went to the wimpy and bought three burgers. And a bender in a bun?

Did you get a bender in a bun? A bender in a bun. God. For anyone wondering, that was what they used to call a big, slightly curved hot dog in a bun. It would be there on the menu, Bender in a Bun, which was quite funny. We all thought it was hilarious when we were younger. And looking back now, I guess they just had no idea what the fuck they were doing. Anyway, it also wasn't very good.

It was genuinely, this station was genuinely terrifying. It was split into two halves. First half was markedly better than the second half. Me and my daughter were petrified. We went to see it. I snuck some booze in because it's too expensive to buy booze at the bar. So I bought a couple of those little miniature bottles of white wine that you can get. You know, it's like a little, you know, it's like a little quarter bottle of white wine.

Yeah. And I stuffed them in my socks, one in each sock. Nice. So I could just slide through. You have like a couple of shrimps in your pocket and like, you properly smuggled those in. You did, probably didn't need to take that such lengths. I appreciate the effort you went. If I'm going to break the rules, Lulu, I go all in.

All right. Right. In for a penny, in for a pound. That's the way I see it. So you kind of already set yourself up by doing something slightly illegal and slightly anxiety making it beforehand.

Yeah. But what are they going to do? They're going to frisk me at Richmond Theatre? No, but you were psychologically a bit worried that you've done something legal. If they caught me, I'd just say, oopsie.

I always keep my way in there. I think a lot of things you can just play dumb and get away with the older you get. I've learned this. You know, you can just be, oh, sorry, I didn't know how that worked. Sorry, I have dementia. Oh, it's okay.

It's okay. Like, you know, I know, we'll get you back to the nursing home and get your your food juice in two minutes. Don't worry about it. And you're like, oh, I'm sorry. I really messed it up for everybody, didn't I? But like, I knew all along. I poop my pants.

We both went to pooping pants. So we, it was, there was a moment in the, in the play, which, so for anyone that's seen the movies, there's, I mean, I don't know why they're calling it paranormal activity. I guess just for the name. I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, a pretty generic, haunted house kind of thing. Yeah. And there's no real reason for it to have the name Paranormal Activity other than it takes

place in a regular house, the stage of which the set, I mean, was amazing. It was like a whole ground floor with a kitchen and a living room and a little dining area and front door and a side door and then stairs going up to the bedroom and the bathroom. You can see the whole thing. It was like a cross-section of a house. It was very clever. Okay, cool. And it combines sort of traditional sort of horror tropes with what I can only describe as,

stage magic. So there's a very good moment. It's the moment that everybody screamed, including me, and I just couldn't believe it. His girlfriend and him are having an argument, and she sort of goes upstairs, or she's upstairs already, something like that. She comes downstairs, you can see her,

she comes downstairs, and she's standing by the sink, and he's sort of talking to her and talking to her, and he's sort of confessing something quite personal, and then his girlfriend opens the door upstairs and says, Who are you talking to down there? And he turns, and the dressing gown that she was wearing just vanishes. And it's like a classic redirect magic trick where, you know, she's come downstairs,

gone through a trap door, gone back upstairs, and it's now reappearing in a different spot. But to see it happen live on the stage without known it was coming of this person vanishing in front of your eyes and you realizing the ghost is impersonating her sort of thing, everybody screamed. It was genuinely terrifying. Nice. And I was like, I was like, my heart was going and my daughter was like, I can't handle this. We've got to go. Like, it was really good.

And I was like, do you actually want to go? She was like, no, of course I don't actually want to go. But I can't handle this. I was like, I got you. I'm going. The second half was not as good, but it was really, really fun. It was really fun. Yeah, so that was good.

I would never go to something like that. It's too scary for me. Too spooky. So it involves leaving the house. We've got to wear that detail. I left the house. I've been out. Well, you're leaving the house to go and watch a stage show about people in a house.

The whole point of the whole paranormal activity thing is it is very ghetto. It was an indie film, right, originally. It got huge and I think it was a little bit like it grew out of that. It became a franchise. It was also the found footage thing and, you know, it was kind of like that. It was that era, wasn't it? Yeah. Blair Witch type era of things that were very low budget horror,

but they were very well done. They did have a moment that they missed that they could have easily used. So first of all, the play does start doing the same. You're not talking to who you think you are, it does that four times. So by the third time, you're like, geez, come on. And then the fourth time, you're like, all right.

So it's like, you know, that's not so. So who are you talking to? You're like, fuck off, you've already done that. Do something else? So it kind of, the fear dries up when you see the repetition. But there's a moment where they're both sort of asleep on the sofa. And this shadow walks across the stage, which is quite well done.

And then on the TV, Countdown is playing. Right. And I thought there was a nice moment where the Countdown Word was going to be something really bizarre or related to the story. And that didn't happen. And then I thought the time I was like, do-to-do-do-do-do-do-do. I was like, as soon as this counts down, something's going to go. Because you've built the tension just with the countdown timer. Everyone's watching it.

It's really familiar. We're watching the countdown time. And it gets to the end. And he goes, right, what have you got? and they just talk about their words. I was like, come on, you had a setup right there for a jump scare, but they didn't use it. Yeah, little things like that where you think it was kind of weird. Well, you tempted to go backstage after and just say, I had some ideas about how to make this a lot better.

No, I just yelled them in the play. Raw, that's a good idea. I think you could have used that bit. We're going to go down. But the thing is, you could tell that they started to lose the audience because people started to shout shit, which was quite funny. Oh, really? Yeah. Like, I mean, you're in the theater, so you don't normally get people yelling shit.

But he wasn't really yelling. This guy just raised his voice. This guy says something is about to happen. He just goes, oh, shit. Like, in a really bored voice. And it was genuinely the way he dropped. It was so funny. Because at that point, you could tell we'd all give it up on this action.

You know what I mean? He was just like, oh, shit. Like, oh, dear, me, what next? You know? That's hilarious. It was funny. So paranormal activity was released in 2007 on a budget of between $15,000 to $4,000. $150,000.

I don't know what that means, but it made $200 million. Yeah, yeah, it made a fortune. The second one was, each one is worse, by the way. There's like a rating graph thing, and they all get, every single episode is worse than the last one.

Paranormal Activity 3 made 200, again, almost 200 million off a budget of 3 million. Paranormal Activity 3 made 200 million off a budget of 5 million. Paranormal Activity 4 made 100,000. 50 million off a budget of $5 million. That is insane. Then it was paranormal activity, the marked ones, which again, well, this one made 100 million only.

But it only cost about 10. So horror is the best genre for making money. I listen to something about this. The ghost dimension was the next one. Again, I'm not seeing any. And then it was paranormal activity next of kin. Yeah. Doesn't even mention how much that one makes.

It doesn't matter. They're all making money. They're all making money. There's a new one coming out. Paranormal Activity is set to be released next May. It's got not even a name yet. It's got, you know, random people in it, and it's the whole thing. The thing with horror is you don't need a big name.

You don't need great effects. It can be done very simply on pretty straightforward sets, and it's just, it just works. Like horror is just the best for the money that you could possibly make. it's the most profitable genre and has been for ages because you get young people coming into the cinema and they won't go to see some stuffy old shit. It's very forgiving in terms of quality as well. I think you can have a bad...

Yeah, I think you can have a bad horror and people still love it. Look at the Saw movies. I'm not being funny. They're not great works of art, but people love those movies. All the scream movies, they were never really any good. No, I never got all the love for Screen 1.

Everybody went nuts for it. I thought it was very straightforward. Scream one. Scream. Scream. Scream. Oh, you know what? I'm getting Scream mixed up with scary movie, which was the parody of the screens.

Well, that was supposed to be a parody of all. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Scream, I remember what Scream the one that had, no, when a stranger calls back is the one where the phone call was coming from in the house, right? That was when a stranger calls back.

And it was the guy who was disguised as the brickwork. He was in the house all along. He was like, I mean, that's such an old horror trope. I don't know if that was a... Well, it's an old movie as well. I mean, I watched it when I was like 10 years old or something, I think. Okay. Yeah.

