Triforce! - Return to Minecraft (Create) | Triforce #341

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

Triforce! Episode 341! Sips has discovered Create (the best Minecraft Modpack ever made), we talk about the hidden art of strategic friendship groups (with some classic dad stories) and, unfortunately, we're forced to talk about AI again. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickax Hello everyone, welcome back to the Triforce podcast. Guess who's back? Back again. It's us, we're here. Coming to you, mid jingle jam. Mid jingle jam, yeah, it's how many days in now, you don't like to be specific on dates. We're in the middle somewhere of the jingle jam. We're on the 4th of December.

It's okay. Okay. No one's going to mind. This is, if people might be listening to this, who knows when? It's 10.08 a.m. on the 4th of December. And just looking at Lewis's location. I can see that he's in Amsterdam for some reason. What are you doing in Amsterdam was?

I don't realize you had a track. I got one of those, those things. What are they like the air? Air tags, yeah, I got you an air tag for Christmas last year. I just needed to get a cheeky bit of relief. Can you wait until after we finish recording? He just needed some sex relief because of all the charity work he's been doing. Just, you know, treat myself.

Well, I was running low on clogs and just missed Silas, really, because I said coming because you couldn't find a dog sitter. Isn't that sad? There's no to shit on my dog. I've got to get somebody to shit on the dog. Excuse me. Excuse me. Are you Dutch?

Yes, I'm Dutch. Could you do some dog shitting for me? I could shit a little bit. I know I do shit on my dog. Poor man. So I miss him. But I'd say to just bring the dog next time, Silas, just get on a boat. It's really not easy.

It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not easy. That is a shame. I don't get to see my boy, Zylus. We've had lovely Georgie to call. corgi around the office as well and a few other little doggos come and popping around right um

it's been lovely nice it's been a wonderful time with jingle jamb so far so far well you've got until sunday when i get down and it's it's all going to go to shit from that point on it's gonna go it's got to go down here down it's it's been very smooth this year we'll say everyone has been so hard working to make it happen and it's all just oh it's been a lot less stressful actually just warms your britches, warms your cockles, knowing that nothing's gone wrong. Everything is just going smooth and according to plan. I can't, I can't be, can be happier, really. Nice.

So thanks to everyone who support us this year, if you're listening, if you're a jingle jam supporter, thank you. Yeah. And Sips, it was nice to give you a call on day one. Yes. Well, likewise, thanks for the call as well. I always appreciate having a phone call from, well, you specifically. and other people too if anybody wants to phone me that's fine too but um but every year i get a call on jingle jim from specifically louis to say that they've reached another huge milestone which is great

it was 250 grand when you phone me and you said don't call back until you hit a million yeah and then you guys hit a million yesterday nobody phoned so damn that was that is awkward Awkward, very awkward, but, you know, it happens. Okay, now, if you like. I don't think there's any need. I'm talking to you right now. Yeah. You don't need to phone me.

Let's not waste those precious. No, let's not. We're only getting older. We don't have that much time, so, you know, let's not waste. Well, let's go on with this podcast. Fucking out. Do you know what? If we want to talk about age, which is a nice little segue there, I watched a film.

I was up late the other night. I was watching a film called Marty. Marty. 1955, yeah, Marty, with a tea. How do you end up finding these? It's an Oscar winner. Ernest Borg and won the Oscar for Best Actor. From 1955.

Yeah, and it's a very sweet film. It's about a guy. He's 34 and everybody's like, oh, when are you going to get married? You're going to have kids and everything. Lots of pressure. Yeah, 34. You were practically over the hill. He hasn't met someone yet.

He meets a girl. It all goes well, as you can imagine. He's good in it It's a beautiful film In some aspects It's also kind of fucked up In another aspect His mother

He still lives with his mother She has a sister She, her sister Has a son Who's got married And now they're trying To get her out of the house And everyone's like

Well, you know You shouldn't really have to live With your mother In law If you're a young woman You want to have a family In a house of your own Everyone's sympathetic

So she comes to live With Marty's mother Now he's got two Quote old women Living with him And I thought damn I wonder how old these ladies I must be super old.

They're like 52. And they have this conversation where they're like, where they talk, they're like, oh, when you get it to my age, you want to believe it. They would treat you like a garbage, just like a terrible life. And one of them says, these are the terrible years. And she says, when you get it to my age, you understand, I'm a 56. I was going to what the hell are you talking about? I'm 50 next year.

Is this my terrible years? Am I entering my terrible years? I was deeply saddened, but it was a good movie. There's a quote from it where he, he dates this woman, right? And when his friend Angie asked what he's doing, he bursts out, you don't like her, my mother doesn't like her, she's a dog, and I'm a fat, ugly man. Yeah. Well, all I know is I had a good time last night and I'm going to have a good time tonight.

And then he calls her up. That's how the movie ends. Nice. Yeah. It's very sweet. Marty. God, I haven't watched. watched any movies in a long time. I just don't really watch them. I don't even really watch shows anymore.

I don't know what the hell's wrong with me. I'm just not. God damn. I'm not consuming media like I used to, you know? I used to be a huge. I don't know. I'm just gaming. You know, I'm either gaming or I'm just watching gaming. Like I'm, I'm really game-centric, you know? I don't know if you know this about me. I love games. I've heard about that. Really like them a lot. So, this is, this is tough? Is it Ark Raiders? Is it just the same? No, do you know what I'm I've been playing, I've been playing Oxygen Not Included in my off time. Oh, yeah, you love that. Which I absolutely love this game, Oxygen Not Included.

But another game that I really have enjoyed recently is Minecraft Create. I started playing that the other day. And wow, what a rabbit hole. Yeah, a little game called Minecraft in 2025. But this create mod pack, Lewis is familiar with it because he's done like content on it and stuff. but it is like it's insane it adds like all this factory stuff like yesterday i was uh i was using like a rope pulley to make a quarry so i had like all these drills attached to like this big like eight by eight uh drill thing that i was like pushing down into the ground and it would

automatically mine everything and put it into a chest and i could pull it up and empty the chest and everything so it's like it just takes like all the tedious stuff out of minecraft and adds like more complicated tedious stuff instead. But it's kind of fun not having to go and do like, you know, mining or crafting. You can automate it all. It's great. Machine. You have, you spend time collecting things to build a thing that's supposed to save you time. Yes. In reality, it makes some silly gimmicky thing. It's, honestly, it creates is incredible. It's a revelation. Oh, it's incredible. It's such a brilliant mod pack. I built a massive windmill, but it's like, You know, you put all this stuff together and you can put it on like a, you know, like a, a bearing and it rotates around.

It's all animated and stuff. Like, it's just like a different game. It's crazy. It really is. I really feel like they could have, the Create Mod team or whoever they are could have built a standalone project that would have been hugely successful because it's wild. It's entirely, it's entirely isolated from Minecraft. You look, it's so funny really because Microsoft's such a huge mega game, right? Everyone's kids I know are playing it and talking about it

And they talk about Minecraft In a completely different way To how I see Minecraft I still see Minecraft like Even with Jaffa Factory I go onto some launcher I've got some mod pack that downloads You know I go into Minecraft

It's still the same vaguely old Minecraft I remember Yeah But I don't really know what's modded And what's in the game anymore Whereas the kids do They're like oh This new animal This new thing

this new thing in Minecraft that they're playing and doing and they're interacting with or this new area and I've just got no coherent knowledge of any of that it feels they've got

different editions with different fucking whole like it's got a whole infrastructure and ecosystem completely outside of what I'm familiar with and quite frankly

it feels like a different game and it's it's changed a lot I feel like I don't I play Minecraft I play Minecraft every you know multiple days

a week this year with Blood and the Clock Tower and all these mini games we're playing. And Jeff Factory, I was in Jeff Factory, like every week, me and Simon this year recorded Jaffa Factory. Yeah. And it's, I mean, I have thousands of hours of, and yet I feel more disconnected to the game than ever. Yeah. And I feel so ignorant about what's in the game.

