Triforce! - LinkedIn Lunatics | Triforce #329

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Triforce! Episode 329! LinkedIn Lunatics rub us the wrong way, Flax does some research into continental drift (and it's super sexy) and we go back in time to some ancient early-internet memes! Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I just noticed it come in. It's from a listener. Yeah. Harry. You deal with it. This is not a mailbag episode. It's not a mailbag episode. No.

We're making a special exception here for Harry. Harry found a bodega book on Vinted for one pound. Hey, what? He paid way over the odds for that. One of you sold a first edition bodega for a pound to, Harry. And he was so delighted by it that he wants to give it away. He wants to give it away for charity.

Someone more worthy. Send me it, send me, Harry, and we'll conclude it in our next. A first edition for one pound. Yeah. And our next birthday auction.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't pay 10 months. Well, we did sell a first edition bodega on the, uh, charity birthday stream. No, you sold the first, second and third.

We did. Well, they were willing to belong to me. There's actually a nice clip on YouTube of, uh, Sarah showing it off and then dropping it. And so. She should have kicked it.

Uh, trod on it. But no, it's sold for a bunch. dude like someone some kind try force listener bought the all the three additions to but take so if i can find it i think it was like 300 pounds or something it's crazy they paid 300 pounds a very generous um donation to charity thank you whoever gave that and also someone bought the trifles shugging jug that i had spare yeah you had a spare one yes

well i get one of everything you see right well this one was just of everything $265,000 it was for the Pradesh because that's pretty good, isn't it? You get said one of everything. So you've got a large Hadron Collider, you've got a satellite. 207 pounds for the trifles chucking jug. That'll be a nice ornament on someone's show.

Straight in the back pocket. Thank you so much. Zam 2013 was the bidder. Yeah, that's cool, in it. So thank you. That is really good. It was just a bit of fun to do. I realize it's not a particularly inclusive.

event when you have, we're really looking for those big bucks off the, of the whales, you know. Yeah, no pause. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is one of them high brow events. Everyone's wearing a suit, you know, there's like canopays going around and people talking about how much money they've made in crypto or whatever, I don't know. God, I don't know what people talk about of rich people events these days. Yeah, I don't get to go to them, really.

Let me tell you, as I've just entered the society for rich people, I hit a bit of a personal milestone, personal finances. I've been dabbling. I got a couple of apps. The kind of stuff they talk about is just money. You downloaded them where you've made them. I downloaded a couple of apps. I've made a couple of huge moves.

I invested at the right time. You know, I saw some dips. I sucked up the lows and held onto the highs. How much did you make, baby? 35 cents. Yeah, yeah, sold a couple of lemonade in a nation. A couple of popsicle sticks and put a couple of baseball cards into people's spokes. Interesting.

I'm living the dream. I also put some money into an investment account because I thought, you know, generally it moves up, doesn't it? I think if you'd had money invested over, I think it's at any point in history, it would have made money if you just didn't touch it for 25 years or whatever. So I actually had a bit of spare money, and I put two and a half thousand pounds in an investment account. Two and a half thousand. Yeah, at the end of May. And now it's up to, all right for some, I guess. Well, it's a, you know, everybody's going to have some savings.

Yeah, but I mean, this is now worth two thousand six hundred and two pounds and 76 pence. So you could call me kind of an investor. I've made a hundred two pounds and 76 cents. Well, that's a tidy sum. A little profit. That sounds like two kids going to university to me. It's not enough to buy a bodega first edition, but, you know, I'm working on. Many years ago, I invested in some gold, silver.

Yes, I'm very aware. We are very aware of it. And last year, have you seen any movement? Well, no. You've seen a movement on those assets? Here's the thing recently. It's got up quite a lot. Right.

But I sold it all last year. Oh, well done. Oh, you sold it all. I sold it all. I sold it last year for about the price I bought it for. You didn't lose anything at least. So I didn't lose anything, well, but I didn't get anything over, like having it of 10 years or whatever. Sure.

And so, well, because I'm buying a house, you know, so I needed it in like in more. You need to liquidate accessible. Yeah. Called up your account. Jerry. I got to liquidate some asses. What have I got? Gold, sir?

How we go? So I wish, I keep getting these flipping notifications of like, oh, you know, the price is just a record high. And I'm like, oh, kill me. Could have bought two houses. Can I do a very early Flax News break? Yeah, go for it.

Is there a big up in here anywhere or just a... No. Oh, no. No, this is the opposite. This is, there was an e-sports team that played at the, Sports World Cup. Yeah.

Is that the one that was in Saudi Arabia? It is still in Saudi Arabia. It's taking place there, yeah. So this is a PubG team called Team Arian, okay? Which is all Indian guys and one player called Hitler. Oh, my God. That is his player name. Now, I'm going to send you guys a link to the statement that he made.

I'll read the statement out, but I want you guys to be able to see it. Team Arion. Team Aryan. It's spelled like with an A. A-Y-R-Y-A-N. Yeah, right. God, okay. So, this is Hitler's statement.

I want to sincerely apologize for my previous e-sports ID and apologize to anyone who's hurt by it. It was highly insensitive and hurtful, and I used it without fully considering the weight and historical pain associated with it. It was never my intention to offend anyone or glorify anything negative. I have changed my e-sports ID to Henry. Thank you to those who helped me realize this. I'm committed to making sure I represent myself. So, this is just the latest in an edge lord teenager making a username that they thought was funny because they're a meamy edge lord, right?

Because they're 12 and they're like, enough time has passed. I can maybe get away with this. Exactly. And suddenly, accidentally, he gets really good at, because he's like a teenager, he's just really good at Dota, I guess. This is how it happens. This really does happen. And then he was like starting to become world famous as a player. And you're like, oh, no.

But I don't feel all that. I mean, everyone's, I'm still using my cringy, some cringy logins and usernames for some of the stuff, right? From what I made when I was a kid. And I'm sure tons of people are, right? So I bump into it all the time. Yeah, you know, you get like a CV from a software engineer and his name's like, you know, flipping five lights at Fred. fan 69. I've actually changed all mine. I wanted to take a more serious approach, so I've changed all my usernames to Christopher Lovis, uh, honors, B, B-C-H-S honors, um, and a PhD and, and, uh,

was the other one? M-D-M-D. B-S-O-D, that's the one. I think, have you got any of those? No. Okay. Well, that's perfect. Yeah. That's just how to get right in with the rest of the Yeah, exactly. So I was saying, fucking Dr. Sips, you know. Yeah, I just wanted to, I just wanted to really, you know, I wanted to boost my LinkedIn profile is, is why I've done a big change, you know. I get a lot of job offers on LinkedIn, not from people, but from the app or the website that has looked at the quote-unquote skills that I have, if you can call them that, and tries to find jobs that it thinks I could do. Any good ones? No.

