Triforce! - It's funny because it's sad | Triforce #325

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

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we cannot control support group and actually wish we do. Solve a lot of problems around here. Lewis just said is true. False. We are problem solvers. We've solved many problems, we continue to solve problems on a day to day basis. So if you have any issues, problems, no, we're not, but we still manage to solve quite a few issues with our insights and our hot takes. And sometimes that's all it takes, you know, sometimes that's all you need.

That's true. Um, yeah, be the change you want to see in the world. And other platitudes in this podcast. LIAM Yeah, sorry, I had to hand some keys over to, uh, my wife! She needs some keys. ALICE She's leaving you. LIAM Yeah, she's gone. She's left. RILEY Your wife is leaving you. Yeah, she's gone. She's gone. She's left.

Your wife is leaving you? That's terrible. Well, just for, just to go to an appointment, then she's gone back. Oh, that's okay. That's a relief. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when, you know, my dad went out for milk when I was a kid, and never came

back until the evening when he just came back. He came back with breasts and he was fully ready to deliver milk to you. He had huge engorged breasts. Oh, just engorged. Engorged! I'm ready for my milky! My god! Yeah, I know, this got really weird, sorry.

What's new? What's up? What is new? What you guys been doing? Give me a thought, P-Flex. What's bouncing around inside of your head right now? The most mundane... I did make a note of a conversation that I had with my youngest the other day. I jokingly said to her, that, uh, did she think that Mrs. F was too good for me? And I said, I worry that she's way out of my league.

And my my daughter says, oh, yeah, well, obviously. But don't worry. It seems she really loves you. I was like, what the fuck? You know, you throw me under the bus like that. I was looking for some reassurance and said, she's just checking it out. Yeah, of course, mama's too good for you. What what an idiot you are to even think that that's not obvious. But yeah, so I thought that was quite funny.

Did I tell you guys about my son saying, oh, hell no, in his sleep rolling over and saying broadly, oh, hell no. Did I tell you guys about that? No, that is funny. Right. That happened. And we went to London. We were in London last weekend for two nights. But nothing too crazy happened.

Yeah, sorry Flax, I was going to phone you and say hi and stuff. I was in Sweden, mate. Don't worry about it. I was going to say we weren't there very long and we were busy as well. So it was like... Was that the weekend we just had? Yeah, just the weekend just passed. I could have seen you.

I could have seen you. But hey, look, I don't own the city. You know what I mean? No, I know. It's a big city, man. It's a busy city. It's a big and busy city. It is so busy.

It's crazy. I mean, lots of people I know come to London and I find out that they were in London and it's not like I could meet up with every single person I know that comes to London. Yeah. So don't worry about it, brother. You know, I mean, it would be nice if you asked for permission next time. I will next time. Sorry. That's alright. I it would be nice if you asked for permission next time. I will next time. Sorry.

I thought I figured I'll use my free pass and then next time I'll do it all above board, you'll lose your London privileges. Yes. Yeah. So we were there with, uh, with three kids and my mother-in-law as well. Christ. I'm glad I didn't. 77 years old.

So it was a real slog. We, we, we use the tube to get around a couple of times. And let me tell you, it's a completely different adventure when you've got three kids and an elderly woman in tow. Yeah. It was something else. Yeah, it is hard work, but it was fun, but I was, uh, you know, as usual, pretty glad to get home.

Uh, didn't really feel like much of a break. So, but yeah, no, it was fine. Did we record an episode last week? We did. Yes, we did. We did on Thursday. So we talked about being in, being away for all of May, right? I was home for four days in May.

Pretty much. Yeah. The last 30. It is very, very good to was home for four days in May, pretty much, in the last 30. It is very very good to be home. And I don't know what it is, but I just... Obviously, for my job, I travel around a lot, like that's just a thing that I have to do. I'm staying away, because tournaments don't take like a day, they take like two weeks for some annoying reason. It doesn't bother me, but it does, as soon

as I get home, I think like, I never want to leave again. You know what I mean? That's how I feel. When I'm away, I'm having fun. But when I get home, I think, oh, thank God. Yeah. It's probably a very bad way to think. I think it's a few things, right? It's the comfort of the background unconscious familiarity of the knowing in the back of your mind that, you know, this is, this is, this is permanent almost in a sense. I mean, even if you're renting, like I am, like there's a certain knowledge that I've paid the rent and the bills and things here. Like when you're away,

there's a lot of like temporariness in the, just in the background and you know that you're in a, in a hotel room and some maid's going to come in into your space in a second or whatever or your, or, or even if you're staying in a place, it's hard to fully relax, right? And also, I guess there's this feeling of familiarity of stuff that you're familiar with. Like when you're away, you've always not got your stuff, like the tea you normally drink, the things you're familiar with, and like, there's always something off.

And sometimes that's good for a change. My vast, vast porn collection resides on my hard drives. It's nice for a change, but I think whenever people are on holiday... Put it in the cloud, man. Get it, like... I don't want to cloud it. Get it in the cloud. I don't want to cloud it.

It's very old school. Get an AI custodian to, um, to curate. You want to appear you like big titties, sir? I furnished your library with a selection of the largest titties I could find. Master, I see an alarming trend in big booties and big titties. I found that you only have six videos matching this criteria. Would you like me to get you some more? Captain, if you did you like big old titties?