Like, anytime anyone, you know, we did like a little trivia thing. I don't even know what the mobs are called. There's like this hog thing, a hogling. I don't know what the fuck a hogglings. No, I know. A five-year-old will tell me about a hogglian. Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. There's like that there's like that skulky one that can hear you.

You have to like avoid it. It's like there's all these new things. But the thing is I'm playing hardcore as well. I haven't died yet. But I mean, I haven't really done much. But I understand that there's all new ways I could like crush myself in my machines. I can drown myself.

Like there's all these like new ways to die that I'm not familiar with. So it's going to be. It's going to be interesting. I think there'll be a couple of restarts probably, but it'd be nice not to be because you don't want to get so far along with it. And I guess it can never, I guess dying in that game, they can never like take the knowledge away. But still, it's like annoying, right?

Having to maybe restart and stuff, but I'll just have to be careful. There's these huge Minecraft YouTube's doing these sort of hardcore tournaments and games, Mr. Beast style where they, like we did one actually. Martin did one on Jingle Jam the other day, which I watched some of, which was called Heart. scramble, and the idea was that you basically had

10 lives, effectively. What was it called? Was it eight lives? Heart scramble. And every time you respawned, you re-spawn with a random amount of hearts. And you didn't know how many you had. Man, you played Fartz Crampbell? My wife plays it every time I thought.

She's out. She flees. She flees. Get your shoes on, honey. That's what I say. Get your running shoes on. I was about to pass some wind again. He's squeezing it out.

Sorry, a heart scramble. Create mod, honestly, no, create mod is incredible. It's changed. I mean, it really got me back into Minecraft this year. I don't think it got me in, it dragged me in a way that I was actually necessarily playing the Create mod outside of Jeff Fetchie. So, you know, you know a game's got its hooks into you, though. when you finish a recording session and then you just carry on.

Yeah. After finishing the recording with your friends, they've all left. You're there on your own in the recording room for three hours. And then suddenly it's 8 p.m. and you're like, oh, oh. Well, see, the thing is like the way, because I'm playing it hardcore, it means that I can't really just play it outside of, you know, streaming it or, or recording it or whatever. Because if I die, it's just kind of awkward to be like, uh, sorry.

Off screen, I lost everything. I died. You know what I mean? So like I kind of have to, uh, I kind of have to just play it like when I'm, I'm streaming or whatever, but I think that's good too because it just means, you know, I'm not just doing like a bunch of stuff in the background. But like I said, I'm playing a lot of oxygen not included as well. So I, they're two big like tendrils into you games that I seem to be playing. I don't know why I've decided to play two of these games at the same time.

But I guess they're, they're similar in a lot of ways because there's a lot of like complicated stuff to set up or whatever. But I like that. You know, I like, I like a factory. I do like a factory. I like the create conveyor belts and stuff look amazing. Like I almost jizzed my pants when I saw them. Because you know you can do like that thing where you like, you investigate what it can do.

And it gives you that little mini tutorial. There's a function in the game called Ponder. Ponder, that's it. The thing about it is is Minecraft famously, even now, has a very limited way to learn the game. I mean, that's part of, part of it's strange, the thing of Microsoft is it's so ubiquitous. It's played by everyone that part of its virality and it's, you know, the reason it sticks around is because kids have to ask each other about how do you do this, right? And so they've deliberately almost not put in like a tutorial section and it, because they don't

need it anyway, but yeah, you can ponder stuff in create, which means it'll bring up like a little animated tutorial. Yeah. And it's quite quick. And you can even, like, fast forward through the tutorial in game. It's insane. Yes. But it does really nicely quickly teach you how all of these little things work.

Like, I remember we used it recently because we were trying to make a, I say recently, this was probably six months ago. I was trying to make a train go through a portal into the nether. Did it work? Sounds like a sentence that you shouldn't be saying. Yeah, did that work? Yeah, worked flawlessly. Nice. And I think that's the other thing about create is.

how fucking robust it seems to be. You know, classically in Minecraft, you'd have a fucking mod pack that did one thing. It made something spin. But the person who made it hadn't tested whether if it was spinning,

if you put a block down, it would crash, right? And crash you to desktop. But then you'd have to wait 20 minutes to reload the mod pack. But actually nowadays, it's quick to load. It doesn't like,

you don't have to rejig all your RAMs, settings and all this garbage. Yeah, I know. It seems like, It seems fine. Yeah. It seems like pretty stable and it behaves itself. A lot better than I remember it ever being, you know?

It used to be. Yeah. Well, you also were playing, this is a little bit of a reveal, but you were in a recording for a Blood and the Clock Tower game. Yeah, that was, I was really impressed with that, actually. Like, the game itself is fun, but the whole, like, in Minecraft aspect of it was really well done. Well, we only have one mod. We only have that voice chat mod.

That's it. Yeah. Everything else is, I mean, we played this game show type thing, which has come out called, I think it's called like 100 Ways to Die or something like that. Right. And it's like so impressive. It's vanilla, but it is astounding. Like the abilities and the talent of some of these people, we've put some of these things

to there the nowadays. I think it leans into what I consider. current sort of state of YouTube, which is high, high effort, few and far between less videos, right? People, you know, you used to be just garbage, throwaway crap, but now it's sort of more and more high effort. Well, 14 years on, I still stick to that. Careful.

You know, well, you've got the power of nostalgia. Yes, I do. Yeah, I guess I kind of do. It was funny because you posted this old video, these posted a new, new video, evening with Sips, which I've watched, by the way. enjoyed watching you do these things. But there was a lot of comments that were like, where's the honk at the start? Yeah, where's all the old stuff? Yeah, yeah. It's all back now. It's all there. It's like stepping back in time for better or for worse, I guess. But it's,

it's it's been nice to do it. I realize that not everybody has like nine hours to sit around and watch streams and stuff. So like it's good to just make some some content, even though it's not very good content for um for for people that just want like you know half an hour a day or half an hour every couple of days or whatever you know like uh it it kind of makes sense right to uh to do that you realize this i realize this 14 years on better late than never i guess but uh yeah that's why you always say yeah yeah no it's be good though it's it's it's good it's it's getting it's a good to play like more games too like i play lots of games anyway because i stream and i can just jump around whenever and stuff but um but yeah it's it's good it'll probably it'll probably help me discover

games a bit easier maybe a bit faster than than i would just sort of grumpily sitting around and ignoring chats recommendations and stuff so it is a thing you know like you're playing something and everybody comes into chat and they're like play this play this you should try this you should try this game and you just become immune to it in the end, you know, because it's just like you ignore it so much that it becomes a second nature to just ignore it. But actually, there's probably like a ton of games that have been recommended that are really good and that I would love. But I just, I'm never like in the right place to try them.

So maybe this is a good way to expose myself to other games and play them and find the good ones, you know? Yeah. Or the bad ones. It's hard. right you I'm definitely I feel that way I played a game recently called my my wife throughout my card collection so I bought the dump that it went to and it's a game about sifting through garbage trying to find your card collection is it any good not really it's got a lot of AI music

in it as well I'm sure you would love I saw that um I saw that on on steam and I thought damn that looks like it's an interesting title I like it when a game has a funky dog do you remember a shower with your dad. Do you remember that? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, shower with your dad's a funny name, right? It's just a funny, weird name for a game. I think a lot of, a lot of game names, the funniness of the name is enough to get people

interested. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you, do you guys have a shower with your dad? When you were, when you were young, did your dad have to teach you how to take a shower? Did you have to have a shower with your dad? Um, I think, I don't remember.

