Triforce! - Thunderclap McCrushman Von Wolfenstein III | Triforce #340
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Pickax
Pickax
All right, you ready to mark?
Yep.
Three, two, one.
Mark!
I think that's maybe one of our best marks yet.
That's excellent, Mark.
I want you back, if you can,
so synchronized.
Keep that mark in to let people know
what a professional Mark sounds like.
Well, on it sound like the B-sharps when we're all like,
Mark, Mark, yeah.
Welcome, everyone to the Shrifles podcast.
Oh, gosh.
Today, we're slapping each other on the back about being able to say Mark in sync.
At the same time, yeah.
We're full adults, full responsible adults.
Little victories.
You have to celebrate the small wins that come along, you know?
You have to celebrate the really big ones, too, though.
Don't forget about the big ones.
or the small ones.
Of course.
All the wins.
Any win is worth celebrating.
Exactly.
I've got to say, you know, it's one degree outside.
It's cold day.
It was hailing here earlier.
It snowed here yesterday.
Yesterday morning.
Frid breeze across Britain.
And we're in full swing preparation for jingle jam as a time of recording.
Time is ticking away.
I got some bad news for you guys.
I was going to try to come down for the jingle jam,
but I don't think I can now
because our local airline has gone bust.
The one with the Bristol route
went into voluntary liquidation
like two days ago.
Blue Islands.
Yeah, Blue Islands gone, yeah.
They're done.
Damn.
Poor old blue islands.
And they owe the states of Jersey
nine million pounds.
Well, funny you should ask that
because the boat schedule
is not available this winter either.
the new ferry service that the island got last year have decided that there's no winter schedule.
So if you live here and you're away for university or whatever, you're trying to get home for
Christmas, I don't know what you can do.
You're swimming, I guess.
You're like Greenland.
You're, you know, we're isolated.
We're completely isolated, yeah.
That's it.
Apparently, Logan Air are stepping in to potentially take over.
I don't know if they're going to be taking over route for route what Blue Islands is left behind.
but Logan Air were trying to make a play to get into the island, but on a longer time frame.
And they've been given a whole bunch of money from the local government to speed things up and do it in the next 48 hours.
So that would be interesting.
Oh, well, so you think you will be able to come?
No, I don't think, I think by the time everything gets sorted out and settled and stuff, I think it'll be months.
Oh, tell me, P-Flex, you haven't got some sort of cancellation for Jingle Jam.
Oh, God, you can just try it.
sincerely hope not. You just drive up. I'll fucking run if I need to run down there. Okay. Well,
run up and down. I mean, I know that this is Sips coming up with an excuse. You know, the airline's
gone. No, it's in the news. It's in the news. It's real. It's real. It's real. I mean, I can,
I can get as far as London, but then I got to make my way, you know what I mean? Like, it's like,
my cat's going to be ill that time. You know, my wife's boyfriend's coming around. Yeah, he, well, he lives
with us.
He doesn't need to come around.
Stuff.
Well, already,
Zilis isn't coming to Jingle Jam
because he can't find
a suitable dog sitter
for his dog revving.
And I understand that's important.
Can't find a dog shitter at time.
It's just not dog shit.
Man, I should have used that one.
I could have gotten away with it better
with an excuse like that, yeah.
I had to concoct up this whole lie
about the local airline.
it's like easily bring bring bring bring remi because he has a dog passport little doggy
passport remi mary um his his dog his dog rome he's like he's like a he's like a fancy
he's like he's a doodle he's one of the doodle varieties he's a doodle they don't shed apparently
doodles yeah he's like a a lovely soft winter jumper in dog form um they don't shed much
Labradoodle
That would be
That would be no good for you Sips
Because you'd never get visited
If they don't
They don't shed
To the shed
To see you
That was I don't know
I was experimental
Are you feeling what
Joke
I'm not feeling great
To be honest
I think it's the
It's the weather
Plus
The pressures
You know
I'm moving
So I started thinking about
I started making a list
Of all the things I need to do
Right
It's like
On the list was
Make terrible jokes
or is that it's just throwing me through a loop I'm sure everyone's similar top of the list
you guys know these this game five hearts under one roof no I've never heard of that
is it a sexual content game yeah I think it's I think it might be Korean it might be
might be Korean I don't know either way it's it's about these it's got FMV in it it's an
FMV game so I added this to my fucking wish list the other day because I thought that looks like
It would be a fun game to stream, and people would be like,
holy shit, what is this?
Because I sometimes like to throw a curveball like that.
I then, my buddy messages me that evening.
He's like, notice you added five hearts under one roof, too, to your wish list.
Thinking of streaming it, and I could see, he was making sure that I was going to stream it.
And I wasn't just gooning to it.
And I was like, yes, of course.
That would be hilarious.
And he was like, cool.
Oh, I found it.
Five Hearts Under One Roof Season 2.
FMV, dating sim, Choices Matter, immersive sim.
Right.
And then...
It's not overly sexual.
It's not really sexual.
It's sending me heart signals.
Exactly.
So then I noticed...
One of them is called Gran.
The Triforce subreddit this morning.
Someone posted a clip of Northern Lions saying, it's not porn.
It can't be porn because Perian Flacks added it to his wish list.
So you don't know me that one.
All the women, the lovely characters in it have lovely Korean names, Minjun Park, Yun Bingo,
and Gran Dong.
Dong.
Grand dog, yeah.
I don't know if I would want to date someone whose name was Grand Dong.
What about somebody whose name was Agnes?
That's my dog's name.
Yeah, but, okay, for a dog, it's a cute name.
And my friend's girlfriend is named Agnes, and she's lovely.
Okay, fine.
I'll think of another name.
How about Helga?
So many people change their names.
I'd love to meet a Helga, wearing a durnal of some kind, some kind of busty.
Oh, hi, I'm, hello, Edward, it is I, Helga.
Come on, who does he hay with me?
That's Helga.
I'm all about that.
Okay, what about guys' names?
Guys' names that don't sound very sexy.
Go.
Well, I don't find any guys sexy.
What about Aloysius?
What about Aloysius is a pretty nerdy?
Aloysius could be an absolute dish.
It still ain't doing it for me.
Alloicious.
Well, I think it sounds like a nerds name, personally, but.
I'm sure it does.
There are a lot of names that don't do it for me.
Yeah.
I just, but the funny thing is with names is that it entirely depends on your experience.
Because as soon as I say a name, like, E need it,
you know, Enid.
Enid, Pyrin will be like, oh, my four-year-old goes to school with an Enid.
Yeah.
It's coming around again.
It's like, okay.
Yeah.
I wouldn't date a four-year-old either, so I guess, like, is it still out?
Do I mean, if it's coming around again, that's not, it's still in the, in the Venn diagram of old lady names that are unattractive and very young children names.
Yeah.
I don't think that game is a porn game, by the way.
No, it's just, it's literally.
like a dating game.
It's a dating,
Choices Matter,
immersive sim.
I don't think it has,
yeah,
it sounds correct.
