Triforce! - How to join the Yogscast | Triforce Mailbag #62

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Triforce Mailbag Special 62! The gang read a very strange text conversation about buying socks, we get some jingles of varying levels of quality and we get some great questions about the Yogscast! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickax Pickax Hello friends Welcome back to Trifference podcast This is a mailbag episode I hope you're ready Right, let's get right into it I bet you've got this email at least four times

The Blades of Glory-style curling movie Sips Was Thinking of is called Men with Brooms Men with Brooms And it's cool men Features a scrappy Canadian underdog team that has to face down a flamboyant American team. I knew there was a curling movie out there somewhere. There you go. There you go.

There you go. I knew it. Straight out of the gate with a good correction. Great. Thank you. Leslie Dielsen in it. Oh, there you go. Yeah. He's someone's dad, I think, probably.

You know, it's funny. His whole career was just based around being a straight guy, like the straight man who was actually being funny. He was so funny, though. He was so good at it. Yeah, but the reason that they got him to do airplane in the first place was because he'd always played these very sort of stiff, very formal characters. Turns out he was a comedic, you know, he was brilliant at comedic timing and he was a great comic actor.

But he never would have been. Hey, listen, before, uh, just speaking of, uh, people who were, uh, who were once famous and now, uh, and now gone, uh, have you guys seen the Pee Wee Herman documentary? What? He's not dead as himself. Yeah, yeah, he died a couple years ago. Oh, shit. Did he really God? I fucking missed that. Yeah. If you want to, if you want to see an interesting documentary, it's because it's two parts. It's all about his life, rise to fame, controversies. I loved Pee Wee Herman. I know he was a bit of a, you know, he masturbated in public theaters and stuff, but geez, that's the worst.

Who hasn't been caught in the local cities? My arm is up in the air right. I've never been caught. Oh, yeah, no, that's true. We've never been caught. I'm not saying I don't do it. I'm just saying nobody's ever caught me doing it, which is, you know, another thing entirely. No, it's interesting.

If you haven't seen it, Peewee as himself, I recommend it's really good, really interesting. Especially if you have some nostalgia for the Peewee playhouse show, which I used to watch one of the kid. It was honestly so good. Peewee's big adventure was Tim Burton's, like, big first movie as well, which is interesting. I love that movie as well. Yeah, it was really good. Peeway Herman in the 80s was like, if you haven't heard of him, you go look it up, it seems weird.

He was, it was genuinely, you'd never seen a kids TV show like it. It was mad. It was so bizarre and funny and just utterly crazy. And it still can't believe it got made. That's really interesting, yeah. I mean, it started as like they did it. It was like a series of. of plays that they did with an improv group in L.A.

He was big into, he used to be really good friends with Phil Hartman as well. Phil Hartman was originally one of the characters in the Peewee sort of stage show that they used to do locally for like, you know, 100 people at midnight on a Saturday night or whatever. And then it just gained momentum from there and got, it just got really, really big. It became like a cult thing.

And then they said, oh, do you want to make a movie? Do you want to make a TV show or whatever? And he was like, yeah, sure. You just ran with it. It was really interesting. But Pee-Wy-Herman debuted in 1979. Yeah, that's like the stage. I can believe it.

The stage show was like really early on. And then the show- It was like 1986. Yeah, he went on. So it was like a persona that he created for this show. And he would go on to like, he would go on to like news radio shows as Pee-We-Herman. He went on the dating show as Pee-wey-Herman. Like it was just, he was like, you know, he liked being like sort of.

He liked doing like that. He was very artistic. He liked doing all the... Wow. Yeah, I think he was brilliant. Yeah, it's really good. Speaking of Peewey Herman, here's a follow-up email. Triforce, the straightest guy you know, which is obviously not Paul Rubens.

Hey, period, long-time listener, first-time male bagger. I was listening to the podcast on the train and was cracking up at Sips talking about the straightest guy who could think of with the builders in his house. It reminded me of a reality TV show called Playing It Straight from the early 2000s, where a mix of gay and straight men entered a dude ranch. and competed to woo a lady. Each week she would eliminate who she thought was gay

as they were not in it for love and would get a cash prize if she was right and she ended up thinking the straight guy. It was very much of its time, very much so, and has aged pretty poorly as you can imagine, but there is a somewhat nice silver lining

of one of the final men being the most obviously straight, turning out to be gay and going on the show to challenge stereotypes. Do you have any guilty pleasure TV shows or shows that haven't aged well? Touch the truck always struck me

something that you wouldn't get made nowadays. And, of course, it's sequel, touched the kids. But it was a long time ago. That kind of thing just happened. You know, nowadays. We were talking about Little Britain the other day in chat on what I was streaming. And that's one that has not aged very well at all.

I hated it at the time. And now looking back, I despise it. At the time, some of it I found very funny. But it was just such a weird time. I feel like for me, I don't know if this is correct or not, but I feel like that was like one of the last sort of big mainstream shows that was on before we had a lot of like political correctness and, you know, canceling people and all that kind of stuff. I feel like that was like maybe the last, the last show. Not that I look back and think like, oh, I wish we could go back to those days. Because when you look back on a lot of the humor and the jokes, some of it is just dire.

Like, it has not, it has not aged well at all. It's just weird. But at the time, I remember some of it being very funny, you know? Like, I just, I don't know, it was, some of it was very, like, simplistic and whatever, but, yeah. For me, that's a huge, like, hasn't aged well show. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same. It was so heavily sort of catchphrase. Like, I don't even, I've watched, like, a handful of bits of episodes because I've never liked it.

But people loved a catchphrase and a repeated sketch. computer says no, wasn't that one of them, that's still a thing that people say, which was just a sketch where a guy is, I don't know, he's working in various places, and someone asks a question and they tap it and the computer says no. So that was it, that was it was like, how is that a fucking sketch that gets into everybody's brains? It's so bizarre. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't know. It's like I said, like I can never predict it. Some of it I found like not like not too bad and then some of it. I think the touch, the truck genre was a big deal. This is where you had to hold on to something for as long as you possibly could.

