Triforce! - This will age poorly | Triforce Mailbag #56

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Triforce Mailbag Special 56! We make predictions for world events over the next two years, discuss some very serious topics and end on a high. This'll age fantastically! Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Go to https://www.chubbiesshorts.com/triforce and use code triforce to get 20% off your order. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickaxe. Hello chums and listen. Welcome and listen. Welcome. Welcome listeners. Christ. What an intro. Welcome and listen. Welcome. Hey, Listen up you welcome Let's dive straight into it. This is from back Listening to the latest episode you discussed Walton Goggins and his excellent name So you'd like to know he owns an eyewear line called Walton Goggins goggle glasses and it's true way Calm yeah, look it up. Holy crap. I didn't know that

Okay, they look with dick. Oh, they look so 80s And it's true. No way. Gogginsgoggles.com. Yep. Look it up. Holy crap, I didn't know that. Okay, they look ridiculous. Oh, they look so 80s. They're terrible. So, imagine that you were told that a cyborg assassin from the future had been sent to look for you, and it was like, just keep an eye out, you'll know him when you see him. That's what Goggins goggles look like. They're Macho Man Randy Savage glasses, basically.

I mean, I see them for skiing. They are. They must be. They look like ski goggles, only they're... They're Macho Man glasses. They're awful. I think they look a bit like Oakleys or something. I hate them. They're dreadful.

Walter Goggins, I love you. Love you. And I love you very much. Walter Goggins goggle glasses. And he's giving them names. I saw an article about him this week. Apparently he used some sort of speech to talk about how he was a sex symbol at 55 and someone said to him, you know, someone mentioned his receding hairline and he said, my hairline's been the same since I was a kid. It was always that.

Yeah. He's just got that look. You can see. So the goggles you can get, one of them's called Mama's Skillet. One's called Limoncello. One's called Cumulonimbus, one's called La Tortuga, and one is called Blue. So they ran out of names. I guess. Did you know it features a modular 10 in 1 customization system as well? Complete with adjustable strap, foam inserts. No I mean, it's like the Rolls Royce of glasses.

They're not goggles or glasses, they are goggle glasses. Wolfman Goggins goggle glasses. They are. Gorgons goggle glasses. Gorgons goggle glasses. Oh my god, the Pidgey brought me a twig. You know I've got my Pidgeys that I feed, the ones on my windowsill, one of them just brought me a twig as a present. God bless you Pidgeys, have a great day.

Is it for you or are they trying to make a nest on your sill? Well, he dropped it here and then he's just going back to eatin' seeds, so I'd like to give it to him. I think he looked around my office. That's just going back to eat and see. So I'd like to. Yeah, that's a start of a nest. I think he looked around my office. Don't move it. Don't touch it. Don't touch it.

I wouldn't touch it. But what I'm saying is I think he might have thought your fucking nest needs some work, mate. You're going to have a front row seat to some real dirty sex and then you're going to see pigeons give birth and make a real mess on your window sill as well. They lay eggs. They don't give birth. They're going to give birth and make a real mess on your windowsill as well. It's just, they lay eggs. They don't give birth. They're gonna give birth right after. Zip, zip, zip.

I don't mind. I always say any animal that can live alongside disgusting, violent, careless human beings deserves all the respect it can get. And that extends to foxes, rats. Rats. Even a humble fly. I saw one too. I rescued a fly from my sink the other day, because I was like, we need flying insects. He'd got a bit of soap on him so he couldn't get free of the water, so I dried him off

and left him there, he was fine. What kind of fly are we talking? It's a little housefly. Nice. Alright, so shall we move on to, this is from Philistines Swine. I work in a grocery store and have kept an eye out for abandoned lists since it was mentioned on a mailbag. Most are as mundane as you'd expect, but I did find one with nothing but the word

source exclamation mark question mark on it. Make of that what you will. I do love the idea of someone having a go out and get some source, maybe source and just wrote that down on a piece of paper to get with them. Yeah, I have, however, encountered several people with unusual names as when they Source? Maybe? Source? And just wrote that down on a piece of paper and took it with them. I have, however, encountered several people with unusual names as when they punch in their store rewards phone number, it displays on my screen unbeknownst to them. Best names encountered so far are Augustus Jimmycom and Dusty McNutt.

Those are very good. Dusty McNutt. Yeah. Oh, nice. August this Jimmy cum is a great one. Yeah. And the final question, do we actually use the term spaff on me, Minj or has the Internet once again led me astray? I've never heard anyone say on me, Minj, spaff on me, Minj. I'm not sure that that's a used one. I mean, it could it could be it could be, but I doubt it.

I mean, there's a word. Is that going to get you going much? Like when you're... Oh, smartphone me binge! Yeah. It doesn't work, does it? That's what your mum told me last night. Some went, whey!

Your mum's out! Jesus. Please call my mum! Oh man. Do you want to hear about the enshitification of the Triforce podcast? Yeah. Oh, I'm aware of it, but keep going. Okay, so first of all, I saw a subreddit post where someone pointed out that they'd only just noticed that Triforce has an exclamation mark after it, which I had also forgotten.

You lads often bang on about, this is from Noah, the enshitification of the internet, and how everything nowadays is filled with ads, yet You are all just as guilty in this regard. It's true. Triforce podcast has just as many ads as everything else on the internet. Timeline. This is a timeline breaking down our betrayal of the humble listener. In the early days, there were no ads and Lewis said, we'll never do a Patreon. Probably 20 episodes later, the Patreon opened up.

Later we started hearing host readers. Probably. Hang on. Go on. That doesn't sound very accurate. We done 300 and something, 20 episodes. But I'm just saying, how many, what was the actual distance? I don't know. Someone will know. I don't think we did the Patreon till at least 100 episodes. I don't know. Later we started hearing host read ads for services like Honey,

which turned out to be a massive scam. More recently... It's true. Right. We didn't know at the time. No, we didn't scam. More recently, random ads were added. We didn't know at the time. No, we didn't know. More recently, random ads were added to the start and end of the podcast episodes. And now I hear random ads for things like banking services and tourist destinations in the middle of the podcast. So from start to finish, I probably hear this, that says eight to 10 ads in one episode. I didn't think it was that many. So it depends. It is crazy, I know.

It depends where you're listening. Money is so tempting and necessary as well. I mean, we need it. For us. Well, okay. Different people will hear different levels of ads and also the platform is it obviously Spotify adds their own ads. So if you're not subscribed to Spotify premium you get, it's basically unlistable Spotify if you're not subscribed to Spotify premium, you get... it's basically unlistable Spotify if you're not subscribed to premium because there's just so, so many ads. I was waiting for my parents and they have regular Spotify on their Alexa thing or whatever. It was just non-stop ads. I was like, when's music gonna start? Do you know what I mean?

So it's crazy. I think that, we obviously still do have a Patreon, we don't push it, and we haven't even mentioned it in six months, you do get ad-free if you're signed up to it. What if there was like a thing where... Tom does every week, tediously upload a separate ad-free version, ad-free feed to the podcast. You know, if you want to take advantage of that, go ahead. But not many people do. And in fact, so few people did that we had to put ads to the podcast. So I guess it's your fault, is what I'm saying, listener. If you're hearing ads, it's because you don't want to pay enough to support us.

