Triforce! - Triforce! #140: HAM Radio Chat

Episode Date: August 27, 2020

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Good afternoon. Hi. Wherever you are. Yo. To the Triforce podcast. Oh, welcome back. Sips. Sips, how are you? you oh i just farted sorry did you hear that no i wonder if the mic would have picked that up it was huge i actually had trouble sleeping last night i was like so full of gas you know like you know when you uncomfortably roll over and you can feel like a trapped fart and you're like man i really need to fart but i'm so tired i'm just going back to bed sort of thing and then you leave it and leave it and leave it because you're you're sleeping wake up

in the morning and it's just like this tremendous pressure for you to really let one go so i usually wait for my kids to come into the room and then that's that's my greeting what did you have for dinner then with all this gas um what did i have for dinner i had a light dinner yesterday i just had a bowl of cereal. It was just like, it was a late one, you know, everybody had already eaten and stuff. So, it's just like, whatever, I'll just have some cereal, I guess. That's it. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe I didn't eat enough. It might have been that, but also I find that I'm sort of getting lactose intolerant now.

Like I can't eat a huge amount of cheese or milk or I get really bad farts and bad poops. So I have tea in my milk, I don't eat cereal and I don't have porridge or anything like that. So I don't really have much milk but if I eat like a really ripe brie or something, that's it. I'm off to the races, it's no good. So I wonder if as we get older, I know we have spoken about this before. I think at this point it's safe to say we've spoken about everything. There's not one topic that we haven't covered. Well, I've got one for you. We're old.

We've covered them all. I actually have three things. Oh, the indigestion. Oh, can I just mention, by the way, before we start off on that topic, Sivs, I was listening to the Adam Buxton podcast. Yeah. Big fan of Adam Buxton. Always have been. Yes. And I follow, I always listen to that Adam Buxton podcast. I'm a big fan of Adam Buxton, always happy to be on his show. And I follow, I always listen to the Adam and Joe, because he's friends

with Louis Theroux as well. Yeah, there's some nice crossovers with Louis Theroux. Yeah, and I listened to the Louis Theroux grounded podcast while lockdown was on, it was all right. Yeah, I think they're all pretty, some of the guests he has are pretty uninteresting, but he's pretty interesting. The one with Chris O'Dowd is very good. There was a Malcolm Gladwell one that was amazing. interesting but he's pretty interesting yeah the one with chris o'dowd is very good um and there was yeah there was a malcolm gladwell one that was amazing the john robson one i also recommend

adam buxton oh sorry yeah grounded so anyway there was some good grounded some good adam buxton but he did he had adam and joe on at christmas i hadn't listened to this episode and joe he just left in this fart that yes that's right it was like a really sort of wet, gross fart, wasn't it? It was like a brrrr. Yeah. And he had so many people who were like upset. They were like, I had to turn the podcast off. I was like retching. And I must just be, these people must never fart because I think some people never fart. I am like a fart like expert machine. I fart all the time.

I think it's because I've had long problems with food intolerances. I'm just a fragile, fairy, weakling. And as a result, I've always had like just, I'm such a special mummy, special boy, sitting on the edge of the swimming pool because I've got an ear infection. All this stuff, right um throughout my whole life so you did mean fairy as like the fey creature that lives in the forest well i'm always about but at the same time i'm always i've always been a skinny kind of like elven nerdy i would not i would not sort of have you down as elvin but um i think you're

bigging yourself up a little bit more than you should be here it but um i think you feel like you're bigging yourself up a little bit more than you should be here it's fine i think of it more as the goblins that work in saruman's pit making the uruk-hai that's very kind of you i'll take that uh i that sounds nice well actually so so i but just to say i always find farts and i've kind of i've had this psychology and mentality that farts are always funny right like and it's it's always because it's a natural bodily process and you can't help it i find they come out like the weird like it can ruin a moment if you're not careful like and so you just have to find it funny not not not like well it's inducing but i think it's a decision you can make too sometimes, right? Sure.

Sure, I think a certain really wet, sloppy fart is a bit like, oh, God, I'm gross. I didn't think Joesel was that bad to warrant this sort of audience backlash and this big apology that seemed to come after it. I think where I win is that my farts generally, I mean, I'm not saying all the time because some slip through the net but for the most part my farts are not wet and sloppy farts they're like clown horn farts you know they just yeah they sound like a duck or something you know they're very clean a little

they have a very sort of funny trumpet sound to them and everybody loves them you know i'm known i'm known in certain circles for being that funny farting guy you know i turn up and here i go it's like breakout like it's like i'm like fucking louis armstrong when i start farting it's just like you know i'm playing the playing the fucking trumpet there you know i kind of hope this week we wouldn't just talk about farts i i don't know why i had such high hopes i've been at sips's house right no and i think he has either let one rip or i've let one rip and everyone has just like yeah it's i don't know it's like it's a good time i have a problem i just when something happens i just talk about it and i farted and that that was enough to get me on the subject

and now we're never getting off of it yeah it, it's been 15 minutes of fart talk already. I'm just, you know, I thought we were better than this lads. I had hoped we were better. We understand. We found our fertile middle ground. Yeah, this is it. This is our bread and butter. Let me tell you, we were saying we don't talk about new stuff. I have three things that I found out this week or that occurred to me this week. And actually a fourth if we want to go into it. And I'm just going to...

Blimey. It's just a start for a conversation. So is this because you're on your own this week? No, Mrs. F is working from home. Right. And she has been since the start of lockdown. But the kids are away. The kids are away.

They're at my mum's for two weeks. Holy crap. Yeah, it's great. There's no washing up. The kids are away. They're at my mum's for two weeks. Holy crap. Yeah, it's great. And we just said that there's no washing up. You've got time to think. There's loads of time. Two weeks. You've got like wonderful air and just the space around you

and your mind is expanding into this space. Jesus Christ. And we're having stuff for dinner that they never eat. Just simple stuff, like a stir fry. We haven't had a stir fry in years because neither of them will eat a stir fry. How to stir fry. It's like this is amazing. You know, like they they don't necessarily like that a source that you have on it. I can't remember what kind of source it was. It wasn't like a satay sauce. Mrs. F chose it was nice.

It was kind of light. It was it was it was very, very nice. On the first day, the Monday that they go on. We got Thai food in they don't really like Thai food. So, yeah. You're on holiday. Literally on holiday. We went to Costco. We just bought loads of Prosecco and stuff.

