Triforce! - Triforce! #16: Hungry Hungry Tanks

Episode Date: July 13, 2016

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Please play responsibly. Hi, everybody. Hi everybody, welcome back to the Tri-Fizzle Pod-Kizzle. We're back. It's me, Pyrene Flax, and Lewis. We made it, again, for the third week in a row. We did it. We're really consistent. We're on a schedule.

Much like pooping, right? Like We're on a schedule. Much like pooping, right? Like you poop on a schedule. We record this podcast on a schedule too. Unfortunately, it clashes with our poop schedule. I know. It's an uncomfortable sesh. Well, I've got an adult diaper, so I'm good. Nice.

Yeah. What brand? It's weird. It's weird, like the whole concept of an adult diaper, though, right? Because adults, you know, like, a diaper works on a baby because babies' poops are liquid because all they do is drink milk, right? But, like, an adult's poop is not always liquid. Sometimes it's a big log.

And that must be awkward when, you know, you just poop in a diaper and you just got this huge bulge sticking out the back. Not to mention uncomfortable. Really uncomfortable. Yeah. Like if you sat down with that in there, like would it just try to like go back up your ass? You get used to it. Just smudge like all over your cheeks or what?

I don't know. Retempting re-entry. Yeah. I have no idea I don't really want to get to the point in my life where I find out either actually like I don't know like if I ever get to the point in my life where I have to wear adult diapers someone

just fucking kill me you have my permission like I don't even think that's considered murder like if you see me walking down the street and there's a big bulge in my around my ass and i'm wearing an adult diaper just fucking kill me hit me with your car or whatever like just just end end me and you have my permission yeah that's exactly it i listened to a podcast a couple years ago uh i did not murder this man he was willing he was willing to be killed by me.

He'd shit himself and he's wearing an adult diaper. Case closed. Give this man a medal, not a sentence. This guy needs an iron cross. He's done the whole world a service by taking out this pants pooping man. Do you want to put it on a gravestone as well? Yeah. He died.

Had a good life until he shit his pants as an adult then he died oh fuck yeah so what have you guys been up to this week anything fun um do you know what because we've recorded this for three weeks in a row we haven't really done anything in the last week me and pflex have played a game of civ 5 which was like doing a in 5k run or something it was like an endurance marathon it's like very exhausting it was hardcore every morning really yeah yeah because it was um we're playing the no quitters mod right and so there are some differences and we originally started off with this dynamic turn timer right so it starts off and the turns are fairly short and we're whipping through it. And then he suddenly hit this era and the turns are like three minutes long.

And if you're having a really good game, it takes forever because you've got a lot to manage. If you're having a bad game, you're probably tabbed out and doing something else. So it's like, can you win your turn? Oh, yeah, sorry. But this like a minute has passed and we had the same old technical problems that there always are with multiplayer Civ V. So, yeah, a lot of the time, we were just waiting for the turn times to end,

and then, in between sessions, we went back and changed it so that the turn timer was, like, a minute or something like that, or 50 seconds, which was nowhere near enough time. So we're just, like, going, oh, shit, I've got so much to do, and the turns are, like, accelerating. It was crazy. It've got so much to do. And the turns are like accelerating.

It was, it was crazy. It was just so, and it was a really, really good game. Low tap, definitely one of the best games of Civ V, I can remember.

There seemed to be something happening constantly. It's good because we've gotten a bit better. We've got our meta in, you know, and we had the game and it was me and Ben and Duncan and Pflex, and we're all fairly competitive now. And so we play at like a decent level. And Shin was in there and he's a little bit of a wild card.

And Cath was in there as well. He's sort of an unknown quantity as well because he's not really played with us before. And so it was just a very stressful game at all stages. Everyone had to turn up early because it takes ages. You had to get everything set up. And then Civ V civ 5 so poorly coded it took us about an hour to connect it's just so tedious and we finally get in and we have to like battle with lag and diplomacy and actually do the battles because everyone's it towards it gets towards the end there's this

sort of scrab scrabble around because everyone thinks oh this guy's slightly ahead this guy's slightly ahead we have to there's like three or four people scrabbling for because everyone thinks, oh, this guy's slightly ahead, this guy's slightly ahead. We have to, there's like three or four people scrabbling for like trying to come out on the top of this pile because, you know, you don't want to, you know, you want to get other people to warm and grind themselves down but not let yourself get ground down too much by that process.

Right. So it ends up people switch sides and backstabs all the time. It was great. It was great. Oh, it's so tiring though. Yeah, it sounds fun. Civ 5, I like enough.

I mean, I should join you guys again at some point, but at this point, because you guys have been playing so much and I was only in like the first couple of games, I feel like a lot of you are just so much better at the game now that I'm just going to be completely useless. Like I was already useless to begin with, but even more so now, like I'd have to like power game in my

spare time. Well, here's the thing though. So what we would really like to do is put together a game, which we're going to do in a couple of weeks, which is going to be noobs only. So it's going to be, um, all the people who want to play, but aren't hot, like Caff, Mark Humes, he plays a bit. Tom's not too very good at it. Shin's still pretty bad at it, so he's all right. But most of these people, there's a lot of people who, and Trott and Smith, the people who couldn't really, maybe couldn't get into our, or didn't want to play with the stressful game. Yeah, yeah.

So you could always join that if you're up for it but again like you know we're all busy we've got things to do you're going away all of Christmas pretty much all of Christmas all of summer

aren't you I think of it like Christmas because it is your Christmas go to TI isn't it Pflex that hasn't been announced yeah but will it be well you're hoping to go to TI

I am hoping so nothing's been announced but I am hopeful that I'll be going. And the problem is you generally don't find out until very close to the time. So no talent's been announced. Nobody knows for sure if they're going. You can only sort of live in hope. So, yeah, I mean, it's like two weeks away. Last time, last year, I was out there for like five weeks.

I was in the States. When will I know? Hopefully in the next two or three weeks, I'll get it confirmed. Yeah, because last year when you went, you went to Florida after, right? Yeah, I did. And you were staying at 1259 Mulberry Lane in Orlando. Postal code is K19327. And the phone number of the place that you're at was of course

555-9293 and you were staying with a guy named Billy Bathgate and you had a really good time there didn't you it was really good you were gone for like 6 weeks I was gone for ages I went out there for TI

the group stage and then the main event. And then I had three weeks. There was like a 10-day gap, and I was going to drive across America. That was my plan, because I'd never done it on my own. Yeah, I was just going to hire a car. You can pick up a car in Seattle. And my dad lives in Florida.

So not Orlando, by the way. I was going to drive to Florida, where my dad lives. And he said, don't do it. For dad lives and he said don't do it for the love of god don't do it and i said it's what for seattle to um to florida yeah you were going to drive that yeah yeah yeah i would have taken you like a week yeah yeah i mean that's the thing i had 10 days like the thing is i was meeting mrs f and the kids in florida like i was going to pick them up from the airport and everything like that but that wasn't for 10 days so i literally had a 10 day road trip exactly so you're going to go on a big road trip. Exactly. So I thought I'll go on a little road trip. I'll drive across America. I'll see all

the sites. I've never been in the middle bit. I've been to Texas, California. I've been to Seattle, obviously. And I've been to Florida and New York and New England. I've been all around there and stuff, and Pennsylvania and stuff, but I hadn't been in the middle. i'd never even really flown over the middle so i had no idea i don't think anyone likes the middle though that's the thing it's really fucking boring like the midwest you've got like places like fargo and denver and like who fucking cares nobody wants to go to those places well that's probably why your dad did you favor no he did he'd done that he'd done the drive i don't know i think your dad sounds like a kill. No, he did. Don't drive through those places. He'd done that. He'd done the drive from Florida. I don't know.