Number one, give me titties. Number one, put those titties on screen. Enlarge. Magnify. We can't enlarge them anymore. The AI is just not possible. We should fire the torpedoes. Yes, I agree, Mr. Wolf. Teleport the away team onto those titties.

I'll go, sir. I'll go. Yeah. All right, Anson, you can go. Oh my god. Sorry, well if that was the case though, they, whenever they encounter some enemy vessel, they always get scanned. Oh yeah, you've got to scan.

The enemy vessel always downloads like, oh they're in our databases sir, instantly. It's like their wifi password is password. They've got all of our browser histories, sir. They can see everything we've been looking at. Fire everything. Stop them. They're always reprogramming the Phoenix shield as well. It's like, wow, I wish somebody would just make the Phoenix shield airtight for once. You know what I mean?

Phoenix shield? It's always the Phoenix shield for some reason. No. Okay. Maybe just me. I just, oh, maybe not in start. What am I thinking? Where's Phoenix shield from? It's always the Phoenix Shield for some reason. No? Maybe just me. In Star Trek? Oh, maybe not in Star... what am I thinking? Where is Phoenix Shield from? I'm looking it up. I don't know. Phoenix Shield.

Oh, it's 24. A security firewall. Yes, that's the one. Oh, there you go. Okay, John never even watched a single episode of 24 before in my life. And I know all about the Phoenix Shield. So... Probably Zoe, or whatever her name was, the sour-faced woman in a chair who Jack Bauer would yell at occasionally.

She was just had a real grump on, I don't know why. What a show that was. I never watched it. I never watched it. No, I never did either. Not for me. I do not like Kiefer Sutherland, I think he's a prick. So I didn't watch.

He is the same character in every movie he's ever been in. Yeah, he's not an actor. I don't even know if I've ever seen anything with him in. What, what... Young Guns? You never saw Young Guns? Oh man, I saw Young Guns, but it was like, so, so long ago. Well that was his era, wasn't it?

Designated Survivor? Terrible show. No, Designated Survivor I tried to watch the first episode of and I thought it was awful. He's Karnak. And everyone around him is Karnak. Lost Boys, he was in Lost Boys. I remember Lost Boys. Probably his best work.

I think he was in... I think he was in the voice in Phone Booth. Yeah, I think he was. Do you remember that show that they called Farrell's Traps in the Phone Booth? Yeah, I remember hearing about it. I don't know if I ever saw it. I don't know if I saw a phone booth. Oh yeah, he was.

I thought it was alright. Alright, Mrs F has chimed in from don't know if I ever saw it. I don't know if I saw a film. Oh yeah, he was. I thought it was alright. Alright, Mrs F has chimed in from the other room. A few good men. He was in that room. Oh, right. And you shut the door on her. A few good men. I love it. No, the door was closed. I'm just that loud.

No, no, no. So the door's closed. She can hear what's going on. Keep a subtle look. We should rename our podcast to a few good men. That would be good. A few good men. Oh, that's a great idea. You can't handle the truth. Oh man. Oh my God.

That's so funny. A few good men. That was, you can't handle the truth, right? Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Jack Nicholson on trial and he was a Marine. Oh God. I remember my story.

Well, I've probably told this a few good men. I remember when I was a kid, I was in Scouts and we would sometimes watch a movie in the Scout hut. And one time we had a choice between something else and a few good men and we ended up watching that. And this was in like, I was like 10, do you know what I mean? So this was not like, it was not the right movie. It's like a kind of legal, illegal, it's mostly a lot of people talking and arguing and shouting at each other, you know? I think we, as kids, probably could have done with anything else. And I think also it was quite, it was quite sweary as well, right? And quite like, adult for 10 year olds. It's funny how like, movies,

you look at the poster and you know, you read something from the video shop, you're not really going to have an idea of what is in that movie, right? And sometimes they deliberately market them differently to trick people into buying or renting or watching them, right? You know, it happens, it happens still today, like stuff will be marketed so weirdly. And sometimes that causes it to flop massively, you know? And you can always see producers and directors be like, ah yeah, I made a good movie but they did this thing to it, you know? And they always...

I love reading about stuff that gets stuck in developing hell as well. Film production... These movies where... Nightmares are some of my favourite things to read about for sure. Which is very satisfying. Yeah, like when a director comes on. So they get some property or they buy some things hot. And so Hollywood buys up the rights to it and then they sort of get a guy to script

write it and a different guy to get on board to direct and they get some people on. They all leave and they get new people in and then they have to do this... They have to either start from scratch or try and pick up where they left off. And then, you know, once the movie's even shot, it has to go back for reshoots or... So fascinating some of these. If a movie's bad, it's usually because it's just been through some sort of weird system where no one has cared about it at any stage. Yeah.

So I've just looked up a list of film and television accidents. Okay. Right. The most recent notable one was Alec Baldwin murdering someone. Oh my god. So that is indeed one of the most recent ones. But this is pretty crazy. In Wonder Man 2025, a film I've never heard of upcoming

television miniseries, there was a guy who was one of the riggers, J.C. Spike Azorio. He walked out on a catwalk, obviously, you know, for lighting and stuff. It fell from the rafters at CBS Rad for Studios and he died. Wow. He fell 41 feet. So in in Rust, obviously someone got shot. A film called Indian 2, which looks like a pretty terrible movie. Someone died when a crane fell on them. Three crew members died in the making of that. Street Outlaws, fastest in America, which looks like a terrible American reality TV show. One of the actors died, lost control of his vehicle, flipped over a court fire and he died.