It's sometimes tricky to tell,
though,
but I guess most of the ones
that are horn
tend to be cartoon-based
or like animated
in some way
rather than
live action.
Wow,
there are, in fact,
tons of these games.
Yes.
Five Hearts Under One Roof,
two.
What about Road to Empress?
That's another full motion video
game flax that maybe you would like to add to your wish list as well. You've never played a
game like this before. Road to Empress 1 is a cinematic palace adventure where your choices
decide everyone's fate. Palace adventure. A palace adventure, yeah. Tackle multiple story branches and
high mortality. Road to Empress 1. We were going to play this this week and Braves just played
the whole thing. It's actually really cool. It's an FMV game. These games are like not good
well apparently this one is fine
but these games typically are
where's the titties I'm out
this one I'm out
no interest
there's a whole trend towards these
not having titties in them though that's the thing
I think they're trying to
game then that's just a game
yeah but I think they're trying to
reestablish the genre after
basically the whole genre
was hijacked by that creepy
guy who taught people how to date or whatever
what was that one called super seduce
that's the one yeah
but since before that and even since
that there hasn't really been anything amazing in this genre.
Are you forgetting contradictions, sir?
I am absolutely for you.
I don't even know anything about it.
Do you think that you Sips would have changed?
If you were like Ariana Grande, I think she'd have changed her name from, I think, in fact,
I think actually that is her name, but I think it's Ariana Grande Boutera.
She used to have a Grande Boutera now.
She's too skinny now.
I think she's bringing back that anorexic look.
It's kind of depressing, actually.
Yeah, it's not a good look.
It is very sad.
But she's obviously taken out the butt era because it's sort of slightly like yours is Chris loves ass.
Do you, I'm sorry to bring back the school room bullying.
Why would you say that so flatly in the same way to say he loves ham sandwiches?
Like, you know, it's like he's literally.
Chris loves ass.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Chris loves us.
Oh, do you think that if you'd got into acting, you would have thought,
seriously about changing your name
because I probably would have done as well.
I think my...
I've never really been
all that comfortable with my name
or thought it was like catchy.
What, Lewis Brindley?
Lewis ever since the door board.
Louis.
Louis Brinley.
Hello.
Yes, my name,
thank you for the audition opportunity.
My name is Lewis Brindley.
And I will be
appearing as Ariano Grande Boutera today.
Thank you.
Oh.
I can't wait.
I don't know if I would bother.
Like, some people's names sound too good to be true, right?
Like, I don't think Tom Cruise's real name is Tom Cruise, for example.
That does sound too good.
It sounds too good to be true.
I always feel like every Hollywood celebrity from back in the day.
His name is Tom Cruise Mapathur, the fourth.
Nice.
Mapother.
M-A-P-O-T-H-E-R.
Damn.
Like, I feel like every Hollywood star, like, I don't know, who should I just, if I just pick one
random person, like, Eddie Lamar, right, Hedy Lamar.
Yeah, exactly.
Her real name was Hedvig, Eva, Maria, Keith Kaisler.
Kiskeisler.
Right.
It was a classic thing where you would reinvent yourself with this quite unique name, right?
Yeah.
And I guess Hedy is only a short thing.
What about Marilyn Monroe?
Was that really her name?
Marilyn Monroe.
It can't be, right?
It just sounds way too good to be true.
Tits McGee.
Marilyn, oh, I talked to Marilyn Manson.
Marilyn Manson is Bruce Hugh Warner.
Right.
Marilyn Monroe.
Bruce, she had a different ring to it.
Her real name was Norma Jean, of course.
Norma Jean, of course, yeah.
Norma Jean Mortensen.
Do you want to hear some other celebrity real names?
Yes.
Well, Reese Witherspoons, so I don't know why this is a big reveal.
It's actually Laura Jean Reese Witherspoon.
So she just went for the end.
A lot of people grab their middle name and use that.
Some don't.
Katie Perry.
It was Kate Catherine Hudson.
She adopted her mother's maiden name, Perry, which is there.
Natalie Portman is probably the craziest one.
Netter Lee Herschlag.
Wow.
Yeah, that's nuts.
Demi Moore is Demetria Gene Geinus.
Demetria Jean Guinness.
Pleasure to make your acquaintance.
My name is Horatio.
Horatio Edmund
Floppenstein the third
I'm afraid to say you have a terrible
Demetriotian Gines
All right, how about
Joaquin Phoenix? His real name is
Joaquin Raphael Bottom
His parents ditched the last name
Bottom in 1970
and reinvented themselves as the Phoenix
You've got ass in my name too
Maybe maybe this is it
Maybe it's time for me to change
Think of a cool name for me to take on then
because I can't think of any.
Are you happy with Chris?
No, I want something more exciting.
If I'm changing, I'm going big.
I'm not just going to, I'm not just going to be a change.
How about, no, but how about similar, but not so like Chris with a Zed?
Terd Ferguson.
We've got to go big here, guys.
It's got to be a big change.
What about the first name's thunder clap?
You have to, like, spice it up.
Right.
Like, Ringo Starr.
Thunder clap devastator, Muck, Crushman.
Van Wulfen.
Von Wolfenstein.
What about having Wolfenstein in there somewhere?
Yeah, we could put Thunder Clap Wolfenstein, the third.
That sounds cool.
You can push that in there.
Some of these, so Jamie Fox's real name is Eric Marlon Bishop.
That's very different from Jamie Fox.
Oh, so he changed his name to Jamie Fox so that he would appear on, people would mistake him for a female comedian.
So he would think they would always get a slot.
So he called himself Jamie Fox with two exes, so the bookers would think he was a woman.
And then, and then that's it.
That's it.
And then he would get the slot.
That can't be right.
That doesn't sound right.
Most people that have cool names definitely have boring real names.
Like for example, the Wu-Tang Clan all have cool names, for instance.
He wanted to, okay, Jamie Fox, it says he chose it because it was ambiguous enough to
disallow any biases with his surname attribute to the black comedian Red Fox.
And yeah, female queens were often.
called first to perform and he wanted to be up there first. So he thought he could trick them.
But Red Fox's name wasn't that. It was John Elroy Sandford.
Right.
Well, listen, okay, listen to these names. Okay, the Riza's real name is Robert Diggs.
The Jizz's real name is Gary Grice.
Oh, I hate that one.
Oh, I hate that one. Yeah, I think we talked about this. Method man is Clifford Smith.
Maybe even within the last two months.
Rayquine is Corey Smith. Maybe they're related. You got a Jason Hunter in there, Inspector
to deck.
Master Killers' name is
Elgin Turner.
It just wouldn't be the same, right?
If it was like the latest LP
from Elgin Turner.
Yeah.
Gary.
They have these really cool names.
Capadonna's real name is Daryl Hill.
Like these are the names of electricians.
You know, like you'd have an electrician round.
Hi, I'm Daryl Hill, local electrician.
But then they put on their stage names and all of a sudden it's like,
whoa, this guy is more than an electrician.
He's, I guess it's part of their costume.