It died in the wake of that woman who died holding a wee for a wee or whatever. Yeah. It was like, yeah, it was like the Stephen King adapt adaptation. It's about to come out called The Long Walk, where people just have to walk at a certain pace and last man standing wins a billion dollars or whatever. It was a, it was one of his Richard Backman novellas back in the day and now they've adapted it and I mean it's pretty amazing that decided to make a movie about this because it's quite a short story

and it's literally just a bunch of lads walking and if they lag behind for too long they get shot like that's the set up. It feels like people have been a lot more creative with that in things like Squid Game and even like Mr. Beast's fucking I hate to say he's brought this shit back with like how I'm sure he did a similar thing

where he had like YouTubers competing for how long they could stay in a hot tub or some shit. I hope, fuck, though. Who knows? It's just semi-dangerous stuff that eventually someone will die doing and it'll move on again and then it'll come back around. Well, it doesn't sound that dangerous.

That's the thing, like touching a truck doesn't sound dangerous or holding your wee doesn't sound dangerous. And it was never advertised as such, right? It was never promoted as holding your wee for a week. It was like an endurance sport that an average person could say, I could do that. I could stay up all right, touch in the truck. I could hold my way for ages.

Yeah, but why not just do like, if you think you could just like going to Keshe's castle or something, like that's fine. You're probably not going to die on that, you know? Like, it's a good format. But it writes itself, right? You have these people who you get everyone around. You just film them all.

Some of them drop out immediately. And then there's one or two people who just stay on for ages. And then they argue with each other and they, you know, and that's it. You know, you create a little bit of, it's lazy, reality TV was so alluring because it was unscripted, unpredictable, real in a sense. Like, it was, it was, if you film for long enough, something interesting happens, you know, because you've got a bunch of weirdos together.

You've deliberately picked the weirdest people who applied, you know, and that's what you get. That's how all these things still go today. Anyway, let's get on with the mailbag. Okay, I'm sorry. Lewis and Sips Dream Controversy. Don't worry. This is not going in the direction you immediately imagined that it would. Do you know what?

I'm pretty open. I'm pretty loose. I didn't. I haven't considered where this is going. I'm intrigued, though. Okay. I was having a dream the other day where I was driving my partner to work. Usually I like to leave music on,

but my partner has been enjoying the podcast, so I'll play that in the car. Anyway, as I was taking a turn in my dream, the podcast was finishing up. You'd said something I can't remember. but afterwards, SIPP dropped the N-word with the hardest R I have ever heard. I can still hear him saying it in my head.

Lewis immediately busted into laughter, finding the whole thing hilarious. You didn't respond. My partner covered their mouth in shock. I don't remember anything else from the dream other than Sip's rampant racism and the podcast editor's refusal to remove it. Thanks, Brian.

Wow. Gosh, Brian. So that was one of the earlier episodes. It was different time. Yeah, we've settled into a groove now. Well, you know, we edit our... Times were different back then, you know. It was 20, it was the heady days of 28, 17.

Yeah, Bill Burton was still on TV and, you know, it was just, it was just, it was cool to be racist back then, but things have changed a lot now. It was a different era. Trump was in charge. Oh, wait. Well, in 20, oh, yeah, of course, in 2018, were you talking about... 2016 was the first time. 2016, yeah. And we started, I think, in 2017.

Did we actually start in 2017? It was a different era. It was different era. I will tell you... We were allowed to say whatever we wanted, about anyone. TriForce Podcast. Oh, my God. TriForce, sought by videos.

This has been looked for before. The first Triforce podcast episode titled Sell Your Kids was released on March 23rd, 2016. Yeah, so 2016, sorry. So in fact, he had just been elected. Oh, actually, yeah, he'd just been elected, because he's It was 2016, so he would have been confirmed as president in January. Hey, listen, here are some details about the first episode. Title, Sell Your Kids.

Date, Wednesday, March 23rd, 2016. Content, the host discussed what to name the podcast and the best ways to raise children. We started off of the bank. I mean, nine years ago, I had a seven-year-old and a four-year-old. And now I have a 16-year-old and a 13-year-old. In 2016, I had. You should take whatever advice I had in that episode. Apparently, it got them thus far.

Yeah, I had a five-year-old and a one-year-old. And now I got a 13-year-old, a nine-year-old, and a four-year-old. Wow. I know. All right, moving on. American pilot. This is from an American pilot, believe it or not. Hello, I'm in the US.

I can't believe it. I know. And I'm a pilot, and I've been listening to you guys since the beginning. Thanks for keeping me entertained on long flights and layovers. In the most recent episode, you guys discussed why planes don't go faster from A to B than they usually do. since they apparently are able to. Remember that? We were like, they're like, we'll make up the time, blah, blah, blah. The answer comes down 99.9% to fuel.

Planes have a sweet spot in the power setting and altitude and speed to get the maximum fuel efficiency possible. Usually they can push it to get up an extra bit of speed at the cost of a much higher fuel burn. Pyrion had mentioned ATC routing as being a big cause, when in certain cases can be true, but overall, at least in America, ATC, that's air traffic control for you groundlings, It does not give a single shit if you are late.

You can, as a pilot, request more direct routing, and about 50% of the time they'll grant it, but they very rarely volunteer it upon you unprompted. As for the corridors into airports, at least in America, you have procedures called standard terminal arrival routes or stars. These to send you down out of the high altitude cruise down to an altitude to intercept an approach system,

either GPS or ground-based, ILS or visual. These can never be skipped to save time. You can, however, skip ahead in the sequence if you're low on fuel or an emergency, but being late is not a valid reason. Also, Sips asked if they carry extra fuel. Yes, usually enough to get to the airport to the furthest field, alternate airport,

and then an extra 45 minutes of cruising fuel. Nice. Sorry for the email, I tried to keep a simple. No, no, that's interesting, thanks. We did ask. We did ask, we wanted to know. It was a lovely picture of a cockpit that he's sent here. Would you like to see it?