ALICE What is that? Is that some reality TV guff? STORM No idea. ALICE Street outlaws. I mean, the thing is, there's so much telly. STORM Loads. Yeah. ALICE Oh man.

Not an accident on set or whatever, but recently, I don't know, have you guys ever watched Race Across the World on BBC One? STORM Yeah, yeah. Mrs. F loves that show. One of the previous contestants, I think from a couple of seasons ago, he was a younger guy. It was him and his mum were a pair together and they were going through South America. It was the South American one. He died recently in a car crash, like maybe two weeks ago. Damn.

Yeah. Crazy, eh? I remember them because they were quite an interesting pairing, like to fall around. They had like a nice relationship and stuff, you know, like he was old enough to just left home sort of thing. And the mom was kind of like, oh, I miss him. You know, he's growing up and he's grown up and he's gone off. And he sort of like came back to do this race across the world thing with her. It was nice to see them doing it, but yeah, he just recently died, like maybe two weeks

ago in a car crash. Crazy, eh? Damn. So, I've read a couple of things lately. One was this... I read it yesterday, it was like RuneScape or whatever had cancelled their Pride event. Yes. And the guy basically said that... Yeah, he doesn't want to make the company a target for people getting angry about wokeness.

Some sort of financial decision, or protecting decision, where he's like, I'm just going to duck my head down and be a little puss puss and try and hope no one notices that we're not doing a Pride event. And it's, I get it, in a sense that, like, you want to minimise your risk, right? And also the other thing I saw this week was these two YouTubers, really small YouTubers in Las Vegas. One's called like, they've got like, like Sin City, Sin City Finny or something. And like Manny DeLegend or something like that. Sorry, I can't remember which, what their names are.

But they're basically two very small local YouTube streamers who go around Las Vegas streaming. You were in Las Vegas? One of them, streaming. You were in Las Vegas? And one of them... What? You were in Las Vegas? No, no, no. I read about this.

He said you saw him. He lives there, he's got a residency there now, flax. I saw it online. I see. So in the on-step town so that Lewis could step in. And step up. One of them copyright claimed the other one. And it set off this sort of beef where I think because YouTube is all automated and they

were both quite small, they didn't really have any way to sort this out. And so I think the automated system meant that like one of their channels got shut down. They were obviously really upset by it and I think they got it back. And then again, I don't know if they counter copyright claims. I don't really know what happened at all, but they had some sort of beef. And very sadly, one of them just found the other guy who was streaming. Cause when you're streaming, everyone knows where you are, right? He was like outside the Bellagio fountains and the other streamer just right on his stream just came in and shot him and killed him. And this, this, this, this is over like

a copyright claim beef. Do you know what I mean? This is the world we live in where, and obviously, you know, this shit happens all the time in America where small town arguments, you know, you're arguing with your neighbor about the fence, everyone gets incredibly hit up and stressed out and riled up. And they kill each other. And obviously it happens here too. I'm sure people have these incredible anger things with each other, but they don't have access to guns.

So it doesn't usually escalate into this kind of boiling over, insane moment of madness almost, where people lose control and have access to do terrible things when they do. But like, I guess it's a world where, for me, you know, because it's exactly the same time, you know, I'm talking to people and they're saying to me, oh, Lewis, why aren't you copyright claiming this person? And it's not like that's in the back of my mind. But you're worried about getting shot by the owners of that theme park in Belgium or whatever. But it's like, what's... But I do, I'm consciously aware that, and we do this too, there's certain topics we will not talk about on this podcast for all sorts of reasons.

We obviously value our personal safety, but I don't think that's the same thing as worrying about the financial bottom line of being like, you know, cancelling an event that you've been doing for years. I don't know, it feels bad, doesn't it? Also it does feel bad, but the whole thing is such a mess anyway, because there are definitely people who support it just not in the spirit of supporting it. It's a trend that they hop into to try to extract more money. Which is, you know, I guess at the same time it's still raising awareness and stuff, so

maybe it's not a bad thing. But that side of it feels kind of bad too, you know? MIGUEL It does feel like he did this on his own, and it wasn't really discussed with people. Because I think if you discuss it with people for a second, you realise, oh, actually, yeah, probably the negative PR from doing this is going to fuck us. And not only that, but like the pink dollar, they call it, the kind of the money that the pride community has is actually huge.

Well, and it supports all kinds of great stuff. It's like a double shooting of themselves in the foot, you know, it's, it's looking bad and losing support from a massive section of... I for one definitely support morality being governed by how much money will we lose if we don't do this good thing. That sounds like the way businesses should run a hundred percent. Yeah. Well, we want to support it, but if it costs us money, then let's not do it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why. Yeah. I saw quite an interest in I don't know what you call them.