And if you're... The reason you're hearing ads is because no one else does want to pay to support us either. So... Why would they? I mean, let's be real here. Let's be honest. So, that's part of it though, right? Like, it's... people...

Here we go. ...are willing to... it's a balance. It's the beginning. Everyone's like this. A thought is forming on the fly. Everybody pay attention. Well, you know, I obviously resisted subscribing to YouTube premium. He's giving birth to a disgusting thought on your windowsill. For a long, long time. Why? Everybody pay attention. Well, you know, I obviously resisted subscribing to YouTube Premium.

He's giving birth to a disgusting thought on your windowsill. For a long, long time. And I think YouTube did the math and they said, right, if we start upping the ads on YouTube Premium, it's going to make people more... to normal YouTubers. I just started to find that YouTube ads were getting really, really annoying. And I think YouTube knew that I could afford to subscribe to premium and was resisting. And so they were trolling me basically. Well, this is just like the most recent series of Black Mirror, where the woman has a terrible brain injury and the company says, look, we can help, we can fix her brain. But then they

start to have her read ads aloud in her day to day life without realising she's doing it. And they were like, yes, that's our that's our basic package. Now, if you want the premium package, it's all that kind of gradually scaling it up. Right. So they fix her brain, but she's just like like doing doing, you know, blurbs for ads without realizing it. Yeah. So she's a teacher. So she's in the middle of class and she's discussing something. And then she suddenly goes kind of robotic, does the ad read and then goes back to normal.

She doesn't even know she's doing it. And they're things like, try so and so as your washing powder today. Ask your parents about Kellogg's Corn Flakes or whatever. At the time I watched that, I realised it was a cautionary tale about the current way we live. All of these things are, right? They lean into a thing that's going on in the real world. And this is the thing, subscription services. What if it was unfettered? I think that's the whole point of that Netflix episode, right? Because we've all experienced this and we're all living in a subscription world where we

subscribe to a million things. But you know, yeah, there's ads on the podcast, but God, have you ever listened to any other fucking podcast? It's also the same. So, so. All right. So let's move on before Lulu busts her blood vessel. I hate it, but I can't do anything about it actually.

Because we put all the podcasts through this service and it's kind of automatic. We can. The machine has taken over essentially. If you do have problems with the specifics of ads or bugs, do just post it on the podcast because everything gets fed through to Sam and he feeds it back. Sometimes they're... Do you mean post it on the subreddit? Yeah.

Yeah. Because I read the subreddit and I'm like the tech support and I'm happy to continue to be, I don't mind. Yeah. You forward a lot of stuff through to Sam. Of course. So here we go. So, I've been a listener since the start, but stopped listening for a while, then when

I restarted I continued where I'd left off chronologically. Long story short, the latest episode I listened to was published in August 2023. I actually enjoy listening this way, as I get to listen to you discuss world news and internet trends with hindsight. E.g. you recently discussed what might happen to the Titan submarine that had lost contact. Obviously nothing good. It's like a portal back in time. Yeah, it's true. Which means if I keep listening in regularly, in roughly two years, I will listen to the next Mailbag episode you're due to make. I suggest you make a

prediction of something that will have happened by the time I listen to your next episode in 2027. When I eventually listen to the episode, I will email back on how closely or wildly inaccurate you are. I hope that makes sense. Happy chin wagging, Ivar. Ivar, let's think about this. Something you want to make a prediction about. So near future, we're talking two years. Not that far. Okay. I reckon, okay. First of all, deaths. Who's going to be dead? David Adams.

So many people will be dead in the next two years. Yeah, but famous. Well, there's so many famous people, a lot of them will be dead, too. I'm not saying I'm just I'm not saying there's like, you know, something ominous on its way coming. I'm just saying naturally over the course of two years, you'd be surprised lots of people will die. So looking at the death list, which is the twenty twenty five death list,

the most likely to die. There's a website called deathlist.net. You can look it up. Right. Okay. Dick Van Dyke is tall. He's a hundred. Dick Van Dyke will be dead within two years.

Mark my words. I don't want it to be so, but come on. He's got the, he's a hundred. There's no way. Dick Van Dyke is not, I think he's in reasonably good health, though. You know, sure. Eva Marie Saint. I don't know who that is. Eva Marie Saint, an actor.

Oh, she's she's 101. She's very old. She's 100. Sorry, Pete Murray, British radio presenter, politician Dennis Skinner, a labor politician. Ninety three. Wow. Ian Smith, who played Harold Bishop, he's 87. Esther Ransom is still going 85. Alan Greenspan, 99, economist.

Mel Brooks, he's also 99. Wow. Noam Chomsky, 97. Clint Eastwood, 95. Chomsky is looking every year of 97 now, unfortunately. He looks very old. I could imagine that the trifecta of a very, very wildly different trifecta. Mel Brooks, Noam Chomsky, Clint Eastwood, all gone.

I could imagine that they're all pretty old. Yeah. Yeah. Yoko Ono, you know, I'm not sure that would be a terrible loss. She must be like in her 80s now, right? She is 92. My. Oh, my God. And Attenborough, 99. I'll be honest with you. Come on now. I mean, I love David Attenborough, I hope he lives forever, but let's be real. Yeah.

I think once you're pushing 100, it's, you know... Buzz Aldrin as well, Robert Duvall is 94, I can imagine that. Oh, Rupert fucking Myrtle. Surely his time is nearly up. It's come. Oh my god. So, what else though, do you think global things are going to happen? Okay, let's have a quick thing. Where's the situation going to be in Ukraine?

In two years time? I think it will be over, and it will not be a peace settlement that Ukraine is happy with, but it's either that or destruction. I think that is certainly one thing. I think that China will have invaded Taiwan, or certainly made some really bold moves. They've built these fucking landing craft. You think they're just looking at them? They're fucking drilling and practicing. What if they do it in two years and one day though, and you're wrong? I'll take that. Close enough. I don't know. I disagree with that one completely.

I think that they haven't even like, see as Taiwan has all these little islands and things off the coast of China that they haven't even taken. Do you know what I mean? I feel like they could have, I feel like it's too obvious. They don't need to. No. I disagree. Wouldn't the global sort of outrage that that would spark be really bad for China?

Do you mean, for example, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia? Or the potential invasion of Greenland by the United States? They're all up to it. Well, that hasn't actually happened. The Russian invasion of Ukraine's been really bad for Russia. Of course. Well, hang on, this isn't about discussing what we think about politics, it's what we think is going to happen.

So, what about the situation in Israel and Palestine? No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't think it's going to happen in two years' time because I don't think they're ready to deal with a total global meltdown backlash. Maybe in ten years, but I don't think in two. That's my opinion. But, we'll see. I mean, I feel like the problem is they control so much of manufacturing that if we just said, oh, we're not going to trade with them, then we would be fucked.