Yes, please. All right, I'll pop it in the disclos. That is an interesting formula. So the fuel they carry is enough to get to destination plus the nearest alternate airport plus 45 minutes. That's if I've read his email correctly. I think that makes a lot of sense. You know, like, you ever had, oh, that is very impressive.

That's a nice cock. That's a nice huge cockpit. Nice cockpit. It looks like very comfy chairs, too. Man, I would be shitting myself if I had to fly a plane. I knew there was like 200 people on it or something. You can't see them. Yeah, but even though I would know, I would have like some awareness that I was in, I was

responsible, you know what I mean? Like, it would crush me. That goes out of your mind very quickly. First time I bet you ship yourself The thing is a lot of it is because they do so much training I think a lot of it must just be like I want to say muscle memory I don't know if it is actually muscle memory

but you know what I mean they're very familiar with what they're doing so maybe they don't think about it that much I still think you probably have to concentrate a lot though you know you got to have your wits about you especially if something God forbid goes wrong when you're up there Jesus Christ look at those seats

So those seats are really plush. I know. Let me just describe it. They look so cushiony and plushy, but they're shaped like a U-shape, almost, like a toilet seat. They've got a big gap in the middle where the, I guess, you're, is that where the eject fucking lever is or some shit behind between the seat? That's exactly what it's called as well. There's a label above it that says the eject fucking lever. Wait, so do you mean the white thing in the middle?

No, I meant between your legs. What's between your legs? Why is there like a V? That's like the manual flight stick. It looks like a microphone or something. If they need to manually, you know, control or pull up or something like that, they use that thing. You have to like shimmy backwards? I don't know.

There's probably like a little button on the bottom of the seat that slides it backwards. Wait, do you mean the thing that has 2,000 LXS and a circle in the middle? Is that what you're talking about? I'm talking about this. Look at the seat and why it has such a huge cut out of it. For their big cocks to dangle down, what do you think? For their genitals. For their...

It's not called the cockpit for no reason. Exactly. Get on with it. Next. Okay. All right. This is an email from Will. On the most recent episode of the TriForice mailbag,

you mentioned a story about a Hooters waitress selling her underwear, attached or screenshots of a time a random gentleman on Facebook, but messaged me after I posted in a student page. Also, for reference, so he's given me photos of the conversation that he had with this guy. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to read the left-hand side of the conversation. And SIPS, I'd like you to read the right-hand side of the conversation. Roger. It's like a reenactment.

Yeah. Yeah. So let me paste these in sequence of an online chat. Okay, I've got the first one. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me get these in order before we... Oh, right, there's multiple pages. Yeah, this is...

It's not that long. So you're reading the left and I'm reading the right side that's like blue-ish-purple. You're going to read the blue side and I'll read the grey side. Okay. Let me see, hold on. You can cut all this, by the way, sorry. No, you should leave it in. Also, let's make sure that there's some context so that we can't have this conversation

clipped out of context and people actually think that we have this conversation. or maybe use a different voice or something because, you know, we live in... I don't think that's a concern. And if it is... Well, I'm just saying, you never know, especially if it's like a little bit on the... I mean, I guess we probably have talked about.

So this is a real listener. So, yes, just for context of what this is, Will was messaged on Facebook Messenger, and this is the email, the series of conversations that he had. Okay. And Will is just a very ordinary looking lad. Okay. Will.

All right. I'll start, I'll start. I'll start. Do the first one. Hello. You good, bro? Sorry for the random message. Yeah, good.

Can I help you with anything? Maybe. Kind of wanted to ask you something a bit weird, crying smiley face. Go on. Are you in the Cardiff area? Yeah. Why? Okay, I'll ask you, but no judgment, yeah?

Because it's proper weird, crying, laughing face, loll. And don't be a dick about it. And like, if it's just no, say, in it, and we can move on with our days, loll? Just ask what you want to ask. Would you meet you? me and sell me your socks. Why? That's a very broad question, laughing, crying face.

I'm very unlikely to sell you my socks for whatever reason. Is this a society thing? No. More of a personal thing. Explain? Don't worry about it, bro. If you're not down, then you're not down. No point of me embarrassing myself further, crying, laughing face.

Why did you choose to message me? But also, I never said no, just curious. Because I thought you looked hot, crying laughing face. How much would you pay for my socks? It's more of a small but fairly regular thing, cash-wise, usually do about 30, 40-pound a time. Why don't you just buy socks? Well, it's not really about the socks, is it?

Crying, laughing face. I'm probably going to have to say no, mate. Hopefully you find someone else, though. Oh. And that's it. Now, that is, in all honesty, first of all, the lad approaching him is trying to be, he's trying to save face to make out like it's no big deal, but he clearly has a thing for using fellas' socks for whatever.

I mean, he's, you know, he's probably a gay lad who's into feet or smelly feet or whatever. No problem, oh, but just messaging someone out of nowhere, having this awkward conversation, oh my God, you must be so into socks if you're willing to expose yourself in this way. That is, I mean, honestly, that's embarrassing. Okay, so very funny. Is it basically a pair of socks per day? Are we talking about? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know if you need a new one every day. I mean, an old one every day. You'd want like an old, you could probably get away with it for a week or two before the stink, like, you know, gets out

or whatever, I don't know. Okay, so if he's paying 30 to 40 quid every time for a pair of socks, right? That's insane. Even if that was like, say, three times a week, 120 quid, you can buy close mate, women's, oh, sorry, these are women's. Okay, Soxie, 12 pairs, men's

cotton-rich sports socks. No, but, no, but, but it's not about the... It's not about the... The profits are insane on this. It's not really about socks, is it? He literally says it's not really about the socks. Because that's one of the questions that's asked is, why don't you just buy socks? It's like, it's not about the socks.