No. No. Absolutely terrible. So yeah, it's quite funny because obviously I don't have experience at a company for 16 years now, really. No. And so it looks like I've just been unemployed. And the things that you put in as your job, LinkedIn doesn't really get them and just

assumes like, ah, this guy's, no, I've never heard of him. So it recommends me things like data entry and stuff like that. I've had a great stint of unemployment myself for the past 12 years. I've loved being unemployed. Yeah. I've been contracted a lot, but I haven't obviously had a job job. I think LinkedIn is one of these kind of, it's a, it's full of country language, right? It's the worst.

Like, this guy I follow, a guy I know. Guy I'm connected with. I don't want to read it, read out who he is. His friends on LinkedIn. But it's like, just reading his platform, his, his, his, it reads like the moment. corporate buzzword bullshit, you know, digital first growth accelerator paving the way for multi-platform revenue and, you know what I mean? Like, it's just full of garbage. Yeah. And I feel like I'm my mind is no different, you know, my LinkedIn is all like I set it up 10 years ago or God,

maybe even longer. I changed the picture about five years ago. Um, I need to sort of feel like I ought to just delete it. Was that when you were in your Samurai era, Lewis? I don't know what era I was in. I've gone for a few. But there is a feeling that you have to play the game, right? You have to have at least a presence on there and an Instagram and stuff to feel legit. Like I do do do do do things that really require me to be legit, like Jingle Jam and things like this.

And certain people do buy into this. I think a lot of it uses that use it as like kind of a. an extension to their, like, their online dating profile as well, you know, like, somebody looks you up and then they're like, if you want more info, check out my LinkedIn. And then you have like all your, you know, look at my money. Here's a picture of me with money. Yeah, so, okay, here are my LinkedIn messages. I got my message from a man.

I'm not going to say he. No, don't, don't docks. We've been here before. It doesn't go well. Well, I was going to say, I got a message from a cunt. I got missed from a man That doesn't narrow it down Luckily that doesn't narrow it down

It's just like Do you need I'm keen to follow up on my previous message Regarding corporate finance Mergers and Acquisition's activity May be on your short term I'm getting these kind of things But also I've got a guy

Who just sent the words Chicken Jockey to me So I get the whole gamut Of people That seems like a nice man I think he's a Yognon he is dressed in a very smart suit his job

his title says hospitality expert so I guess that is like I guess that is he works as a server or like at a reception do you mean hospitality expert

so I mean I think that's but I guess you have to like spin stuff right you have to constantly be grinding always you got a fake until you make it I think is yeah exactly it's a very American thing but I mean One of these things I do for Jingle Jam is I do interact with so many people

to try and connive and finagle them to give me their games, right? And people respond to different things. Some people are just, oh, you're emailing me. Great. I haven't had an email from my other one forever. I would love to talk to you. Some people are really business focused. They're giving me pages of feedback on why Jingle Jam doesn't work

and how they should do it differently. And they're like, you know, if I got a, if I got a Porsche and I'm giving it away, you know, I'm not giving that away for charity. Like, I'm keeping it for myself. So, like, you know, it's nonsense. Like, people are, people are telling me how to, how to run some. And other people are like, they. Now, listen here, Bukaroo. You've ever run a charity before, but it looks fucking easy.

I've watched a YouTube video. I watched a two-minute YouTube video on four times speed. And I'm pretty sure I know what I'm fucking talking about now. So, I know. It is incredible. It is incredible. I also think it's funny because I get people, like, I'm sure we all get these emails. Hi, stumbled upon your channel and want to help you with growth.

And we can unlock blah, blah, blah, blah. And you look at this person's profile, you look at their online presence, you look at whatever shitty company they're advertising, and there's nothing there. It's just a black hole. There's nothing. They've got no successes whatsoever. Nothing to point to. And they're like, they've got the balls to cold call you.

say, hey, we've reached out to you because you are someone with some kind of measurable success. However great that is, or however small that success is, it's more than I've got, but I can help you. Which is ridiculous. It would be like me going up to someone who has got a really nice car in my piece of shit and saying, hey, buddy, you want to hear something about car ownership and how to get a bargain? And I'm just driving a piece of shit. And they're driving a brand new electric car or whatever. Why am I offering them advice? Who would ever buy into that? And I understand this meant, this LinkedIn mentality is the, you're just going to be a grinder, you're just got a cold call, cold call.

Stop doing it. It's so wank. It is so wank. I hate it. Do you guys follow LinkedIn lunatics on Redditx? Yeah. Well, I don't follow it, but I see it occasionally. God.

I think that's, yeah, I die a little inside. It's unbelievable. So this is some, some guys done this is a mock LinkedIn influencer post. Yesterday, I was walking to an interview. There was a starving dog on the, road. I stopped to feed him and missed the interview. The next day I got a call asking to come in to do the interview. I was surprised, but I went. Then the interviewer came in. He was the dog. That's it. It's just all that. Because the thing is, I feel like these people, they don't

just want to talk about work. They want to make out like this is some spiritual journey for them working as stuff. I do not understand where this LinkedIn delusion of, it's not just about experience and work and connections and see these, which is what it could conceivably be. For some reason, it has to be some big, fucking spiritual journey. And I think it's what happens is, if you get any measure of success, you become so egotistical and self-centered and so pleased with yourself that it almost feels like a spiritual experience. And you suddenly take on this kind of guru, sort of persona,

where you have to share this wisdom and knowledge with the poor people, like Jesus, walking amongst the destitute lepers and handing out CVs. It's fucking pathetic. I don't understand why LinkedIn attracts these people. But it does. Yeah. It really does. Yeah, it's like full of people exactly like that.

I think it's, to them, it's become a hobby and a game to play. And they found, it's almost like they found a bargain somewhere, right? You know, if you go to a boot sale and you find like a bargain, you get like this high of like, oh my God, like that guy who found the bodega for a pound, right? He's going to be looking for other bodegas. He's going to be looking for other stuff on there. Like, he's going to be, that's going to be his little. And I think these people, they've gotten some sort of success from this.