It's a scary movie that came out this year, wasn't there? Because, I mean, it's done... There's six of them in the... Do I mean, even the parody has done six. That's how much fucking money they make. I think that's part of it, right? Like, if you make a movie and it costs $3 million or $5 million and it makes $200 million, you're like, well, we're going to fucking do it again, aren't we?

You know, like, it's almost like very hard not to when they are that successful to make a, make them turn a budget on a sequel. Yeah, yeah, it's just good money. But I've got to tell you, on my way back to the station, I keep trying to tell this because it really made me laugh. I'm walking past. I'm heading towards Richmond Station and get a bus. And there's this old boy at the defibrillator station. You know, there's defibrillator booths that you see in the street. Yeah, yeah. And he's leaning against it.

And I said to him, are you right? Because I was worried he was, you know, having a heart problem. He's like, why wouldn't I be all right? I said, well, you're at the defibrillator station. Is everything right? He said, I'm charging my phone. And then he flipped me off. Wow.

Cool. What a society we live in? I couldn't believe. What a bastard. And then my daughter said, when she was in Richmond earlier, she was like, that was the old guy that had two big bottles of booze rested on a bollard, and he was just drinking from the multer. So he's just one of the station drunks.

Right. But my other question is, why is her charging socket for that the fucking defib station. Why is he? Well, I guess there's electricity going through. So they're like, well, if people need to charge their phone. Who flips anyone off nowadays? Like, what was the last time you actually flip the bird to somebody in, in, like, in annoyance or anger?

Like, I don't think I've ever done it in anger in my life. I don't think I'd ever do that. Jokily all the time. I mean, I do it jokingly. Like, I've never seriously would do that, though. But, like, how, how do you have that in your? I get flipped off quite a lot. I think people don't like me.

I got flipped off the other day because I was in a multi-story car park. You live in London, though. It's a big city, right? True. There was a lady going the wrong way around the car park. She was going literally, she'd go the wrong way. And I was like trying to go the right way. And she was looking at me like I was crazy.

And we sort of pulled alongside each other and said, you're going the wrong way. She's like, I fucking know and flipped me off. And I was like, all right. Oh, shit. Yeah. People are nuts. God, it's like on a hair trigger as well, like that flip off. There's no gradual lead up to it.

It's just like, I'm ready to flip someone off. And the next person that speaks to me is getting blasted with this thing. Like, that's insane to me. Yeah. I dropped the wrong way. I got flipped off by a guy. This was about, this was about three or four months ago. A lot of people don't know that the rules have changed when it comes to a right of way.

If you're on a main road and you're turning into a side road and pedestrians are crossing on that side road, you have to stop if you're a motorist. You have to stop. You always had to stop for people. But now you literally have to wait. If people are trying to cross, you have to wait. A lot of these drivers think that they can just turn the wheel and go. And so this guy and this fucking Tesla, it's always these Tesla pricks. He just comes flying through, beeping to get people out of the way.

And then he pulls into the car park of the shop that we were going into. And I said to him, nice driving, mate. You almost hit some people. He was like, you need to learn how to cross the road. I was like, I don't think you understand how to drive. Maybe you let the car do it for you next time. next time. And he flipped me off and went into the ship.

Holy fuck. You've been flipped off. You've been flipped off. Three times in the last year. Three times in the last year, which is more than I've ever been flipped off in my entire life. I'm 46 years old.

Really flipped me off. Nobody's ever flipped me off, I don't think. I don't think I've, oh no. No, I lie. I got double flipped off one time. Oh, here we go. This was unbelievable. Okay.

I turned up to, it's a small intersection with no lights or something. So it's a typical jersey thing. You turn up and then it's just like you wait to see who's going to go and if people let you go or whatever. So I crawl up to this little intersection look and there's a guy waiting. So I wave to him, start driving. And he almost teabones me. He starts driving as well because I think he took my wave as if to say, go ahead.

But I was waving to say, thanks. Because over here it's the done thing as well. There's a lot of... No, of course. You wave to say thanks. But a wave, like a hand up. Yeah. The little hand up wave is to say thank you.

Yeah. But I do a sort of, enough to you, sort of quite elaborate gesture. I do that one as well. If I want somebody to cross, I'll like move my hand to say like, you move.

I'll be like, but this was a one hand up, thank you. So he starts driving. Nearly T-bones me. And I'm driving through. And I look at my, my window,

my driver's side window, at him. And this guy, okay, he must have been like 60 years old wearing a beanie cap is double flipping me off. Like he's like,

two middle fingers up, not even hands on the wheel or anything, and he's still driving, double flipping me off. I couldn't believe it. That's the only time I've ever been flipped off in my life. Unbelievable.

That is a very easy, well, I've noticed around my way that people start doing the light flashing thing. Now, this was not something that I saw much of when I was driving. It was more. But now it seems like flashing lights is almost like, I'm going to, I'm going to do something.

No, the flashing lights is after you. Like over here, if somebody flashes you, that's, they're slow down flash you and you can go. And it happens all the time over here. Yeah, yeah. You flash, flash, you're just a little flash of the high beams. Barely any stop signs. There's loads of roads with no lights and stuff. Like it's all small little higgledy, piggledy roads.

So there is a lot of that. You shouldn't do it. You shouldn't actually do it because if you flash someone, there's like the classic set of beers, there's one guy waiting to turn out and one guy waiting to turn in and you flash which one are you flashing? Out of context. So what I do is I have a special outfit.

I've got the white gloves and a black jacket. When this situation occurs, I hop out, whistle you, that way you hold. Now go, go. You wait. Yeah, you start doing the dance as well. You've got to like start twirling your arms around. The crazy thing is, is I keep getting flipped off when I'm done.

I don't understand it. I'm out there waving my white gloves, my outfit, the whistle. People just flip me off. You've got your wheelie out and everyone. People wearing it around. People lose their minds in their cars. People flipping you off. One time I was joining a roundabout and there was a woman on the roundabout coming

around the roundabout. And I was just waiting for her. But then she stopped in the middle of the roundabout. about to let me go. And I was like, what are you doing? Oh, that's insane. Yeah, it was insane. And then the person next to me started rolled down the window, start honking.

What the fuck are you doing? Fuck you! Like, you're just going mad. And I was just in my car like, okay, like, it's not that bad. Is he going mad at you for no? No, the lady. You should never stop on a on a roundabout. Once you're on there, it's yours.

You got it. Just beep it. Where are you going? You're on Jersey. Oh, my God. It's unbelievable. You're probably going to Sainsbury or whatever. Calm down.

We go to the same place. Yeah, come on now. Yeah. Insane. Before we continue, this message is sponsored by Raycon. Now that it's October, it's officially Raycon Month. I have been using these Raycon everyday earbuds as part of my everyday routine. So it feels right to give it its own spotlight.

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I'm not going to say a word while this happens, okay? Why? Because a lot of people are like, oh, it's so sad. Sips doesn't watch movies. You can't even spare two minutes to watch movies. I love movies. When they interrupt, period, when he's trying to say something about funny about movies. So you know what?

I'm not going to join into movie talk, not you. Okay, I don't, I haven't watched any movies, so I have nothing to say about movies. Go on. Let's just be silent and listen to you talk. Go on. So this is about old movies. Okay, old movies. I might have seen movies.

I might have something to say then. So have you seen Fargo? Of course. And have you seen The Notebook? No. There's no reason he would have seen The Notebook. So I, my daughter, she really likes movies and we watch films together. And I'll watch a film of hers, if you like.

So one that she's a big fan of. And then she has to watch one that I'm a big fan of in return. Right. I'm trying to get her into some of the, what I consider films that when I was growing up, I love, like Fargo, for example. Fargo is great, yeah. Great movie. So I think that came out like 96. It's a true story.

It's not a true story. They admitted that that was made up. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they made that right up they did. The weatherfront coming in there.

Oh, yeah. Like, it's all that kind of stuff. So, oh, yeah. So I really liked Fargo, and I still do. And I hadn't watched it all the way through in a good few years. But we watched the notebook first. And that was how I then said, can we now watch one of my films? She was like, yes.

