Triforce! - Triforce! #17: Waking Up Sexy

Episode Date: August 31, 2016

The stars have aligned, Triforce is back! A lot has happened so we're going to catch up by talking about Star Trek! Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Please play responsibly. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to your favorite podcast of all time. That's right, it's the Triforce Podcast and we're all here. Oh my goodness. We had a summer vacation. The stars have aligned and for the first week in what feels like months. I think it's five weeks. It's been like five weeks.

The three of us are actually here. So what's been happening? Oh, there's so much news. There's been like five weeks. The three of us are actually here. So what's been happening? Oh, there's so much news. There's so much news. So much has happened in our lives. There's almost so much has happened that I can't even think of one thing that's happened. Yeah. I'm overwhelmed with thoughts of happenings.

So it's been a busy old summer, friends. The big thing was you doing TI. That was my big thing. That was, yeah the international that was yeah that was man did they get did they get jim henson to do those puppets of you guys because that was crazy he's dead dude i know but like he's got like a company people he's got people he's a he's a ghost they preserved his legacy they did and i you're the the person that did them used to work with jim henson okay so i knew it like you could just tell she works

for valve so she suggested to valve hey you know what we could do so for anybody that didn't watch ti6 which was the big doTERRA tournament 20 million dollar tournament you've probably read about it and seen it and stuff like that what was it 20 million 20 million dollars yeah shit first prize i didn't watch any of it eight point team got like eight points something. Oh, dude, it was amazing. It was the best TI ever. Like hands down, everybody agrees, best TI ever. Who won? Wings. Wings Gaming.

The Wings Gaming. So they're a Chinese team. We had another conversation about how terrible the team names are, and they are pretty bloody awful. The Wings. The Wings Gaming. I mean, that's- Do you remember that sitcom called Wings?

Yes, about the pilots at the airfield and everything. That's right, yeah. The Wings. The Wings Gaming. I mean, that's- Do you remember that sitcom called Wings? Yes. About the pilots at the airfield and everything. That's right. Yeah. Which was also, it was pretty bad, but- Terrible. Oddly popular. But the tournament's going on and they say to us after a couple of days, we want to do

a special thing with you guys one of the days where we'll cut back from the game to the panel. So it's like, you know, our panel, like a sort of, you know, the way on the sports show, they have like the desk and all that. Cut back to that. And instead of being you guys, you're going to be replaced with Muppets and with professional puppeteers.

And you'll hide under the desk, continue to talk as normal and just pretend it's not happening. Just have a regular conversation, but it'll be with Muppets. So you can see this segment. It's on YouTube and everything like that. It was great. It was unbelievable.

Yeah, it was funny. I saw that. Those puppets, like the lady that made them, she just had to do it from photographs. They gave her a load of pictures of us and she came up with these Muppets. Yeah, it was fantastic. I met my puppeteer and it was one of those things that I just think, I don't see how you're going to top this with a TI-7 like i don't know what else they could do did you did you have to do that thing when you met your puppeteer where he's like had to spend the day with you and get to

know the ins and outs of you so that he could adequately puppet you no yeah she met me for five minutes and she did a great job that was it we like chatted a bit she was like oh this is weird and i talked and she sort of moved the puppet along with me while i was talking to the puppet that was whoa really yeah and i was like that's fucking awkward so it was just live it was just 100 live they just had to keep up with whatever we said so they just had to get to know our voice and then once they had that that they were fine so yeah it's like speech patterns and stuff right they try to like gauge your flow or whatever it was it something else. The tournament itself was amazing. Wouldn't it be weird if your puppeteer turned out to be a lookalike of you as well?

Just by sheer coincidence. And then you had you, the puppet of you, and then you again. Me again. God, that would be weird. I turn around. It's like that bit in Being John Malkovich, where Malkovich goes into his own head, and all he sees is Malkovich's.

It would be like that. Man, that film. Malkovich. Malkovich. I enjoyed that film, actually. I did too. I remember it. Yeah, it's a good one.

I thought it was a fucking weird film, but I liked it. It was a really weird one. Very dark. It started off as kind of goofy. It got super, super dark. Yeah. And then Sir Action slacks had his sock puppet he did yeah so i mean that was hilarious because i guess they hadn't planned for sir action slacks to have his own puppet oh no that was planned all along it was planned deliberately to not give him a puppet and because he's because he's kind of a goofball uh you know, he had his own puppet and everything. That was it.

I mean, but she made it. Like, it was a professionally made sock puppet. Oh, really? Yeah. Honestly, I love slacks. I think, do you know what? Yeah, T.I. was great. You know, I've known for three years that you and slacks are like the kings

of doing it. And you did it. You did it you did it great so professional thank you exactly what it needs to be really enjoyed it yeah yeah yeah from me too like i think you're you're really good looking you're like in really good shape and stuff thanks sexy really nice watching ti for a bit and and smooth it's like this moment where time stood still and then dream weaver started playing in the background like watery eyes and stuff dream weaver i believe when you came back you were like totally drained though oh god it was two weeks um so i came back i spent like three days four days feeling still jet lagged and shitty and I couldn't

sleep so I'd be up to like 4 4 30 and then I'd wake up at like midday and then I think shit how am I gonna get rid of this jet lag and then we went away at the weekend went down to see the kids because I hadn't seen him in like three weeks so went down to see them and then came back and I was like I was I was thinking just before we went away can I stand the idea of going to a hotel again? And I thought, I can't. I need to be at home and just relax and get everything, you know, just get my head right. Whoa, wait a second. Wait a second.

You got back from being away for two weeks to a house with no kids in it? I know, dude. It was the dream. It was amazing. They're down with the grandparents. That is incredible. Damn. They're still down with the grandparents. Shit is incredible. Damn. They're still down with the grandparents.

Shit. I know. They literally spent a month. They were at the house. Grandparents took after them for two weeks. Then they went down to the coast with the grandparents. So they've been with my mom or Mrs. F's parents either way for like the last month. Man.

So they have not. Yeah, it's been something else. Next summer, that has to be the thing for my family. Do it yeah it's been something else next summer that is that has to be the thing for my family because it's great holy shit this summer this is like the first summer vacation that my son's had like because he like he finished nursery right and holy shit you get you really do get used to them being at school and like when they're home all day and not at school it's like wow it's what the fuck am I supposed to do now? They get bored. Oh, man, it's really intense. Yeah.