I don't know what it is. But they're also the kind of people who come up with these insane ideas. Like, you know, like you said about that job interview thing, they're almost like, they will disguise themselves as a receptionist. And it's like, I was pretending to be the receptionist when I, you know, brought in candidates for interview to see how they would treat, treat me. And then see their reaction when they realized that I was the boss. And it's like, who does this?

What people do? And they think it's normal, right? They think it's like a clever ploy to like, you know, where really all you're doing is like, like scaring away normal people. Right. You're just hiring lunatics. But here's it. Do you reckon when you get to a certain level of success, let's say you've started a company

and it has done well. And now you've entered the LinkedIn era of your guru madness that you end up having very little to actually do day to day because you're the owner. You don't have to be in every meeting. You're not down there doing all the grinding. the work. You're doing like business meetings and B-Dev meetings and stuff and you're just kind of, you've ascended to this plane where you were actually quite bored in your office with your Newton's cradle and your fish tank and your, you know, bamboo desk or whatever.

You're like, what the fuck am I going to do that? Let's fuck with the potential clients. I think you're wrong about that. I think that what they're doing is they're just lying in bed browsing Instagram and wanking. Do I mean, they're not actually going into the office. I mean, that's what I don't know. I'm not saying they're happy, but they're not depressed in that. about it, though. They're not depressed in the office. They're just depressed like, you know, like a retired person who doesn't know what to do themselves anymore. But, but I mean, that's, look, P-Flax, like that is the dream to, to hand your created business off to other people. And so you don't have to do it. Just sit there making Mullah? I don't think,

I don't think any of these billionaires has lifted a finger in ever. Like, it was always about getting other people to do their, to work for them and do things for them. And so they don't have to do anything. And that is unfortunately the way capitalism works, and it's very poisonous in its distribution of wealth, right? Like, I think it's... Just for the record, sorry, just for the record, that is Lewis speaking. That is Lewis. That is not me. That is Lewis saying that. So if you're going to leave a comment or email me, that is Lewis's voice, this is my voice. The things that Lewis is saying are not the things that I am saying. If you go pull your fucking heads out of your asses for a second, that is Lewis's voice

if you have an issue with something that he has said that is the person to address it to not me. Thank you so much thank you so much you can still email

PFACs and complain about me what's wrong? Feel free to do that but it is not me speaking just then. This is me speaking now. What have I said here that you have a problem with?

No, I have no problem with it. The difference is there are people out there I think they're mental people who hear our voices and cannot tell the difference And they're like, can't believe Pyrion said this on the latest podcast. And even if I agree with it, it wasn't me that said it.

It was one of the other people on the podcast. I think they can tell who Sips is because he's Canadian. They know he's got a different accent. But between you and me, for some reason, even though our voices are very different, they're like, well, Pyrion's an idiot with his take on this. I didn't say anything. Brother, that was Lewis. If you've got a problem, leave a comment directed to him.

I did. I've said this, I've said it so many times on this podcast. My take is like, you know, that these people don't know that enough is enough. They don't realize that like you, like billionaires today don't realize that they need to spend their billions on promo by building schools and hospitals. That's what the OG billionaires did to survive. And none of these guys are doing that. They're all doing things like renting Venice and getting protests against them. And, you know, and being shot by people like Luigi, do you know, they're actively sabotaged themselves.

there's this backlash against the rich, right? And I'm just shocked when I see the being such publicly awful people. So I'm like, come on, guys, what are you doing? You could be such a force for good in the world and everyone could love you instead. You know, Elon's all depressed now. Yeah, but think about who your friends are.

Think about who your friends are when you're that rich. You're not hanging around with anyone that's like living normal lives like the rest of us. You're hanging around with other dickhead billionaires. So, or people who want to be, who just want to, to attach themselves to you. I did watch a movie about this actually. This is a movie called Mountain Head. Oh, Mountain Head.

Yeah, basically it's like three, four billionaires go away to like a secluded weekend retreat. Oh, so Jesse Armstrong. Oh, wow. These guys are basically like the idea is they're the heads of the world. It's got Jason Schwartzman, Steve Correll. This looks great. Well, it's, I enjoyed it. It's good.

It's like a kind of these guys are of the four billionaire pals who are the owners of these like basically the owners of Facebook, Google, you know, and two others. And they've each got their own competing AIs and there's like this huge amount of turmoil going on in the background while they're kind of on holiday having like this kind of, yeah, it's having like this kind of really detached weekend where they're just, they're not in the real world. You know, they don't really understand what it's like. And it's, I thought it was a good little, good little movie. And it, I don't know. Where can I watch this? I, I watched it online. I knew it.

Who's a pirate? It's on HBO. There you go. Oh, it's on EW. Lewis, I want to show you a picture real quick. And you tell me if you recognize this. Let me see if this link works. You see this bad boy?

Do you know what that is? That is an al-keen. it says on Wikipedia. That is a model of ethylene, the simplest alkeen. Look at the butt on that fucking thing. That has got a real dumper. If you know what Alkeens are, look them up on Wikipedia. I think that same icon is in Factorial, so you've probably seen it if you've played Factorilyne.

It's a hydrant carbon. If you Google, if you Google Ethylene and you look at the Wikipedia page for an alkeen, it's got great, it looks like it's, it looks like a, it looks like a, It's a big ass. I've spoken that today. So I went down a bit of a rabbit hole this morning where I was looking at... I think you're a bit haughty if you're looking at like a chemical... No, I just thought it was funny.

My eldest keeps sending me pictures of... Red-Hod chemical asses in my area. That's the search. Rain frogs? Have you seen rain frogs before? It's like the African rain frog? Sure. It's got a butt.

It's got a literal butt. And she keeps sending me pictures of that frog's butt because she thinks it's hilarious. So that's why I posted this. It's just, I might send it to her. Oh, my God. So anyway, I was going down this rabbit hole about, the hornyest thing I've ever heard. Continental drift. Has your wife gone away or something?

No, no, she's at work today. She's in work today. Continental drift, right? And I was, I was. Continental drift. Yeah. So continental drift is the way the different tectonic plates of the earth are obviously moving above and below each other.

