Triforce! - Get me pictures of Sips! | Triforce #363

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

Triforce! Episode 363! We're fighting seagulls, dealing with a £2 Andy Burnham Britain and sharing some top street party and vacation spots. Pyrion is taking on a listeners challenge to "try opera" b...y going to see the Gilbert and Sullivan classic Iolanthe before heading off to Shanghai so we're brushing up on our interview techniques! Exclusive $35-off Carver Mat, Aspen, and Walden frames at https://on.auraframes.com/TRIFORCE. Promo Code TRIFORCE Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Pickax. Hello everyone, welcome back to the TriForce podcast, joined today by Sips, who is currently in Bristol. Yes, I'm out of my comfort zone. Oh no. I've had to talk to like two or three people this morning already. It's in... Pflax, who is still in his, I assume, still cooling down office. Hello!
Starting point is 00:00:35 I am in my office. It's not that hot here at the moment. Mrs. F gets back from holiday, her and the youngest one away for a few days. Oh. What have you done on your own all this time? We've just chilled. I haven't been on my own.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I've had my oldest with me. So we've just chilled. We've had a nice chill time. We had some little rituals. So rather than go out and buy... You summoned a demon. No, sadly not. No, that fell through.
Starting point is 00:01:01 You sacrificed small woodland critters together. We went shooting. You choked out a penceagram. Got the pettogram out as soon as the door closed. You're like, bye, love, bye. Door closed, right, get the chalk. Get the candles. We only manage to summon a lemur, not even an em.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's, that's, that's, amateur hour. So we went out and bought dinner every day. We didn't buy, like, a big shop. We were like, let's just mosey out when we feel like it. We'll go down to the shop and we'll see what we fancy and, you know, because we're changeable. So, yeah, we have like a microwave meal. Which microwave meals? No, we did not have microwave meals.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Do you have any cereal? Any cereal for a dinner? No, never. No. No, okay. We went out to Forbidden Planet a couple of days ago, which was great. Right. Our favorite shop and bought a few things there.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And I tried to get the new Magic the Gathering set, which is Star Trek themed. No. Not out till November. So I made a fool of myself asking about it. I managed to find some comics that had been hard to come by. That's their fault for advertising it too soon. Well, I know. You're meant to build hype.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Did you get hit with a huge, actually, by the clerk at the store? No, but it was worse. he wants to he wants to new Star Trek I'll just I'll beam that here from November shall I have
Starting point is 00:02:18 what happened they're not normally like that no no no they're fine I mean so the forbidden planet as well
Starting point is 00:02:26 they have so many tourists and like non-nerds in there that wander in because it's a big store in central London that they kind of
Starting point is 00:02:33 just have to be a bit more like a normal store but the lady behind the counter I asked about it and she gave me a sort of glance
Starting point is 00:02:39 and then she was like tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap yeah I know I was like, oh, okay, don't worry about it. And then she started, she was like, no, wait. And I was like, oh, she's giving me hope that maybe they've got like an advanced preview copy.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And if I, you know, if I ask nicely, I can get that. But she was like, tap, tap, tap, tap. Yeah, August, no, November the, tap, tap, tap, tap. So it'll be in on the front. And I was like, I didn't really need this extra info. I just needed to know November. And that's like, well, that's a million miles away. But instead, now I know the exact day and the likely time they'll be unpacking and everything.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I was like, I'm not going to remember any of that, sadly. So it felt like she kept me there and gave me more information than I wanted to humiliate me further, which was fine. I see. I mean, I understand her move completely. It was a stupid thing to do. I was holding up the line. There's people behind me trying to buy their Jujitsu Kaysen comics. And instead they got some idiot asking about something that's not out six months.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You probably ruined their whole day. Yeah, ruin the whole day. Yeah. I'm just going to restart my, I'm just going to restart my mic because I think it's using the wrong mic. It sounds fine. It sounds perfect. I know. I don't know it's fine on Discord, but not on my audacity.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay. Oh. All right. Lewis is having some technical problems today, but Sips and I, professional as ever, continue. We need that elevator music with like the, you know, like on TV, you know, on the Simpsons when the bear attacks the audience and they have that. Please stand by. We're professionals, by the way, chat. We're professionals.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We know what we're doing. It's because we've been doing this for so long. It's true. It's true. I've got to go see. I've got a lot coming up in the next few weeks. I'm going to go pick up Mrs. F and my. youngest from the airport today, but they're bloody going a bloody stand stead is where they came in
Starting point is 00:04:15 an hour and out. So it's like an hour and a half, maybe two hour drive to get there. It's like two hours. If you look at it, it's not that far. Yeah. But it's the other side of London, which means going around the M25 or going through London. And I don't really want to do either, but there's no option. And then I'm going to get back as well. So that's not going to be much fun. And then on Saturday, I'm going to go see the Odyssey, tried to get an IMAX ticket. Every single IMAX seat in London is gone for the next three weeks. It's impossible. I know. It just shows that Andy Burnham is not the answer. Like he's been in, he's been in for a couple of days now. And there's no IMAX showings available for The Odyssey. And it takes two hours to get Stansett Airport. Sort it out, mate. Like,
Starting point is 00:04:59 what's going on? I know. Come on, Andy. You've had 48 hours, mate. Sort out specifically these things just for me. I was like, what's going on? I'm voting someone else next time. It's ridiculous. So I saw a couple of things. First of all, I wanted to look up, I've no idea what Andy Burnham sounds like. Imagine, uh, imagine Kermit the Frog, but he looks like Beaker. I don't think Andy Burnham sounds like, uh, Kermit the Frog. No, I don't, I don't know if you, I'd never heard him speak before either. Exactly. I'm assuming he sounds like Kermit the Frog. And I do think that like if you were to make a, uh, a Muppet version of him, it wouldn't be difficult because he already kind of looks like one of, like a cast of the Muppet show, like in
Starting point is 00:05:36 No, he's like the first northern prime minister we've had in, I don't know how long it is. Probably Thatcher was from up north. She was from Grantham, right? Was she? Yeah, she was a northerner. But I don't know. I think she was from Grantham anyway, but she wasn't at Southern. I'll look her up.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Margaret. God, I haven't had to Google Margaret Thatcher. Here he goes. Margaret Thatcher, she was born in Grantham in Lincolnshire. That's where she was born. So Andy Burnham was like, default northern bloke. He doesn't quite sound like that. But that's, if I ever had to do Andy Burnham,
Starting point is 00:06:08 I was going to do default northern gruff. It's really not. It sounds like he's wearing a flat cap. Okay, yeah. He doesn't quite sound like that, but we've put bus fares to two quid. That's work in men's prices for bus. But I saw today,
Starting point is 00:06:20 Google, I looked him up on YouTube to find him talking. He doesn't sound anything like that. And there were already podcasts that Daily Express have put out saying, disastrous 48 hours from Burnham. I'm like, it's been 48 hours. Yeah. And it's a disaster already, apparently. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's a bit like fiddling while Rome burns, isn't it? Two pound bus fares. And then they had a newspaper article with some guy saying, well, it's all for a while putting two pound on bus fare. But how does that help me as a driver? Give him a bit of time. Maybe you'll come up with some. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:06:56 My Mercedes isn't going to drive itself. We'll put it that way. Sounds like Morris saying, oh, my Mercedes won't drive itself. Exactly Yeah, that's what I imagine he sounds like He sounds like Morrissey Singing Like Morrisello
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's Andy Burnham To pop for spares Uh-huh You know It's stuff in the right direction Yeah You do all sorts of stuff like that Pubs are now
Starting point is 00:07:24 20% Less business rates or something That was why happened this morning Yeah and music venues As well Not big music venues Just like normal music venues Excellent