It was like, let's just have a really relaxing two weeks. And it's been very nice so far. Fuck me. One of the things that I was reading about, do you remember? You probably won't. A man called David Kang, name won't ring a bell. This was in Australiaralia in 1994 fired fired two shots from a starting pistol at prince charles on a visit to australia i don't remember hearing about this he he fired a shot at him from a crowd then he ran up onto the stage

where prince charles was talking fired another shot and then was bundled on by security forces so it was a starting pistol he was doing it to protest the treatment of Cambodians in Australia at the time. And he was sentenced to, I think he went to prison for some various things. But anyway, he got out with 500 hours of community service and stuff like that, which kind of surprised me. He's now a barrister, practicing law australia perfectly stand-up regular guy and he was like it was very depressed it was a long time ago and everything like that but isn't that interesting to think that a guy who shot at the prince of wales with a starting pistol fair enough but it could have been a gun he a he might have been shot dead by security forces on the spot if he was unluckier yeah but second of all then now he's like a respected barrister i just thought

that was such a strange turnaround people can people can change and people can get better i'm not sure i agree with that honestly i think um i think you think he was scum and now he's a barrister scum yeah he just took on a scummy career i think there's not changed there's clearly something in him that will cause him to do very irrational things and i think that that will stay with him for his whole life i think i think people um that you see day to day um people in the media people in power and stuff like that are mental and they are able to hide it well but deep down they're crazy and should not be forgiven in most cases for the shit that they do yeah that's uh sips's case for criminal reform there well i think maybe in some cases like but i think that that i think that that shows crazy to become a politician for sure well you do but i think to to do something like that shows that you got to be crazy to become a politician, for sure. Well, you do. But I think to do something like that shows that you have to be a bit crazy.

Crazier than somebody who shoplifts, for example. But it was for a good cause, though. I mean, he was doing it because he thought that the East Cambodian was a protest. I can appreciate that, but there's different ways of going about things. What would you suggest he might have done? Not that, for a starter. Because he had already written up... Anything that wouldn't land you in jail.

He wrote a bunch of letters. Another one would be good. He protested previously. I'm not condoning what he did. But the fact is, I don't think Prince Charles is in any danger. Because it is a starting pistol. Like, it's not going to kill him. And I don't think it's even gonna kill him and right i don't

think it's even unless you put it up against his eye i mean it sounds like you're defending it a little bit but no i'm just saying there are definitely there are definitely worse crimes it wasn't just a prank he was trying to draw attention to the plight of something and it was a form of protest now i condemn I condemn what he did. He absolutely deserved to be punished for it. I don't necessarily think locking him up for 20 years would have done anything. And if you look at it, he has now turned his life around. He may be an exception. You might be able to say, oh, he's still crazy. But I don't know. I think if we don't take into account people's mental state at the time that things happen, what we're saying is that people are born.

They're the same until they die. And anything that they do along the way, regardless of circumstances, is on them. I don't think a lot of people go through their life with the intent on growing and changing and developing and stuff. I think some people do, for sure. Some people reach enlightenment, but the vast majority of people do not. You have a very dim view of humanity. I do. Yeah. No, I think, I think, I think a lot of people don't intend to change, but I think they do change. I think people change dramatically. Even in a five year. Circumstance changes you more than your intent yeah you know like you

don't set out to be like i don't think i don't think people have the capability in the in most cases to realize the gravity of some of the things that they do and then and then put in work to make changes some people do yeah but i'm very cynical when uh that that everybody can do that or has the capacity to do that. Because I think we've proven time and time and time again that that is not the case. I don't know if we have proven that that's not the case. I think we've proven that there are definitely people out there who are crazy and deserve to be locked up. And are just straight up dangerous. There's no doubt about that.

But I think that we have definitely not proven that people can't change or that the vast majority can't change because we just haven't been attempting to like we've just been locking people up for a long time saying it's not it it's not something that if we had if we knew that you know like 100 years before this happened right there was another australian who shot at another prince. They hanged him. They hanged that guy. Yeah, and they hanged him, right?

And obviously he actually shot him with a real gun and wounded him. And it was the 1868, so a different time. He was the second son of Queen Victoria. It was a different time, yeah. And so, yeah, like, obviously in those days, they didn't think that these... Obviously that was was a different time. Yeah. And so, yeah, like obviously in those days, they didn't think that these, obviously that was a very different crime. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a political protest. The fact is that, you know, when it was a political protest, it wasn't, it wasn't, um, wasn't, it wasn't even a political protest, I guess it was

just an assassination, but it, it, it, if you, you could imagine someone getting into a situation where they've, they've done humanitarian work, done humanitarian work, they've seen the plight of these Cambodians, and they're like, well, look, something has to be done. I've done all I can. I'm very frustrated. I'm going to have to do something extreme because, you know, my life is worth less than these people. And even if I'm put in prison, you know, at least it'll draw attention to these people and they'll get some help you know and so you can see why people would take this relatively sounds like actually a selfless action when you frame it like that it sounds like something they did a very brave heroic action yeah that you shouldn't be sentenced to jail for or hanged for you know or even you know be judged to be crazy for, you know, especially when you, when you look at it like that, when these people could very easily have been part of a group that believe that what they're doing is right. And all of their reasons are justified. And they, you know,

that, that is sure that you can look back at it through, you know, 20 years and say, well, okay, I was a different person. Then this is how I got to that situation. Would I do it again? Probably not. You know, what were the reasons I did it valid? Probably, you know, it's an interesting thing that happened, but it happens again and again, all the time, every day with people doing actions that seem crazy, but actually are in their mind relatively justified. Sure. But the impact that has on another person doing something like that is, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think, you know, whatever time he did for what he did was, I'm sure, fine. I think, you know, whatever, if he's reformed himself or changed and he's doing well now, good for him. I'm not saying condemn him to death or anything.

I'm just saying, skeptically, it's very rare that people change. And I think that whatever drove him to do that is probably still in there somewhere. And he would probably do something stupid like that again potentially that's what i'm saying yeah i i would i would food for thought food for thought i would avoid him personally okay so if you've ever got into legal trouble you're not gonna get him as your barrister no i will pick someone else i think yeah just just just to be safe you know top topic number two that was a good talking point.

