Triforce! - Mr Big-Shot's very important LA Trip | Triforce #356

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Triforce! Episode 356! We address a Married At First Sight shaped elephant in the room, chopped unc Pyrion tries to understand gen alpha slang and Lewis had an incredible trip to LA and saw a ton of amazing things! Go to http://buyraycon.com/triforceOPEN to get 15% off Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickax. Hello everyone, welcome back to the TriForce podcast. Oh, it's wonderful to be back with you. It's been a few weeks. Yeah. We've had the hottest May on record here in the UK. Boy, was it ever? It's been, sorry.

It's still not, it hasn't eased off much. I'm hot right now. It's hot as hell right now, yeah. It's, it's, we've, I always forget every summer how hot it gets. Every time I'm, every time, it's not even fully summer yet. fully summer yet. I know. It's kind of, kind of great, but also kind of awful. It's very sticky. I know. I feel like I'm always complaining about it either being too cold or too hot, but there's never like an in-between. It'd be nice if it was just like 21 for a bit, but no, it goes from 10 to

like 45. It was like last week, it was like nine degrees. Yeah, I know. And now it's, you know, 35, it was yesterday or something. It was nuts. And that crazy. That's hot for it for, for, I know, all of listening in Texas are like, oh, why, it's nothing? Well, when I go outside, I immediately catch fire. And then they're going to burn that I blow my skin burn. We've said this before, but North America is like aced up to the gills. Like every house has it. You know, like all the buildings have, like you have to have it. I don't think anybody can function over there during the summer. Without it, it gets too hot. But over here, it's normally mild. So when it's, I had to, I had to search for my shorts. And even when I found them, they had like, you know, they were like, they didn't fit me.

Right. Would you say that they, uh, that they're not so much shorts anymore, but maybe budgie smugglers? Um, they're, they're, they're, I don't know, my belly sort of hangs over him a little bit. That's nice. I just doesn't, they don't look as flattering. I think I've changed shape. Like a French, like a French guy at Alito. Yes. Yeah. He's got the flip-flops on. He's 60-year-old French guy, tiny speedos, flip-flops, cigare in his house. Smoking a jit-a and drinking a glass of red. And he's got sunglasses on as well.

That's how I felt yesterday surveying my domain. So, yeah, I've been done a few things. The first thing I wanted to talk about today, Sips, was to address a long-standing thing that... I'm not involved in this conversation, presumably. No. Okay. Married at first sight.

Yes. What's going on? Man, well, there's been some allegations of some, there's been some rapy allegations and I think it's done. I think I don't think it's, I think Channel 4 will probably, I think they have one more season that they'll air and then I think

they're probably done because, I mean, I want to say I'm surprised, but like, having watched it, I haven't watched it recently, but having watched it quite a bit in the past, it's a miracle that it didn't happen sooner. And actually some of these allegations are quite old And they've only just sort of taking you seriously now Which when you first told me you were watching it

I was like I'm pretty sure I said even or maybe on this podcast I was like how do they deal with the whole like first night? Yeah well yeah it turns out they don't really deal with it at all And you were like oh don't worry they've got protections in place or you sort of Well you'd hope so yeah Yeah it's one of these clickbait titles that ended up being so popular that it, and it was just not quite controversial enough that it's just caught on and it's been exported all over the world. It's one of these just, I guess it's a very easy TV show

to film as well. They're very cheap. I don't think anyone in it's getting paid. I think one thing that that probably maybe was always a problem, but certainly became more and more of a problem was I think they sought out people who were like unhinged because they thought it made the show more interesting, you know, do you see these explosive tantrums and people just melting down and stuff like that. But then it turns out that probably those people also were volatile behind the scenes too. And I think a lot of the allegations, like looking at the allegations that have come out, some of the couples I recognize and you just think like, yeah, I mean, that was, it seemed fairly obvious at the time even because most of the people that allegedly did this stuff were

kicked off of the show, like part way through, you know, like, and I mean, it does happen sometimes. Like, you'll get an episode and it'll just be like, such and such decided to leave the show in between scenes or, you know, like, because they were having, struggling or whatever. But then, you know, it's come out. There's been stuff in the paper about them after. Oh, I see. It's been abusive or just really toxic or, you know. Oh, is there multiple couples per episode or is it per season?

Per season? I don't know how it's I've never watched it. Yeah, there's about like nine or ten couples. I see. And so they're all, they basically pair up all these people using well,

quote unquote, you know, psychologists. A robotic algorithm. It's like a team of producers who are like, right, how do we mismatch? Yeah,

exactly. That's it. Yeah, they do mismatch them. And so there's about 10 couples. And then they have, it's filmed over the course of a couple of weeks and every week has like some sort of theme you know they have like uh they have a week where they have to like um you know rank other other couples um husbands uh by how

attractive they are like you know and just they play all these like psychological games with them to just try to get you know to try to create friction between like all the couples and stuff um there's there's a week where they have to go and stay with like their family and then they always like start fighting with their other people's families because they don't even them themselves don't even really get along very well in the first place and then you know having to like meet their families and spend time with them is just like a nightmare they you know they have couples where somebody will be like I really don't want somebody who has kids and then they just pair them up with somebody who has kids but then the person who has kids doesn't tell them for like weeks and then they find out

I mean, this is like, it's all like, this TV is the inevitable end of things. Like, it started with things like wife swap, you know, basically just creating domestic drama. Yeah, I mean, it was, remember holiday showdown? You remember holiday showdown where the whole premise of the show was the Smiths like to go to Disneyland every year and the wallabies like to go camping every year? And then they interview them and they're like, my worst holiday ever would be camping. And then it's like, guess where you're going?

You know, it's just like it's it's it's it's it's that format. But just with like with some romance we've done. Good luck finding a family who really don't want to go to Disney. Yeah, that's I mean, yeah. Especially if somebody else is paying for it, right? You'd be like, oh yeah, gosh, I'm going. Holiday swap. Yeah.

Yeah. I know a lot of all those shows are I mean. The Wilson family like going to five star hotels in the Caribbean. Yes. Whereas they're swapping. with this, you know, they're at a Bogner Regis holiday camp. It's like a lice infested hovel. I love that. Yeah, so it's not, it's not, it's not really surprising, but I think, yeah, probably the show is, uh, is probably going to get the axe, I think, or at least have some

sort of big. Well, the problem is it's even these, these controversial shows and there's tons of them on Channel 4 and they, they've all got clickbait titles, you know, like naked jungle and like, Just people doing dumb shit. Like, was it naked? I saw one of them on whom I got in his view. It was like, I don't know. I think it was like naked race across the world or something. They were all Channel 4 shows and it was all like,

naked alone and afraid. Naked across the world. I'm naked. Naked attraction. It's like it's just. They're basically TV shows that are marketed off an idea or a name. And then sometimes they get popular enough that they can slip through and just become this phenomenon.

Yeah. But honestly, they're all... It's funny, though, because when you watch some of those shows, or if you've ever seen any of those shows, you kind of realize that you think you want to see most people naked, but it turns out you don't really want to see most people naked. Like, especially when they're doing like really unflattering things whilst naked, you know, like scaling a mountain or evading the police. You know, all these things that are happening while you're naked, you don't look good when you're naked doing these things. And there's about, and always like, it's the same thing as like a nudist camp or whatever, like, as much as there's like maybe one hot, you know, female body. Very rarely. You're also looking at 25 saggy men's.