Starting point is 00:07:33 This is good Because those things were seriously struggling. Yeah. They want to try to revive things that are like good for the community, and they're going to pay for it by taxing things that are not good for the community, like vape shops. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So his thing, his thing, I think, is to make everywhere like Manchester. Manchesterism. Nice. That's his idea. And general,
Starting point is 00:07:54 I think it's going to be great. I'm sure it's, I'm sure, like all, we're all full of hope here in the UK, as always. So why else have you done? I went out last night. I've got to tell you about this before I forget.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh, where'd you go? Did you? I went out and had a lovely... Went out for dinner? Went out for dinner in fur, which is a lovely Vietnamese soup place. Wait, wait, this is in Bristol? Fu in Bristol. Oh, the fur place, yeah, yeah. Is that where we're going to go tonight? He's went last night. You don't want to go again. Well, I'll tell you why you might not want to go sips tonight with me.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Do you have a crippling diarrhea now? He furred everywhere. No, I feel great. Oh, good. Well, I was... I had a nice, I had a lovely, had a lovely drink. It was outside, me and some friends, and we were having a nice chat. And then there was, I got my noodle soup delivered, and I was cracking away on it, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:45 I was in a nice time. Yeah. And then there was this big, there was a big, there was a big, sort of big flash and a big plop. Seagull poop. And a seagull had pooped right in the middle. Oh, that's so gross. It was like a bull's eye. And it was this big, it sort of splashed on me.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It splashed on my partner's clothes. It splashed on like the table. It's, it's, it's, it was like a fucking bombing run. Oh my God. And I was just like shell-shock. Like a damn buster. Because I'd eaten like, I'd had a, I'd eat in like, I'd say like a half of it. That's, that's good going.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Oh, that's pretty good. And that's, do you know what? I wasn't, I wasn't even that upset. I was like, do you know what? I kind of had enough of this now anyway. So the fact that I was covered in shit and the rest of it was all. in Edible and everyone was covered in shit was tempered by the fact that I was quite satiated and pissed.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. I had a few sides as well. So I was actually fairly, um, I was very, I was very chill about the whole thing. My 10 year old daughter who was not pissed at the park, she went to the park with her school, like the last week of school, the school took them like to this, this big park kind of near where we live, like, like not right next to where we live, but close enough. I mean, everywhere's close enough in Jersey. Her and her friends sit down to start eating their packed lunches,
Starting point is 00:10:09 and my daughter pulls out a sandwich and then, gone. A seagull swoop down, took her jam sandwich, and also pecked her on the thumb. The dad swept in. Yeah. Oh. Peked her on the thumb, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Pect her? Peked her. It scratched at it. And I'm crazy for arming myself against these animals. I'm telling you. Oh, yeah. So she was pecked by a seagull. So she was on watch because they can, they're known to carry some pretty nasty shit like E. coli and some other stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So we had to make sure that she wasn't falling ill. But all of her teachers did like an antiseptic washout spray and everything on her thumb. And like it's only like a little tiny scratch. But the thing is, oh, in Jersey there's so many seagulls anyway. So you're kind of like used to shielding your food and being monitoring. of them, you know, if they're swarming around or whatever. But this one just like kind of came out of nowhere, just took the whole sandwich. So they do keep an eye out.
Starting point is 00:11:12 They're always watching. They are. For a specific color as well. Yeah. They can tell like what was in the sandwich? And they've all just had babies as well. If you hear seagulls like going crazy around this time of year fighting and stuff, it's because they've all just had babies and they just go.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They're normally insane, but the levels of insanity grow like 10 times. It's like a 10-15 times multiplier on the insane. Well, it's because every time they go home, they just hear those babies crying, and it drives them absolutely fucking insane. It's the competition. And me, too. Only the meanest seagulls survive. I think we live in like a breeding ground.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We bread the meaner and mean them. Very often there's like baby seagulls trapped in like our neighbor's backyards or sometimes in our backyard. And you can't do anything about it. Like even if you phone the animal shelter and say, yeah, there's a seagull that is not able to fly yet stuck in my backyard. They just say, well, we can't touch them, but they're protected. But it's the size of like a full-grown seagull.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I know. It's not like a little cute chick. It's a massive fucking seagull, but it's just brown instead of white. Can you eat them? Apparently, apparently they're all feathers. Like the bird part, there's like no meat. They just, they look big. They like fluff up.
Starting point is 00:12:27 But like they're, apparently they're quite gangly things like underneath all the plumage. Okay. Well, that's good to know. The thing is that I felt about it was I felt like this kind of idea of, I'd been tempting fate eating outside for a long time and having this not happen to me, right, in a sense. And so it was inevitable.
Starting point is 00:12:45 It's like, you know, if you live long enough, you know, it happens. It's like you, it's. So I kind of, again, I felt like it was a calmic thing. Like it was inevitable that at some point this would happen to me. This is really traumatized you. You've thought about it a great deal. At least it didn't like shit all over your tuxedo suit, though. Like, and you'd eaten already a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's true. On your way. On your way to pick up an award for being a fabulous dude. Yes. Exactly. I mean, it was a bad time, right? And upsetting. But at the same time, and stressful, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm tempered, again, by the reality and me accepting that, you know, maybe things just are going to get worse from now. And maybe I'll just have more aches and pains, less hair, be less virile. my eyesight. I've noticed like, I'm starting to like, I was noticed I was trying to read something and it was and I was like, oh, I have to, this is too close. I've not felt that before where I have to, and I've realized I was doing that old man thing where I was like squinting at something like looking at it further and further away because the writing's too small for me to read it close to
Starting point is 00:13:51 my face. But when it's further away, I can't read it. That's because you need reading glass. I had an eye test like six years ago and they told me I had perfect pilot vision and but I'm, I'm not so sure now because all these things that you just described are very familiar to me. You need reading glasses, both of you. I'm not getting. I'm just, here's what I do. I'm not going I've now set the default zoom on my browser to 115. I think it's 115. All the text is bigger. It makes a big difference. It helps. I know exactly what's going to happen if I get reading glasses. The minute I put them on in my mind, all I'm going to hear is Egghead loves his bookie book. And it's going to send me into a tailspin.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Where, I mean, the same, like, I'm shrimping over my, because I still haven't set up my computer in my, shrimping is where, yeah, you're like kind of shrimp shaped when you're at your computer. Yes, I have heard that before, yes, you're right. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like that in the lounge at the moment on this laptop, and my partner is like, why have you not set up your computer? I wonder if they'll use the term cockle farming for anything related to computers at some point. Cockle farming. You're hoping that that will be, cockle farming. What's the cockle?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Cuckle. Or cuckold farming. Cockles. You know, like those little things that appear on the beach. Yeah, but you're saying it like cuckles. Cockles and muscle. No, but you're saying it like cuckle. You've got to say cockle.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Cockle. It sounds like you're saying cockle. No, but it sounds like you're saying cuckold. Right. I'm not saying that. Right, but it sounds like it because you're saying cuckold. I'm sure there's plenty of cockholes and cuckholes on the internet tips. But cockles are not sure that's going to catch on.
Starting point is 00:15:30 In the same way that they don't have anything identifying about them. They're like a shit limpid or whatever, you know, whereas a shrimp has a very distinct shape. What an insult. You're nothing but a shit limp at you. Oh, all that. Comey to the quick, how dare you? Get back on the bottom of the boat.