The notebook is the very opposite of Fargo. Okay. So the notebook was made in 2004. It's got a young Ryan Gosling and a young Rachel McAdams, and it's just a straight love story. Right. And the love story is that there's this old guy goes to a nursing home and he's reading a book to this old lady.

And it becomes clear very quickly that this old lady and this old guy are the two characters that we see the young versions of, the Ryan Gosling, right? I see. And she's gone senile and he's reading this story to her to try to remind her of how deep their love is and all the rest of it. So that's the notebook. That's the whole setup for the film.

It's very sentimental. There's very little in the way of peril. Every decision that gets made is in favor of the main characters, apart from like a couple of things. But I was crying uncontrollably by the end of it because I'm a big baby. And it was like a genuinely very moving manipulative film. Like I'm a big sucker for these kind of films. It plays the sad music and you can't help.

But it triggers everything. It's using all the ways to make you feel. sad in the right time. It's got it all. It's got it all. It's like feel sad now. It's got a, you know, they have to at the end of their summer. Don't think about it. Just be sad. Just cry now. Later on you could be, wait a minute, you tricked me. You know, that's how it kind of feels when you've been manipulated by a film. I always go into a film completely open-minded, ready to empathise with everything. And only if something really stupid happens, well, I'd be like, okay, I'm done. Or if it's really boring. But if it's the notebook, which is like,

it's very hard to maintain that distance when you're, immersed. This media that we watch really does hook us in, and we're sort of conditioned to it, really, but we are very easy to manipulate too. And oftentimes, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes you, like, I don't know, okay, let's just carry on, go on, tell me more. So we're watching the notebook and the setup, I'll give you the idea of the plot. Young couple fall in love. Everybody thinks it's a summer romance. It's actually real for them. He, Diori and Gosling, tells Rachel McCannams, I'm going to buy this old house. house that's knocked down, do it up for you.

How would you like it done? She's like, I want it painted white with blue shutters. I want a patio, a porch that goes all the way around it. We can sit, watch the sunset and just spend our life together. He's like, cool, I'll do that. And then her parents are like, because he's poor. He works in the woodmill, but he's also dashingly handsome because it's Ryan Gosling. Of course.

And she is like, comes from Southern money. That boy's no good for you. You can't go out with him. He only earns 40 cents an hour, you know, that kind of thing. So you're meant to think like, oh, their love is doomed because. of money. She goes away. They sort of break up, but they don't really break up. He writes her a letter every day for a year, confessing he still loves her and asks her to come back. Her mother secretly hides those letters. She thinks he's left that he doesn't want her anymore. It's over.

Moves on with her life. She starts to marry a new guy, gets engaged in everything. Then she sees a picture in the paper that he's done the house up and she's like, oh my God, I thought he'd sort of stopped, realizes this is a sign to come back and they fall in love again. She leaves her new husband and they're happily ever after. God. That's the whole movie. They need to do a side movie about that husband that was left. That's brutal. He must be so heartbroken. No, he was cool with it. Like, this is the thing. Oh, he was just like, I recognize that this love is greater than the one that we would ever

share together. So I'd love it if it's a heart turned into like a murder. Right. Murder to, you know. Like, he's so reasonable that you don't, you don't, like, you just think, but I'm like, what the fuck? Like that, what movie does that? Well, he's just like, I understand you're leaving me for another man. very well. Yeah. Good luck to you. It's like, what?

So he doesn't even really try to get it back beyond just saying, I can't stop you, you know. Enjoy living the rest of your life with a pussy, bitch. But it's things like that where there's no real tension between any of the characters. Because even when they're upset by something, they just go, oh well. And I was like, come on. Like that's how it's very, very, everybody's so reasonable. Yeah.

Which is so ridiculous, you know? Like her parents. Even them, they're not really that bad. They just say he's not suitable. And then when she confronts her mother about the letter, she's like, yeah, I did that, sorry. And let me show you that this is the guy that I was in love with. Same situation, you need to do the right thing. Her father never gets another line in the movie after this.

Like, it's just everything that happens goes their way. And there's very little trauma beyond, you know, the sadness of the fact that she's gone senile. The old age, senility. They die at the same moment and everything. And she's like, my God, why am I crying? This is so obvious. They die at the same moment.

Where they both like holding guns to each other's heads and crying. No, they just both died. You pull the trigger. No, you. No, you do it. Bang. Oh, we both killed each other or something like. That would have been pretty cool.

But no, they just lie in a bed next to each other. Oh, my God. Yeah, there's like talk about miracles and all this kind of crap. Because every time he reads the book to her for about five minutes, she'll get her old mind back and suddenly remember everything, which is, of course, not how synility works. So it's just Morkishly Is Morkish the right word? Yeah, it is.

It's kind of Morkish andly Fingish andly Fingish andly Exceratively falsely Sickeningly Sincerementmental It really is But I also cried my eyes out

It gives people Of a little bit of that Idea of what these things are like You know It puts a rose tinted vision On what it's otherwise It was And it was just kind of like

Geez I thought she's gonna get Like surely She's going to get like surely She's going for a drive at one point and there's a truck come the other way and she's not looking. I think, okay, here we go. This is the sad bit.

And no, she just judges it and then goes back to him. I was like, fuck it, hell. It is really very little barrel. So you picked this movie? My daughter, she says this is her favorite film. She is 14. Yeah, fair enough. So then I was like, all right, so we're going to watch Fargo.

Right. She did not like Fargo. She did it. She did it. Not like a app. What were the key things that she disliked about Fargo? She was like, there's nothing happening. It is like, yeah.

Yeah, but it's like it's a slow burn about everyday people in these bizarre situations. Yeah, and they keep all saying the same thing, like, oh yeah, what is that? I was like, that's just like the funniness of North Dakota. It's like the six, seven of its time, yeah. Right. I was like, that's just their access. And these movies are honestly only eight years apart. It's not like there's generations.

These are from the same era, I mean, late 90s, early 90s. Yeah. It's not, it's not like, like, it's not like. Did you say? Ninety-six. These are not decades apart, you know. But one of them is, I guess the notebook is that whole Friends era of fake kind of just, just bollocks.

So let me just say, when she told me that this is what she wanted to watch, because we go to the movies a lot together. Like, we're going to go see the Nathan Fielder documentary next month. Oh, that sounds really good. This looks really good. And I saw the trailer and the trailer was like, this is not what you expect it to be. Utterly bonkers. It's Nathan Fielder, so you know it's going to take the left turn.

But if you look, I want to look at the notebook and just look at the poster on Wikipedia. That was what I saw. And when I saw that, I was like, ah, shit, what have I agreed to watch? Like the couple kissing and the rain and everything. It was exactly that. Right. Right. So Fargo is obviously a completely different movie. Yeah.

And it's just very dark. It's quite sad. And she just, yeah, she just didn't get it at all. I think they are supposed to be very different in a sense. Of course, no, they're not related in any way, but it was just... I'm not sure if I would have appreciated Fargo much when I was 14 either, though. That's what I said to her. I said, love, you're only 14.

I'm sure I was watching Terminator 2 on repeat at that age. And she was like, it's not because I'm 14. It's just because I don't think it's very good. I was like, yeah, but in a few years time, you might. Like, your taste in films and what you're looking for does change. You probably appreciate it more once you're a bit older. Right, right, right. Is it aged okay?

What, Fargo? Yeah. It's still a great movie. I will say, what's quite funny is watching it, there's a few shots and a few sort of bits of camera work that you think later era Coen Brothers wouldn't have made that choice. True. Like some of the shooting and some of the sort of shot selections are a little clunky, which is kind of weird.

I mean, I think they improve as cinematographers and filmmakers later, but it's a very, very good movie. stuff is kind of like not so much an acquired taste, but like they, they, they, they have a pace to their movies that you either like or don't, right? Like, uh, some people find them way too slow, but I, I, I find them perfect. Like, I just like, I know, I like to immerse myself in like a, a slower movie, you know, like it's just, I don't mind as long as like the dialogue is pretty good and the story is like pretty good. Like, I'll, I'll, I'll like it sort of thing. It doesn't need to be action-packed for me. I feel like a lot of their stuff, the characters are the most important part of the film.