Yeah, like 75 year olds who've just decided that they just want to be nude. But, you know, they got lots of like, they look, they got like a Randy Bobandy belly and. Yeah. I didn't get the whole nudist camp thing. There are very few times when I want to be naked. It's very same. I don't feel like I really. want to be naked other than just, you know, washing myself or, you know, occasionally just

feeling like, yeah, I'm just going to walk around. Nobody's home. I'm just going to walk around naked. But like, I mean, I think those are probably the only times. Like, I don't really feel overly compelled to be that naked most of the time. I feel like these shows are, part of it is the shock, though, right, value of it as much as, as much as, it's not supposed to be titillating watching two naked, you know, old couples, like, find their way through a bog or whatever. Like, it's not, I'm not wanking to that. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's supposed to be shock TV, like, and it is.

Yeah, yeah. And I think that's always been a thing that has an audience, right, behind it, of teenagers, mostly, I guess, who were trying to shock each other. Yeah. Um, with this stuff. Anyway, that is something that I thought we just addressed. It's like a Greg Wallace elephant. the room.

Yeah. Don't mention his name, please. Yes. I still get emails and Instagram Reels sent to me. Don't even mention his name. It puts it in people's mind. Don't even mention it now. It's going to get beeped out and people are just going to think we're talking about beep beep

this. So it's, we got our favorites on this podcast, the cheeky girls. Yeah, we love the cheeky girls. Do we actually love the cheeky girls? Well, listen, we can't talk about them anymore because something terrible is going to happen to them. All the things we love, something terrible happens.

You know, they can turn out to be murderers or something. Or, you know, they've got like a secret crypto scam going on. Yeah. The cheeky coin. It's going to be some run. The cheeky coin, I would get in on the ground floor of the cheeky. The professional kitten stranglers in the background or something. It's very brandable cheeky coin.

So lots of things that happened. Do you want me to fill you in on all the stuff I've been up to? Do you want to have a go? Yeah. You've been on a big old trip to the US and A recently, haven't you? Yes. So I went on Tommy's podcast. Oh, you did.

You finally made it. You got on. Well, it's not a story to podcasts, more of a YouTube show. So it was actually like filmed at Sony Pictures studios in New Paddington in London. Right. It was all very professionally done. I was the fourth guy on of the day. Really?

God, they do it. What, they do it all like in the course of a day? I'd be so tired. Maybe I'm spoiling some of the. guests. I don't know who I'm allowed to talk. I didn't sign anything. Don't fucking spoil anything. Just be normal. Yes. And talk about what you did there. Please, Lulu. I'm trying to save you a tiny bit of trouble. Yeah, I went there and I had a really, I don't know, it was a nice time. Tommy's nice guy, we've met before. It was quite chill. We talked about all sorts of things. I was obviously

a little bit nervous going in, a little bit sweaty. Right. But I think it was fun. It was nice to talk about. I've been doing a lot of talking about how long I've been doing this lately. And it feels like, you know, I'm a sort of, I'm an old YouTuber. Like a dinosaur. It does feel like Tommy wanted to talk about the old days a lot, which I think, I guess it's interesting to him because he doesn't. Well, he was probably like a baby back then, right? Exactly. He was like two years old when we were doing this.

I mean, he's 22 now. Right. Well, I was 27 when I started doing YouTube. And he's been going for, he's been making YouTube video since he was 10. Jesus. I mean, he's been doing stuff for 12 years really. So he's been, you know, working away at various projects. I mean, obviously he didn't get famous to do.

He was something about 16. But even then, that's a hell of a time to get famous when you're 16. Yeah, that is nuts. Yeah. But I think actually he had a very good support structure of family behind him who were very grounded. They weren't sort of taken advantage of him. They were kind of guiding him in a really positive way. And I think he's actually had a lot of good information.

and being very lucky with that, that he hasn't been warped by it to be, he's not super weird. No. Like, he's a bit weird, but we all are. Yeah. Well, speak for you. Yeah, I don't think I'm weird. No. I'm just not likeable.

That's not. That's different. That's different. Yeah. No. So that was really good. I did want to say period actually on pigeon news. Okay.

Again. What? Oh my God. You've come prepared. You just, you're like, misty good. You've got, you've just got like something to say about everything. Like, when I came back from my trip, I noticed outside my front door, there was, as soon as I went to my front door, like the two pigeons, like, came, came out at me and like flew away. And I realized they built a nest under the end of my front door.

And it's got eggs in it. Okay. So. Well, don't touch it. Don't want. Well, exactly. I'm now using the side door. Yeah.

That's good of you. And I've looked up. The issue is, once the eggs have hatched, then get rid of the nest and put something up there so they can't do it again, because they could come back. Because I'll tell you, they are creatures of habit, because I tell you, the pigeons that I was feeding on my window sill, the pair of them came back at the start of spring and looked at me through the window like, we're back. And I was like, well, I'm not starting this shit up again, but they still occasionally

drop by. I've changed. I've changed. I'm no longer, let go. I'm no longer accommodating you too. You need to let go. Oh, man. So it's quite cute.

You can see them in there. They're very sweet. There's only one in there. And they're very, very still. You wouldn't know they were there. They really are very well camouflaged. But I'll post a little picture. The egg, the eggs, the nest is not all that bad.

There you go. I posted a picture in the general chat. Oh, that's a pretty good pigeon nest. It's like a pretty good. It's got a little sticks or twigs. By rock dove standards, that's not bad. I do say with that dead leaf next to it looks like a twisted dead bird, but it's not. Right.

Oh, God. No, that looks like I see two eggs. I think I see two eggs. It looks like two eggs and like a bit of jerky is just, uh, yeah. Chilling with the eggs. So that's, I thought you'd share that. Anyway, I went to America for a week. Um, well, three nights.

Three nights. What part of America did you visit? L.A. Right. And where did you stay in America? I stayed in the four. seasons in Hollywood. The 4 For Magic.

Wow. In a waste of... Not to be confused with four seasons landscaping and paving next to the dildo store. Or the song, Four seasons in one day by crowded house. Right. Well, they're quite expensive and fancy hotels, actually, four seasons hotels. The breakfast, they gave us a $50 per diem to spend on food.

And I spent... I'll tell you... I'll tell you... I had an oatmeal, a cupcake these days. I had an oatmeal. a citrus plate and a coffee for breakfast. How many, how much was that? $52.

It was $60. Jesus Christ, man. That's great. So, yeah. This is the greatest country in the world. We charge $40 for a cup of coffee. God, you'd have to work like, if we're winning so hard. If you were on minimum wage in America, you'd have to work like a full day to be able to just

eat that. And that's all you'd get with your money. Unbelievable. That's insane. Exactly. It's like, you know, I used up my purdium and like getting one drink at the bar. Anyway, so I went to this, basically they flew us out, the UK government as like a kind of trade delegation, 250 speakers and CEOs and CEOs, business leaders.

Did you get to meet Simon Cowell? Ring, ring. Lewis, the phone is rigging. It's Keir Starmer here. We're sending you out to America's old man on the ground in L.A. Ring, ring. Please pick up. I'll leave him a voice message.

Lewis, it's here. I need you to go there and talk to Tommy in it. Not at the same time, please. We're giving you $50 per damn, to spend on breakfast as you see fit. Bring back money. We need money. Thank you, Lulu.

Did you do any, when you meant Tommy in it, did you do any like six-sevans or any other fun of means? Six-seven. Did you just don't do any six seven? It was definitely one of these things where, like, because he's asking quite serious questions. It was hard to be flippant and silly, which is how my usual vibe is. Is it a man-o-sphere podcast? Oh, my God.