Starting point is 00:15:52 So what else you guys have up to anything this week? Anything fun? Had the street party. We had our street party because of the World Cup final was on Sunday. And we closed the whole street and put it bunting up and watched the, we were going to watch the World Cup Final of England made it. That obviously we didn't. So we just a couple of people watched it on their phones.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Weeled the barbecue out front. My neighbors did the same. Someone did a massive biryani, which was great. Someone did a huge chili. And we all just drank and all the cars, everybody cleared all their cars out of the road so that kids could just play all up and down the road. That's nice. It was great.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It was really, really lovely. Yeah. And yeah, we had a lot of fun. Chatted to a bunch of new people that have moved in that haven't had a chance to chat to, and they're all really lovely. So, yeah, we had a really nice Sunday that was and quite hungover on Monday because there was a lot of drinking. But yeah, it was really good, really, really good. We had an annual, they do an annual street party in like the main town of Jersey that we went to last weekend as well,
Starting point is 00:16:52 Saturday and Sunday. And they close off a big part of town and there's like little fair rides. And basically it just sounds like way better than yours. And it's put on by like it's put on by it. It's official. We just did it ourselves. The constable of the town was walking around with this huge flavor of Flav necklace and everything.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It was awesome. But we went to this place to get some pizza. And a real lively bunch of lads listening to, oh my God, like every song you can imagine not techno in techno, it was insane. Like they were dancing and going crazy. It was like Evita, but like a techno version of it. Like all these songs that you would never associate with techno turned into techno songs. And these guys were just going crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:42 They loved it. Like they were dancing. They knew all the time. And then some people were chanting England. Like it was like where it fit and stuff. It was crazy. It was really fun. Nice.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah. It was nice. I like stuff like that. Yeah, we went to my partner's parents' 70th birthday party that they had at their house, which was nice. And we went over there, and I was quite far away. So we stayed over a little Airbnb. It was nice.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We went to the barbecue. There was like barbecue. My partner's brother did it all. And he's capable. He's a capable man. Right. Very, you know, reliable on the barbecue. But I will say, like, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:26 think it got out of control at some point, or he was distracted by chatting to people because there was so much of it. It was a lot of good stuff, but a lot of it was black. Right. Like real, real charred stuff. Don't worry, the seagulls will eat it. And I don't know even if they will. Yeah, they will.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Do you mean? And I sort of have to be way worse. Yeah, you're done. And so, no, it was, it was a good time generally. It was nice day. It was nice to talk to lots of random different people from. sort of friends of the earth and random different people with different walks of life. Yeah, I think similar to you, P-Flax, like, lots of just nice people.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Did your brother have one of those aprons where it had like a pair of ladies knockers on it? The tithies on it? Yeah, I didn't want to say tithes, but yeah, titties. Titties. I always feel a slight hint of sadness after the party because I feel like we're not going to do this again for years. Yeah, but don't be sad. it's over and be happy that it happened. I know, but it's like a vision
Starting point is 00:19:29 of what it could be like. It's a vision. You'd get bored of them if there was on every day. You'd be like you're off. Fuck a mother street party. Fuck, same. I'm not saying, not necessarily a full party. But like, it was nice to have that sense of community and the kids are playing in the road.
Starting point is 00:19:46 There's not cars everywhere. And everybody was generous with their time. And it was just felt like, I mean, I've lived on the same road of some of these people for four years, five years and never spoken. them. Like, they've been here that. We've been here for 20-odd years. The new people have come in. You don't go, you don't all go down as a street and sort of introduce yourself. You guys didn't, you didn't, you didn't bake some Zidi for them, like to welcome
Starting point is 00:20:08 them to the neighborhood? Oh, I got some, uh, fake Ziti. My wife just made. We've got, we've got freaking tons of this stuff. You want some? Huh? You just moved in. You got to like to do. God bless. Hey, you need anything. Anybody fuck with you. You talk to me. Forget about So I feel like there is this You're right P-Flax It's lovely, it's summery It's like just the right temperature
Starting point is 00:20:34 Everyone's out there having a nice time It doesn't happen enough here You know I was saying to my partner yesterday Like you know This is the high You know lovely high summer season And it's gonna be really sad when it's over
Starting point is 00:20:49 You know And inevitably Everyone's just huddling into the warmth For the next six months Yeah It's fine when it's like 25, but I think the whole tone of the thing would have been different if it was like 45 degrees. We'd be complaining.
Starting point is 00:21:01 They'd be on the brink of Viva la Revolution at that point. Like, people would just be insanely hot and disgruntled. You know what I mean? Yeah, there was a lot of work that went into even a little friend, you know, and family party. I think there were like 20 people there and we were putting up like these little pavilions, what they called the little plastic pagodas, whatever they are, little things. We put them up, put a couple of them up. That was a real pain in the ass.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Right. And then, yeah, to take them down again afterwards. And will the glass to pick up glasses? Well, you're not supposed to wreck them in your ass. Clean them. That's maybe, maybe you're doing it wrong. Yeah. You know, and everything, like, you know, picking up coals and there's not, there's no salad.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So we have to go and get that from Tesco. And then as soon as you get back, you're like, oh, well, there's no this. Right. And someone doesn't drink Coke Zero. So you have to go and get classic Coke. Do you know, it's like, oh, you know, this sort of stuff. Classic Coke. Gosh, this is such a chore.
Starting point is 00:22:01 People were drinking classic Coke. Like animals. Like animals. Yeah. I did, well, I did, we did a little impromptu Coke classic versus Coke zero tests and they could tell the difference to be honest. It was quite impressive. That is impressive.
Starting point is 00:22:16 So they obviously know their Coke and they know what they like. Is that just the Coke? Is that just the Coke? Is that just the Coke challenge? It's not because the Coke and Pepsi challenge obviously is Coke versus Pepsi, but this is just Coke versus Coke zero. Or was there a Diet Coke? I would even, even I would be able to taste the difference between Coke and Diet Coke, and I don't even drink a lot of Coke. I can't tell the difference between Coke and Diet Coke.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It's impossible not to. They just taste completely different. Yeah. One tastes like shit and the other is Coca-Cola. Yeah, that's why I always drink Diet Coke. I don't drink that much. I don't drink soda either. It's like rocket fuel for me.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I'm just shit and like nonstop if I drink soda now. I'm a water guy. I drink a lot of water during the day. I'm a water guy. More of a tea man myself. Just drink a lot of tea. What's your go-to tea right now? Yorkshire tea.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I just have some Yorkshire tea with a splash of milk. And I have probably about eight a day. Well, we've got plenty of that. If you had a biscuit brew, we got that in the office. No, I went to that little coffee place around the corner when I got here. Spicer and Coal and I got a... Oh, it's overpriced. A cappuccino.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, it was a little overpriced. How much was it? The capuchino. I was like £3.50? I want to say... Okay, that's fine. Is that the place just around from the office? It's like Spicer and Coal, I think.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's the one, yeah, the very one. It's a bit fancy. It's quite a hip place, isn't it? It's got a lot of hipster dufaces in it. Yeah, a lot of hips. Like you. Flat white and an orange juice with ice. I fit right in.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Their lemon drizzle cake is quite nice. Their bagels are nice. It is. I noticed that they had quite a nice selection of pastries, but I didn't indulge. I just got a coffee and left. Well, you know, have you tried sandwich, sandwich, sandwich, sandwich, sandwich, which is just up the road. No, that's too much sandwich for me.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I just want one sandwich. Well, it's a lot of sandwich. It is a lot of sandwich. It is a lot of sandwich. It is a lot of sandwich. It is enormous. They're ridiculous. But it's kind of their whole thing.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Okay. But there's also a bagel, bagel, bagel, which is just down there. And that's also really good. They are actually surprisingly good bagels. Yeah. You get a really nice Ruben from there. It's an excellent bagel. I haven't had a Rubin in years.
Starting point is 00:24:35 But to be fair, I think the last time I had a Rubin was when I was actively eating meat. Yeah, yeah. It's really good. But you could get an equivalent, I'm sure. Yeah. I like pies. I know that sounds weird, but I like like Parmister. Yeah, they're so good, those pies.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I like the little like takeaway boxes they do. You get like a pie and some like some mushy peas and like a couple of other, some other gubbins. It's nice. It's really a nice lunch today. You've got to go to the market. What's it? St.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Nick's the St. Nick's market. That's the one. Yeah. He's cheon-in-knit. They got a pie minister there. You get all kinds of stuff there. I mean, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:12 That's what you want in mid-summer. The heat of summer. We'll go and get a pie together. Yeah, that'd be really nice. The heat of summer. It's not even that hot today. It's nice than they're going to eat. It's just what you want.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Because Andy Burnham's come in to government. I'm going to allow the temperature for working people, but we're going to jack the temperature up for those rich bastards. We're going to reduce custard pies to two pounds. Get them out. We want our country back. Pies are working. We want our country back. You are no good.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, those guys. I think this is obviously a, you know, a good direction. We should make more things cost two pounds. Two pounds. Cost of housing now, two pound. Two pounds. Oh, my God. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:25:56 If you're worth more than two pounds, we're going to tax you 100%. If you've got, if you couldn't even rub two pound coins together, congratulations. You're a millionaire now. Oh, that's the way to do it. But then we have to tax you for being millionaire,
Starting point is 00:26:10 so it's cyclical. You're pretty much to describe the government there. I'm going down to Bournemouth on Sunday to see my mum. and taking the whole family and the dog, and we've rented a beach hut. Oh. Oh, no way. Yeah. How much is that?