It is. Yeah. And I think
coming back to
we were talking about Hollywood stars the same, it is
just a part of like a... So I think
in some ways it's a persona that they make
and they acted out too, you know? Some
actors... What did you settle on Harvey Thunderclap?
What was it? What did you...
No, it was a Thunderclap
von Wolfenstein.
Oh, you're bringing the German back. Yeah, we wanted
to go in big. They got rid of the...
No, no, we're going the other way now.
That's a real... The impigrant surname.
Yeah. I'm going to bring back Goebbels. My name is...
The gherblers are proud of it.
The world is ready for another garrows.
Oh my God.
That is way too pretty, actually, P-Flex.
Holy shit.
Well, you think there'll be another gherbles coming up.
Well, the way the right wings are taken over, you know.
Well, don't want to get into politics, Lewis.
If you're going to do that, we're going to balance it out.
Oh, go, boof, Stalin, eh?
I'm wearing a diaper.
Not those tree fucking hub-hugging grie hippies who love their fucking
Bloody, good nature.
You're woke.
Gun all woke.
Gosh, we can balance it out.
We've balanced it out.
Good balancing, guys.
Good balancing, guys.
We're not the BBC.
We have no obligation to be inverted, commas, balanced.
Which I always find so vague anyway.
What's the idea?
Well, what's the rules on that balance, you know?
I believe the point is that if you present something with
any editorializing, you have to present an alternate view to the one that you're
editorialized.
I see.
If something happened, some economic decision was made, and the only people you got on
the BBC to talk about it were people that you could point to and say, those people are clearly
left-wing, you know, like, Labour, liberal kind of left-wing, that that's not fair in describing
the situation to people explaining it, because there might be an alternative, conservative
take on that same decision that is not being presented.
The problem is that that idea, for me, is set up when both sides are still fairly close together.
It's just a slightly different opinion on what we should do in this situation.
When you have to both sides, the left with people who are like, you know, just off oil,
and the right, which are people like fascists, then you've got a problem.
And I think that is where a lot of this dystopian sort of modern politics is so depressing to me,
is that we're platforming people
that I think
even 15 years ago
we would have considered
an asthma to
politics
and now it's like
he's entitled to his opinion
actually
and this guy's arm
is just locked out
in a Nazi salute
that they can barely
fit him through the door
they've got him on
a fucking trolley
to wheel him in
Dickhouse
and like well
you know
we've got a balanced view
here
so we've brought in
recreation of him
my name is
Barrett
Santa Club von Neumann
and I'm in the size of out
he's entitled
to his opinion
So, you know, a question for the member of the audience here.
Yeah, hello.
My name is Herr Goebbels the second.
I'm not related to the real Goebbels.
My question is, if you are,
when will set plan for world domination?
This brain into action?
Good question, my friend.
We have never met.
What I would like to assure you that world domination will occur any moment now.
well thank you now over to the labor minister for bread
what do you have to say about it well no i think what's really important silence
that's literally all that happens on these shows now
yeah question time is uh is fucking outrageous sometimes if you ever watch it
depending on who they get on there it's just like
it's just artful dodgers you know that none of them fucking answer the question
you know they skirt around it skirt around it
They're almost laughing because it's so absurd how much they avoid answering a direct question.
But we just let it happen every time.
We just let it slide all the time.
Anyway, let's slide away from this because it does irritate all of us.
But so what have you guys be doing?
I want to hear something really mundane and boring you've done this week.
I'll tell you what I've been up to.
I went to Spain this weekend.
It was really fun.
I had a really fun time.
Yeah.
I went to Madrid.
I hadn't really been properly to Madrid.
We had a lot of time to just wander around and visit a lot of like old bars and drink a lot of nice beers.
And we had some vermouths and lots of olives.
They ate a lot of olives and breadsticks and some other fun snacks.
And we went to a lot of arcade bars as well, which were really fun.
They have like retro arcade machines in them.
You can drink a lot while you're there.
And there's like a bit of dancing, there's music and stuff.
Like it's a mixture of all sorts of stuff, but really fun.
We were playing a lot of puzzle fighter, if you remember that.
It's like street, street fighter with like,
mixed with like Dr. Mario, you play against each other.
You have to get like, you got to get like big, big, big combos,
big lines to send more stuff over to the other guy's side and stuff.
It was fun.
My friend beat me like eight times in a row.
I couldn't figure out how he was doing it.
And then it turned out.
out that he just said, I just dropped things really fast. That was his whole strategy. Yeah.
And I watched him play against my other friend one time because I need to learn the moves.
And it was like, this guy is not coherently making moves. Like, he is just guessing and dropping
stuff really fast, like he said. But he won. Every game, it was crazy.
After he told you that strategy, you didn't try and-
No, because I thought he was just, you know, trying to like deflect me away, you know?
Like, you know, sometimes you tell somebody, I'm just doing this, but like,
Like, they're really not telling you their strategy.
But he was, he was being truthful.
Maybe he just was trying to make you feel better.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
But it was, it was, it was fun.
I got to catch up with a bunch of guys I grew up and went to school with that I've
just, I've been in touch with, like, throughout.
And every once in a while when everybody is, is in, in or around Europe, and it's easy
enough for me to get over there, I go meet them.
And it was fun.
It was great.
I, uh, yesterday.
So it's my, my youngest.
She is 14 today
So happy birthday to her
And yesterday she had
Out of the blue a teacher training day
So they got the day of school
Oh my God
So we went in and met Mrs. F in town
For lunch
Mrs. F was at work
So we went to meet her for lunch
And we had steak and lobster
Is the name of the restaurant
Burger and lobster
Burger and lobster is cool
You eat both things at the same time
No you can choose a combination
Of the two
Right
So you can have a burger
You can have a lobster roll or you can have a lobster or you can have combos where you get a bit of each of those things.
Right. Okay.
I went for lobster and chips. Love a lobster.
Grilled, whole lobster, let's go. They both had a lobster roll.
And that was nice. And then we went shop and I bought her a couple of things.
You were well within the rules of having chips with other food on that one.
There was no. How do you mean?
There was it. It wasn't too.
What's the other carb? Chips and bread.
Chips and bread, yeah.
What bread?
Was the lobster stuffed with anything?
It was lobster.
It was a lobster.
Did they stuff it?
No, it was stuffed with its own flesh.
Right.
Did you suck it out of its shelf?
I did.
I got all the tools.
Was it really messy and slurping?
It was not that messy.
Did you have to use a bit of tools?
I didn't need a bib.
If you'd need a bib, you're probably eating like an animal.
Right.
It's not that hard.
It comes cut down the middle.
They cut it down.
Well, it comes sliced right down the middle.
They open it up for you.
They must have a thing.
They go, eh.
and just cuts it in half.
But it's like, it's beautiful.
And then, you know, when they've done that,
I think they boil it and then they grill it.
So it's all nicely done.
The only thing you've got to have trouble with
is cracking open the claws and the other joints.
Right.
Because the meat in there is delicious.
The dark meat.
You've got to get that out.