Like, they're really bored. And let's see, I mean, what I've always thought is, wouldn't it be amazing to just live on a house by the beach where it's nice weather all the time, and when it's summer, you just open the back up and the kids just play. Boom. But, you know, you can't do that. You live in London. You open the back doors, they're bored in 10 seconds.

So, it's like, I mean... I mean, we kind of have that, and it really doesn't work that way at all oh yeah yeah it's just like you open the back doors you're like hey go outside no we're bored play with me yeah yeah playing with you hurts my soul i hate it what i think is so it's so true if you played with kids they're the worst they're the worst especially with small kids because that their their idea of having fun and playing is so fucking alien to adults it's it's not fun it's very repetitive weird intense like relentless you have to do it the way they tell you i know that one's the princess that one's the king don't touch each other just shut up just play the fucking game well let's get some dice out if i roll

the 20 you can't speak again for 10 minutes i'll put the egg timer on that's the kind of game to you too it's like that was with books at night too like when you read them storybooks because there's always a couple of books that they have that aren't really books and they're bad they'll be mostly sticker books or something like that with no story and they're like yeah let's read that one it's not even a fucking story like let's read something good it's just a safety manual for an electric fire why are you obsessed with this thing yeah we've got like this golden opportunity to read something cool and like what are we going to do? Just look at stickers?

That fucking sucks dick. I don't want to do that. Yeah, let's crack open Game of Thrones. Let's crack open Anna Karenina. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. That's what I do. War and peace.

Like, fucking hell. I put all their favorite books on a very high shelf and all my favorite books on a lower shelf. So when they're looking for a book to read in the evening, they can only reach the books that you're happy to read them nice boom i'd like to see a picture of your your favorite bookshelf for reading with your kids what is it oh no i mean it's still just kids books but it's just that some of them are garbo and some of them are actually quite good so i mean they've got books that are just awful like the story kids don't have any taste is that what you're saying? And they're just like, they just like one picture.

Like this is the way kids will be. You'll have a shit book, but there's one picture in the book that they really like. So they'll read the whole book to get to that one page. And then when you get to their little hand will appear on the book. Like, wait, wait, wait, just let me check this picture out again. Love that picture. That is something else. They really, they got that.

That castle is something else. All right, they got that. That castle is something else. It's crazy, isn't it? Like my son did this too. We had this book. It was just like a baby book. And it had different pictures of things like that you would associate with going to bed, right? It was like one of those like typical baby books where it's like, let's get ready for bed. And then on one page, it's like, let's brush our teeth. And then and then on the second page it's like let's put our pjs on and stuff and then there's this one page where it's like let's get our teddy bear ready and even when he was like six months old he'd see this page with the teddy bear on it and he would just like he'd just crack up laughing and like get all like happy but like no other page in the book so like we it was really funny

so like every night we would just read him this book and he would laugh at the same page every time. And my daughter just started doing that too. It's the weirdest thing. Like it's a completely different book, completely different like theme and pictures and stuff. But there's one picture in the book where she's just like, it's just like, it was crazy. She just loves it. It's really weird. They are strange.

But it carries through when they get older as well. And then it turns into like a fascination with pornography instead i think you're right yeah i'm not sure what age that kicks in it's like later i'm not sure you've reached that yet with with the four year old no but that's why they this is why they send kids off to camp certainly i was sent off to camps and things in the summer holidays you know for weeks for weeks and weeks and weeks. I was not briefed on this thing about, like, I didn't think I could send my kids away on a camp. Now I'm like, oh, shit, we can send our kids away on a camp next summer. Yeah, dude, do it.

I'm tempted. Here's what I do at half term. There's like a half term club near us. The kids go in there from nine till six every day. What the fuck? The whole two weeks. I'm like, get them out of the house. So they go there.

They're like swimming. They're doing crafty stuff. They're doing good. Oh, my God. And then after two days, they're like, I love it here. There's always something to do. And I'm like, yes. So that's it.

I remember my dad and my mom used to drop me off at the brentwood leisure center okay and they would have these sort of summer activity days you know you'd go and you pay a two pound fifty or whatever and and you put we you know i'd just be left there for the whole day and i got to know brentwood leisure center so well you know i played i played squash in the morning and then we did some like you know crappy hockey in the afternoon and then we did some, like, you know, crappy hockey in the afternoon. And then we played, you know, played outside or, you know, you did stuff. They had activities for you. And, man, I remember.

Wait, did you go every summer? I went. I must have been from, I can't remember what age, but I guess from sort of six through 11 or whatever every summer. Yeah, I went to these activity camps and stuff every day. Man, my parents were weird. Like, they were never consistent. Like, I went to a summer camp one year and never again. Same.

And it wasn't because I didn't like it or whatever. They just, like, I guess they just thought that it didn't work or it was too expensive or something. No, it was the same. I only did summer camp once. Yeah. So, I went to this summer camp called camp abernacky okay yeah oh my god are you this is a true story oh yeah yeah

it's true yeah so this abernacky what a name as well camp abernacky so they had a song as well it was out in the sticks so i i was in the suburbs i grew up in the suburbs did you have did you have to do portage to get there no there was no portage involved it was okay so out in this like out in this sort of like remote little town or village um this area called cumberland okay um it was like it was probably like 20 minutes on the bus like on a big yellow school bus they'd pick you up at your house like early in the morning and drive you out to this place and it was at like this cumberland community center which was also a hockey rink okay it was a huge hockey rink there too but it was during the summer so there was no ice or anything it was just all it was all concrete so you could play floor hockey

and we played floor hockey a bunch it was like an all-day thing but the the things that i remember the most about it were that a the tap water there stunk of eggs like it was disgusting it was so fucking weird okay and there were wasps everywhere you had to eat outside for whatever reason i can't remember why we had to eat outside these picnic tables and literally were swarmed by wasps like the whole time and it was awful and then so you went there every day and you do shit like arts and crafts or sometimes you play hockey you know sometimes there was like hikes through the through the woods because it's like you know this remote area or whatever uh and then at the end of it all for the last big whiz bang or whatever you went camping overnight with everybody like from the thing yeah so it was

like you know it was a big mix of people like kids and stuff all all on their summer vacation whatever and you go camping in this huge field it was like it was like glastonbury sort of like it was just like this big empty field and you went like on a haunted ghost walk and then back to your tent and then you went to sleep. Yeah. And it was just so shit. God, I would never want my kids to have to go to that. Like it was just terrible. I can appreciate that it was cool to like have your kids, you know, like go to this place and maybe do this fun stuff or whatever.

