Triforce! - Suck me or I'll Die | Triforce #320

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

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It's been a little couple of weeks of half term holiday for some. Yes, for children, for children. As a result, people with children have been having either a trip away or having to try and figure out how to have them looked after and juggle work. Hey, listen, listen to this one. Listen to this one. We were meant to go away. We were meant to just go to France for a couple of days. Everybody was looking forward to it. Good times, everything. Everybody. All of us, my whole family, all five of us, were looking forward to going away. The night before we hadn't started packing yet.

And my wife got all the passports out. She looked at her passport and she's like, Oh shit, I gotta renew my passport. So it's like, Oh, how long do you have left on it? She's like, I don't know, just like under three months. I was like, ah, we're fucked. Like we can't go. Yeah. Uh, because you have to have at least three months left on your passport now to travel to Europe. And because we left the EU, it's even more strict now.

So we had to cancel. It sucked. There you go. You didn't have to cancel the whole thing. We had to cancel the whole thing. They wouldn't have let us in. And at first we were like, maybe we can just chance it. And we kind of thought like, we better not just in case we get there

and they deny us and the kids start crying and getting scared and stuff. You know, it's not like it's not like the longest journey ever. It's like an hour on the boat or whatever. But, you know, it's a lot of upheaval just to get there and be denied. So we decided to just cancel and not go. And we spoke to a bunch of people after and everybody's like, oh my God, you did the right thing. Like there's no fucking chance in hell they would have let you in.

Like there's so... International border guards and stuff are so strict, like there's no way. So I feel like it sucks, but you know, at least we didn't accidentally go. Because it would have been worse. You're like the kind of family of five who would be immigrants looking to stay there illegally for longer than three months.

Absolutely. I mean, I had my Chicago Bulls hat ready to go and everything. I was ready to pitch up. I was ready to fucking join a gang once I got there and everything. France is very alluring, very alluring place. And you know, they just can't help us. Just wanted to immerse myself in gang culture as soon as I got there, you know? I think that's, if you go on holiday, you really should immerse yourself in the local culture. So if you go to somewhere that's got a lot of gang troubles, you should join the gang. Right. Absolutely. If you can't beat them, join them.

I'm thinking that these gangs are on to a moneymaker because they could run tourist days where you can join your gang for a day, motherfucker. And it's the same. You do a few drive bys. You rob a few liquor stores. Yeah. Gang for a day. Motherfucker. And it's the same. You do a few drive-bys. You rob a few liquor stores. Yeah. Yeah. Shoot another gang guy. Enemy gang guy. Yeah, that can be like that. Can be the that can be the finale at the end of the day. And at the end of your day out, you get to bust a cap.

Everyone will enjoy a cap on the ass of one of those bastards who wears blue. We wear red. Yeah. So, yeah. So our, so our, our Easter holiday plans were scuppered right at the, at the final hour, but, um, so it goes. That is a disaster. Yeah. Yeah.

So it goes. We, we had a good week anyway. I think we, we made up for it. You know, like there's, there was some disappointment. People were bummed out for a couple of days, but, uh, I think we made up for it. There was some disappointment. People were bummed out for a couple of days, but I think we turned it around. It was alright. Went to see the Minecraft movie, which was, you know, didn't fall asleep during it. Which is my measure of whether a movie is okay or not.

I, we enjoyed it. We went with, I mean, obviously we've got a long history with Minecraft. They did invite us to the premiere in London. But they have a habit, YouTube, and these other people, of treating a YouTube channel as one person. They just assume that that's how it is. And in reality, any YouTube channel of any decent size is not just one person. It's at minimum that person is going, it's not what it goes to an event on their own. They're going to want to go with their partner or perhaps the person who runs the channel or perhaps the person who edits for the channel. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a huge amount of people involved, even the smallest apparently seeming significant YouTube channels.

And even if it is genuinely a one man job, they're not going to want to go on their own, not knowing anyone to these events. Like, you know, I get invited by YouTube to some event and it's like, how many tickets are there? Oh, it's one and strictly no plus ones. And I'm like, who's going to this? Do you mean who are they? So that's, that's, that's by the by. But I feel like it is the end of an era, right? Like for us, you know, it was 15 years ago or something that we started playing Minecraft and it was, it was integral to like where we got started and Yogs and, and the whole thing that we've, we've, we've got and built. And it's kind of... So we did go. We booked, we didn't book out the whole cinema. We actually just found a showing that was empty and said,

book tickets here people. And so I booked a chair and I was next to someone, I was like, I don't know who I'm going to end up with. You booked a chair. I booked a sofa in Everyman, and for me and my partner, who had had a really bad day and was incidentally like, doesn't really have any knowledge of Minecraft. In real life or in Minecraft? Okay, yes. My partner had a terrible day in Minecraft and we watched the movie. She lost ten diamonds. She was so pissed off. And we booked to see the movie in Minecraft. We could have done that. Honestly,

we could have done a thing where like we just built a cinema in Minecraft. You've lost your touch. In Minecraft. 10 years ago, you guys would have been all over this and now you've lost your touch. If COVID had carried on and we'd all been locked down and still and stuff, I think maybe people would be doing that kind of shit. They're doing a screening in Minecraft, a screening in all these things. You know what I mean?

I feel like that's... We have the technology. There's been mods for about 10 years to watch TV and, you know, films in the game. You know, I think that's an interesting experience. That's just an idea for another time. But I enjoyed the movie. Have you seen it?

P-flags? No, but what I have seen is the... Memes? No, the audience reactions. Oh, the... We didn't have any of that when we went, but no, no, no. But I know people were saying, Oh gosh, this is awful. These zoom audiences or alpha audiences don't know how to control themselves. I was, I've been saying this and I'll die

on this Hill. This is, this should be the future of cinema is having much more rowdy, interactive fun, you know, group activities in the cinema. Cause that's the only thing that they can do that you can't do at home. You can't watch it at home with a group of people. Just like going to a live football match is different because you're in the crowd and you have fun. That's it. That's it. If you think the traditional cinema experience is sitting very quietly in a darkened place and watching the screen, you can do that at home. And's cheaper and you can pause it and go to the toilet. The snacks are in your house, but you couldn't invite 500 other people along for a huge group screening of something.