Man, if somebody's saying to me, I will buy your socks for 40 quid, I am saying yes, like immediately. That's too good of a deal to pass up. I'm not kidding. I think there are quite a few people out there who would pay good money for Sips's socks. The only thing. You can probably start an online store. Okay.

So in all of this, the thing that puts me off the most is, is not so much that somebody wants to be weird with my socks. The only thing that would put me off this is the effort I'd have to go to to package them up and then post them. That's what's putting you off. That's what would post me, put me off. Like,

if I could just put them in a container at the end of my driveway, I'm listening. I'll do it. Let's go. What the hell? Honey, did you put my socks out of the sock men come today? It's a big moneymaker.

That's all of our income right now. Make sure you don't forget. This is like a side business that goes around picking up dirty socks from everyone's houses and selling them online. But here's the thing, right? They want that. It's the person. It's clearly him.

It's like you're attractive. I fancy you. Right. Therefore I want your socks. But my weird thing is just, I don't want to have sex with you or anything. I just want to look at your Facebook pictures while I smell your stinky socks. Right, exactly. Yeah.

But I mean, it's also, this is a thing with. with trainers, like shoes, sneakers, right? Is that you can, you see a lot of those for sale on eBay, and there's always like a biography to go with the sock. Exactly. It's a story. It's always like this sock belonged to a young, sort of chavvy lad who would like to go out with his mates, and he dressed like this.

And that's like the fetish is the story behind the sock. That's really weird. Okay, think of somebody, somebody, a celebrity that you find really attractive, okay? Like, you, Dewey Herman. Pee Weirman. All right, imagine you. The girl who Pee-Wee-Herman fancied in the Pee-Wee-Hermann movies, when he looks at her tits. In Big Top Pee-Wi, when they had that, when they had that really long kissing scene in Big Top Pee-Wi.

She played Ramona in Hot Shots as well, if you remember. She was kind of like, she was kind of in everything for a little while in the late 80s. Louis-Ham and Hot Woman. Miss Yvonne, no. No, Miss Yvonne is in the show. Yeah, she was like the 1950s girl next door. Is this in Pee-Wee Herman's Big Top? Yeah, Big Top Pee-Wy.

She's the love interest in Big Top Pee-Wy. But she's been in loads of... She's been in loads of stuff. She was the woman in Hot Shots as well. Oh my God, she was so beautiful. Charlie Sheen. She was just the most beautiful, exalted creature. So you think she's beautiful, and you have a big crush on her, and you think the next evolution

in your fascination of this woman is you want to have a pair of her underpants delivered to you so that you can smell them and probably jerk off to them a lot. Okay, what if you, you, it arrives in the mail, the parcel arrives, and it's like in, in like floppy packaging, you're like, yeah, I know exactly what this is. And you're getting all revved up. You're like, man, I can't wait. I'm going to open this package up. You open up the package and there they are a pair of underpants in like a Ziploc bag.

And you're like, oh, great, I can't wait to pop open this Ziploc bag and get started. And you pop open the Ziploc bag and you're just like, wow, like, go. Oh, my God. Like it blows your head off. It fucking stinks. Like, it just stinks like fucking eggs or like some fucking rotten fish or some shit. Like, you would change your mind immediately, right? Like, there's no way.

Like, it would be the worst. Like, uh... Yeah. Do you know what? That's like your browsing for like, you know, some big tits or something. And then you accidentally see some really, really big tits and you're like, oh, I don't like this anymore. What are you talking about? Flax doesn't stop at that point.

Flax likes them comically large. He likes them real big. I'm like, oh, those are looking like she's injured herself there. That's not, you know, that must be a real burden

to carry those around. You know, and suddenly it's like, you're out of it, you know? And so, yes, it's,

I imagine, it's very similar. You could move on. You could so easily have a really bad experience there. I don't think it's worth the risk, honestly. Hey,

you can have bad experiences just go into the shop. You know what I mean? If somebody hearing a pair of my socks, It's like, they fucking stink. They must do. Yeah, you wouldn't want my socks. God bless that lad for taking his shop.

Yeah. Man eating animals. Takes his shop right into the sock, I'll tell you that much. Man eating animals. There's already some in there if you're getting mine. Oh, no. Stop it. Oh, that's an extra tenor.

Oh, yeah. A while ago, you discussed the deadliest animals on the Triforce, e.g. mosquitoes killing a million people annually. Recently, I was reading about a related topic you might find. Interesting, which is the deadliest individual animal. So these are named animals, okay? Not just species, but these are like, this is an animal, one animal. Adolf Hitler.

Like Adolf, but in animal form. Animal Hitler, all right? Animal Hitler. The Champawat tiger, a tigris that killed about 200 people in Nepal before being driven into India, where it brought his death toll to 436. What are you talking about it? It was trapped. No, they just tried to drive it off.

This is just a tiger. Into another country? Yeah, they drove it into India and then it carried on its spree. I'm surprised that didn't cause an international incident. Well, it was tracked by a hunter following the trail of blood from its last victim and killed in 1907, the Champ Womat Tiger. The Tasavo Man Eaters, a famous pair of lions from Uganda that killed dozens of people and inspired the movie The Ghost and the Darkness.

That's pretty cool. God, that would be an awful way to go out. Gustav the crocodile that killed over a hundred, 100 people in Burundi and is possibly still around. Don't say he's not. If you misbehave, Gustav the crocodile will come and pay you a visit. These, okay. I'm just...