He's a young man. It wasn't really. It was actually very kind of, we didn't talk about it. He's a young lad. Even though we had like an hour and we asked a hundred questions. We didn't, they didn't really. go into anything like that. Why do girls like mean guys and not nice guys? Is that the kind of question it was? No. I don't know what he sounds like. I've got nothing against Tommy. I've never

met him. I never listen to anything he does. It's wrong generation. But why do the, why do girls only like the nasty guys? If you're nice to them, they'll walk all over you. They'll treat you like, you're just in the friend's own. I think what you've got to do is show them who's boss. Oh my God, man. You need to apply to be on married at first sight. I don't want to be with a nerd. Here he is. It's such a good impression of Gen Alpha you've got there. That's all of the teenagers.

So they sound like that, period. Yeah. They're all insults. You know what? The slang that my youngest uses a lot of, you know, young person slang, she's 14. Chopped. Chops.

Is one. Chopped. If you describe something as chopped. And if you describe something as unc, that's really bad. So her and a friend, we went out, I took them to Richmond Park the other day for a picnic. Because it's tricky to get there. So they roped me into drive them up there.

It's the most lib dem shit I've ever heard. Carry on. I don't give a shit. Well, Lib Dem because I went to Richmond Park. Yeah, and had a picnic as well. How dare I go to a public place? Like some fucking hippie having a picnic. The joke was if a constituency is Waitrose, that's what you are.

Yes, yes, it's twicken. It's the London borough of Richmond upon Thames. Yeah, it wasn't that... It's a nice part of London. Wasn't that Twickenham, the person for Twickenham was that Limb Dem guy that passed away, right? What's his name? Menzies something? Campbell.

No, Vince Cable? Vince Cable? Vince Cable. Is he dead? God, I hope not. He's a good life. I don't know. One of them.

I think it was actually that Menzies one. That's how he talked. Was it Menzies? Hello. I've said to you on a trade delegation. Vince Cable It's Menzies Campbell. Menzies Campbell died last year, 26th of September.

Mingus Campbell. Yeah, Mingus. Mingus, he died. So it's spelt Menzis, but it's pronounced Mingus, I believe, which is awfully bizarre. Oh, Mingus. No, Ming, it's Ming. His nickname was Ming. Yeah.

Right. I mean, that says Menzies to me. No, it's, it's Chungus Campbell is what he's actually. Menz's. Lord, Lord Chungus Campbell. Hello. Your Chuggis, I'm Baron Campbell here.

Happy birthday. Listen to his full title. Lord, Lord, sorry, Baron Campbell of Pittenweem. Pittenweem? That's not the most place.

It's the most fucking English. Anyway, you went to the, you went to the park to have a picnic in Richmond. Where is it? Grangemure. Kilkenny.

Oh, it's in Scotland. Kielgog. Bungla, Borgla, Borgla, Purple Borgalarn. So you went to have a picnic and, and,

oh yeah, so they were, described, they were talking about the other kids and teachers and stuff in the school and joking about them and stuff. Right. And they described, one girl, they were like, oh my God, her fringe is so chopped. And then they said, yeah, she's chopped and unc. And I was just laughing because I was like, this language means nothing to me.

Chopped and unk. It sounds like caveman. That is hilarious. Chopped and, yeah. You would job. So, like, chopped liver. I don't know. I don't know where it comes from.

It's chopped. I think it might describe if you have a bad haircut, that hair is chopped. It looks like someone just chopped at it with an axe. Do you what I mean? I don't know. We get a lot of mid, yapping, and what's the other one? Nah. Nah.

Everything is nah. Nah. Yeah, everything. Unk is from uncle, yeah. So, like, an old washed up or out of touch guy. That's us. But then you also get people talk about Unk, like as in just an older dude that's like, hey, Like, it's not like a bad thing.

Yeah. Sometimes it's almost like just referring to it. I thought it was like Uncle Joey on on Full House. Have mercy. I never heard of that. Well, yeah, I mean, there was this kind of Renaissance, wasn't there?

DadBods and like, you know. That was Chris Pratt driving that, I think. I see. Yeah, there was. It was a thing for like a minute. That was a very short-lived. Do you know how I was watching a TV show called Legends? Right.

It's like a drama. It's about a. drug trade in Liverpool in the 80s. It's about how, it's a true story, about how the customs and excise people, I think it was customs and exercise. It's got like slow horses vibes. It has, yeah.

And they sort of go undercover. It's a good show. I watched it on the plane actually. Almost the entire soundtrack is 80s music, obviously. But what I found interesting is that I'm watching this show and I'm listening to that music and I know all those songs and all those artists because I grew up with that. And obviously they were all still popular into the 90s

and that music had a lot of legs. But when I watched old TV shows in the 80s with my mom, she liked the music that was from the 50s and 60s that was in those shows. But a lot of that music is just gone. But my kids still listen to 80s music. Like, I feel like there's something about 80s music that means it's still got legs even now that it doesn't feel as dated. Like, I don't get it. My 14-year-old listens to, like, The Cure and stuff. Like, the 80s is her favorite genre of music.

Yeah. Why is that? What is it about the 80s that just got those legs? I don't know what it was. I don't know. There was some really fantastic music. And I don't think anything has really come kind of close to it. In terms of defining like a decade or an era, I'd say nothing, nothing's come close.

Like it was such a distinctive sound. It had such a unique sort of, I don't want to use the word vibe, but, you know, like it, like there was definitely. some vibe to it, you know, it was just like, it just seemed to resonate with the people of the time so much. And then obviously people who lived through that and that was their, their music when they were young, still love it to this day. And then, but it's, it's so accessible for, further generations to get into because the, I just think the quality of music was actually just so good. I mean, there was a lot of garbage as well in the 80s, but I mean, some of it was phenomenal. And I think it's, you didn't have some of the barriers that you have today for artists, music.

You know, it wasn't so much about how you looked and who maybe, maybe there was like an element of who you knew and stuff like that. But it just seemed like the raw talent came through. And there were acts like if you look back the 80s, you look at some of the acts, some like the big names. There are people like, you know, that would just not go anywhere these days, you know, like Phil Collins. Like, fucking hell. You know what I mean, though? Like, there's no way that Phil Collins would make it big in this day and age. Like, he would have just everything against him, right?

Like, it would be tough. I also feel like because of that, like a lot of those people that were big, a lot of the bands, a lot of these solo artists, were musicians first and foremost. And I think a lot of the people that are very successful now, almost entirely solo artists, are much more of a brand. Yeah.

And a lot of the songs are written. are written for them. And there's a sort of, it's like a, oh, you don't fit the look of what a pop star should be. You look at someone like Alison Moyet, who was very popular in the 80s. Alison Moyet wouldn't do shit today. No, I just don't think it figured. I mean, I think if she did break out, she would be very popular. And you do see a lot of artists that don't look like CEMAT is an example.

She doesn't look like someone who would be a pop star nowadays, but she's fantastic. But I think you have to put in, you don't get picked up by a record company and said, all you're going to be the next big thing. No. That seems such a procession of, of them. And they all seem to have good songs written for them. It's bizarre. Yeah.

Yeah, there's, it's, you know, like, in terms of like music being like churned out in a, in a factory, like more so nowadays, it feels like that they have their session artists, you know, they have their, their, their writers, composers, like all the, all the record labels have these people ready to go, you know, and all they need to find. is somebody who looks the part and then they can just create everything for them very quickly, market them very quickly, and then go through the same throws as all the stars of the past have gone through music first and then after that perfume and, you know, Gillette and whatever, whatever other product, they, Pepsi, you know, whatever product that they fit better with or they can

have their own line of something or whatever, but they come and go so quick now, don't they? Yeah, it does feel like. They don't have the staying power. They don't have the, they don't have, like, the body of work that, like, I think artists of the past would have had either, you know, like, if you. I watch these, like, if I watch a, not glass to me, but like, if I'm watching Glassman, it's a bit more eclectic, I think. But I watched a Radio One's big weekend was last weekend. And they have all these really popular stars on that I've honestly never heard of. I don't listen to.