Starting point is 00:26:25 They're really not that much. I was in Bournemouth last summer and, oh, no, it was the summer before last summer. We always stop. Lately, we've stopped in Bournemouth on the way back home from our trip to center parks in the summer. Of course. And we usually stop in Bournemouth for like a night or two. And I think it was two summers ago. There was the air show, like the annual air show was on.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. the beach was fucking packed. Like, it was unbelievable. Like, there's just not, I couldn't see any sand. It was loaded with people. Yeah, it was just insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like, when we talk about the decay of the British seaside town, there are a few standout exceptions. One of them is boredomers seems to be thriving. Yeah. Crazy. First of all, the beach is genuinely, in my opinion, and I am biased, the best in the UK in terms of the actual quality of the beach. The council keeps it very clean for the most part.
Starting point is 00:27:21 The water's gentle, the waves, the shelf from the beach out is gentle. So the kids don't just plunge straight into 10 feet of freezing cold Atlantic. Like, it's really gentle. It's five miles long. You can find quiet parts of it. And it's just really pretty. You've got the cliffs there and you've got the little fish and chips you can get. And there's the arcade and everything.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I don't like it down by the pier. It's a little overdone. It's a bit much. But you can find a nice part. And also, you know, if you go around to like, Pool Bay and stuff. There's all little bits around there. You can get to that are much quieter. Go to someone like on. And then if you go down the Purbex, there's nice little hidden beaches down there. It's nice little part of the UK. I like it a lot. We arrive in pool because that's like
Starting point is 00:28:02 our ferry connection. So we're like in and around pool. But yeah, Bormouth's nice. Like you can get to, you could eventually get to Southampton if you keep going. Why would you? Exactly. But yeah, no, I like Bournemouth a lot. And pool's not too bad. I mean, it's a small little place, but like, it's okay. It's a little bit. Most people only see the sort of the glamorous front of Bournemouth and Pool. Where it's, if it's close to the water in Bournemouth and Pool, probably quite nice.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. When you go inland a bit, it's really more. I think it's like, like called Sandbanks or something in and around pool. And it's like, fucking. That's the schnazziest of the schnazziest day. Yeah. That's really nice. That's the closest we've got to something, some fancy kind of
Starting point is 00:28:48 niece, Monaco adjacent San Trope. Yeah. Like, it's ridiculous. Like, I'm not saying it's like that. I'm saying that's the closest we've got, where everybody's got a fucking yacht and a supercar, and they have a huge pad looking out over the water. Sandbags is, all the footballers go down there.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Fucking Harry Rednappleves down here, I've got a place in Sandbakes, been son, and got it a few years ago, love it. Yeah, that's nice. It is, it is nice. When you're coming in on the ferry, everybody's just outside looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Saw a body getting hauled out of Bull Harbor one time, though. True story. That's nice. Oh, what's it? Human, a human body. Jesus. Yeah, obviously he had drowned. Was it naked?
Starting point is 00:29:29 No, they were covered it with a sheet. Boy, is he naked under there? I yelled from the bus. Hold on, mate. Oh, have a look. He's starkers. Oh, disgusting. Was he raped?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Wait, what did you say? Was he raped? Was he raped? What the fuck? Oh my God. Jesus Christ. That's the kind of shit they ask on CSI, isn't it? They do ask.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Sometimes those questions on CSI, right? Yeah. So is the beach? hut just a little private place for you to put your shit when you're sat on the beach? Or are you supposed to sit in it and read a book? I don't know what the beach etiquette hut. What's the point of a beach hut? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:30:21 It just shields you from like the wind and the sand sometimes. No, it's, imagine if you're at the beach. Yes, exactly. Right. It's your base of it. So it's got, you can go in there and get out of the sun. You could also, you'll have things for like you can make some food, cup of tea, all that kind of stuff. You can store all your beach stuff down there.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like it's like a one-room studio apartment, basically. Does it have electricity and water? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all right. I thought it was just like one of those little tents. No, no, no. It's like a little shed on a beach. No, it's like a tiny little studio apartment.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Like there's there'll be a sofa in there. I've seen some of them even have like a little fold-out bed in there. So someone gets tired. They have those like showers next to them as well, like a little shower. As far as I know, certainly the one we're staying out, it's not, there's no toilet facilities. There's no shower or anything. That's, you could just use the ones at the beach.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So what do you do if you need a big piss while you're down there? You go to the toilet. What do you think the sea is for, Sam? I would never want to piss in the sea. You know, like Lulu says, base of operations. You've never peed in the sea. No, I don't enjoy swimming in the sea, which I know it sounds a bit weird considering where I live. But I just, the whole thing is I just don't like it much at all.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I don't like swimming in rivers and lakes. Lake, oh, swimming in a lake is kind of gross. It's the bottom of the lake. Like, I like sand. Sand is nice. I don't like all the things down there in the lake. I agree. Yeah, I don't love all the leaves and the big flapping green things touching you.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, I don't want to get touched by anything. You get a lot of that in lakes. It's like, it's gone. I'll push. I'll happily push through a bush, mate. But if it's underwater and I can't see what's touching my foot, no thanks. No, thanks. I went to a cottage one time as a kid and like a cottage on a lake, which is like fairly, you know, in Ontario, Quebec. Like there's lots of, lots of cottages like that people, uh, time share or, you know, people.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Some great lakes have inherited cottage on a lake. And they used to be a lot cheaper, I think, too. Like it was pretty common for like people in the suburbs to have like a, you know, a cottage that you could go to for like, you know, a couple of weeks in the summer or whatever. I went to one one time and there was a, there was a, there was a war. water slide on a dock that just dumped you right into the lake, which is cool. You think like, wow, that's awesome. But you go down the water slide and you go in the lake and you feel like the lake is like pulling you down and trying to kill you because there's so many fucking weeds and shit. Like, oh, it's awful. It was really gross, yeah. And it's freezing fucking cold.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Yeah, it is freezing cold. Because it's Canada. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like a little storage of freezing cold water, even in summer. Yeah. It's like, okay. Yeah. Before we continue, this podcast is sponsored by aura frames. I love my aura frame. My parents love theirs. It's great when they spot new photos that we've uploaded and shared. And everyone who comes around always catches the aura frame when it changes to a different picture or laughs at it or points at it. It's amazing. With kids going back to school, there's loads of opportunities to get your family on the aura frame. And it's just a great, nice, calm piece of tech that enhances daily life without overwhelming it. Surfacing meaningful memories in a way that feels ambient and additive.
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Starting point is 00:34:13 mentioning us at checkout, terms and conditions. Apply on with the show. So by the way, do you remember we had an email in a while back about Opera? No. About what? And I said, you didn't even let me finish the fucking sentence. You're an animal. I didn't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I didn't even hear what you said. What did you say? It doesn't matter. Opera. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Email about opera. We're interrupting the interruption about the interruption.
Starting point is 00:34:39 That's right. I do remember this email that was received about opera, yes. I'm yawning and stretch. I'll come to this in my own time. It's all right, maybe in a further episode. We'll cover it. We got all day. Have we?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Well, I'm going to see this opera. Do you remember we were challenged? If you don't like opera, come and see it, me and Mrs. F are going to go see it? Oh, no way. You can see it next Friday. Which one are you going to see? I or Lanth.
Starting point is 00:35:02 It's Gilbert and Sullivan, apparently. Right. So an operetta, I believe, is what. call it, I don't know. Quite a small theatre, quite intimate. Should be a crack. Nice. Seven hours long.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Oh, what? No, it's not. I'm gonna kidding. I would never go. I would never go. Oh, my God. Seven. What's it called again?