Sometimes when they, because my youngest was doing this in geology, geography the other day. Sometimes when the plates meet, they both go up. Sometimes when they both meet, they both meet, one goes over the other and one goes underneath the other, and sometimes they just rub against one another. And this gradual... Hot pushing, I know, very hot, right? Imagine some Alkeem's doing now. Ooh, now you're talking. It would be way better if I'd tried to, you know, consider everything as sexual. As a sexual thing. Oh, my God. So there is this thing. called the tendency towards pangia, right? Which is that essentially, over time, the continents

will smash into each other and form a pangia, and then with the continental drift, they'll sort of pull apart again and be all separated and come back again. So Pangea Proxima, I will link a Wikipedia article to this, is the modeled and supposed future Earth sort of continent, the way it will look in the future. Pretty much all the continents slam back in together. We'll splotch back together. And we are all, in a very short amount of time, Africa plows into southern Europe, Australia, wheels around and clobbers into China. God, America puts on a lot of back fat and gains a bit of a dumper as well.

No, but I'm serious. In geological terms, 250 million years is nothing. Okay. 10 million years is a blip. You say very short amount of time. Very short amount of time. In this context, it's 250 million years. That's, I mean, some people might say

that's not a short amount of time. Yeah, it's a long time for a human being, but for the earth, it's Narda. It's not. I love that, like, you know, it's, it's like, it's like they've gotten old, they got dad bod. Yeah. Russia's, you know, deers of smoking has caused Rush to, like,

have a hunch or whatever. Yeah. But here's the thing. If you watch, I found a video, you can easily find these videos. There's a video that it sort of shows a time lapse. And again, this is, you know, this is all supposed and theoretical and modeled. It's not definitely going to be this way, but something along those lines I think is going to happen. If you look closely, the UK and Ireland never touch, and they never touch the Pangaea. They were never meant to be together.

Brexit, 100% from the moment it was voted in in 2016, 250 million years from now, we're still not part of Europe. Which really made me laugh. Just like utterly bizarre. But anyway, I wanted to talk about what would society look like if there was just no, there's nothing between any country. There's no body of water. You could just get a train there or walk there. The most successful countries won't be geographically isolated from each other or from me.

There wouldn't be any more illegal channel crossings, that's for sure. Right. But would it be like a seesaw where whichever part of the continent is doing well, everyone migrates over there and it sort of tips the balance in favor of the other end where it's quite, And now that becomes a reproach where every fucking migrates back over there over millions of years. Really interesting. You could build a railway that just covers the entirety of humanity. You'd never need to – I mean, if you needed to fly somewhere, you could.

But if we're still around in 10 million years, presumably we'll have either teleportation or fucking insanely fast trains or God those what. But just imagine if that was now, if all the countries in the world were smushed into one big thing, what would the changes be? What would the cultural impact have been? I think first thing would be that people would probably say, oh, there would be less like diversity, right, of language and culture and writing styles and stuff. Well, because it's much easier to have, at least in olden times, isolation for longer

periods of time between cultures, right? And especially look at how, I think there would be more standardization, you know, at least, for example, in Europe, I think the languages are closer to, I think the languages across land barriers. You do have them, like, even English and Welsh. Man, can you imagine how long route 66 and the 401 in Canada would be as well? They'd have to extend them out. There'd be one, yeah, like, well, I think you, I think you would still have a diversity, a big diversity of the world.

I mean, there is in Europe, and we're all very small, relatively speaking. Especially by climate. I think climate informs a lot of cultural choices and things like that and behaviors. And I think that, but I think also. So certainly in more recent times, I think it would have been, there would definitely be less diversity in terms of animals maybe as well, right? Because you've got so much, so much of the diversity of animals comes from islands and isolated areas, right, of evolving on their own for a long period of time. So I think if everything was just swished in one big central

landmass, I think we'd have a lot more extinct animals because I think we would have killed a lot of them, you know, in early, earlier periods, you know, megafauna, go quite quick if there's humans around. So, I don't know, like, I think it would be a much more boring world. It would be, yeah, yeah, I mean, it would be like really, really gradual too. So, like, it'd be hard to, it'd be, you'd have to, you'd have to, like, take a snapshot in time and then look back to it just to get like a real scale for all the, all of the changes, you know, you'd have to snapshot at either end and be like, wow, look at how different it is. But like the slowness of how gradual it would be, you wouldn't really notice a heck of a lot, I don't think. You know,

especially in their lifetime of one person, you wouldn't, you wouldn't really notice a lot, you know? Oh, no, no, of course not. But I mean, let's say, I'm suggesting that let's go back to the recorded human history. Yeah. So the beginning of like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, ancient Babylon and Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt and then ancient Greece and Rome, that era, if that was the beginning of human history on Pangea, I just wonder, for example, there would have been no quote unquote new world to discover. So there would have been no difference, really, like the Silk Road would be this permanent thing that just flows. Yeah, nonstop all the way across. Yeah. So the migration of people would not be restricted.

If you think about the migration of people into America from, well, what we assume, they traveled across the Bering Straits when it was a land bridge, people coming to England when it was attached to France, and then obviously the water levels rose and as the Ice As End just cut off a lot of the land access routes to places. If you took all that away over the course of human history, not even recorded history, we would presumably there wouldn't be as many different races, like you said, we're all basically in one place. Look, we have pure speculation here. We genuinely don't know.

I'm sure there's some work been done on this. That would be a good email. If people want to email in about that, let's know. It is kind of interesting to see areas. Like, Madagascar is a really good example of somewhere that is right next to Africa, right, on that right-hand side, that big island. And that's the birthplace of, you know, Homo sapiens and Homo, all of the Neanderthals and everything came out of Africa, right?

Everything that Homo came out of Africa is what you say. It wasn't until, you know, 1,500 years ago that... Homo erectus being my favorite. Man reached Madagascar. It's a huge place. And the same thing with New Zealand. You know, it wasn't until 700 years ago that the first men set foot on New Zealand. And that is very recent, right?

And there's places like Iceland as well. It wasn't really reached until the Vikings. Was that Leif Erickson? Was that all Leif Erickson? Yeah, there are a bunch of these places that were very... kind of just slightly too far away by sea for any humans to have made it across until they had proper technology to build boats. The Vikings were the first to really do boat stuff, though, weren't they?

Like, to actually travel quite far from where they were by boat. I don't know, because they say the Pacific Islanders did a lot of that as well. The island hopping that resulted in population. Yeah, but there's not like a six-season series about them. So that's true. That is true. How am I supposed to know that? Yeah, exactly.