So they give you like a long pick and a pair of nutcrackers.
Do they chop its head off before they serve it to you?
They don't.
The head is there.
Little antenna's eyeballs looking at you.
It's just staring at you the whole time.
Don't eat me.
Stop eating my insides.
I saw him in the tank a minute ago.
And now I'm eating.
How could you do Mr. Pinchy like this?
Sorry, Mr. Pinchy, you're just too delicious.
Just like a tear forming in one of his dead eyes.
I can't believe this happened to me.
Sadly, he's just too delicious, so I had to eat him.
Nice.
And then, luckily I got Mrs. F's Christmas quiz.
Oh.
Her company does every year.
They do like a pub quiz for the company and the clients and stuff.
So I managed to get a copy of that quiz.
And I have the questions here.
If you'd like to buy a little bit of quizzing.
Yeah.
I'm definitely down for that.
All right.
We should just turn this into a quiz podcast, honestly.
We don't do quizzes that much, okay?
No, no, we don't do that much.
The last time we did a quiz was like probably 12 podcasts ago.
Like, we haven't done a quiz in so long.
Yeah, it's very rare.
We're looking forward to the quiz, Lewis.
Don't spoil this, all right?
Don't spoil this for me.
Don't spoil this.
Point Nemo is more than 1,600 miles from land.
Yeah.
It's so remote that the nearest humans are often on board, the ISS.
Yes.
And which ocean is Point Nemo?
Pacific.
Lewis Brindley.
Hang on, can you hear me?
Give me the question again.
So it's going on with my internet.
I can just, look, again, it's one of those podcasts where it's just going to be weird.
But ask me one more time.
Point Nemo, which ocean?
Oh, no idea.
Indian.
Hey, can I just say that this is such a timely question because just this morning,
while I was getting my youngest ready for school, she was watching a show on CBBs called GoJetters,
and they were talking about Point Nemo.
Are you serious?
I swear to God, yeah.
That's crazy.
What the hell? So you had insider information?
So this is fresh knowledge, insider information.
Who were Alan Carr's fellow traitors and celebrity traitors?
Well, all of them, there was like 20 of them.
No, no, no. There were two fellow traitors.
Oh, it was Jonathan Ross and it was, oh, I can't remember her name now.
Her name was like Chip Renigan or Chad Cheswick.
Cat Burns.
It's pretty close.
Cat Burns.
Is that a real name?
Sounds like it could be.
Which country will start using the euro on the 1st of January, 2026?
It is Slovenia.
It's not.
My 14-year-old's guess was Japan.
It's about as good as Slovenia as a guest.
It's a powerful guest.
It's Bulgaria.
It's just as wrong as our guess is.
It's Bulgaria.
Okay.
Am I at zero and sixes a two?
Well, yeah, but I don't know if you're listening because it keeps cutting out for you.
I'm listening.
I've just really done.
I've got a handicap.
He's funny listening.
And sweating and dumb.
So he is listening.
I've granted him that.
What I am saying is I'm not sure if he's hearing.
So I'm just kind of moving on.
Otherwise, we have to wait at the end of every question.
So just bark your answer out.
If you think you got one, just chuck it out there, Lulu.
He's got seven monitors with spreadsheets on them for jingle jam.
That's what's happening right now.
I do know something's going on with my home internet.
I think it's because they know I'm leaving this flat.
So it's just, it's on the way out.
All right.
So this one, bear in mind, this is a Christmas quiz.
Okay, everyone's got a little bit of tizzle.
little hat on. There's clients and there's people in the company there. Everyone's got a couple
of drinks. It's a laugh. This is question five of this Christmas quiz. Christmas quiz. The Quismuth
quiz. The Quismith quiz. You were you in Christmas stuff at the lobster place when you did the
quiz? No, I didn't do a quiz. Did Mr. Pinchie have a little Santa Claus hat on and a little beard?
No. She had her Christmas lunch in November. No. She, yes, this is, this is a lot of the time
companies will do this stuff before December because once you get to December, it's very hard to
book shit and everybody's busy.
Christmas parties are always like late November.
Well, why don't you book it in fucking July?
On that logic.
Because you have to involve clients and you're not sure if you'll still have those
clients in July.
All right.
I'm just covered on all the basis.
Just got an answer for everything, this guy.
I apologize.
So this is a quithmuth quith.
Clients are there.
Everyone's having a good time.
This is five questions in.
They ask this one.
Lena Medina is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history of what age did she give
birth to her son.
11.
She was five years old.
Fucking hell.
That is insanity.
So she went on to have a second son at 39.
But here's my thing.
This is a revolting question and answer.
This is absolutely horrible.
Yeah.
The implications of a five-year-old giving birth are...
Right.
We all know what this means.
So why is that in a Christmas?
I could not believe it.
Merry Christmas, everybody.
And goodwill to all men on Earth.
Wait, wait, wait.
We've got an update.
This is not a Christmas.
quiz. So they normally have this quiz in autumn
question and answer. Oh, it's like
a like a harvest jamboree quiz.
So this is a late quiz. You think
this is what they, the quiz they have for the free
harvest jamboree that they lay on for
all the employees. That's nice, actually.
That's a beautiful question. It's a fine.
Most people should be doing that.
It's the season to be. Name three women who were on
Epstein's Island.
I mean, what's the next one of
they've cut him out. They've cut him out.
They've been taken out.
They've shut him down.
One shot one kill.
CIA got him.
He knew too much.
Who's older?
Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt?
Tom Cruise.
By how many years?
Probably like 10?
Two.
Oh, sorry.
Tom Cruise is 63 and Brad Pitt is 61.
How about that?
How about that?
Donald Cruz looks older than 63.
For the longest time, he looked younger than he was, but then in the last two years,
he passed some sort of threshold where now he just looks really old.
Once you get to 60.
Yeah.
Like, I've noticed that.
I'm 49. I look a lot older now than I did five years ago.
Man, I still look so young and fresh, like, you wouldn't.
But I guess I'm only 45, so.
Ah, yeah.
Which AI chatbot could be prompted to praise Hitler and call for a second Holocaust in an update in July.
It's GROC.
It was grok.
It was crazy, huh?
Yeah, that is crazy.
All right, Kai Senat is a popular Twitter streamer who popularized the viral word including Riz.
What does Riz mean?
It's like charisma.
It's like a short form for saying like you've got like a lot of charisma or a lack of charisma.
Yeah.
I mean, I thought the whole point it was charisma.
So Riz has just come out of charisma.
That's what I thought as well.
Yeah.
Which of these guests has made the most appearances on Joe Rogan's shit podcast?
Oh, sorry, hit podcast.
Was it Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Elon Musk or Edward Snowden?
Elon Musk.
He's on it like all the time.
Not that I listen to it.
What do you think, Lulu?
Lulu.
Yeah, that's really interesting.
He agrees it is Elon Musk, yeah.
It's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
No way.
He's been on it five times.
Elon's only been on it.
Neil de Grassy High Tyson.
Yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
Elon Musk has only been on it three times.