I think your dad sounds like a killjoy. I'd like to do it. It sounds good. People do it all the time. It does sound good, doesn't it? But think about this. I then flew from Seattle to Florida, which takes me neatly, directly in line across where I would have driven.

Oh, so you just look down the whole time. You're like, yeah. I feel like I've done it now. This is fine. I feel like I've been there. I was like, I just- I'm just joking about- It's fucking flat as shit that's all it is is super super flat and farmy and i just thought jesus this would have been boring because it's literally there's a road yeah and i've been flying for half an hour and i'm still over that road and it's just perfectly straight and there's

nothing i'm thinking this might seem fun at first but fuck me you can't you can't do it on your own and i think you have to have someone to take the shift. You do. You have to have a group of guys and throw a mattress off a hotel roof and kill a prostitute and stuff like that. Otherwise, it's not worth doing. That has to be an adventure. Just before we stray off this one, if you're from Fargo or Denver and you're listening to this right now and you're really angry, please, no hate. I just said it as a joke, okay? I don't have anything against Fargo or Denver I'm sure that they're really nice

places and actually the whole middle part of the USA is probably really nice why did you just message me private message me on steam saying fuck Fargo fuck Denver why did you do that why are you saying that and then he's full of shit you just you just steam messaged me fuck fargo yeah this is exactly like a profile to fuck fargo this is awful sebs i i said politics though this apology is bullshit he's playing he's playing the political game people of fargo i come to you today to present to you evidence that indeed a man thinks your town is shit but that movie was good though i like the movie was and the tv series as well i haven't watched that everyone said it was loosely based on real things that have happened but not at all actually apparently it's all fiction

so yeah it is that was weird actually uh the whole this is based the following is based on a true story and that completely changed my take on the movie completely because i was like oh my god how did i never hear about this and then they were like yeah we were just lying i mean it's yeah i just thought it was like wow that's that's weird it's really interesting the way that played with the audience i was thinking holy shit this is real well i mean i'm somebody who never goes off and and double checks things to see like if they're real or whatever so i was happy enough to go on the assumption that it was a true story and told everyone i knew i was like can you believe that's a true story like that's crazy yeah and then a couple of people were like well hey listen it's not actually a true story i was like

you fucking shut up you shut your mouth no i'm just joking well there was a whole thing around this was next i remember there was that urban legend about the the japanese lady who went to believe fargo was real and went to look for the money and died of hypothermia well looking for for the money is that not true well it was it was it well it was a story wasn't it because it was made into a couple of films um based on that sort of urban legend one film but i mean i think the real story the real truth of it behind it is that she had actually been it was a woman who was very very depressed and decided to come to minneapolis because it was a place she'd previously visited with her lover who was a married american businessman oh and uh she decided to commit suicide there apparently all right so got drunk

and and died but yeah everyone thought that she was it sort of formed this urban legend that she was looking for the Fargo money of course that wasn't that was fictional but that was the thing about Fargo it opened up with the line this is a true story

I think this is a true story that very clearly isn't yeah I know it isn't true it isn't very clearly isn't um yeah no it is it isn't true it isn't very clearly though because that's kind of believable it's not like it's not so far fetched is it like i don't think it's like too far fetched but it's it's clever it's a good movie and good story and stuff anyway yeah and the tv shows are good i like what's his face in it um you know the guy martin Frodo Frodo Baggins yeah

or is he Bilbo I can't remember he's looking for the ring can't remember he's Bilbo he's looking for love in all the wrong places in all the wrong rings

I think wasn't that the tagline for Leisure Suit Larry it was yeah yeah looking for love in all the wrong places that was my dad's shape up or slip out favorite series of games

for such a long time Leisure Suit Larry in the land of lounge lizards yeah what was there was a couple of passionate patty remember passionate patty i played all those yeah me too the shit out of those games it was so bad but god they were really really bad yeah it's like the golden age of adventure gaming yeah you actually had to type shit in as well like pick up condom yeah i don't know what a condom is larry or there was just some stupid ass joke like why would you ever need one of those larry ha ha you're never gonna have sex in this game that's the one joke we're gonna drag it out we're gonna make sure we make that one every time you do something do you remember the uh the the piracy the anti not the

anti-piracy thing it was the the age uh verification at the start of that game yeah was it it would ask you it had a quiz that only grown-ups would know the answers to like yeah who was the vice president when so and so was the president how big was john denver's boil on his ass cheek and just stuff like that but what we did was i mean it was multiple choice so all you had to do was yeah write down the questions and the answers and then just guess the answer right down the right one beat it ingenuity yeah it was really good they were great games that was the those were the sierra adventure games back when when sierra made games and didn't just happen to sierra? I think they're still a publisher.

I think they still publish some games, but I don't think they have a thriving adventure game studio anymore. Because they made SimCity, didn't they? Like, that was a Sierra game. The original SimCity? Yeah, I think they did. No, I think it was always Maxis. I'm sure it was always Maxis.

Yeah, but I'm sure Sierra had something to do with it. I'm probably wrong. Sierra more recently, which is not actually recent at all, made Evil Genius. You remember that game? Yeah, I like that game. You know the guy who coded that is that AI wizard. What's his name?

AI wizard. Oh, God, what's his name? Bobby Fisher. No, no. What's that game called? The Republic? Not the chess guy. No, not chess. She's like an AI wizard, no? No, but he was involved in that, in making that. So that was made by Demis Hassabis. Okay, so he worked on Evil Geniuses. That was one of the games that he worked on. Because he made this game called The Republic, which was meant to be this huge sort of sprawling, intelligent game. And it didn't quite work out. Was that a web game?

No, it wasn't. No. It was like a web-based game? Or I'm thinking of something else. Yeah, but it was really meant to be like something. Oh, cool. But so yeah, so he did that. And then he did Evil Genius, which was good. And then he stopped doing video games switched to cognitive neuroscience and he co-founded deep mind technologies which then became deep mind which beat you know the alpha the go guy so right because i always thought the ai wasn't too bad

in evil geniuses and now you know why there you go because it was a genius doing the coding for there was an actual guy an AI expert behind the whole thing. Yeah. Fucking crazy. And now he's working on Skynet. Yeah, fully. We're dead. Oh, man.

So, I mean, going across America, right? Let's go back to this. I imagine there's actually a really amazing road trip route that goes, you know, through all the really fucking amazing places across America. route that goes you know through all the really fucking amazing places across america like um you know the the redwoods and you know through all the fucking national parks and stuff it's gotta be i mean there's a i read a bit i read um uh zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance right there was quite famous 20 years ago yeah yeah um and it's got so it's a book. It was quite famous 20 years ago. Yeah, yeah. And it's got, so it's a funny old book,

but it's kind of about like this guy's sort of attitude to stuff. And he makes a big deal of how he went across America on his motorbike and sidecar with his son and with his family and places like this. And they didn't, they stuck to the back rows. Okay, that was their sort of mantra. They always went along. They never went along their sort of mantra. They always went along. They never went along the sort of big, huge freeways.

They always just went and found stuff. It was really kind of nice. It's something I'd really like to do. So, PFLAX, if you want to do that sometime, man, I'll come and go halves with you on the driving. Sweet. Nice. You guys can just hold each other on a motorbike,

take turns driving. I'll be in the sidecar. Can you drive a car, Lewis? You can drive? You can sit in the sidecar and read the map on your phone. Of course I can drive. What do you mean, of course you can drive? I've never seen you drive a car.