Yeah, thank you. That got the blood going. It did, right? Holy shit, man. We almost fell out. I almost went into a rage there. Holy crap. Someone almost shot someone with a starting pistol.

All right. Topic number two. Complete change of subject. Because we were just bored and wanted something to watch, I watched the film Skys skyscraper a 2018 film have you have you heard of this film nope it's got no i haven't it's got dwayne the rock johnson in oh okay maybe i have heard he's like one of the biggest actors now right like he makes a ton of money from it's insane acting yeah literally and um as a as a box office hit yeah yeah he's huge he is huge yeah so i i don't know

why i i like him he seems a likable guy he's certainly got charisma on screen he does i love him he's sort of like the term jabroni really when you think about it but he's also he could also because he's huge he's sort of like arnie for the the 2020s of the the this era everybody loves him yeah he just seems to be a lovable guy. He's fucking huge. And he can kind of do the clowny stuff. Although I think he's a better actor than Arnie was, to be quite honest with you, by quite a chalk. He's very good in Jumanji, for example, which my kids love the Jumanji movies, right? They love them. So this movie is a fucking piece of garbage though. All right. I mean, Arnie had a couple of stinkers, too, to be real here.

However. For all of his good movies, there are about five stinkers hidden under the floorboards. Jingle all the way. Forget about it. It's very difficult for you to, when you're an actor, I'm sure, to really know whether a movie is going to stink it up that bad or whether it's just going to be your agent's like, well well you're not doing anything for the next six months this movie's okay yeah i mean it's like it's like brand deals for us right when we do good money we do sponsored

things or brand deals and stuff some are great and some are just kind of not great but you don't know until you do them right i guess it's the same with movies it's about doing the work oh you know what this might turn out okay and then you know you, it just turns into a massive steaming pile of garbage. This was vaguely a remake of Die Hard. Okay. Which, first of all, I have an issue with that. It's directed by a guy called, and this is a name, Rawson Marshall Thurber, which is a heck of a name.

Yeah. No idea who this guy is. That's such an American name. He's from California. So his other films include Dodgeball, A True Underdog Story. He directed and wrote that. That was Rawson Marshall Thurber. Not too bad.

Right? Then a movie called Mysteries of Pittsburgh, which I've never heard of. No. Then We're the Millers, never heard of. Okay. Then he did Central intelligence with the rock skyscraper with the rock and now he's doing red notice with the rock both all three of those big budget action movies which is weird given that dodgeball was the first film he made but whatever

so skyscraper was a joint production with um universal pictures and legendary pictures okay so legendary pictures is that big Chinese production company like Tencent. They make a shitload of movies. Right. This is what these American filmmakers are doing. They'll inject and insert Chinese characters and Chinese actors and Chinese settings into these films just to try to appeal to that vast market. So there's no reason for Skyscraper to be set in China. There's really none.

It's just, you know, why not? We'll set it somewhere. How about China? We'll have a bunch of Cantonese speaking people in the film. And so it's got, it's partially subtitled because they're speaking Cantonese, but it's got all these little things in it that you know, you just know they've put in there to appeal to the Chinese market because they want their money desperately. Like they desperately want to break into the Chinese market because it's so huge so for example if you watch the film the martian with matt damon with matt damon i like is that the one where he uses his poop to grow plants on mars exactly the one i love that one i thought that was a great one it was fun right now if you watch there is a scene in that where their rocket blows up the resupply rocket they're going to send to mars

blows up they're like well we haven't got a rocket now and then it cuts to china and we have these characters uh talking about how all the americans are going to need a rocket it's a good thing we've got one standing by if only our governments could get to get together and work it out then uh we might be able to make this happen one of them goes well luckily we're scientists so we don't have to worry about that so the the chinese gracefully and graciously lend their rocket to the Americans. They're like, use this, our noble American friends. And I was like, this would never fucking happen in a million years. Don't bullshit us.

Don't insert Chinese characters in just because part of the money came from China. They want to try and get some Chinese audiences to come watch the movie. So apparently it works. Budget for Skyscraper, which was abysmal, $130 million, took $300 million at the box office, right? Despite the fact that most people have probably never fucking heard of it. I guarantee you a ton of that money came from China. I think it's so cynical.

$132 million in two weeks was China. I have a question for people who invest in movies. What are you doing? $130 million? We could have Dude Simaska off the ground already with that kind of money come on i know it could be i know is dude sim alaska gonna make 300 million at the box office is my easy easy oh there is a there is an appetite for dude sim alaska out there let me tell you i've seen dozens of people saying that they would play this game and that's like in

my small corner of the world. I just thought it was so strange that this film is awful. There's no plot for quite a lot of it. Well, here's the thing. It's not, though. It's vanilla ice cream. It's the same movie that's been made. It's Die Hard.

It's the same movie that was made before. And then before Die Hard, it was another movie. And before that, it was another movie that was generic. How do you guys feel about that? Do you feel that they should redo these for the new generation? Or do you think that the new generation should watch the originals? Look how much money this made. It works.

It's relatively inoffensive. Got big name actors. They've been inclusive and had China. It's just a generic plot where everyone can get on with. Do you over that's gonna be cracker jokes you think when like zoomers become older like in their 30s or whatever they're gonna look back and be like oh fuck i love skyscraper man you remember that remember every christmas they used to put skyscraper on and we used to watch it oh fuck that is the best action

flick i can think of and then we're all thinking like what the fuck i actually grew up with like fucking die hard and like lethal weapon and shit like that right you know and it's just i don't think they will because the the the thing with die hard is it had people still talk about die hard now it's amazing everybody knows amazing right yeah because it's a very good movie that's when it takes us down the test of time it's not that it's like there are some films that we're nostalgic about and shows that we're nostalgic about they're obviously crap there were also things that just just were good and they they stand the test of time there are plenty of movies from my parents era that i still watch and think yes this is still good and there were a lot of awful shit ones as well some some no one's gonna

look at this in 30 years time be like oh man let man, let's put Skyscraper on again. I love that movie because there's nothing to it. There's no standout lines or moments. They might be in China though. They didn't have a Yippee-ki-yay Mr. Falcon or anything like that? Nothing, nothing. Yippee-ki-yay Mr. Falcon. Trying to censor myself a little bit. I don't want to swear too much.