No, I mean, yeah. It's not for me. You know, it's fine. Yeah. But these people are so big, and I will say, a lot of them really do sound the same. But, I mean, I guess if you think back to the 80s, there were pop stars like that. I just feel like it's not music wouldn't be listened to in 10 or 15 years. And there are definitely artists from back then, 10 or 15 years ago, that nobody gives a shit about now.

I think there's definitely... Katie Perry's an example of that. Katie Perry now is like a punchline. Yeah. She was a huge pop star, and now her music sucks and nobody listens to it. So will that happen with, I don't know, Shappell Rhone? Will that happen with her? Will that happen?

Will that happen? Will Billy Elish be irrelevant in 10 years? I don't know. It's hard to know. I mean, like, when you look back at like stuff that was popular, like when I was like, you know, nine or 10 years old and like, I mean, like look at like new kids on the block. Like, you know, you wouldn't, you wouldn't necessarily. There were loads of boy bands. You wouldn't necessarily.

And they were all making money. They were. Yeah. Absolutely. And I just want to say as well, like I was talking about Phil Collins and how he'd never make it today. But there, I mean, there's definitely some examples and like maybe, maybe that's not like strictly true. Because like, you think of people like, who are, who are talented, but maybe don't look like the part. I don't want to like, I'm not, I'm not like picking on Lewis Capaldi

specifically, but like he. Oh, he does not look like a box. He doesn't look like the part, right? No, no, no, no, no. When you, like, he, he's got a great voice and his songs are very soulful and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I'm not a fan, but I, I can, I, I can appreciate that he's he's talented for sure. What about Ed Shearer and he doesn't look like he's a, no. He doesn't look, he looks like the lad that brought the equipment for someone to say, no. I know. I know.

And he's been, he's been mega successful as well. So maybe. He's very successful. So maybe maybe just discount what I've, I've said. Maybe it does not apply. There's definitely some breakout not, not, not, not, not, not fitting the molds even, even this day, in this day and age, I guess. I want to return to a, I've, there's, there's, there's. I want to return to a, there's.

I want to. a favorite topic of the podcast, the North Sentinelese Island tribes. Yes. Absolutely lovely. I love this one, yeah. Some idiot YouTuber snuck onto the islands and took some pictures. I don't know how recent it was, but he did it. And he found all this plastic waste washed up on the beaches there because, you know,

obviously it just sits in the ocean until it hits something. And it either forms into a garbage island or it lands on the North Sentinelese Islands. So I had a theory about these lads. We don't know what they're up to. They're uncontacted occasionally. They do like a headcount. There's not there many. What if these guys are just modern-day lads

who've running some crime empire out of the North Sentinelese Island? With Starlink, especially, it's fully possible. You don't need landlines and shit like that. What if the whole, oh, don't come here. They'll kill you. They're on contact. We're going to protect them. It's a cover story.

And actually, they're just drug dealers. Or maybe like Thunderbirds. You know, why do they have to be drug dealers? Maybe they could be like crime fighters. Because they killed that lad, so I don't think that's really crime fighters, is it? Well, maybe, yeah. Maybe it's a great conspiracy theory. There isn't much stuff in the Thunderbirds where they're like, you've discovered

Thunderbird 2 and then they grow up some poor guy. I don't recall anyone ever discovering the island on Thunderbirds. So it's not a situation they ever had to deal with. Yeah. Four. That show sucked. Yeah, but I don't think the island was ever trespassed. Tracy Island is called, wasn't it?

Yeah, I don't. Tracy Island. Yeah, I don't think there was ever trespass. If it hadn't had those stupid marionettes, it might have been a decent show. Like, I get it. The setup is cool. But the marionettes is so so bad. Yeah, I know, but the vehicles are really neat, though, no?

Yeah, but just get rid of the stupid puppet. I would have rather had the Muppets-style puppet than this stupid Marionette. When they do that, their head jiggle, where they turn and then their eyes blink. It's just so creepy. Those were very advanced. They were not. They were not advanced. No, they weren't.

Very cool. You should see so. I, I'm a big fan. Anyway, apparently the problem they're going to have is they've got a very limited gene pool. There's only like 50 people there. And so they're all massively inbred and they're going to die out. So we should drop a load of sperm to them, is what you're saying. We should get them all married at first sight.

Oh, my God. Yeah. That would be great. That's the reboot that Essex. Essex lands. We actually, that was a bit that we did ages ago, where we said that they were going to do a Celebrity Island or whatever, Love Island on the North Central East Island.

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But he, no, he dropped out because I think he had some. Secure was about to be deposed or whatever. There was some drama going on in the government. He was too senior. They couldn't send Prince Andrew? That's fair enough. They couldn't send Prince Andrew. He's not Prince Andrew.

He's just simply Andrew Mountbatten now. The lovely Lisa Nandy, Secretary of State for culture. Did you meet her? I did. She's very nice. She was very nice. Lisa Nandy. Did she ask you about what you do?

Yes. I basically said the same thing. What do you do? Is that how she said it? I said the sort of same thing. I said, you know, I helped run a gaming sort of charity event called Jingle Jam. Oh, right. So you did.

So you came at them with the Jingle Jam instead of saying that on a day-to-day basis, you just play games and record yourself. That's what I said, yes. So I was there on behalf of Jingle Jam. That's not a bad shout, actually. I think if I had something better than just sitting around in my garage and my underpants, playing games all day, I would probably use that as well. Yeah, I could just say I work for a charity.

Yeah. I'm actually going to fucking start using that. People will respect me. Well, exactly. It was very different. It felt weird that people were very, okay, everyone I met was super nice and not what I expected at all. They were really polite, really diplomatic.

I think they're obviously that the CEOs of all these companies are really nice. And also just sort of everyone was doing something different. You know, it was a head of like an architecture firm. I was sat next to Tim Peake on the plane who was like an astronaut. You got to sit next to him on the plane? Yeah, I was chatting to him. Did you ask them loads of questions the whole time? Loads of questions.

Nice. When you poo in space, does it float away? Six hours. Yes. Yeah. It was exactly that kind of stuff. Did he make a joke like, actually, I hate flying, something like that? Like a joke, like, I hope we don't go too high.

This is the highest. This isn't the highest I've ever been in a plane, things like that. Imagine you would have just opened up with straight away, like, I've never been to space and the whole thing is a hoax. That would be crazy. That would be funny. And the earth is flat as well? Is the Earth actually flat? Here, here's the thing.

Who's the thing, Lewis Brindley? Yeah. I've just met you, but I'm going to let you in on a big secret. My deepest, darkest secret. The Earth is actually flat. I've seen it from space. Just a big disc. Okay.

If the Earth was round, in the plane now, the pilot would constantly have to know. down or we'd fly off into space, wouldn't we? No. I'm telling you. Mr. Tim Peek. What's about aliens? Is they real? No, they're not real.

It's all just lizard people all the way down. They're real and they probe me in my asshole a million times. Is Prince Andrew a lizard person? I've had a million. He's an alien. Ask me anything. Was your latest probe when you were in space, Tim? The crazy thing is this, yeah?

Earth is flat. Prince Andrew, perfectly spherical. It's bizarre. They all shoot him from an angle, so you can't see he's just a globe. Just a globe of a man. Do you want some prison news? No, no. Let Lewis finish.