I don't even believe you own a car. I don't own a car anymore. I used to have an Alfa Romeo, though. I used to drive around a lot. Oh, wowzers. All right, Mr. Big Shot, then you can fucking pay for the whole trip and do all the driving. Hi, I would like to rent a Lamborghini for one month. Yes, me and my friend are doing a road trip across America. Pat Films did that road trip from LA to Vegas. Yeah, that was actually one of the things that I was thinking of doing post-TI last year

was two of my buddies were going to meet me in LA. We were going to go to a couple of parties and we were going to drive to New Orleans. So we were going to go, like that LA to Vegas is like a classic drive. And we were going to do that, hang out in Vegas for a few days, drive to New Orleans,

hang out there for a bit. New Orleans. And then they'd fuck off home and I'd go on to Florida. And that would have been cool. But in the end, they were like, it's going gonna cost thousands of dollars so i said yeah it is costly like a lot of people there's a lot of people who can do it for cheaper going on holiday no places to go always expensive sleep on people's floors and stuff like that it's like um yeah you know in the 90s when you were in like a rock band and you were just starting out you had to go touring yeah around america that's what you do right you'd have a van

like an old secondhand van that you'd put all your equipment in drive around do your shows and stuff and then you would fans would offer you a place to sleep and you would take your sleeping bag and sleep on the floor and stuff and it would keep the costs down because you're banned good times you got to eat you got to play shows and you need beer money and also money for cocaine and prostitutes i imagine like a road trip is a pretty a relatively it's kind of it can be really cheap if you're smart about it but if you're if you're really dumb and you stay in like you know overpriced hotels like in in the city and stuff like that it can be pretty expensive yeah so here's a game that sierra published half-life oh shit yeah back in the day yeah they would have yeah because they were based in bellevue so as far as i know they're still going

i i think they i just think that they've their their activity is is minimal i think they're owned by Activision. And it said here, on August the 7th, 2014, the website for Sierra, which previously redirected to Activision, which isn't a good sign, was updated,

showcasing a new logo, teasing that more to be revealed at Gamescom 2014. The revived Sierra Entertainment will re-release some of their older games, re-imagine their older franchises. And then it says that they did a few other things i always remember

saying the king's quest and geometry wars was a run out so two games above the server they were yeah king's quest space quest they did all the space quest leisure suit larry those were like the big sierra franchises back in the day do you remember hero's quest hero's quest yeah yeah they didn't trademark that shit really so they had to rename it why would they just didn't so when the game hero quest came along the board game hero quest which i think was like mattel or hasbro they copyrighted it and i had that that game that board game have you seen all the fucking little figures we painted the shit out of those have you seen the video why hero quest is the greatest board game of all time no i haven't i should check it out

i played i used to play it a lot we had a really good time playing it too it was fun Have you seen the video, Why HeroQuest is the Greatest Board Game of All Time? No, I haven't. I should check it out. I used to play it a lot. We had a really good time playing it, too. It was fun. It was really simple, too. This big bearded Aussie guy pointing out every single thing that he loves about HeroQuest and what a great game it is. It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant.

You've got to watch it. I'll check it out. That sounds good. We should do that for Games Night. Yeah. It's like D&D Lite. It's a really simple game to play games night yeah it's like um it's like dnd light like it's it's really simple it's super light yeah yeah it's it's it's it's very fun though i've never played it hey listen um so i did a we did a road trip well we did many road trips as

as a family like when i was growing up sort of thing but one of the road trips that we did was we drove from Ottawa to Orlando, which is like two or three days driving. And it takes you through like all the great Eastern states like New York and like North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, like states like that. You left Georgia off that list. Not a fan? Well, I don't remember going through it. It was all a bit of a blur i was pretty young at the time but yeah i remember we got we we we got into like florida state and we were making our way down to orlando and i think it just timing

wise we i think we had to like stop in jacksonville or something because it was really late we had to stay over sort of not a great town no offense jacksonville but you're a hole but anyway one thing i i distinctly remember being sort of like surprised by we we were driving down we stopped off at a diner to eat lunch and we we got in there it was like oh table for four because i had like younger brother or whatever so we sat down and we were just sitting there like looking at menus and stuff and then two like highway patrol guys came in you know with the fucking aviators and like the weird you know scout hats and you know a big gun holster right now yeah they had like the big gun holsters and like these like

fucking magnums and stuff and they walked in and they were you know doing like the posturing and stuff and they're like oh yeah we need two tables please and there's two of them and i was like at the time i was pretty young i was at times like well maybe they just don't want to sit together like maybe they just want like to sit at their own tables like they're on a break or something like i didn't get it so like i watched them and so so they went over like in the corner of this diner and there was two tables and they both sat at one table and i was like okay well what the fuck and then they just started fucking unloading guns onto the other table okay so they they actually had a gun table um that just had like a shotgun on it from the car and like all of these guns

taking out they weren't firing the guns i sorry i thought they were firing the guns at people at another table for a second but no they would they were unholstering guns okay i hope they'd leave a decent tip if they were just like unloading like these guns onto the table they had like like little fucking like like like boot holstered guns that they took out and stuff and they just completely de-gunned to sit down and have like coffee and then there's just like this mountain of weapons on this table beside them it was fucking weird and then um i sort of said to my dad like oh is that what you guys do because my dad was like a cop um in ottawa and he's like no no we don't have like that many guns

that was it it's like so weird it was just we don't have like that many guns. In Canada. It's like so weird. It was just so fucking weird. Like Florida cops. How much they had like what? Six or seven guns each. It was nuts. It was like, I was just like waiting for one of them to just get a bazooka out and put that on. And like, it was just crazy.

And it was, I think it was the first time that I sort of realized that American and Canadian cultures is very similar, but very different at the same time. Like there's just certain things that they do in America that are just so fucking alien to Canadians. And I think the gun table was definitely one of them. It was really weird. I think the thing about America and especially when it comes to decisions about the police or the military and stuff like that, especially when it comes to decisions about the police or the military and stuff like that, is that it is actually, it's hard to argue with the fact that if you're going to be a cop and there's a potential that you might have to shoot people, you should really have a shitload of guns so that if it comes down to it,

your police officer is not going to get killed. Like if you're going to send people out saying, okay, you guys are going out, you'll be like a hundred miles from anywhere on a motorcycle. You don't want to be able to just give them a fucking pea shooter and it all it all comes around because um police just used to have like a fucking revolver right yeah that's all they used to have just their little six-shot revolver pew pew pew and then it's like well yeah but they started giving them pepper spray they had the stick as well you know they could do those fancy moves with the stick but all the thing is if i've got a gun and you're like click click well to the stick i go what are you gonna rush yeah but you could like what if you

what it depends what the stick's made of because you could like genji that shit right you'd like raw like deflect the shots and stuff that'd be pretty good but that's the uh i don't think but i just feel like that the american response to any kind of threat is well i'm not good out there without a fucking machine gun Yeah Well what if they have machine guns You're right we better have a tank Hey Sarge I'm going to need a minigun for this patrol