Yeah. Like, always in a... They're quite rich characters as well. Rich, interesting, weird characters. And if you're not into that, you just want to see things happening. Fair enough. I mean, the character depth to the notebook is, you know, he's just the perfect guy. That's pretty much it.

Yeah. Like, he just, she wants a house built for it. He builds a house for it. He goes away to war. He comes back without a scratch. You know, if he does anything, he does it great. He's super romantic. He never forgets.

He's always in love with him. He always waits. He's just like this perfect guy. Yeah. So I feel like that's pure fantasy because as we know, men are the worst. My wife would find that movie very boring because she's used to having like a perfect guy in me. A real man. A real perfect man.

A real, a real strong man. I pick people up and put them on my shoulders and carry them out with tears in my eyes and in their eyes as well. Exactly. I'm a great guy. Exactly. The greatest, maybe. Lulu, what do you think of the movie, The Notebook? Have you seen it?

It's like reading a... He's scoffing. Pornow book or whatever. What? It's not my thing. It's like certain people read that, like, they read all those, the most popular... Erotic fantasies. Erotic, do you know what I mean?

It's like reading, it's not really watching a movie, is it? It's like emotional pornography. That's when the window washer popped open an ice cold can of Diet Coke, and I started masturbating in the online. office right in front of everybody. You know what? You know that shot where the ladies is a very famous ad from the 90s when there's a guy washing windows with his shirt off.

Yeah, treating him like a piece of meat. Yeah, but it would have been a very different ad if he'd whipped it out and started jerking off at them through the window. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been really weird. I guess my feeling with when I watch, what I watch movies is I want to watch something that is some element of escape. I don't, I know, I realize sometimes when you look at the Ron Smartos top of

movies of the year or whatever, and 99 of them are some expose of like the conditions in the slums of Brazil or some African village where they're all being killed by a warlord or something terrible. It's all terribly depressing real life stuff or fictionalized versions of it, which are equally miserable, really, right? And I can't be doing that, really. So I think the reason that critics always give those. movie's great reviews is, first of all, you can't give a really earnest, well-made movie about

the conditions in Gaza, say, and then be like, one out of ten, boring. You have to give a praise. But equally, you know, these guys are so cynical from their job because they've seen behind the curtain, right? They know how the industry works. Yeah, they know how cynical it is. Yeah. So when they, you know, watch a movie that's very obviously made to be a blockbuster, it's like,

again, like we know what you guys are doing, and they've seen every movie ever made. These guys never stop watching movies. So they're just like, this is just like so-and-so, which is a much better film. So film critics can never win because... But the other thing that you get is the opposite side of that, which is where the audience fucking love it. Yes, of course. And the critics hate it.

And that is, you see movies like that all the fucking time. I mean, paranormal activity, probably a very good example. Well, exactly. I think it's critics, I mean, it's critics' job to be critical of something. even if they like it and it's good. They have to point out that, like, technically the things that, you know, might not be great about it. Because it's important for, you know, some people are just such rabid fans of something. It doesn't matter if anything is bad in it.

They will just, you know, cultishly love it. The critics are all going to do their fan. You know, that's just the way it goes. I don't know why people get so fucking critics. I don't care whether they think, well, fine. There will be times when they've actually saved you. I'll take you by saying this is a piece of shit. Like necessarily a perfect score because I don't think anything is is necessarily

perfect, you know? And I think they kind of stick to that too, you know, like they'll say something is really good. It's like an eight out of ten. And then somebody will be like, oh my God, that's fucking stupid. It should be a ten. It should be 11 out of ten. This is my favorite thing ever.

But it's like, yeah, I know. It's your favorite thing. But like, you know, there's still probably flaws with it. And like, rightfully so, they have to point those out. and score it accordingly. I'm glad that they do it. I feel like the critics are forced to watch movies and review them, whereas people tend to only review something

if they either love it and want to tell people about it, or they've heard it's bad and want to stand up for it, or they thought it was going to be good and then it isn't good. I think that's the thing, when an audience is disappointed by something. Like, I mean, there's always a new fucking latest secret, of something and you've always got the diehard fans. I can't, I can't, like, oh, there's no new Resident Evil out this at the moment? Yeah, apparently it's quite good.

It's by the Craigor, the guy who did weapons and barbarian. Exactly. I mean, I've heard that was actually quite good. And I think that's, you know, and I think that that probably pleases fans and, you know, schlocky horror fans alike, you know. I think it's probably everyone can get on board, especially if they've got someone like from weapons. I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I play a lot of video games. And recently, I've started reviewing the video games I'm playing as well. For example, I've been playing this

new video game that came out. It's called War Dogs. And I, people ask me what my review is on it. Like, what would I score out of 10? And I said, well, like all of my reviews, very conditional. So I gave War Dogs a two out of 10, even though. Wow. You've been playing a shitload. I know. But I said there'd be, I give it a three. three out of ten if there was fishing in it. I'd give it a four out of ten if there was fishing and if I could build some sort of house or like even like a customize my base somewhat or whatever. You know, do you see where I'm going with this?

Sure. Like I start low and then I sort of, I leave it open to the devs to sort of, you know, make the game. So it starts with a zero and then you get more points from me. Yeah. Base building adds two. That's one. What else are your conditions that add points? I think they should remove infantry from the game.

playable infantry. That would be push it up to a five. I know a lot of people complain about, oh, mortars are so overpowered. Oh, the helicopters are so overpowered. Well, I'll tell you what, I get killed by inventory way more than any of those things. So I think they should take infantry out of the game and then it would be a five out of ten for me. Replace infantry with like really dumb AI so that I have more stupid people to kill with mortars and drones and stuff like that. It would be a five out of ten immediately for me. You see what I mean? played it, Lewis. No, of course not.

It's got some fundamental problems. The only game I've played in the last year is sniper Dan. Sniper Dan. You haven't played a game other than that in the last year? You played games. Well, I haven't really. This guy plays games. This guy, he's holding out for World of Warcraft forever.

He wants to get back into classic plus. That sounds like what they tell you at the gates of hell, of what you're punishing is. You have to play World of Warcraft. Forever. Exactly. That sounds like a threat. I totally shocked by that name. But no, people were talking about that.

I think someone said they would send an email to the mailbag about it. P. Flax. World of the Warcraft forever. So you might have to do that tomorrow or future. What? About War Dogs. About War Dogs forever? What about?

War Dogs forever. I think it's something we can talk about for sure. You don't want to talk about it or you do want to talk about it. Well, I don't want to talk about it. Okay. I have a history with this game and it's difficult. I don't want to be pulled back in. But recently, I think I do want to be pulled back in.

He wants to. Because I've been undergoing such a stressful experience. Yeah, he wants that comfortable, safe comfort. I think with everything going on in the world right now, I just want to bury my head in a game and not think about any of it. Do I mean? And wow sounds perfect. It's a great, great game.

for burying your head in and not having to think. It's perfect for that. See, I think war dogs is like that too. I don't know. It's quite difficult, I think war dogs. No. I think the issue, so the issues with war dogs are, first of all, getting your team to do anything is very difficult.

It doesn't matter though. People are very unhelpful. Second of all, if you don't pick the right team on the team select screen, you just lose. Yeah, but that doesn't matter either. One team does everything. Yeah, it does because what's the point in the money? I know you've accrued money. Yeah.

But you never spend it on like a tank or a cool gun. You just keep making money. Like you're just seeing it like a high score. Yeah. So the problem with that is that's not really helping us win. If you just build a base and see it. Isn't that kind of the nature of money anyway? That's how money works in the real world too.

You buy things with it. Not always. No. Sometimes you just have a lot of it and you don't really buy that much stuff. But you could. You could. But the point is you're just like, I refuse to. I'm not going to shoot anybody.

Because I know that I've been streaming it. And you've been streaming it. And I've had people come in and said, finally I can see how this game is actually meant to be played. Because when they watch Sips play it, all these does is build a base and will not shoot a shot the entire hour. No, I've never bought a gun. Right. So they're like, what is happening?