I agree more. Obviously I don't agree with the throwing popcorn. I do fucking do it. They should encourage that. They should sell fake plastic popcorn. No, no, no. They just have to get a hoover. You just have to get a big hoover for the start and they hoover it up. Or you have a screening where the theatre is almost like a football stadium. Where you've got like terraced fucking seating with just fold up plastic seats. Much easier to clean.

And you don't even, you just have the, this is the live experience movie theater and whatever. I honestly can't agree more. I genuinely, for example, when we went there, there were a few people in the cinema who weren't Yogs people. And I almost like, I almost thought of saying something to them, like, guys, we're going to be laughing and stuff, is that okay? But then I realised like, what am I doing? Because that is... The whole point of this... If you feel it's funny and you guys laugh at it, that's okay. It's not like we're heckling, you know, actively standing up and making a fuss. Wait, so you were going to apologise to people for laughing during a movie?

I was always prepared. Because I didn't quite, we had Simon along and stuff and everyone and O's and you know, Simon is, Simon was making some noises at some various points, you know, when something was weird or funny or whatever. And it was, it was kind of nice to have, it was nice to have the cinema full of people we knew. And so I knew there was going to be a little bit of like, like when people did the chicken jockey or whatever, someone's like, was going to cheer at it or whatever, yell chicken jockey and stuff like this. Like, I don't know. It was, it was these

meme-able moments and people, people, people genuinely are, yeah, you're right. It's more, it has to be more of a communal experience. If I laugh and someone shushes me, that's like, what the fuck? But people don't laugh at the same things. That's the thing. I was sat next to Duncan and I don't think we laughed at the same thing, like, once. He was laughing away at something and then, and I was laughing away at something else that he didn't find funny. I don't know. It was, it was a kind of, but he'd set me off though. Like, like set, we set each other off, like the cinema, I think other people start laughing at stuff that, cause I think, I think otherwise I would, if I watched it at home or in silence, I don't think I would have laughed much at all, but because there were so many weird

bits in the movie and so many cringey bits and so many stupid bits and bad bits too, right? Right. And dumb bits. Like sometimes, like I think I enjoyed it more because I was surrounded by people who were kind of giving me this almost like just sort of running commentary of the movie. And I mean, I obviously, I don't know, I didn't expect to enjoy it, but I think I did. So I can't... Well, I have no intention of seeing it. I did go on holiday. You have no intention of seeing it? No, I have no intention of seeing it. I did go on holiday. You have no intention of seeing it. No, I have no intention of seeing it. Oh, sorry. Fair enough. I'm not

having a go. I'm just saying. Did you guys watch the new series of Black Mirror yet? No. Yes. Why do I watch that? Netflix. Okay. Netflix. I think this is my favorite series of Black Mirror yet. I think every single episode is really fun and really good and some of them are extremely thought provoking. My standout episode is the Thronglets episode with Peter Capaldi, which, because I've watched it myself and then watched it with other people, I've actually seen it three times and I say, bring on the throng. I want to be thronged up, baby. Throng me. Throng me now. It is... each of the episodes is a standalone...

They can reboot the thong song and make it... Throng throng throng throng! That would be sad. That's... now that's a reboot, I think, we need. That sounds like a good one. It's honestly a brilliant return to form after, quite frankly, some ropey seasons. Yeah. I thought last season was... Jonah's Awful was a really good episode. The one where the woman has a Netflix series made about her life that precisely...

Oh, that was very interesting. That was a great episode. But I think the rest of it was like... There were some good moments. But this time there's an episode with Paul Giamatti and that's absolutely brilliant. The Pete Capaldi one that I mentioned, of course, I liked the one with the black and white movie. I know some people didn't like that.

I thought that was a good episode. And I thought the one with Chris O'Dowd and oh God, I can never remember her name. Jason Vale-Solomons-Taylor Karen from the office. Jason Vale-Solomons-Taylor Karen from the office. Yeah. Brilliant episode and genuinely horrifying. But I did think it was interesting that some of the comments in that episode are about how you sign up for one service, but then they add a new layer.

And now the thing that you signed up for has become worse. So for example, if I'm signed up for Netflix, what's to say that they won't add ads to that and then have a new layer that says, oh, this is the ad free, which is Netflix plus. Do you know what I mean? And then that becomes something else. Mason away the greed, right? Overwhelming any kind of other thought. And I think that there is, yeah, a lot of things to be gleaned. A lot of it isn't at all ever going to be a thing. It's complete fantasy, you know, being able to... I always think it's like, what would be the this, but in extremis? So it's just saying, all right, well, you know, AI, whatever, what's the ultimate of

that? And I think that's interesting to explore is where is the worst place this could go? That's still believable. But then also, I think I just really respect Charlie Brooker's way to, cause you can tell almost like he has been inspired, like in that, again, we won't do any spoilers cause you haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I'll watch it.

They're really, they're really worth watching. They're like, the episodes are like self-contained, right? You don't need to... 100% self-contained. Okay. Yeah. And almost, they almost are worth watching in a way where you stop, you don't just binge the thought, right?

Because I think that, I think that's a little bit like doom scrolling on TikTok, right? By the time you're onto the next one, you sort of haven't really had time to digest and like mull it over. Like I genuinely do believe in that, where you have this little break between each episode and are like, what's that? Yeah, digest it a little bit. Think about it. Yeah. Because I think sometimes, you know, I talked to Daph about one of the episodes and we both had really different takes on it. It was really weird. It was like having a water cooler kind of chat. What was the episode you had different takes on? The first episode.

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because it was so kind of, some people think it's like, I don't know, it's not, it's not, none of them are like physically gross out or like, you know, any kind of graphic violence or graphic sex or anything like that. You know, it's not, it's not shock value at all. No, not at all. It's very psychological. No, I'm sorry bud.

Fuck. It's very much like, what happens if people do this? And I guess it's just, yeah, it's frightening, I guess, is what it is. There is one episode which is a sequel to another episode. So you will need to watch the first one of that to watch this one. But other than that, they're all standalone. Yeah, they did rewatch it. Because it's been so long since I saw episodes of Black Mirror.

I just love that tech horror, that near future tech horror. It's way more interesting to me to think, oh shit, I could imagine that. You know what I mean? That doesn't seem that far off. Rather than alien on a spaceship, I'm like, well, who gives a shit? Oh, by the way, was it you, Lewis, that recommended that book about living on Mars, a city on Mars? Did you recommend that? That wasn't me, no.