Starting point is 00:35:20 Sorry. I-O. Lantth. I-O-Lantth. With an E-O-Lanth. Have you read any, are there any reviews up for it on? Like, how would you read about an opera review? Is there like an aggregator site for that? I think you just look in the.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Also known as the pier and the perry. It's not to do with the pier or like at the beach or anything. Like a hereditary pier. It's a comic opera first performed in 1882. Wow. It's about like the queen of the fairies and a fairy wants to marry a guy who's in the house of lords or something. I'm sure it's hilarious for a 19th century audience.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm just going along to see if operas. It is a classic Gilbert and Sullivan opera. Why not? Yeah, we'll go see it. Yeah, sounds like it'll be a really interesting thing to do. You know what I mean? You didn't get free tickets? You got free tickets?
Starting point is 00:36:11 From the viewer? Yes, they had some comp tickets. They set some aside for us. How much do those usually set you back, like, in under normal circumstances? I know. I mean, it's like I said, it's a small theater. It can't be that much. One thousand pounds.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So, yeah, probably a thousand pounds. You should scalp them. Can you imagine. Get into the back gallery with a trench coat on. You can scalp them. Got tickets for Ireland. I'll have to be. I'll have for tickets here.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Anyone else to see it? I'll have for tickets. Coordid of fairies. Hereditary peers. Gilbert Sullivan, 1882. I'll have tickets. Have you ever bought tickets on the street from a scalper?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Never. I have. Yeah, I have as well. I've sold to them. I've had to. It's a shame. The thing is, it is quite useful when you get there and you realize you can't make it, like to just sell the tickets.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Like, I'll try to sell them at face. You'll, you'll, see people hanging outside gigs saying, like, I'm selling them at face. You can just give me 20 quid for a 20-quit ticket, and you're like, brilliant, thank you. But sometimes I have sold them. I don't know if something happened to me during my childhood or something, but like even just buying things from the shop, like, I always think like this person's ripping me off or I'm getting ripped off.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And it would be like 10 times worse buying something off of someone, like not in a retail environment, you know, like a scalper or something. I would just feel like this fucking person is scamming me. person working in the shop. Ripping me off. Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, especially if I get my car back from the garage,
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm like, oh my God, they are fucking ripping me off. Like, I guess that's pretty common. It depends on the cost as well, I guess. You don't think they're ripping you off.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I have that feeling all the time. Like, so, so yeah, on the scalping, I feel like, yeah, that's something which has moved on blind now. But when I was at uni,
Starting point is 00:38:02 definitely if I was, you know, because I lived near to the theater or the, you know, or whatever and I, or gig tickets. Sometimes one of our friends didn't have one and we needed one at the last minute, sometimes we had one too many and we wanted to shift it. And so you used to have to hang around outside the gig and look for the slightly dodgy looking bloke.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah, but they, or look for someone else who's looking for other people. They do like a trade-in thing now, right, with like digital tickets. Because like they, I was thinking about this the other day. They must do this like at the World Cup, right? If you buy tickets for a match, but none of your teams are in that match. You must be able to trade them in to somebody
Starting point is 00:38:37 who actually wants those tickets, right? I think it depends. I know that FIFA was taking a cut of the resellers fee somehow. There was some bullshit, but the tickets for the most recent World Cup were very expensive. I know that a lot of the time, because I've got mates, I've never been to a tournament because I've always worried about the England fans being novets
Starting point is 00:39:00 and must somehow getting caught up with them or whatever. but I know the mates have gone and you sort of enter a draw, I think, and you can just get tickets. But if you're part of the England supporters club, like a regular attendee of England away games, it's easier to get tickets. Someone email in and let me know. Just a couple of you, please. Not everybody. Yeah, but like what?
Starting point is 00:39:17 So how does it work, though? Because if you, if you're buying tickets way in advance, like if you're buying World Cup tickets, you need a hotel, you need transport. You need all this stuff to be sorted out months or years before the actual event. So if you bought a ticket to like a quarter final game and then quarterfinals will roll around and it's just like two teams that you don't care about at all, you must be able to then trade in your ticket because like otherwise there'd be no team supporters ever at any match, right? Because it's you can't predict who's getting through. I think Sarah was telling me about this. I didn't she.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Because she went, didn't she? Sarah went. But she was she was in Boston and there were a few games in Boston, I think. Yeah, there was. And so she had, and I think her family are quite big football fans. And so they'd gotten tickets to three matches. And it was random. They didn't know what matches.
Starting point is 00:40:09 They just knew they were getting tickets to three matches. Right. Ended up. They happened to get England versus Ghana. And then they got another quite good one. And luckily they got another quite good one. And it was, it was, but they could have ended up with, you know, any old stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So my question is that when when you're watching on TV and you see all these fans, kidded out and stuff are some of them just like like tourist fans they're not real fans they're just like I have a ticket to this game I'm picking aside and I'm just going all in yeah maybe some well this was it like by the end certainly the World Cup final to get a ticket they were charging you like 10 grand or something yeah the final was like 10 grand tickets so you definitely had to have there there's definitely must be some sort of third party market or or some some system there's got to be a way to trade because otherwise how do they actually get any of it? the fans of the right countries into these stadiums.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah, I'm not sure. It would be nuts to be at like a World Cup final. I don't even think I'd mind too much which teams were there because it's the experience of being at the final, I guess. But like if you were like an avid supporter of like one specific side and you wanted to just see them though, there's got to be a way for you to trade things in and stuff. I mean, I know that what you're saying about booking years in advance,
Starting point is 00:41:26 you can't because they haven't drawn the groups or all that kind of stuff. No, but don't you buy tickets, don't you just buy like group tickets? Right, right. So it's like you get tickets, you're going to see whichever game is here at this date, you're going to be there. Yeah. But it is possible to then, I guess, sell it. Like you say, it must be.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. It must be. Yeah, because otherwise. I wonder if you're part of some England supporters club, you're like, I want to buy a package of tickets and this will just be the England games up to the quarterfinals. And then if you want to get it all the way to the finals, it costs extra. and then if you don't get there, you can sell them.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I don't know. There's a huge sub-market. Unlike some of the tickets being non-transferable, I'm assuming these ones are, you know, they're not immediately linked to your name. But I think there must be some. Otherwise, how on earth?
Starting point is 00:42:14 I just don't know. It's fascinating anyway. Yeah, I was just thinking about it the other day because they were just panning through the crowd and I was like, how the fuck did these people know, like, to be here? Like, this match was only decided like four days ago. Like, how have they, you know, logistically, how, how has this turnaround happened where they've got all of these, like, insane frothing supporters at this match? But there has to be a way to trade things in and not get a refund, but like, you must be able to put your tickets back in a pool that somebody else can pick up and then you get refunded or if you could take a cut or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It has to be, right? And how did they do it years ago before digital tickets and stuff? You know, like you see they do those little snips where they're like, oh, yeah, I saw England play in Mexico in 1982. Like, what the, you know, like how would you have done it back then? You would have had to just do it like on the street with scalpers and stuff, right? There would have been no system. But it was also cheaper. We're lucky nowadays that you can just do all this on your phone pretty much.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But like. Yeah, but also it was cheaper. Like when I used to go to gigs, it was like you could get into a gig for 17 quid, 20 quid. And now it's way more than that just for. the base ticket and they always auto sell out. So it moving online has made it much worse. The thing is if you went and bought it online now, they'll charge the fucking moon and people because they're paying digitally, it's like, well, yeah. But I'm not going to go to the gig with 400 quid on me hoping I can find a ticket. No. You know, so 10 grand. Right. So exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Well, we went to see the moment it moves online. Two years ago and it was like 18 pound for ticket. It's pretty good. Right, right. No one really wants to see that gig. Like I'm not being fun. It's not like a hot ticket. No, it was busy enough, though. What's her name? Taylor Swift ticket. Google were not changing their front page for fucking ghost face. They should.