Maybe I found it fun when I was young or whatever. But man, it was it was it was just i mean the thing is with any camp or sending your kids to something is that i'm sure there'll be people watching this and saying it's cruel how can you send your kids away you should value every second but the thing is they get super bored i know i know but like the people that say they say i want to do this today and they do it for five seconds then they get bored of it and they want to do something else and like if i pay someone else to deal with that they're trained professionals in entertaining children brilliant and for some reason they fucking enjoy it so i'm like great have my kids you find shit for them to do and they'll be like hey let's go in the pool and the kids go yay and then after an hour that they go

on board of the pool they go okay kids let's play with a giant parachute yay i don't have access to all that shit i know like i i think like. Yay! I don't have access to all that shit. I know. I think people, especially people that don't have kids, they're very idealistic, aren't they, when it comes to kids? They say that's cruel and stuff. But the fact of the matter is that kids are such fucking hard work and so intense that you do actually need a break from time to time. It's true. I think it's more cruel to

your kid for you to be completely burnt out and worn out all the time then you know just to send them away for like two weeks to have fun you know what i mean like yeah you're not you're not actually providing them with any means of having fun or whatever if literally you're miserable because you haven't had a break from kids for like a year or whatever. It's tough. It is super tough. Yeah. It's super tough.

But you know, like, like people that say that will say that and they'll be like, Oh, you know, it's cruel and stuff. And then, you know,

they'll just go like fucking watch movies until they're blue in the face and do something that doesn't involve kids. And that's good for them. Yeah. I would never send my kids to boarding school. I do think that is a bridge too far like I still want to see them I just don't want to be with them for six weeks

day in day out having to think of something to do every single day you know what the other thing is when you're with them and you can't think of shit to do and you're just like sitting there watching Star Trek and they're like I don't want to watch Star Trek this is a classic episode sit down and watch it five minutes in they're bored out of their minds.

I mean, I feel guilty after like 10 minutes of me not being able to entertain my children. I think, man, their brains are decaying in their heads or, you know, they're going to grow up

thinking Beverly Crusher is, is like, you know, like they're going to grow up obsessed with Star Trek. Yeah, they're going to like. Totally wrong. Yeah, exactly. They're going to think

what Deanna Troi is, you know, she's just a con artist. That's what we're going to grow up thinking because they're gonna think what deanna troy is you know she's just a con artist that's that's we're gonna grow up thinking because they don't understand what deanna troy does yeah it's tricky sorry i don't know doesn't understand they don't understand the impact deanna troy had on a young man who was it someone said to me that if you watch the show if you watch the show with in mind the idea that deanna troy has tricked her way on board and actually doesn't do anything and is just like has figured out how to con the captain that it improves the show endlessly oddly enough sci-fi is re-showing the entire series from start to finish and I've been doing

that and it's ridiculous a number of times Deanna Troi was just meant to be sort of like the you know the like well she's she was like a doctor right she was meant to be sort of like that's Beverly Crusher like the feel good I know but she was she was like like it's like a psychologist or something but you know what she's meant to be like but she's not funny and all she says is the most obvious fucking thing possible every time every time there's a i watched this episode i think it was called like god what the hell was it called it's like a time slip episode so it starts with them playing cards like Beverly, Worf, and Data, and Riker.

And they're playing poker and they gradually, over the course of the episode, they start to have this strong sense of deja vu to the point where they know what card is coming next. And they realize- Oh, is that the one where the Enterprise

like blows up and then- All hands on the ship! Yeah, and as soon as it blows up it restarts and they're back it's like a groundhog day or something it's like that and it was a really really really good episode this is deanna troy's this is what she does in every episode when the enemy ship right so they're at this this weird thing and it's not an enemy ship the ship comes out of the void and starts heading towards them just before that happens when everything's getting really tense everyone's like whoa what's gonna happen she says to the captain we should get out of here we need

to leave now i'm like yeah no shit we need to leave now i'd say to get the fuck off the bridge if you're not gonna do something useful get out like she's useless and the number of times they bump into an alien and they look like captain picard no we haven't seen the people you're looking for and she leans over and she's like i sense that he's lying diana a child could sense that he's lying what is your job on this vessel will you stop beamer out wharf beamer into deep space and fucking leave her there useless she's a con artist only job the only thing she needs to worry about is looking great and you know what she does it effort effortlessly she just turns up you said that i struggled with it because actually she does it effortlessly i can feel the juices flow i'm

thinking about diana i'm thinking about her starfleet uniform and i'm just the juices are flowing oh yeah i can't even pronounce words anymore marina i'm feeling lightheaded you know like that's it it doesn't matter what she says nobody's even listening they're just staring at her boobs damn now i'm just thinking about her boobs it's the it's the shelf of uniform that exists so well shaped like but honestly where the boobs are then the uniform is is like a shelf between them like a bridge her uniform is unique because it's kind of like velvety. Did you notice?

She'd be soft to the touch. Different color. Soft and warm. It's like a catsuit almost. Oh, my God, yeah. I bet you she smells amazing. Well, two things, right? If you think Deanna Troy's boobs are a big deal,

then Seven of Nine is obviously next level stuff. It's too masculine. That is unbelievable. I'm thinking of the episode now where diana and beverly crusher are working out in their lycra in front of a big mirror they're doing like aerobics exercises whilst the conversation goes on the actresses must have said to the director come on dude like just leave this to the slash fanfic writing nerds out there on the early internet do we really have to do this he's like yeah it'd be interesting to see like like a history of like the ratings of that show though because like who knows maybe

they actually did that on purpose there's like yeah we need a bit of a boost it's yeah maybe it's the christmas period we want more people to favor the show's we're gonna have to do an exercise scene ladies we're gonna have to go big titties titties i want every episode titties yeah i know like a lot of people are like oh you know princess leia and her metal bikini that was like my that was my first crush for me i was like yeah whatever you know princess leia and metal bikini that's pretty cool but man deanna troy and close second beverly crusher every time yeah wow i don't know why it's like she's like a total erica rolenenyak on baywatch that was

my first poster girl like i actually had a poster of her that i got in a magazine and i was like good god this woman is perfect she her bosoms maybe even topped diana troy's and i'm not even kidding and i look at pictures of erica relenyak now man and it's like when you look at the things that you wore in the 80s obviously this doesn't necessarily apply to you guys I look at the clothes I used to wear when I was a little kid, and I think, holy shit, that is so weird. And now I look at Erika Olenek, who was on Baywatch, the same way. I'm like, god damn, she is so weird looking. See, I'm a bit younger than you.