I guess it must have been one of my viewers, but they recommended a book. It's by Kelly and Zach Wienersmith. It's called A City on Mars. And the subtitle is, yeah, I know, can we settle space? Should we settle space? And have we really thought this through? That's the sort of object of the book. And essentially, they analyze what people are saying about living on other planets, whether we should even do it and what might be some of the difficulties. And honestly, I would say I'm about halfway through. And the conclusion so far is I fucking hope I never have to live on another planet. It's going to absolutely suck. And they know that.

And they're like, here's all the terrible reasons that it would be awful. It's very good. I've been watching for all mankind. Oh, yeah, it's quite good, isn't it? I do find it a bit slow sometimes. What is that? It's an Apple series. Sorry, Lula. Go ahead.

No, go for it. Perfect. OK. It was the Tom Hanks thing. Is it a Tom Hanks thing? No, no, I don't think so. I could be wrong. It's on Apple TV and it is about what if Russia won the space race? OK, sorry. Yeah, I think I put a woman on the moon. Like that's how it opens is they're all in a bar, like a bunch of people

are at home and it pans across all these different sort of people in America watching the moon landing and they plant a Russian flag and it's a woman who's the first person on Mars on the moon. And that changes so much because first of all, America has to catch up. They've got to do something even cooler, right? Because you can't let Russia win. And at least to them saying, hey, we need to get more women in the program because we can't let them seem like the enlightened and cooler ones. So it brings about sort of gender and race equality before it would have happened otherwise. It brings on more money going into space exploration, moon bases, a cold war in space, and it goes on from there. And the way this show works is at the end

of each season, you sort of advance a decade, say, and see where we are now. And, you know, it's interesting. I will say that I do feel like sometimes these series are too fucking long and you have these flabby episodes where it's just almost like soap opera shit between a couple of characters. And I find that very tedious. If they tighten it up a little bit, I always think it would be better. But you know, these streaming services want just content, don't they? So sometimes it feels a little flabby, but it is a good show. And I have enjoyed it. I haven't finished it yet, but I enjoy it. I obviously do enjoy the both. I think I enjoy stuff that's within the realms of reality. I've talked about this a lot on this podcast, but I like the alternate reality

stuff and I like seeing what's different because I like history. In the same way that I enjoyed Oppenheimer and things like this and they, you know, that wasn't alternate history. Well, no, but that was that well, it's like obviously fiction, historical fiction, isn't it? Really? But I mean, it did, they did make a bomb, didn't they? But it's nice to see those characters that I've read about and heard about walking around doing stuff. It's nice to see these astronauts, Neil Armstrong and some of the others. Some of the characters are real. Some of them are based on real people.

Some of them are fake made up and some of them are half half. So there's like this big, one of the main female leads in the first season is based on a real character, Jerry Cobb, who was a really excellent pilot and flew planes and things her whole life. And absolutely would have been part of the astronaut program if sex discrimination and things like this hadn't been a thing. So I know it's kind of fascinating to see this alternate history. In the same way that the alternate World War Two won a man in the High Castle. I quite enjoyed that. Just from a kind of, you know... I do think it went on a bit, but it is good.

Yeah. Again, it was, I think sometimes these things, the first season is really where they have their strength. And I will say that generally too was, I think sometimes these things, the first season is really where they have their strength. You know? And I will say that generally too, like I think that sometimes these shows, these, everyone's first book, their first show, their first concept, again, part of the reason is that you're coming into it fresh, it's a new thing, it's a new idea and having more of that is less satisfying. Right, so I've got a question for you.

Have you read the actual Lord of the Rings books? Like the trilogy? Oh, yeah. Years and years and years ago. Here's the thing, I'm at a point now in my 40s where you say to me, have you seen this movie? And I'll be like, yeah, 20 years ago. I can't fucking remember. I'm not going to ask you trivia about it. I'm just going to say, did you think like, if you'd read the first book, the Fellowship of the Ring, I would say that the that whole trilogy gets more exciting and cool as it goes on.

Even though the origin story is is book one. Book one is basically setting up books two and three. And if you think about the Fellowship of the Ring, the actual book, it is like, you know, people talk about games being walking simulator or whatever. That is what book one of The Lord of the Rings is. If you I remember reading at the time and thinking, how the fuck am I going to finish this book? Because it is so slow.

Then getting together in the Shire and deciding to head off and then heading off. It is like every footstep they take is commented on. Every bit of scenery is commented on, every bit of scenery is commented on, the whole Tom Bombadil fucking thing, the whole thing with the things in the barrel. It's so, so... You're like me, and you feel pissing with me and you, and I'm one of these people who reads every word of a book.

Right. And I feel like it's cheating. I skip the songs. But I can't be dealing with reading... in a sense like that, I'm happy to skip the songs and any of that nonsense because like, you know, I can't, I'm not listening to it. I'm not going to play the song version on Spotify while I'm reading it. Do you mean I'm not like that? But I feel like some people are not afraid to skim.

Who does that? You meet these people who read, you know, seven books a week and the secret is they're not actually reading them. Shocking. They're just skimming through them. They get, you know, they're like, they quickly glance, pan through. You know what these guys are? They're like the people that watch YouTube at two times speed, which I have been doing more. If I'm like, yeah, I know where this is going. I'll just two times it. And then when it gets to the interesting bit, I'll slow down. But a lot of it, once you two times it, you realize how much is filler.

But you've done this as well. I found myself doing this in games more as well. Certain games where you can click through the narrative. Next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next,. Okay. My daughter click, you know, like, like rescue. Next, next, next, next, next. Exactly. Right. And so you're like, you get to the end and you're like, I think I got the gist of it. Pop ups and it's like rescue the York's daughter and you're like, okay, cool. It's like, I understand where they put it in there. Some people love all that backstory, but my mate is always teasing me. My mate Axel is always having a go at me about how

in these narrative games, I'm just like escape, escape, escape, escape. Just get me out of this fucking dialogue and get on with the game. I think that's partly a terrible lack of attention span. And also just, I don't trust the writing in a lot of these games to be worth reading. Like, I will watch it if it's cack. I will enjoy it more if it's really bad dialogue. But if it's competent, I'm just like, this is just competent. I don't care enough. Mason- Here's the thing, P-Flex. If you notice it, that means it's either bad or up its own arse. Like, Disco Elysium was so...