Starting point is 00:44:05 They should. Those face in town, Google gets a complete makeover, yeah. Holy crap. So anything else, fun has happened to you guys? Are you looking forward to anything? What's on the list of things? Flax has got a whole bunch of busy stuff coming up. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Can I talk about this probably by the, time this goes out, it'll be announced. I'm off to Shanghai again. I'm going to T.I. Again, this year, 13th time. Whoa. Wow. So yeah, I'm going to that. I mean, so if this comes out next Wednesday, that'll be a week before I fly. So yeah, I'd be astonished if they haven't announced the people going by that. When are you, um, when did you, when did you last go to Shanghai? 2019. Because you were like, when you went then, you were like, this is the most futuristic city I've ever seen. And it's been seven years of like real rapid change. So I wouldn't say that I thought that Shanghai was futuristic when I went in 2019.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I felt that it was industrialized and kind of grim because it was, yeah, because the air was really, really bad because the industry was still in Shanghai. And the smog was bad and the roads were clogged and they were like, I don't know, it all just felt a bit like they were attempting something but hadn't hit it. So post-19, they've apparently literally turned into some kind of Jetsons. style futuristic city. And I honestly think in the last decade, China has accelerated everything to the point where now it is the future. And I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like and what they've done. My friend that is from Shanghai said, you will not recognize it. It's
Starting point is 00:45:39 so different from when you were here last time. So I'm looking forward to seeing what it's like. It is going to be 36 degrees. Okay. But the thing is in Shanghai, I saw this thing. On top of some of the buildings in Shanghai, they have these like massive like, mist sprayers. So when it's really hot out, they, well, they got lots of trees and stuff, apparently as well, which helps cool things down. But these big mist sprayers just spray like a ton of mist out the top of the buildings. And it can cool like the ground down around it, like in and around it by like eight degrees. So you might be, you might be surprised. It might be 36 out, but it might feel like a cool 21. But the humidity will be a thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I thought it's a really good idea, though. Yeah, yeah. I like stuff like that. That's cool. I mean, they're right next to the river and everything. There's probably like a big waste of water and there's probably all sorts of environmental issues with it or whatever. But like it's, it's, it was cool to see, you know, like somewhere doing something different
Starting point is 00:46:45 to just like, melting and dying and nothing is changing around me to help me. I wonder if it's better than AC. Like, certainly it's like, I don't know. It's a huge city. It's like 30 million people or something crazy like that. It's nuts. But yeah, I'll obviously, I'll be away then for a decent chunk of August. And then when we get back, we're going away for another week.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Take some pictures of building spray. I'll take a few snaps. Thanks so much. Thank you. Yeah, see if you can get out. Because, I mean, last time you were very sheltered in your hotel, I remember. Yeah, well, so that was definitely one thing in 2019. But the thing is, is I'm working.
Starting point is 00:47:24 So I'm flying out and then I've got it, I'm doing work for like three days and then the tournament starts will be working. And then in the days in between when it's meant to be like the off days, I'm working those days as well because they're always doing media stuff. So if you work on the side of things that I do, you get there and you're not just waiting for the games to start. You have to do the pre-tournament interviews, pre-tournament content pieces, planning interviews and stuff for the group stages. And then you're talking to the teams all through the group stages. And then in the off days, we're doing media day again for the teams that have made it to the finals and then you're doing pre-tournament content again, pre-tournament interviews again,
Starting point is 00:47:58 and then interviews again when the tournament starts. So it's like it's non-stop. It's not like these fucking lucky commentators who work one series and they get the rest of the day off. Like, that's the dream. You don't get anywhere near as much time off when you're doing what I do, which is annoying because it's the least glamorous and cool job. I don't know how you do it. I could never do that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It's like it's way too much. Like I'd be immediately exhausted, like if I had to do that. I'm tired immediately afterwards. Yeah. Like that's earlier this year. Do you remember I basically, I think the whole of May? Was it May that I was away for? Let me just chat.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I think it was May. May. No, maybe it was April. Either way, I was away a lot. March I was away a ton of that. Yeah, February March, I was away. That's right. So from the 11th of February until the second of March,
Starting point is 00:48:45 I basically worked nonstop. And then I had two weeks off and went away for another 10 days for more work. But then I hadn't done anything like that since. So it's weird. Like it's these bursts of activity where you're working. It feels like all the tournaments come at once and it's really hard. And all you're thinking about is Dota, Dota, Dota. And then you get back and you're like, I never want to look at Dota again as long as I live.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And then a couple of weeks go by and you start to creep back into it. But it is a Birmingham was really hard. That was a shift. I was tired for that. But yeah, I think it's like, I think it's just like the mixture of the air time. And you just got to be like professional the whole time. too. The whole time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like you're with, you're with colleagues, right? Yeah. So we're hanging out. Like between the games, we're in the green room and stuff and we're watching the game. It is great crack. Like everybody's so lovely. It's really, really funny, but you're not chilling. You're watching the game.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You're preparing your questions. You're trying to keep note of Reddit and what the drama is on Twitter and all the rest of it, because you've got to ask the players, what did they say before this? What do they say that? And coordinating with the translator if you're working with a translator. So like the Chinese translators, I know them really well. I know them really well. The Spanish language translators, I know them really well.
Starting point is 00:49:54 So it's like chatting with them. What's this guy been up to this year? What would be a good question? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then trying to make sure you still look presentable, getting your makeup done, checking your earpiece. And then you're out in front of a crowd and there's like thousands of people there and tens of thousands of people watching.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And you're like, please don't say something stupid. Don't like burp or fart or like, don't accept or fart or like, be sick on yourself or something. Yeah. Or sometimes like you'll have like four questions ready and you'll ask, one question and the player just goes off and it's a great answer. Perfect. Great. Best interview. But sometimes you'll ask a question and they don't want to answer, although they're not really. You're like, okay. And you'll ask another question. No. And you know you need to do about a minute
Starting point is 00:50:34 and a half interview. But now you're thinking, shit, what do I ask this guy who doesn't want to answer any questions without just being the default question. It's quite stressful. And then you do one of those sneezes where like fucking snot goes all in your hand and like there's some string like on your beard and shit. I wonder what you ask in those situations I guess it's like the same thing that expert people who are used to dealing with awkward people can automatically get
Starting point is 00:51:01 I guess people will always talk about themselves right? No, often not. A lot of the players don't want to do the interviews like straight up don't want to do it and a lot of the bigger teams of course not but it's like it is part of the job and generally especially if you're the captain or like a senior player you should be doing it
Starting point is 00:51:19 It's good for the brand of your team. It's good for your personal brand as a player. It's like, it makes sense to take this free airtime and come out. I mean, people like, there's a player called Saberlight who is, he's like, he's an off-laneer. He's really, really lovely guy. He is known as being a great interview. And he is because you can just hand him the mic and he will say, I'll sum the game up. You give me the mic and you just let him pop off for two minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And it's the best content and everybody loves it. That's the dream. And some players are just, yes, no, no, no, not really, yes. So you just got to kind of find the right question. I love the ones where they don't speak English. They have to do this huge translation of the question. And then the answer is just like, no. He says no.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It's a one word answer. Yeah, I get that a lot. So, but yeah, it's one of those things where if the player's not talking much, I'll cover the airtime by asking longer questions or like laying something out and then just letting them just fill in the blank sort of thing. Because you can't just ask a short question and get a short answer. That's a terrible interview. If it's evident they're not going to say much.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I know you just always have some backup. You know, how does it feel to be back a TI or, you know, I've done my prep. So I'm like, this is your fourth TI in a row or you missed out on the last two TI's. You must be glad to get this here, like that kind of thing. You need to have all that in the back of your mind. But yeah, it's tough. But the commentators do tons of prep as well. I'm not saying they don't.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Everybody does. Yeah, you'd have to. Insane amounts of prep. Yeah. Like I sit next to Shiva when she's doing her preparation. She's just got one of those things, what is it called a remarkable? Have you heard of these? No, imagine it looks like a Kindle, but you can write on it, draw on it, and you can