Who knew?
Right.
Yeah.
And then there's a whole bunch of questions about a countdown of dead celebrities in
2024.
Right.
This is, as per Forbes, they died.
This is how much they made in 2024.
In 10th place, John Lennon made $17 million in 2024.
John Lennon, John Lennon's still making $17 million?
Yeah, how old would he be if he was still alive?
He was only like in his 40s when he died and that was in 80, 80, so he would be like he'd be like 80, 81 years old.
Ooh, close, 85.
Right, okay.
Matthew Perry at number nine, earned 18 million.
All just pretty much friends royalties.
Yeah.
What was the name of his character's annoying ex-girlfriend in the show, Friends?
Oh, what was her name, Janice?
It was Janice
Chandler
With the laugh
Yeah
Oh my God
Yeah
What cartoon did Charles
M. Schultz
Right, 30 million dollars he made
What's a product
He was the
He was the peanuts guy
What was the name of the hurricane?
Got put some easy ones in
What was the name of the hurricane
That recently struck Bob Mali
Who went 34 million dollars
His home country of Jamaica
What was the name of the hurricane?
It was Hurricane
Charlotte, Charmaine
Charlene
Uh-uh
I don't know
Clementine.
Move away from the letter C.
I think I'm thinking of the UK one, which was like, I think it was Charlotte or...
This started with an M.
Mandy.
No.
No.
Morgan.
Molly.
No.
Morton.
No.
Madison.
No.
Michael J. Fox.
No, it's a lady's name.
Oh, God.
Miranda.
Marjorie.
Melissa.
Yes.
Millie.
We've got there in the end.
You got it.
Thanks.
I'm sorry.
I still guessing. My lag is so ridiculous. I don't know what's happening.
How many people went to Elvis Presley's home, Graceland last year?
Oh, like, 5 million.
No, I can give you the numbers. It's a multiple choice.
600,000, 400,000, 200,000.
600,000. Wow.
It was 600,000. He made 50 million bucks from Beyond the Great.
Dr. Zeus made 75 million.
Yeah. Well, I mean, all of his stories are still widely available for purchase
for youngans and stuff?
And what is the food stuff that he,
Sam I Am, he tries to get Sam Iam to eat?
Green eggs and ham.
It's green eggs and ham.
Freddie Mercury takes silver with an income of $250 million in 2024.
Right.
Who played him in the biopic, Bohemian Raps?
Man, what is his name?
He's the guy that was in, not I-Robot.
What is it, I-Robot?
And he was also...
Mr. Robot.
Mr. Robot.
And I know the guy.
I know who he is.
I hate him.
He was also in, what else did I see him in?
He was in Oppenheimer for a little bit.
He was in Oppenheimer for a little bit.
He's been in a few other things.
I feel like his name is like M. Knight Shamalan, but I know it's not his name, but it's, it's kind of, you're kind of Shamanish, isn't it?
It's like, it's not quite as much Amalama Lama as Samalamalan.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't, I don't know his actual name.
It's Rami Malik.
That's it.
Rami Malik.
Oh, my God, he hates him so much.
Michael Jackson.
Why?
I thought he was pretty good in the Queen thing.
I like him.
That film was an abomination.
Oh, I thought it was all right, actually.
I didn't mind it.
I think he's a terrible actor, and I hate his stupid face, and I hate his bug eyes, and I hate
the way he speaks.
And his, I've revealed my hatred of Rami Malik many times.
My God, yeah, but I mean, it's really coming out.
He's terrible, terrible actor.
It's so close to Christmas as well.
You don't remember that thing he did about, this is when he was.
A shocking torrent of hate.
He peaked.
There was this moment
where Rami Mallet was like
just breaking out
and he did this thing
where he talked
about stuff he liked
I like long walks
on the beach
sunsets
you know,
it was like that
there was all the most
basic stuff
I like jiveling
with my mother
I like breathing air
I like
having enough food
and water
to sustain my body
I like music
it's like oh fucking
this is revelatory
mate
you like food music
and good weather
wow this guy
so deep
well if they interviewed me
I'd be even more boring than that, so I can't, I can't comment. I couldn't possibly comment. What would
you say? Give me your top five things. I wake up in the morning and I go downstairs and go on my
computer. I would just play my computer. I play games a lot. I play games. I'm gaming. And when I'm
not gaming, I'm thinking about gaming and then sometimes I eat or drinking between and then gaming again.
Sips. Sips. Sips. All I was asking was your top five things and you've given me a rundown of your day.
I just want, right, but that's not.
Your top five things can't just be a description.
Okay, number one, gaming.
Number two, thinking about gaming.
Number three, eating.
Number four, drinking and number five, sleeping.
Well, family not getting a look in there, but that's fine.
They just happen to be around.
They're there.
Number one, my wife.
My wife.
My wife.
My child.
My child.
Number three, my third child.
Number four, my first child.
Oh, wow.
Wait, you're ordering them?
My best friend.
You can't do that.
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All right, this is slang from around the English-speaking world.
So I will give you the word, and you give me the definition.
Right.
In Australian English, what's a goon bag?
Can we get a goon bag?
Trying to find a goon bag, bud.
I can say that.
I can say with almost 100% certainty that I don't know what the fuck that means at all.
I would say that was some sort of backpack.
It is not.
It's a bag of cheap wine.
You know boxed wine?
You get wine in a box.
It's like a bag in a box.
That's what a gang bag.
Yeah.
America is what's a binkie.
Oh my god, he dropped his binkie on the floor.
Isn't that like a, like a baby's blanket, like a toy?
Like, you know, like a...
It's a dummy or passive player.
Really?
What we called, in our family, they were called googos, because that's what my youngest called them.
A gooooo!
From Scott's English, what are messages.
Ah, Ken, you'll have to pop to the shop and pick up the messages.
Oh, is that?
The newspapers.
The mail?
The mail.
Louis?
Lewis?
I like them.
I like the mail.
No, it's got to be...
The Daily Mail.
The messages.
It's got to be...
You will not get it.
You will not get it.
It is bizarre.
Get the messages.
Go get me the messages.
I'll give you us 5P if you'll go get the messages.
Five p.
Oh, you'll get the money.
It's heroin.
It's groceries.
The messages.
The messages.
South African English, what does it mean if something is liquor?
That broad was did liquor, mate.
It was dead liquor.
LECA.
Unfair.
Dead lecker.
That's good.
Lecker is good.
It means tasty.
Or just great, awesome nice in general.
Now, fuck, that is the same exact word in Dutch.
It's so bad.
Oh my God.
On like posters and things like that.
Hello.
Yeah.
I can hear you.
Lecker ding is, it's really cool.
It's Dutch.
Indeed.
So lecker must be good.
Am I right?
Okay, thank God.
From Canadian English, what's a toek?
This is the easiest one ever.
It's like a warm hat that you wear in the winter.
It can cover your head and ears.
In Welsh English, what does it mean to be tamping?
It was tamping.
T-A-M-P-I-N-G.