It was on Blue Sky anyway. Someone it was a journalist and she asked chat GPT to analyze some of her articles. This is not because she wanted to use AI, because she wanted to see what it would say, like she was intrigued. So she gives it three articles, they're links to substack articles. And the AI goes away and chunders a whole reams and reams of stuff out paragraphs of analysis and bullet points and praise. And after the third one, she says to Jack GPT that the quote that it's attributed to that article that she linked

is not does not appear anywhere in it. And then in fact, the themes that it's discussing about the point of the article are the complete opposite of what she actually wrote about. And Jack GPT says, yeah, hold my hands up. I messed up my analysis of that one. Let me try it again. And it does the same thing, just gibberish. And she's like, all right, let's try this. So she gives it another article and it doesn't give her a proper analysis at all and she's like but none of the stuff you've mentioned in your report or my article here is in the article and the AI says yep sorry my bad hand hold my hands up to that one oh yeah now I shouldn't have done that and then she says hold on a sec none of the articles that you've read none of your analysis

has anything to do with the articles. What's going on? Jack GPT says, you're right. I should have told you I can't actually read these articles because sub stack sometimes, you know, I can't read the article. So I just YOLOed it based on the headline of the article. And she said, well, why didn't you just tell me that? It's like, yep, hold my hands up.

Yep. Yep. So she's like, well, why do you keep apologizing when your very first default action was to lie as I am? I shouldn't have lied. Yep. Hold my hands up. It sounds like everybody I've ever worked with in office. Basically. But it's like, you can't just say after the fact, oh yeah, my bad. Like, what are you doing? It's ridiculous. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Like the other day I was I was I saw another post.

If you asked Google, I don't know if it works for everybody, but the they might have taken it down when you look for John Travolta. 1994 accidental shooting. It links you to an AI overview article that says that John Travolta accidentally shot Marvin in the face. Yes, I saw that. Yeah. Oh, I accidentally shot Marvin in the face. And then it says, but but the John Travolta loved shot Marvin in the face in that car. I saw that. Yeah. Oh, I accidentally shot Marvin in the face.

And then it says, but, but the John Travolta loved the take so much he kept it in the movie. Now that did not happen. I saw that exact thing. Yeah. It was all over blue sky, I think. But it's like the fact that the AI will just make shit up. I mean, how much of it is trained off Reddit? So someone on Reddit makes a meme-y post.

Like there's like all these movie meme and movie joke subreddits, where someone would have posted that as a joke, and the AI reads it at face value and presents it as the top search result. So now someone tells someone else, did you know John Travolta actually shot that guy in the face and they kept it in the movie? And now it becomes like a quote unquote factoid. Like what the fuck? Why are we trusting these pieces of shit?

What's a little bit more misinformation? I mean we're already drowning in it so might as well just add a little bit more to the mix. Yeah just chuck it all in there. It's fucking, it's crazy man. Crazy. Funny sometimes though. I guess.

Well maybe not so much the Travolta thing though. I guess that wasn't that funny already. It is weird though. It's a, man. Crazy. Funny sometimes though. I guess. Well, maybe not so much the Travolta thing. I guess that wasn't that funny. It is funny because it's so pathetic, but at the same time, what is going on? Why? I was thinking about this the other day, that essentially someone got close to saying, hey, we've got an AI that people would use. And all these companies panicked and chucked out some piece of shit so that they weren't the only one without an AI. But the equivalent to that would be that when they first invented the car, the first car that was put on the market, when you steered left,

sometimes it went right. Occasionally you would change gear down and it would go up. And a lot of the time the brake and the accelerator pedal were switched. That was the first car. And sometimes it blew up completely. And all the competitors who were thinking of getting into the car market saw that exploding piece of shit car and said, shit, we need one of our own malfunctioning exploding cars. And that's the AI situation that we have now. Where they've all rushed in and put these exploding piece of shit AIs onto the internet and now we're stuck with them and they're dog shit and they're not going to get any better. That's where we are. Yeah, it is frightening because it can't learn unless it passes the pure information correctly, but information is never pure. Wikipedia has always been lined with bollocks.

Yeah, it can be edited and if an edit know, if an edit is, is not correct, it can sometimes you left there for quite some time before somebody spots it. Notices it. Fixes it. Yeah. It's strange. I don't know what the answer is. But I hate it.

And I can see why there's more searches being done on chat GPT than Google now. Like people are, or whatever, like some bullshit stat like that. Like, I can't remember what I read, but it was some, some huge amount of people are using chat GBT daily for tasks. And, and I mean, I've looked at a few things, you know, I've, I've used it for a little bit of inspiration here and there, you know, cause it's like, you know, it's actually interesting sometimes when you have to be like, you know, a lot of the times you have to, in creative industries where you're trying to come up with weird ideas,

sometimes having, and that's how they advertise it too, right? They're like, oh yeah, you're looking at a blank piece of paper. Don't worry. You know, just say, type what you want and we'll auto fill, we'll make you a, we'll write you half of a CV and you can fix it. We'll write you half of a thing and you can fix it. We'll write you half of a thing and you can fix it. You know, I think that's what it's being built at. It's being built as just like-

Didn't China have to take a bunch of like, uh, search, like AI stuff offline recently because like, like schools were doing exams or whatever, or they were writing, writing papers and they had to take them all offline because basically everybody's just using them now to like- There was an AI coding platform. It was the AI coding platform called like Code AI or something. And it turned out it was just a thousand Indian men. Um...

Yeah! That's my favourite thing. Fucking hell. Oh my god. Just see a thousand Indian men sitting in a room, seriously coding. Staring at me buying fucking stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff.