It was an homage to Die Hard if you'd only heard about the plot of Die Hard and hadn't actually watched it. That's the best way I can put it. I think that we're bringing up new generations of people who it's been long enough with Star Wars 2 and with Die Hard that the generation has moved on and the next generation has come through and don't want to watch black and white movies.

They don't want to watch movies from the 90s and they don't want to watch the old Star Wars. They don't want to watch the old Die Hard. They want to watch the new one. I feel like they should watch those old ones. And they want to watch movies from the 90s and they don't want to watch the old star wars they don't want to watch the old diamond they watch the new one like they should and they want to see it in a modern day the old ones are good honestly i think you're being unfair to young people i maybe i am being unfair but but i i don't know like i always i remember like an old sci-fi idea that once we've made enough really good movies and enough really good tv shows and enough really good books you could put someone on like a trip like a like a like a spaceship to a different galaxy and for their whole life they'd never be bored you know they there's always a good movie

for them to watch every day or something good there's we've made enough content you need more than that it's like of a certain standard. As humans, we don't need it to be any better. I mean, it's just an idea. I don't think we're realistically, yes, human beings are not meant to watch telly for a hundred years. Yeah, you need to touch the earth and you need to also interact with other humans as well.

Yeah, exactly. Hopefully in a reasonable way and not with a prank gun. But there's this idea that we'd eventually have, I guess there's so much stuff that's, everything we have though is built on previous stuff. And also often copies or similar or borrows things from other things that were good

or tries to be successful by ripping off, if not ripping off, borrowing stuff. It's like, well, you know, this video game is a little bit of Assassin's Creed and a bit of Prison Architect and a little bit of this and a little bit of that. And, you know, you can, and movies are the same.

We know even this movie is clearly, you know, we're saying it's a cliched version of Die Hard. Fair enough. Like, but like, I feel like there's only so many things you can do and still be appealing to that sort of family values excuse me for a second here bitch um are you having a dig at dudesim alaska because the whole idea behind dudesim alaska is to take a bunch of ideas and combine them into one big idea which i thought was a great idea i think you're being a little delicate and sensitive about your baby

um i don't think lewis was hinting at that at all okay good well no but is that it's what you you try to say you're cherry picking the best ideas because a lot of people think they're doing some of the most successful games uh are that wow is that, basically, right? It's just wow is just a game of other games, but polished up. I think that's the nature of a lot of entertainment. It feels like we started off at the birth of video games with a very rough rock that was still fun. And we're gradually chipping off bits, keeping aspects of the rock that we like. I suppose I'm thinking of rocks because I'm looking at a picture of Dwayne,

the rock Johnson on my screen. Speaking of the rock, listen, sorry to take us off topic, but I have made a discovery this week. And my discovery is that the world that we live on is beautiful. And if you're too lazy to leave your house to experience it, get the new flight simulator because holy crap, it looks great. You can see some sights you've never seen before. I flew over Alcatraz yesterday, okay?

And then I did a stunt fly underneath the Golden Gate Bridge, which had an invisible wall under it, which caused my propeller to stop working, and I crashed. But I had a really good time. I saw the clip as well. Right over the rock, yeah. We were doing a tour. I've got a challenge for you.

I also saw P-Flex crash into the Shard. Yes, I saw that as well. It looked like a really terrible act of terrorism. Yes, that was. I couldn't fly the plane anymore. I was going bored bored he only got 500 hours of community service for that one because amazing he was trying to make a point he'd been a pilot for about two hours you're like i couldn't be asked to fly this plane anymore i

had grown bored i i did manage to take off here's a challenge for you sips on the runway at the southampton airport that you can take off from. Try and get a 747 off the ground on that airport. It took me about half an hour. I was able to do it. It is possible. It's a very short runway. You might clip a few things on the takeoff, but it is possible. Give it a go. Okay. I'll try. I flew along Bournemouth beach. I didn't know the South coast as well as I thought I did. Cause I was like, Oh, is this Bournemouth? And everyone was like, no, I think that's Christ church. And then I was like, where the hell are we? I was looking for the pier, Bournemouth pier, Boscombe pier. They're not on the map. Like they're just not

there. And for some reason that that exact point, the, the Google map satellite view is there's a huge line running along the South coast. It obviously is like, yeah, at one point and then at another and the fields, half a field is grown. Half a field is, is obviously a fallow. And I was like, oh man. And I got kind of lost and none of the buildings look anything like what they should look like. So the thing with Microsoft flight simulator, the new one is that it uses the, this clever technology to read through all of its map data, satellite map data, right?

Yeah. And then the AI basically renders out what it thinks everything should look like. Yeah. But obviously, it doesn't get it 100% right. So what they then have to do sometimes is they have to go back through parts of the map. They almost have to cordon off a part of the map to say

don't update this because we need to add some custom assets in right so like if you go to rome if you go to like tokyo there's some really big cities where you can tell they've added so like custom buildings in because the ai would just render them as like a 1990s office block from slough like buckingham palace which happened to buckingham palace yeah so i think that i think their team just need to sort of um get around to some of these places because some of them just aren't done because that was the other reason i crashed into the shard yeah i'm flying along the london eye doesn't exist yeah it's it's a patch of white on the on the ground and i thought well at least we'll see St. Paul's. St. Paul's was completely flat.

There was nothing. Well, yeah, they just haven't done London. So Buckingham Palace is like a block of flat. London happens to be one of the most important cities throughout history. One of the oldest. You can say what you like about London. We're here to stay. We matter.

London matters. I don't know if you're supposed to fly over it though fuck yeah you i'll tell you what though new york city looks great they've done a really good job let's look after new york city what about london motherfuckers well they didn't do london but um they did add a whole bunch of uh points of interest in the state of florida for places like um you know some town with like 500 people in it and stuff like that yeah it pisses me off well i mean it's just i think it's just unfortunate that they probably had an idea of the kind of things they wanted to get ready for launch but obviously not

everything is done and i'm sure that they're going to be updating it or whatever i don't work for microsoft or anything by the way i'm not like i'm just saying people who do it's a great game so far 500 hours of community service i agree i agree so there there are there are parts of the game that feel like i went to norway yesterday which is beautiful um in the game probably in real life it is beautiful but there's like some major height mapping issues where there's like these like fucking it almost looks like these like little volcanoes coming with like the texture bleeding off the side and stuff. I think they just got to go through and fix some of that stuff, but it's not too good.