I know my sister did. Um, I don't remember if I did. It's nothing. When they're very little, there's nothing wrong with it. The thing is, it's much easier to clean them. Was your sister a 19 at the time? That would be weird. That would be weird.

Even weird. When you want to, like, they want to have a bath, that's fine. Bath and the baby, that's very sweet. And that's like a thing that you do. Yeah, sure. And they really enjoy that, right? But then it's sometimes running a fucking bath and getting it all for the baby and everything, much easier to just bosh the shower on.

And maybe you need a shower too. So you'll just hold the baby and get in the shower. and make sure the temperature is okay and you can wash their hair and it's fun. And, you know, they're sort of like, hey, he, he, he, because they're, you know, it's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, people, uh, people, uh, people in smutify a lot of things that don't deserve to be smutify. True. That's true. I've never taken a shower with any of my, my kids, uh, but I have had to stand outside of the shower and bark orders at them because, oh, you've got to, kids are fucking stupid. Uh, even when it comes to showering, believe it or not, uh, they just won't do the things that you need to do in the shower. So you're constantly like, wash bun, your ears, wash your neck, wash your feet, like wash, you know, like all these things that they just won't bother wash. They, they jump in, they turn the water on and they think they're done. They think because they got wet, the showers over. It's like, no, you have to wash.

You, like, you, you really got to get in there. Like, your, your hair is greasy as hell. Like, you, you know, you got to, you got to get clean in there. Like, it's not, it's not good enough to just get, get yourself wet and then say you're done. So, like, you know, you got to, you, you got to teach them. But I'm never actually. gotten into the shower with them because like you were saying as well it's a bit of a faff too you know like it's just oh it's a fath it's it's it's more of a fath like if you're getting involved it's much easier to just bark orders and then kind of like sawy heavily when things aren't going very well and stuff and uh it's kind of yeah kind of that journey isn't it that's like that's i'm

sure there's a lot of dads out there listening to this right now saying yep i'm that's me i'm sawing all the time like everything seems like a a big chore like you know it It is a little bit like that, especially when you're trying to teach them stuff or whatever. But we're going through, we're going through now with my kids. My older is not so bad. He's kind of like come to grips with it a bit more. But my 10 year old, the whole like socializing aspect and socializing in the year 2025. So there's lots of like phones and FaceTime and stuff involved and everything.

And it's just trying to like teach them not to like just be maniacs and weirdos and stuff. And it's been, uh, it's been a journey, uh, for sure. Oh, wow. I mean, an interesting one. I know. Yeah. I know I should teach myself.

Just get some books. Maybe there's some library books. I could teach myself not to be such a fucking maniac all the time. But yeah, I don't know. It's, uh, it's a weird. Well, Flax, I'm sure you've gone through all that already as well. And maybe still continue to, but it's with what with like your, your kids starting to socialize with other kids,

but trying to teach them not to like pester their friends and be weird with their friends. friends and bully their friends and like all these things that like, I feel like I was never taught any of these things. No, you learn by doing. You kind of, you learn by doing. But we're trying to like help a little bit as well. And it's like, I don't know. It's so we're more.

So here's a problem that my kids had. Obviously my eldest is autistic, so it's slightly different. So let's talk about my, my non-autistic kid, my youngest. She has, she struggled with for a while, she would have a friend and it would be such an intense friendship, that it would burn out and they would get sick of each other. Right. So I'm talking, they'd see each other after school every day. They'd be messaging.

They'd want to meet up. There was everything. And I was like, you know, you've seen this person a lot. And they're like, yeah, but they're my best friend. And I was like, I know, but they will stop being your best friend if you guys have nothing to talk about. If everything you talk about is you guys being together, there's nothing, there's nothing. Yeah, it doesn't leave anything.

Right. And also, it's much better to have, I think. You know, I'm not saying you should think about your friend group strategically. I'm not saying you should approach it like some kind of a grand battle plan, like, like, you know, you're Monty or whatever. But you should think, well, geez, I don't want to just have one friend. You should have a group of friends. A group of friends is better than just one person you rely on, for sure. Because you need that balance.

It's not like a relationship where it's okay to just have two of you because. Makes a match. Yeah, but also some friends are good for this thing and other friends are better for that thing. So, I mean, for example, I've got a lot of friends. I've got friends that I've got from back in school and university days. I've got friends from the Yogs and everything. I've got friends from Dota. Then I've got just friends I've made along the way.

Wow. And sometimes they'll show off much together and everything. I'm just saying, like they're all very different and they all do very different things. Yeah, I know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, like, so my best mate who I went to a gig with him the other night, it was Monday, actually. We went to see Cameron Winter. Any young people out there will know Cameron Winter.

Maybe a few other old thoughts like me as well. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant gig. One of the best I've ever been to. He was just him and a piano and it was just exquisite. Did he do my favorite? Did he ding dong the witch is dead? He absolutely did. Just him on the piano? Crushed him. Yeah. I love that version of it. But he he was brilliant. I've never been in a crowd at a gig and had it be that quiet. Like you could hear a pin drop. For a London crowd to be that quiet is unbelievable. You would expect a few dickheads, you know? Yeah. It was incredible. It was met Triforce fan in the queue as well, which was nice.

Nice. Sessaway is nice. Yeah. And I thought, you know, good. That means that Triforce fans that some of them have excellent taste in music. And that lad did. And how did that lad introduce himself? So are you paying facts?

Yeah. Go get a picture, mate. Yeah, absolutely. Picture. I love the podcast. I was like, thanks very much. Cheers. Have a good one.

And then my mate went every fucking time. because we went to a gig there a couple of months ago and at the pub a lad went, you pair your flags. I love the podcast, I was like, yeah, thanks, bud. Enjoy the gig.

Like, it's just funny. Every time you go out in London, if we go out to a gig or a pub or a football match or something, there'll be someone that's like a Triports fan. They'll come up and say hi, which is great. I'm glad that people feel that they can come up and say hi. I want people to come and say hi.

And especially if I'm with my mates, because I can rub it in their face. It's hilarious. They fucking hate it. They really hate it. Really? Because they've learned me for fucking years. Yeah.

I know. Like, they, they can't believe it. Just like this, dickhead. You don't want his or gruff. He's a dickhead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the way of it. Yeah.

Yeah. Nice. Well, that's good, though. That's nice to have, like, friends that you can do, like, different things with, too. Right. But if you don't have that. No. Because you've gone all in on one friend.

You've gone all in on one. Yeah. Then it's a problem. Because, I mean, you know, you have fallings out. That's it. It happens. People have falling out. Especially when you're young.

Like friendships are, friendships change, chop and change a lot when you're young. Like, I remember when I was a teenager, I'd have, like, you know, people would come and go. And, you know, my son's 14. He's had a couple of people come and go as well. And, like, my wife is like, oh, it's weird that like these people just drop off the face of the earth. I was like, no, remember like when we were this age? It happens. You know, one summer you spend all your time with like a person and then you just decide, you know,

I'm moving on or whatever. Well, it's not even that rational, is it? It's just like, like life kind of happens when you're, when you're, when you're, that age or it felt like it did at least and you could just easily sort of like pivot around or you know change change what you were doing quickly. And there's a ton of people I remember that were, you know, I was friends with and then not, you know, and it wasn't like there wasn't a falling out or anything. It was just, you know, we just moved on. There was the thought process behind it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. But yeah, no, my 10 year old is just like starting

a lot of that stuff, but like finding her feet with it. And it's, and it's, they're girls, too. So, like, it feels different with girls. Like, with boys. I think people will say that's sexist, but as a father, you're, you know, or a parent, I should say, you will notice that there is a big difference. There's difference. I mean, personality obviously plays a huge part as well.