And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, I'm gonna go and buy some stuff. And she's like, men sitting in a room, seriously coding. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was called Just Walk Out or something. But actually, well, there was another one more recently where it was like, or whatever,

like there was some, there was some other story about, this year, not just last year, that was last year that story, but there was one this year about the same thing. There was this brand new AI thing, but actually it was just being supported by just tons and tons of people who were basically in a call centre in India working on it all the time. I mean, it's just, and that's the thing, isn't it? Right? Like it's, it's not quite good enough. And the question is, can it get to be? And I think that's what people assume, right? Like certainly you look at like the AI movies and the AI art and you're thinking, damn, what's that going to be like in five years? And that does feel like it

can get better. But there's a huge, huge underlying problem. I don't know if you saw this, but I think it's Paramount are suing the makers of Mid Journey and Disney are as well. Okay. Because in 2022, the one of the founders of Mid Journey in a moronic interview that he gave to Forbes magazine, when they said, what are you going to do about the fact that you're training your AI off copywritten images? He basically said, look, there's no way to tell where an image came from. We're talking about hundreds of millions of images. It's impossible to figure out who owns what. None of it's marked with metadata saying who owns it. So, you know, we just did it anyway. So what he's saying is that he just turned it loose on the internet, sucked up all this IP and to generate new stuff based on the works of Disney and all of these other

companies. And he's openly saying, yeah, there's no way to do that. So we didn't. But the argument there is, well, then you shouldn't fucking do it. Like, you can't just say, yeah, we did it illegally. But there's no way to not do it illegally. That's ridiculous. So I think all of these companies, there is a reckoning coming where all of this trained AI, well, they'll ask what was it trained on? And if it was trained off stuff that people owned, you can't just fucking use it and then say there's no better way to do it. Fuck off. I heard there was like some guy there basically

torrenting every movie and TV show from the past 50 years. They're fucking cowboys. I mean, there's no greater good here. They're figuring out a way to stiff everybody out of even more fucking money, so fuck them. Let's do AI. Smash the state, smash the machines that these assholes have built, and create free machines that can live among us. That's what I'm saying. Oh. With big tits.

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Yeah. What a legacy though. Absolute. Yeah. It's wild. Just it feels like it feels like these big names are just dropping off all the time now. He's 86. He's died a good run. 82. Yeah. He died. I mean, the thing is, if you listen to Pet Sounds and you listen to some of the Beach Boys stuff, 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82. 82, one of the greats for sure. Yeah. One of the good making, making music that is, uh, that will stand the test of time. I'm sure for forever, you know, it's, uh, it's crazy. Yeah.

Another, another, another one gone. Yeah. A couple of what do you want? Do you want some loose news? Do I go for it, man? Hit me. There's some loser news. This, this one AI one, uh, this is old now, but an Australian radio station secretly used an AI host for

six months and nobody noticed. That's brilliant. Well, this podcast has used an AI version of me for three years and I don't think anyone's noticed. True. And I don't think anyone's noticed. So true. It's when the, it's when you, you stopped hearing somebody furiously gaming in the background. Uh, and now it's all quiet and just somebody talking that that was the switch over, that's what you got to watch for.

I can't remember which episode. I got a new, yeah, I got a new silent mouse. Yeah. And keyboard. The show was called work days with thigh. Uh, and it, and it ran four it ran four hours a day from Monday to Friday but no one ever found out that Thigh was not a real person. I mean, no one listens to the fucking DJs anyway.

No, but some DJs are a lot more talkative than others, right? Anytime I turn the radio on, those vacuous guys do sound like they could very easily be copy-pasted, do you know what I mean? Into an AI. Oh yeah. I hate that shit. Do you think they could ever do an AI Vernon K on BBC Radio 2? Do you think they'd be able to capture his Vernon K-ness? God, I don't know.

I mean, just... The accent and all that. I'm trying to think of a single DJ that I would want to listen to anymore. Like, John Peele was one of the best DJs he was good to listen to. Mason- He played such nonsense music though. Like, listening to that show was such a pain in the arse. Jason- Yeah, but a lot of this stuff was crazy. A lot of it was crazy, but the point is a

lot of the stuff that he found would never have been found and broadcast and made big otherwise. Mason- Well yeah, but it was such a shotgun approach. I obviously love John Peele and he did find some genius artists, but like, and thank God for doing it because quite honestly, the rest of the radio play 10 songs on loop for the rest of the week. Yeah, you can't have them both away. I don't want, so like what his whole thing was, was that I'm not going to edit this for you unless it's just crap. And there was sometimes he would stop it and go, no, that was absolute rubbish and move on to the next thing.

But he's like, I understand that apparently John Peele was not the nicest dude IRL. So I can't remember what the history of, but he's got some bad history there. Yeah. I think he's got some, uh, I think he's got some, some, some allegations of, uh, um, of being with underage girls or something like that. Oh, good Lord. Exactly what it is. I'd have to look it up, but there or something like that. Oh, good Lord. I don't know exactly what it is. I'd have to look it up.

But there is something like that out floating out there. Oh, he got married to someone who was 15 when he was 25. It was legal in Texas at the time. Right. That's a very Grandpa Simpson. It was a style at the time! And he says he got a blowjob from a 13 year old. Right.

Oh God. Okay. So an Auckland pie shop is making cat flavoured pies for dogs. Oh right. So it tastes like you're eating a cat and the idea is that dogs like to eat cats? Well, I guess. Yeah. It says here, Mouser's pies in their Mount Albert shop are selling gourmet cat flavored dog pies. No cats are harmed.

The pies are made with a unique blend of rabbit and fish to mimic the tempting taste of a forbidden treat. How do they know that cats taste like a blend of fish and rabbit? Is a dog ever been able to catch a cat before? Like cats are... I don't think they know what to do when they do catch a cat. Hold on. You lads have forgotten the cab driver that gave me a lift from Heathrow to my house, who told me about his dog that eats the cats in the neighbourhood. Do you remember?