P-Flex- Oh, I hated that game! Mason-...up its own arse. Like, Disco Elysium was so... Oh god, I hated that game! Up its own arse. I had so many people tell me that, mate, you should play Disco Elysium. I was like, I played it. I made it an hour in, and I thought this is a load of absolute wankery. This is... this game is someone who's had a vertebra removed so they can suck themselves off. That is my review of Disco Elysium. I completely agreed. However, I did get into it once I got over that.

I didn't. And I had a blast with it. I do recommend it. I could not stand it. All the extra layers they kept adding on of just bullshit. The bit that I tapped out on was the thing where they have that thing that forces you to smile or something. I was like, oh fuck me.

This is so on the nose and wanky. I just can't stand it. I can't stand it. It was, it was clever. There were some real clever ideas in it. I really enjoyed it. I recently actually played the Robocop game. Oh, that was fun, right? Robocop? Yeah, dude, you played it.

There's a game called Robocop Rogue City. Oh, it's so much fun. Now here's the thing about that, the game. They've clearly watched the movie and made it into a fucking game. And it like, good in the sense that Robocop was janky as fuck. It was this kind of guy, very woodenly. Did it got the music in it too? Yeah dude! You're Robocop!

And you have the gun that goes brrrr brrrr and if you pat the lads in the head their fucking heads explode. You can blow limbs off. It's so... It's like the movie. It's like being, it's like doing the movie as Robocop. What is it? Just a shooter?

Mm-mm. Yeah. You've got to do like detective shit. You're Robocop stomping around. You've got like the shitty 80s overlay. You've got like a 80s gun. You've got 80s characters with 80s hair. You walk around in the town and you have to like solve crimes and shit.

There's like little crimes you gotta solve. Freeze scumbag and you shoot them in the balls. It's fucking brilliant. Like, I had a... Now, of course, I don't think that it's actually even that well reviewed, the game generally. It's alright. Oh, it's very positive on Steam. But as someone who remembers very fondly Robocop from, you know, when I was a teenager, um, I had an absolute, like,

I'm not like a big fan. I've not got like the fucking Funko Pops. I'm a casual RoboCop fan. Yeah, RoboCop was fun back in the day. It was fun, you know? It's an older movie, right? And it's kind of weird. It's an older movie, sir, but it checks out. But it does. That's the thing. And I think the, like playing through the game and being in the universe was just great. I feel like so often people sell the rights to a franchise and you get such a different product. It doesn't even feel

like you're in the universe sometimes. The amount of, I don't know, Batman or Jurassic Park or things like this, games that I've played, or different branded games, it just doesn't feel like it. But because there isn't a Robocop extended universe with 50 movies, it's very pure what the product is. Right? And so I just, just being that dumb character stomping around and it felt real, it just felt real beefy in eighties. And I dunno, I liked it. So yeah, Robocop, Rogue City. I saw you played it, P-Flax, and was like, okay. Yeah, it was Bants. It was Bants.

It was really, really funny. I sort of used you as a little benchmark for how many... Like I look at Steam and I'm like, period, Flax has played 18 hours of this. And I'm like, okay, I'll probably like it. 18 hours? What is it like? Well, not of Robocop. What is it like?

Is it just like a... Period did 13 hours. Like is it like a linear shooter, You just work your way through the story? No, no, no, no, no. It's like, it's... I mean, it's kind of... The story is not particularly elaborate, but you have to solve these little crimes along the way. So, you know, you'll go to a new area and you'll walk about and you'll find some evidence of this. So you'd be called out to that. You've got like the police base you have to go back to. You're just solving little crimes and shit. Towards some other... There's a big story arc.

And then there were these set piece elements where you have to blast your way through enemies and shit. It's fun. It is a fun game. Mason- But then you'll go through a doorway and you'll be in your suburban, your like suburban bungalow and your wife and your, and the cart and stuff will be in the next room or whatever crying. And you know, like, cause you're obviously, you're still struggling with the human side. Yeah. I would say that's the weakest part of the game. What do you do in your house? Can you like, can you, can you build it or anything? Your wife's like, honey, could you take the bins out?

And so you have to do that. You have to check the mail, you have to mow the lawn. For people who think that your wife asks you to take the bins out is some kind of, you know, it's kind of slightly sexist stereotype. Mrs. F literally said to me before I came in here, can you please take the bins? Can you please change the bin when you finish recording? Like she just hates doing that. I had to do the bins this morning myself actually. The smell of the bin drives her mad.

Yeah, I don't give a shit. I've been putting off doing the bin, my partner's been away, and I normally don't do it. It's like a game of chicken with the bin, that's the thing. But I really should. If I step back and use my human brain instead of my animal brain for a second, I would realise that doing the bin would get me a lot of good boy points and I will do the bin. But, you know what I mean? Will you argue?

I have to step back. No, I'm automatically not doing it because I don't, because it's stinky. Right. Yeah. You just got to do it. I mean, Mrs. F hates any kind of job that involves something that's going to stink. She has, I have barely any sense of smell. So to me, emptying the bin is no big deal. Like I do that, I do the cat litter and there's a few other mucky jobs around the house. I'm the one who does that. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I don't mind a mucky job. But there are limits. Cleaning up dog shit is one thing I absolutely fucking hate doing. I don't know why. Do you hate the way of the bagging? Like the warm... You put the plastic bag on your hand, you go down, you pick it up, and you have a... What about wiping up puke? That's a bad one too. Who's puke? My kids puke. Any...

So I don't mind that, the dumb-bob never bothered me. Really? Wiping up my kids sick or... Even saying that stuff makes me feel a bit queasy. I hate wiping it up. I hate knowing that it's about to happen as well. You're nowhere near a toilet and you're just like, fuck me, this is happening. They're like, oh, fuck, damn it. Absolutely. So if you look at games that I play, have you played Ultimate General Civil War?