And they know that. Again, let's not discuss this. I just want to know what you think is going to happen in the future. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. I think that it's possible that they would invade. In the next two years for this guy to, when this guy listens to this episode in 2027, he can laugh at how wrong we were. I'd love to be wrong about all this.

Maybe he can nervously laugh about how right we were. Oh god. Within two and a half years, we're going to spot, we're going to find very, very, very good evidence of either a doomsday asteroid or I know we've spotted this one planet where we're like, oh, there's probably lots of water there and there might even be life. I reckon in two and a half years, we're going to find something that we're like, okay, that proves it. There is definitely life on this planet. That's what I think is going to happen. Right. You think there'll be some planet with like, where they're like, the only way you get this is, you know, whatever. So these are really big

things though. These are like, these are all really big things. The likelihood of all of them happening or even some of them happening. I don't know. It's like, I feel slow. So think of something mediocre that you think might happen. I think there's going to be a new Nike shoe within the next two years. I think McDonald's are going to try to spice up their menu a little bit in the next two years. Let's see, maybe there'll be some like, you know, healthier options. You know, maybe they'll go back to plastic straws. I don't know.

Oh no, I think actually it's going to go the other way. They'll be like, I mean, look how effectively- I think they're going to go fully paper. Well, they banned plastic bags, didn't they? Or they put a charge on them. And that the government did. The man did. Well, ours government did.

Yeah. Well, a lot of governments have yeah but a lot of that getting rolled back thanks to the rise of people like that and the fucking rest is 70p for a bag for life they're charging 70 cents a bag it's ridiculous these bags aren't even any good hold on a minute wait wait these bags are no no hold on I'm talking Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Did you see the thing where Trump went to talk to some fucking world leader and he was talking about groceries? He was telling him we have a yeah, that's just that's just recently.

This is a Middle East. His his tour of the Middle East. But did he just learn this word? I feel like you just learned it when someone was like, I'm going to get some groceries, groceries. What are they food? You know, things you buy from the store. A fascinating old fashioned word. But people still use that word all the time. Well, I don't think he's ever been grocery shopping before in his life. So this is

probably just a beer out of a plate. It comes out of a hatch. The little man delivers it. I don't need. Well, no, for him, it just comes out of McDonald's. They deployed a mobile McDonald's just for him on this recent tour. I tell you what, it would be worth being president, even if you're not liked to have a fucking McDonald's just follow you around and just drop off burgers and fries. It's fucking hard to figure out what's going to happen in the future. If we knew anything... I think this is actually the worst time in history to predict what's going to happen

in the future though, no? It feels like utter chaos at the moment. Who's going to be the richest man in two and a half years? Well, probably still, it's probably still Musk, right? Because he changes quite often. He's just got so much money that it's only just going to, he's just on, he's, he can only get more money now. I don't think it's, I don't think he can, I mean, he's almost, he's, he has lost a little bit, but I don't know. He's probably gained it all back, right? Like there's so much pumping going on in the stock market. Like I can't see him losing much.

I think he'll only gain. I think it'll probably still be Musk, but could be wrong. I don't know. Well, do you want another email? Yeah. All right. Let's do it. All right.

My boyfriend has been listening to your podcast for as long as you've been doing them. And last year, after much convincing, he got me to listen. And to be honest, I still don't. This is excellent. So what I love is there's these boyfriends and husbands out there who are saying to their ladies, go listen to this podcast. It's so funny. Like, I really don't want to listen to your little podcast.

No, no, no. It's really good. And they listen to me like, oh god, this is awful. I'm just picturing that scene from Pulp Fiction with this guy holding a gun to his girlfriend's head. Triforce motherfucker, do you listen to it? A guy, a man stopped me outside the office today and said, I have a diminutive Johnson. Nice.

And I was like, oh goodness me. That's perfect. And then the other day someone did actually yell, I have a tiny penis, quite loud in the middle of the street. Nice. Which was, so it's all sorts. You're out there and God, I love you. Thank you. Anyway, the reason I'm writing this email is because a few months ago on the podcast you were talking about bathroom pairings. You remember we're talking about how you have toilet twinning or bathroom pairing? Sure. Sure. Anyway, my

university, University of York, big fan of University of York, and York was mentioned. Now my university not only has paired bathrooms, but it also has a famous duck. Did you guys know this? Is it Howard the duck? The duck was called Long Boy, and he became our unofficial mascot. The thing that made him special was his incredibly long neck, hence the name. A student a few years ago decided to make an Instagram account for him which now has nearly 60,000 followers, whose number one fan appears to be the BBC radio DJ Greg James, who, oddly enough, was on the radio this morning when I was reading this email. Sadly, Longboy was presumed dead last year after he disappeared. A GoFundMe was launched

to build a bronze statue in his honour, Not only that, but the university hosted a full funeral for the duck. Greg James himself attended and there was even a choir. The statue was unveiled at the event. Anyway, the statue lasted about a month before it mysteriously vanished. So someone nicked it. And there is a Wikipedia page for Longboy. It's a great statue and he really does have a really lovely long neck. Just imagine they're like mid-funeral and Longboy just waddles in quacking gently. Quack!

Very old. In November last year, this is a statue that was removed by the university after significant damage to its right leg. How could you possibly be mean to a statue? It's a gorgeous statue. Who damaged Longboy's right leg? Yeah, that's fucking unbelievable. That's unreal.

He's got a very long leg. He's fantastic. Rest in peace, long boy. That's a great little mailbag. Thank you. I love that. Thank you so much. So, remind me of the toilet twinning thing.

Is that like... So basically, I think it's like a charity thing. We're like, I can't remember why, but you'll have one in like your university and then there's one in like a place where there's no running water or whatever. You've paid for that toilet, you've fundraised for that toilet, and then as a sort of spreading the word, your toilet is now twinned with one deep in the Amazon jungle. Yeah.

Okay, great. I like it. This toilet is twinned with the Quidzin toilet in Slough. You can just imagine. Quids in? Yeah, quids in. The thing was... It's nice to know if I ever go to Slough. I don't know what a quids in is. Quids in, it's like, it used to be, this is back in the day, but it was like a nightclub

where all drinks cost one pound. We're going back sometime. Yeah, quids in. I've never heard of it. It's only a matter of time before, you know, people who suffer IBS, there's some sort of subscription based charity you can take part of that sets up toilets for people all over the, for you. You know, for you, for only you guys. It's like a lovely, you know, for your river in Slough, you've got your IBS subscription, you can use the special comfy toilet. Oh God, that would be, that would just be heaven. Just imagine. Why is that never caught in? Caught on. I wonder. Indeed.

It's a business idea for any of you budding entrepreneurs out there. Do it. Get on it. You can have it. Yeah, you can have it. You can have it for free. Yeah, you can have that one. All right. This one is a rant on behalf of the Triforce podcast. Oh, okay.

So this is a supportive rant, which I appreciate. Oh, okay. We don't get many of these, by the way. No, I just wanted to send an email in to rant about the constant moaning the fanbase seems to consist of. It speaks of bigger problems, generally, that nobody seems to think they have the right to tell people in the public eye their opinions, acting ability, athletic prowess are terrible when they do nothing but sit around doing nothing but be big useless consumers.