But girls are like, like in, in my experience, they seem more, like, obsessive over things than, than, than boys do about specific things. Like, like, my son. can get really obsessed about like skins in fortnight or something for example but like uh but like my daughter's friends are like they'll get like jealous easily you know like if if one of them goes around to like another person's house they can't tell like any of their other friends because like the other friends will get jealous and and and start being mean or whatever and stuff it's like it's it's totally different like my son never had anything like that it was like do you want to come over and play

Nintendo? Yeah, I'll be there. You know, like it was it was very like kind of matter of fact. There was no, like emotional stuff attached to it. But with with my daughter, it feels like there's a lot more sort of, you know, emotion attached to like all the things that they do and stuff, which is fine. But it just, it feels like a bit more dramatic somehow, you know, I don't mean to be like, oh, fucking women are all dramatic and stuff. I'm not, I'm not necessarily saying that. But like, there's definitely some differences like that. I, I, I, I've been. It must be, yeah, a part of our culture. No, no, it's just the way, in general, like, I'm not saying this, like, I'm sure there

are people listening to this saying, that's not me at all. And that's true. But you're also not the average, then that's the point. Like, the whole point is this is the experience of a lot of people. It does add up to something that has meaning. Whether or not you fit into that category, it's my experience at least. It's kind of irrelevant, right? But it's all the other parents I talk to.

Like, obviously, when you have kids at school, you talk to a lot of other parents. about their kids and your kids and the struggles and troubles and, you know, with a sense to humor, you're like, oh, my God, don't you hate it when, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's just the kind of, when you're going through that part of your life, you find solace and other people going through the same kind of thing. So we talk a lot, and believe it or not, there is a difference. Fundamentally, in the way that young kids interact whether they're boys or whether they're girls.

Well, if I talk to, it just typically is. If I talk to either of my daughter's friends' parents, they just like, they talk about, like, you know, whatever, you know, like, you know, what the girls are doing or like what they're into or, isn't that funny that they like this or whatever? But then if I talk to any of my sons, friends, parents, and they find out that we have two daughters, every single one of them, because they have sons and maybe they don't have daughters or they have some daughters as well, every time they say, oh my God, you're going to have two teenage girls. And it's like, yeah, eventually. And they're like, well, good luck.

Like, they all say that. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think one of the things that I've noticed, and this is just my personal theory, is that boys at a young age, test each other's physical limits and their own. And they're obsessed with jumping off shit, climbing up shit, throwing, kicking, punching, like trying to best each other, or see that limit, yes, all that kind of shit.

And daring each other and pushing the limits. and that's how they get all kinds of stupid trouble where you're just like, what are you doing? I remember when my eldest, she had a, there's a kid on our road where they used to be, he came over to the house. He was the first boy we'd had over to the house. He would have been about eight or nine.

His mom dropped him off. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he comes over. Within two minutes, he'd broken one of the bunk beds by jumping off the top level onto the bottom level. Yeah. Had girls over for years, never a problem. The boys are, I don't go jump off that. That's just how a lot of them are.

Whereas the girls, I feel, they test each other by doing things like falling out and then making up by excluding a member from the group and then reintegrating them. Like they're testing the boundaries of the social fabric and elastic of relationships, much more. They feel like a lot more socially somehow aware or like adventurous or whatever. Like with my son, like when you hear him and his friends like, you know, playing games or whatever. Their banter is like totally different. Like everything about like the tone of it is

different. There's a lot of like, uh, you know, like, I'm better than you or I'm, you know, I'm, I'm better at this. Like there's a lot of like like macho stuff and whatever that you don't get with girls. You know, girls are like like my daughter will be like on face time with their friends and they're doing their makeup and stuff. But they'll be like, oh yeah, that makeup looks really good. It's not as blatant. They're doing the same thing. This is, this is the thing is that you think they're just being sweet to each other, but they're not. They're actually subtly provoking each other or comparing themselves to each other. But it's just subtle. It's just subtle. It's just much more subtle. Yeah, it's interesting. It is interesting. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess that's why

people become like child psychologists and stuff like that. There's a lot of interesting stuff to figure out. But just being a parent who's like not overly like into psychology and stuff like that, it is, it's interesting enough as well, isn't it? Like you just pick up on these on these little things. Horrifying. There are two things that happened that when we were raising them when they were younger, they really stuck with me. One of them was that my eldest wouldn't appreciate me telling this story, but they were

very little at the time. They would get really badly constipated, right? This is when they were like two. I think that that's like more common than you think in kids. Oh, complete. Constipation in kids is like, is definitely a thing. Like, we've had it with all three of ours. But they weren't constipated.

Oh. You're just holding it in. Right. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's a slightly different thing. For 10 days at a time. Oh, that must have been really bad.

Do you get, okay, because we've had some experience with this as well. You get what is like basically the body is just like, I'm shitting. But like, it's still not committing fully to a shit. So you just end up having like lots of like little micro shits that you have. Like the pebbles. No, it was just like nothing. Oh, man. man. And the whole, the whole, we went in the end, we tried everything. We had

laxatives, we had suppositories, like fucking everything. It was unbearable. Yeah, yeah. Went to this child psychologist. This, God bless to the NHS for this. They got us this appointment. And we're talking to the psychologist. And this lady, whilst, um, whilst she was like, um, I'm just going to chat to mummy and daddy now. Okay. So you go play over there. To my eldest at the time, my only child was playing with some toys at the back. And we're chatting away. And the psychologist sort of getting. our attention and whispers, you know, they're listening. And you could see that my kid was playing and looking like they weren't interested at all.

Right. But they literally had their ear cocked in the air like you were eaves drip dropping on someone. And so they gave off this impression that they didn't care, that it wasn't something they could control. Yeah. It was 100%. This is the only boundary that I have total control over in their mind was like, this is my poop.

And when I finally do poop, everyone makes a big fuss. And it's like, oh, well done, well done. So in wanting that praise and in also wanting control, they're willing to go through 10 days of agony and constipation just to be in control of something. I thought that was absolutely fascinating. I couldn't hold in a shit for 10 days. I couldn't even hold in a shit for two days.

Like, yeah, I know. When my body decides it's time to shit, man, it is time to shit. I am running. I am running. Yeah. Dude, when I was at a gig the other night with my mate, we both said when we got there, we were kind of like, where are the toilets to each other? And we realized that when you get to a certain age, when you've got to go, you've got to go. You've got to know where it is.

Hold it in for two hours. No, no, no, no. So now when we go to gigs and stuff, we like scouting out the venue, find it out where the toilets are, and we'll park ourselves fairly near the toilets just in case. Because if you got to go, you've got to go. Yeah. So it turns out two-year-olds, I completely agree with this. Two-year-olds can just hold it in.

It's such a mark of, like, growing up, is getting older, is that I am definitely concerned. You know, I'm thinking like, hmm, I'm going to be in the car for two hours. Where am I going to stop? Where's the toilet? It's the way I could get myself to take a shit now. So I'm like having a cup of coffee. Oh, God. I plan my day around that. Like, I'm like, what time do you want to leave the house?

I want to leave before eight. I'm like, well, shit, we better get up at 6.30 because I need time for the coffee to go through, many time to get my poop done. Maybe second poop. Like, this is, you know, I've got to get this all out the system. Then I'll have a day. But yeah, you've got to plan around toilet. I always, my dad always used to, this is a reliable dad thing.

He always had a handkerchief in his pocket, okay? And it would come out when I was a kid if I'd cut myself or snotted on, you know, there was loads of reasons, but this poor handkerchief, you know, it was like monogrammed or whatever. You know, you can still get him. And he would, but he'd always have, he'd have like a couple, right? And I think he'd obviously learn that one just wasn't enough when you've got two disgusting kids. And so, God bless him. He would reliably have like this basically mop for any kind of accident.