Imagine if DAF came into the office.
Lewis wouldn't believe in me, I'm tamping.
Is it on their period?
No.
Is it like I'm angry?
It's furious, yes.
It means to be furious.
Oh, right.
For the Kiwis, what are Jandals?
J-A-L-S.
I fucking have no idea.
They're like outdoor sandals or whatever.
They're like the house sandals, right?
Irene, put the jandals out.
I've got twisted jandals, according to the dog.
They're flip-flops.
They're just flip-lops.
Oh, yeah, kind of works.
From Irish English, what does it mean to shift someone?
To kill them.
To kill them.
No, it means to kiss them.
Oh.
From Indian English, what does it mean to propone something?
Propone.
To kill someone.
No, hang on wait.
Propone.
Cover them in cheese.
No, it means to bring it forward.
It's the opposite.
of Postpone.
Pre-pone.
Oh.
Bring him free phone.
Bromé English, what's his snap?
Kill someone.
Oh, I forgot me snap.
Oh, let me snap at home.
We could believe it.
Is it a sandwich?
No, it's lunch.
It's lunch.
It could be a sandwich, but it's my lunch.
And let me lunch at home.
Leave me snap.
It always be snap.
It's the pop culture.
I fucking love that.
One team.
Taylor Swift's fiance, Travis Kelsey
play for in the NFL. Oh, are the Kansas
City Chiefs? It is,
that's right. Where did Oasis's
tour start in 2025
Tour? What was the city? It wasn't
Manchester. It was Nebworth.
Nope. It was London.
No. It was
Nottingham. No.
Birmingham. New York. No, it was
Cardiff. Cornwall.
Cardiff. Oh, Cardiff, of course.
Which American actress sued Justin
Baldoni for sexual harassment and intimidation?
Oh, that was
What's her face
She's got a really interesting name
I love this name
This cannot be her real name
Her name is
Eludes me at the moment
Let me just look it up
Is this her real name?
No, of course it's not
Her name is Blake Lively
That's it
Fuck I would be
You know I never would have guessed
I knew who it was
I just couldn't remember the name at all
Yeah
She was born Blake Elander Brown
Right
But her father
That's way
That's the opposite
They're lively.
You know what?
Why?
No, it's because she's related to James Brown, and he was a lively man.
That's where they got it from.
That's my James Brown.
What year did Stranger Things first come out?
Oh, the first one came out in like 2017?
Lulu?
It probably says it whatever you watch on Netflix.
I'm going to beg you for an answer every fucking time.
This is doing my note.
2016.
2015.
I asked a question.
has a guess and then there's like 10 seconds of static and then you come in and like oh what was the
question again oh blake lively shout your answer out man all right i'm not going to wait around
2016 correct arianna grand and cynthia reevo are promoting wicked part two but who plays the
wizard of os um oh don't know it's uh anthony hopkins it's jeff goldblum i was going to say that
the hell uh lady gaga gave a one-off free concert to two and a half million people yeah it was
Which is the record for a female artist.
Where was it?
Where was it?
Rio de Janeiro.
True, but where in Rio?
On the beach.
On the beach.
Rio de Janeiro beach.
The Goppa.
Copacabana.
The Rockaway Beach.
Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday, but how could you save, how much could you save
per person in the viral ad that sparked all these memes this summer?
The Jet 2 memes, how much is it in the ad that you can save per person?
No.
You've heard this meme a thousand.
I have no idea.
Save 20 quills.
Save 20 pounds.
It's 50 pounds.
50 pounds.
50 pounds.
Wow.
K-pop demon hunters became the most watched original Netflix title on its release,
racking up 325 million views.
I've never even heard of it.
What is the name of the demon slaying girl band in the film?
I can't remember it.
I only know that one song.
My daughter sings it all the time.
Hunter slash X.
Hunter slash X.
Yeah.
A Minecraft movie, if you guys don't get it.
get this, career over, was an unlikely hit of the years in Development Hill.
Hell, what is the name of the franchise's main character who's played by Jack Black and wields a
pickaxe?
Go on, Lewis.
Oh, sorry, I cut off.
Right, that's the end of the quiz.
Quiz is done.
No, that's it.
Quiz over.
He cut off.
Steve?
It was Steve.
Yes, it's Steve, correct.
Steve.
Steve?
Steve.
It's Steve.
Oh, my God.
Oh, what a fucking quiz.
Great quiz.
There were many, many more questions that I just skipped over.
I feel like I got a fair few of those right.
I think he did great.
Why did you skip over?
They were dog shit.
They were dog shit, boy.
Did you want the sports round?
No.
No, I didn't think so.
Oh, my God, no.
God, I hate a sports round.
I mean, all my sports knowledge is from the 90s.
Right.
And most of these people are dead and retired or both.
So, yeah, no, sports is no good for me.
Sports rounds no good
Yeah
Well I ain't got no lose news
Cause Sam says
There is no news this week
That's bullshit
There's been no news this week
Of all weeks
No suitable news this week
Yeah
Here we go
Reddit slash offbeat
Oh here you go
Funny slash sad news
Murderers
No they don't do sad news
Murderer sues
For right to evegemite
In Australian prison
Do you know what I watched
While I was away
And I enjoyed it
I did not enjoy the start of it
As much
but the rest of the movie I found
I found was fine.
It was that one with the...
Wait, let me guess.
Yeah.
It was a film involving someone
who starts with the name chuh.
No.
Charles Bronson.
No.
No, no Charles Bronson.
No, it doesn't start with chuh.
Okay.
That's the only clue I'm going to get.
It's a recent-ish movie.
Right.
And it has an all-star cast in it.
By whose metric?
Is it recent-ish?
I think it was in theaters maybe like a month or two ago.
It starts with a ch-oh.
No, it doesn't start with a show.
the ch.
Was it one battle after another?
It was one battle after another.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
What did you think about it?
I thought the start was awkwardly horny and I didn't care for it.
And then I think the movie just got a bit better after that and it was fine.
I see.
Yeah.
I didn't like the whole like, you know, the revolutionaries getting like insanely horny
after they do like a job.
Did you, did you watch it?
with your friends in Madrid.
Yeah, well, my friend put it on.
He was like, he just wanted to like, he just wanted to show me Sean Penn.
You know, the scene at the start.
Yeah, his character is so good in.
And he's got to like walk out of the, the trailer that he's in with a boner or whatever.
That's a great movie.
He just thought that the scene was like, was quite good.
And then we just ended up watching the whole thing because everybody was, it's like a typical sort of situation.
You know, everybody's like, where are we going?
What do you want to do?
What do you want to do?
What do you want to do? What do you want to do?
Everybody's just lazing around and then we just ended up watching a whole movie.
It was good.
Yeah, I don't know if I would have, I haven't watched any movies in probably a couple of years, actually, just through laziness and a lack of interest or whatever.
So I don't even know if I would have, you know, sought that one out, but I'm glad I saw it.
It was good.
I liked, there were parts of it that were really good.
I've watched so many movies over the last 49 years.
much more of a movie watcher than I love them.