I looked at it and I was like, I can't be dealing with this one. I've got 441 hours on that. I thought, ah, Lulu should have played this again. That is the biggest fucking PFLAX shout out I've ever heard. Ultimate General Civil War. Ultimate General... I tell you what, I'm not really all that interested in the American Civil War. Oh, it's a fascinating war. It's absolutely fascinating. It's one of the first, I think it was probably the first sort of modern war that was, like, if you think about World War I, which came, what, fifty odd years later, sixty odd years

later. First of all, I think the American Civil War is fascinating because if you want to talk about alt histories, the United States of America could have gone down a very different route if this war had gone a different way. The fact that it was like a civil war. Civil wars are always interesting to me because it's just crazy that within your own country, like a lot of countries have had civil wars, I always find them very interesting. And this was semi old school kind of Napoleonic's because you had lines of men, you had a cavalry artillery infantry. That's it. But you had these advances coming in that we would we were just not ready for the level of bloodshed that there would

be. And it is insane how many people died in some of these battles. I think I was talking about the Ken Burns Civil War documentary, maybe in previous episodes. Amazing. I didn't watch that one. I watched the Vietnam one, but the Civil War one. The Civil War one is really good. Yeah. Oh, can I can we just do this really quickly? I just found this. A lot of shout outs today. Shout out to the Civil War.

This is on the news round part of the BBC website. So the news round is like a kids' news. And I just thought, I wonder if we can solve this quiz. This is Quiz of the Week. Have you been following this week's news? Do you guys want to do this? Sure, yeah. This is a kids' this quiz. This is quiz of the week. Have you been following this week's news? Do you guys want to do this? Sure, yeah. Yeah, I've been. This is a kids news quiz.

Even though I try not to. This is kids news. Yeah. What world first have scientists grown in a lab this week? Skin, tooth, eyeball, bone. Oh, it was the tooth, I think, wasn't it? You're gonna say tooth? I'm gonna say, um, skin.

I'll go for eyeball. So I've selected tooth. It was tooth. Scientists at King's College have grown a human tooth in a lab. Wow. Next question. Uh, we know this one. Which pop star went on a fucking trip to space?

Katy Bloody Perry, wasn't it? Yeah, she's an astronaut now. I hated this, not because it was just a bunch of rich people being set up into space, um, which is like, you know, for them and not us. Not space. Is it? No, not quite. It was technically space.

It was, it was technically space. Well, no, it was, it was called the Carmen line. It was past that line, but they were in space for four minutes. I will say this doesn't make them astronauts. Um, it's, it's not a big deal. They have to do any, any training whatsoever to go up. No, they just got in the thing, just got in, put on their little spacesuits and went up and they were in space for four minutes.

And then their vessel, the sort of pod that they were in comes back to Earth. That's it. The rocket went up and came down within like a minute, which is incredible that the re-landing rockets that these Blue Origin and SpaceX have is genuinely. Yeah, they are impressive. Really sort of future tech that you think, how is this a thing? But all they were doing up there was going, woo, woo, woo, was about the gist of it. And then they came back and said, oh, it was amazing. I'm like, yeah, of course, I'm sure it is amazing going up that height.

But you turned going into space into a fucking ride. Like, this is just a ride at this point. Like it's not that different from those rides that take you up really high and then drop you. You know what I mean? That's essentially all this is, a very expensive version of that ride. But I genuinely think that it is super fucking dangerous. Yeah, I don't know if I'd want to go up. I think these are just a gamble, right? That tourist submarine, you know.

Oh God. It's only a matter of time before one of these goes off. It's obviously not as safe as getting in an aeroplane. It's pushing the extremes of tourism, if you like. Blasting people into near orbit, or whatever you'd call it, just past the Karman line. So you couldn't orbit there, I think you'd be too close. I think a lot of people are scared to fly, let alone go in a fucking... And so you've got to give them a little bit of respect for taking that risk.

I do give them some credit for that, however. This was an all-female launch, that was the whole point, it was just all women on there. Put them into space, it was meant to be this kind of feminist thing. All that Katy Perry and a couple of the others were talking about was what their outfits were going to be. And I just thought that is such a shitty message. And this is Katy Perry who put out that song, this is, it's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it. If you watch that video, it's like the most dated vision of feminism. This to me was a big anti-feminist

movement. And as people have pointed out, the rocket looks like a giant cock. So you're stuffing a bunch of women into the glands of this space cock. I just think it's a bit fucked. I agree. So it was Katy Perry anyway. Well, it looks actually more like one of them back massages. The Vibraya. Who won the Masters Golf Tournament? It was Rory McElroy. It was! Well done, sir.

I don't watch golf much. I don't either. But I knew that. I knew that. I knew that. Holly the dog had her last shift at Alderhay Children's Hospital. What was Holly the dog's job? Was she the cuddle manager, the guard dog, a doctor or a nurse? I think she was the cuddle manager. Cuddle manager?

I'll go with cuddle manager. It's correct. She even had a little NHS ID card that said, Holly dog cuddle manager. And how big is England's tallest tree? 83 meters, 63, 43, 23. England's tallest tree. Well, we have been growing some giant redwoods in this country. No, really?

Yeah, I saw one when I was in... I'm gonna say 23. ...southeast England. That's not very big. No, really? Yeah, I saw them when I was in... I'm gonna say 23....southeast England. That's not very big. Oh, you said 23. 23 meter long? This is fucking huge, man. It's 63.

63?! Yeah. Fucking hell. 23 is not that big for a tree. That's gotta be like an outlier, world's tallest tree or something, like they're not all that tall. I mean, I've seen the world's tallest tree when we went to, uh, to California and it's, uh, it's fucking half a million giant redwood trees in the UK.

That's not that many. That's not that many. Yeah, we planted them. No, come on trees. They're everywhere. That's not that many trees. I plan a giant redwood in my garden. If I had a garden and a tree and I mean, I don't know how long they take to get to that height.

That's true. I think some trees grow very, very slowly. And I think, which one is it? Which is this tallest tree then? I don't know. Someone in England. The tallest giant redwood in the UK is 55 meters. Sweet. So Hyperion, which is the tallest one in the world, it's between six and eight hundred years old. It is absolutely fucking enormous. It's a hundred and sixteen meters high.

A hundred and sixteen meters high. That is insane. Hyperion. Oh, that's a great name. It's a great name. The tallest one in England doesn't have a name, apparently. It's just a tree. It's just a Douglas fir that is 66 meters tall.

Yeah. Oh, can we just, I just need to do something. We had an email. I know this isn't a mailbag part of the podcast, but somebody emailed in. I will try and find the email real quick. All right, here it is. So I know that this is no mailbag episode, but I wanted to read this one. This is from Robbie, a tiny penis have a Robbie.