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Do I tell you I've been reading this book called Dungeon Crawler Carl? No. Oh, my God, Lewis. I'm looking at one of the people that's on. There's a thumbnail here, and guess who's involved in Seth Green, an absolute penis. What the hell? Is he, is he evolved somehow?

Sorry, sorry, Seth McFarlane. Oh, I mean Seth McFarlane. Wait, Seth MacFarlane is the family guy, right? Universal International Studios buys Matt Dinnaman's dungeon crawler Carl with Seth MacFarlane's Fuzzy Door and Chris Yost attached. So Seth MacFarlane's going to come in. He's going to do his Seth Macfellan voice. for all of the characters, and that's going to be, that's going to be it.

So another thing ruined by this absolute bell end. Carry on. Sorry, I think it's a really good book series. So basically, and you guys might like it, it was self-published as this kind of lit RPG, which is almost like one of these, I don't know, it's a difficult genre to explain, but it's kind of like a, it kind of feels like a role-playing game. I mean, people are leveling up, but there's game-like elements. Right.

And there's, you know, characters picking classes and stuff like this, right? But it's just a book, it's a novel, so it's kind of telling the story of someone going through this experience. And it's very matter. So the idea is that there's this guy and his cat. They fall into, I'm not going to spoil it, a sort of a big dungeon, and they have to survive. And so they have a hard and they get assigned stats based on their physical or mental abilities with which they go into the dungeon. But then they kind of level up. They get loot.

There's this big AI controlling it. and it's being watched as well by an intergalactic audience, right? And it's fascinating. And honestly, it's very funny. I'm really enjoying it. I guess, like, I think that it wouldn't be very well reviewed by traditional book people. But because I'm so in the gaming world, I spent 10 years playing in World of Warcraft, it really appeals to me.

And I just think it's really good. I'm on, like, book three already. It's very dark humour, very over-the-top violence, very kind of like crazy stuff going on. It's very grim in a sense that the intergalact audience is very varied, you know. I don't really want to spoil any of it, but it's really good and I really recommend it. But I think it's an example of a genre that's adapting to the times, right? There are these, there's a certain group of people who have this idea of progression fantasy, it's called. It's the idea that, you know, it's very satisfying, one of the most satisfying elements of something like RuneScape is to see your progress, to earn your progress, to grind, to like make these achievements.

And, you know, we talk about LinkedIn and people kind of publishing their achievements. And I think there's a lot of insecurity in that, right? There's a lot of people who, and Instagram too, like I think the biggest influencers who have posted all these gorgeous pictures are incredibly insecure about their look or their life or. And it's the same thing with business, like I think these LinkedIn, even though even the richest, most successful businessmen are terribly insecure. And so I think this is in a world where you're surrounded by people who are constantly showing off their incredible achievements and how amazing they are. It makes you feel terrible, right? It makes you feel useless and and ugly and hopeless. And I think that it's, it's, this is why playing games that are fun, like Sips, you recently played parcel simulator.

I know, but you just were delivery parcels. Yeah, I did. Yeah, it's really good, actually. It's nice. It turns into like a bit of a factory game. It's nice. I'm just reading this. Dungeon Crawler Carl is about a Coast Guard veteran

and Princess Donut, his ex-girlfriend's cat. They're forced to participate in a deadly intergalactic game show where Earth has been transformed into a massive dungeon crawl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's on Earth? It's great. I think it's honestly great. Like, give it a go.

And you might find that you absolutely love it, P-Flax. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, I hate everything about it so far, but I will try it. Okay, here's the thing. I told Tom about it and Tom was like, oh, this sounds terrible. And me and him had like an hour conversation about it yesterday because he got like he was up to like 4 a.m. reading the books. Okay. All right.

I'll give it a go. So it's a recommendation from Tom as well. If that holds more weight than a recommendation. It does, because you read that Brian Sanderson, Peterson, whatever books. And I looked at those and they just looked like, I'd spend the rest of my life. freedom of these things. But yeah, I'm just saying like, I think that it appeals to something deep in my being of like what, like, in the same way that these, I've, I've been finding myself drifting towards

like these parcel simulators and these factory games and I played cash cleaner simulator for about 12 hours this weekend. Yeah, that's great. Which was like just me, like, sorting stuff into piles. All I was, all I was doing was like, I had like all my shelves. I was like, here's all the hundreds, here's all the €50s, here's all the euros, here's the ones that need cleaning. I mean, it was like incredibly.

Yeah, it's good. It was in, and I, for me, it's like a, I always, I always say that these jobs don't represent real jobs, not even close. Like parcel simulator, if you worked in it, that job doesn't exist, okay? Of the guy building tables and sorting machines. Wait, it doesn't? That job isn't real. No.

Why are these only in hardback? Why can't I get them in paper? Flux is just like, he's just. There is. There's a dungeon call tome one. Who's that guy who found Sam, if you find the first No, it's not Sam.

For Christ's sake, I can't get it on Prime. Fuck you, you. Who was that guy? Yes, you can get it on Kindle. I don't have a Kindle. Do you have, do you like audio books? No, really, I like to read things. I've got a long flight coming up

and I thought this will be idea. Oh, yeah, you're off to Japan soon. Yeah. Nice. You'll enjoy it, I promise. Saturday. Japan will be great, by the way. To wear a Japan?

No. Oh, I thought you'd been. No. You'll be, you'll love that. You're so bonkers. It's perfect for you. Oh, that's right. Like two months ago, just bizarrely enough.

When is this going to arrive? It's going to arrive today. Okay, yeah, perfect. I'm so excited for you to your take on Japan, because I know that you're going to see you all the, can you keep detailed notes or like a diary or something? Yes, sir, I really want you to give me your daily thoughts on like all the crazy shit you see.

And because I'm sure it's going to make your mind, like, go wild, all the stuff you see and interact with it. Because every day, you're going to see so many things. And if you don't write them down, you're going to forget. I will keep a diary for the Trifor's podcast, which I already have a document on my desktop called Trifroche, because I often misspelled Triforce, and I make notes on there about things that I've seen during the week. So I'll do one about Japan. And I'll take pictures and stuff like that. But, oh, do you have, do you have anything on there at the moment to go through anything important? On intra-froche, I was, I looked up the, there's a playlist of earliest internet memes, which isn't good for a podcast because we, the memes are obviously audio-visual, they're all on YouTube and stuff.