Before you spoil this with logic and facts, just let me read about the Beast of Gavadian, possibly a large wolf in 17th century France that killed over 100 people. The King of France and local nobility were involved in raising expeditions to track down and kill the beast. It's not known exactly what the beast was, and it might have been multiple large walls.

Despite royal expenditure, they were eventually killed by Marie-Jean Vallet, the maid of Gavoudoir, who appeared the, who speared the Beast when it attacked her and Jean Castell, a local hunter. I feel like a lot of this has maybe gone in towards the fairy tale of beauty and the beast. You know, like it all seems like very... It's very French and like, you know, there's a lot of like hunters and like big macho men involved and stuff. Like, it's got to be, there's got to be some inspiration for Beauty and the Beast in there

somewhere, maybe. Wow. Don't ruin it, Lewis. All of those things are true and happened. Okay. All right. This is the world we live in now. Yeah, thank you.

All right, this is from Joseph Morris. This is a metal mailbag. All right. This is a metal mailbag song. I popped it in. It should be heavy to carry it around. Hey. All right.

We're going to play this. Ready in three, two, one. Play. It's the mail bag. That's quite nice. Oh, we should have opened for this. It almost sounds a bit grungy. The Belbank, Louis-Sept, Siberian Fox.

Yeah, it's like, it's like, like a, like... Yeah, it's like... Oh, like the kick pedal kind of makes it sound less so, but... Like the first bit sounds like a Melvin's song. I like it. Not the voice so much, though. though. TV. She asks, did I babysit them? And I always say, yeah, I did, yeah. Like, it's just a long-running

joke. So every Canadian person, I have babysat them at one point. I know them all. Yeah, it's one of those things. Bear, I've got another tune. And this is, I made quit jingle. This is a terrible song, apparently. Terrible attempt at singing. I listen to your podcast while I'm cleaning at work, and they make the time goodbye easier. My co-workers often ask why I'm laughing to myself. Oh, that's good. I'm glad that somebody's laughing. It's certainly not me. No, we don't enjoy it. I laugh a lot, actually.

This is from... Live, laugh and love, that's what I always say. This is an intro from Tom, aka Toverham. Nine seconds, okay, we're not going to be able to talk over this one. Right. Are you ready? Yeah. Three, two, one, play.

It's the Trifoss Melbaq, the Trifoss Melbaq. The Trifoss Melbag. Melbag. Very good. Very simple. In a word, dog shit. I said it was nine seconds. Actually, it's like.

three because it's just looped. Joe, I would struggle to it. Do you know how hard it is to strum and sing at the same time? Like, it's difficult. I would struggle. I don't know. A lot of people can do it. I actually, that's growing on me. Play it again. No, no, don't. You can play it as much as you want. It's right there.

Yeah, that was really good. Try force mailback. It's so whiny and annoying. You would like you. Dicket. Mailbag. This is for Rory. Shut up. This is for Rory.

This is 30 seconds long. Brand new jingle. Are you ready? Yeah. Three, two, one, play. Quit you bitching. It's the mail bag. Yeah.

This is more my style. Free dads. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. It's the mail bag. And yeah, we're stacking frags. Gotta grab your clock and load the mag.

Keep your story short so they don't drag. Lewis walking around in a doo rag. Hey. That is the worst thing I've ever heard I'm afraid you sound like you play League of Legends my friend you haven't got the voice for you can't do that

I thought it was okay no flow at all I don't know if it's meant to be in the email here he says this is serious you know that's hard to do as well he said this is very serious You need to I wouldn't be able to do that

I've changed my mind I love it I think it's great Do you know how hard it is to rap over like a sick beat like that It's tough When you're playing it It's well

It's the do rag Like the whole 90s Louis Brinley in a Two rag Free dad's Sounded like freedom Do you know I mean I like that

I like that bit At the start Yeah it's almost Like, it was a, there was something beyond the music, maybe, like a message, you know, of hope. Yeah. In this troubled time. It spoke directly to my soul in the ether, because I died. Good God.

Listening to that. This is from Harry called the Old Street Gashman scam, right? Which sounds like an album. Is this a song? No, this is not. This is a real email. It sounds like a Bob Dylan record. Yeah, it does.

The Old Street Gashman scam. This guy, Old Street, Gash. Old Street is a place in London, and the gash man, you'll find out, has a scam related to being covered in cuts. When I first moved to London as a country bunker, a man approached me who claimed to have just been knocked off his bike. He was bruised and bleeding profusely all over his arms and legs. He said he needed cash for a cab to the hospital, as an ambulance wouldn't take his bike, and it was his only worldly possession. I gave him a tenor and asked a few questions. He had semi-pausable answers, but it was, I was suspicious, even as a stupid villagey o'clock.

I started to hail down a cab He said his mum had already booked him one And this is when the penny dropped That it was definitely a scam I googled and found out a Reddit thread about him And apparently the blood is real It's not makeup And he surgically maintains cuts and bruises

And opens up a gash when he's short on cash Crazy guy That is pretty nutty Yeah The sad point is I don't stop for anyone now Even when most are probably just asking for directions Look Harry, you move to London You get hit by scammers

Here's the thing It's going to happen You're just you're paying for a bit of street theater there Right And that's probably work Like, me in, like, honestly, a man who, this is some sort of circus shit from the 19th Victorian times. What was that circus that was around in the 80s and 90s? It was really extreme.

And there were people who would cut themselves and, like, do all kinds of really extreme shit. I can't remember what it was called. Ringling Brothers. It wasn't. It wasn't Bonham and Bailey. Yeah, I can't remember. But there's, this is a thing. Like, that definitely was more of a freak show type thing where people would do horrible things to each other.