Oh, sorry, I thought he'd finish. My bad. No, no, I was fucking crack on. No, no, no, I want to hear about Timpeak. Wait, did you peek at peak? Is that what you're saying? There's nothing else interesting. Well, I think he's, he obviously, it was the sort of first UK astronaut, or ESA astral

anyway. And he's a nice, really nice chap. But I think he obviously went through a huge, he's like a polymath. You know, the training they have to do is a little bit of everything. You have to be like a dentist and a doctor. And, you know, you have to do all like everything. I mean, he was obviously a helicopter pilot and stuff before he became an astronaut. Just to be clear. Just to be clear. Sixth person in the UK to go onto the ISS and the second British astronaut to bear the UK patch going into space following Helen Sharman. So please don't diminish the accomplishments of women. Sorry. Those two definitely did. It sounds like they had a really diverse delegation. Do you know what would be really funny? If they sat next to Tim Peek, they sat Tina Peaks, the adult entertainer. I'm going to look her up. Tina Peaks. And then you could have like a whole table with people with the last name Peek or Peaks, you know, if you could if you could find some other peaks. That would have been Peak itself. Tina Peaks.

Tina Peaks. Oh, she's, wait, when is this from? Torney Peaks. Tony Peaks. Tony Peaks. Tony Peaks. Damn, she got some big titties. That is some old school shit.

Nice. She won. She's from so long ago. She is 56. Tony Peaks is like another bang-up to-day reference. Remember Linda Lusardi? Jesus. Another bang-up-to-date-date reference.

Jesus Christ Hang on a second Let me just read this Let me just read you this about Tawley Peece In 1998 Peaks In 1998, Peaks won a case against a Florida physical therapist

Who sued her claiming he suffered from whiplash Because she swung her breasts Her breasts Breasts were variously reported as either size 60 HH Or 69HH She swung her breasts into his face while dancing at a club

his friends had taken him to for a bachelor party. He claimed he said her from Whiplash. It went on television to the People's Court where former New York City Mayor, Ed Koch, was the arbiter. Nice. After having Peaks appraised by a female bailiff, the ex-mare ruled in favour of Peaks, saying that her breasts were not dangerous.

Hell yeah. They're dangerous, all right. She retired from porn in 1999 and subsequently had her breast implants removed. They were auctioned on eBay. And Golden Palace.com bought one of her breast implants for $16,000,700 Upie ball. You remember, remember whoopi balls? Mental. Do you remember? Nope. KFC used to have them.

They were those balls that had like a little tiny bit of sand or something in them so that when you threw them, they would like kind of twirl around. in the air. They were like big inflatable balls, but they had something in them. They, like, they were inflatable, but then they had like a little pocket with like some weight in it. It was they're called Oopi balls. Opie E, Opie. Opie E, E, Opie. Oopee, Oopee bowls. Oopi. Never. Never heard of this. You never heard of an Opie ball? No. Oh, man. You must have, you must have had something similar at some point. Have you ever thrown an inflatable ball? that had some little bit of weight in it so that it would like...

It would fly through the air irregularly. No. Yeah, like it would be, it would like, it would kind of like almost like do like a loop-de-loop sort of move in the air. No. They were hard to catch. Never heard of it. You get one today called a banzai wacky wobble ball.

That's not. It's no oopi. Yeah. We, we, uh, I remember a friend of mine had a ball that had a wooden cube inside it somewhere, kind of offset. So when it rolled, it rolled in mad directions. we try and play football. Similar idea.

Yeah, but this was like a beach ball, an inflatable beach ball. Never heard of it. So when you threw it in the air, it would just like zigzag around in the air. They were hard to catch. How odd? Yeah, KFC. I always remember you'd get like a family meal in the summer and you'd get like an an oopie ball with your family meal.

I'm watching the commercial for it right now. Yeah, it's mad. Oh, this is very Ontario. This is retro Ontario. Oh, right. This might have just been in Ontario. Maybe it was just a, an Ontario thing. It turns out that there's quite a few things where like I've got jingles

like stuck in my head from when I was a kid or whatever. And I mentioned it to like on stream. And people are like, what are you talking about? And then occasionally you'll have somebody from Ontario around my age who's like, you know, I remember that. Oh, hey, bud. I remember. Exactly. Holy cow. What a throwback. But it's kind of crazy that some of these things are just Ontario specific, like, but, you know, there is some knowledge about these things, you know, outside of Ontario as well. So I don't know. Like, I, I wouldn't say that Ontario is like some, you know, some, some, some breakaway province of culture and, uh, no, but here's a thing. It's, it's population 14 million in 2021. Yeah, that's like half the population account to that.

That is such a big point. Yeah. Right. That's the best. There's like, there's like 35 million people. in all of Canada. So for half of the population to be concentrated in one province, I guess, is kind of crazy. Population in Canada, currently 41 million. Oh, my God. Yeah. They've been making babies since I left. They've been cranking them out.

Prison news? Yes, please. Prison news. I watched a New York Times interview with a journalist. It was journalist interviewing a journalist. You watched the fake news. I can't believe it. Fake news media, the failing New York Times.

It was about paper. Right. And the new way that they get drugs into prison is that much like they used to with LSD. Yeah. I don't know if this is even a new thing. I think they've been doing this for a while. It comes in in the pages of the books and stuff. Right, right.

You've got guys in their cells licking book pages and sniffing them. Well, what they're doing now is smoking it. Right. So the page will come in and it's been impregnated with like synthetic drugs, like really weird shit that makes people go crazy. Like it's not like regular drugs. Like spice. No, no, like way worse than that.

Really? Like that kind of thing. But now they, what they've done is the problem with these drugs, these synthetic drugs... Can I have a chuff on your Harry Potter? I'm fucking know. It feels that. It tastes great. Oh, I'm loving it.

Wait, don't smoke page 74 yet. I haven't read that one. All right, this is way better in that Bible I smoked last week. Fuck you now. Oh, Koclesiastes took me out, mate. Oh, damn. So they smuggled in, like, letters and all that kind of stuff.

But the thing is, all of these drugs are made. All the precursors are just regular shit. Like, there's no way to stop these precursors, like the things they make the drugs from, are, like, everyday, ordinary stuff that is also used in manufacturing regular things that are not illegal. Like, there are dead giveaways for drugs, like, certain things.

Do you remember in business? break in bad when they wanted to make the meth. They had to have this one certain chemical that was quite controlled. If it goes missing, everybody knows immediately what you're up to. Imagine that now it's like, why are you buying all this water? Do you know what I mean? It's like the equivalent. It's like regular ingredients. These guys have figured out in the lab how to turn regular ingredients into very, very strong drugs that are just in a liquid that you can impregnate paper with and all of a sudden you could just ship a load of books over and there's no way the customs can stop you and say, oh, books, this is suspicious, because of course

it's not. It's paper. It's so ubiquitous. So the problem of stopping the next generation of all these crazy drugs is how do you stop the importation of paper or any other product that can be impregnated? And how do you stop the chemicals, which we use for everyday things? That's really cool. That's really interesting. It was very interesting. I did, other people I met on the trip was Dr. Katie King, who is... A, she is famous for having very large breasts? Unfortunately, no. She is the, she's Carol Dwardman's daughter, and she's a scientist.

She's a really professional scientist, Dr. Dr. Dr. Dukes. And she's exporting drugs, I guess, into space. Is that the next gen? Is that the big market now? That's the next big hustle. They're so bored up there. She's not trying to explain to me. And I didn't quite get it.

But she basically is like the microgravity lets you crystallize out chemicals into different forms and lets you do different stuff in space. I think she's like a potential future astronaut. Anyway, she was really impressive and smart. I also met Sir Peter Knight, who is a quantum physicist. And he was talking to me about computer-related to Michael, mate. Peter Knight the folk musician or Peter Knight the physicist? So Peter Knight the physicist

78. Yeah. And he was fascinating. Talking about quantum computing and stuff. I was like, again, my brain was like, I cannot handle the kind of... Did he tell you about all his cool stuff? Like all the memberships and Fields medals and all this stuff that he's got. And then he said, what do you do?