But yeah, it was things like, I mean, you'll remember all the old, Charlie bit my finger and trollo lo lo and all that kind of stuff. First of all, an awful lot of them are really long. Remember that one, he sees climbing in your windows and snatching your, He's climbing in your windows, snatching your people up. Yeah, that one. That was very big. So they did loads of memes, and it was like a full-length song. But there were things like people did loads of animated videos with like something about a bunch of unicorns.

There was the whole look at my horse. My horse is amazing. All of those are honestly, I didn't really like them at the time because I wasn't a child when I was first on the internet. A lot of badgers, badgers, badgers. Badger, badger. And then something bacon or something, mushroom, mushroom like that. Right. So that is like fucking eight minutes long or something shit.

All of these memes are so long. That's crazy. Just look them up. It's not like a 10 second TikTok. I think like a good handful of them. Yeah, you got to put it. Control went on, didn't it? It's a whole song. It's like five minutes.

It's so long. It's ridiculous. So here's this playlist I've got. I'll pop this in. I mean, so this is on the crazy frog chan. There's that bit where he goes, ah, I remember Sips, you did a karaoke cover of A la-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-dh. One of the whole song is...

He goes, I was laughing, really pop-wwwbh-bh-bh-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hits. And then, like I said, there's loads, yeah. He really nailed that, even today. So, I mean, there was so much... There was so much backstory. Crazy frog. What about the gummy bear song? You remember that one?

Oh, my kid. So that's on this list. Boxy, do you remember Boxy? Nope. Sure. So Boxy was a scene kid from like the early 2000. She had very heavy black eyeliner and that haircut where they sort of swoop it across their forehead.

And she had really over the top facial expressions and exaggerated movements. My name is Baxi like that. And it was just, her videos were very popular. This video here is five minutes long. Star Wars Kid, it's a two-minute video of a guy doing dumb shit with, like, not a light save, but he does all kinds of moves. David, after the dentist, this was massive, two minutes of a kid recovering from anesthesia, a keyboard cat, which is just a cat going, do. Well, actually, all of this stuff is all very sent to your mom, innocent, like the David dentist and the Charlie bit of my finger. And it's all very safe, right, these big memes.

I think it was, it was a, and also it's all quite, um. I saw this one the other day that made me laugh. But I don't know if it's old or not because I don't really keep up on this stuff. But it was a CCTV footage and it was a pregnant woman standing on a bus. And she was standing in the island. A whole bunch of people were sitting. And a bunch of people were motioning for a woman to stand up to let her sit down. So the woman stands up.

But then she's got like an amputated leg and she's got crutches. Like you don't realize this when she's sitting down. It's just when she swivels over. She's got like a fake leg and she's struggling to stand up so that this pregnant woman can sit down. And then as soon as the pregnant woman is just about to sit down, the whole scene freezes. And this guy just comes in off the left. It's like a green screen and he just like he goes and sits on the seat. But like he's not sitting on the seat because it's not it's like a green screen.

Right. So his legs aren't like where they need to be. Okay. It's so fucking stupid. But I thought it was really funny. I don't know if it's even a thing I just saw it and it was I guess you guys aren't aware of this one

I have no idea what you're doing it's funny I'll see if I can find it It was pretty funny but This is this is it But the world is so much broader now I think if you were to share The most popular meme I think there's a good amount of people

Who just wouldn't know it I don't know Things didn't go as broad As they did in the early days of the internet You know it feels like It was a smaller place than it is now. I mean?

Yeah, you ever hear like all those like song remixes but there are things that my parents would find funny. Yeah, like Balm Iran and strangers on my flight like the after 9-11 and all that kind of stuff.

Where the fuck does that shit come from? Like I guess it's just the same place but like fuck it's some of it is just the worst isn't it? Oh, can we talking of all that kind of crap? Can we talk about this Jeffrey Epstein shit that's happening right now? What? The list and then the non-list and now it's a hoax. It's Obama's. That's one of the most incredible Volt-FAS in recent political history. Like, to me, it felt like he built his entire base off shit like this.

Well, yeah, a lot of people seem to think so. But now his base are saying like, oh, he never mentioned it and stuff. So it's the same old. There's a huge amount of backlash. Like he has, on truth social, which is like the Trump dick sucker platform, people just go on and they're lapping at his anus, everything he says, are like, sir, you're wrong about this and can't believe it. And even Marjorie Taylor Green and morons, maniacs like that coming out and saying, yeah, but didn't they all just vote to block the release of the files? All of them just voted to block it, which is, I mean, it's all because, they're all melting off on social, but like every Republican voted to block it, yeah. Right, but the thing is, I don't know if his,

His base is genuinely going to let this one go. Because this is one of their all-time favorite conspiracy theories. And an awful lot of them are like, no. Like we can't just say, oh, yes, Mr. President, this was clearly nothing. Because even in their darkest, deepest, darkest recesses of their absolute Trump-riddled minds, they must realize that this is the one thing that they just genuinely cannot let go. Because it's all they've talked about. Well, there's some video that they released where there's like three minutes of footage missing and stuff.

And it's not even a good shot. Even if they're pushed to release the list, who's to say that it's just going to be, you know, lots of, lots of, yeah, it's going to be all blanked out and redacted. Yeah, you won't even. But yeah, apparently, it is genuinely like this is a moment where he's getting a lot of pushback against this. And I just thought, how interesting to think that. I just think of all the moments where he should have had tons of pushback that just materialized into nothing. Right. I just feel like this is just another one.

That was stuff he could easily blame on the Democrats and just say, well, this was, you know, this was them. And all he has to do is say things like, we're going to build a war, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. But this is something that they, their whole thing was that the Democrats are just petos, and it's like this international pito ring, and they're all part of it, and Donald Trump's going to save the day. And for him to then come into office and say, oh, no, I don't think the Epstein stuff is anything. They're like, excuse me? That was the whole conspiracy that we've been talking about for the last 10, 15 years was that this was a thing. Pizza gate and all that shit. And now he's just trying to hand wave at all.

I genuinely think that this might just be a moment where a lot of them are like, this is stupid. I wonder. Who knows? I just thought it was so fascinating to see first him and Elon turned on each other and then this. I saw this great post this morning. I can't find it.

But it's basically it's Emperor Palpatine posting on Twitter. It's like, the Sith files are a Jedi host. It's orchestrated by Yodd, like evil. Evil, idiot, evil, D. Crip, you know. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I like that. Like Sleepy Yoda.