I was recently driving through Twickenham for the first time in my life and saw a sign for Teddington. This may be chuckle because that's your name and you're in Twickenham. Indeed, Teddington is one of my sort of neighboring parts of Southwest London.

I go to Teddington quite often. But there is a follow up email from Robbie who says, as per my previous email, I have discovered there is a town called Sipson, not far from Twickenham. And it's true. I've looked it up on the map and Sipson is a little village that is to the west of here. A little actually to the northwest of Twickenham is Sipson. And he said he's now on the lookout for a Lewis based place. And of course, there is Lewisham. Lewisham is in southeast London. a Lewis based place. And of course there is Lewisham. Lewisham is in Southeast London.

And so we have a Teddington, a Sipston, a Sipson and a Lewisham all within, I'd say about 20 miles of each other. So we, we, we could do the trifles podcast from those locations. We should do that. We should go on a tour, hire out some places in these places and say we're coming at you live from... that would be fun, no? Yes!

I mean, I talked to you guys, I said last year we should do a live Triforce somewhere, but get a fucking theatre and then do it. We should do one in Teddington, one in Sipsingham. Sipsingham, Sipsingham. And then one in Lewisham, which one's best? The problem is, I ain't going to fucking Lewisham. Why not? It's been pretty dodgy, problem is I ain't going to fucking Lewis him. Why not? It's pretty dodgy dude.

I'm not going to Lewis him. Come on. They've got to have like a nice part of it though. No? Maybe. I mean, Teddington is lovely. I will say that. Like it's really nice.

And I'm sure Sipson isn't too bad either. Shut the fuck up about your place. Teddington sounds like the name of a CBeebies show. No? Why Teddington is here. Yes. Teddington wanted something for dinner. Teddington was very horny.

My God. Teddington couldn't wait to get home to his wife. Mrs. Teddington had the Giat that Teddington couldn't wait to get home to his wife. Mrs. Teddington had the giat that Teddington bare desired. Sing the giat song with me children. Bunda bunda bunda. You know what that is right? Mrs. Teddington was very sore after Mr. Teddington. She said, please Teddington, can we take a break?

But Teddington was rock hard. On tree news, I thought this is related. So the tropical tree in Panama called... Wait, is this loose news or is this tree news? This is loose news. But it happens to have a tree relate story. There's a Tonka, there's a Tonka bean tree. Okay. That has evolved in very stormy, tropical rainforest. And it has actually been, cause it's a very tall tree. It routinely gets struck by lightning and it's evolved to survive lightning strikes,

but use them to kill other trees. Oh my god. And especially things like parasitic vines that cling to them. So it's like lightning bolt, lightning bolt. Like it's become a mage tree. In tropical forests, lightning is a major cause of tree mortality, especially among the largest, oldest trees, the Plaky girls' historic carbon. And so yeah, they track these specific they track these, these, um, specific trees

getting here and found that they were, uh, much more resilient showed no damage after being struck by lightning. Whereas other trees around them and the vines that grow on them were all cleared away. It's crazy. Uh, each lightning strike kills around two tons of tree biomass. Jeez. And so, yeah, this is struck by lightning increases their seed production over their life by 14 times. Okay. Well. Very interesting. They're harnessing the, it's like Frankenstein.

Do you know what I mean? That's what he wanted to do. Old Victor Frankenstein. He used to power lightning. You know? Old Vic Frankenstein, as we all know. He'd love to have some of them trees grown in his back garden. Oh yeah.

It's alive! Man oh man. Wait, that's fucking, it's alive. Isn't that Gordon's alive? Isn't that what you're referring to? I don't know. I can't remember. Okay.

It all gets blended together. Haven't they done a new Frankenstein or something? Or am I thinking of something else? I'm sure there's another fucking Frankenstein. Oh yeah, they did. They're constantly doing this stuff because it's copyright free. So, about Minecraft movie, originally Matt Berry was going to be the Steve instead of Jack Black. Because a lot of people are saying, oh, this is clearly a Jack Black vehicle or whatever. But I feel, and Jack Black honestly does kill it. And he's great. He really puts in so much energy running around. He's just, his line delivery. I think Matt Berry would have had a very similar role in it, because he delivers lines in very

odd ways and silly ways. I think it would have been a very different movie if Matt Berry was Steve. But I still think it would have been interesting. Also they're enacting the Minecraft music into the national recording registry. But the doo doo doo doo doo, like the opening music. That was in the movie a couple of times, wasn't it? It was. Did you have to wipe one a couple of times, wasn't it? It was. Did you have to wipe one tear from your eye when you heard it? On the big screen?

I didn't. No. But I recognized it. Yeah, me too. And it was, I'm glad they used it. Also they're enacting a bunch of other video game music, such as the Mario Bros. Pretty iconic stuff. What about the Dragonborn from Skyrim?

That would be a good one as well. And the Fallout theme would be really good too. Imagine that. Oh yeah, that is good. Good idea. It's had some variations, but they're all pretty good. This year's National Recording Registry has also included Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, the original Broadway cast recording of Hamilton and Amy Whitehouse's Back to Black.

I've never seen Hamilton before. Nah, me neither. I keep, like, everybody always raves on about it, but I've never seen it. I'm not a big musicals guy. No, I'm not a big fan of that period of American history. Why? God, no, I just, again, I don't know much about... We don't get really taught this stuff, you know.

Every American is taught about how they... Quite simply, I'm racist. In school, you're told about things that were... Your country did well, right? Or won. You know, like we're taught about these battles that happened thousands of years ago, you know, that England won. Because it's, and in America, every school kid is taught about their founding fathers and all this, right? Whereas we didn't know shit about it. And so as a result, like I was kind of very, it was almost like acted like a little bit of a

education to me of who these people were. Um, one of them was black, unbelievably. It's crazy. I didn't realize, uh, one of the founding fathers was really, which one talking about Abraham Lincoln. It's a joke. It's a joke. I see. I was going to say, what the fuck? Uh, they have all slave owners. Half of them, weren't they? Yeah, it was terrible. Um, but anyway, great. How it's worth watching. If you get a chance, I'm sure there'll be an opportunity. When the hell am I going to get a chance to watch that? In there's like a movie of it. You don't have to go to the theater.