And for me, we went through this previously, on one of the streams recently. I was talking about this with Tom, and mine was Willow from Buffy. Right. So, Alice in Hanukkah. I was a bit too old for buffy yeah i didn't really like remember alicia silverstone from clueless yeah oh man she was fucking like i don't know what she looks like now and christina applegate on uh married with children i think actually

christina applegate was like what was like my first in order to cool this conversation down i don't it's getting red hot i going to take a cold shower, gentlemen. I got to take a break for about 20 minutes. Give me 20 minutes, guys. Muting the microphone. I just forgot I left the oven on. The worst thing about Deanna Troi is her mother. Oh, God.

Any episode that she is in is an absolute disaster. I'm recording. She's retracting into my body. I think the thing about her was the actress who played her was Gene Roddenberry's wife. Really? And also, I think she does all the voices for the computers in all the Star Treks. Oh, God. So all the computers are done by that same woman.

Does she do the door swish sounds too? Because that is totally somebody just going going she does the phasers man your pew game is a plus today period that was some good pew you like that pew noises you no alicia silverstone and then who yeah christina applegate she was oh jennifer connelly in labyrinth oh yeah i was i was at that age at that point she was slightly older than me she was she was like to me at that point that that my friend's older sister who i had a crush on that was the the kind of vibe that there was like she was this unobtainable remember beautiful very slightly older girl remember cindy

crawford like when she was like oh my god like first hit the scene holy fuck that video oh my god she was on the beach who is that was that like chris chris isaac isaac that's right she's on the beach and i'm just like all right this is just i'm just gonna loop this for the rest of my life oh my god that's a great song it's a pretty good song cindy crawford was fucking great oh shit you know what else is amazing too like kate moss like in her heyday but like kate moss is still like pretty good looking she looks great yeah and she's too skinny she looks like an addict she yeah she is a little bit yeah but like if you put her up with like a younger model now she still like holds her

own which is uh-huh which is you know impressive actually because She still like holds her own, which is, you know, impressive actually. Because she's like mid-40s now. I think she's 42 or something. Let's Google it. Yeah, you Google that. She is 42. How did you know that, P-Flax? I may be the president and secretary of the Kate Moss fan club.

Well, she's from London and P. Flax is from London. Yeah, we're both from London. We know each other. Yeah, you guys probably bump into each other all the time. Oh, you're from London? Do you know Kate Moss? Yeah, I do. Yeah, she's great.

You live in England? Do you know Simon Cowell? Do you know Piers Morgan? He lives in America. Yeah, those are like the two breakaway English guys, or what they were now. It's like James Corden is the new one, isn't he? Fucking asshole he is. Have you ever seen the carpool karaoke it's pretty funny it's like

i just don't get it the thing is you don't want it to be funny you're not willing to accept he's not funny i find it funny though i like i laugh a little bit when i watch i don't like james corden on principle though and therefore I find it very difficult to watch his stuff even though I appreciate that it is probably funny. I don't mind him. If someone you don't like tells you a joke, it's hard to find it funny. Laughing at someone's joke is a personal thing. Yeah, I suppose. Like you're opening

up your legs and you're letting them in to your body. I mean, sorry, I was just thinking about... Deanna again. Oh, no, Christensen and Deanna. I mean, you're opening yourself up to uh to that anyway yeah yeah wow jesus christ let's not go back down that it's still early isn't it it's only lunchtime it's lunchtime you're allowed to talk like this uh it's too early to feel this sexy though like that's usually like to be fair i wake up feeling sexy spend the rest of the day

in the same state when i wake up and i've got mustard stains all over my wife beater shirt do you feel sexy when you wake up i do i wake up thinking that i must you know in the movies when they have like you have the couple the night before doing all the sexy stuff and then it cuts to the next morning and they wake up and they're always in some cool pose they're not just like jaw slack droolol everywhere, sort of hair all messed up. And there's like still got one sock on and stuff. In the movies, they always wake up with that cool, the sheets are just so, and the morning breeze is in the, you know, perhaps there's a bowl of flowers or a vase or whatever on the side of the bed and the flowers just moving in the breeze.

And then one of them rolls over and says, last night was incredible. You can almost smell the room. It's so picturesque. Yeah. So I wake up every morning and i go to miss ergo i love and she goes oh you stink because it's like you know haven't had a shower yet she's like oh your breath is awful blah blah blah and then the kids jump into bed and they say oh my god no and she's like get away from me that's one thing i don't suffer from is bad

breath in the morning it's only in the morning i i have i have very neutral breath at all times no i'm not a smelly person don't have bad breath but for some reason first thing in the morning um but my kids say too daddy your breath smells like jesus give me a sec love i haven't brushed my teeth yet yeah one thing i will say about me though is that i get really really sweaty balls oh my god probably stink if you were to smell them holy shit sips fucking tmi i'm fred honestly like the way i imagine pflex waking up right now because you were late to recording this podcast right with that you're obviously you're kind of semi-hung you're not only hung over but i imagine you waking up like on the sofa okay no it's kind of a dirty sort of green sofa with like a load of beer bottles on the table i'm not living in an outback

dangling out from under like a dirty blanket you just got like a mountain of empty pizza boxes yeah yeah yeah there's like a slice a slice of pizza like on your face you wake up you peel it off your face you look at it and you go oh that's still good i'll eat it then you have a little snack of it and then you like slot like slovenly like get up off the sofa do a line of coke oh my god geez yeah like go into the fridge open it up pull out another can a bottle of beer you know open it with like your teeth yeah and just you know i don't even need alcohol and drugs to be a train wreck in the morning like it just comes so naturally to me yeah it's i'm right there i'm like a fucking disaster area in the morning at least my breath doesn't stink but holy shit like

and the worst thing is now that i work in the garage like i don't really do much about it i kind of roll out of bed eat some alpin and then just come out here like stinking it up big time like my whole routine has changed like i shower like around dinner time now instead of like first thing in the morning and stuff because dinner time show because who fucking cares you know like i don't even go out see i was slightly worried that this would be what happens to you you know because previously you obviously had the office at the quite nice place in liberation square in jersey yeah that's right hell yeah and post the code j e 2 4 3 j yeah well you can say that because you're not there anymore no that's true i'm not there anymore yeah uh so obviously you used to have a it was did you walk in it's

like about a half an hour walk isn't it it was like a like yeah 20 25 minute walk quite a pleasant walk along the front you walk along the um the sea it's not like raining like crazy yeah it's good yeah and so you walked in you you went. It was quite a professional office that you worked in. You worked at these sort of... But also you worked right at the end of quite a few winding corridors, so you had to walk past a lot of professional people. That's right, yeah. And all of my neighbors eventually moved away from me because I was too loud.