I play video games. I'm a YouTuber. Podcast with my friends. He's on the internet. I miss a couple of times myself. Curbill Space Programme? Do you want to hear my method? Have you played?

The Global Space show of him is very good. Oh, man. That's the level. You said that Simon Cowell was a part of this delegation. Did you get to meet Simon Cowell? I didn't get to meet him. Did you see him from a distance? What a blessing.

I didn't even stick around for his talk, actually. I've got a bit. Why would you? He's a cunt. He's surely a complete cunt. But no, I met so many nice people. be like musicians and people, this guy's developing like a sound-based kind of healing thing.

Like it uses sound waves to like go into your nerves and like it's crazy. It sounds like bollocks. I need that. Tell me more. It does. I need that from my shoulder. Really impressive and he's got like actual neuroscientists on his team and stuff. Like man, it was like something really smart, really amazing people.

And then there's me there like, oh, a good hook. Oh, I went in a Waymo Oh yeah What's that? It's like a self-driving The driverless taxi Yeah They've got some of them in London

Have you not Wait oh there was that one that went straight through a fucking Police Gordon I saw Yeah, they do that kind of thing But it was really shocking Like basically I was with the Sorted Food guys who are super nice

I mean again They're very similar to us In a sense We did some stuff with them a while back. They're nice. Ben and Barry. Super nice guys. We did that Warcraft food thing, you remember? When they were making, they made the famous Warcraft dishes. And they called a Waymo back to the hotel. They let oh, do you want to get in and head back with us? And I was like, sure. And so, you know, you literally just get in this driverless taxi. It just fucking takes off. It

doesn't hang around. If it sees it's clear in front of it, it just goes for it. And you know, it's quite a, I'd say it's quite a smooth ride, but actually it's quite, it's quite, it's quite, it can be quite aggressive, you know, um, it's clever stuff, but very clever and obviously works, works really well in the LA streets, but so, such a weird experience. It's cheaper than an Uber. I would have no interest, no interest whatsoever in trusting these twats that run these dickhead fuck stick companies to put me in a car with no human being driving it and just trust, hey, this will be fine. Fuck off. No, thank you. Well, they lock all the doors and gas me. No thanks. Waymo's run by Google. Cool. Oh, well, there you go. Good luck to them. So, and it's no interest.

It's just it very, it's very impressive. It's very impressive. Is it impressive? Is it impressive? Putting someone out of a job? Like, do they lost all the doors and steal more of your data? and when they have enough of your data, then they let you out. The last time I went to L.A. was in about 10, 12 years. Back when we were a YouTube big deal, you know, we were being flown out to L.A. by Maker Studios to see them and meet them and all this stuff, right? It was a very different time. And Uber was a brand new thing then. This is obviously the brand new thing now. And I think, you know, basically, I guess it'll be 15 years before this is the norm. You know, this is, and taxi drivers will be, in fact, driving generally will be replaced, I think, by this kind of thing.

You know what? You know what? We're talking about it in terms of things like driving and stuff like that. I saw an interview with, I think his name is Andrew Yang. He's an American politician. Oh, yeah. Andrew Yang. Let me check.

Yeah, this is the guy. The Yang Gang gang. So I think he ran, didn't he run for president at one point? He did. Yeah, he did. that he'd been out to talk to some of these Silicon Valley dickheads, these AI guys. And he said there's so much further along than he thought. A lot of the stuff that we see, like we said this before, is all the clawed and chat GPT and shit like that. But these

guys that run these companies, they believe that within the next couple of years, 50% of all entry-level jobs, white-collar jobs for things that people have graduated in are going to be gone and replaced with AI. And one of the main ones is coding. And one of the things that these Yahoo's told everyone about five to ten years ago was if you want to future proof your job, learn to code. Anyone can learn to code, learn to code. And now they're just fucked. The AI can do it much better. The entry level legal jobs, it can just do it for you.

And I feel like all these companies have decided the AI occasionally being wrong is worth it. Much like that old bit in Fight Club, which is probably not true. Do you remember when they said that if the cost of recalling a car is greater, than the cost of paying out the insurance when people have accidents in a known faulty car, they don't recall it. It's the same thing. They will just say, hey,

occasionally is going to make mistakes. It's still vastly cheaper than paying 10 paralegals or 15 coders. It doesn't matter if it's occasionally needs to be fixed by one person. That one person can earn twice as much, three times as much. It's still worth it.

So kiss all those jobs, goodbye. Welcome to the future, everybody. Any young people listen to this. Good luck. Yeah, I always say it's about the jobs that are on the interface, because we are still going to be meat men. Not for long.

They're not going to need us. They won't need us. It's all going to be figured out. You're still going to have to figure out. You're still going to have to plug stuff in. For how long? This is all digital. What do you mean for how long?

They're not going to be robots walking around, cutting my hair and doing my electricians. You know the robots you see now that look like shit. You know the robots that you see now that look like shit. Do you remember the Atari 2600 VCS? No. Very early home console. cartridge-based home console.

Looking at it now, it had wood paneling, the games were garbage, it was a joke. Compare that now to a PS5. Look at the robots now. They are the Atari 2,600 of consumable robots. Give it 20 or 30 years, the robots will be indistinguishable in their abilities from a human being.

Hands down. Did you see that robot that like sorted like 200,000 packages over the course of like 200 hours and didn't make a single mistake? Didn't get tired, didn't take a break, didn't go to the bathroom. What are you talking about? A robot's definitely going to cut your hair.

There's no need for people. They're going to get rid of all of us. I don't need it. Anyway, so I went to, anyway, it was really impressive meeting all these crazy different people. I did my first, I had a couple of, so we got there, and the first day, you know, obviously what it's like when you get there, you just have a drink and go to bed pretty much. I got up in the morning and I thought, you know what I'm going to do today?

I've got morning off because there was a big. business meeting, which I decided not to go to because it looked a bit too stuffy. So I skipped that and I thought, I'm just going to go to the Getty Museum. Oh, I love the Getty. Yeah, it's really, really cool. It is very impressive. It's, I think they talk about it as if it's the world's richest museum because they have this huge endowment from this guy. You don't know, Getty wasn't the best guy.

I mean, like, famously, he was a serial killer, right? No, he was just an oil billionaire who was very stingy. very stingy. He was very miserly and terrible womanizer. Anyway, he wouldn't, his grandchild got taken hostage and he wouldn't pay his ransom, even though his grandchild got an ear cut off and sent to him, you know, it was a pretty bad way. Anyway, he ended up paying the bare minimum tax refundable ransom limit, which was like $2 million. And considering he was like a multi-billionaire, there was nothing to him kind of thing. And I think, in fact, he paid $2 billion and then borrowed, like, the arrest of the ransom

was like, and he borrowed it off his grandson as like a loan. Anyway, he was a hell of a guy. He was the richest man in the world. He set up this huge foundation, which has done amazing work since he's died, obviously, and, you know, was working to undo partly what terrible bloke he was in life. But when he was alive, one of the things he sort of did was he collected all sorts of things. But he was too stingy to buy first-rate things.

He's like, his stinginess wouldn't let him buy anything good. So all of the stuff was like, he had a brand, but it wasn't a good one. Do you know, he had a, you know,

all of Picasso, but it wasn't a good one, the kind of thing. Everything was like second-rate stuff. Like, it sounds good, but it wasn't. Do you want to hear about the son's kidnapping?

This is a summary of the kidnapping of John Paul Getty the third. This is quite funny. It's quite funny. Yes. After his second wife's death, Getty became reclusive for a time and his heroin addiction worsened, fueled by guilt over his wife's death. Oh, is this the person who was abducted? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is... The grandson. No, Getty was a heroin.