No problem Check it out Take it from the machine gun locker Make sure if you go to a diner you put the minigun on a different table It might knock over your sandwich We need a minigun table, please. This one is too big to add to the mountain of other armaments that we've brought

into the diner today. Everybody clear out. We've got to bring a tank into the diner. We've got to park it in the diner. You guys have any bigger parking spots outside? We've got a tank here. It's a police tank, okay? Not only does it shoot shells but it's

got a battering ram to knock down doors for crack houses as well that's right the tank is hungry two chicken sandwiches for us and a bacon to go and then the fucking lady goes out on roller skates two milkshakes for the tank shove the sandwiches down the turret fuck me but that's the way they roll they're like it makes perfect sense really

if you have a situation where you're going to need guns why don't we have the biggest guns like that's pretty much it we need more guns that's how you combat guns yeah exactly

it's crazy and it's hard it is hard to argue against that like it's i mean the thing is you know canada and england are i think quite similar in a lot of ways and that we're just or britain i should say it kind of like well we don't really need guns if we need them we'll worry about it when we need them but not everybody walks around carrying a fucking gun in the uk no i mean in canada there are lots of guns like you know hunting is is a big thing in canada lots of people have hunting rifles and stuff at home but the the control around them and the permit issuing and everything

is a lot tighter and better controlled in canada so whilst there's lots of guns um they're you know you you're required to lock them up properly you're required to do all this stuff because like i guess in america a part of the problem is that guns a lot of the times you know like it it's it's easy enough to go into a store and and get a gun if you have a permit or whatever i don't know exactly how it works but a lot of guns are stolen from people's houses right and like and that's and that's a huge problem as well and i guess like having to to lock them up properly or like hide them or whatever is like you know a thing that they do in canada so a lot less end up on the streets but i mean i i guess like gun crime is still a bit of a problem

in canada but it's obviously nowhere close to what it is in the in the states like it's i mean it's clearly nothing like i know that people are saying like this is one of those arguments is going to run and run and it's it's a huge debate about a couple of sentences that were written like 200 years ago in the papers, the constitution and everything. They wrote down the people, organized militia and everything. And there's so much debate about what that means and whether it's relevant and whether it still applies. But there's so many fucking guns in America.

Whenever I go over there, I'm amazed at the number of people walking around just carrying guns. They've just got a gun. They've got one on their hip or their car has got a gun rack on or you go into Walmart and there's fucking a whole aisle of guns and ammo and stuff. And I'm just like, wow, it really is such a big thing. And I just wonder, is it just that? Like, is it just the fact that guns are so commonplace

and so usual that it's like i'm gonna argue with this person i'm gonna get my fucking gun out and i'm gonna show him his bus the thing is as well and and something that a lot of people don't consider is that there are a lot of people who just like guns like they just want to own guns and they like them and they think they're fucking cool and they want to shoot them at a target range or whatever and stuff and like you know i guess that's like you know something in itself or whatever but you know some people are like very enthusiastic about guns as well and like you know i think it's it's it's one of those things you you like them i guess or you or you really don't like them i mean i know lots of people in this country yeah it's like marmite right guns and marmite yeah guns and marmite i mean lots of people in this country that i know

have never shot a gun never really seen a gun yeah and when they when they see one they're like holy shit it's a gun you know like when we go to the airport that's the only time you really see people at the airport and outside embassies like outside the u.s embassy you see guys with guns and outside the uh you know at heath.s embassy you see guys with guns and outside the uh you know at heathrow and stuff heathrow airport they've got those fucking machine guns yeah like a mp5 or whatever it is like they've got proper submachine guns and shit they're ready yeah yeah um whereas on the street like i you never see police officers with guns unless it's like a big deal like someone like a downing street i think they might have some guys with guns and if there's i mean i remember when the queen uh for the jubilee had a gun she had a

gun yeah they figured out that golden carriage yeah she just fired it in the air james bond style gonna need a second parade for all my guns get the gun carriage parading behind her the queen's carriage guns waving to people as it goes past yeah yeah it's fucked up yeah i'm happier living with the knowing that if i'm gonna get in trouble i'm probably just gonna get you know beaten up rather than shot yeah yeah i i would i would prefer to be harmed in a more personal sort of manner rather than at long at long range you know like if somebody's gonna hurt me try to like gouge my eyes out or stab me or something don't don't pussy out and shoot me from like you know so you're saying 20 meters away

when someone sees you having shat your pants and you're walking down the street you want them to come up and like push push your eyes in and then crack your skull like i want to feel the human touch when i'm being killed i I imagine like a fucking cop in Canada was just coming with a big hunting rifle into the diner and they'd go, I need a second table for my moose that I just shot. That's racist. Get off, moosey. Yeah.

They don't go down easy either. Like one shot for a moose, it's pretty rare. Like that's when you need the Heathrow. The Heathrow like one one shot for a moose it's pretty rare like you need that's when you need the heathrow the heathrow you need a minigun no i've never shot a moose no no i wouldn't dare god what if it turned around and bucked you you'd be dead sips likes the person literally rip your head off yeah he goes up and starts wrestling with it moose did you just shit in public that's it you're going down fucked up son yeah just like one firm hand on the shoulder and the other one just fucking gouging his guts out with a knife prison prison style prison style yeah jesus christ holy shit um so have you guys played like any any

video games have you have you gravitated like any any video games have you have you gravitated any into any new games recently are you guys enjoying any new experiences in games or is it just lots of dota hearts of iron for um i've actually stopped playing hearts of iron 4 so much um because i i think it's still saving it for the recording saving it for the recordings but also because um i mean it's still early days and saving it for the recordings. Yeah, saving it for the recordings, but also because, I mean, it's still early days. And I remember Hearts of Iron 3, when it came out, did this kind of goofy shit. And I'm just kind of sick of the AI

and its incompetence at the moment. The more you play it, the more you see it do the same thing. You're just like, well, fuck's sake. Like, it's either too easy or that your allies are fucking idiots. It was really, really apparent. Because we started another game, right? We've got the game that we played as the scandinavian fascists that's that's out now and going up on team double dragon and people seem to uh actually surprisingly people seem to

enjoy it so far people love a bit of fascism i wasn't expecting at all yeah i guess people do love a bit but we don't really care. My mantra is we're going to do what we want to do, and if you like it, great. And if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it. And you can pretty much tell within the first couple of episodes if you're going to like it or not. I mean, alternatively, my mantra is I want to efficiently make money. Right.

Which conflicts with yours, of course, but I'm sure we can find like a middle ground anyway um so we start another game and the the ai being hilariously bad at times is i i find really apparent in that game because there have been some questionable decisions made in that game um but it's coming along nice it's exciting actually because uh just i don't want to spoil anything but man who would have thought that we would actually have had an impact the way that we've had in that game like it's really interesting yeah yeah i feel like um i have never played it having ticked the box historical focus and i kind of think if you

tick that little box the game has a better idea of what it should be doing historical focus and i kind of think if you tick that little box the game has a better idea of what it should be doing yeah otherwise and i saw this this post this guy put on the hearts of my force subreddit the other day saying where are all the germans and he was trying to find the hundreds of divisions of german troops trying to figure out where the fuck they were because the war in france was not going well Like the English landed, they sent a couple of divisions, they ran around a little bit and then they just left. They just left. They could have taken Germany.

There was nobody in Germany. They just sort of went, well, there's no one here to fight. We didn't actually do this in real life. So we're not going to start doing it now. Or they're like, oh wait,

someone's invading our tiny island in the Pacific that nobody gives a shit about. Quick men to the battlements. And they sort of get on their ships and just coast straight over there. It's just kind of daft. Hundreds of divisions across to defend this Pacific outpost.