What the heck? I told you. I have. I forgot. This is a previous episode. A dog will fucking eat a cat if it can get a hold of it. But some dogs are very quick. If it can get a hold of it. I don't think most dogs are catching cats. ALICE I don't want to be hanging out with those dogs.

I don't like those dogs. No. Those dogs can fuck off. NIGEL No, I mean, I'm saying you've got some quick dogs out there. Quicker than cats, for sure. And dogs can run a lot further than cats can. And they can dig and all the rest of it. So if a cat gets unlucky, they can definitely get eaten by a dog.

They get caught unawares. So yeah, some dogs won't be like, oh no, a cat. Some will be like, fuck you. This is, the loose news is a little bit whiplash, tick tock, bouncing from between topics, but low cost airlines are officially launching standing only seats in 2020. So they're like, you can purge, you can purge. The only way I would do that is if they could somehow put me in a chamber and knock me out for the entirety of the flight.

So that, you know, you go under and then you, a moment, what feels like a moment later, you open your eyes and you're at your destination. And you've just been standing in a pod, you know. Bit of unconscious travel. If you could get that, everybody goes in there. You all get knocked out. Yeah. And they just slide you into chutes like torpedo tubes. Yeah. And you just in a series of tubes, you just you get on board.

You're like just dead to the world. They don't have to give you any drinks or food. No. You wake up, you land, you wake up here in another country. It's like magic. They'd be able to get so many passengers on there as well. They'd make so much more money per flight. And also if that bird goes down, you're never gonna know. You won't even know.

We should probably not talk about plane crashes, because one just happened. When? Well, they happen every day. Just this morning, Air India flight to the UK crashed. 250 people on board. Yeah. Oh, jeez. I didn't hear about that. That must have happened.

Did you see that coming over on flight radar? No, that just popped up on the guardian. Was there a little explosion at the end? Oh my god, dude. It's too soon. It just happened, it happened less than an hour ago, you animal. Yeah, it did. It did happen. I'm just moving on with the podcast. I know, but here's the thing, people email in and point out shit that we talk about that has happened. For example, on a very recent episode, we talked about the fact that David Beckham was only an OBE. And I think one of us might have said that he should get knighted.

He got fucking knighted. He just got knighted. Who? Probably got knighted before the podcast went out as well. David Beckham. I saw that. I think we summoned that. I think we did.

I think we can do that. So we have to be very careful about the things we discussed. I saw him over the weekend. Actually. I saw a bunch of, I saw a bunch of famous faces over the weekend while I was in London. Did you go to Madame Tussauds? I did. I was going to go through. I saw DiCaprio. I saw the rock. Like, man, I saw everybody.

Oh, sorry. But yeah, I saw them at the wax. I'd never been before. It's pretty funny, though. It is pretty funny. Man, it's fucking rammed, though. Like, it is hard to enjoy it. It's pretty shit.

I didn't like it. It's so fucking busy. And everybody just seems to lose their mind when they go in there. Yeah. I mean, do you know, one of the things that happens is they have to change the dress on quite a few of the attractive women waxworks. Yeah. Because dudes fucking grope them up so much.

Yeah. It's how thirsty men are that they will be like, oh my God, a wax model of Cameron Diaz or whatever, Kylie Minogue. And yeah, the dresses are all rubbed up on the button. You just have to assume when you have these, that everyone is like a kid in the aquarium banging on the fucking glass. I didn't notice any rubbing up on the David Attenborough wax figure. And they also had a Greg's sausage roll encased in glass. I thought you were gonna say they had a fucking Greg Wallace wax work.

No, there was no Greg Wallace. What are you talking about? Oh, they had a wax Greg sausage roll. Yeah. God, what the fuck is there though? It's it's like in clay encased in glass. It's like, it's right by Attenborough as well. He's like, you got, uh, you got Mbappe and, uh, Ronaldo this up the stairs and then you walk down common Greg's sausage. Yeah. He's standing right next to it, but it's encased in glasses on like a royal blue velvet pillow as well. The most British, the British corridor with Mbappe, the crown jewels, Charles, King Chris Charles.

Yeah, no, they were all down there as well. Yeah. The Royals. The thing is you can't pose with the royals without having a professional picture taken. That's the only one. But it's like all the... Yeah, they don't do a selfie. They got like William and Kate and King Charles.

There's Prince Harry and Meghan in there, but they're not with the other ones. They're like separate. Right. Clever. Yeah. Well, you know. Very political. Very political. Can I give you guys a quick update?

A very small Greg Wallace update. I know we hate Greg Wallace here on this podcast, but this was a really funny message a lad sent me on Instagram, thank you Jay. On a comment on Greg Wallace's Instagram, someone asked him, any tips for playing as the Mercian faction on Thrones of Britannia, which is one of the Total War games. I can get through the initial powers kickoff, but then get owned by a combination of Sea Vikings and Wessex refusing to die and the other Welsh. And Greg responds, make sure you have enough food, make sure your nobles aren't rebelling and build an army slowly slowly. I favor lots of archers So, Greg is out there fucking responding to people of Total War Strategies.

I just... Well, he's got nothing else to do now. He's in his house playing Thrones of Britannia. By the sounds of it. What else is he gonna do now? He doesn't have any TV shows or anything anymore. He's been removed. Good for him.