Yeah, I watch a lot of TV shows.
I haven't really been watching any TV shows either.
I got a movie for you, weapons.
Did you see weapons?
I heard that that's really good.
No, I haven't seen it.
You should watch it.
You should watch it's really good though.
House of Dynamite.
No, I haven't even heard of that one.
Recommend it. Really good.
House of Dynamite.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah.
I went to see nobody too, which was not that great.
So, yeah, that's a Mamiboss movie, less we forget.
I like that.
The first one I saw, I think it was on film,
four one night and we ended up watching it and the fight scenes were very entertaining.
And so when nobody too was coming out, it was like, oh, we should go see it.
The first one was pretty fun.
But I think we were just like not in the same frame of mind or whatever, because we
had to see the second one.
It was just like, oh, it was all right.
The ending was just crazy.
I can't, I, I'm not aware of any of these movies.
I didn't, I'm not aware.
It's got nobody, it's got Bob Oden Kirk in it and he plays like that.
He's like a former hitman or something.
but he's just trying to live a normal life.
Some kind of ex-special forces guy, but he's, Bob Bowdenkirk's like 60.
I don't know.
He's still in pretty good shape for how old he is.
So he's 63.
Here's my problem that we're meant to believe, because Mike Tyson was one of the greatest
boxes of all time.
The dude got beaten up by a fucking streamer, okay?
This guys who are in their 60s, who are in their 60s, kicking these young
dude's assing.
I used to be really scared of Mike Tyson, but now that now maybe I have a chance, you know.
I'm a streamer.
We, why aren't young people beating each other up?
Why do we have to see an old man beat up young men?
And it's like, oh, man, he's such bad ass.
Yeah, that would totally happen.
This obsession with realism and gun porn these days, apparently Bob Odenkirk, who I love,
is able to play a guy who kicks the shit out of a bus load of young people because he's got skills.
The bus scene in the first movie was so good.
Man, it was.
But it's so dumb.
It is dumb, yeah.
But sometimes you need a little bit of dumb as well, you know.
I don't know.
I think this is porn for grumpy old people my age
who are fed up with young people
listening to music out loud on their phones on the bus.
That's all it is.
It's like, yeah, go and kick that young cunt's ass.
Oh, yeah, beat up that young person.
That's all they are.
It's just porn for old people.
I don't think so.
I think it's like, I think it's these films are vehicles
for actors that we like.
A bull golden Kirk is pretty lovable and loved, you know what I mean?
And everyone likes to see him do his thing.
It's very American as well to see
what they consider a nice American guy going around the world, just being a hero, hero complex.
It's, again, it's the same thing as Keanu doing 17 John Wick movies or whatever.
Do you mean, it's been 17 John Wick movies?
Well, it feels like it.
You know, John Wick 99.
I've only seen that part of the first one, I believe.
I should maybe watch those.
Are they good?
No.
I do like an action.
I like an action movie.
The first couple are right.
If you like an action movie, you'll like them.
They are bad.
I used to really like, I used to like the old 80s and 90s action movies as well.
Did you feel that there was a good guy and a bad guy in those movies?
What, John Wick?
No, in those classic action movies.
There was always like, yeah, like if you think of like die hard.
Right.
And there was always a bad guy.
It was sometimes it was the bad guy within as well, right?
Like wasn't, exactly.
Wasn't Commando like, didn't he was betrayed from within?
commando? No, in
Commando. Or is it Rambo that
he got betrayed from within?
Well, Rambo the police turned
on it because he was a veteran and it was about
veterans going home from war. So sometimes it
is the enemy within. But here's my question
to you, who's the bad guy in John Wick? I have
no idea. I've never watched a full John Wick
so I don't know. Right. I'm asking Lulu. Who's the
bad guy? I'd probably have to kill him at the end of everyone.
I thought it was like, I thought
it was like Eastern Europeans
generally in John Wick. Just in
general? I think that's reasonable to say.
the baddies are just...
From what I saw, it seemed like it was Russians.
Foreigners.
Yeah, well, it could be any kind of foreigner, right?
Yeah.
The point is that...
Yeah, it can be a Brit.
There's no semblance of sense to these movies.
There's like, the bad guy, the motivation for John Wick to do all this stuff,
and the first one was that they killed his dog.
That's right.
I remember that bit, yeah.
They broke into his house and they killed everybody.
They killed his dog, and that was sort of the big catalyst for him.
Silently, wordlessly, close-up, murdering, and finishing downed enemies.
He's just a murderer.
He's just a mass murderer.
That's the John Wick movies.
They're not action movies.
They're revenge porn movies.
There's no action.
That's what it is.
Yeah, it's a revenge movie.
It's awful.
That's the genre.
And it's based on a Korean genre that was really quite popular.
And I think that you, it is, I think there is some element of us that is fatigued.
And I feel this, for example, routinely.
And I think a lot of people do of, oh, you know, let's kill all the unnamed henchmen.
You know, let them capture the main bad guy.
and then keep him alive because he needs to do his prison time.
Do you mean he needs to be punished, right?
And then he breaks out of prison inevitably and then, you know,
they have this other, and he goes on to kill hundreds of more people and then, you know,
they get him again and they're like, oh, well, we can't kill him, you know,
because that's not allowed.
And it's always this moment, you know, in the movies where they have this moral section.
And so it is nice to see, I think, I think it's a response to that
that these kind of, a lot of these more modern things are much more final.
and capital rather than sort of the softball marvel solution to these things, you know.
I like the original Predator.
I like how he was with a group of people who all in their own right seemed unique enough.
And then one by one, they all get picked off throughout the movie.
And then he's just got to hide in the mud because he figures out,
Predator can see heat signatures with his visor or whatever.
I think that's what happened
It's been a long time
I feel like this is almost a trope though
It is a bit of a trope
So I read this book
called
Dajal and I read the whole series
And I really enjoyed it
And I told you about it Pflakes
And we talked
I recommended it here
And you didn't like it
And that's fine
Anyway, I went on to like
A few other sort of recommended series
Within that and check them all out
And one is very very popular
It's called He Who Fights with Monsters
Right
It's a very popular
series
and and it's too, I think it wants to, when he wrote it, the guy basically kept in the back
of his mind, just all of the content that he'd ingested and he wrote it with the idea that
it was hopefully going to be a movie one day or a TV one day. And so as a result, you know,
he's hunting down this bad guy who's got all these henchmen and he does this classic thing
of like, I don't know, he's in a city with like crime lords and there's no incentive him
to hunt down crime lords. He's hunting down.
you know,
monsters and other people.
You know,
he's this incredibly moral guy
who won't even like,
you know,
he's,
and then,
but he's forced to kill some,
some certain people,
but he'll keep these people alive,
who he knows,
like,
it's so frustrating.
And like,
every time I was just reading this book,
I was hoping that at some point,
these guys would get their come up.
And so maybe,
maybe they do eventually or whatever,
but it's,
it's like,
it was just deeply,
deeply unsatisfying.