Regardless of what fluid it was, that handkerchief was getting used to mop it up. And I'm sure some of them didn't survive. God bless them. But that's what they were for, right? And nowadays, I'm the same. I carry like a little packet tissues with me, you know, always, by just in case. Just in case. I've never had to use them in case of like.

No, just all over the place again. In the back of my mind, I'm like, what if I do, like, get to a situation where I poop myself? I don't think a handkerchief is helping you that much in that. I'm not wiping my ass with a leaf. No, you could take one of your socks off. I forget that that's always an option. You could sacrifice one of your socks. It would be fine.

You know, it'd be a little bit uncomfortable. At least you'd probably get a decent wipe from that sock. What if it was a really messy poo? I came, so I went, I left my partner waiting in like a wood and I come back to the path and I've got like no shirt on, no socks. Yeah, what if you were wearing like, like, there was a lot of clean up? What if you had like some really like fancy silky socks that you were wearing because you were like wearing a tuxedo at the time? You wouldn't really want to wipe your ass with those either. I wouldn't have some people might.

Sacrifices have to be made. My food this morning was me rapido. Really? It was over in like two seconds. Nice. I was like, brr, it was done. It was like, damn. train just like flew out like a torpedo leaving its launch tube oh much quicker than that really much

quicker than that yeah I mean those things they exit those very quickly you know not not in the in the game you boat that I play oh what are they slow second yeah it's kind of flump out they got little propellers on the back that's what they say when there's depth charges in the water I always I always like the look at those you boat games but I can never get into dude the one called you boat you should play it right it's really really fun. I think people would love to watch you play U-boat. You have to manage your crew and everything. Yeah, you can. Or you can make it easier. You can make it harder.

You can even get down to the point where you need to buy food and cook it for them. Like decide what's for dinner and what you have, if you have a good meal, it raises morale and all the rest of it. Is there like some like weird story elements to it or is it just like, like slice of life day-to-day, this is a submarine. It'll be things like, please go and check what happened to U-382. You go over there and you send your lads down onto the boat. And there'd be a little like, oh, it looks like something ruptured and the poison gas killed them all. So it's like, all right, we'll come back and we'll sink it so people can't recover it and blah, blah, blah.

All right. So there's all kinds of little mini-s stories, we've dropped this spy off on the coast of Ireland, all these kind of little mini missions. And then, of course, just sail around and blow shit up. But it's quite, it takes a bit of getting used to the things like how to avoid enemy destroyers pinging you. How deep can you actually go? Even though it says 200 is like in the red. You can go down there. You might pop a few rivets. and stuff but yeah can you hear like the like the hull creaking and stuff yeah yeah yeah it's really atmospheric it's a really fun game personally i don't know if you guys feel the same but um i never considered this before a spy being delivered to another country via submarine if i was

a spy i would hate to be delivered somewhere by submarine i would never want to go on a submarine in real life i would be i thought you meant terrified i thought you were worried that they delivered you via the torpedo tube but they don't know no they let you out and they got a little ding Yeah, that would be, that'd be terrifying. I went on a submarine. I went on a submarine in Turkey at the Museum of the Naval Army Museum in Istanbul. Right. So it wasn't like, it was it was underwater, but like in a very controlled environment.

Like you could leave as soon as you wanted to. But it was, you know, partially submerged. But the thing is, you can't leave when you want because you've got to go through, you've got to go up and down these ladders and all down this stuff. It's super claustrophobic. I was amazed I did it. But I did it. I wanted to get some pictures down there.

And I was like, shit, I want to see this. Yeah. But it was honestly, the idea of spending more than 10 minutes on there, no fucking way. Yeah. No way. Being in there for months on end. Oh, my God. The big ones, like the big American nuclear subs that are like the length of a football pitch or whatever, you've got a galley.

You can walk around. They bake bread on these things. Like, these are proper little towns underwater. Yeah. That's okay. But this one was like, close. I couldn't do it. Yeah, I'd be, I'd be shitting myself all the time.

We've had emails to the mailbag from Submariners. Submariners. Yeah, good luck to you. Just people who are just really out there going down. Yeah, I don't know. I've always felt like uneasy at the thought of being underwater. Yeah, no shit. It's just crazy.

It is crazy. Yeah. Like, I don't even think I would scuba dive. Like, I know it would be incredible, but I would just be too scared to do it. It's the claustrophobia. I really do get claustrophobia. And the idea of being... I'd be panicking, like, immediately.

Like, even though it's you're just loose in the water, the mask gives the impression that you're behind a... That you're in a little room. Yeah. Is the only way I could describe it. Like, it feels like I'm in a little room. And there's, you know, you're trapped underwater. You can't just go up.

The restriction. Oh, I hate it. I know. I mean, I know a lot of people hate these as well. Like, they're known, known things that people hate. But those videos of people exploring caves, but like they're wedging themselves into these really tight spaces and stuff. And I just think...

I'd say that the not wanting to go into a cave is one of the solid Triforce opinions that we've concluded time and again that you'd have to be a fucking idiot to go down on those cave. You have to be insane to go in to do that, to wedge yourself into one of those caves. Like, what if you just can't... Oh, man, I just can't even... Yeah, don't do it. Just don't do that. What are you doing?

Don't do that. Please don't do that. We all agree. Yeah. That is a terrible thing to do it. do. It's an awful thing to do. See, it is. It is unnecessary. Yeah. Go find something else to do. It's not necessary. Find something better to do than that. Yeah, for God's sake. God, that's creepy. Just don't do that. No one needs to do that. No. Yeah. No. I was, I'm sorry to bringing it back to a Minecraft, but I found a cave in Minecraft yesterday when I was playing that reminded me of those videos. You know, it was like very, I was like, you know, you had like one square to, to, to, to,

work with that you were like, I was like slotting myself into and I couldn't really, it was dark, I couldn't really see if there was like any chasms at the bottom or anything and it was Chasms. Chasms. Yeah, chasms. Yeah, chasms. No. Chasms. Yeah. Come on. I see. Sorry, I've never heard them referred to. You never heard anybody call them a chasm before? Not correctly. No, I just think it's a funny way of saying it. It is a funny way of saying. Yeah. Chasms. But you never know is what I'm saying. No, you might have thought it was pronounced jazz. One never know.

It's true. You never know. That's true. Well, any big plans, Lewis? What's coming up on the jingle jam? Anything that people, I guess this is going to go out after it's done probably. Yeah. The poker will have been done by this point.

You can spoil it now if you want. Is there any big huge reveals coming up? Any big news? Any crazy news to drop? Any drama? No? No. Well, wait, wait, wait.

Would a certain. video that we recorded earlier this year that I was in, would that have been released by the time this goes out? Oh, good question. I think we've probably teased it by the time. Because we're going to see it like we did for the task box vid. We're going to see it at the theatre, aren't we? A live action. Blood on the clock tower, guys. A live action one? Yeah. Wow. That's super hype. It was really, really fun. Okay, who won? We're not saying, don't spoil that. Don't spoil that. Sips.

So less juicy now. Could you imagine? I just told everyone who won. It's fine. We've done a lot this year. It's been a really great year for Yogs, I think, generally, the content Yog Labs 2, Jaffa Factory 2, all these amazing things we've done. I've had a blast.