So you put your suit on, you get your briefcase, you walk into work, you're fixing your tie. Well, I didn't have a suit and a briefcase. You go upstairs, you say, Hi, Janine. Hi, Bill. Hi, bill hi mike hi chris like all the people they always they like they're holding their cups of tea and they pass you in the corridor and you drink a bit slugger yeah good morning another hit video last night i see oh great job and then they you know then you you nod at them you smile you sit down at your desk and you start tight like grinding away tap it away and then um they you know then you you nod at them you smile you sit down at your desk and

you start tight like grinding away tap it away and then at five o'clock ding ding ding oh yeah to go home you stride out by janeen yeah then i slide down a slide onto the bus back off along you stride and happily home back in hey honey i'm home yeah uh oh your dinner's ready oh then the kid comes along hey daddy look at your picture of you and it's like you know it's that's how your life was now yeah uh you wake up on the sofa uh now the spanish flea just plays constantly in the background while i just mosey about my lazy ass day doing shit like all out of order and nobody likes me anymore because I'm lazy and a piece of shit I just sit in my garage all day being angry at wow recently wow and now it's it's really depressing I miss working in an office in a funny way when when

yeah you get to know people in there like when I come down to visit you guys I'm always like this is great like you actually there's just other people to talk to and work with all around and they're all like-minded and you're all i know but the thing is i always i'm always like that at first and then if i'm there for a couple of days i'm like wow this would really do my head in after a while why it would really grind me down i don't know like it's just being around too many people all the time. Like, it's just too much. You're an isolationist. You're like a hermit. No, it's not even that. I think it's just like, well, maybe I am actually.

Yeah. Maybe I'm just an old hermit. That's fine. You're welcome. You can take the hermit out of Canada, but you can't take the hermit out of the hermit. He's a hermit, all right. Take hermit out of the puppet. No, I don't know.

Like, I've worked in offices before, and there's definitely a honeymoon period with offices. Okay? Like, you start in an office, and you're like, this is great. You know, everybody's good. Everybody's really competent at their jobs and stuff and nice, and everything works well. And then you're there for a couple of months and you start noticing the cracks you know things don't start to like not add up you're like wow this person is actually a bit of a jabroni you know this stuff doesn't actually work as well as

it yeah first seemed to it's a bit of a mess you know there's a lot of politics there's a lot of like obstructive assholes preventing me from just doing my job and stuff and like it becomes like that i'm not saying that like every office is like that but certainly the offices i've worked in have been like yeah the problem i have is people get sick of me after a couple of days because i never shut up and i'm in the office i'm always talking i'm distracting people i appear to be having the office clown i appear to be having far too much fun. So I'm the guy, like, if I'm in the office, I'm doing my job, but I'm also having fun and having a laugh and talking to people while I'm doing it. And you're not supposed to do that.

No, you're meant to look like, like, I never understood looking busy. Yeah, you're meant to be going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Tapping away. But I'm not like that. I'm like, work done. Hey, guys, did you watch so and so last night how about that sports team in that game of sports ah you know that kind of thing and the boss the boss will have their like glass office with a little blind and i'll just see them peeking through the

blind looking at me thinking he's having too much fun he's obviously doing fuck all he should be miserable that's the whole purpose of employment yeah we don't we don't want we don't want chatters here we want fucking seat warmers here that's what we want we don't want them talking to each other you know we got to make it look like we got a lot of people under us doing really important shit that is definitely the psychology of it is the workplace and it's a real shame and it's something you have to actively fight against in your life you know i think you can't though because they even they'll just fire you yeah because they don't want somebody who's going to speak up they just want like the last two jobs i've had i got i got uh i got let go well because they were like you look like you're not doing much i was like well you're wrong well that's an art form no it's an art form to um

appear you shouldn't these toilets don't clean themselves guys it's a little bit like scotty in star wars star trek right where it's got he comes back for an episode of tng yeah and he says he was caught in the uh never tell the captain yeah exactly how long it's gonna take you don't say two hours laddy you say it and when he says get it done sooner you get it done i think scotty did more work than jordy did though what are you mad jordy was a fucking slacker like he just sat down there and polished his hairband no visor thing how dare you he didn't do shit he does and then he spent the rest of the time just thinking about how he was gonna like creep on girls in the holodeck you're thinking about riker that is one of the biggest things i actually think that

is not addressed at all in in star trek because most of these the tng was done before the internet right and the amount of times people have private holodeck programs with literally sex fantasies featuring other members of the cast and no one thinks that's weird it's really weird it's like so common and even weirder when somebody bursts into the holodeck and they find out that you're actually having sex with virtual them and it's like i didn't authorize that yeah that would be fucking weird the permission form for that one you know riker's just in there getting it on big time with like picard riker's got us you know riker's got a simulation where all the women on the ship have to fuck him on the holodeck.

Like he's fucking them all. And they're all going, oh, Riker, you're the best. And Captain Picard would be like, bridge to Riker, where are you? Just fucking every single person on the ship, Captain, in the virtual world. And meanwhile, Picard's in there riding a pony around a fucking Welsh field. He'd be reading a book in the holodeck. I've got a simulation where I sit calmly in a room and Reading a book. He'd be reading a book in the holodeck. I've run into a simulation where I sit calmly in a room

and read a book. And Riker's like having a fucking cocaine and hookers party on the holodeck. Yeah. Yeah. He's like that guy

from Die Hard. You know, like the first Die Hard? The beard? Remember that guy? Alice. Alice. Yeah.

Hans. Bubby. I'm your white knight. Bubby. Yeah. Sorry. I know that film a bit too well it's like classic it's like the ultimate ultimate christmas movie isn't it yeah i love it it's on around christmas so uh what else have we been doing i went to james com in uh germany james com is that james cordner's own convention james yes uh we all have to worship and kiss pictures of him oh it was

magnificent it was a nice nice convention oh good uh i had a good time there was a couple of good stories you didn't really actually do much at gamescom though didn't you you like you went out into cologne and went to art galleries and yeah i've day one we went uh me and duncan and shin went um we had to do this but we didn't have to. We wanted to do this thing to see the new South Park game. Right. The Fractured But Whole. The what? Excuse me?