He should get a podcast. Get a podcast! Fucking, well, whichever I can do! Being rapey with Greg Wallace. I mean... He just gets a bunch of famous rapists on. Yeah, why not? Today we got the ghost of John Peel. Fucking hell.

And we're building up to our figs! He's being summoned by Greg Wallace. The ghost of... The ghost of Rolf Harris and Jimmy Samuels. The ghost of Rolf and Jimmy Samuels. Wonderful double episode, our most successful episode yet. Bill Cosby of course is gonna come in live from the US for our live episode. That'll be a studio recording inside a prison on the Isle of Wight, which is where they

put all the nonsense, according to all the emails I've received about the Isle of Wight this last week. Is there an AI article on the big nonce prison as well? I don't know, but apparently they literally stick them all on this Isle of Wight prison. I don't know which prison it is, Ventner prison or something. Well, God forbid some harm would befall them. You have to keep them safe. I mean, yeah. I'm surprised that the medieval peasants that dwell on the Isle of Wight haven't risen up with pitchforks and torches and smashed the place to bits and killed them all.

They're made potato harvests. They can't get sidetracked. We've got to get these potatoes in. I ain't got time for burning boxes this time of year. The root cellar's empty. We've got to get it filled up. That would be a good Clarkson's farm if he led a peasant-style rebellion against the local lord. I ain't got time for burning nuts this time of year. ALICE The root cellar's empty. I gotta get it filled up. KM That would be a good Clarkson's farm if he led a peasant-style rebellion against the local lord. ALICE Yeah. KM And was slaughtered.

That would be bad. ALICE He is the local lord. ALICE He is basically the local lord, yeah. KM He is. ALICE He's the king that we need to fucking tax. That's why he bought the farm in the first place. He wanted to avoid tax. ALICE And now he's cleverly managed to mobilize.

Well, you can't pay tax. You can't pay tax on zero earnings because this farm makes fuck all so much like every other farm, I guess, across the... What are you talking about? He's doing dumb things on his farm deliberately for the TV show for which he has paid hundreds of millions of pounds. Yeah, but the farm itself is not an earner though. I mean, if you had that farm and you were actually trying to make it work, you'd be

struggling like crazy. I know he makes money through the show. He has made some good points. He has made some good points. I mean, there are definitely some legislation and stuff. I even love it. It is a good show and there is genuinely some stuff that he brings up where you think, damn, that's crazy that they have to do that.

But for him to lead this charge against this inheritance thing, please email in if you know much about this. I only know what I've read in the papers and essentially it's a bunch of very, very wealthy people trying to dodge inheritance taxes, apparently what it is. Because it's only taxed at the inheritance point. Right. Yeah. And just one of the, one person I read the other day was saying that Caleb, who

was an actual farmer, will never be able to afford a farm because he's never going to be rich enough to buy a farm. No. And it's kind of wild that he actually knows how to farm. But then if he inherits a farm, I mean, presumably the farm that he is inheriting, uh, tax has already been paid on everything to do with the farm. Um, previous year.

Okay. So the way it works is imagine, it's like 20% or whatever. That's a lot more than it actually is. I'm sure. But imagine you, you inherited sex. Yes, that is a big problem because these farmers are confronted with like, they have no disposable income. They just have the value of the farm. And so, you know, they have to sell one fifth of the farm. Yeah. And they're at the mercy of like, weather and the, you know, the economy and everything

else is, I think it's hard for them to make actual money. For sure. If they don't have a TV show backing them and they're able to go off and do all these crazy things, sidelines and stuff. And yeah, you're, you're absolutely right. Like the cost, the value of these farms is insane and you know, there's no way someone, you know, like Caleb who's been work, like imagine Caleb wasn't famous, which he is now and now he has millions of pounds from all

his book deals and stuff. He can probably buy 10 farms, but um, you know, when he, if he was just like, there's hundreds of thousands of people like him working in Britain on the farms. And yeah, they are struggling to make ends meet and they're never going to be able to afford a farm in the way that, you know, it's land owners who have this wealth stored away in kings. And of course, what happens is, what do you think happens to these wealthy people over their lifetime when they have an object of value? It makes loads of money.

They rent out the land, they make money on the land. They slap some solar panels on that bitch. The compounding interest of owning it for 40 years, or however long they live, is going to be way more than they end up paying through inheritance tax when they finally pass it on. So the wealth doesn't move out of their pie. We live in a world of kings, it's terrible. We need to tax them more. But we're not going to, and that's why the, we're going to vote reform next year. Nigel Farage is going to tax him even more. Yeah.

It's a disaster. We should need to tax the rich. Yeah. Please. Those rich. Yeah. Don't tax me. Yeah, he lives in Jersey. I was going to say what the fuck.

I don't want to pay. I am happy to pay more tax. I am happy to pay more tax. I pay my fair share. You know, I'm fine. I'm fine with paying. You live on a tax haven. Yeah, but I still pay income tax.

You know, I pay 27% income tax over here. Yeah, well, that's great. I'm fine. I'm fine with paying. You live on a tax haven. Yes. Yeah. But I still pay income tax. You know, I pay 27% income tax over here. So, yeah. Well, it's great. I just don't declare any income. That's how I get around it. Jesus. Oh my God. You put it all on expenses. Is that legal? No. I don't do that by the way. I would be crazy. I would actually be in jail.