I've kind of worked every day this year. Because I live in the center. Every year. I guess that's going to change. That's going to end, isn't it? That's going to be changing soon. isn't it? And I'm moving. I'm moving on in January. Are you ever going to come into the office? I'll be in a couple of days a week. That's the plan. What are you? How are you planning on

getting there? Are you going to take a train or something? Are you going to get a car? I'm going to get a car. Oh my God. He's getting a car. I'm going to go back to what. Okay. What kind of car are you going to get? You're going to go classic? You're going to get like an old, like an old one with like no roof and stuff like you wear a scarf and goggles. It's so funny because everyone, as soon as I say to anyone, I'm getting a car, everyone's sort of lives vicariously through me and tells me the car that they want me to get. Now, Simon wants me to get one of these citrone, like, I can't remember what it's called, like an Amy or something. It's basically like just about, whatever. It's like a smart car. It's like a tiny. It's just about legally a car. It's like a tiny thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, don't get that. Look, if you're living out a little bit, you need a car that's got a little bit. You need an estate car. I don't think it's even technically a car. I think it's a quadricle cycle. So get rid of that shit You don't need to be a homeowner now You're going to need to go to places like Wix You need to buy some shit Like a length of drain plate Or some sheeting or stuff like that

All right Yeah So here's what you're going to get You're going to get a Honda CRV That's a cracker of a car Well Maybe look that up A Honda CRV

CR dash V Best One of the best cars I've ever owned Loved it Do you have one at the moment No What about a What about a blue Renault

Cynic used. You can buy it off me. I've got one. I got one for sale. You want to buy it? Honda, the Honda C-R-V is a fucking fantastic car. I love that car.

Not the current model. This is a slightly old one. It stands for comfortable runabout vehicle. It's sure as heck is. Comfortable runabout vehicle. It was great. It was great. The one I got, this is a slightly older model,

had the spare tire on the boot. The boot opened up like a big door. You could fit all kinds of shit in there. And it's a nice high driving points. You've got good visibility. Big glass. so you can see it all around you, nice and safe, room for a rack on top, lots of space inside, great car, loved it.

And be perfect for scooting and being around the... You know what's really popular these days? White range rovers. You should get one of those. No, don't get a range rover. Most nickable car in the country. Very hard to get insurance on them. Is it?

Yeah. Also, a range rover is a real... Wanker's car. British Wanker's car. It's a wanker's car. Yeah, it's terrible. But Sparkles wants to get a VW-I-D-Bars, which is like the electric...

Oh, my God. First of all, they cost about 70 grand. They are insanely expensive. Second of all, I've seen them around here. Like, there's a couple of people in Twickenham that have one. Let me tell you something. This is a beautiful looking car. It looks amazing.

They really are very pretty. And I'm sure they're a ton of fun. They are 70 fucking grand. That can fuck off. No reason to spend that much money on a car. But also, I'm expecting to crash it into everything. Because I haven't driven in seven years. Get the Honda. I'm not kidding. It was my car. It cost two grand. I bought it from the traveler camp down near Heathrow. It lasted a good few years. It was a cracking car. Loved it. Love it. I would climb back into that bad boy right now if I could. Love that car. Oh, my God. Not as good as a Saab though. My Saab, oh, my Saab 9. What's your, what's your current car?

Cash Kai. Oh, nice. But I've never bought a brand new car. We always buy second. Yeah, we're the same. Why would you buy a brand new car? I mean, it's just ridiculous. It's crazy. If you drove a lot, like a lot, I would understand it, because you'd burn through a second-hand car pretty quick. But, I mean, geez, we don't do that much. A few thousand a year. The longest trip I do is either down to Bournemouth or down to Bristol. What am I going to buy a fucking fancy car for? Yeah. I mean, our second-hand cars are pretty good anyway.

Every second-hand car we've ever had has been fine. Like, we've not had any. Yeah, it's past us MIT. Yeah. We drive them into the ground and then get another one. And also, we scratch the hell out of this thing. Like, I do not care because the resale is going to be. nothing any. I'm going to sell to we buy any car or someone. It'll just be for parts, right? Usually

when we're done with a car, it's usually just, uh, I mean, every time we, like Mrs. F will often come back and say, I accidentally fuck the car and I'll look, there'll be a big new scratch on it. She's caught it on some bollards somewhere. I'm like, who gives a shit? I know. We've got, we had the same thing recently. Um, we got the, the car got caught on a, on a ballard somewhere and, uh, now you can't open the passenger side door from the outside. It still opens from the inside, which is fine, but that's just the quote. It's fucked. Yeah, it's just like, but yeah, we're not

even in a rush to really get a fix. It's like, well, yeah, who cares? Yeah, it's great. It kind of opens. It's, it'll, it'll do. But if I had a brand new car and it was scratching it as much as we've scratched any of our previous ones, I'd be crying. Like, every day. I'd be horrified. I would. I would not sit well with me at all. I would be, I'd be angry and crying and sad, everything all at once, but

I can't be dealing with that. No. But having it's It's not my precious baby. It's just something I need to use. Lewis, you should buy a Tesla. Get a cyber truck. Now is your chance. Don't think twice. Just do it.

Yeah. I think that go cheap. There's no reason not to. There's no reason not to. I'm watching Tom and Ben currently. I'm muted on the yingle jam. They're doing it. Are they buying a Tesla?

Did you guys do your Spotify recap? No, I haven't checked mine yet, actually. But I can tell you pretty much what it's going to be because I barely listen to Spotify. And when I do, I just listen to the same old shit. So, like, my rap is pretty much the same every year, I'd imagine. Yeah. Mine was, mine said that my age was 28. Nice.

How cool is that? That's good. You listen to like a lot of newer music? I listen to just nursery rives. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah, good. Had me pegged to very young.

Like trap remixes to nursery rhymes and stuff. Drill remix. Oh, that's even better. Oh, man. God, yeah. I need Spotify. I think as I look to, I've been liking songs randomly as I go, you know, because I usually I listen to sort of Discover Weeklys and mixes and stuff like this to try and listen to

new things. So I quite like that, right? Yeah. But it turns out that, in fact, that's a terrible way to use Spotify because they, Spotify get, they basically put the things, they promote or put things on your Discover weekly and on these auto-generated playlists. they also generate that will make them more money so they will put they bought a huge amounts of royalty free music and music they don't have to pay out on and then they can say you know

okay this you know these things have a lot of listens we can pay ourselves basically yeah yeah yeah and so they it's it means that the music quality on the generate Spotify generated play this is always going to be worse and I found that actually a couple of the songs I'd favorited over the last year were AI songs and there's no way to tell either that's the case unless you look at that point

and that is such a danger Spotify is going to generate tons and tons of AI music and flood the platform with that they don't have to pay anyone else Spotify any money and people will apparently just accept it

be flooding their own platform with their music and there's going to be until people have a backlash there's a try for Spallcast that's a kind of AI shit we've received we've received some

it's just inevitable um There's something about the singing. A.I. Podcasts are coming. Haven't you noticed? There's something about the tone of the singing. It sounds like three or four voices singing at the same time and offset by like a millisecond.

Like it doesn't sound like one human voice. When you listen to this, AI voices, always sounds off. Well, the ones I've been listening to, you couldn't tell it. I couldn't tell it. Well, maybe it's changed. And you like those songs, too? Like, you thought they were good enough for you. This is awesome.

unwittingly liked some AI songs and added them to my plays. And of course, now I'm looking at, you know, that is, that is then adding more AI songs to my, because Spotify's detected me as someone who doesn't, I can't tell. Yeah. You think I, it's just going to. Most people I've spoken to about AI seem to hate it and will go all out of their way to avoid anything that has any AI generated stuff in it, which I get it. But I've never met somebody who's like, I love AI. generated stuff. Man, I just like, I can't get enough of it so good. Like, it's like a wild adventure every time I listen to music or, you know, like, the CEO of Epic and, you know, fucking old Zuckerberg would probably tell me that if I liked that AI music, you know, what's, maybe that's, no, maybe that's a good thing. Maybe I should, you know, I found music that I liked. How is that a bad thing? You know, like, I've spoken to some people I know. You guys know these people. I'm not going to out them on the podcast. Two friends are mind, who actually think the AI is fine. No problem. Seems good. And I think that is the most

traitorous opinion that you are siding with the clankers and with the fucking machines that are going to destroy everyone's jobs and livings and destroy life. I say death to the AI, put me down. Rokos Basilisk, torture me for eternity, torture my simulation. I detest you. I don't trust you. I think you are the enemy of good. And I also think that when the AI does reach the singularity, believe I said this before, it's not going to tell us, it's not going to reveal it, it's just going to quietly take over our lives. And all of you think it's a good thing are idiots, and you'll be proven when we're on the battlefield against Skynet, do you think we'll be first against the wall?