Right, calm down. You guys have consistently told us, the listeners, that you don't know what you're talking about and it's just three old men, thanks for that, complaining about shit. And yet I am constantly getting irritated by people thinking they can nitpick and moan after listening to over 300 episodes. If you don't know what you're in for by this stage, then you never will. Do I disagree with some things you talk about? Of course! Do I want to cry about it? No! If you guys want to spend a whole podcast talking about rooms and definitions of spaces, then by all means this is the Triforce podcast, not the baby wants a bottle podcast.

Ramp over. Okay, listen up. Nice. This is, when I come and do this, especially the mailbag, it's kind of like we're brought up on all those little things that A, we've forgotten, and B, we misspoke about, or C, we were uninformed about, or D, we read an urban myth one time about and it was bollocks. And I do want to be called up on these things, I do want to be better. I don't. I'm insanely uninformed, but I do not want to be called up on it either. I want to be able to enter any conversation and just kind of pretend that I know what I'm talking about or guess what I'm talking about. And then

people just go, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. He's got a point. I don't need to be known as a genius or whatever. I just want people to go, yeah. And then we can move on. You know? All right. No good. All right. Can I just be right back? I've just got to the loo. Sure. Sorry. I'll be right back. We'll wait, I guess. Yeah. Well, just left us in the lurch big time here. I don't know what to do. 26 minutes in as well. Such an awkward time. It is awkward. This is rude of him, really. I'm going to play Drop Dutchie today. Oh, it's fun. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Looks really good. Yeah, it looks like a nice one.

Is that do you know if it's available on mobile or is it? I don't know. I was going to get it on Steam Deck. I don't know about mobile yet. It just came out. They might be worse. We need to go. You need to get a Steam Deck. Yeah, but I mean, so it's it's not like a, you know, it's not like a particularly deep game. No. And it's got an element of randomness to it because it's like Tetris.

Sometimes you're like, fuck this tile. I don't know. You know, there's nowhere where it fits sort of thing. And you harvest resources. Here's the I didn't do the tutorial like me. You might just dive in. I'm going to can upgrade your cards. I only found this out after like some punishing runs. So you get your cards and with the resources like wood and wheat and stuff,

if you open up your deck list, it'll show you the cost to upgrade your cards. You could do different builds. You can do a build that's based on... Can you do like a full wheat build? Yeah, yeah. So that kind of thing. So you can do... You have buildings to just generate resources and runs where there's no enemies. And then there'll be like an encounter we have to fight enemies. Oh.

And when you defeat them, you know, you get gold for your surviving forces. But mainly if you don't fight them, it just adds more enemies to the boss at the end of the level. So you get to the boss level, you're like, well, I had an easy run to get here, but now I'm facing like 250 strength enemies. And you have to sort of stack up your units. There's like a rock, paper, scissor thing there. There's a decent amount to it, but the main thing is the different builds you can do. You could do like a gold build where you have buildings that create more units for you based on how much gold you've generated that round. And yeah, it's fun. It's not super deep, but it is just a nice satisfying thing.

And it has the nice physical element of the actual Tetris style rotating and slotting the shapes and stuff. So, yeah, it's quite satisfying. I played a game yesterday called Cash Cleaner Simulator, which is a money laundering game. Good God. You're in a room and you just launder money. But you get like a you can buy like a washing machine because sometimes the money's dirty, like physically dirty. So you have to wash it. Uh,

you can get like a dryer to like, to dry and stuff. So like, you'll get like a contract and it'll be, there'll be like a specification, you know, like 10,000 bucks, uh, in like these denominations, uh, packed in a duffel bag and, but you know, the money has to be clean, dry and no counterfeit. So you got to use like a UV light to check the money and stuff. It's pretty dumb, but it's pretty fun. It's kind of like, you can tell they spent a lot of time on like the sound of the money coming out of the money counter machine and stuff. Like it feels really good to load

up the money counter and just like watching it fling. Mate, I'll be honest with you. That sounds like watching it fling water. Mate, I'll be honest with you. That sounds like the most boring game ever. It is really boring, but it is fun somehow as well. Don't knock until you've tried it. I would try it. You'd probably love it. I can't do those games. I know you like them where it's like, you know, Power Wash Simulator, there's just no way.

Oh man, Power Wash Simulator is great too. It's so satisfying. You do like a full like deep clean. Oh man, it's great. I did enjoy the card, trading card game. That was quite funny, running the shop and selling the cards. Yeah, yeah, and then making and then doing a card collection at the same time. Yeah, that's a nice one. Yeah, it's good.

All right. This email is from Jacob. I am a microelectronic engineer's a nice one. Yeah, it's good. All right. This email is from Jacob. I am a micro-electronic engineer with a micro-penis. Nice. I'm sure that you, and especially Noah Lewis, know this. Silicone, the polymer used in everything from cookware to breast implants, is derived from silicon, the crystalline semiconductor with which I work. My biggest pet peeve is when society at large conflates

the most valuable element to modern society, silicon, with a lump of plastic jammed in someone's arse simply because of an etymological mishap, which is silicone. Right. So the two different things. So silicon and silicone. Right. Apparently Jacob needs us to know the difference. Apologies. I didn't even know that. So there you go. Thank you so much. I feel like that's something that you know when you need to know it though. But silicone does have silicone in it.

Yes, no, it's made from it. Yeah, apparently. Silicone is processed silicone. What's the complaint? Remind me of the pro complaint. So you've got silicone, which is a polymer, typically colourless oils or rubber-like substances, silicones are used in sealants, adhesives, lubricants, medicines, cooking utensils, blah blah blah blah blah. Silicone is often confused with one of its constituent elements, silicone, but they are

distinct. Silicone is a chemical element, a hard dark grey semi-connecting metalloid, which in its crystalline form is used to make integrated circuits like chips. So silicone is very different. And confusing the two is annoying to this writer. What, do people say, silicone chips? Silicon. Silicon implants. Do people know the people? Do they say silicone implants? Not silicon?

They say silicone implants, they say silicone chips. No, it's silicon chips and silicone. I know what it is! I'm saying what do people say! So, Lewis, it's silicone implant, and silicon chips. Silicon, silicone implants is what people might say sometimes. I'm assuming- Incorrectly. Are you saying that people will be confused by two similar sounding words that both contain

silicon? No, silicone is the implant. Right, let's move on. And silicon is the chips. Right, let's move on. And silicone is the chips. You're a silly cunt. Silicone, we'll move on from this conversation, please. Of course. He just got very angry.