Starting point is 00:52:53 like save it as it print from it. It's like, so she just takes notes, but instead of just having all these fucking bits of paper, she just has this nice little screen. She's got tons and tons and tons of notes on there about every team and stuff. So it looks utterly seamless when she's doing it up there hosting, but it's because she's putting all the fucking hours of work ahead of time. Yeah, you can tell like, you can tell that there's a lot of behind the scenes work with a lot of this stuff because it's just, if somebody told me to go on and present host something
Starting point is 00:53:22 or do commentary on something or whatever, I'd just be like, oh my God. Like, I would immediately meltdown. It's very stressful. The first time I had to do anything on stage was at TI6. So fucking 10 years ago was the first time I was actually on the stage proper. And it was the final of the of TI. And they decided we were going to host the panel from the stage on stools. It looked super awkward looking back at it now, but I was like trying to get out of it. At the last thing, like, we're walking down there. I was like, do we have to do this? Like, is this a thing we have to do?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Maybe we could go back to the panel, because I was so scared of talking in front of the crowd. Yeah. We just, once you do it that first time, it does get easier. And then, like, at Birmingham earlier this year, I was out there on the stage. Like, it's me on a little plinth doing this stupid quiz to fill the time. And there's just the whole crowd there. And you just get used to it.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like, I wouldn't say I ever really love it. It's not like I'm like, yes, I love to be in front of the crowd, but I think I can do it. I've got to the point now I know I can do it. I've done it before. And once you've done it, those few times and you survive. Yeah, you have a little bit more confidence about it and stuff. Yeah, it's not so bad. There's not so many things that surprise you.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I think that's the other thing. Like, you've kind of, I found this as well with stuff. Like, it's rare that you're going to be put in a position that you haven't been put in before. Yeah, you've been hired to do something they know you can do. Think of it that way. So, yeah. Yeah. And it's, I guess that's just a thing that you do see that with celebrities too.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And I think that that's why they, when they have to do all those force interviews for a new movie, right? Well, you always see it. I don't know, I can't still believe they still make these celebrities to do these, you know, all these crappy little interviews all over the world. They really clearly don't want to be there. Right, like a trash junket, you mean when they're sort of on the tour? Yeah, exactly. Any time something weird happens that you can tell in their faces that they're like, oh, Thank fuck, something, you know, that's going to make this day less boring.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's like, in my experience, though, like, all this stuff is pulled up. So, like, you're doing interviews for outlets that you've never heard of. And you probably will never hear the interview you've just done or like, or find it or whatever. Like, because I think like at an event, like I went to this thing one time, this is back when we were with Maker. We went out to L.A. to do something. I was with Duncan. We went out to do something. And there was a bunch of people that, like, Game Grumps were there and like PewDie Pie and all these.
Starting point is 00:55:44 all these like big YouTubers of the time were there. And it was like this, this thing that was all filmed in like one of like the Disney studios in Burbank and everything. And after like the, the filming, the event thing, there was like a like a live audience and stuff. They had like this pool of people that were,
Starting point is 00:56:03 um, selected to like, you know, interview people or whatever. And like, I remember like one of the ladies came up and was like, oh, could you do a quick interview with like,
Starting point is 00:56:13 Disney FM radio or something. It's like, I guess so. Like, I don't know. And they were just, they, they didn't know who I was. They didn't know anything about me. And they were asking me these questions and I was just giving these answers. And like, I don't know if that ever saw the light of day. Like, I just, none of us knew what was going on at all.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Like, it was so awkward. It was crazy. Yeah. But I think that's how it happens, right? Like, they just have like a pool of, of people like press kind of people. that want to ask questions or interview or whatever. And then they just, like, after the event's done, they just kind of unleash them.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But I'd imagine that, like, big, big celebrities probably end up giving, like, answers to questions or interviews to stuff that they just have no idea what it is or where it's going to be aired or whatever. I think in that case, it's their job. And their job is to interview people. And they're just like, they just want to appear to be doing their job. Yeah. Do you mean?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Like, their boss said, get got these big YouTubers. Get me. Get me interviews with Get some clips. Get me some clips. Yeah. Get me photos of Sips. Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:57:21 Who is this fucking guy? I hear Sips is the big new thing. Get some, get an interview with Sips. It was so fucking stupid. Like it was so dumb. Like it's just like a fucking idiot who plays Minecraft in his shorts. Like I like what the fuck am I supposed to say to like any of these people?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Exactly. So dumb. Yeah. Oh shit. You know, I saw a trailer the other day. Because I didn't realize they're still making superhero movies. I mean, I should have guessed that they were. But they've made the new Avengers movie where they face Dr. Doom.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, yeah. One of my favorite baddies from Marvel. He's the guy with a green cape and hood and a metal face and body. Yeah, and just his eyes peeking out. But is Robert Downey Jr. playing Doom? Oh. And Doom was meant to be like a sort of, I always imagined it like a Nazi that didn't die and was just doing it again in his own little country and being a shit lord, right?
Starting point is 00:58:13 But it's Robert Downey Jr. So how is he going to do as a villain? Is he just going to be Iron Man but the baddie? Because he's in a metal suit again. But is he going to rob it downy junior it up? Because he has a very specific way of doing things. So they're going to turn up and be like, his Dr. Doom.
Starting point is 00:58:27 He's like, hey, Dr. Doom here. Love that outfit. You look great. Hey, let's get a sheesh Kabab. You know, it's like, what's happening? You're meant to be the villain. Is he going to basically just be R.D.J. But the badie, it's not going to make sense.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I don't know much about Dr. Doom. My only sort of like Dr. Doom knowledge comes just from listening to MF Doom. Right, right, of course. Clips and stuff, but like I don't know much about him other than that. Like, I don't know what kind of villain he is. Like, I know he's like a super villain type. He's a super villain, but I don't know like what his powers are or anything. He's not a powers kind of guy, I do.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Right. Like he's, he's, so looking him up, he's the monarch of Latvaria. Right. So he's incredibly clever. And like super villain plotting, ah, yes, my plans. And like, I think the Sinister Six, which was like a group of other villains that he got together. They weren't very good, but they were annoying.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Like, the Sinister Six was not especially sinister. Let me give you an idea of who was it. It depends, actually. It kind of changed. But some of them, you think, like, really this guy? So the Sinister Six was a group of villains. And the membership was, here we go, list of Sinister Six members. Doc Ock, great, great get.
Starting point is 00:59:38 He's a proper villain. Yeah, he's a little. He's not bad. Yeah, Electro. He's not good. He's the electricity thing. I'm not familiar with Elector. Craven the Hunter, who's just a dude that hunts.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah. Mysterio, who's kind of, he was in one of the Spider-Man movies. He can like do mind control shit. Sandman. Sandman, yeah. I know Sandman. Yeah. And then Vulture, who's just a lad with fake wings who flies about and has a big, big
Starting point is 01:00:02 sort of bold head and a funny nose. That's him. They sound a lot more nefarious and notorious than they actually are, is what you're saying. Like, it's like, it's like giving the name, uh, like giving a cool name to like three lads down the pub sort of thing, you know? Yeah, it's just some of them you think like, these guys, none of them are going to take over the world.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Or telecoms engineers. Maybe Doc Ock could do something like that. But like, you know, Hobgoblin and these are all these are all Spider-Man level baddies where you can beat them with some web and some fast movement. These aren't like Galactus level baddies where you need everyone. Yeah. Well, he was the, he was the bad guy of the lazy. Fantastic Four movie, which I think is part of the setup to this big new...