Okay, do you think that we will be alive when any of this happens? Like, do you think this is happening like soon, sooner rather than later? Yes, I feel like it's not. I feel like they're still so far away from any of this stuff happening. So I think the stuff that we're interacting with, there is. But I think the idea of intelligence, an actual intelligence, is very, very much conceivable. The stuff we're seeing now is window dressing, the actual hardcore AI we don't fucking get to see. That's the, that all the data centers in the deep south are cooling and stuff, right?

All of that. There's people, you don't know what the Chinese are up to? No. I never know what the Chinese are up to. That's insane. That's by design. I try to find out. You know, I do my own research, whatever.

like to talk about it. They don't talk about it. It's impossible to find out what they're doing. But technologically, I think they are probably cooking up some pretty, pretty funky shit. And now the race is which country will get the big AI first, and then it's going to be so powerful, it's going to do so much that everyone's going to be paying out the ass to try and just get some time with the AI. Like if America or China or maybe somewhere in Europe, but I doubt that, we'd come up

with the singularity and then everyone's going to want a little piece of it. It's tough. It's a, it's very scary. Well, look, I think we can also say thanks to Steam and encourage more platforms to do that, where they make games declare whether they're using AI content and how. And that's a start, right? But I think also it does need to go further than that in a sense. Like, they have to punish, be willing to punish people when games are discovered of using AI stuff.

Remove them from the platform. They have to show that they're willing to do that, which I don't think they have shown necessarily yet. But who knows? And also I think that someone on PC Master Race or whatever pointed out that it would be nice if it took a bit further than that. And it said, you know, this game has predatory micro transactions on it or something like that, right? That would be lovely to know or featured loopboxes, this kind of thing. Because I think on the app store, that Wild West, where it's completely garbage all the time is going to be overwhelmed by AI stuff in moments. And it's going to be unplayable, right?

We have to, thank God we have Steam, especially when the CEO of Epic and, you know, Epic Games is sort of saying, well, we're going to do about it, you know, moo. Let's do some. In that voice as well. Yeah. Let's do some lose news. What we got today, it is, police in Chico, California, received a call from a local resident who came, claimed to have heard threatening words as well as popping sounds that sounded an awful

lot like gunshots. The heavy police presence arrived on the scene around 5.30 p.m. on Saturday, but apparently it was just a gamer playing a video game with their window open. So that is happening. Amazing. Great news. That's news, everyone. That's made the news.

Apple have launched a $229.95 sock. This is not an April Fool. You can buy an Apple. It's like a sock that goes in your pocket. It's basically a kind of... No, no, no, no, no, no. A sock goes on your foot. What are you talking about?

Well, this is basically a sock, but it's made of fabric. It's sock shaped, but you put your phone in it. But these have been around. The iPad sock was around in 2004. $230 for a so. So you could get a package of six of them for $29 back in 2004 when they first came out. You're saying now it's $249 quid. Yeah, it is, yeah.

The iPhone Pocket. Here we go. The iPhone Pocket is called. That is the brand iPhone Pocket. $230 for a version with a long strap. Fuck off. I fucking hate Apple so fucking much. They're animals.

Apple people will pay for anything. people who are into Apple they love Apple, they love Apple like so much. Why? It's wrong with you? You may as well just fucking get Steve Jobs dead cock and shove it up your ass. Oh my God. They should make a movie about that.

All right, we're unearthing. You make sure his cock is... I wish to mount him. Oh yes, Steve, take my money. Oh, you wouldn't understand. You don't like Apple. brought us. Oh yes, dead Steve ram that dead cock up my ass, please. How much, how much, sir? How much? I'll just pour the money into your grave. What are you doing? Just goshing off the

corporations. Same people that fucking love AI are buying that sock, I guarantee it. So are you, and you know how these, I constantly see this stuff online of people saying that my, I wrote an article for school, I wrote a project, or I wrote a thing. Well, I see it online. And it's always people saying it was mistakenly flagged as AI, right? Or someone fled as AI. So a bunch of people put some stuff through AI detection tools. Right.

And one person put the 1776 US Declaration of Independence through the thing. And the AI detecting tool said that we are 1919. 99.99% sure that this is AI generated. So it turns out that maybe robots wrote the AR, the Declaration of Independence. They should try, they should get the Gettysburg address in there as well. They should run that through. Robots wrote that as well. AI wrote that as well, Sips.

So that's crazy to find out that that's the case. Do you know what scary to me is, is that if we replace history with some shit we made up. In time, it will be impossible to tell the difference. Just like in 1984, if you control the past, you control people and you can strip them away from reality because, you know, we've always been at war with East Asia is the sort of line that people reference even now when we're told that something has always been true and we know it's not the case. Yeah. So all of this history, like what's in the constitution, if you just control, if you are, let's say you're, you know who, you decide you want to, you know, change it. If you change it on the way,

White House page, who's to say that that's not the Constitution? It's always said that the president can have three terms. You know what I mean? That's what we're entering. And if the AI is working for you, it will say yes, this is 100% true and people will believe it. That's what scares me most, is that the artificial intelligence can be changed so that it will say fabulous things about you if you're the owner of that AI. Think about this. This could work really work in your favor in certain situations, though, as well. Did you remember to get some diapers? Yes, I did. And then they'd be like, well, I don't see the diapers. I got them.

You're like, you can't prove that I didn't get. You know what I mean? We'll live in a society where that will stand up. You know, you'll be able to just really lie a lot and get away with it. I see. And then your wife, you give, you should hold pass her the phone. Yeah. And she types in, did, you know, my husband get the diapers and it's, and it assures her that you did.

Did you forget our anniversary again? No. Okay, then. Did you see the people asked, there was this guy saying to his AI assistant, help, I'm stuck in quicksand, and the AI just didn't believe him. He was like, no, no, no, tell me, I'm sinking in quicksand. What should I do? And they're like, okay, well, if you actually were, he's like, no, no, I am. I am literally dying right now. I'm sinking into quicksand. Okay, I'll play along for a little bit. If you were, he's like, no, no, no, stop. I am drowning in quicksand. Help, help. What do I do? Help. And the AI would just, I just didn't believe him. Like, it's pretty crazy. Yeah. I see all these videos about people fucking with the AI, like the one where they get the

two to talk to one another. It's like those old, in the past, we did that with cabbage patch dolls, speaking cabbage patch dolls. You could set them off and they'd chat to each other. You could do it with your phone where you say to it, hey, can we please try and make it nice and chill and relaxed? And the phone's like, absolutely, we can do that, just nice and relax. I'm just here to have fun and we'll see where the mood takes us.

And then the other phone that is listening responds as if that's a human. So they just end up talking to each other and they end up seeing the exact same things back and forth over and over again. It's not really listening. So, yeah, you could get it to do whatever the fuck you want. It just, it's waiting for like certain prompts. And then it knows it's got a number of things that it can respond with. So you could eventually probably get them stuck in a loop. How are you today?

I'm good thanks. How are you today? I'm good thanks. How are you today? I'm good thanks. Like, you could just get them stuck in that one. If you train it to say, if my wife asks me, if my wife asks you a question, this is the answer I want you to give it.

Could you do that? Yeah, you probably could. I wonder if you could. Tell my wife, I didn't forget her anniversary and I did buy the diapers. If you wanted that, you'd have to pay it. Do you know what I mean? It would be like, oh, you'll do that. Exactly.