So he found all the German divisions. They had hundreds of them in China. They had hundreds of them in Southeast Asia. They had a load in New Zealand and places. It's just like, what are you doing? It doesn't make sense. The AI should understand you don't need to commit an army or multiple

army groups to something that big. It should weight it based on not just resources, but tactical importance. It doesn't really understand that. And when you're fighting them, they tend to just do the old let's form a massive line and slowly grind our way through them. Where's the encirclement? You have to fuck up. Where's the paratroop drops exactly yeah i haven't seen any ai do do parachutes or even really naval invasions they do a naval invasion with like two divisions and if it works

then they suddenly stick a load more in but they don't commit and it's just kind of i don't know i find at the moment it's a bit bonkers but like i said hearts of iron three was the same it all evened out and eventually it became you know steadier and there was more there was more i haven't installed a mod actually in hearts of iron so we might have you might have to install that when you play with me next because it's the it's the historical flag mod for the nazi flag you know if you put that nobody in germany can watch our videos right yeah you're not allowed you shouldn't i i don't even know why you would be compelled to consider that what's the difference you're not allowed you shouldn't i i don't even know why you would be compelled to consider that what's the difference you're fucking nazi lewis is that what it is what

are you some sort of fucking oh it's really nice to see the nazi it's just it's real it's what actually fucking happened it's like it was actually designed by hitler as well it was he was an artist and he designed that logo. It's just not the same seeing this weird sort of German Empire flag that they've got in here. Like, Herzlwein has got everything else except that Nazi flag. Well, you're not allowed to. It is a... It's got Hitler.

It's got historical accurate stuff. It's got the real Japanese flag. It's got the real other, every other flag. Right, but they're not banned in their respective countries. And Germany has banned the swastikas. So they're literally like, we can't sell this game if we ship it with a Nazi flag. That's why Wolfenstein had Nazi flags all over the place, but you couldn't play it in Germany. Correct me if I'm wrong, commenters, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, commenters, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. Yeah. Well, as somebody who visits Germany very occasionally, I can pretty much say that I think you're right. I mean, when I went there dressed as Hitler waving a giant flag, it was not well received. No, no, I don't think that they find jokes about Hitler very funny because they're really sensitive and touchy about it, understandably.

That's just the one thing that's missing from Heart of Iron hearts of iron and do you know what it's a big thing it's a really big thing for whom some to me well it's different for me to see like you know the war going on in europe and this kind of weird you know it's different to see the nazi flags actually fighting along you know on the borders it doesn't give you a boner unless it's a swastika is that what you're telling me? No, I guess... This is killing my boner! This game isn't sexy enough for me. It's killing my war boner.

It needs to be really racist to get me going. It's shooting me right in the boner. Do you know what's next for you? Is requesting that you have the Final Solution stuff and the Holocaust put into the game as well, which is a constant thread on the forums. How come you can't kill any Jews in this game? I'm outraged.

I was not allowed to watch my snuff videos on my iPad on the plane. What the hell? I don't think those two things are the same, P-Flags. All I'm saying is, dude, that there is a subset of people that play these games because they want to recreate what they see as the missed opportunity

of Germany conquering the world. And I think you, Lewis Brindley, are one of them. Closet Nazi. It is whitewashing history, though. It's like Holocaust. The game is a Holocaust-ed dying game. That's what I'm saying. How do you feel about that?

Oh, man. I don't know how I feel about it. How do you feel about it? Oh, shit. You're right. The fucking paradox holocaust in us we got him boys to the Hague to the Hague Jesus Christ

so Hearts of Iron 4 I think we're unanimous in saying we're playing it to record it now and we haven't been playing it much in our spare time I've obviously played a little bit of some other stuff i bought on steam to try it out i've like i picked up on the sale and i've actually i think i've bought about 10 games i've steam refunded about eight oh wow fucking

there's nothing out of the moment if i'm honest like i i mean i'm just playing doter i'm playing csgo i'm playing overwatch i'm playing there's those are the games that i'm caning at the moment like i was going to play that serial killer one what's it called Dead by Daylight or whatever and I was just kinda like eh

I can't be bothered it's okay it's not that great it gets a lot of hype and it's it's alright it's a YouTubey game I think it's cause it's summer

and they figure that nerds are gonna go outside but they are wrong maybe yeah I mean nerds don't really go outside we need a good game somewhere is when you need good games because of all the fucking healthy tanned alpha people out there we nerds need games to climb indoors and hide oh my god i've got i mean speaking of tans i've got like the ultimate dad tan like on my neck

though like i've like my whole body is neon white except for the back of my neck, which is like fucking like brown as hell. Right. Is that because you stand like hunched over outside the school waiting for yourself? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

Like, so the sun doesn't reach anywhere else except for the back of my neck. Nice. Yeah. And then occasionally if I have to be outside, like against my will, that's where the sun seems to like to to go on me as well so do you normally slather yourself up with suntan cream but you always forget the back

of your neck no not not not really no I mean like you have to in the UK like I never ever wear suntan lotion no it's never sunny in the UK so it was the point I mean if it's a boiling hot day yeah and we're gonna be out like sometimes in summer you know when it gets like 30 32 yeah and we're gonna be out all day being bald especially i better lather up the old head but i i don't burn like i remember when we went when when i was down a couple weeks ago famous last words yeah yeah i bet you go like i bet you go red like a tomato like yeah like like duncan was out in the sun for half an hour when we were filming his arm was bright pink like he burned oh shit yeah she burned like i was in the same sun and nothing like nothing i just duncan does have like a nerd complexion though big time he is almost an albino hey nerd skin

and nerd skin hey nerd skin nerd skin gonna get a little sunburn nerd skin don't be mean no i'm not i'm just i'm just just pointing out that you know just pointing out he's got nerd skin what's and he's got nerd skin so what can you do i need to get into another rpg or something like this i think i might have to pick up i might have to play fallout or something like that i played i played it fallout 4 I actually finished it. I did the storyline. Oh, wow. But I went with the Brotherhood of Steel and did their whole... They're annoying. Because the Fallout 4 endings, it turns out,

are not the same as the previous games. You remember like in New Vegas and in Fallout 3, when you finish the game, you'd get like little differences in like that sort of like montage at the end. You know, it'd be like the lone wanderer decided not to take his dog with him and instead shit on some guy's head. And, you know, like it just like depending on what you did

and who you were not friends with and who you're friends with, you had like these different little subtle things in the ending or whatever i never finished yeah fallout 4 the endings are a little bit different like it's more faction based like the endings seem to revolve around sort of you either doing something with the institute or something with the brotherhood of steel or something with like the railroad who are like synth um sympathizers or whatever yeah they're all against each other so you can't really have a bit of one and the other sort of thing and your endings and your endings reflect that yeah which is i don't know how i feel about that i kind of like the old

way the old endings in the fallout games but it was still pretty satisfying the brotherhood of steel questline thing was was pretty awesome it was there's definitely some very funny moments in there as well like very fallout-esque it definitely used to be like like one of the expansions i remember was that one with fallout i think it was a new vegas expansion where you went to the far mountain or something like that or or big empty big m big m the big mt yeah the big mountain and that was um a great little expansion it was enclosed it was almost like blues yeah fuck that was the best expansion some of these dlc i've ever played some of the dlcs it was so fucking funny holy shit

it was and it was really well written some of them were great and basically that they were quite they had like a path like a linear path that you went through, but you chose different things along that path, right? And so your choices along that path changed the final story, right? Whereas I think with Fallout 4, you pick one of four paths and that takes you to an ending, right? So, I mean, I picked the ending,

which was the Institute, because I just sort of, you know, that's where I was going and that's what I was doing and I wanted to know what happened. And so, yeah, I ended up destroying the other factions as part of that. Yeah. You have to sort of thing.