Yes, apparently he was. Yeah. In Rome, what, according to Wikipedia, in Rome on 10th of July, Ngranggeta, I can barely pronounce it. It's a mafia-type organization in Calabria. They abducted his 16-year-old son, John Paul Getty. the third and demanded $17 million, to the equivalent to $123 million now payment for his safe return. However, the family suspected a ploy by the rebellious teenager to extract money from his miserly grandfather. Getty Jr. asked his father, Jay Paul Getty, for the money, but was refused arguing that his 13 other grandchildren could also become kidnapped targets if he paid. In November 1973, an envelope containing a lock of hair and a human ear arrived at a daily newspaper.

The second demand had been delayed three weeks by an Italian postal strike. The demand threatened that Paul would be further mutilated unless the victims paid $3.2 million, so they've gone down a wee bit. The demand stated, this is Paul's ear. If we don't get some money within 10 days, then the other ear will arrive. In other words, he will arrive in little bits. They finally reduced their demands to $3 million. John Paul Getty, sorry, Jay Paul Getty, agreed to pay no more than 2.2, the maximum that

would be tax deductible. He lent Getty, Jr., the remaining 800,000. wasn't at 4% interest. Oh, my God. And the Grantsa was found alive. So this guy was like, yeah, I'll pay. Do you reckon... And was it actually his ear as well?

Yeah, I think it was. Well, he was permanently affected by the kidnapping and it ended up committing suicide. Jesus Christ. I think. Or at least he died. Maybe he died young. I can't remember.

So there's Jean-Paul Getty was an American petroleum industrialists who founded the Getty Oil Company and was the patriarch of the Getty family. So I think he might have been, they're all called John Paul Getty for some reason. So it's hard to know which one is which. Anyway, it's an interesting story. He built this place. I went there anyway.

He also, the other thing he did, which was really cool, by the way, which is, you know Herculanean, which we've talked about before, where they, it's like the area near Pompeii. Yeah. Where there was a billionaire's villa. I think at the time, there were really rich people in Rome like there are now. and one of them had built this lavish, you know, palace kind of palatial villa in Naples on the coast. And Getty saw it, well, because it was all dug up.

It's still actually partially buried now. It's a real ruin. But you can visit. Herculeanium is definitely worth visiting. But Getty had seen it, and he saw the Malibu Coastline, and he thought, oh, I'm going to rebuild this villa as a, you know, modern version, right? And he funded it. He never actually saw it finished because he does. before it was finished, but it's now

incredibly impressive museum in the Pacific Palisades. And it was really under threat during the wildfires. I remember seeing it like being hosed down. And they just about sort of survived the wildfires a few years

ago. Anyway, I went to the Getty Museum in the morning, just on my own. And I saw someone with the great land yard and followed them. And it It turned out it was like an invite-only tour for the great people that I hadn't been invited to. Oh. But I just sort of blended in and stuck along and went along with it.

Well done. Nice. Well done. And I had a sort of private tour of the Keshe Museum. Yeah. You just pretended that you were part of it because you knew some of the people that were in the thing. Yeah. And they just assumed that you'd been invited as well. Exactly. Yeah. That's so good. Oh, I'm on this trip as well.

And they were like, oh, cool. Anyway, it was, they took us into the back and sort of show, and the curate, some of the curators sort of gave us a little tour. And they said, oh, you know, because we knew you were coming. We got some stuff out of our British collection. No way. And so we saw a load of stuff. It was like an old John Ruskin book and like an old thing from a party in London, Oscar Wilde through, and then like a load of just random stuff. and like a book of church pictures

and I was like, oh my God, this is like, I've left Britain and I've come over and I'm looking at pictures of churches, you know,

but to the American, to them, it was like, this is, you know, we've just come, I've just come, it's kind of like,

you know what it's like? They sort of didn't quite realize that it would be, um, it was interesting to them to show us a lot of their British stuff. Right. To us, I was like,

can't, can't we see some of your cool stuff. You know, I want to see some of the stuff from here. Um, anyway. That was quite fun. And so then I did, it was the opening ceremony. And they had a lot of people there, famous people like,

Harlow Parks was doing the music. Who's he? I think it's a she, but it's, they're like, um, who's he? Who's he? They're quite, they're quite famous. Arlo Parks. An English singer-songwriter.

And I know it's quite, it was quite nice. Everyone was all dressed up all nice. I've not heard of her. Were they all wearing tuxia? Oh, she was to Latimer. Fancy, fancy. Yeah, I did... Latimer upper school in Hammersmith.

That was pretty much all I did. And then the next day I had to do my panel. So I went up to the sort of event space. There were lots of people doing chat chats and lots of schmoozing, lots of networking. Everyone's interesting to talk to. I did a couple of YouTube interviews with sort of the YouTube creator collective who were there. God, you're so important.

There's anybody that we know there? Do you know what? It really did make me feel important. That's the thing. I felt so, I don't know. You know why this is? Because you're actually doing something that's important. Like the charity, Jingle Jam is genuinely important and doing good stuff.

You should genuinely be proud of that. And when you do something that's worth a damn, people take notice and important people like, hey, this person is doing something worthwhile and important. You should be proud. Especially when the numbers are big as well, big numbers. People love big numbers. Well, thank you. They love big numbers.

The numbers keep going up. They're getting bigger and bigger. Some of the biggest numbers we've ever seen for the jingly jangle boom. The jangle jumble. I managed to get into the creator. They brought a bunch of creators to kind of cover it. And some of them were... Joe Biden didn't like the jingled jam.

I did a couple of random interviews with random creators. Back home in Mississippi. I used to jingle my jambles all the time. I don't know if you're going to be able to. find these online anywhere because I was like so boiling hot. I was just doing interviews with random YouTube. Lewis Hot, Giggling Lewis Hot. Lewis Hot, really hot weather.

It's just all pictures of Lewis Hamilton. Hot like here. Did you land back from LA and step out and think, I haven't even left LA? It's so hot. Yeah, exactly. It was hotter here than in LA for sure. Nice. So the only post I can find when I Google Lewis Brindley Hot is, latest members video has Lewis looking the grumpiest I've ever seen him. Right. That's what he said. What were you doing, Lewis?

You were just mucking him out. I've not been super jolly lately, but generally, as you guys know, but this just cheer me up. And then I did the panel in like a little cinema room with about, I think there probably about 50, 30, 50 people there watching for my talk. I don't think it was broadcast anywhere. It was me, a lovely lady who's in charge of the national things. theater, the curator of the Getty Museum and the head of the CEO of the or the boss of the

Kings Trust, which is this huge sort of child charity in the UK, child supporting. Sorry, for a minute there, I thought you were doing your panel with a large child and I've, I just got this image. A huge child. Yeah. It was a massive baby. Bring out the baby. Bring out the big baby.

And it was, these guys were so professional. and so responsible and so authoritative. It's very kind of very overwhelming because they talk about all this serious stuff and then they pass over to me and I'd be like, oh, we do a stupid thing where we boss people

and we give them things. And I just felt like the dumbest guy ever. Don't be silly. But I made a few jokes and I lightened it up and it was okay. And then a guy at the end, we ran out of time because it was really short but we've still ran out of time

and sort of said, there any questions. And one guy asked this question, but I couldn't really hear him. And he went on, the question was like two minutes long. Right. So after the question,

I sort of turned to the panel, and I was, and I turned back to him, and I was like, I'm sorry, your question took so long that we've run out of time to answer it. But then everyone sort of laughed.

But then the Kate on the panel said, oh, no, go on, Lewis, you can answer it. And I was like, oh, fuck. I don't even know what he asked. Yeah.