It's not too bad. I mean, but, but holy crap, what a game. It is fucking nuts. It's, it is,

it's just like, I'm not too interested in the, in the actual flight sim part, you know, like I, I just have it on like assisted. I, I,

I like flying around, but I don't, I don't want to like get, you know like i i just have it on like assisted i i like flying around but i don't i don't want to like get you know nerdy with like the controls and having to flick every switch and stuff like i just want to take off interesting around use the drone and look around like i i basically i i treat it like a like a like a more interactive google earth or something like that you know what i mean that is interesting because i had a comment in my chat yesterday that said that you had called me a big noob when it came to flying yeah i'm not using assist motherfucker i'm flying that thing i'm raw dog in that shit good for you man i'm doing that i'm doing you know what i didn't even say that so you you need to check your sources

like you can't just believe everything that chat says to you it's true it's true i never said that because i got bigger fish to fry flax all. Fucking right. That's what I thought. I thought you're not going to be like, what do you care about how I'm doing in flight sim? I don't punch down, Flax. I don't punch down. I punch up. Fuck you. How about this? Fuck you. Stay in your fucking garage, you farting bastard. Jesus Christ.

I've been to fucking Norway. I've seen it with my own eyes. You're flying over in a flight-assisted flight sim. We're in a pandemic where I can't travel right now. This is the best I can do, with my own eyes. You're flying over in a flight-assisted flight sim. I'm wrong about that shit. Well, I can't travel right now. This is the best I can do, okay? Jeez. Listen up, right?

I did want to fly. Can you fly over Everest? I did want to do that. But I thought, I don't want to get there. I don't want to get there, and they haven't fucking hyped that. So the popular places that everybody wants you to fly to, if you play this game, if you stream this game to an audience. No, no.

This is the top three okay okay number one north korea everybody is obsessed with it for some reason but apparently it's super underwhelming it's just like it's just like uh sparse and there's just not much there or whatever okay number two area 51 everybody wants to fly around area 51 for some reason um and then number three tied at number three is fly over mount everest but also chernobyl which i did yesterday that was kind of cool actually did you see it yeah but it's not um it's it's it's got the same sort of issues that london has in that you can't see the big shield that they've right um it's it's just got like i think some of the satellite data is older um pripyat looks cool it's actually the ai rendering it does look like abandoned and overgrown and stuff which is pretty

neat um but the actual like site of the power plant is not it's not updated here's my concern is that they're gonna go through and texture all this shit but they're gonna charge you another fucking 50 quid or whatever well to get the textures i'm not sure though i think they they charge you for new planes and like skins for planes and shit like that that's part of the dlc um that the old flight sim had locations and stuff i'm not sure i think you can get i think there are asset packs that are community created as well that you can get that would be nice because i would i would actually quite enjoy flying over it if i was like yes this is actually what it looks like i realize that's a lot of work no no but there are they don't yeah they don't bring out flights in every year so this is going to be here this is going to be around for a decade at least

like the technology is insane like it is very pretty it is yeah and the fact that you can just on the fly change the time of day add clouds add weather and shit like that is like oh my god what i want is what i want to have is scenarios like the the you know when you have to land on the hudson yes like that i want that kind of again i think that kind of stuff will probably be dlc you know like like scripted sort of stuff like challenges and shit like that i'm i'm i'm guessing that that'll come bundled in packs of dlc did you get in trouble with the air traffic control because i i didn't realize that when they give you a message you have to go yep receive that so they were like

they tell me something like all right you're clear of the airspace i flew right back i took off a heathrow and flew right back over the runway and they were straight on the radio please don't do that and i was like okay and then they were like clear the airspace and everything and they're like all right you're clear from the air traffic control tower we're handing off now and they're like a minute part did you get that oh sorry yeah sorry yeah this is uh cactus 37842 uh yeah received yeah you go in the ai settings and you can get the ai to just take over comms and stuff well they're gonna bring out multiplayer so you can do it with a friend as a co-pilot. Me and Mark are going to do that. That's going to be fucking hilarious.

That's interesting. Here's another topic to talk about. Hang on, before we go, I'd love to know if anyone in the audience has the answer to this, because it's something that's always interested me. I love Google Maps, and I sometimes find myself just looking around.

Just find yourself googling you just say you're just just googling away sometimes before you know it you're like i wonder where that is and you go there and you're like oh there's a little town called honeydew or whatever in california and you look in there and you zoom in and you see some people's farms and stuff or or you i don't know you look at something and you zoom in you're like oh that's a weird grid and you zoom in you realize it's just farms and you're like oh damn where am i right northern canada or somewhere? Like, fuck, there's loads of farms.

I wonder what they're farming. I wish there was, like, a way that you could, or sometimes you see weird stuff, like, on there. You see, like, some weird circle, some weird shape, or some weird lake, or some weird holes. I have no fucking idea what, like, some of this stuff is and why it's like that or what it is. And I wish there was some

sort of interesting like explanation or wikipedia or reddit or something where people talk about stuff they found on on google maps oh i guarantee there's a community somewhere google maps has that built in doesn't it you can sometimes people can uh can like tag parts of the world with pictures and they link off to Wikipedia articles and stuff like that? Sometimes, but not always. No, but I mean, if you're looking for like a fucking hole in the middle of a forest that nobody's ever been to, then yeah, sure. But if you go to places that are more or less well-traveled,

you'll find lots of information. I've got something for you to fly over, Sips information like i got something for you to fly over sips i got something for you to fly over i would like you to fly over the diarvik diamond mine in uh in the northwest territory yeah we've talked about this right okay we have in the northwest territories yeah it's going to be quite a flight no i mean i need to go up that way anyway because i need to do i need to look um i need to survey alaska to find out where dudes in alaska is going to take place so okay that's a great idea my plan was to take off from anchorage and just survey the land find a good spot to pitch up um and uh carve out and have the ai uh create the game space for the player uh right well i would recommend it while you're up there i know it's away but have

a little look at the d'Arvick Diamond Mine. Because I flew over there on my way to LA one time. And it was mind-boggling. And I recommend checking it out. I'd be intrigued to see if they've actually rendered it. I doubt it, but it would be interesting to see. Well, some places that they have rendered, which you wouldn't maybe think that they had,

considering they haven't even done buckingham palace or most of london uh i flew to uh mont saint michel yesterday the north coast of france very beautiful yeah that's all that has all been um uh done they've uh they've done it and it looks really cool when you fly how they're doing that in our saint paul's unbelievable i don't know it's weird because i think when you look on the map um and you see like the little blue pin drop thing and it's like a point of interest i think those are the ones that they've done pretty much so like if if the game directs you to a location it's more or less because it's done and then you'll notice like around london that nothing is right you don't get any

michelle is really yeah most of michelle is amazing yeah all right so there is a thing that you can do on the internet called web sdr okay and it's a basically you go onto this website and it's got radio um receivers all over the world that have a little website and you can go to there on the web and tune and listen to the local radio stations, which sounds incredibly nerdy and weird, but I like to do it just to see what's going on. Like I'll go, there's tons of them, all over the fucking world.