But this even seems like more extreme than that, doesn't it? I don't know, it's like you could, what I'm saying is, you know, you're lucky that you saw that, right? Because, you know, to put on a show like that, it would normally be very illegal or frowned upon in modern society. You'd like to see a bit of human blood flowing for entertainment, don't you? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's good that this stuff is in the shadows, you know, like the sock industry and all this. I'm wondering like, oh, God, it's just, it's best not to think about it. Indeed. Well, let's move on. Let's think about some of your bullshit from a previous episode, according to Charlie. Just want to call Lewis out on episode number 302. He said his dad had a long commute into London, which isn't the case. I live in Brentwood, which is the next town along from Ongar,

and the train takes 40 minutes into Liverpool Street Station. Ongar would have had a railway station back then when his dad would have commuted to London. Alternatively, he could have driven to Epping Station. Much love Charlie. Damn, Charlie. So... Well, there you go, Lewis. What do you have to say about that?

I'm looking it up. and the drive is according to, well, he worked in two places. He worked in Enfield, which is north of London, yeah. Apparently that takes... Wait, is he driving or taking the train? I think he drove. So actually, it looks like a 45-minute drive, which isn't as bad as I thought it was. No.

Maybe he was just staying away. Can I be real with you? I think he just wanted to avoid you. I think he was just... How late did he used to get home from work? Oh. Midnight. He'd roll in at midnight.

Oh, what a can you. Stinking a whiskey lipstick on his collar. Oh, another nightmare on the tube today. Didn't you drive? Yeah, well, that's the problem. Yeah, I tried to drive onto the tube. Let me tell you, not easy. They didn't like it.

Yeah. Question about how the OXCast grew and took on new members. Longer version. I'll try to keep it short. How have we recruited new members over the years? When was the last time we recruited a new member? Asking who? asking, let's say, let's say Lulu.

You started off, how did you acquire new people into the Ogg Scouts? Because we've got, we've had a bunch of new people in the last 10 years. In the last 10 years, but there hasn't been any new people like recently, I would say. Exactly. I don't know if that's true. How recently is recently? Well, like in the last five years, I feel like. Are you serious?

Yeah. I mean, I could be wrong, but. I believe you are completely wrong. I think the people who've joined most recently are probably Sophie, Miss Cupcakes. How long ago did she? I didn't even realize she joined. I just did a thing with her the other night. She's not, well, the thing is, a brand thing.

The thing is she's not. A live brand thing. There's no official, there's no official Yox Car. Thing is, right, Yoxcast, back in the day, the Yogs cast was obviously just me and Simon and, and our friends. And it was very easy for them to. But Duncan's been around since the start. He used to do like, uh, it was, he used to do like a lot of like behind the scenes stuff for you guys. Well, exactly.

And the idea was that we'd have. this sort of more group family approach to it where we could all sort of capitalize. Because the thing is, we had a huge audience back in the day because of the way YouTube worked. And it was largely undeserved. And a lot of the people were watching us and didn't like it or didn't understand it or we weren't for them. Or they wanted to watch something else or someone else. And that's why having a broader selection of people, like films are quite different in their comedy and their vibe. And so is Duncan. And so is Sips. Having a broader group of people allowed our audience to be retained better, right? Rather than just the, you know, Lewis and Simon

fans, there was, it was, it was a, it was beneficial to everyone, right? Whereas I think the Yod's cast these days is not necessarily attracting new audience and hasn't been a draw for a long time. And in a sense, I'm more concerned that it's, okay, think of it like a K-pop band, right? Like, you know these K-pop bands, the way they work is they are very manufactured, but also if someone is to join or leave, it's a big celebration and a big, it's a big, the way they actually do it is they are very careful when people leave because it could be very dramatic. It's like, it's like, if someone says, I'm leaving the Yolskast, that sounds so dramatic. It does, yeah. It's like, oh, why did you fall out? Like, they can get millions of views from that type of video.

Do you see what I mean? Like, almost as if, and it's, it feels very negative, right? And so if you have someone saying, I'm leaving a K-pop band, everyone thinks, oh, what did they do? You know, and it's very dramatic. So the way these K-Pop bands do it is they say, you've graduated. Congratulations, you're going on to better things now. We've trained you. We've had, you know, you're prepared for your solo career. You know, it's like, and we've done that for you kind of thing.

It's very strange and different. And so I've really shied away in the last 10 years from a inviting people to the Yoxcast or making a big fuss about people joining the Yorkscast or not, partly because we have so many people who are closely associated with us, who do loads of things with us and are in everything and a lot of things we do and are basically like Yorxcast members in all but name or officialdom. Would you say that I'm in the Yogscast? I think that I think I think yes.

Well, you're like in like the wider sort of. You're saying that reluctantly. Friendship group. But I think everybody that is pretty much, I feel like anyone that, any, anyone that does stuff with us that we record occasionally with or, you know, stream with occasionally could be considered like, you know, unofficial members. There's a lot of people that we are, we are friends with on the fringe like potato bit whiskey or Spiff or Dan, Artie Game or Simon Clark. You know, all these people, they contribute to jingle jam. They're really close friends of ours. We love to see them and they love hanging out with us.

You know, I'm personally friends with these people. Then none of them, I think, would necessarily even want to say they were in the Yogscast. Do you certainly mean? Yeah, they're officially not. Like, you know, they're part of other networks or whatever. Exactly. So someone more recent, like Sophie, you know, it's hard for me to say you're in the Yogscast. But I think what that means nowadays is that you are cooperating with us on projects and working more

closely with us. I don't think it means what it used to either. I mean, like when, during like when we were all doing tech and stuff like that, which I would say was probably like our peak, um, certainly the main channels was like a peak, but like all of us really, like that was those were like the like the biggest times for us or whatever. It probably meant something different, right? If you were joining the Oggs cast, you know, like, oh, I'm officially part of the Oggs cast because we were much bigger then, but like now, I don't know if if it's like that big of a deal to be... Well, this is it.