And I found myself thinking,
I wish that this guy,
it may be almost want to write my own version,
of it, you know, because I was talking about that on a previous podcast of how, like,
I'm so dissatisfied with this experience that I've had. I almost would like, but I don't know
why it's so prevalent. Maybe it's just to fit into that young adult thing of like, but it does,
it does seem like weirdly, I know with political on the podcast, but with all this rise of right
wing and they're very kind of old school. They're very Southern American in there. Well, let's
get the death penalty on this guy.
You know, and there's this, like, I just, I just, I feel like I'm, I'm more into like
the renegade vigilante kind of actually getting, at least they get stuff done.
Are you talking about Jack, Richard?
Are you promoting vigilanteism?
It does sound like, it sounds terrible.
You can't give it to, they get the job done.
Yeah.
They do get the job done.
You maniac.
I think I'm so frustrated with reading or watching these contrived situations.
where
where you mean
like dungeon
crawler Carl
where they build up
the bad guy
the most contrived
situation
imagine
obviously when you're
writing a story
you have to
contrive a situation
right
you have to build
a upper
up a bad guy
in order to knock
him down
you know
Geoffrey has to do
all these
terrible things
in Game of Thrones
in order to get
his come up
and eventually
and then
and it being
satisfying right
you have to have
an evil
a really
terrifying
evil figure
in all
and you have to
have to have
the journey
of a hero
is to have this slope downwards
until they are at rock bottom.
You know, they are in, you know,
they're locked up in a basement
with their fingers being cut off.
Do you know, I mean,
it's like you have to put the hero
in the worst possible situation
in order for them to climb out of it.
And that's where these,
that's where these critically acclaimed stories come from.
It is when they see the extremes, right?
When you have some absolutely, you know,
how can they possibly get out of this situation
versus this monster who seems to have everything?
And, you know,
and is lording over them.
And, you know, eventually David conquers Goliath and, you know, and you feel satisfied
about it.
But I feel like David conquering Goliath only to put him in prison or not even get punished,
only for Goliath to come and put David back in the same situation again and again
is, to me, deeply insulting when I'm forced to watch that or experience that.
Do you see what I'm saying?
So, like, the first time the X-Men,
When I captured Magneto, you don't think he should have been in that big prison, the magnets
or whatever.
No, and I think in some cases it's because TV shows have their cast or their bad guy and
they want to keep him around, right?
And they like him and the audience responses to him and they want more of him and they
have more plans for him.
You know, supervillains often are as big a character as the superheroes, right?
They can't, like with the John Wick movies, you know, I'm pretty sure that the bad guy's
get knocked off in each one, and they have to make up new ones.
And I think there's some element of joy in that to seeing the bad guys get punished for
their actions.
If you don't establish the bad guy as competent and as scary and as evil, and give the good
guy a good reason to stop them, you don't have a good story.
And that's my problem with these films, like John Witt.
I don't agree with the debt.
We've talked about this before.
I don't really agree with like capital punishment and death penalty generally.
And I think the reason for that is that it's misused so much, like, and so much, so many people.
The only time I agree with it is for those fucking people who are sitting behind you in the plane and they get up and they try to get ahead of you for like, and you're like, there's a system here where people just let the people in front of them go.
I don't know what makes you so special that you can skip like five seats and get ahead of me.
Like, for me, it's a similar frame.
in front of me for another hour in passport.
Similar vein, there's roadworks ahead and we all have to merge.
People not letting people merge because they're petty or people taking the piss
and zooming all the way down so they can merge at the last second.
Let's get rid of those people.
Being difficult and just no one letting them in and then now you have a problem.
People driving late tickets.
I want to say in this situation as well, and I know I'll probably get a bit of flack for this,
but, man, you guys on your motorcycles are fucking unbelievable sometimes.
Like, did you not fucking read the same highway code as I did like all those years ago?
Why are you, why are you swerving in and out of traffic and trying to get ahead all the time?
Like, you know.
Yours was the Canadian one.
It's insane.
It's so dangerous too.
Like, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to have blood on my hands because somebody's just trying to shave two seconds off a journey
by swerving in between cars and stuff.
So, sorry, just to finish my point, I think that when it comes to a movie, we are presented
with this scenario where we, the audience, have seen this person commit these crimes, and so
they are guilty, right, in our minds, in our heads.
And it's not one of these situations where, you know, someone, there's no evidence or
some poor guy's being pulled off the street and, you know, and given the death penalty.
and it's very vague or, you know, it feels like, you know, it's not a sure thing.
Certainly, you know, a lot of people, we, Pyrium, this is one of the things you said,
because a lot of people, you know, end up getting exonerated after they've been put to death.
You know, I think that there are problems with it in reality, but this isn't reality.
This is fiction.
And I think it's very, it's, I think, I'm a fan of capital punishment in fiction.
Okay.
Wow, okay.
So, I mean, the issue, the issue for me with capital punishment is that even if we feel like
There are definitely some crimes out there where you think, why are we allowing this person to live?
They've inflicted so much misery.
They probably do deserve death.
The idea that they get to live out their life and be cared for and paid for by the taxpayer.
I get it.
People are very angry about that.
But do you want to give the government the right to decide when citizens die?
I think is my biggest.
I think, again, I think that's an overreach.
It's a different experience.
That's a little bit of an overreach.
Oh, we're going to kill this guys.
I don't know, dude.
I don't want to trust that.
We are in a funny, in fiction, we are in a funny headspace, right?
We play video games where we kill thousands of people a day.
I never kill in video games.
What I do, I play all the games where you get to talk to them.
Yeah, you just chat to them.
Full motion video, my choices matter.
Those are the ones for me.
Any Marvel movie where kids are watching superheroes fly around,
the people die in left-right sense.
They never die.
They always come back somewhere.
You just have to chat to some Korean girls around a pool.
That's the kind of game.
Well, okay, that's the future.
Even soaps, they come back.
You think they're dead, but you can never be sure.
Like, look at Dirty Den.
Dirty Den, nasty Nick.
Everyone was sure that Dirty Den was dead.
Wait, nasty Nick.
Am I thinking of the right guy?
I thought it was nasty Nick.
You'll think nasty Nick is from Big Brother, yeah.
No, Nick Cotton was nasty Nick, wouldn't they?
No, nasty Nick.
Oh, nasty Nick.
Oh, my, Mom, Ma, I'm back.
And he'd take her poor old, what was her name, Dora, Dots, money.
Nasty Nick is like a Donald Trump nickname for like someone.
They call him nasty Nick.
He's not a good guy.
Terrible reporter.
Terrible.
Really terrible at his job.
A terrible person.
Terrible reporter.
Rousy guy.
Quiet piggy.
Quiet piggy.
Oh, that is.
That's outrageous.
That's really got my back up.
It's fucking outrageous.
That is not insane.
It is actually insane.
But at least the world we live in is on.
Yeah.
But if we're.
We need to balance things out.
So Hunter Biden's laptop.
And thanks so much for listening.
And we will see you next time.
Oh, thank you.
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