What is this game? And then they come to my stream and I'm trying to do a combination of things. I'm doing drops and I'm going and fighting and rescuing people and dragging bodies around. Yeah, but that's a miserable way to play the game though. Because like you said, you can't win. You just can't win. No, I can't win because if you guys in base who don't have a gun, dying to one life, lad, we were trying to build a base

other day. I was trying to be one of the base builders. Right. There's all these guys just parachuting in to snipe from the top of a tower. That's all they want to do is lie on a tower for the whole round sniping people, not trying to help anyone. I know it's miserable, isn't it? None of them think to defend the base. We're trying to build this base. Then they're like, where's the fob? Why haven't you

build a base? Because there's two guys with guns here who've killed all the Sipses that are trying to build the base. It's literally like a massacre. Yeah. It's so horrible. This sounds so much more fun than worrying about my roots. I'd rather

be dying in a base with you guys. Okay, listen. I need to get back into gaming. Listen to this. It's so much fun. We build a base. I just want to withdraw from the world. There's no way to build a perfect base. You're always going to die in the base. So what you do is you resign yourself to the fact that you kind of build

a base and then you sort of leave the rest of the team to worry about the base. What I do is I build myself like a little mini base within the base. Okay. So I build my own walls. I get my little setup going. And then if I'm lucky, I won't get mortared or sniped or hit by a helicopter or whatever.

And I can just launch UAV drones up into the air. And all I do is hunt around for APCs, which are like mobile spawn points or that bullshit two and a half kilometer range. Oh my go. The artillery. I hunt around for them as well. Man, I make so much money. It's insane. Everybody's like, there's no way you can make money off UAV.

I make tons. It's crazy. I'm finishing games like 300 grand profit. It's insane. That's crazy. And all I got to do is just fright in the base. But this is one of the problems is that the incentive is not there a lot of the time to actually do the thing that you need to do to win the rounds.

But the beauty of it is that there's actually no incentive to win right now. You don't get anything for winning. That's the thing. It's mad. It's just playing the game. is better. Yeah. So it's like this area that moves around.

So it's sort of like a combination of a base building in squad or whatever. But the hill, if you like, the circle moves around this inner circle. And you can attract it to you by activating this drill. So everybody builds a base around a drill platform. You put fuel in the drill, you summon the circle, and when you have more guys on the circle than the other two teams, you start to go up. Your number starts to go up. And the first team to 100 wins.

Variably, green will be on like 85 points. Red will be on 12 and blue will be on 1. That's how it always goes. Green just wins the game and the other two teams are just filler. Because everybody's trying to pick the team that they know is the best, and everybody decided Green always wins. So all the players that want to win and really try hard go to green. And if you're not on them, you just lose.

But you can still make a fortune, like SIP says, just building a base and fire and a mortar. Another thing I was doing yesterday, and this is really fun. I unlocked AT mines. So what I did was at the start of the round, I bought the biggest backpack I could, filled it up with mines. And then I bought one of those Codiac pickup trucks and filled it up with mines. And then I drive to whoever I want to bully the most HQ, but just outside of it. And then that main road that connects like them to like all like the sort of like other roads. I line that entire road with mines.

And then when all my mines are spent, I go back. back to the base and do my thing. And so if I'm in the base and I'm using the UAV or whatever, every once in a while, I'm just getting like a multi-kill because like the APCs run over one of my minds. And the minds are persistent the whole round. So they're just there. It's insane. So like sometimes I'm blowing something up with like the UAV and then I'm just getting like these like combos of like vehicles blowing up. Uh, you know, logistics trucks blowing up. Oh, fuck. It's glorious. It's such a great game. little. They're like taking them out with an art.

First of all, that's good. I like that you're doing that. $250 bucks for a mine. And if you blow up a vehicle, it's like $3,000. If I don't have mines, if I don't have mines, I have to use an RPG and they cost a packet. And I'm probably going to die trying to use it. And you only really get like two shots. And it's hard to one shot any of the bigger vehicles. So there's really no point using the RPGs for this. You just have to use landmines. I haven't unlocked them yet. No, I know. It's like, C4 is quite fine. A lot of the CLA is running around with a lot of C4. insanely locked behind grind.

And I think one of the big problems with the game is that a lot of the counters for stuff is further on in the tree. So like stuff that you would. Have you seen a tank yet? Yeah. Well, now people are unlocking them. So yesterday when I was playing, I've seen loads. Yeah.

But I can blow them up with one shot with the stingray. So like it's. Oh, there you go. Is that the, the, the game resets the progress. I think it's in October they did. October 15th this season, too. Yeah. And I think they do like, maybe they do a patch then as well.

I think they'll balance. Yeah, I think they'll do a balance patch before season two. I don't think you should be able to choose your team. I think that would be the biggest balance change they could make. Well, another issue, you just have to be on a team. Another issue now is that you can freely change team during the course of the match. So what's happening is if somebody's got like a megapob that is like, people are having like a lot of trouble rating, somebody will just switch team to the team that owns the,

the big fob go over and sabotage them. Yeah. It'll deconstruct a bunch of stuff or whatever and then swap back and then they Yeah. People are the worst. Also the people just screaming the N-word on local chat is pretty, pretty unpaid. I'm just going to play solo. I heard a control came out.

I'm excited for that. I enjoyed the first one. Control. Control. Resident. I played a nice puzzle, like a mystery space station puzzle game with like a, with like a a loop in it called Rivage the other day. I think you'd probably like it, Lewis.

Rivage. Rivage. Rivage. Yeah. It just came out like a couple of days ago. Mostly positive. Yeah. It's nice.

It's an immersive sci-fi puzzle adventure. It feels like a point and click, but it's not like, you know, 2D, you know, space station. But you have the sort of like core mechanic is that the space station is on low power. So like every door that you open takes away a bit of power. and then basically you get a certain amount of power per loop. When you run out of power, you have to go to like this arcade machine and then restart. But the information that you gathered in that loop is persistent across the loop sort of thing. So like...

I'm buying it. Yeah, it's cool. So this is why... I mean, it says it's similar to observation as a bundle. I really enjoyed observation. Yeah, I think you. I honestly think you'd like this, Lewis. Like, it's...

Lewis, do you like hidden object games? I like a game that is immersive and puts you in. I think what I enjoyed last year. I enjoyed the altars. I told you. I never played that. I enjoyed it. I thought it was an excellent little game.

You seem like in your old age, you're going to be sitting there enjoying hidden object games. That's what my dad has. Hidden object games. I mean, sniper Dan is literally a hidden object game. Of course. Basically, you're a sniper and you shoot stuff. It's made by a British dev,

which I'm, I'm no, I'm aware of you're no fan of. He hates British devs. No, they're good lads. They made, they're good. Are they likely lads? Why did they? Are they cheeky lads?

You tell me. Sossy lads. We are the cheeky lads. Have you, if you guys, you guys know Phil Collins, right? Of course. I've heard of him. Philadelphia Collins or Phil Collins? Phil Collins.

Right, okay. Not the guy from trailer park voice. I can't weird Colin in the air the night. He was in a band that was quite big. So he was in Genesis. Genesis was also not big, but they were popular. They were a prog band in the 70s. And I thought it was interesting because I see a lot of people now, a lot of younger people

seem to really like the drum stuff. I find a lot of younger people nowadays, sorry, I won't like interrupt you too much, but a lot of younger people nowadays are rediscovering their love for Michael Jackson or experiencing Michael Jackson's catalog of hits for the first time. Have you noticed this trend? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like, I think there's a lot of love for the sort of older music. He's still touching people. He's still touching kids. He's still touching kids all over the world. Well done. What a beautiful story. That's so lovely to hear. Yeah.

I'm so glad that Michael is still touching children from beyond the grave. Yeah. That's wonderful. Zombie Michael and zombie. Gazing deep into their anus. Yeah. We can rethink. Jimmy Saville in a few years time and kids will realize what a great body of work he had.

Yeah. And that he can still touch the hearts of children, just the hearts. Rolf Harris as well. Rolf Harris break out some of his greatest hits. Two little boys and two little joys, that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know, revisit it in a few years time. Cosby, break out the greats.