And one of the things that happens is when you're tuning around, sometimes you'll find some lads on a ham radio having a chat. It's quite weird because they tend to be middle-aged guys. They tend to have jobs where they're on their own a lot and they've got their ham radio going and they're just having these quite sad conversations. And I kind of thought that's like the Triforce podcast

before the internet was just three blokes talking, but they'd had no idea if anyone was listening in. Here's me listening in on this web interface, listening to them talk. All right, Pete, I understand you had to take the car in to be repaired. Oh yeah, it cost me i think it was 80 pounds hold on i'll get the receipt it was 90 pounds unbelievable look at

that well you have a good evening then and then they'll sort of have a chat and these these what these two guys i was listening to what's wrong with it they're good what's wrong with the car it doesn't matter that part of the conversation i didn't hear near taunton because if you bring it into uh to this garage well my mate joe do it do it cheap what's wrong with it then there'll be like a one minute pause sorry sorry dan i was getting a cup of tea what's that what about radio etiquette though i thought they were supposed to like say copy and uh over and all that uh large march this is uh peewee herman uh copy like they i thought they had to have all the the radio stuff i think that's only if you if there's going to be other people on the frequency oh that would be that would be the etiquette but these guys are literally ham radio and they just

like they have a frequency that it's almost like having a whatsapp group yeah it's like a bulletin board service or something so it's like you just go on there and say and these guys leave their ham radio on all the time on that frequency ready and their mates know what frequency so it's like a chat room you know it's literally like you drop in on that frequency and you say all right having a walkie talkie yeah dan you're there it's pete a minute goes fast all right pete yeah dan here how's it going you know it's it's like that it was just it was quite sweet and a little sad i thought it was quite like it's like he's underneath the car and he has to like weed himself out and you know go over to it take the gloves off exactly but these two guys they

were trying to say goodbye and it was like he'd say the one of the guy would go like well it's getting late now dan i'm gonna call it a night i've got to get up early tomorrow all right i'll see you tomorrow mate yeah bye dan i'll see you tomorrow mate you know that reminds me do you remember last august and then that will go into conversation that lasts another couple minutes the other guy's desperately trying to get off the line the other guy's just not getting it i was like just change the frequency dude just pretend some transistor blew up and just go like you're breaking up there dan oh i'm losing the signal like just go to bed but he was so polite he wouldn't end it it was just bizarre i i sometimes get a text from someone right like late at night is it me and it's me isn't it no not usually no

but why get a whatsapp message right and it'll be like a question something important i don't know something something important and i'll see like a notification for it that doesn't come up as me having read it you see right so usually the notification is like enough to make me realize that i don't want to you don't want to handle this now, right? Yes. Or even reply to it. So I just pretend that I have, obviously I don't open WhatsApp and read it because then it would show that it had been read. So I just let them think it hasn't been read and that I've gone to bed.

Sneaky, very sneaky. But what you're doing is you're WhatsAppping all of your bitches from different area codes all night long. And they are none the wiser. Exactly. That's how he sips it on to me. I'm sure everyone else does that as well. It's not just me. No, I don't.

I'm perfect. I try not to take stress. I try not to check my emails after about nine o'clock at night as well. Because it's not always going to be something to worry about. I never get any check my emails after about nine o'clock at night as well. Because, you know, it's not always going to be something to worry about. I never get any. So it's not a problem for me. I rarely,

people rarely make contact with me. I don't know what it is. Maybe I'm an asshole or... There's always people... Unappealing. Some sort of problem. Some people have always fallen out over something or someone's got a problem with something.

It's always usually a trivial or an easy explanation. But it's just certain people who are like, you know, and I'm just like, sometimes I just don't want to join them in the worrying about it. I don't know, after like a certain amount of time. Yeah. It's weird. That's what happens when you're the boss, though.

It can be quite stressful. You know what you need to do, Lewis? You don't want to read at midnight and you're like up until 3 a.m worrying about it's like you need to insulate yourself right you need to that's why you have to have a hierarchy yeah below you so that you only talk to one person and that one person can be trusted to filter out all the nonsense right that's why they have you know like a corporate structure for example the ceo doesn't want to have to talk to like the the tea lady you know she has to talk to her superior who then talks to his superior who then talks to her superior who is then the right hand man of the ceo so do you think one of the do you think one of the reasons people don't message you sips is

uh that as you you know stated earlier you're a big deal and so people seem same with lewis i think uh although because he works in an office people feel they can approach him because you work alone uh people are maybe intimidated to contact you and they think i don't want to i don't want to bother him i think they think this guy is like that guy from lost with the eyepatch. He's a bit of a lone wolf. He's a bit dangerous. I'm not too sure how to handle him. So they just think, I'm just going to stay away.

But actually, I'm a young, lovable, huggable type of guy. But they just never take the time to get to know me like that. The gruff exterior that you present. The gruff exterior puts them off. If they could get past that, they'd find a heart of gold. That's right. But then also, I don't want them to find that side of it because the news will spread like wildfire and all of a sudden i'm gonna be like some you know mother you'll be snowed in yeah everybody's

gonna be wanting a piece of me because you know i'm like this like really really nice decent guy but you know i need to i need to make sure that nobody finds that out about me. So that's why I act like a gigantic prick. I think that's how bosses and owners maintain not being bothered by day-to-day shit. Yeah. By just someone comes in with some day-to-day shit. Get your head off your goddamn shelf. What am I paying you for for johnson you know it's like yeah if you give them shit about about a few things they won't they'll handle everything else and you can be like

i don't have to worry about profits exactly that's not my you gotta make your life easier right you got you you gotta you gotta cut down the amount of you need some interaction but there's there's such a thing as too much interaction you know what i mean i do somebody's coming into your office when you're in the middle of doing like a huge deal uh and they're like oh you know there's a drop of urine on the toilet or something you just think well not my problem that's not my problem you know you know what you know what my uh my favorite headphones broke yesterday just as I finished playing Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Only one ear was working. They went from stereo to stereo. Did you? I heard that you rage quit out of Flight Simulator. No, I was just bored. Oh, right. I was just bored. And I mean, I crashed into the shot.