So it was kind of, it was, it was a strange experience, but I mean, I'm, I'm excited. I haven't played the new fallout for DLC far Harbor expansion. No,

that's, so that's a, that's like a Nick Valentine sort of a girl's gone missing and she might be a synth and you have to go find her sort of thing. And it takes you to like a new location or whatever. Yeah. i i've got it as well i didn't i didn't play it i keep meaning to go back my sort of feeling on that is that i tend not to want to do those dlcs until the whole all of them are out yeah and until there's a couple of must-have mods to install and so that's when i tend to go back. I play a game, a release, and then I come back to it in a year or whatever.

Once it's got the gold edition and... And it comes with everything, sort of. Yeah. Well, so the DLC that's coming out this month for Fallout 4, at some point, I'm not sure when, but I'm going to pick it up because it looks pretty fun, is the one where you build your own vault and people can live in it.

Right, right. You can get them to do shit, which should be pretty fun. I don't think you build your own vault, but people can live in it right get them to do shit which should be pretty fun i don't think you build your own vault but i think it's you know the whole settlement building thing applies where you can place furniture and you can have a vault yeah yeah that appeals to me i i would like that like i if i if i could have like a a base i would like to be in a vault because i just i like the settlement building and especially in fallout four they're not ugly as shit you know, they actually look interesting and nice. It's such a pretty game.

The vaults in Fallout 3 and in New Vegas were just so fucking depressing. Holy shit. They were interesting. Fallout 4's great. It's a great game. Great gunplay. Great story.

Great, like, I think they tried. They were quite ambitious. I feel like comparing it to World of Warcraft is like the settlements thing is a little bit like garrisons you know you build up stuff but they tie into the storyline they're trying to advance they're trying to advance the the world a bit right like like the brotherhood is still like in that game obviously are are pretty well set up you know like they've got a fucking blimp and everything and and you know what i mean like i think i think maybe like future

fallout games we'll see like some of these like more established factions getting bigger and and more to do like in them and stuff like that you know it's not like what i want to know is if if it actually happened like fallout 4 and everything like that what would you actually do like you wouldn't be the lone wanderer killing people no what would you actually do like imagine right i'm just i've i think about this all the time and i think it's part of one culture we think about the apocalypse and was oh this is what i do if there was a zombie apocalypse and stuff let's imagine that shit gets crazy in the next year and right around christmas time the nukes start flying you survive your family survives what do you do like what are

you gonna do man it would be so fucking miserable like it would be so bad like i would not want to survive i would just want to be killed in in the explosions like i wouldn't do shit it would suck it would really fucking suck like the world as you know it would be not there you'd have not no fucking comfort whatsoever like you just have to start from scratch with so much shit that you take for granted now it'd be impossible and the constant fucking suck balls of some gang of of maniacs like killing you and eating you and the thing is it you know it's fine to read about it in fallout four where it's like you know they're they they're murderers and rapists and

stuff and you're like yeah well whatever they're raiders and it's a video game and fine i'll just go kill them all but like fuck if that was if that was really threatening like your family who survived a nuclear blast and stuff that would suck too you would never sleep you'd just be like what the fuck like yeah are my kids gonna be kidnapped by like these fucking people and my wife is gonna get killed by them and stuff like i would not want to live in that world at all it sounds like a terrible idea let's not do it that's yeah yeah it would just i think as someone who is like a lone wolf you know like me someone here we go has no obligations the first thing

I would do is I would paint a gigantic swastika on my t-shirt I'd raise the flag above my house and I'd declare new Hitler

new Nazi new Nazi land the new Reich that's what you'd have to be the new Reich the new Reich oh my god that's right holy shit i don't want that to ever happen to the world like i'm quite happy taking my kids to school playing video games

enjoying electricity like you know like our knowledge of what was happening in the world would be so limited like there's no internet there's no tv like that all gets destroyed by the emp pulse and everything so your communication consists of what you can say to your neighbors and and and people if any of the authorities drive around with a bullhorn saying we're all fucked just stay inside and die alone please don't come out the real deal if there was some sort of disaster like like post-apocalyptic nuclear war at this point in time which is not a zero percent chance okay um there is uh there is you know the uk is

not in a great position right because it's quite densely packed it's right in the middle between uh china and america kind of thing i mean well then again like it's it's one of these places where we're gonna's close to Europe, which is going to get, we are going to get badly fucked up, right? And not only that, but the UK has got so many people in it

and so many, so reliant on food imports that it's one of the worst places in the world for you to be in the case of apocalypse because all of the food, you know, comes,

is so much, I think we're something like five days like food away from the whole country starving kind of running out of food sort of thing it's like some it's like if the bees disappeared yeah the whole place would like shut down in like a matter of weeks whatever there's certain there's certain things about the uk is one of the worst places to be actually um if you want to there's all sorts of... There's all sorts of... Yeah. I don't think it's going to be like Mad Max. It's going to be like gangs of crazy people.

But I see crazy people out on the street all the time. I'm like, they are out there. Oh, yeah. It's like, you know, it's not... And we don't have guns. We've already talked about this. Maybe the Americans are right. Yeah.

Sips, you're going to have to get close to a person with a knife. You're going to have to jug people. That's what's going to come down to you. Get the fucking jug out of there. How are you going to heat the water, Sips? You're going to have to get close to a person with a knife. You're going to have to jug people. That's what's going to come down to you. How are you going to heat the water, Sips? You're going to have to jug them. Yeah. It's just like fucking somebody get the electricity online straight away. We got kettles to boil.

I've already had to jug two people today. We got some jugging to do. That's how we're going to assert our dominance. The juggers are coming. The local jugger gang. Guys walking very carefully towards you With a jug of boiling water Oh no Betty Lou

This summer's harvest of pumpkins is gone Who do you think did it It was them juggers Oh my god And then in like 50 years time You know your nan will be saying Oh them juggers yeah i can't believe them no but the thing is you know you guys say like oh what would you do if like you

know and the nukes dropped and the world ended and stuff that the reality is is that we if we were in a bomb shelter uh we would die in there uh because we would not live past the point where we could resurface. Like, I mean, we're like in our 30s and 40s and stuff. We would die in those vaults. No, no, you could come up after a few years. And if we had kids or whatever, how many years? It's like two or three years. No, it's got to be longer than that.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you'd have to wear the suit. You'd have to wear like a suit, but you could at least figure out what the fuck was going on. And you would never be able to produce food. It would take like way longer than that. You would need to have underground, a pretty big,

like bigger than your house underground. You'd need to have water filtration system, air filtration system, and you'd need to figure out a way to store enough food to feed your family of four people for potentially like 10 years.

Yeah. So you've got everything you need. You need weapons. So you need like NASA paste for sure. Yeah. Something that's compact. That's hard to come by. And you'd also need to have vitamins because you're not going to see the sun.

You're going to get scurvy if you don't eat some fresh fruits. You've got to worry about shit like that. It's going to be almost impossible. I feel like it's the price we pay for living in civilization though is that if it is that 0.000 whatever chance of the big the big apocalypse happening we're just we're just dead yeah we're dead yeah otherwise we're not the other option is we could build ourselves a shelter out in south georgia somewhere where it's you know in the middle of fucking nowhere yeah yeah where no one's ever gonna bomb because there's nothing out there and you know make out and spend loads of time out there but then we have to live there yeah yeah it sucks yeah we'd rather die do you

want to live your entire life as a worm or a week as a tiger you put a shelter in fargo you'd be like we're gonna live in fargo to stay near to our apocalypse shelter you'd be like oh fuck i wish i was dead you resurface and like it's untouched it's the exact same people are still living their lives what's up anything interesting happening the entire world's ended

except for Fargo is still thriving still going we haven't had any new bread deliveries for a while but nobody seems too bothered it's fine TV's acting up again just the old guy banging the tv in the corner of the bar this freaking thing's been on the fridge for five years already oh man um but i mean fallout 4 like i don't think you need to

wait for all the dlc honestly i think that there's enough to do like the settlement stuff they've released a bunch of dlc for like you can make factories and stuff and there's there's enough to do like the settlement stuff. They've released a bunch of DLC for like, you can make factories and stuff and there's, there's definitely enough to do. I guess I finished the game as Brotherhood of Steel and I instantly restarted again because I want to finish it as like a, I want to do like the Institute route. I, I mean,

it's, it's a spoiler, but it's, I mean, is it okay to spoil Fallout 4? It's been out for months now, right? Like nobody cares. So I get to the end.