Nice. The Fractured But Whole. What's that? It's a South Park game. Very much like the original South Park game, except for they developed this Oculus Rift thing to go over your nose called the Nodulous Rift, where basically when you fart in the game,

it farts in your face. And it's basically an elaborate troll come up that's been invented by Trey and Matt and I guess the marketing people to get a load of journalists and just fart in their face. And so, man, it was pretty funny though. So we went there

and before we went there, I was, Duncan and shitting. You know that thing where you're out with your friends and you're like, oh, where shall we eat? And they're like, I don't know. Where do you want to eat? I don't know. Where do you want to eat? They were doing that.

So I found a place on TripAdvisor that did really good herring. And when I suggested it to them as a joke, they said, oh, that sounds fine. And I was like, oh, my God. Okay, great. Let's get them to eat herring. So I kind of wanted to do it as a troll, really. And so we went there, sat down, and I ordered, like, the most stinky herring I've ever, you know, I've ever imagined. And I felt so excited.

I was the last to order. Does herring smell like kippers? Yeah, it's a lot like, it's a strong tasting bode fish. God damn. And anyway, the way it was ordered was that, you know, Duncan shouldn't have got these little moustache-y beard things, and, you know, they were just going to get herring all over them. Oh, man. So anyway, they hated me after that. We went away from that.

Just kind of Duncan was like, he couldn't get the smell of herring out of his, like, fingers and stuff and out of his beard. And then we went to the South Park thing where they strapped the thing to your face and fart on your face but the way the way it works is it sprays this horrible farty liquid onto your face and honestly like it it would not leave the smell would not leave for about i'd say about 36 hours oh my god it was horrific so you guys just smelled like farts the whole time you were at Gamescom?

Some people were like retching and being sick. We had the combination of fishy herringy smell plus fart smell. We didn't smell like farts. We kind of could smell farts. All the time. For about over a day afterwards. It was absolutely foul. for about over a day afterwards it was it was absolutely foul um and the worst thing that was after all that they lost the video so they they gave us a usb drive with our video on it but it

was empty oh my god i don't even know if there's gonna be a video of that oh my god i recorded it on my phone so that's that's really high quality shit yeah so i don't know what i'm gonna do with that i might put it out some way if i can tidy it up but yeah that was do you know what it was it was a it was a day to remember is all i'm saying but holy fucking shit like i would do not recommend ever doing that again or at all nice the other two days i did not do the fart thing i didn't actually go to gamescom so we went to gamescom for a day walked around looked up the games me and doug had ended up playing physical card games more though because there's a gwent uh hot witcher the witcher thing yeah yeah making gwent as a digital collectible card game and so we played the physical version

of that because they were they were so booked up when me and doug went over there they were like yeah we can't fit you on until seven so me and duck were like oh hang on we'll just crack over one of your free polish beers and play the physical version because they had this massive wooden gwent table there that they've been touring around the world with with really nice sets of cards so we played a few games of that had a beer and then we went and played some other games physical card games it was really weird actually so we didn't play a single video game at gamescom it turns out you don't like video games much i loved it i was thinking do you know we should maybe go to the board game convention they have every year because they have one in germany called i think it's called spiegel or something because you see

yeah that's what it's called yeah if you see it on the front of these board games that you buy you know it's like spiegel winner yeah or something like that board game in germany man yeah they made germany made the settlers of katan they did and carcasson and a ton of other still a national pastime for them well this is something i really want to do i really want to make a board games channel or something like that and also i feel like i want to play more sort of live action because we do games night which is great yeah but those are very simple games aren't they're very simple but we're starting to do longer form ones that are you know maybe like longer like three quarters an hour an hour and i feel like if we're going

to do those videos we can't put them all on the main play longer games better to put the first 15 minutes on the main channel then if people like it they can go and watch another hour of it or maybe a second game of it elsewhere yeah rather than you know having hours and hours of stuff on the main channel that doesn't really feel very good so and also i'd like to do sort of strange stuff like i think if we went to spiegel i'm not even sure what's called spiel and something like that um i think spiegel means talk i don't even spiel and is is game steven spiegelberg spiel and spiegel is a newspaper spiegel oh yeah it is i can't remember what it's called it's called something like that anyway it's in right do you know what the spiegel means the mirror so spiegel is a mirror oh Oh, right.

It is a German newspaper, so it's definitely not that. Anyway. I'm talking to the man in the Spiegel. I'm excited to do that. So I've been thinking about that. Thank you, Sid. No problem. I thought I'd fill you all in quickly with that, just in case you had anything to say about it.

But linking to that i did actually play quite a lot of this game on steam this week called jewel list jewel list oh yeah i saw kibler playing that he's do he did a couple of sponsored streams of it but he he was saying that it's actually very good and he liked it it's very like yeah it's a bit hearthstoney isn't it it's very hard to own the model i mean it feels so hard so you know you start off you get one mana per turn you spend them on creatures that have three four when they hit each other their lives go down you have buffs and burn spells and all this and so do you rate it is it good i've played it a little bit i i don't think i can i don't think i can get into it too much but i i like the idea i like the pixel art i like the feel of it.

And so who knows? Maybe I'll come back to you next week. There's the Elder Scrolls. That's right. Yes. As well. That's interesting. That's a little bit like Hearthstone,

but it's on two sides. That's right. There's like lanes in it, right? Yeah. There's two, there's a left and a right side of it. And obviously if you play a taunt minion in one lane, you won't be able to taunt from the other lane, you see.

So, yeah, that's an interesting mechanic. I don't think that game will be popular in Germany, or it shouldn't be anyway. What, Elder Scrolls? No, the Duelist. Duelist, oh, maybe not. But it sounds like Jew-list when you say it. Oh, I see.

You know what I mean? It's a little close to home. Let's play the Jewelist. Not again. No, we spoke of this. Oh, fuck me. Sorry. No, I've heard of it.