So I didn't really know what he asked. are. So I just sort of had to like make up some whifflewaffle, which I'm fine. I think I sort of said that with Jingle Jam, you know, because I think his question generally was about how do we get people to understand that they have a responsibility to give, you know. And I sort of said that one of the things Jingle Jam does is raises awareness, not only of charities, but giving in a large group of people. It seeds that out. So we have a thousand influencers. We have 100,000 people to donate every year.

There's a thousand people in the yokeskust. There were a thousand people raised money for jingle jam last year. Oh, right, right, right. And what that's doing is yes, we raise a good amount of money every year, but actually we're building connections, right? Where those influences go on

to talk to the charity separately and maybe do their own things. It puts lots of people in contact. It's, you know, hopefully we are creating this idea in everyone that doing this is a good thing and it will lead to hopefully, you know, maybe the next Elon Musk or whatever, the next thing, the next big guy that comes along will think, oh yeah, maybe I should be making giving part of my life. So I think a lot of people are, look, we have a lot of problems with a lot of dragons

sat on hordes money. I didn't say this. Oh, yeah. But I sort of genuinely feel like that's the way. To the dragons. Yeah. In the dragons dead. Did you, are you going to that thing, the jingle jam evening thing, next month?

Yeah, I am. I'll be there as well. It's in London, yeah. We're basically, we're doing a little event in London where we're inviting everyone who's involved down and trying to sort of get. It's just a good positive network event doesn't cost very much to do. And I don't think this thing that they put on in America costs that much. I'm going to get fucking smashed to make an embarrassment of myself.

I haven't been invited. It's fine, though. It's fine. You're going to fly over? Well, I haven't been invited. so no, I'm not going to be flying. I wasn't invited. I wasn't invited.

Well, I thought it sounded like you needed to be invited. No, no, no, no. You do have to be invited. You can't just turn up. Harry put a thing up saying, if anybody wants to go to this thing, let me know. I haven't even seen that. Well, that's probably because you're just not in the discord. Oh, well.

That's your own fault for not being engaged with your scars. Well, that's fine. No one to blame. No one to blame at me self. The other thing I said quite a lot was that, you know, jingle jam is, um, Oh, fuck, I've forgotten. Excellent.

What is, what a spokesman? There's too much. There's too much going on. No, Jingle Jam is... Are you going to give a speech at that thing? Philanthropy doesn't have to be selfless, right? Everyone who does Jingle Jam and is involved at Jingle Jam get something back. I don't get anything from it.

I get nothing from it. Well, you do, though. Like, creators get a good feeling. Wait, who's getting money from it? I don't get any money from it. No. No. No, but you get something.

Okay, look, so first of all, the people who donate get the games. The people who, the influencers who do it, they get exposed to the audience. Exposure. Well, they get also, they get a feeling of be doing good. Is that wrong? There's also, like, there's also an amplification process with the influencers, right? Like, if you do a charity drive without the sort of incentive of the games collection, you know, you will raise usually a bit less money. Right, right.

And so it's kind of, I don't know, it's, it's, it's a good, it's a good feeling to raise a load of money for charity. And that is a good outcome. That's not, that's not like a, there's no selfish thing to that. Like, it's not like I'm getting something out of it. Oh, you get something out. You get to feel like a good person. Listen, people, like, I don't think many, I've spoken to a lot of influences, done stuff for Jingle Jam, and basically none of them say, well, I'm not doing that again.

I didn't get paid. It's like, no, no, of course. No one says that. Everyone, everyone, everyone gets a positive feeling. And every game developer who contributes towards the game collection, you know, they're obviously giving away their games. But they're getting something out of it. Well, they get...

They are 100% getting something out of it. They get a ground swell of a... In basically, we've got really good data showing that it doesn't damage their game sales. And if anything, it can help to rejuvenate their game. They put their first game, like, for example, that Frost Punk, isn't that the one where you're stuck in the ice? I think the first one was in the bundle. Yeah. That was a great game.

Right. So they were releasing the second one. Yeah. Like that's, they get something out of it. That's fine. I'm not expecting companies. Again, it doesn't have to be selfless. And the same thing for, you know, corporate, anyone who wants to support sponsor us corporately, you know, Displate sponsor the Jingle Jam to a couple of hundred grand every year.

But they make at least that back on sales. Yeah, of course. And so it's, they wouldn't do it if they didn't, right? Right, right. For them, it's a no-brainer to sponsor the event. And so, you know, we giving stuff to philanthropy, there's tax incentives and all this other stuff. It doesn't have to be a selfless act, right? And I think a lot of people are, think of it as that, though, right?

Like, you can be an entirely sociopathic CEO who only thinks about money. And in fact, charity is still a very viable option for you to benefit from. That's the thing. There are all these different kinds of people, right? There's the people that are doing it genuinely because they love doing it, even if they, it costs the money and time and all the rest of it. That's one group. Then there's a group of people that will donate anyway because they just love the charity

and they're good people and they're going to donate. Then you, by having the bundle, you get people who wouldn't have donated otherwise to donate. If you wanted to put it in business terms, it's the same as having different pricing structures for more or less the same product, like Starbucks does, right? Where you can pay three or four pound extra for bank. basically five P's more worth of product, which is how Starbos gets price elastic, like price sensitive and price insensitive customers, the same with the charity. People who aren't going to

give you money just because and want something in return, if you offer something that costs you very little and make them give you 35 bucks for it, bingo, you've just acquired charity from someone who wouldn't give it otherwise. That's fine. Exactly. And there's anything wrong with that. That's the reason I was there at this thing. And it was largely that I met a lot of people like I met their boss of the Liverpool Philharmonic orchestra. She was lovely. And you know what people like this who honestly, like it feels like it would be very hard to do to work directly with them.

But equally I feel like they're doing it's not like we are completely in different worlds. You know, there's lots of ways. I remember because one about, well, I can't say actually, but one of our charities this year, I met a person who's done a load of stuff with them. And so it was like, oh, okay, we've got, there is a connection here, right? Like there is overlapping Venn diagrams, even though it felt like we were the most diverse mix of people from a completely different walks of life. It's a really cool event, so I had a good time.

And yeah, definitely going through like the LAVIP terminal, LAX was pretty nuts. You know, landing at the VIP terminal going through like a private security booth, you know, basically we landed and I was on a bus to the hotel within about 15 minutes. It's nuts. That's good. Because flying into LAX normally is a fucking nightmare. Yeah. It is, yeah.

And getting out of the airport is a fucking night. If you landed in Heathrow, getting through Heathrow is a fucking nightmare. They put on some crazy stuff like that as LAX. There was like a little jazz band on the plane. What do I mean like it was, I know it was crazy. What airline did you fly on? Well, they chartered a private BA flight for the trip out there. On the way back, I just flew regular.

God, I would never, ever, ever be invited to something like this. No. I know exactly why I couldn't turn it down, you know, because I was just like, this has got to be... Very cool. It's a great story for the Triforce podcast. I'm sure I'll tell more stories from the... That is cool, actually. Or future pods.

I was going to talk about the time that I had an exchange with Lord True, who was the head of the London Borough of Richmond of Pontem's Council. I found an old email from 2012. I really had a go at him. And he responded, yeah. Do you want to hear about this? Not right now, no, I have to go. I'm about to poo on my pants.

Sorry for next time. Sorry for the info, but I am really prairie dog. Great podcast. We'll do lose news next time as well. Yeah, there's enough news with. That's a lot of news. That's a lot. That was actually lose news or news about lose.

That was interesting. wasn't it? It was. Good podcast. Well, hey, we'll see you next time. See you next time. Thanks for listening. Bye. Thanks for this. Bye. Bye. Bye.