In the Brotherhood of Steel line, you basically have to assault the Institute because you find the Institute and stuff. And same with the Railroad. You have to assault them and kill them all as well because those are like the main rival factions. So there's big quests to basically get rid of them sort of thing. So in, in the,

in the final big push in the Institute or whatever, you know, you meet your, your son and he's created a synth of him as, as a little boy and stuff. And you, and you find out that it is a synth and depending on how you're sort of like aligned in the game or whatever like i i was like a real synth hater in my in my playthrough so like right

at the end like the institute is like about to explode or there's going to be a nuclear detonation or whatever and this little boy runs up to you it's like mama mama can i come with you and then there's like a dialogue option who's like you're a fucking robot so so i picked that one and then and then he goes like really fucking sinister on you like how fucking dare you you're gonna leave me here and then the dialogue ends so then i naturally tried to shoot him in the face right um but the game won't let you like you can't kill a kid in fallout still so so that was that like i tried to shoot the first mod though that's like the nazi mod for heart survival they can't they can't get it published in countries where you're where you can do that it's crazy so i tried to shoot young robotic sean in the face for dissing me hard right before i blew up the Institute.

And I couldn't. I felt a bit cheated. But then, you know, you get to blow it up anyway and probably dies. So it was all good. It all worked out. I mean, I blasted through it too. Like it took me no time at all. Sounds like it.

To do. It was really good. I enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. Nice. Yeah. You started playing hearthstone again recently as well did you i did yeah i don't know what i don't know what prompted me to play it

i had like no interest in it and then i think i hadn't even i hadn't even finished all of the league of explorers stuff so like i still had cards to unlock so i did all that yesterday i haven't even i haven't even bought that expansion yeah but i was watching i think it was strife crow i was watching him i i watched like one of his videos where he was playing um like some c'Thun warrior deck and i didn't know i didn't know anything about you know whispers of the old gods i didn't really know how any of the new cards worked or whatever and i just thought that c'Thun was awesome just just the way that you know you build up to him and you you drop him down and he does shit and it's i just thought it was really cool i wanted to try it out so that that's what

got me back in started i made the c'Thun warrior deck and played around with that and then um i think i got Yogg-Saron out of a pack so i made some weird homebrew warrior Yogg-Saron out of a pack. So I made some weird homebrew warrior Yogg-Saron deck, which I haven't lost with yet, but I'm at like rank 20. So it's been really fun. Actually, the new cards just, and playing in standard is really nice too. Like there's no Dr. Boom and piloted shredders

and all the dumb shit that really annoyed me creepers yeah yeah yeah like all the old stuff is is out so like scientists are gone yeah it's a relief yeah it is it is it is really nice it's it seems to refresh the game and there's lots of really interesting decks and you know there's, I was watching Kibler playing like some like C'Thun, Reno, Yogg deck or something. And it was just, it was mad. It was just crazy. But it was so funny. Like, you know, some of the blunders, like with the unknown shit, like the RNG and everything.

And it was just, it was just very, very entertaining and just very fun. And I think that's like what Hearthstone is meant to be. I play Hearthstone on Thursdays with Ter it is it's a good it's good fun and every time i play it does get me into it a little bit that's the thing i can't i can't help getting back into it i think and heart playing heartstone makes me want to play wow but i feel like heartstone is a little bit like dota to me and now that it's it's it can be very grindy and repetitive and forgettable right it's not it's a very forgettable, time-wasting experience for me playing Hearthstone and Dota.

So it's one of my resolutions to try and not play these games that are just hours and hours and hours sunk into it for no real remembering or no real joy. But yeah, I've got enough games to try out i've i bought crypt of the necrodancer i played that for a bit it was quite fun crypt of the necrodancer i quite enjoyed that actually i feel like games companies are running out of names to give their games so they just call it stuff like that well the necrodancer treasure of the wizard's tomb and the warlock also with a witch companion so they just get longer and longer it's the rhythm

based um like rpg rogue like thing so now they're running out of genre so they're like how many genres can we fit in a game yeah it's a rhythm based shooter rogue shoot them up multiplayer the guys that make these games probably just play dev game dev tycoon and they're like okay let's uh let's let's mess around with some of these different genre of games and just see what happens they're all there in game dev tycoon you can do all the mixing and matching you need yeah it's a detective dance sim, zoo sim management game with MMO elements and collectibles.

And it's a roguelike. Everybody likes a roguelike. And you can also build your own city in it too. Just as an aside if you like that sort of thing. We're trying to cater to just about everybody with this one. Do you like games? Any any game you'll find it here in abundance do you like every genre of game ever

well my game has all of them guess what we've got them all party time with the crypt of the wizard. It does actually feel like that sometimes. It's pretty weird. But, oh, man. I hear that that game's actually pretty good, though. All joking aside. Yeah, yeah. We're only fucking with you. Yeah.

It's fun. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I picked up a whole lot of crap. But I don't know. I'll just keep experimenting. So, have you got any questions from the audience, Sips? Whoa, what the fuck, man?

It's only an hour. I mean, I know we started 45 minutes late, and I've got to go. Oh, shit, sorry. It's my fault. It's my fault. I was late today. It's going to be a short one.

All right. Questions. Fine. Let's do quick. What's your favorite movie? This is from JoshWilliams98. Didn't we have this last week? I swear to God we had this last week.

What's your favorite movie? No, no. Fargo. Okay. Lewis is chiming with Fargo that's a pretty good movie which one I love it Big Lebowski dude no it's not not the best movie come on it's all right it's okay it's a great movie I liked it I really Ghostbusters 2 Grand Ole Day Ghostbusters 2. Grand Old Day. Ghostbusters 2. Fuck off. You can't say Ghostbusters 2 is your favorite movie when Ghostbusters is clearly the best. Obviously better. Yeah, yeah. It's fucking... I mean, Vigo can fuck off to start with.

He's Vigo! The hate slime of New York can fuck off as well. It's good enough, okay? It was a good enough Ghostbusters movie, but it was no way better than the first. Yeah, come on, Lewis. Eat shit. What was my favorite movie?

For lunch, okay? And die as well. I've got to say, Mad Max is my favorite movie for the last five years. The most recent Mad Max. Fury Road. That's a great movie. Such a good movie.

It's a really good movie, yeah. It was everything a movie needs to be. What's your actual answer, B-Flex? There Will Be Blood is probably one of my favourite movies of all time. You know, we talked about I Drink Your Milkshake. That one, if you don't know which one it is. That's not my favourite scene in the movie, but I fucking love that film.

I absolutely love it. I've seen it so many times. I love it, I love it, I love it. I love The Lord of the Rings. Ah, yeah, that's a good yeah it's a good extended edition man they're such good movies really die hard die hard's right up there obviously gotta love die hard love that that's a blast yeah shakespeare and love that was one for me you know you know tom we were talking about movies when i was down that's why i thought we talked about movies and uh tom tom a big movie fan, so we were talking about movies a lot. And he made a very good point about the movie Aliens,

which is also one of my favorite movies. I love that movie. Aliens? Aliens. I love both films. Alien and Aliens are amazing. I love them. They're very different movies.