It looks pretty cool, actually. I might check it out. I feel like when it comes to all of these card games, Gwen, The Elder Scrolls 1, Jewelist, all of these games, and also, to some extent, other games uh gwen the elder scrolls one jewelist all of these games and also to some extent other games that blizzard have done extremely well when they're coming into a world where hearthstone exists i feel like they're gonna really struggle to ever compete it feels like people are thinking holy crap look how much hearthstone is making look how many people it's got in yeah look how big it is let's make one let's they think that there's a big market for it but you know i feel like it's it's never gonna be that you know

world of warcraft still exists it still does really really well with a subscription model and it's the only one it sure it's got microtransactions honestly microtransactions have you seen the because they do deus ex yeah i tweeted about it the other day oh by the way speaking of tweeters i got my verification tick oh nice i'm very happy about congrats holy shit man congrats and now when you tweet people take someone at ti watched the no i'm serious yeah someone at twitter watched the international and verified you yeah i mean probably what happens i was very happy cool but i tweet i was tweeting about that the other day the whole uh fucking yeah deus ex the deus ex single transaction like someone was like if you don't like it just don't don't buy it yeah but that sets a really shitty

precedent of hey put this in the game and then more companies put it in the game and then you don't have a choice yeah you gotta look at battlefield one the battlefield one ultimate pass costs 109 pounds wow that's like the game and like early access to maps i mean what early access to maps for fucking real yeah like make a fucking game put maps in it and fucking release it like what is what is this like what's going on yeah why do we have to pay extra for maps and shit and what happens so dumb you can't find those maps. Like, if you think about that Star Wars game that came out, what was it called?

Battlefront? Star Wars Battlefront or whatever. Yeah. That came out, and apart from the fact that it was a fun enough game, like, it was okay. It was a little fast-paced. They could have slowed it down. It was just a bit fucking let's run at the speed of light, but whatever.

That came out, and then if you didn't have the extra maps you couldn't play those you know those extra those extra maps but the thing is because so few people bought the more expensive package yeah if you had bought it there was no fucker playing those maps anyway there's no games yeah it was literally you could not find a full server because nobody bought the extra thing it was really they have to think of that shit when they come up honestly these these these models like pay payments are so kind of weird and confusing now and i i think it's partly just exploitative they just they just charge whatever they can get away with and and and since everyone's doing it they're like well if everyone else is doing it we have to do it too but they you know but yeah but they're looking at models that work and and and then making versions of that that don't like you know there's microtransactions in dota you know like there's there's microtransactions in wow and i think those models work well because they don't

actually take away from the game you get the full game you're not paying for extra features in the game you're just paying as a fan for cosmetic things that you know like i mean it's a way of and that this was one of the things about wow that i've always thought was interesting is that people like to show off the shit they've got and other people in the game have to look at that stuff so if you've got a fancy cosmetic in dota especially like an unusual one a rare one when you're playing the game everybody sees it and they're like oh wow that's so cool and you're like yeah it's my my cool little thing here what do you think you know that that element of it people love that yeah like being able to to show off something that

they've got it's like showing someone your comic collection or something yeah and it taps it taps into the this like you know traditional you know a lot of a lot of people who play card games like collected yeah cards when they were younger and stuff like that. And they wanted all the hologram cards and stuff. You want to have the cool collection. It's fine. That is a tangible thing that people enjoy and people are willing to spend money on. And as long as you have the game and all of its features, cool.

Who cares? It's an optional thing. In this Deus Ex thing, you're buying ammo and a gun. It's like consumable things. So you buy them and that's that. You're buying ammo and a gun. It's like consumable things. So you buy them and that's that. You're buying shit in-game. It's just fucking lame, man. It's so awful.

It's pretty lame. Yeah. I think the season pass thing as well, I think there's ways of doing that where it makes sense. Like Fallout 4, when it came out, you could get the season pass, right? And they gave you a vague idea and of the dlc that was coming out you know it was like there's going to be five dlcs they're

going to come out every month for like the last five months of whatever 2016 or something like that if you get the season pass now you get them all like you know and and all together it works out slightly cheaper if you're just going to buy them all anyway. And if you're a big Fallout fan, you know you're going to play that. Because you know you're going to want to play and get some more value out of the game, right? And then, you know, and that's a fair enough way of doing it.

I think that that's fine. But if you don't get the season pass, you just have the option of picking and choosing the DLC that you want to get. And they vary. You know, in Fallout 4, there's DLC that's heavy on story, like one one of them and then there's one coming out next week that again is like a new like area with story and factions and stuff and it's you know you probably

get a lot more value out of that yeah you know some of the season pass stuff where it's like you could get exclusive access to a new map two weeks before anyone else and stuff and it's like really like is that actually worth anything like anybody fucking cares if they don't have it how the fuck are you gonna get a game like that's the thing it'll be an empty server it's really dumb like it just it just seems so fucking half-baked like i i don't know i hate it i i don't agree with that at all to change the topic kate middleton yay or nay well i'm gonna firmly say yay just popped up on my twitter feed she's got the best hair seriously she's got sweet

hair man she just she gave birth and she walked out five minutes later and her hair was like fucking top notch amazing how good breeding sips it gets fucking sweaty in there and like there's a lot of yelling and stuff too a lot of yelling that's gonna frizz your hair up but not her amazing she's very regal she is very royal yeah she makes you make a cracking queen she really will do you think you think william on the on the other end of things is is a heartthrob for women no i think he's just a good lad you think he's a good guy yeah and he's a he's bold so i respect him even more he's doing uh yeah he's doing i don't think he would like to people i don't think he's just a good lad you think he's a good guy yeah and he's a he's bold so I respect him even more he's doing he's doing

I don't think he would like to people I don't think he would like to be called bold he's he's bold he's aggressively resisting boldness

doesn't matter he's losing the battle I don't know is he actually resisting it though like he seems to be embracing he's just he's kind of real short

he's gone he knows what's up he's not trying to grow it out he's not hiding it he's clearly bold on top he's got a bit at the sides he's going for a picard doesn't give a hoot he's going for he's going for the picard yeah good for him yeah good for him good luck to him good luck oh my goodness so what else have you guys been doing have you been playing any games you've been looking at you've been what you've been doing playing fallout a lot i've been playing

i started playing hearthstone a lot again recently as well been enjoying it though not like playing it the way i used to just like just fucking around doing your own trying to build up my my collection you know i want to get like all the legendaries so that i can make even wackier fun decks to play around with so yeah i'm just enjoying life between ranks 20 and 15 right now just just fucking around and having a good time i'd play like five or six games a day it's pretty nice i don't like get too angry except for like when there's like a tremendous amount of bullshit involved yeah i quite like doing the quests i built up a shitload of coins and bought the expansion with um just daily quests and that felt that felt good to do yeah it's nice yeah well

done yeah yeah i've been i've been playing two games above all i did a bit play a bit of rimworld yesterday which was fun oh nice i love that game right but um dota 2 obviously when the whole two weeks we were away we didn't have access to computers to play so i just had to watch other people play for two weeks so came back and immediately started playing new hero came out underworld came out or pit lord so he's out um on the 20th he came out two days ago holy crap oh wasn't he meant to come out like months ago? No, they always save it for TI. It was like a big reveal.