Sleepy Yoda, yeah. That's great. That is good. And false emails Kenobi, and spread by the radical Jedi news media, fake news.

Like, I mean, I just thought it was so funny that it's like so... It was very funny. They're talking about Order 66. There never was an Order 66. I don't know why people think there was.

But if there was, and there may well have been. I think it was the owner that did it. He's coming here. Killing these kids. Mr. President, we've got a file that says you wanted order 66. I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe we should look at something else.

What's Mace Window up to these days? I never trust in, Dick. Can I tell you about the 24 hours in police custody that I watched last night? It was a two-parter. Oh, my God. Is it the butcher of suburbia or whatever? Fucking hell. So I've seen episode one.

I switched it on, and I'm like, all right, I'm ready. I'm ready for an hour of no comment, no comment. There was not a single no comment. Like, this guy was just, oh, it's unbelievable. I've never known anything like it. It was crazy. It is crazy. So I've seen episode one.

For anyone that hasn't seen it, we're not going to spoil anything, but we will just give you, it's very early on in this episode, pretty much, the guy just confesses. Yeah. And he, the weird thing is that. A little bit of work to try to get away with it, but then realizes that he's not going to get away with it and then just confesses. He's just like, yeah, I did it. The thing is, I was watching it with Mrs. F. She'd already seen it, and I hadn't watched it. She goes, you've got to see it. I was like, so I watched episode one. And at the end of it, I was like, so how is there an episode two? She was like, you'll see. They've got to find out what it is. So I'm like, okay, I'm looking forward to this. Like, this show is so good. But in the episode before this one,

There's some, I think it involves a crime involving some underage people. And if they're under 18, according to UK law, you have to blow their face and you don't give their name and stuff like that and you can't even have their voice to protect them because essentially they're still children. But they've replaced their blurt out faces with AI faces. Oh, no. Oh, my God. What?

In police custody? Yeah. Oh, no. Which I are genuinely shocked because this show is so good and so well made. Yeah. And they obviously thought, look, we can't just have. have blurred out faces for a whole episode. There were a couple of scenes.

There's, I don't know if you notice, but even, it is a good show. It's well made, but I did notice even in this, uh, the, the butcher of suburbia episode. Yeah. They're interviewing a neighbor and it's like, it's so staged. You know, it's not like, it's not like body cam footage of an interview with the neighbor or whatever. It's, it's very produced like after the fact, you know, the woman is like sitting on her

couch. Uh, and, you know, the lighting and everything. And it's like, why have they done this? Like, just show us the body cam of the initial interview. Like, we don't need like the, you know, she's like, oh, she's always such a good neighbor and she had so many friends. And I wonder if this and that is like, I don't need to see this. I feel like at its best, it's just, you're pretty much at the station.

And then with the detectives trying to work out. Yeah, I think that's all you need. I don't, you don't need all like the produced bits. Yeah, yeah. It is. It felt like a soap. The most shocking episode. And this show, if you haven't seen it, it's a British show, it's on Channel 4.

The most shocking episode, I think, was the one where they ran over that guy and showed the footage of this car hitting this guy who's prone on the ground and just fucking killing him. They stabbed him first, though, didn't they? Yeah, so he's prone on the ground. He's not dead, but then they run him over. The fact they showed that, I was so shocked. That's unbelievable. This show is genuinely shocking.

and when you see there was a bunch of burglars who just busted into this shop and we're attacking people with machetes and stuff there was like there's a honey pot killing where these girls seduce this guy and then this lad comes in and fucking kills him. It's unbelievable. Yeah, the shit

that happens is crazy. Oh, it's awful. But you know what? There is such a weird amount of glamorizing of crime and violence and the whole gangster thing and the tropes about guns and jewels and doing this bad shit. But when you look at it It's so grimy and seedy and everything around them.

Their people are so dirty and unpleasant and the way they're living, their houses, their clothes, everything is so grubby that you realize there's no glamour here. And so common as well. You never see Michael Portillo out there. Well, he was bad-mouthing my bitch, so quite frankly, one had to step in and say something. And, of course, hands were flying around. smack down on that ass. The knife just slipped out of one's pocket

and into his heart, what can one say? Other than that, no comment. Unless you wish to discuss trains. We could talk about trains only. It's a great show. I watched the second part of it last night and we've got a couple more because we were watching,

we watched the gold, season one and two of the gold, which was really good. Mrs. F loved that show. Yeah, it's great. Really, really good. Both seasons were solid, really nice, Really good.

So we're just off the back of watching that. And then, and now we're back into, fuck, there's another one. I think it's called like murder 24-7 or something on number one or two. This is why I think this show has taken a while. I think this show has taken a while to really get the traction that it should have as being

exceptional is that 24 hours in police custody sounds like every other show that's like police interceptors and traffic cops patrol. Yeah. Police on the police. The patrols, like, they all sound the same, but this one is so far ahead of the rest of them. It's so much better. It just suffers from having a dog shit name. But it's a one, if you haven't seen it, you're in for a treat.

There's loads of them said. Never go to Bedfordshire. I'm never going to Bedfordshire. No, I know. It's always, it is, a lot of it does seem to take place in and around Bedfordshire. It's crazy. But I guess they got to find like a place where, you know, they can embed people. Because there's loads of footage.

Like you can tell that they're just filming everything pretty much. It's crazy. It's, it's well done, though. It's good. It's good show. But yeah, no, we've got, I think we got like three or four more to watch from this recent sort of season that came out. It's like six or seven episodes. So, but they're always fun to just kind of binge through, you know?

It's a great show. Yeah, it is a great show. We, uh, I like true crime stuff, but I have, I get, I have like a limit to. After a while, I just have to, like, not watch it. I just finished season three of Skug Game. I think it's shit. I think I hated it. Well, there's a season three?

There's a, well, it's not really. It's just a promotional thing. It was season two. They split Spitz two into two parts in order to get more, and we'll just drag it out. Was season two any good? I thought that at the end of season one, it was kind of done. I mean, I don't think Squid Game has ever been all that good. I think it's interesting, it was interesting the first time as an idea, but I think it's,

It was all right. It was all right. And I think they've got this horrible CGI baby in it, which is awful. Yeah, that was awful. And it's so contrived as always. But it's it's just so, and people behave in such insane ways, you know, which is so unbelievable. And, you know, it really is so odd and just bad. And I just didn't like it.