One's a horror, one's like an action movie. But the thing is, he said about Aliens, he said, at no point in that movie do the Marines make the wrong decision. Unless they've been told to do something that's stupid, they don't do it. So, for instance, they're like, this isn't going well, let's get the fuck out of here. They don't say, we're going to have to stay because that's your job. And then they're like, we have to protect this place at all costs. And they're like, no, fuck it.

And then they're like, we should just take off and nuke the site from orbit. The only person who doesn't go along with that is Burke, the corporate arsehole so they make the right decision there when it comes how what are they going to do we're going to put the guns here we're going to barricade ourselves in we're going to wait we're going to get he can go there send the fucking robot down there to remote pilot the ship it all makes sense anything that goes wrong is it's not because they fucked up yeah which i like and it's a very good point that's what makes the movie so exciting is that you're not thinking no you idiots what are you fucking doing which is like the lazy way that so many movies go where they just the reason they get in trouble is they're idiots yeah these guys

get in trouble because they're up against like a horrible deadly corporate mandate and then combined with yeah yeah so it's a really good movie that's interesting yeah yeah i never considered that fucking all right well are you guys so ready to be amazed because my favorite film of all time So it's a really good movie for that reason. That's interesting. Yeah, I never considered that. Fucking. All right. Well, are you guys ready to be amazed? Because my favorite film of all time is Kingpin starring Bill Murray. Really? And Woody Harrelson.

Fuck, man. It's so fucking funny. Like, it is the best movie. That's your favorite movie of all time. If I was like on a desert island or whatever, and I could only take one movie with me, it would be that. It makes me laugh consistently every fucking time I watch it well it's amazing it's so good i'm gonna watch it this weekend yeah have you not seen it i don't think i've ever seen it no don't do a munson it is funny it is fucking funny man holy shit it's really good p flex is begrudgingly agreeing that it's funny some 1996 yeah you know what else is you know what else is

really fucking funny office space that that's another one that i mean that's a classic i love watching like every time i see it i i really really thoroughly enjoy it but yeah no kingpin is definitely that's that is truly a cult classic yeah all right i will have a i'll have a binge of those at the weekend you know what if you like sports movies which i'm sure you don't because there are hardly any good ones no i hate them too there are a few actually good sports movies money ball money ball if you haven't seen it is really good but the best sports movie ever made is it is slap shot with oh which is like an ice hockey movie that is the funniest shit i love that movie i love. Man, it's been so long since I've seen that movie,

I don't even remember it. It's so good. Is it from 1977? Yeah, yeah, dude. Young Paul Newman is in it. It's amazing. It's a great movie. What was that one that was fucking the baseball one

that had Joe Boo in it? And Charlie Sheen was in it too. He was a wild thing. Was it Major League? Major League. Yeah, that was a good sports movie too. It was just like really like fucking dumb and funny. I think Bull Durham is a better sports movie.

Like that's the one with Kevin Costner. Costner. And what's your man's name? Tim Robbins. And it's got Susan Sarandon in. Yeah, that's right. That's not a bad baseball movie. Like that's a good, there's not been many.

Because they either get too fucking romantic and whimsical. But Bull Durham, Major League. Major League is pretty funny. It's stupid, but it's fun. Flapshot. These films are so old. They don't make them like this anymore. Nobody makes them like that.

That's the thing. They don't make good movies anymore. Major League was 1989. Bull Durham was 1988. Yeah. Planes, Trains, and automobiles holy shit that movie is amazing too it's so fucking funny like and it's just not this perfect comedy formula as well like it just the shit that happens the situations like everything the story is really

good like it's just such a simple story and it fits into like an hour and a half two hour movie i mean like look at something like caddyshack right yeah right another example it's just it's got a bunch of comedians in and it's just funny it's not like a star vehicle classic right but they don't make comedies like that anymore and take no take the new ghostbusters movie right the ghost but the original ghostbusters movie i'm not getting into the whole controversy about the new ghostbusters movie but i'm saying if you look at the way that's made compared to the original ghostbusters even from the trailer i can see that there's a huge disparity between the two one of them was made in that kind of 80s madcap comedy style where you've got an ensemble cast and it's just funny and weird shit happens

it's got these weird scenes that don't really go anywhere but they're good and memorable and everything like that and nowadays it all seems to have to have a really obvious plot that follows through there's action sequences there's effects it's like a star vehicle and stuff it's completely changed i feel it's too it's like in order to get those goofy movies made it needed to be more of a relaxed industry i think because it was a lot of them were just a complete gamble it might be fucking awful if you pitched yeah planes trains and automobiles you'd be like oh it's just two guys and they have to go on a road trip and they're not like it's like it's kind of like the way that the simpsons went remember like when simpsons episodes were good yeah and they and they had a very simple like uh moral lesson right and and and the and the story was really simple like bart

fucking stole something by accident and felt bad about it in the end but funny shit happens throughout sort of thing nowadays simpsons to be funny homer has to like fucking learn japanese and go to the moon and fucking you know go back in time and like all this dumb shit that like isn't actually funny at all the story is garbage there's no there's no funny little moral or or anything to learn from at the end and they've they lost like the recipe right yeah yeah which what made it funny in the first place and i find movies are like that now too like the hangover you know like you know it's this this is meant to be like the blockbuster comedy where like these guys fucking go off and like you know oh billy's gonna get married let's go on a fucking let's go

have a bachelor party to remember and like a fucking somebody gets killed and then they they tussle with like the cartel and stuff and it's like jesus you know like you you don't have to do all this shit for a movie to be funny like you know like it can be a really fucking simple thing you know like just get fucking adam sandler in and he can just do his little thing where he's like pretending to be a kid still or whatever and it's probably pretty funny like it'd be really simple but no like it's always like this extravagant shit that like i just i just don't get like i don't i don't see i don't know why that that would pass a pitch over something else that would probably be a lot more charming and funny i think you know what i mean like i just don't understand

like the process now i don't think they gamble as much as they used to i think independent filmmakers aren't making those kind of comedies like that i don't maybe the audience has changed maybe people don't enjoy that but for instance weekend at bernie's for fuck's sake there's no way nobody's gonna make no weekend at bernie's there's no way a police academy is gonna get made do you know what i mean oh my god way a police academy is going to get made. Do you know what I mean? Oh my God. Yeah. And police academy is one of those ones

where like you look, you think back and you're like, fuck, those were really funny. And if you watch them now, they're not that good. They really are like kind of cringeworthy.

Yeah, they are. But you've got to have that. man, they were so good. Yeah. They were just so good. Yeah, I don't know. It was a different time. Holy shit.

You guys are so stuck in the 80s and you want to lay 80s, early 90s. Man, it's a nice place to be. Holy shit. Let's end it here. Thank you, everyone, for listening to this podcast. For some reason, I'm just an autopilot now. I'm very tired. That's all right, dude.

Hopefully, next week when we're back, I'll have some more energy and I'll i've done something maybe i've watched some of these movies that i now have a list of um and then after that i would love that you made me watch anime here's what we could we could give you a list of movies this is like really really great education in 80s movies and you got to watch them all and then i want you to tell us what you thought about them. Howard the Duck. Watch Howard the Duck. No. Jesus Christ. Thank God. Don't make me do that. It's a great 80s movie.

Yeah. Well, it's not actually. No. Anyway. Love you all. Peace. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.