You can watch the movie. Well, okay. Well, I'll ask, uh, I'll ask the audience then, what would you recommend for a first time Hamilton viewer? To watch it live or to just watch the movie? Or there's always a third option, just skip both entirely. I haven't watched it so I can't comment. No. Oh, it is good.

Yeah. It's obviously, you know, fascinating stuff. And I don't know, it's just, it is good. The songs are great. Uh, I enjoyed it. You know, I did go away, um, last, this week, like Easter break. Easter break before Easter? Yeah. Pre-Easter. It's because it's half term, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like the Easter half term. Right. So the kids get two weeks off. Mrs. F got back from Japan yesterday or the day before yesterday. And we, prior to her going off to Japan, we had booked this break and we got this Airbnb down in Hampshire on the coast in a place called Hordell, which is near New Milton. Any New Milton or Hordellites. Hello. And I booked this cottage. It was really beautiful and it was four bedrooms.

So the kids could have a room. My sister, who was going to come with us, could have a room. My mom would have a room and me and Mrs. F would have a room. And it had like a hot tub and it was really nice. And it was like, this was my mom's holiday this year because we always try to take on holiday once a year. She's on her own. She doesn't have much money. So this is the thing that we try to do. My sister couldn't go. Mrs. F couldn't go. So it was just me, the kids, my mom and the dog. And it was it was okay.

It was okay. But looking after I was basically the adult for the holiday, which was kind of annoying having to look after the kids. I haven't looked after my aging mom. Haven't looked after the dog. So it wasn't really a holiday. And, you know, there it is. But Mrs. F loved Japan. Came, brought back, had to buy another bag

to bring back all the presents she got for everybody. And scouted ahead very effectively for our holiday that we're taking later this year to Japan. So she's like, oh yeah, I know how to use this. I know what to do that. We're going to stay here. We're going to do this. We're going to do this, this and this. Well, man, that sounded more and more like a holiday. Now you got somebody who is going to take

the lead in all the, she's going to be the adult. You could just get your mojito and just sit by the pool and everything else will get sorted out. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm hoping. Nice. You could just take the bin out and you know, just take that sounds bad. You just take the bin out once or know. Just take... That sounds banging. Yeah, you can just take the bin out once or twice. I'm glad she had a good time. Yeah. So what else has happened?

In random news, they brought back some dire wolves. No they didn't. Out there, they've been extinct. Yeah, yeah. No they didn't. Yeah, they brought them back. Jurassic Park style bitches. No.

Apparently this is a real thing. I will not believe it. They found some DNA from... You can They found all the evidence in the world. I will never believe that they brought back a dire wolf specifically. Anything else. Well, except but they have named them two males called Remus and Romulus and a female called Khaleesi. Nice. Good grief. Oh yeah. I saw, wasn't George RR Martin, like holding one of them or something? Holding a dire wolf? Yeah, there's a picture of him holding one of them.

That sounds like AI. Why doesn't he get back to writing? Stop doing other shit. That's like the entire... He's on a break, he just wants to cuddle dire wolves and he just, he wants to live again. Leave him alone. Every picture of him enjoying himself doing something else, people are like, yeah, why don't you get back to writing your own book?

Get back to writing your own book, Jamie. If you'd left Bodega on a, like, if you'd done a Netflix Bodega adaptation and you told everyone there was another one coming and you'd like, you know, released a sample chapter and then you'd left it for 13 years. Well, I did release a sample chapter and I haven't written anything since. Well, man, why not? You should never stop the gravy train. You should keep it going and going and going. Keep it flowing.

Keep the valve open. Well, I'll tell you what, it turns out it's very easy to write short stories. Right. Because you just have one idea and you explain it over like, I don't know, five, six, ten pages. But when you have to write an entire novel, extremely hard because I've never done that before. I've written short stories for years. I've always written short stories, but I've never had to sit down and plan out a novel and actually have like a whole story

arc and flesh shit out and have it make sense and read like an actual book. So it was just an insurmountable problem for me. So on that, there's two solutions. One is chat. Well, I guess there's three solutions. The first one is to do what Stephen King does and just sort of write it and not give a fuck. I think his process is very famously just free form to see where it goes. And as a result, oftentimes it does, it goes mental. And some of his books have terrible endings or they don't make any sense. He's always sort of universally acclaimed for that. And it does feel like, in a sense, that does give his books a sense of realism in some

cases because the reality is not a typical story structure, right? Of a problem, resolution, happy ending. Man, who was that guy that tweeted back at Stephen King one time and called him a nobody that nobody knows about or something? Yeah, that's a really famous tweet. I love it when people do things like that. Like on the tariff, someone is like, if China doesn't want to buy our beef, let's just send it to India. Not realising that India is entirely Hindu or

Muslim. And that as a result is a bit of an issue. Yeah, pretty dumb. So, what are the other things that... Well, the other option of course is just write it as a short story and then, you know, that seems, you know, if you feel like it's got more legs, you can add more and add more to the back and front. A lot of short stories do get developed into full novels. Once the writer has finished them, I think a lot of, that's how a lot of the sci-fi characters back in the day wrote their big novels. It was, they started with a short story and then they thought, well, we can make this more or less.

And so that's the way to do it. So I guess just don't be scared. In fact, either way, if you've got a cool idea, start slapping it down or get in contact with Charlie Brook and we'll get you in the next season of Black Mirror. Nice. Yeah. I'll just call up Charlie. Hi Charlie.

A friend of Lewis Brinkley's here. I'm going to be writing one of the episodes of Black Mirror this season. I hope that's cool. Just slam the phone down. Is that the plan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you wrote Bodega. You know, that's got the Jack Black adaptation coming out. Matt Berry might have to be Bodega. No, we need a cowboy to play Bodega, not Matt Berry. Who? You could get Walton Goggins, the guy who's...

Oh, yeah. He'd be Walton Goggins, the guy who is. Oh, he'd be great. He'd be a great bo-dagger, actually. I don't know if he's old. He is old enough. He's old enough. Yeah. He sees he can do scruffy sort of cowboy as well. Yeah, he's 53. He could absolutely do it. I mean, he would basically be playing the ghoul from the fallout show.

Yeah. Yeah. Which I mean, really well. So he did. You did. There you go. That's got a lot of bodega energy in it. Can I also say, Walton Goggins. Yeah. God bless you America and your names.