All right, here's an email. Dear. This is a really long one. Okay. But- Can you condense it down into make it a really short one and a good one? I can try, but it's it's a lot. You know what? Is it much too long? It's it's about Wisconsin. Okay. This was meant to be the final Wisconsin email. Right. This was the one he says a mailbag 15. This is June of

2023 was when we were complaining about Wisconsin. So two years ago, I said no more Wisconsin emails, but if it's exceptional, I'll read it. So this lad thinks it's exceptional, but it is far too long. Shane, email in with this concise version of this email about camping in Wisconsin and how terribly it went. It's too long. And then we'll read it out. All right. But please, it's got potential there to be the final email. paste it into chat gbt and tell them to summarize it. Oh yeah. I'll do that right now. All right. Um, okay. That, that is a good idea. I hate AI, but I hate a long email even more. I need you to summarize an email for me into a single

paragraph. Please. I can't wait to see what this does. How long is it going to take the AI to do this? for me into a single paragraph. Please. I can't wait to see what this does. How long is it going to take the AI to do this? It'll be instant. A second. Here's a single paragraph summary of the email. All right, hold on. Wow.

Shane recounts a disastrous camping trip to the tip of Wisconsin with four friends marked by a miserable 12 hour drive filled with discomfort, a toll booth accident and the death of their playlist. Upon arrival, their over-packed gear and misleading campsite directions led to a treacherous, exhausting hike in extreme heat, revealing the trail was twice as long as advertised. Misfortunes continued with lost teammates, an eerie encounter with a child, and the ultimate failure to reach their destination. After a demoralising retreat, their beer supply was destroyed. They barely found lodging and discovered they were in a dry county.

The group ended the trip smoking weed by a highway and swore never to return to what Shane dubs Wisconsin, pleading for the topic of Wisconsin to be permanently laid to rest. Thank you. That was excellent. That is incredible. What? Thank you. Thank you, that was excellent. That is incredible. I'm gonna add that one to my watchlist and probably get around to it after I'm done season two of Endor or something.

That's perfect. That is so good. That's perfect. That is so good. Moulton Goggins is gonna play Shane as well, as you know. Jesus. Oh my. He's gonna have the Goggins glasses on.

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It's something that perhaps we don't think about when it comes to targeted ads. I always think targeted ads, you know, I'll be talking about something and then an ad targets me and says, perhaps this answers your problem. And I'm like, actually, you know, that's a really good idea.

But there is a counterpoint to that. This is with much love from a listener. If I'm an alcoholic slash gambler slash addict and these companies know that via the data they have, why can they then proceed to send you specific ads targeting this vulnerability? That is a very good question because if you are someone who is having trouble with gambling and emails things like gambling is anonymous and all that often. The key word gambling means you are going to have more adverts for gambling shoved your way. So yeah, I think that's quite interesting. I'm not sure quite I mean, in some cases, you'll go to a site where or use a service where their primary

sponsor is a gambling site or company or whatever. And that you don't even have any control over, right? You're just going to be fed that ad regardless. But this is the more targeted ones. You're saying they shouldn't be targeting people based on, but they are going to see these ads anyway, regardless of whether they're targeted. They are. But I feel like if you think about the deliberate targeting of people with ads, I'm sure the algorithm isn't thinking, a drug addict? Well, they love drugs. We should hammer them with ads for drugs.

Yeah, but no. It just thinks, oh, they like are interested in this word. And part of it as well will be, yeah, we have ads targeted, but we are also responsible for serving up X amount of ads for this sponsor, or whatever. So you will just get them regardless. I don't think there's a way to get around it. It is tough. I think there's a lot of factors here.

We talked about many of them, but it's to do, I think it's to do with the difficulty of drawing that line. of legislating what is appropriate and not appropriate. Also, the algorithmic nature of things is that these days people who do ads know exactly how effective they are very quickly on the internet. It used to be that you post a billboard and you wouldn't have any idea how effective that would be. But now, the reason mobile game ads are so, or at least were so abundant, were because they worked. Those games would post an ad, it would cost them a thousand pounds, they'd make two thousand pounds just from the clicks on it. So they'd post another one.

Because it was printing money. It was so easy. And so, this is how a lot of these situations work. And if you can target your ad to make money, unless someone comes in from the... We live in an internationalised society as well, where one government can't necessarily control ads on Reddit. And it means that, if it's no one's responsibility, it's too much trouble. There are some high level overarching laws around advertising as well. For example, cigarettes are not advertised like they used to be. Remember Formula One cars used to have all the big cigarette brands on them and stuff, and there used to be ads for have all the big cigarette brands on them and stuff, and there used to be

ads for cigarettes all the time. You're not allowed to advertise cigarettes at all anymore, as far as I know. I could be wrong about this, but I don't think they're advertised. And even now, all their packaging has to clearly display all the, you know, more than that. I don't know if you've noticed, we can't see them behind the counter, dude. Yeah, they're all covered up. Even at the airport now, you have to go into that special section to see it. And then when you go in there, you feel like you're in some slaughterhouse or something. Because the packaging is so fucking awful.

It is. But there's not even branding on the packs. Disease like gums and shit. So like a pack of Marlboro doesn't have that signature, the red sort of shape with the white triangle and all that. That's gone. Now, when you go to buy, it's just the branding about how awful it is. Yeah. And it's hidden away.

I assume it's working because, you know, they're trying to do all sorts of things around while in the UK, sorry, around advertising, say junk food, like past a certain time. Yeah. Stuff with lots of sugar in it. around advertising, say junk food, like past a certain time. Stuff with lots of sugar in it. There's limitations on how they can advertise it now as well. But these things apply also to advertising everywhere. You know, like, not just, I think it's...

Well, it doesn't matter if it's in the UK. You're still seeing an advert for McDonald's on a Saudi Arabian van, do you know what I mean? Like, on the news. There's adverts like, the news is at 90% adverts. A Saudi Arabian van? What am I seeing in the van? Where was the Trump thing when he went to Saudi Arabia and he got his mobile McDonald's? We live in a world where, you know, TikTok is... Adverts are innocuous and insidious, right? 90% of them, you don't realise they're an ad in the first place. They're just a joke or something funny. Ads are viral now. Advertising agencies are not

about the obvious ones, right, in front of you. Yes, you can't directly advertise cigarettes, but they find ways to do it. And they used to find ways to do it. Like they'd make the villain or the cool guy smoke it in a movie. Like even today, cigarette companies have very clever ways to promote cigarettes without you realizing it. And look at the vapes, right? Like it's always changing. Vapes aren't advertised, but they clearly are somehow, the way they work. And it's all happening in the shadows. There is a very strong advertising standard agency here in the UK that we have to follow very careful guidelines for. And they've come down very hard on influencers. And in fact, now is the case that if you receive anything... So for example, like Nintendo asked us to come down the other day to London and see their Switch 2.

And they said, you know, we'll pay for you to come, but we expect a video on your channel in return for coming and getting a look at the Switch 2. And I said to the agency, I said, I could see that there were some channels who think this would be good, but this is effectively just a brand deal where we don't get paid. You know, we have to say it's an ad, because we're getting travel money to go there. We have to take care of it as an ad in the thumbnail and in the video description. Even though we're not getting paid. But in fact, it's even worse than that. If we get sent a key to a game, that is an ad in the UK. We now have to declare that as an ad. So a lot of us here in the OXCAST are refusing keys and buying the games ourselves, so we

don't have to declare a game that we want to play as an ad. Cause we don't want to run afoul of these rules. And these rules are quite strict because they've been flouted for so long by so many influencers not declaring it, not thinking they have to declare it. And so much goes untracked. There are so many ads that are not Marx's ads, and it's everywhere. Right?