I think it just didn't feel at all. Paul, believable, any of it, you know, like from the insanely overacted, you know, VIPs in the sort of, you know, above the, above it, to the people running it, to the people in it, to their behavior, to like, the people, the detectives trying to solve the crime. Everyone is some absolute caricature written by someone who has no connection to any reality. Right. And I just think it's just, it's just, I don't know, is the target audience children? Because obviously the insane violence implies that it's not.

But I think that feels like who it's made for. It feels like it's the fortnight of television. God, I like that analogy. Yeah, it's garbage. A successful garbage. Don't watch Squid Game. I really regret it. Watch the Mr. Beast version of Squid Game.

That's the superior one, I'm sure. Nice. I read some really bad stories about what it was like working on that show as staff or as a contestant. So go and do your research and read about that if you wish. On the Mr. Beast squid game? Mr. Beast Squid Game. There was a couple of, I've read a couple of reports of people who worked on it and said

it was an absolute shit show and unsafe and blah, blah, blah. But that's their opinion. I'm not repeating it. I'm not slandering or defaming Mr. Beast. Anyway, I'm just saying go ahead and read it. It was an interesting piece of potential reality, potential fiction. I don't know. Hope that satisfies any lawyers.

Can I tell you guys that the, if you haven't played it, the new Rimworld DLC is really good. It's really fun. Yeah. Does that surprise you? I don't think they've had a bad one. Well, the last one from was all the Eldridge Chor stuff, which is not, not really for me. It's not. Very hard as well.

I don't like that kind of stuff typically. So like I didn't bother with it. But this one is you, there's a focus on, basically, you get like a like a Grav jump core that you can build a ship around. So your base, you can, you can jump your base around the map. Well, so you can move the whole base? Yeah. And it can get quite. But it needs to be a certain shape and size.

Yes. Yeah. It is size limited. And then, you know, obviously you can't house 40 people on me. You could eventually. It can get big. But to start with, you're kind of. like, you know, two, three people in a, you know, but you, you, the whole thing can move.

So you want to get, you know, you want your food preparing stuff and, and whatever. But you can just go to any part of the map you want, provided you have enough fuel and you can, you can reach it and just, you know, live there and just, you know, live there, mine it out, kill all the animals, make some meals, and then on to the next. There's a lot of work for him. I just dread thinking about how much work it is. Yeah, it is. It is really good.

If you like Rimworld and you want to... I'll be honest with you, though. I think it's easier for us to do it as people who are streaming it. Yeah. Because it's long-form content that people get invested in the characters. I always name the characters off the people in chat. Yeah. And it's just like, it's a nice background thing.

Yeah. But playing it alone, I wouldn't bother. It's just too much work. It is so much work. And just silently plugging away at something that's like... I was really obsessed with it. you know, I was up till 4 a.m. playing this for ages. And I cannot bring myself to, to, to put that much effort in again.

Because it went wrong at some point. Yeah, it always does, though. But there's no one there's a laugh about it with. When it goes wrong is, is when it's the best, though. As, as annoying as it is, you know, you got to, it's a role with the punches game, you know. Yeah, true. And it's never, you know, it's never the same playthrough twice. So it's, it's great.

It's just, it's like, it's a content generator. It's a story generator. And it's just, it's so well done. But yeah, I've been playing that. And before that, I played a whole bunch of two-point museum, which I loved, surprisingly. Because, I mean, I like the two-point games enough, but I always sort of see them as, like, not being, having, like, you know, enough depth and stuff. But two-point museum is great. You just, like, unlock the game as you go.

And there's a surprising amount of depth to it. It's great. It's really fun. There's a new DLC as well. Did you see? That's right, yeah. Is it like an interesting little fantasy? It's like the expeditions are more like a final fantasy team sort of thing that you send off, you know?

Like you have like a wizard and a rogue and a knight and stuff like that. So there's like there's a whole new sort of mechanic for expeditions and stuff around that stuff. Seems kind of cool. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is our podcast for today.

Thank you for listening, everyone. I need a quick piggy update for people. I've stopped feeding them. them. Oh. It got out of control. It wasn't just the mystery Mrs. Pidgey. It was like eight Pidgeys every morning. They were flying in the, in the window every time I forgot to put C'd out. I've had to stop. I haven't fed them for over a week. And now Mr. and Mrs. Pidgey just sit on the windowsill and hang out and groom each other and then leave. It's just a safe space for them. But none of the other Pidgeys come. And I'm quite frankly, I'm glad of that. I should never have started this. I thought it

was a sweet thing. It's a slippery. It's a slippery. It's my own folly. My own mistake. has come through a lesson learn. This is so funny, dude. Bird table, bird table, the seed goes on the table, they can fight it out over there. But at the moment, I realize the folly of my error of my ways, I apologize to the pigeon loving community, but

no more feeding the pigeons from the winters. You can't. You can't let them in. This is so fucking good. We had a baby seagull in our backyard because it is seagull baby-having season. Five o'clock in the morning, every morning. sounds like a war zone outside my house.

Yeah, they're all on the roof, surround here. Can I tell you, I had a slice of keesh and I was eating it on the harbour side. Nice with Michael Portillo. And as soon as I got out, it was vegan keith. As soon as I got it out, I felt this movement and this, a seagull came down and it took a huge chunk out of the center of this quiche and it ran away. And I was sort of shocked. I was stuck there.

And then another seagull came for it as well. And I was like, oh, my God. And so I, like, I had it in my head. And as soon as I would get it out, all the seagulls would, like, turn their heads to me. It was like I was in a horror movie. And they would just fly at me, like, for real. And I couldn't, it was, it was immediately. So I started, like, walking away.

And so I walked around the harbour. And I realized that those same seagulls had been following me. They knew that I was waiting for an opportunity to get the bit of key shout and have a little snack as I was walking. because I was walking. Because they were like hunting me. They knew I had. They'd had a taste of it. And they were like, this is some good keesh.

And they wanted that fucking key. But we remember last week you were mocking people who were complaining about aggressive seagulls, the karma of the Triumphs podcast immediately got me. I was a victim of a seagull attack. As very, very minor powers, we should be very careful. I get emails all the time pointing out things that we suggested that have come to pass. But that's for a mailbag episode. This is not a mailbag episode.

No. Let's wrap it up. Let's wrap it up. Thank you, everyone. We'll see you next time. Wrap it up. Okay, thanks. Adieu. Adieu. Adieu.