I was like, I was annoyed that they hadn't rendered London properly because that was the one thing I really wanted to fly over was london yeah and uh and bournemouth and i was like those are the two things that i really everybody wants to fly over the place that they live currently and then the places they used to live right bournemouth i understood like that's a small town it's not a big deal they'll get to it eventually right but london to not even bother with that that pissed me off so i was like if i can't even fly over the city I've lived in most of my life, what's the point? So I just thought, I can't be bothered. And the height mapping thing, I kind of thought they haven't, they haven't, they're not there yet.

I'll try it in a year or so and it'll be much better. It's early days. Yeah, it'll be much better for sure. But as soon as I turned the game off, my headphones stopped working. Only one ear was working. The left ear was working. My beloved Biodynamic DT990 Pro headphones, which i've had for a few years best headphones i've ever owned and i thought it must be a software thing fucking microsoft typical it wasn't it was a hardware

thing they chose that exact moment to die which kind of tainted my opinion of the game because all i can think of is that i had to buy another another pair i'm using my old headphones which are super uncomfortable and uh yeah so it kind of affected my enjoyment of the game because all i can think of is that i had to buy another another pair i'm using my old headphones which are super uncomfortable and uh yeah so it kind of affected my enjoyment of the game somewhat unfairly but that them's the break sometimes guys i have uh some big news actually which i should have shared at the start of the podcast but i was too busy talking about farting and getting carried away uh about that story about the protesting pistol man i've just been i've just been reading a wikipedia article about lost for the last 20 minutes right after you mentioned it go on go on sims i got a new car oh what yeah i picked it up yesterday it's not it's not brand

new it's used but it's almost new electric 20 no no no oh you said you're gonna get electric we're not there yet we're not there yet technology isn't there it's like vr helmets it's not quite there it's not the right time for for my family to get an electric car we still want to get one on jersey we're gonna get an electric car we've got big plans we're gonna get an electric car we're gonna get solar panels on our roof we're going we're going to go the whole nine yards but 2020 is not the year that we're going to be doing okay yeah okay we're deferring we're going to we're going to delay the plans a bit because there's other plans afoot so we've had to settle in the meantime for a 2015 reno scenic what's it like beautiful it's fucking nice it's really nice it feels like um it feels a lot

newer than my old car which was 2015 renault scenic uh 2001 it's a real dad car oh it's a family car yeah it is yeah it's a dad car it is a dad car but it's got all it's got it's got air conditioning that works which is great what was your old car then if it didn't have air conditioning it's a 2001 um renault scenic which did have air conditioning it just didn't work ah it was it was broken yeah your old car was a piece of shit sips it really was yeah we finally got rid of it it was it was on the on the brink of death so we had to we had to act fast it was really hanging on by its fingertips the thing is like i get quite attached to my cars. I don't know though, Sips' car was like a fucking shit apocalypse pickup car that you used to transport you from a house to a gas station and you abandoned it.

I'm not kidding, that was my first car and I loved it. I loved it. Yeah, I liked it as well. I liked my car too, but it was time to move on. All things must pass, right? Don't be sad. It was time for the car. That like everything all things must pass right and don't be sad time for the car thing was shit i hated it yeah cars you'll love the new one cars you will love the new one okay have you ever the new one has the new one has a computer in it it's got like fucking built-in tom-tom uh satellite navigation which i don't need over here uh it has i was i drove it this morning i had to go run an errand, get into the car.

Drive an errand, I guess. The car picked up my phone on Bluetooth. Okay. This is new to me. Hello, Chris. And I was able to listen to- Welcome to the car. Welcome to the car.

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This is new for me. This is new for me. It's exciting when you have this stuff. I remember that I've got a Qashqai guy at the moment it has all these features you're mentioning and i love them all they're great yeah but it's all old technology because it's not a new car but it feels so exciting to have that when your previous car didn't have any of those fucking things it was a real old banger right with nothing like. Most of the windows didn't even work. We had these electric sunroofs and they were jammed.

They didn't even work. It was just the worst. Everything was just breaking down. I had a CR-V, which was a Honda CR-V, a great car. They're really, really good. But yeah, it just had a CD player. It had no... It was like in order to get um your phone to play music

through the car we had to buy it looks like a cassette tape with a cord on a cassette tape thing with a with a usb lead right and plug that in and that had to plug into the cigarette um uh lighter the the socket for that via a special adapter so you had like this mass of wires just to make music come out of the car one of the speakers didn't work so the music only came out of my side and it was all these little things you just get by it's like you just learn to put up with your your car's foibles and the things that it's not great at and that's why i think that people we we do imbue our car with personality we do love them because they do their fucking job they may not do it flashy style but when you get in your car and you turn the turn the key and it starts and it takes

you where you want to go it's you love it it's reliable and dependable and it is yeah there's nothing better than a really reliable car that never lets you down yeah well that my old car felt like that and but the new car i think is going to be pretty good too we like it so far it's nice if they can do it's got some nice nice features that we're not used to that we're really excited about like we took the kids to to feed the ducks yesterday because my wife wanted to like test out the car right because she needs to drive it um too and she you know she was just like it's new i'm not used to it or whatever let's just go for a drive it's like okay so we went for a drive and um the it's got like built-in um you know like uh sun sun guard things like into the windows right that sort of like you just draw them down yeah yeah yeah they roll down into the door and stuff

so my kids were like playing with that with that like they had all these buttons the back it's not a toy well yeah i was saying that a lot as well it was getting kind of annoying because we just got the car i know and i you know i just we've had the car for an hour and it's already trashed like what's going on i was getting so pissed i knew it i was getting so pissed off i'm not gonna be able to tell any difference from the old car when i get there it's already because because we went to go feed the ducks it was all muddy so like the fucking floor of the car is already plastered in like dried up mud and rocks and stuff well i'd like to say to everyone listening to this while driving give you give your cars dashboard a little pat yeah say thank you if you've got a name for the car say it i i have i've had names for all of my

cars uh just give them a little pat and say thanks. As soon as you name something, it starts to have a life of its own. It does. This is how we're going to have the machines rise up against us, P-Flex. No. This is how it starts. We don't do that with our car and stuff like that,

but we do that with our pets. It's like a family thing. That's weird. The big thing now is that we forgot to tell terry that we got a new car and he's on vacation right now he's at my in-laws i have to go pick him up on friday so my kids and my wife are worried that he's gonna be mad because we didn't tell him we got a new car and i have to go pick him up in the new car and bring him back right so like it it's just like this funny thing, right?