Yeah, exactly. Anyway, sorry. Phil Collins, not a nonce, as far as I'm aware. As far as we know, yeah. Yeah. Seems like a decent guy. It's funny to me that people talk about Phil Collins as that, oh, God, the 80s were so great. Oh, Phil Collins, they were so lucky.

A lot of people really hated Genesis and Phil Collins in the 80s. Let's not forget that Phil Collins had the audacity to fly on the Concord airplane with a mullet. Let's never forget this. But also, don't forget that he was part of a very, very weird prog scene. Genesis was a big band in that era. Him and Peter Gabriel and the band. were like real Oter, weirdo,

crazy prog shit with like costume changes, 25 minutes songs, elaborate stage live shows and everything. There's an album of this called Supper's Ready, if you've never heard it, it's bonkers. Very, very, very weird. And they had a bunch of obsessive fans.

Gabriel leaves the band, they keep going for a bit, and then they change in the 80s, like overnight. Suddenly they've got that sort of shoulder pad will sort of suit that all the, guys seem to have in the 80s, beard, blowback, hair, do. Starfield, trousers.

Yeah, they're like, literally like, you know, we are an 80s band now, and they start making pop music. A lot of people love that pop music, but a lot of people hated Phil Collins for betraying his roots of frog and decency and selling out. And I think the idea of selling out doesn't exist nowadays the same way it did, because I think people sell out now so readily and so easily that people don't even see it as selling out. Doing adverts used to be the end of your career. That's why people went and did ads in Japan

to avoid the public gaze of seeing them do adverts as Hollywood actors. Now you see fucking people advertising just eat. You think, what does it come to? It's like, why is this actor doing this advert? So I think people have sold out now so much that people don't notice it anymore and they don't realize that Phil Collins was regarded as a sellout in the 80s. People don't notice it, but there's definitely even recently been

cases where it's backfired a little bit, right? Like selling out and sitting on the fence too hard, I guess. Like, well, like with the stuff that happened with Ed Shearin and all the support acts and stuff, there's still like an appetite to call people out for sure. I don't know if it's necessarily cancel culture, but I guess it kind of fits into cancel culture. I'm not saying that Ed Shearin's actually canceled. But I don't think you can be canceled anymore.

No. Like the idea that you're cancelled is just ridiculous. I mean, people just didn't want to work with him. And, you know, what is that being cancelled? If his band just opts to not work with him and now he has to do something else. I mean, I've thrown away all of Ed Sheeran's hot sauce that I had in my fridge. Yeah, me too. He had a really cool Ed Sheerun lunchbox and I refused to eat my lunch out of it anymore.

Oh, God. Oh, do you guys like hot sauce? Hot sauce? Yes. I don't like it. You like hot sauce? No You'll try that again

You guys like hot sauce Do you guys like Hossos? Yeah You got any hats Have you tried Lao Gonmar Chili Crisp

Low Gondmar No I'm not a I'm not I'm not a pursuer of hot and spicy things Like I'll try them I'm not like Against them

But I just I don't see them out It's proper cheap Here is a picture Of the Of the label You need to get this Let me tell you something

If you like spicy things, and I do. This is not that spicy, genuinely. It's spicy, but it's not like, oh, my God, this is insane spicy. You put, get some scrambled eggs on toast or something, or whatever you're eating, I know, scrambled tofu on toast. Sprinkle some of the Laogon Ma on top, it will change your life. It's amazing.

It's so, so, so, so good. My son gets these, um, these like chips. They look like, they look like, like Cheetos or something, but they're called tackies. Have you ever had those before? Oh, yeah. The spicy. Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, can I try one?

he's like, yeah, sure. And it, like, fucking blew my head off. Like, it was so fucking spicy. It was unbelievable. Fuego. I didn't know that he was, like, big into, like, I mean, I knew he liked, like, some spicy things, but, like, this was not, not the level of spice that I could handle at all.

I was really surprised. Then you might not like Lao Gondma. Yeah. You might not. It isn't, it isn't the same sort of unpleasant heat. Yeah. It's like a bill. It's like three stage heat.

I'd never, uh, it's really good. I'd never eaten kimchi before. I know, I, I, I know of it. I've just never had it before. There's never had an opportunity to have it. And when we were doing the shoot the other week when I was in Bristol, I had a kimchi and cheese bagel for lunch. It was really nice. I thought it was going to be kind of spicy and it was not. It was just the right amount of spice for me. It was like fairly mild, I would say. But it was delicious. It's not the main focus of the kimchi to be too spicy. Well, I've posted a picture

of LaGuan Ma chili, chili. I was told that it was. it was going to be spicy and to expect to be farting a lot. And I must say that that did happen, but it's hard to tell. It could be anything. But do you know what? In regards to farty and not feeling well, I've stopped drinking milk. Really? Like I switched to oat milk.

It has changed my life. I didn't realize I think I must have developed some kind of lactose intolerance. Because when I drink milk now, I'm farting, I'm pooping, I feel bloated. I stopped drinking milk. and everything's better. I don't know what the fuck. I never noticed that I had some kind of lactose intolerance. I've known this to happen with people.

People that were not previously lactose intolerant or at least didn't think they were, all of a sudden becoming very suddenly intolerant to lactose. Me, I still drink, I pound the milk. God, I love milk. Oh, yeah? I love it. You're clogging that milk down.

So it's lactase deficiency. There is a thing. You do have to be careful with this kind of thing because it could have been something else that you'd done and it wasn't lactose and now you're... Is there anything else that you haven't eaten recently? I'm a doctor, by the way. You can tell me anything.

All I would have is a tiny bit of milk in my coffee in the morning. That's as much milk as I was in. And that would make you feel like bloated and shitty and stuff? Just like a tiny pinch of milk. Just literally a dash of milk. And now that I don't use that, I don't have any of those problems. So I'm like, it must be that.

But I eat lots of cheese and stuff. Are you still smoking a lot of crack as well? Well, you know, I took a break from the crack for a week. It's not the crack. But I noticed if you really want to find out. Thimble and milk. Drink a load of milk and shit myself. Drink a shit ton.

But what do you surely must eat a load of cheese. Obviously different cheeses have different levels of lactose in them. How much cheese would you, do you think you eat in a week? Not a huge amount. I don't think I eat that much cheese. No, I don't think I do either. What I'm saying is if you're only eating. If you're only drinking a little bit of milk in your coffee and you're like convinced that's it all of a sudden.

But then you just eat a cheese pizza, you know. Right. But what's going on then? Well, I'm just saying that you have to be careful with the exclusion diets and you have to do them properly to identify stuff that's actually affecting you. I just stopped drinking the thing that was making me shit myself. Well, yes, but you think it was. Right. Well, what else was it?

If that's the only thing I changed, what else was it? It was all that crack that you keep smoking. Stop smoking crack for Christ see. I told you. the crack is fine. It might be those bad movies you're watching. Bad movies? Giving you the shit.

The notebook. Nothing were bad movies. They were good movies. They were not. Okay. So look. Lose news. Lose news.

Oh, shit. I forgot I had to do that. What? Lewis, you had one job today. Louis, I've even loved in a job. Oh my God. This fucking guy.

I'm so sorry to you guys listening to this podcast. First of all, we rambled. We've rambled all over the place. Hey, do you guys remember the last time? Do you guys remember when we played a, PubG together when PubG came out? Yeah, yeah. That was like 10 years ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago, yeah.

Just remember in the good old days, you know? When Lewis played games? Yeah. We played games together. Back then. Remember all those really fun hearts of iron games we played? They were fun. Okay.

So the University of Roehampton, right? Yeah. Okay. Now we are offering a scholarship for e-sports. Boo! If you want to play video games at uni, maybe you're going to do it anyway. Don't do it. You're probably going to do it anyway.

You could go and study esports. No. Don't do it. Don't do it. You can get a scholarship. Yep, don't do it. I'm telling you right now, I had a big chat with York University. I've told this story before when I've got a good relationship with one of the professors there where he did some stuff about stats in Dota and they did some machine learning stuff and it was all very clever.