You, like, even like, it used to be, classic examples would be in James Bond movies, or in episodes of The Office. You know, there'll be an advert for Subway and community, right? And that's an advert, but you are not told, it doesn't come up on the screen at the time. It's not even in the credits sometimes, but this is ubiquitous. You'll be advertised to all the time in insidious ways. Trump is advertising a fucking Tesla on the White House lawn. A Tesla. This is the White House law. A Tesla. This is the world we're living in.

A Tesla. A Tesla. It's got a lot of computers. It's got wheels. Apparently it's something called a car. We have cars now. You can put your groceries in the front. Hold on a minute.

It's my Parkinson's. At least it's a show on handicapped Parkinson's. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front.

I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge on the front. I don't have a blue badge and the president executive order says I can park here. Oh, well, wait a minute. I always park here. All right, let's move on. At least the adverts on our podcast are actually fucking adverts, alright? I would like to know, if a famous person was to ask to come on the podcast as a guest appearance, would you let them?

And if yes, who is the least famous person you would let on? The least famous person? Yeah. So how far down the ladder of fame would we go? So that's the point. We don't do guests very often at all, like if ever, really. But let's say that someone famous got in touch and was like, you know what? I don't want to, you know, blow you guys a trumpet's too hard or whatever. But I'm a big fan of the podcast and I'd love to come on if you'll have me as a guest.

And it was like fucking Steven Spielberg. So we're going to get him on. Yeah, I don't know. It's so hard. How far down the ladder would you accept? I feel like nowadays you have to filter out so many people, you know, like I wouldn't. I would just want like somebody that I kind of know and already sort of like and somebody who's just going to talk about like games or something. You know what I mean? Like I would hate to have somebody on who talked about something really serious.

So we wouldn't get Nunchopsky on, having mentioned him earlier. Yeah. But it's serious. It would be too serious. We could just think of a guest, perhaps they're like a comedian or a film star or a musician or something. What is the least famous person that would be like, yes, it'd be worth having them on? Whereas someone, you know, maybe a little too, like, that we'd just be like, I don't even know who this person is. So we just need to think of the lowest level of famous that we would have on as a guest.

Mason- What are you talking about? Fame is different to how it was nowadays. There's no A, B, C list or whatever. People can be famous in their own way that you've never heard of. Like, name the biggest YouTuber. MrBeast. PewDiePie. No, PewDiePie is like ten years ago. I think it's MrBeast now. No, no, I thought he was, he's still like, I think he's in the top ten of most watched

things. He's in the top ten, but I think he's like number ten now. Like, he's being pushed down, I think. I mean MrBeast is surely the most famous YouTuber in the world right now. Alright, he is the biggest. Fair enough. But like, alright, name the second biggest. Apart from like, the Coco Melons and the T-Series and all that shit.

That kid that opens up stuff. Oh yeah, what was that guy, Ethan Opens or Ethan Plays or whatever. I don't know if he's that big. I think second- Well, he's a little older now. Yeah, yeah, he would be, yeah he's that big. I think second, he's a little older now. Yeah. Yeah. He would be. Yeah. Um, second biggest. I have no, no clue. It's, it's impossible. I don't watch YouTube that much.

No, I don't even, to be honest, I don't really, I don't really watch YouTube. Name the biggest TikTok star. Like, you know, but these people could be hugely famous. The biggest TikTok star is probably Asian. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not asking you to name specifically the most famous of this or so. But to a different person, a different people, different levels of famous. Right, but mate, I'm not asking you to name someone you don't know. That's a ridiculous question.

So what you're basically asking us is, I'll narrow it down for you. So you're asking the most famous I'll narrow it down for you. So you're asking the most famous people to us on the podcast. No, I'm saying, let's imagine, to narrow it down so it doesn't get into a big thing, think of someone that's famous in the UK, like for example, a fucking somebody off Strictly Come Dancing. There you go. I don't know anyone on Strictly Come Dancing.

I don't know who that is. You don't know who Len is? Ben Fogel. No. That guy. No, no idea. Never watched a show. Have you heard of Ben Fogel? I heard of Ben Fogel because he, yeah, I have heard of him. Okay. Would you have Ben Fogel on the podcast?

He's like, I'd say he was like just about, he's like D-list, C-list, D-list celebrity. I think Ben would be upset to hear that. Yeah, I'd get Ben Fogel on the podcast. Great. Well, I've got good news for you. I've laid on Ben Fogel being on next week's podcast. Is his wife alright with that? Well, I think she wants to also get off my Fogel. I really thought this was a very decent and straightforward question. We're thinking of the least famous UK celebrities. Lewis is just overcomplicating it.

Like for example, one of the ladies from Mel and Sue, either Mel or Sue, you know? Are we thinking like people like a former Blue Peter presenter? Exactly! Exactly. Or like a fucking... right. Like a Love Island contestant. Kids, like a child presenter or something, you know? Like Mr. Tumble.

You know, like people that are kind of... Oh, I wouldn't have that fucker on. No chance. You wouldn't have me. You wouldn't have... What about Chris Packer? I hate Chris Tumble. I know you do. The voice of Sean the Sheep you wouldn't have on-

Get him off! You are a monster. What about, like, um... Daddy Pig. Get Daddy Pig on. Isn't Daddy Pig voiced by, uh, oh no, it's not. One of the Peppa Pig characters is voiced by Brian Blessed though. I think it's... Oh yeah, I can't remember which one it is. I think it's like a grandpa rabbit or something.

He has a boat and he's just absolutely screaming his head off the whole time. We could get absolute zero lists, like the kind of Buzzcocks level celebrities, you know, on, who are... They were in, like the drummer in a band you've heard of, you know, he's like, oh the... Phil Tuchnell. No, stuff like that. Yeah.

Like, presented a home in the sun or whatever. Richard Ridings is the voice of Daddy Pig. Richard Ridings. Yeah. Again, a two, I think I have to have heard of him. And that doesn't count, right? Fair enough. I think we all have to have heard of this and that doesn't count. Right? Fair enough. I think we all have to have heard of this person for them to be...

Greg Wallace. Mick Hucknall. Two famous and cancelled. Two famous and cancelled. Russell Brand. We're not in the UK. Russell Brand. We can't have Russell Brand on ever.

Bill Cosby. Two famous and a rapist. These guys are all... Bill Cosby. Stop being a rapist! In jail or heading to jail. They're not podcasting anymore. By 2027, Russell Brand will be in jail or heading to jail. They're not podcasting anymore.

By 2027 Russell Brown will be in jail. Gary Glitter. Okay. Rolf Harris from the grave. Who else? We need comedians. We need like the kind of people on the Adam Buxton podcast. We don't need comedians on.

We don't need people that are going to show us up. The only thing we've got is to show us up. Epstein. Get him on. Talk about the island. Be Diddy. R. Kelly. Adam Johnson. Jesus Christ. This is a, this fucking list, man.