I think Sips is a great example of this, where Sips sort of isn't really part of the Yolkast anymore. I think you, in fact, Pyrin, are more closely associated with the Yorzcast and Sipsis. Well, I'm I kicked out? What the hell? Yeah, you're out, bud. It's funny, though, like, it is, like,

it's not that we... It's changed, right? We don't really... The Yorxcast is really a service company, and if you are part of the Yogscast, we're usually doing something for you. And in Sips's case, or your case, we're not really taking, you're not paying dues, you're not joining an association. No, we don't make anything.

No, we don't use any of your physical space. We don't use any resources, really. So there's no real reason for us to get a kickback, which means you're not technically in the Oscars. So it's like, I don't know, it feels like, but you are because you clearly have been. We're like honorary members, I guess, now. It's a strange blanket term. Even I'm not sure as the person who runs the fucking thing, what the rules are. But I think it doesn't matter.

I think it's always just been like a kind of like almost like a like a friendship community thing, right? Through games. Like we've always, a lot of us have all played games together and not necessarily all of us together at the same time. But there's little groups of people that overlap with each other and, you know, something comes along, like, you know, when it wasn't wow, it was like tons of played like Marvel rivals more recently or something, you know, there's always something that comes around that gets a bunch of people together again, but you, I tell you what you have these people on hand ready to go, you know, like, I can get in touch with Zilis and be like, oh shit,

have you seen this? Yeah, yeah, let's play. And we'll play. And then like, it's 20 other people play with us for like more weeks and then we're done. The Oxcast is like a loose association of avant-garde artists from around the world who come together to create art using feces, urine and other bodily excretions. So I think it is a complementary group of social people who want to be friends with each other and want to interact. And I think that you have to be, in order to be involved, you really have to want to do it.

And so someone like Sophie coming in very proactively saying, I love your content, can I be in it? I think I could enhance it. Here's the ways that I can, here's the things I can do. And just being asking, being interested, turning up, like wanting to do stuff is powerful. And we do meet new people that we get on with like No Rolls Bard lately. You know, they're really great people and they've been collaborating with us on Mystery Quest and some of the, you know, potentially Games Night, you know, other overlapping like friends and groups. Yeah.

And it's not that we're not meeting new people. It's just that we're not, it's not, I don't think it's the time to have a clan. necessarily. I've always found it very organic though. You know, like people that join, you, you, you, you, you don't, you're not forced to do anything with anybody, you know, like I've never been, I've never been asked to sort of say, no, do this with this person or whatever, you know, like, we, people join and you just, you find each other and, you know, you click or whatever. Like, I didn't know how it films before they joined. I had no idea who they were. Even after they joined for months, I didn't know who they were. I didn't watch any of their stuff or whatever. And then we just met up one day and we just clicked and did a lot of stuff together. Yeah, exactly. And you haven't probably seen them in real life for about five years. It's been a while, yeah. But we still do stuff with them every so often.

We can just jump in and pick up where we left off. It's like old friends, you know, it's good. Talking about the Yogska's more generally, I think, I always say this. Like, the reason the Yogs is still going is because of Jingle Jam. And like, it's a big driver of why I still care about it and turn up every day and put the effort because it is it is a big annual get together which is is useful isn't it but but also supporting this and helping this family of smaller creators you know who are struggling to make a living in an increasingly competitive and changing you know industry so it's it's tough for the some

of some of our creators and and like you know if we can we can support them um great we will and i think that that is something we want to do and, and I don't know, it's, it's about, it's about doing good. It's about mutual respect and love. And sometimes writing words in feces and sending each other. Did I tell you guys, one time I was on a school, I was on a trip with the Cub Scouts. We went up to London for something, probably the Imperial War Museum, because again, like I said, it's a paramilitary training organization. We all know that.

The Scouts. Yeah, the Cub Scouts, especially, the one for eight to ten years old. You've got to start a young. You've got to start a young. So as we're coming up, we stop at a service station, we all go into the toilet and someone has written shit in shit on the wall. And the whole room stack. I'd never seen anything like it.

And it was genuinely quite scary to know that there were people, adults out there in the world who would write the word shit in their own shit on a wall in a public bathroom. Pretty crazy. Let's move it on. This is from Jared. I was listening to recent try for us and I think it's great. We're not going to dwell on that moment. No, I think it's great that you're teaching your kids to be street smart and in

independent in big city of London. Yeah, like you learned. See, that was you learned to be street smart and independent from that moment. That opened up your eyes and took off the blinkers of childhood and the innocence. It all went away on that trip to the Imperial War Museum. I know. It really did. That was shocking.

I saw some negative comments. That's when you lost your hair. About the fact that I let my kids go into town and stuff by themselves. I don't know what you think being a parent is, but if you want to follow your kids around forever, they will never be able to do anything on their own. No. Ever. And they'll resent you for it too.

I assume you're not a parent if you're making that comment. Keep your fucking ignorance to yourself, please. How about that? This mailbox. Oh, yeah. This is from Jared. Dear person who wrote to the mailback. Fuck me.

I don't know. I think it's just the ways you can go fuck yourself. It's number one. I think it's safe to assume that maybe they don't have kids, but on the other hand, there are a lot of insane parents out there with kids and you just think, how the fuck. This lad is fine. Jared is fine. All right, I'm just saying, this other person I saw. Anyway, Jared recommends a book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker,

which sounds like a horror novel, but it's not. It's about interpreting your body's natural intuition, analyzing threats and managing stressful and high-risk situations. And do you remember I was talking about the fact that my daughter went to pick up a parcel? Do you remember? And it was down a shady alleyway. Yes. Oh, yeah.

And every fiber of her being was saying, don't go down the alleyway, but because of social norms and a fear of embarrassing herself or the person telling her to go down the alleyway, she went down the alleyway, which she 100% should not have done. This, by the way, was on the way home from school, which is not a long walk. And she was with a mate, and it was at like a regular shop. And she ignored her instinct.