Well done. And he's kept it as well. The grandson of Mrs Goggins from Postman Pat, famously. She raised a good one. Hello, Postman Pat. She raised a good. What if we got him to play Pat in the Postman Pat movie? Yeah, that would be with Walton Goggins as postman Pat. Yeah. Early in the morning, just when day is dark and Walton knows he's a real lucky fellow.

He's got to America. Ted Gleff. Yeah. You scoundrel. You ripped me off. Damn it Ted. Ted's one of the guys in the Ted. Postman pack cast.

So you've got of Coolvinder gear. Janet James, Carol Boyd, Archie Punjabi, Angela Griffin. You got, yeah, Ajay from, he's the train conductor, the Greendale Rocket. Why is it saying that Brian Cox was in Postman Pat? I think he probably did one of the voices. Oh, they must have done new Postman Pats. I'm talking classic Postman Pat. Well, he could have been around for the classics as well. He's an old guy.

So a lad called Ken, Ken Barry, he's dead now, sadly. Rest in peace. Um, he was the voice of postman Pat. He's best known for postman Pat. That's amazing. Yeah. So, uh, all my kids have loved postman Pat by the way. Really, really love Postman Pat.

I'm just going to carry on with this news article. You guys keep talking about yourself. Crack on. Crack on. Police officers have dressed up as Batman and Robin to do a bizarre undercover sting. So this is happening in London, basically on Westminster Bridge, where they're constantly running this cat and mouse game with these con artists who are preying on tourists, you know, with like the ball and cup scam and all this stuff. There's tons of these little cup and, like illegal gangs.

But they're jealous that somebody else is preying on people so they've got to get in on the action. So one of them is going to dress as Robocop next. But they obviously are so, they're local police, these guys are all so well aware of each other that the criminals basically were able to just recognise them immediately from afar and quickly move into the crowds and disappear. So they dressed up in Batman and Robin costumes to get the jump on them, which is honestly very creative. And, and one of the men who was arrested was called Costica Babu.

I feel like it was a very great name. That's a Romanian name, I believe. Costica Babu. And the next guy who was arrested was called Eugene Stoica or Eugen Stoiker. Okay. Well, when I looked for Costacoo Barbeau, it came up with Costco barbecue. Costco barbecue. Nice. I actually bought my new barbecue last week.

Holy shit. Went down to a garden center. Our old barbecue had run its course and I bought an excellent barbecue that I can recommend. It's a faber. Does It's a VEBA. Does it have a propane tank? Or is it like... No, I prefer coals. Yeah, I'm a coal guy myself.

Yeah. So, clean, delicious coal. Exactly. Tried it out last week. You don't think you don't want to do a gas one? Nah. I've done gas ones before. And obviously it is much easier. And the only, I mean, sometimes you'll run out of gas and not know you have. We've done gas ones before, and obviously it is much easier. And the only, I mean, sometimes you'll run out of gas and not know you have, and then

you like, fuck, we can't do a barbecue, we've got no gas. But you can always pop to the corner shop and get a bag of fire, barbecue coals. Yeah. You get the ones that come in the little bag that you just light the bag on fire. Oh God, so easy, right? So easy. Yeah. It's like a paraffin treated cardboard paper bag. Sorry. Yeah.

It's just you just like the corners and bam, it's perfect. It's really, really good. That's true. Yeah. So really, really good. But the flavor you get from the having the actual. The flavor. Yeah. I mean, Weber, Weber, the flavor.

I said flavor. Yeah. What did I say? Flavor. Flavor. Fromaber, vapor, the flavor flavor. Yeah. What did I say? Flavor from the vapor. The vapor flavor is check out the flavor from my vapor. It's incredibly, but my wife enjoys the flavor from my vapor. Sorry, carry on. What were you saying about the flavor? Why is that funny? It's I've always found someone just saying my wife when someone says my wife.

Hello, Dave. I get it. It's so fucking dumb. And Dave, I have to use belonging to you. Those those those those bag burning, uh, calls are great. And also I wouldn't normally use these at home, but like, uh, certainly when we go to like say center parks or whatever, you got to use those disposable barbecues, you know, they come with the, uh, they got like the little paper

inside and it's like, uh, it's got its own got its own little metal grill and it's, you know, uh, have you seen those, the disposable ones, little disposable ones? I hate the disposable ones. You got to use them, uh, at center parks because they're worried that people are just going to burn down the whole forest. So those things do start quite a few fires. You have to just use those ones, but they're not bad. They're really easy.

They do start a lot of fires. Like a lot of the fires we have are because of people running a barbecue on like dry grass with one of those disposable ones. And then it all goes up and they're like, ah, they panic. Also, I hate the fact that when you see it, people leave these black scorch marks on the ground where the barbecue was. And it's like, well, great. Now the grass, you've murdered that section of the grass and it's going to be a year before it gets back to normal. Yeah. Just for one fucking barbecue.

Why'd you do that? Find a fucking bit of rocky ground and put it on there, which is basic fire safety anyway. Don't just boss you on that lovely living grass and fucking leave a scorch mark in my park. Thank you very much. I hate that. And then just leave the whole fucking thing there anyway. Animals.

Bunch of bitches. There is a, there is a thing apparently called the stupid hackathon. Where people had to make stupid things and some guy designed a vape with a Tamagotchi inside it. The guy is, if you stop puffing, that is hilarious. Oh my God. I would love that. Oh my God. It's like, it's like, who's going to die first.

You're like, you're in competition with your, with your Tamagotchi. It's like, you're, it's like, you get your Tamagotchi. It's like, it's like, it's like, your Tamagotchi. It's like, Papa, suck me. I'm dying. But I also die every time I take a sock. You have to die so I can live. Is this the Boston stupid hackathon? Is that what this is?

Have you seen their website? Their website is like 2002 era internet website. This is really amazing. I love that. Oh my God. It's so basic. I love it. Yeah.

Some there's no pop up shit. There's no, you're browsing it and just as you scroll down, a fucking thing pops up asking you to subscribe to the newsletter. Bald underline italics hyperlinks. Yeah, it's perfect. Hell yeah. There's no cookies to accept, you just bosh in here. Oh god I love this.

I'm gonna have to pay for this. It's good innit. Well I think that's enough actually today. We've done a great cover. We covered everything very nicely. Yeah, fine. Yeah, good one. And so thank you for joining us everyone. We'll see you all next time.

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