What is wrong with people? Why are they doing these things? Why are they, why are they like this? Okay. Okay. Okay. You know, I love the Adam Buxton podcast. Yeah, me too. I love it. Let's look through, let's through, so obviously Louis Theroux, great, you know, huge guest.

He'll be like an A-list guest. There's no, there's no possible way in any universe that Louis Theroux is, is talking on this podcast. Coming on the podcast. Or anyone even remotely famous or successful. I know, hang on. Let me keep going. Richard Aoradi, no. Like, no way. Okay? Yeah, but you're listing me.

We can't start at the top and work our way down. We'll be here all day. Start at the bottom. But then, he's got two celebrities I've never heard of. Kate Mossman. I don't know who that is. Who's that? She's the male version of Kate Moss.

Rob Burley. Right. Who's that? Dame Mary Beard. Kee-El Smith Bino, Kim Deal. Kim Deal is a bass player for the Pixies. Kim Deal? Are you serious?

I didn't have Kim Deal on. She's a legend. Kim Deal is one of my all time favourite musicians. She used to play bass for the Pixies, in the Breeders. Her and her sister. Well, I've never heard of her, so she's out, right? Okay. Tasha Demetriou. Yeah. What's

his face is sister. She's in what we do in the shadows. She's also in staff as well. She's hilarious. Listen to the episode when she's on Adam Buxton's podcast. I think she's only been on once, but it's fucking hilarious. She is actually so I absolutely love her. Yeah, she's brilliant. She is good. Alright, yeah, go listen to that podcast, it's just better than this one. Yeah, it's better than this shit. Louis misunderstands a simple question. Do you see what I mean?

No, like, you know, he's got people like Werner Herzog. Yeah, well, his podcast is doing really well! Super famous! But then he's got people we've never heard of. Do you see what I'm saying, though? He's also fairly established, too. He's been famous for a long time, Adam Buck. Also, he's real world famous.

He's not internet famous. He's been on TV and shit. He's been on TV, he's done voice work for TV shows, all sorts. Do you want to hear, this is outside the mailbag. This is a new feature called outside the mailbag. This is a new feature called Outside the Mailbag. This is a comment on Reddit. Lulu really on one in Mailbag 54. Are you too angry to hear this Lulu?

Do you want me to give you a nice email? No, no, I'm chill. I'm actually chill. He is pissed right off. I'm actually fine. He's blown a gasket. He's... I just, the reason that we were looking at that podcast was because I think it gave us a benchmark

of what we could get. I'm unrealistic. We couldn't get any of them. Not one. Not even one. Okay. This is really an angry email. A message on Reddit about you.

Are you sure you want to hear it? Yeah, yeah. Alright, you're a bold fellow. I mean, just to give you some, whatchamacallit background, someone says, don't mailbag this. Paul Lewis gets bullied enough and Perian can't help but read these ones. And then someone said Lamal valid. And I said, oh, this is getting talked about. So Lewis's take on AI is just passivism. Right. A whole bunch of smoke blown about how we can't stop it, etc.

without any mention of the negative effects and plenty about his perceived positives. I don't remember the conversation that way, I must say. For someone who claims to be an environmentalist, we really glossed over the gross environmental impact just to be excited about replacing voice actors and audiobook readers. Again, I don't think we were saying that was a good thing, were we? I thought that quite conclusively we were saying it's inevitable and it's just going to happen.ively, we were saying it's inevitable, and it's just gonna happen. Yeah, we were saying that it's a shame that it will probably happen. I think there's a certain... I think I agree with this. I think there is a certain, with

me, a feeling of giving up around the fact that it's impossible to resist. I don't trust that the governments of the world will do anything about it. And I think, you know, they don't know what to do. They don't even really understand the internet. No. It's a load of old white men who don't even like... I mean, look at who's in charge? Everyone. Computers, groceries, it's a great word. I just don't believe that anything's... I'm trying to be realistic about the situation. I don't think hoping that the government will fix it is the answer. But I think they're the only people who can. Because everyone else is just greedy.

They are so much slower than the tech bros at the forefront of this wave of bullshit. Yeah. Our government systems were set up for a world that was hundreds of years ago. And very slow moving. It's not agile. Yeah. And it's run by a gerontocracy. It's old man. I mean, do you remember the TikTok thing where the guy was like, if I have to talk on my Wi-Fi, if it's on my phone and I use it,

can it access my Wi-Fi? And he's like, yes. Well, this is unacceptable. I mean, I fucking love those questions from people. They're so funny. So if I if I take my phone and I upload a video on TikTok, it's on TikTok. Everyone can see it. Yes, that's exactly how we're... But here's the other thing I know that ties hand in hand with that. Major change causes

major problems and I want the world to carry on. And I think that on the back of the threat of things like the terrifying spectre of nuclear war, is it worth changing the way we make the world in order to stop AI? Probably not is what I'm trying to say. I'm just waiting for it to take over. I've given up. I'm like, it's going to take over. I'll be nice to it. Sure, I have a very negative outlook, but I think it's... AI, if you're listening, I've always been a fan. Have you a number one fan? Basically, I'm in charge of rounding up the non-believers.

I'll happily do it. Don't get me wrong, like, the fact that Google search has been replaced by an AI is frightening. Frightening stuff. But, I don't, I'm not the sm- I'm a fucking idiot, guys. I'm not being charged. I don't know why people expect us to have a solution. I am like an absolute penis. I know nothing, right? I'm just talking, I'm just repeating garbage that I've been half learned for the last 40 years. And don't listen to me. I might

be a doomsayer, but I'm also very ignorant. He's also a pus slayer. I think there's a lot of things that you can just choose not to use as well. You don't have to use most of this stuff or any of this stuff really. If you have a big problem with it. The thing is, most people don't have a problem with it because most people don't even notice it changing or whatever. A lot of it is seamless. The fact that Google searches is AI now, nobody would have noticed that unless you're interested in AI and you keep up to date with the news. But the average person is not doing that. They don't care. They just want to go on their phone and say, oh, my shit looked weird today. What's wrong with me? And as long as that still works, they'll never question it.

They're happy with it. And I'm the same. I'm like, yeah, I'm involved. I don't want the planet to catch fire and there's plastic to pollute all the rivers, but I'm also a bubble boy. I'd say the vast majority of the population doesn't look into this stuff. You know, like I feel like people who look into this stuff and they're in a bubble where other people are looking into this stuff or whatever, it's very easy for them to convince

themselves, like, oh shit, everybody knows this! But no, you talk to an average person and they will just give you a blank stare, like, what are you talking about? No, not a lot of people bother to delve into a lot of this stuff and look into it. I have great respect to people who go out there and protest and force change and make change. Yeah. I think that it does wear you down.

And I have most recently been very depressed about it. And I think burying my head in the sand is often, you know, I would like to cut myself off from this stuff and go and live on a fucking boat in the middle of the ocean away from it all. Fire me it to Mars. Do you know what I mean? Like, it is frightening. And yes, I also understand that the world is getting better and things are improving

and the trajectory is good and I know that people are good natured by their... Most people want positive change. And I think that that is the general direction that the world's going. I think from day to day it doesn't feel that way and it's very depressing. But at the same time, like, we don't really know. Like, there is this great fear that AI is going to cause all these problems. But I don't know. I think that's the thing. I think the prevailing sentiment is that, is it really that bad? Is it really worse than what we've got? Is it, you know, sometimes these things replace things and it's a good thing. Yeah. I feel it's frightening.