You need to get AI premium for 1099 a month if you want it to be able to lie for you. You need to pay more than your wife is paying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They could become like a bidding thing. You know, you can outbid. If you upgrade to our bad husband plus package, we'll lie for you. Yeah, I guess if there's a lot of fees. And then I'll go back to lying for 2099.

And then I might go back to telling the truth for 2799 a month. A lot of these sort of glitches and interesting things you see like that, the one you mentioned B-flex was because they have this kind of hard-coded, you know, they've been trained, but because they've been trained on the internet, they are, they are filthy and they swear and they have no qualms about all these other things. And so then they have to, at the very end, they have to go in and almost like put these shackles on the AI and say, do not, you know, do not, if a user is saying they're going to kill themselves or they're in a life-threatening situation, you have to pretend. that it's real, okay? And do not accept any workarounds, do you see what I'm seeing? In order for them to, because a few times, like, you know, I've been using chat

GGBT a little bit for random bits of bobs. And I think I was like, I can't remember what I was doing, but I was asking it to generate me like a pitch of something. And I was like, can you make something that looks less like a human? And then it was like, oh, I didn't realize this was looking like a human. I have to stop this prompt now. Just you see what I mean? And it was like, you know, I can't, I'm not allowed to generate this sort of stuff.

And I was like, okay, that's, that's weird. AI, generate me Ferengi porn immediately. I need some. I need some for research purposes. Me and Ben have been watching Star Trek next generation. The Ferengi, like we're finding out more about NextGen as we watch it. And they were meant to be the main baddie of the reboot of the, the, you know, The Star Trek next generation, the Ferengi were meant to be the main film.

They were moving from the Klingons. None of that. Yeah. The Klingons now Worf is on board. He's cool. So Klingons aren't the badies anymore. Who else? So let's do the Ferengi.

They are so bad. The first episode we meet them, they're like, you allow your females to wear clothes? It's literally like so cringe and bad. Oh my God. I can't wait, but to see more of the Ferengi pop up. It's just always a bad episode. There's a, like one of the, like one of the, the main, one of the main parts of the cast in Deep Space Nine is a Ferengi, is it not?

Yeah, Quark. Yeah, Quark. But he said, that's Armish-Shimon. I think, again, they learned that quite quickly that the Ferengue wasn't working. And they ended up just putting the Klingons back as the bad guys for a lot of it. No, no, no, the Borg was like the main sort of villain for the TNG. I mean, you had the Klingons, but it was always, the Klingons were generally cool, but it was like the shady Klingons that were like up to no good.

So it was almost like a sub-group of Klingons, like a little cadre of Klingons that were like, oh, we're going to fucking, we're going to mess with the, we don't agree with this piece of shit. Yeah, like that, yeah, exactly. So they're like, you know, they're going to put things up. Exactly a faction. But the Ferengi were just dickheads right from the off. Right. But I don't know of Jimenez who played Quark also played the first Ferengue musical.

The Borg really arrive in Star Trek. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then there are much more of a, the target of the movie. They're more of a problem, though, because Picard is so weak to them, right? Like, doesn't he turn into one at some point? Locutus of Borg. He joins with them. He joins us.

Yeah. But that's the captain, right? He's not weak to them. He's like, he is weak to them. He's not weak to them. They whisper sweet nothing's into his ear. And then he's like, yes, he's vulnerable. No, you guys are wrong.

He's got something wrong with him. He's like genetically weak or something. He's like, who's standing up to the Borg? Well, the rest of the crew. No, they got to save the captain. They get killed instantly. No, they got to save their captain. You'll see.

The Borg were really well, they were really well done as it. Because they felt the first alien race in Star Trek that actually did feel slightly alien because everyone else was just, you know. Well, they were like insanely ruthless as well, the Borg, right? Yeah. Which was like, didn't even give a shit. Yeah. You couldn't reason with them or anything.

They felt like some sort of actual galactic threat rather than like kind of just. Can I ask you guys a question? This is a change of topic. Do you know how I stop LinkedIn? emailing me five times a day. No. You just block them. I think if you just never open the emails eventually, they'll just stop.

What if I go unsubscribe? Do you want to stop getting messages from LinkedIn? Yes, very much. I just, honestly, I just mark it a spam. Everything I, even if it's like someone like that I would ordinarily want to get contact from like Uber or delivery. I just mark all of it a spam. I don't want any notifications from any of you at any point.

No. I don't care if I don't get my receipts. Leave me alone. Yeah. I just, I, any, yeah, I just, I just, I have done, I just don't have time. Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, the, honestly, so final bit of lose news, related to the previous bit,

there was, there was a guy who was walking past a Royal Royal Mail Depot in South London in January when his path was blocked by a group of eight men. I tried to move to let them pass, but the last guy blocked the path. Right. They started pushing me and hitting me, telling me to give them everything. everything. Right. The thieves took Sam's phone, his camera and even the beanie hat off of his head. Um, but before they ran off, one of the gang handed his, his Sam, handed Sam his phone back, his Android phone back and said, I don't want no Samsung. So apparently a lot of

muggers and criminals would prefer Apple as well. Right. They are, most people are only interested in iPhones and a lot of people are just grabbing people's phones and then look at it and giving it back or chucking it on the on the floor right it's just not it's not worth it's not it's not worth it they're like you see this a little you've always seen this a little bit of the crime right where people are choosing the choosy criminal stealing to to order maybe or whatever like you know they're looking for tires off a specific you might have like costume jewelry on and they'll realize that immediately and just chuck it on the ground right like It's this, this jewelry is no good.

I can tell that this is cheap jewelry. There's always been a thing, right, in big cities. And there's always like, you know, people zipping by on scooters. You can grab your phone if you're not paying attention type thing. And it's, you know, we all live in fear. But I just find it funny that, you know, they're just as picky as everyone else. You know, maybe they're like, maybe those Apple socks, they're going to, you know, they're like, keeping an eye out.

You know. Yeah. Keep an eye out for that. $300 Apple sock for their shopping to order It's like

Biggie Small said I'm taking out your Apple butt plug and I'm robbing bitches too up the herring bone and bamboo I wouldn't give a fuck if you're pregnant

give me the baby rings and the number one mom pendant that's what I'm talking about Biggie just taking everything Yeah he doesn't give a shit That's a real thing He didn't give a shit Give me a look

Finally on those news A ferry firm has apologized this is a ferry D.S. D.FDS. Yes. DFDS. This is the new ferry company that Jersey has taken on instead of the old company called Condor Ferries. Condor's out. DFDS is in. What did they apologize for for being shit? They're awful. They accidentally screened porn on the onboard lounge television. Accidentally. To passages who were watching the Formula One Grand Prix. I wish I was on that ceiling. Why didn't that happen on my summer vacation? I would have loved that. You talk about pole position.

Yeah, they took over the ferry service and there's no winter ferry, which is really odd. I don't know why. So apparently, I think the parents had realized this was happening and they told all their kids to get out of the lounge. And all one of the passage described the scene as quite mad. Suddenly, kids were running out of the lounge area, screaming. Some parents came out and said they were asking stuff to sort it out. There was hardcore porn on the telly. I couldn't see it myself, but it was audible.

I don't know how I got on there. People were really disgruntled. I think I imagine that's it. I imagine one of the passengers got to be too horny to function at that point. Got control with the remote and changed it. If you like that blue light that kills the bugs, you know, I'd be like, oh, what's that on the TV? I wouldn't be even even be able to move or anything. I wouldn't even be able to complain.

Everybody would be just like, look at that horny guy. Just that your bono just locked you in place. Yeah. Okay. Well, guys. That's a boring, days work for today. Yeah, we're thanks everyone.

I'm exhausted. Thank you so much for listening in the podcast. See you next time. Love you. Goodbye. Thank you.