They had like a VR version of him on the stage. It has been a very, very long delay since New Heroes have come out. There's been a big brew up for him to come out. Because I remember when I was playing, they were talking about it. I mean, they used to be adding New Heroes relatively regularly. And now it's been very, very slow. When was the last hero added before well it would have been techies techies ti4 that would have been a whole year between no ti4 guys

ti4 techies is ti4 yeah yeah oh shit so it's been two years yeah yeah so it's like a big deal everyone's expecting pit lord at ti5 no ti6 but ti6 they announced a new hero wow brand new hero oh so you've got pit lord and now there's this monkey king that's coming out and they had like it's this huge reveal it was incredible actually you're in the there's like 17 000 people in the arena and this hush descends and the stage goes dark and these guys run onto the stage dressed as like monkey tiger things and they're like dancing around they're doing all kung fu with swords and everything everybody's thinking well this is nice but it's in keeping with the theme they've had over the week

of like drums and things so we just thought it was like a dance thing right and then all of a sudden in the middle of the stage this face starts to appear on the led stage screen it's like this weird face of a hero that you clearly don't recognize and we realize collectively that there's a new hero like a brand new hero in the game and people were losing their fucking minds good like they're just screeching and then all of a sudden they played this source filmmaker video with him in it showing off some of his powers and sort of you know telling his story and everything it's fantastic absolutely fantastic everybody was very excited so he's coming out uh i would i would give it a good few months but uh apparently there's like a big new

patch coming out called the journey or the path or something. He's going to be in that. Yeah. So it's kind of big. It's a big deal. A brand new hero in Dota. This is a big, this is a big thing.

Well, I mean, there were a couple more with it. I mean, we had Oracle, but they weren't like the big ones. Like everybody was waiting on techies. And then you had pit Lord because those are like the big time.

I mean oracle and winter wyvern are not heroes to get excited about the big thing about this is that the these heroes are all of the ones from the original dota yeah we're now we've shipped them all that's it i mean previously you've got to understand almost all of the mechanics in the game as well were repeatable in the old dota so i mean we've got to understand that warcraft 3 was the engine that dota was built on originally and all of the abilities and all the effects were you know that's 10 year old more than 10 year old game oh god yeah and all of these came out in like 2001 yeah and so a lot of other games that have used a newer engine like even heroes of new earth and

league of legends these are old games too now by you know by any measure i mean even dota 2 is you know came out in 2010 was the alpha yeah you know we're talking about fairly old games here but what i'm saying is that any all the dota 2 heroes have yet to use mechanics that the new engines would allow um so so monkey king is supposed to be a hero which will impact the game in a way that we haven't hopefully haven't seen before so new heroes from now should be providing innovative effects yeah um so i for one want to see a hero a little bit like flux from uh heroes of new earth which was a really fun like a sieging that pushed you like a pushed you back pushed heroes back and forth so you could you could switch between attack right away or pull

them towards you stuff like that like fun fun he was a fun hero so yeah i i thought for a while that they could do new like you said new heroes because they're not limited by the crappy sort of abilities of i say crappy obviously but i mean the relatively speaking they're not restricted anymore they're not restricted anymore. They're not like, how do we make this work with the mod and the code? And we can't do this. We can't do that. And like you said, like a bunch of the mechanics in the game are literally leftovers from what they had to do as a workaround to get the mod to work.

And we still have them. So I guess that they could do completely new heroes that do all kinds of weird new stuff. Yeah. It would be good to, you know know liven up the game a bit it just feels like for me dota like sometimes stands still a bit too much and doesn't get enough additions when when they could be adding a lot more um things you know heroes to the game i hope they don't you know i hope the game was a lot fresher back in kind of a couple years ago. No, they had new items. It takes a while. The balance of the game is very fragile.

And I think that it's very easy to tip it and ruin it. And they don't, they shouldn't do that. Who's the broken, overpowered hero of the day now? At the moment, I think Mirana is right up there. Yeah? She's a very slight nerf recently, but she got an Aghs upgrade. That means that when you get Aghanim Scepter on her, you know her Q,

the starfall that makes the arrows go pew! She gets that for free as a passive ability every 8 seconds. What the fuck? What you do is you buy a blink dagger, you blink in, ethereal blade someone, press Q, you get your

starstorm that you just cast, the passive starstorm, plus the Aetherial Blade damage, and then you can dag on them if you want, and they just blow up. Like, insta-kill any fucking hero. It's kind of ridiculous. That's crazy. That sounds broken.

Sounds fun, though. It was stupid. And they've slightly changed it. But yeah, there are a few heroes that you see a lot. But the game at the moment, like, everybody's agreed, this is the best it's been. Yeah, because wasn't the actual, like, the roster of heroes used in ti like wasn't it like like 125 out of 140 heroes were used or something three or four heroes that weren't used that's it yeah out of all of the

112 geez i can't even write it keeps changing that's pretty that's pretty good it's amazing it's impressive yeah i haven't played dota for for months well i'm kind of tempted to play it the original dota is still going and still patch it we're trying to patch in line but i think i can currently the original dota is at 6.83 do you remember that patch pflex 6.83 is that the troll sniper patch 6.83 yeah so that's that's where the original dota has been left in that hell maybe that's the worst place for it as well because it's just gonna die i think that's how you stop people playing dota 1 and force them to play dota 2 is leave it in the sniper patch for the next 10 years eventually they'll quit yeah not that anyone's still hanging around in dota 1 really oh yeah some people i

think it's still played in china quite a bit because the Source 2 engine is kind of Source 2 engine is quite PC intensive and probably in Russia as well but yeah Dota 1 will still run on pretty much any machine

right well that actually is all we've got time for in this podcast today because I have to go prepare for Insomnia 58 which is happening tomorrow

oh god nice and we also started late due to Pflex's jet lag but we will hopefully be back next it was a hangover Lewis next time don't dress it be back next time. It was a hangover, Lewis. Don't dress it up.

I was hungover. It's a hangover. It's a combination. He was hung. He was hung hard. Many problems. I'm around next week. Are you guys around?

Let me check my calendar. Hold on. Legion's out next week, so I'm around for sure. We'll talk about this afterwards. We can't promise you podcasts every week. That's all. All right. Love you all every week that's all all right love you all thanks love you bye