Starting point is 01:00:45 Well, Doctor Doom was the... No, Galactus. Oh, Galactus was. But in the... It wasn't good. Didn't the trailer for Avengers, Doomsday go like mega viral? Isn't it like got like a huge... 503 million views on a day?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Galactus is the dude with the big purple helmet, right? And he's like in space. He's huge, yeah. Like he's the planet eater. Yeah. So I always felt like Secret War was the whole Secret Wars thing for Marvel, or at least the one that I read when I was younger, was them getting everyone together to fight Galactus, because he's going to eat Earth.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's so weird that their spectrum for villains is like a guy from Long Island or a planet eater. You know what I mean? Like, come on. No, that's literally it. Like the citizens said, so like, hey, it'd be shame of something happened to that car. It's real nice car you got there. And Giles is like, I will eat your planet. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And somehow Spider-Man has to deal with both parties. Like, he has to fight Galactors. And they're both equally threatening. Of course. Yeah, that is funny. I think that's because obviously a lot of the heroes, like Spider-Man is very strong and he's an excellent, excellent Marvel hero. He's a great hero, great character.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I love Spider-Man. But his powers are not comparable to like Thor or the Hulk or someone like that. Yeah, those guys see, like the cosmic ones, like the Silver Surfer and like, uh, You know, like those, like the outer space ones just seem like really fucking powerful compared to like. Yeah, it's way beyond Spider-Man who's just like a- Punisher. The Punisher's got guns. What's he going to do?
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah. Yeah. But like, like, it's not a fair fight to have like a guy like the Punisher up against like Galacticus. But I guess like you said, they got to bring in the whole, the whole band needs to get together for that one. I mean, I'm looking forward to it, but I'm also not. Do you want to do lose news? Yes, I very much. Yes, please, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 The Caputim face has been on everything. I don't know if you've seen. Yeah, he's going, he's going crazy now. He is. Him and a lot of people are running in Clacton against. Yeah. There's like 46 or something insane. Because basically, obviously, everyone realized that they could get on some free publicity.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yes. So just any, any, any, one of the great things he actually said was, you know, I don't if you know Lawrence Fox. Oh, he's a, yeah. He's a, he's a son of a, this. dynasty of famous actors and he's a, he's a pricks. He's a great grandson of a fantastic Mr. Fox. But one of the things his own face said was,
Starting point is 01:03:20 wherever there's a bin, there's a fucking fox. So stuff like that. He's, he's done a lot of things. One of the things he said this week was that he wants to, because back in the 90s, I don't if you remember in London, there was a Sega World Resort. Do you remember this thing? I don't, I know, I don't.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I don't know of this at all. There was a Sega World in Bournemouth for ages. It was just a big arcade. Right. It was just like a big, yeah, a big video game. Okay, Nick, shut down in 1999. I guess because probably of the smoking ban and various other reasons that people didn't want to go there anymore. The smoking ban?
Starting point is 01:03:56 What do you think it was? Some kind of seedy gentlemen's club? It's because consoles got better. Nobody wanted to go to an arcade. I went to a big Sega arcade in Japan and it was just full of businessmen smoking. It was full of businessmen smoking. It was rough. Yeah, but it's still.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Hervey over there. There are kids have like, you know, it's all titties. It's like feeling breasts up. Titties. Sure. What? It's like, it's like an anime, Pyrin's anime voice. Tiddis.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Titties. Oh God, so my eldest showed me a reel the other day of someone in a Pachinko parlor. And there's like a video screen with an anime girl on it. And she's touching the screen with her hand. And she's like, oh, the game is over. But touch my hand and wish me goodbye. And the guy puts his hand on her hand. And she's like, okay, you can stop touching my hand now.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And he doesn't. And she sort of reacts to that. She goes, oh, and blushes. I'm like, what is this? I can't believe it. Okay. Anyway, that Info is going to bring back Sega World. He's also going to build one affordable house as well.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yes, one affordable house. And move the hand dryer in that toilet in that pub. Yeah. It's good to be consistent. consistent with his policies, bridge arms. He's had that policy for the 10 years.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So China, I know you're going there, P-Flex, but unfortunately, they have just banned AI girlfriends and boyfriends. Excellent. I'm all on board with us.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Millions, millions of users have been forced into sudden breakups. My days are suffered. I'm going to lose all my bitches. Can no longer, can no longer to cater to users
Starting point is 01:05:38 induce emotional dependence or addiction or damage users real interpersonal relationships. Yeah. So that's interforce. Well done. Yeah. Oh, this is a great one.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You ready with this? In the Netherlands, as a tribute to the late Dutch concept artist, Vim T. Shippers. Yes. An artist has smeared 800 pounds of peanut butter all over the floor. Wow. What a tribute. What a mess.
Starting point is 01:06:14 What a tribute. Let me give you this picture. What a nutter. What a nutter. Hey. Enjoy. Vim shippers. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Oh, that is very expertly placed, actually. It's about 15,000 sandwiches worth. Right. I thought that this was just going to be like peanut butter smeared on like a dock somewhere. But no, this is like. What a waste of. This is professional.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Somebody tended those peanuts all the way up to peanut hood, got the peanuts, nutted them, right? Buttered them, packaged them, shipped them, sold them, and he's put it all over the floor. So basically, this is a tribute to a famous conceptual artist who died last month. He was 83. His whole thing was peanut butter. He loved to put the peanut butter on the ground.
Starting point is 01:07:03 He loved a peanut butter. And he spread the peanut butter on the ground, though he didn't put the bread on one side and the bread on the other side to make but he did put it all over the ground. It's disgusting. What a waste of peanut butter. So he made a thing. Do you want to just read this article?
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's actually really funny. What does that word say? Pinda cast lover. Pindercast flower. Bizarar, some would say naughty tribute has been made to a well-known Dutch artist who died last month in the form of a floor covered an 800 pounds of peanut butter.
Starting point is 01:07:30 A sticky homage has been created at the museum. Boisgumann. We took out of the boot in Rotterdam with Dutch artist, 20 shippers. The installation involves enough bit of butter, put around 15,000 sandwiches spread across the floor. It's not clear.
Starting point is 01:07:43 If it's crunchy or smooth. He died in 83. You almost went full Swedish chef there at a couple of points. Keep going. Keep the movie. Oh, the people have stepped on it. Then I know. You've got to carry on.
Starting point is 01:07:57 It took two employees. Carry on. Of the museum, Buzi Man's von Buchenne in several days to spread 40 buckets of peanut across a 25 square meter hexagon. The men use drywall trowels to smear it to a thickness of two centimeters. It doesn't look bad, Shippers told Dutch newspaper Volfs cramped at the time. The sprinkles have been applied with a cinch of proportion and a skillful hand. No, no, no, you missed a whole paragraph.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Multiple visitors stepped on it, yeah, when it was on display in 2011. In 1997, the world was vandalized when a group of people placed 12 slices of bread and several bags of hagglesleg. There's salt with sprinkles for you. On the floor. So basically he's done this multiple times before and people have added bread and sprinkles to it or stepped in it or done stuff with it.
Starting point is 01:08:47 This guy voiced Ernie and Kermann the Frog in the Dutch version of Sesame Street. That's great. That's funny, isn't it? Holy shit. People are fantastic. They were all standing here looking at peanut butter, he told journalists in 1997.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I had an email today. this is one of those I'm just reaching out for a co-lab emails that you get to any work email address. Yeah. Is this from a peanut butter place? Sadly not. So it would be really appropriate. I'm not going to I'm not going to call out the company because this person doesn't even work for this company.
Starting point is 01:09:17 They're just doing some PR for them. We kept coming back, reaching out because we've been looking closely at a select group of creators to potentially partner with for the rest of 2026. We kept coming back to your content, especially how you capture the culture around pushing boundaries and living
Starting point is 01:09:32 boldly. It has that raw, uncompromising quality. Boldly, not boldly. And that's what we need when we're considering brand fit. So, yeah. So that is the most, it's like a fucking horoscope, isn't it? It's like a generic email that they can just mass out to any and any and everyone and any little hook they get. And I fall for it every time. Well, the thing is like, you know, it's work to personalize this stuff. And they don't want to do that. They want to spend half. an hour or less doing this, do you know what? And then they move on to the next scam.
Starting point is 01:10:08 And then if you get back to them and you say, oh yes, I'll give you 10% of my money. Of course, I'll give you 10% of my peanut butter. You can help yourself. It's right there on the floor on a giant hexagon. Don't taste the sprinkles. Mind of sprinkles. Notty hagg and slag.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Indeed. That's our podcast for this week. Thank you. But this week, thanks so much for listening. all the best. It's been a nice one yet. Bye. Bye.

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