Like they almost like, they build them up to be like a person sort of, like to give him a personality that he may or may not have sort of thing. So you're treating your pets even higher than your car. Well, which, yeah, rightfully so, I think. What's the name of your car? I think we should name it now. Or maybe the audience should. I didn't, I haven't named my car.

You can't just come up with one. has to it's a developing thing yeah like my first car the the vw golf he was the red baron because he was not it's like it's like it's like a little nickname that pops up yeah but it's not developing it's like it's like a spur of the moment it's part of the personality one time i ran over a carrot so you know it's carrot crusher it's like i think when you know it's yeah so you call it carrot crusher it's like i think when you name your car something and you give it like uh you hype it up to have like this like interesting lore and backstory and stuff it turns into one of those situations kind of like ratty and the nonce from uh afterlife you know like it to to to the inner circle uh involved it means something and to everybody else they're just like

what the fuck like yeah like oh yeah let's get the red baron oh oh yeah yeah the red baron and then everybody else is like there's like lore that comes attached yeah yeah yeah it's like it's hard to explain but you know it's like you like you and your gang sort of like big something up but nobody else has any context for it sort of thing that's part of the attachment i like that i like that that's good fucking red baron oh man he was he was a he was a fucking handful he gave me gave me problems get that get that fucking handful on the road he broke down on me multiple times bless him yeah it was very old it was a 1986 Golf that had spent 20 years in, over 20 years, in a lady's shed.

She was from Jersey. We have definitely spoken about this before. We have, yeah. Jesus. And she just had it in her garage. It had a lot of mold on it. Right. A lot of it didn't work.

But the tape deck worked, and it went fairly fast. And it was a Golf, which is fun to drive. It was an automatic it was everything was given a new lease of life yeah I like took him out before you know I took him out he'd been out to pasture for such a long time took the red Baron out and he he did make some pretty big drives but he did die but we replaced him with Sven, a Saab 9-3. Best car I ever owned. Fantastic. Wonderful car. Loved Sven, but he died as well. Sold him to a lad.

What kind of features did that one have? What do you mean he died? Did you put him down? Did you drive him off a cliff? No, no, no. Did he have a heart attack and die surrounded by his family? It had very good climate control. It had a multi-CD changer.

It was like a 6-CD changer or something, which at the time, you know, I didn't have an iPod or anything. I think climate control is incredible. Oh, it was great. It was so cool in that car. It was all leather interior. Incredibly fast car. Incredibly fast. Very nice.

Beautiful. So he died because every time it went over a speed bump, it creaked. And the mechanic was like, what's happened here is the chassis of the car is actually cracked and that creaking is the the car actually giving up and dying and it's like such a big structural problem you're gonna have to have it put down so i was like okay so we we had sven scrapped how much longer does he have no that was literally my question he was like he could go at any time i was like seven six or seven months at the most. Oh, God. I was driving through Shepherd's Bush, and Sven just conked out in the middle of a crossroads. Wouldn't come back on.

Had to wait a second. Immobilizer had gone on him. He came back to life, luckily. It could have been really bad. It could have been worse. What if it was like at a train crossing that he conked out, and you had to evacuate, and then the train came by, couldn't stop, and smashed the shit out of him. would have been horrible so we scrapped him and i traded him part

of the part of the trade was i got a honda accord uh from this guy it was like a honda accord estate and that was the green machine because this thing had like 150 000 miles on it stank of oil because the guy's brother had used it to transport car parts up and down the motorway for years this thing was incredible we drove to luxembourg the day after i got this car and the exhaust fell off halfway there like the exhaust literally split and when that happens the car still runs but the noise it makes is unbelievable because the muffler's gone like the bit that baffles it sounds like a silencer on the end of a gun when that's gone it just goes so we're driving through these really quiet luxembourgish towns and people are turning their heads like oh what's this sports car coming around the corner this thing's so loud

and there comes this beaten up old honda accord like that it was amazing so yeah he lasted a while and then we got the crv um e honda named after the street fighter character and uh he was very good and now we're on erica she's the cash guy she's fantastic so yes what what year is your cash guy i rented a cash guy at one time and they were it was pretty nice it's a really nice wow this is a this is a very ham radio chat you guys are fucking engaged but i guarantee you that there will be people out there who are nodding along with this because when you own a car and love it you never forget everyone's got stories and attachments to their cars a very special thing that people own it's true if only i owned a really good car one day p flex people keep saying i own a reno scenic well

i was when i was saying about electric cars not being like big enough for like a family car, everybody's like, when you get the Tesla or something, something or other, it's like, well,

man, those are brand new and expensive. Like, I didn't want a brand new expensive car. Like, I'm fine just getting a used,

like, I'm not really into cars, you know, like, how many miles do you do a year do you think? Oh, I don't know.

Like, I have no clue. How big's Jersey? Like everything's been in half an hour. Right. I do like 2,000 to 3,000 miles a year, which is nothing. Like that's the, when the insurance company says, how many miles do you do a year?

And I tell them 2,000 or 3,000. It's like, oh, like the category for that is like zero to 5,000. It's like, fuck all. Like there's a category for that. I don't drive my car very often but when we do it's like to go on holiday or something like that so it's got sure it's got a nice a nice thing about it you drive down to bristol once a year more than that i i would have i would have come down already this year but i would have but uh you guys had this coronavirus the fucking uh my

fucking hippopotamus was on fire somebody Somebody has to fucking extinguish it. I just couldn't make it, all right? All right, that's enough podcast. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you next week. Goodbye. Goodbye.