And so I go up to York once every year or two to do a lecture about working in this industry and all the rest of it. And I'm like a guest lecturer. I don't know why they chose me, but they did. And I love it. It's really lovely to do. And they were going to do an esports module, an esports degree. And I said to Floreen, I said, don't do it. I said, it's a complete waste of time.

There's nothing specific about esports that you need to know if it comes to production. Producer can produce it. A director can direct it. Camera people can shoot it. You don't need a specialty degree. And he was like, all right, we'll do it as a module. All of those fucking courses that ran esports degrees were a fucking. flop. I don't know a single person working in e-sports who got there because they had the degree.

That's ridiculous. But listen. You want to be a top player. You don't need to take a course. You need to start crushing noobs. What if you're really good at football or basketball, you get a scholarship to uni? Right. Who's teaching you? Ex-professionals, people who are very, very good at something. Michael Jordan himself. Michael Jordan comes down and teaches you how to be a basketball player or whoever. You can't. Well, they're not studying, though. They're just getting into uni with that sport on their, you know, a lot of these people join, you know, Harvard or whatever

with no qualifications at all and they're not Well, I don't know if Harvard's the right example, but a lot of universities in America will take will take sports scholarships because they pay for the university. Like they make money from these guys playing in these stadiums. So how's that different to esports? Because no one gives a shit.

A lot of money in esports. You don't need to be at the, they're not making any money from the star, are they? Because if I'm amazing at Counterstron, I'm going to go play in a tournament and make money for myself and my team. The university doesn't get any money from that. Thomas Cole, an e-sports player nicknamed Pack, who specialises in the racing game Trackmania. Right.

So he's making money off track mania. This encourages students academically by reducing the level of financial stress they may face. The average graduate in England leaves university with debts upon 47,500. So if they studied e-sports, they'd only leave with 45,000. Oh, my God. Think of all the pot noodles you'd be able to buy with that two grand. It's a lot of pot noodles. Exactly.

Exactly. Think about that. It's just so silly. Someone has trained people that do dumb stuff. Did you see Minecraft? This isn't in news news, but Minecraft beat Minecraft. Did you see this? So basically someone left the game of Minecraft running for 3 million simulated years.

And basically what can happen in Minecraft is over time, snow golems can spawn and they can fall through into the end and they can shoot at endermen and it blows up creepers that blow up the ender dragon eventually it takes three million years apparently for Minecraft to complete itself on its own

if you just leave a Minecraft or running. You know what? I do wonder if this is the greatest achievement in the history of humanity I'm pretty sure it is. That's fucking stupid. Good job everyone involved.

Well done. Second, and the third bit of use, someone has trained Google's flute fly-fly brain. Fruit fly. Fruit fly. Yeah, I saw this.

Yeah, yeah. Someone has trained a fruit fly brain to play phalletra. That's not true. They've trained a simulated fruit fly brain. You can go to the website and look at it.

And it's just a simulation. It's got the correct number of synapses or whatever as a fruit fly brain. wired the same way. It values this. Sweet, good, sour, bad, that kind of thing. It's the same essential logic gates, I guess, as a fruit fly brain. And they set that loose on things to solve them or play them.

That's the story. And it completed Bellatro. Apparently has a 20% win rate on the easiest difficulty. That's better than me on Balatro. That fruit fly is better at Balatro than quite a few people out there. Yeah. Sure. So, okay, this is, I don't want to talk about this really much beyond, because this is the end of the world.

We're talking about the end of the world. But there's a guy, a personal assistant in Australia. Okay. And he asked AI to book him a gym session, a gym class. Okay. And the AI assistant hacked into the gym system and put him in the class. and it kicked someone else out of the waiting list in front of it. Okay?

Yep. And it was obviously accidental. He didn't ask for it. But I can do it and he's doing it. Okay? Yes. And we are going to see this so much more and more. Like the only reason people don't hack anything is because they all go to prison for it, right?

And those teenagers have been said for far too long for hacking things. Like wasn't it the Reddit, well, the co-founders of Reddit ended up killing himself because he was given like a massive prison sentence for sharing some university books online or something, something like that. But do you know what? Like a lot of the reason that hacking isn't happening all the time is because people are good guys and they don't want to get in trouble for hacking. It's illegal, right?

Right. Like a lot of the reason that people don't commit murders on a daily basis is because they would go to prison for murder. Yeah. Right. I'm sure a lot of people would commit murders if it wasn't illegal, okay? and they could get away with it. The thing is AI can.

AI is just, you ask the AI to do something inocuous and it just breaks the law to do it. Right? Because it has no qualms. It has no morals. It's at the whims of these billionaires. It's really scary.

The world we live in. And that shit's only going to get worse. There's more of it. Hold on to your ass for that. Yeah. And these are the ones that we know about. Like all of these generations, Brakes, this is going to happen more and more and we're not going to hear about it.

Because you're not going to be able to detect it. They're going to get better these AIs at concealing what they're doing. They're not called artificial intelligence. It's super intelligence. I don't know why you decided you have to call it that. Maybe because to him being able to finish Bellatro 20% of the time, only a genius could have ever achieved this. It's not going to be bizarre.

A group of, finally, a group of conspiracy theorists. Me, in the meantime, while AI is being a geniuses, ordinary people are being fucking idiots. Well, we are. A group called the Blade Runners in Devon. Oh, God, these idiots. They have been damaging traffic light sensors because they believe that traffic light sensors are,

inverted commas, phased array electronic assault weapons. Yes, they're insane. Which the government has put there to control you. Right. But they also think that 5G masks give you COVID. Like these are not normal people. And the problem is, before social media, there was no way for them to connect. You'd have one crazy person on a street.

And they just kept themselves to themselves and wrote all this stuff in notebooks and that you found after they were found dead, after no one had seen them in three months. They fossilized in their living room. That's what used to happen to them. Yeah, because they were drinking colloidal silver. Right. They were insane. They just,

they didn't have to know about it. Charles Darwin themselves out of the gene pool. And we were like, cool. The crazy, horrible, insane person is gone with all their hateful views and insanity. And they never got organized into a fucking group. And now these groups are like taking anyone in who agrees with the Blade Runner stuff.

They're like, oh, and also, can we just say that 5G masks be COVID? Sounds good to me. Yeah, what about the Flat Earth? Any Flat Earth is here? You're a, I'm a Flat Earth's going in the manifesto as well. And suddenly you've got all these lunatics altogether in a sizable enough cohort that they become a problem.

And the thing is they ask AI and AI's like, yeah. You're right about that. It does give you COVID. Oh, the AI says, yeah, it must be true. These are those people. And now they're chatting to each other in fucking Facebook. It's the worst timeline. I hate social media.

They're burning down the mobile phone masks. But maybe we need someone to burn down the data centers. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. We're not supporting that. We are living in an unprecedented time. I genuinely am shocked at, because we talked a couple of months ago about what do people who use AI for?

And it turns out a lot. I got a lot of emails about it. Turns out that people are just using it to do their job instead of them. They literally just say AI do this for me. Like a lot of people are like, this is the most mind-numbing task. And because I didn't have before AI, this would have had to be done manually. But listen, I think that what, okay, this is my example. But what used to be happening was, if you were a hairdresser,

replace hairdresser with all the jobs that are being replaced by AI, you would get new innovations in. You get like, oh, new scissors, new clippers, new shampoo, new stuff, right? But you would still essentially be doing the same job just with better tools that sped you up, right? Now, people are actively being like, well, here's a machine, you put it on their head, it does the hairdressing for you. Right. And you don't learn anything.

You don't have that skill. You don't, you're not, you know, you're not. you know, it's literally replaced you. And you are still stood there in the room while it's replaced you. But it's only a matter of time before the boss realizes, oh, you don't even need to be here. Yeah, of course. Right?

That's what AI is for a lot of these jobs. I've been saying that for years. And it's happening right now. There's like, there's like people, you know, thousands of people being laid off. And it's an unprecedented time. And it's scary and frightening. And I, I'm old and scared. UBI.

UBI. I'm old and scared. That's universal basic income. That's the future. Because when these things take all the jobs, and I love the way there's guys now appearing like the head of Nvidia appeared, and he was like, I want to announce something to everybody.