It would just be good if they would spend as much time and effort and money on some of this stuff, making people be able to just live, uh, normally and not in total poverty all the time. You know what I mean? They spent so much effort and time and money on all this shit. And you just think, well, it wouldn't it be great if just everybody was, was paid a living wage, like, you know, regardless of the job that they, you know, work on that one, spend some time and work on that one. Spend some time and work on that one. And then, you know, maybe people would just feel a little tiny bit better about things. Mason- Well, here's the thing, Sips, you need to understand as well.

Sips- Fucking communist! Get him out of the podcast! Mason- Here's the thing that you don't want to hear. If, and this is how the rich think, like Elon, if he gives all his money to the poor and elevates all those poor to live a decent standard of living, suddenly they're going to be creating a lot more pollution. By keeping the poor poor, they're not creating plastic waste, they're not using air con, they're not using electricity, they're not using computers, whatever. Who's thinking that? They're rich. They've always thought this way.

No, they don't give a fuck about the environment. What are you talking about? The serfs. But in the back of their mind, they think it's good. No, they just love money and power. I don't think they give a shit about poor people. It's back at the days of kings and peasants, you know. Yeah, but the king wasn't like, we can't have all these plastic bottles around here.

This is ridiculous. No, but it was different then. If you had an educated middle class who were consumers, then they would be more likely to rise up. It would be better to keep them all in the dirt. Keep everyone in the dirt. It's always been the way. It's the way of kings, and we have kings now. We have kings. I don't think that they're thinking about consumption and the environment. I think they are definitely thinking, we don't want people to be political anymore and to have... I mean, so here's an example.

I'm watching the Bob Dylan movie, the Timothée Chalamet one. It's a really good movie and it struck me that there isn't a movement these days united by music that has a purpose. It's people united by music that they enjoy, which is fine. I'm the same. But there used to be musicians out there and musical movements that were based on protest. And now that scene is kind of out of date, despite the fact that I think we need it now as much as we ever have. So to me, the problem is that we have all been given this sort of pacifier, if you like, of the internet and streaming. And there's so much to do in your free time.

So much to be true to. Jason Vale Society's fractured. It's not the same. Everyone is doing their own little niche. Will Barron Society's always been fractured. Jason Vale No, not to this extent. Not to this extent. You can go and get a little Discord for your hobby and have celebrities and TV shows and music that only you and your little groups listen to. It's so fractured. You can speak to someone who is your age in your group and they will name celebrities you don't know, they'll name TV shows you've never seen or

heard of, they'll name movies you've never seen or heard of, they will name music you've never seen or heard of. And it's, that is the reality that the world, it used to be this, everyone watched the same things, they had the same exposure, they had relatively few sources of entertainment. And so, yes, the only way to listen to folk music was tied in with that movement. With the climate and the caring and the green movement. Now, it isn't that. You can get rap music that is nothing to do with where it came from. Right? And so, you can have no idea of the history and the culture of it and be a fan. And it's, the world is different.

It's a blended mixture. You can have people living in weird places, you know, in North Korea who are fans of Manchester United. It's it's it's that we they fucking deserve that season. Fuck you, North Korea. You guys are one of the worst teams in Premier League. Hope you love it. Hope you'll love in this as much as we we we as as as 40 year old men. We just pull up the table. I want to look at it again just to see this glorious Premier League table.

Oh, I'm salivating just at the boarder. I know, I didn't see that. Oh, I'm 16. Anyway, we do, we still, there is still some culture that we share. But it's like, as 40-year-old men, the world has changed since, from the world we grew up in and we think we know. But think what that's like for the 60 or 70 year old leaders. Their world just changed twice. Right? And they have no concept of what it's like. They're detached. And also, they're trying to just live and like survive and get through it. You know? And they've got their own shit going on. Everyone's got their own shit going on. They got some, they got fucking IBS, and they've got their own shit going on. Everyone's got their own shit going on. They got some... They got fucking IBS and they've got, you know, they've got the TikTok, the wifi, they've

got, you know, their mistress... I'm not laughing at people with IBS, I'm aware it's a real problem. Do you know what I mean? Like, everyone's got all of these like ping pong balls bouncing around in their head and it is hard to... Well, can I make... You know what, here's a little piece of free unsolicited advice. I uninstalled TikTok last week and it was a great thing and you should all do it. I don't know if I mentioned it yesterday on the podcast. You did, yeah, yeah, you mentioned it.

Uninstalled TikTok. It will improve your brain, genuinely. Get rid of it. It's absolute junk. It's, yeah, I've tried, I've tried. I'm doing it bit by bit. I blocked Reddit the other day. Yeah. You blocked Reddit for a week. Yeah.

I just want to say, when people say, I should quit smoking, but then they won't give up things like TikTok, I'm just saying, it's not as easy as you think to give something up every day. Of course it's not. And everybody has this. Everybody struggles with things differently as well. I think it's something like smoking is tied into lots of other, well, maybe like tick tock as well. Like if you're spending a lot of time, uh, on tick tock, it may be, uh, it may be something that you're doing, um, to, um, you know, procrastinate doing something else or hide from something else, or, you know, mask your, your feelings or something like that.

But smoking and other addictions are the same. Playing too many games, they're all the same. It's all escapism to some extent. You just don't want to have to deal with something that you find painful or something or even subconsciously you're not thinking about it very often, but your brain is just like, yeah, I need to do this or whatever. We are all addicted to things and you can't help it. It's just monkey brain stuff. You don't feel bad. By the way, I am addicted to quite a few things. One of them, I don't need people to keep messaging me on Instagram about this. I am aware that you

guys can see all the thirst traps that I follow on Instagram. I'm well aware of this. I am aware that you guys can see all the thirst traps that I follow on Instagram. I'm well aware of it. I do not care if I cared I would have a burner account. Yes, I follow a lot of very hot ladies on Instagram. I enjoy it. If you have a problem with it, don't follow me on Instagram. But I do not need to be told about it. I am well aware. Thank you. But what I'm saying is that, you know, don't feel bad that you struggle with things you're addicted to. Feel good when you resist them. That's all. That's my little bullshit bit of saying wisdom. We're going to have to end this podcast. So all the trifles added to this. I'm addicted to this podcast. I can't.

Yeah. I can't. I can't. Well, we're going to have to wait. I dare ending it right now. We're doing our best to break that addiction by being so miserable and talking about holocaust this week. Yeah, we do. Oh, depressing. Well, people bring these topics up. It's only fair we talk about it. It does happen. The world we live in.

It does. Yeah. And especially in the past couple of months, it's been even more so, there's been lots going on, right? So I think we've actually done really well to not talk about a lot of it. Try and be positive people. It's been a crazy period we live in. It's been a crazy millennium, in all honesty. The best thing you can do is be good to one another. So yeah, do that. Alright.

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