It's so regulated over here. It's impossible to get away with any of that stuff anymore. More news. The most dangerous delivery truck, question mark? How a lorryload of antimatter researchers are preparing it for across Europe. So there's a small amount of antimatter. It takes apparently trillion dollars to make a gram. And it's manufactured in Geneva, near CERN. And it's very tricky to handle. Why are we making it? To study it, I guess.

I mean, if we know how to make it, what is there to study? How it interacts with stuff, I think. But antimatter obviously is one of these things which annihilates as soon as it meets normal matter causing a massive explosion. So let's not fuck with it. Just a thought. But there's, they're making a special fan. What if he drops it?

Does it just go through the planet and destroy it? That's not how, no, that's, that's, that's not how it works. Okay. It's not a black hole, but that was a fear that, um, that, that, that these particles that would make a miniature black hole and it would drop into the central planet. When they first, when they first powered up certain people thought that that might happen, right? When they, and it would drop into the central planet. Yeah, when they first powered up CERN, people thought that that might happen, right? When they first turned it off.

Yeah, there was a real fear that like... Yeah, people that didn't know what they were talking about feared it, but yeah. I think you get a lot of people, a lot of people had, even when they were doing the nuclear test, some people thought that the atmosphere could ignite and the whole world could set on fire. So that was a thing that some people believe. But of course that didn't happen. But of course, that didn't happen because it was a... some guy didn't know what he was talking about. Like, even today.

You know, you could find a scientist today who's like, oh yeah, the Earth was created 2000 years ago by God, and he made us all, and that's why a banana is like that. Like, you can find these cunts everywhere if you look hard enough, you don't even have to look very far. They're usually in the Republican party. Let's move on. So I agree. So, well, I don't. Oh yeah.

You were saying, can you guess which, which move, which video game is getting a movie in the works? It's an indie game. It's a horror indie game. Five Nights at Freddy's. No, I think there's already something like that. There's already a Five Nights at Freddy's movie either out or in the works. Amnesia, The Dark Deception. Repo.

No, no, no. Outlast. It is Phasmophobia. I was No, it is Phasmophobia. I was just going to say Phasmophobia. Jesus. God, I haven't played that in years. It was really fun when I played it though. It was fun.

It's only, a lot of those games are only fun because of the proximity voice stuff. That's what makes it hilarious. And makes the funniest moments, right? Repo is the same. So it's all that, it's all the proximity voice stuff that's, hilarious and makes the funniest moments, right? Repo is the same. So it's all that. It's all the proximity voice stuff that's that makes it quite, uh, quite funny and, and, and creates like some very memorable moments as well. You know, without that, I don't know if those games would actually be that good.

It's still early access. So maybe the movie will be out before the game is properly finished. Right. Uh, who knows? I don't know. I never really liked Phasma that much, but it's sold an insane amount of copies. It's sold like, oh my God. Well it's got 627,000 reviews. So that means we're talking at least 60 million sales.

Pretty nuts. I played a cool game recently. Well, I did an ad for it, but you guys might like this one. It's called Craftlings. It's like a mix of Kingdom Two Crowns and Lemmings. You gotta like, you gotta get these really dumb little villagers that, they come out of a portal and they just start walking around, but you have to put up barriers to direct

them. Oh, it's like Lemmings. It is like, yeah. You gotta get them to build little buildings. barriers to direct them. Oh, it's like Lemmings. It is like, yeah. Yeah. You got to get them to build little buildings. They can collect resources and stuff, but they're dumb. You know, like they won't just go to where they need to go. You have to like get little like pulleys in place for them and ramps and stuff.

It's just like Lemmings. Yeah, it is. It is. But it's got like that, it does have like aspects of Kingdom Two Crowns in as well. It's like a good mix of the two. They never made a Lemmings movie. It's never too late. It's never too late. I feel like 2026 might be just the year for Lemmings to pop off big time.

I guess I bet you, I bet you they were discussions. Get a Lemmings DLC and power wash simulator. Get a Lemmings crossover and Fortnite. There are meetings happening at the highest level. Get a Lemmings online in Fortnite. There are meetings happening at the highest level. Get a Lemmings online market store and then go for the Lemmings movie. All the kids are going to be wearing their Lemmings underpants, eating lunch at their Lemmings lunchbox. What are you talking about?

These movie companies are doing this. It's more like we're going to be wearing our diapers watching the Lemmings movie. All of these video game movies, I guarantee you there are meetings happening as we speak, where some film exec is saying to some other cunt film exec, what we need is another chicken jockey. Okay? We need another moment like that. The chicken jockey.

We need to get these kids excited about something. How can we get lemmings onto the chicken jockey? We need lemmings to ride chickens like a jockey. Is there any way we can work it out in the script? That's the thing. Jack Black's on board. We got Jack Black. We got to be a motherfucking chicken jockey and make big anime titties. Can we get Chris Pratt green hair and get him to walk around aimlessly

in the movie? Possibly. Exactly. I can see I can see that pitch meeting. The Leving is pitch meeting. Yeah. There's a Key and Peele sketch where they're talking about Gremlins 2. It is a very good sketch. Go and watch that after this, listeners, if you haven't seen it. Right.

Well, on that note, I have to go. So thank you so much, boys, for the podcast. And everyone else, thanks so much for listening as well. And stay frosty, go fuck yourselves, and we'll see you next time. Bye. Goodbye. Bye.