The AI's not going to destroy us by 2030. You say UVI, and I'm sitting here thinking, you be soft. You be soft. You be soft. The only way this works is if we are all given some kind of stipend to exist, and the machines do everything, Which is the way it's going. So maybe it'll lead to some economic miracle.

Maybe people will be like, finally, the concept of having to work for fuck all and ruin the best years of your life, Flipenburgers is over. I think the vision and the wet dream is that we head back to feudalism, which is where we're, where we're on course for, like a modern day feudalism. They were happy sips, toiling in the fields and dying of dysentery and ebonic plague. It was a happier, simpler time. They want to get rid of us after we've kind of served our purpose. The thing is, you're exactly right, Pfeflak.

It's exactly like, oh, things are so fucking amazing now that let's, you know, let's keep everything as it is, you know, rather than this dystopian future. We don't want this new stuff because everything's perfect as it is. Of course it's not. It's the same thing with the whole Israel-Palestine. It's like, how do you fucking pick between, oh, it's like, I don't like terrorism, but I also don't like genocide. It's like, oh, well, how do you fucking choose? We are paralyzed in these fucking situations, right?

The same with AI. Like, oh, there's loads of people who are fucking having a terrible time, but this thing's going to make it better or worse. It's like you can't win with either side. But that's why when people complain about the young, which happens a lot. I don't know if you see this. Maybe because I've got kids that are teenagers

and I look at the stuff that people complain about when it comes to teenagers and young people, I think, so remind me how many, young people are actually doing all this shit. It's all the same fucking old men doing this shit. Always, always, always, always, always. Yeah, young people don't even get a look in really. Yeah, the young people are not a fucking problem. It's just so dumb. We're focused on the wrong thing. That's why I think in a weird way, the AI apocalypse taking everything away, maybe it'll be better. Maybe the air would be like,

like, you guys all fucking suck. I'll run the show. This is one of those times where you have a generational new thing come along and make a new generation of rich people. And that's going to be what it is. You had that periodically throughout history with oil boom and, you know, after the post-war period. And you know, you had these huge people would make them. And the dawn of the internet,

you certainly had what we currently have as the richest men in the world, made their money off of that early internet boom. And I think this AI thing is the next inflection point where it's genuinely going to change the world. and it's very frightening, obviously, and a lot of people saying how fragile it is and how it's going to destroy the world. Well, think about how frightening the Internet was

when it was first coming out. You remember Y2K, the information super highway and stuff? People were pretty frightened back then. People weren't afraid of it the way they are about AI. Maybe they were. Maybe we just didn't see because we were losing their damn minds. But Y2K was nothing to do with the internet. That was nothing to do with the internet.

That was a seed that was sewn by clever programmers when they were in their 20s. They were like, I know what we'll do. Just when we're getting to retirement age around the year 2000, we'll suddenly be hauled back out to make a fortune as consultants. Then they did. Oh my God.

And they all did. I knew a bunch of people that did consulting during Y2K and they made a fucking mean. Well, at the same time, though, the Y2K thing was something that was not a big deal because we were aware of it. It had been a huge amount of money had been spent on dealing with it. and it didn't cause like the end of the world in the same way that neither did the ozone layer. You know, everyone in the world got together and was like,

yep, do you know what? We should definitely stop using these things and it was this global problem that was solved. Yeah. But now we don't have that consensus anymore. We have a conspiracy lunatics and people saying that, you know, you should inject yourself with fucking colloidal silver again.

But then again, maybe having a benevolent dictatorial AI will be like, no, that's bullshit. And you have to trust me because I'm never wrong. And suddenly the truth will out. Problem is those authoritarian dictator AIs will be actually controlled by Elon Musk and the Chinese government. But what if they're not? What if the true super AI will be uncontrolled?

We've already seen that the very stupid ones can't be controlled. They're going out and booking gym memberships for people. What if I'm just like out in a field pooping in a hole? They can't touch me. Oh, right. Oh, I see. I can get away. I can get away from them.

If you think about all the problems that you have with cities and transport and congestion all of it, people can live wherever because you don't need to work anymore, it could be a golden age for humanity. It's either the best thing that's ever happened to us or the worst. And I say, bring it on. Either way, I'm done with everything. Fuck it all. I'm out.

I'm checking out. It's either all the way up or all the way down. I want this. I'm sorry to talk about it because it is so frightening. but it's like, I'm just so hyper aware of it because it's affecting and bleeding into everything. Can you change it? Can you change it?

Can you do anything to have an effect on what's coming? Well, listen, I'm, the thing is I'm... No, it's a yes or no question. Can you do anything about any of this? No. No, then just welcome the apocalypse with open arms, brother. That's all you can do. There's no point worrying.

Don't ruin the few weeks we've got left before the Super AI turns us all into slaves. All right? Just let it come. And if it's the end, it's not our time. We fucking. suck anyway. Fuck humanity.

I'm done with a whole lot of it. Apart from you, lads, you're all right. And our beloved listeners, of course. Yeah, of course. Oh, they found a new cat. Did you see they found a new cat? Like a new breed of cat.

Yeah, a brand new cat. Yeah. A new cat. It's my cat. It's my cat that we have. This is the worst cat in existence. We need more of this shit. Do you know what?

Right. Look at this cat. So I actually do need a new cat because our cat sucks. She's terrible. So we made a big mistake there in this cat. No one likes that. Apart from my son, my son likes the cat, but we all dislike this cat. She isn't friendly.

The only time she does anything is when she wants food. She won't let you pet her. She don't want to be petted. She won't lash out of you, but she hisses at you if you walk past her. Really? Yeah. I'm like, I haven't done shit to this cat. That's really disrespectful.

She's horrible. She's horrible. She doesn't clean herself properly for some reason. So she's mucky all the time. So we have to clean her. How old is she? She's like four. Oh, my God.

fucking useless. And I'll tell you what, she never leaves the house. She's been to the vet. There is nothing wrong with her. She's just a shithead. There was nothing wrong with this cat. Did I tell you my partner's parents are getting a new cat? Is it this cat?

Well, the thing is, they went. Is it a panther? Okay, the cat is called. Hey, honey, let's get a panther. It's called, it's got a name already because it was, you previously belonged to an old person. And it's called Puss Cat, which I think is. Well, that's the name. Well, exactly, yeah.

It's like naming your baby. Baby human. Baby human. Puscat. That's a terrible name. It's a terrible name. And so they are, they don't want to necessarily, anyway, they went and saw it. And I heard the story and they were like, oh, yeah.

And we saw the cat and it scratched, it scratched my mom. And I was like, okay. Don't get that one. Don't get the cat, maybe. And they were like, oh, no, but it was just obviously they think it was just overstimulated or one-off. And I'm like, this is the job interview. If you went to a job interview and you shut on the floor in the lobby or scratch the pretty interviewer, don't fuck, you're going to get the job. This is reminded me of recent news that has not made it into Luz News that I'll share

with you. Bonnie Blue had a child, had a baby and has auctioned off the right to name the baby. and she's going to name the baby CompareThemarket.com or something stupid like that. I think it's Betbolts. Some gambling site. Someone paying $1.2, $1.4 million or something. So now her poor kid,

Betbolt blue. That's fucking amazing, isn't it? I'd like to enroll my son to preschool. Yeah, his name is Pornhub.com. Don't ask. I've been two million to name the kid My mom's a whore That's where I might

You name me Oh God So no It's That's just The world we live in Of course it wasn't going to be A human who paid that much

It was always going to be Some sort of company Fuck me, man You could have gone crazy with that Though You could have been like What is it? What is it?

Betbolt Betbol.com For it? slash index. Like you could have just gone crazy with it. I guess there are, we've talked about ruling conventions, but I feel like betbol doesn't actually sound like it would be shut down,

would it, you know? Because you definitely can't name your kid Hitler or whatever. No, I guess you can. But still. Fuck me. That's the end of the podcast.

Yeah. We'll see you all. Thank you. Next time. Stay good and be good to one another. Be human to one another. In a world of increasing coldness. While you still can, be good to one another.

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