And I told her very clearly, the next time this happens, listen to your instincts. They know best. And they will, those hairs go up and you think, oh, something feels wrong. Trust that vibe. Absolutely trust that vibe. Yeah, trust yourself 100%.

I think in everything as well. If you're wrong, you're wrong. And I'll come back with you and pick up the parcel together. It's not a problem. But don't just think, oh, I don't want to embarrass anybody, or I don't want to put him out. I think you end up kicking yourself a lot more if you go against your instincts. And if you trust them or not, and it doesn't work out. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. So, yeah, definitely trust your instincts always. I have an optician's appointment soon. So can we do one more email? Yes. Yes. I would love to hear your guys' opinions on this. This is just simple one.

from Josh. We often talk about how lucky we are to be in a position that we're in and the job that we do, because obviously it's a lot of fun and everything. But he wants to know if there is one downside or struggle that we face in relation to our job, other than ripped dips, as he puts it. So think of a downside to our job that you're like, that's actually the worst part of it. For me, it's more like a self-discipline thing, but I just don't exercise as much as I should. I should do a little bit at least, and I don't because it's so easy to become complacent in this situation because if I was if I was unemployed I would just sit around in game all day and right now that I can make money sitting around gaming all day I just sit around a game

all day yeah very rarely will I force myself to walk further than I absolutely need to like I walk my kids too and from school and I I do enough around like the house and stuff like that but it's it's not nearly enough it's not exercise yeah I really should just be going for a long walk every day or going to the gym or something. But yeah. But here's the thing. I think a lot of people fail to realize that when you love your job and you work from home

and it's fun, why would you just, like, when you go to the office, say, you fucking hate having to go to the office. You hate having to go to work. Going to the gym is a way to relieve tension and something to do on the way to or from work that is yours. It's like time that you're saying,

no, no, no, I'm not just going to spend my entire day commuting to working at and then commuting from someone. where I've also got stuff I do while I'm there for me. And one of those things is I go to the gym and I go maybe with some colleagues or my friends and that's a way to do something that is reclaiming some of that time for yourself. I woke up this morning at 9-57, sat down, recorded this podcast, then I'm going to go to the opticians and I have nothing to do for the rest of the day.

And I still know that I'm not going to do the smart thing and do some exercise. I'm just, it's just too easy to be lazy. Yeah. I need a harder life. Yeah. I'm cut off one of my one of my fingers. I'll cut that off. Self-discipline is a massive problem.

We are exactly the same as many people in this era where we are constantly being entertained all the time. And my partner's noticed this and sort of complained about it a bit in that I have to be doing something all the time. I go on a walk and I have to have a podcast on. I'm sitting at home on the sofa and I have to have the telly on or I have to be on my phone. And she's telling me about her day and suddenly like, you know, I don't even realize I'm doing

it, but I'm like on my phone. And she's like, what are you doing? Oh, that is rude. I'm, I'm, I'm so sorry. Like, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like terrible. It's like, terrible. With that with time as well. And I remember he even having this when I was, when I was younger, I used to play a lot of, uh, I used to play a lot of Diablo 2, um, when it came out. And, uh, around the time it came out, I was, uh, just starting college and stuff. And, uh, I remember, like, I'd wake up in the morning. I'd be like, okay, I have like six hours where I can play Diablo two before I have to go. And like, but like I'd be like, oh, is that enough time? Like in my, this in my mind, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, maybe that's not enough time. I like, I need some more or whatever.

And like, and as a much older adult, I still have, have thoughts like that. But like, it'll be around stupid stuff. Like, I'll be like, you know, oh, I got to pay my social security. Oh, fuck. I'm going to need to take like a whole morning to really like do that. And it takes, it takes like two minutes to do like it's so stupid but like in my mind i'll be like oh fuck it's gonna take like forever it's gonna take way more time or whatever because it's something i don't want to do but then if there's something i want to do i'm like i'm like really sort of like precious about the time even if i have like tons of time to do it i'll be like oh fuck that maybe that's not enough time or whatever i don't know maybe there's like uh it's like a like a very slight like uh i don't

know. Not like OCD, but like, I don't know. There's some sort of like weird anxiety around timings or something like that in my mind. I don't know. It's weird. We all have a little bit of that, right? And I think as creators, I think there's obviously, there is obviously, I think it's different for guys and girls. I think girls struggle with the idea more that there's some being famous is a peril in itself, right, with creepy people. out there and you know there's you're more likely to run into you know it's very low chance that you're run into any trouble but you're more likely than just an average person off the street but then again who knows like you know if you work in a cafe maybe that you have a stalker you know

it's it's not like it's not immune yeah but it's very different for women um but i think also like just there's so many little things about this thing industry that that people know from doing it well, we'll bother them. And it's, I don't know, it's just, it's not as, we can, we, it's hard to complain about, but. Yeah, I don't, I don't really have any, any, like, complaints. It's just, you, you're, you're, you're in your, you're, you're in your moment, right? You have your pyramid of needs and stuff. So, like, I'll complain about things that other people will say, oh my God, why is you

complain about that? But, like, you know, my, my, my, my day to day, especially if I don't stop and really think about it. My socks didn't arise. Yeah. How am I supposed to jerk off today? You know, if I'm just like in a... That's my afternoon, really?

If I'm in a flow and I'm not thinking about anything other than what I need to do or my immediate sort of what I'm doing or whatever, then, you know, I probably will complain about really stupid things that other people think are stupid. People that, you know, are at different points in their lives or whatever careers or whatever would... We'll complain about different things or whatever it's. Indeed. Everyone has their own... Can we stop? Yeah. Sorry, that's enough.

I'm so sorry. Sorry, go get your eyes. Go get your eyes tested. We will see you guys next time. Thanks so much. Thank you, everyone. We love you.