Triforce! - Triforce! #199.1: Pyrionopodopolous, revolutionary leader

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

Triforce! Epsiode 199.1! Pyrion-opodopolous roleplays as a Greek revolutionary leader in 1939, Lewis is getting into the festive spirit (in November) and we remember some incredibly disappointing toys from our childhood. Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Please play responsibly. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Triforce podcast. Oh my gosh, again? Thank you for joining us, it's a pleasure to be here. I will. Oh, what a nice day it is. Yeah. Welcome back, Sips.

Good morning. Thanks so much, yeah. Good morning to you too. I trust you're well. Hello, PFlex. Ah, good morning, sir. How are you? Jolly well, thank you so much for asking. Hello, PFlex. Ah, good morning, sir. How are you? Jolly well, thank you so much for asking.

Feeling good? Yeah. Man, what an interesting week it's been. Has it? Oh, yeah, so much has happened. Has it? Lots of things going on. Give me a rundown of the top three things that have happened this week.

A sentence for each, please. Okay. Number one. Number one. I don't't know it's a slow news week yes help me please something that did happen that i think all of us can uh can relate to not relate to i guess but it's certainly something that we should all appreciate all of all three of us for sure right uh low tax died um which is he actually did are you serious yeah he died i did rich kanker rich rich kanker the founder of something awful died yeah of what um they're not entirely sure apparently well they haven't announced it yet at least um he had not had a very happy last few years. No. Turns out he'd been kind of, well, not even kind of,

actually a cunt to several women. Yes. Wasn't a particularly nice guy. No. And had run up some big debts, and he had some problems with his back and opioids and all the rest of it. So it's not clear whether he killed himself or whether he died of natural causes.

I don't know, but he was not a well man in many ways. No's crazy i did not realize i didn't i didn't know i only heard this morning no but um pretty crazy yeah that's crazy yeah so there are so many people that i know through something awful yeah and obviously the yogscast wouldn't exist without it no um so yeah pretty crazy yeah that's nuts i still remember when he when he fought uwe boll in uh that's right gosh yeah that's like uh that was like kind of that was the original mean boxing match before you know the ksi logan paul stuff yes something awful was so far ahead of its time it was yeah i mean it produced a lot of uh it has produced a lot of fairly successful people that you wouldn't really think yeah came from like a lot of comedy writers and uh yeah

people who've been really funny on twitter and then gone on to be comedy writers and all the rest of it yes so yeah it's it's a it's a very interesting place the guys who made a tiny tower you know the mobile game they're they're goons as well it's crazy yeah yeah there's lots yeah i'm always bumping into people who are goons um yeah yeah it's it's uh it's a funny one there's quite a few guys that watch my stream that are goons and uh some of them were the ones that told me so yeah it's pretty pretty sad yeah that's wild gosh i mean yeah but you're right he was uh turned out he wasn't wasn't very nice to uh quite a number of people including partners and and stuff so it's uh it's a weird one for sure but yeah it's um what what a what a mix what a mix of emotions regarding news

yeah it's a real mix of emotions it's such a weird thing yeah that is weird that is definitely a weird one yeah yeah i wonder whether it started with boxing you boxing because a lot of people get this sort of head trauma and it leads them to be I don't know if there was any I think he just punched him once in the body and he was like whoa he's actually doing this he said it was going to be like a laugh and Uwe Boll came out and actually

hit him and I think which guy ran out of the ring he was like a sort of silent film actor wasn't he in the ring he it was like no well he sort of he was like a sort of silent film actor wasn't he in the ring because he he's sort of been told I think that

Uwe Boll was just gonna sort of you know make a show of it but you know he properly knocked him out on the first round properly

you know knocked him down a bunch of times really punched him a lot in the head yeah it was a bit overkill honestly

it was like a bit sad well he can definitely he can definitely accept as um sol, I suppose, that Uwe Boll is one of the worst directors that ever directed film. I think that was a big part of why they did the boxing match.

Yes, they did, because they made fun of him a lot on SA. There was a lot of internet beef. He was fighting all of his critics, wasn't he? Yeah, he was a fucking idiot. He fought lots of different people. It's the most pathetic response to criticism if you are called out for being bad at something and people say i don't like your movies i think they suck and tell you why to then say yeah well i will fight you it's a boxing rings and let's just take it to the mat i'm i know it's not it's

not refined but this is how they settled things back in the day. Let us find out who is right by fist fighting it out. Who is correct and who is wrong. This is how they used to do it, though. This is a tried, tested, and true method of resolving issues. From fucking medieval times. But even then, they never actually like... Some things just take longer to die off than others. Some people just want to resolve their issues like that.

You know, look at my neighbors in the parking situation. They've resorted to medieval times to resolve their... Right. I'm just joking. My neighbors have not ever assaulted each other that I'm aware of. But I was just trying to make the point that it happens all the time. Are they getting pretty close? No, not even really.

I saw my friend this morning, the good morning guy. Morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just said good morning to him again. Said good morning to me from like a mile away. It was good. Good morning.

Yeah. I'm trying to like expand it a little bit as well. So like I said good morning. It was like, oh, have a good day. It's a little dance now. Oh, have a good day. See you later or whatever, you know, just to like. Okay.

You know, just to spice it up. Try to open it up just to spice it up a little bit like an icebreaker to sort of make friends you know you don't want to get to know him though because you won't like it it'll ruin the good morning he's like four years old as well so it's be kind of weird to get to know him too oh well i thought i thought his dad i thought his dad no his dad is like an actual like older dad i don't know how are there some like rich older dads on jersey oh i'm sure there dad. I don't know how old. Are there some rich older dads on Jersey? Oh, I'm sure there are, yeah.

I don't know any of them. I've seen this as a sort of thing, that these older celebrities have kids sometimes quite late. Yes. And I'm always a little bit uncomfortable with it. Not from the reason, not from the angle that when they're a teenager, their dad's either gonna be in a wheelchair or just dead. But then again, these old billionaires, they're living forever.

It made me think of that thing from Silicon Valley where they have those blood boys. Have you heard of this? No, I've never heard of this, no. It's just like in Mad Max. Yeah, it's like a thing where there's this study done a long time ago in science which was one of these awful studies where they that is in science but it was it was where these people basically sewed like an old mouse to a young mouse and connected these sort of circulatory systems together right and the old mouse got like quite a lot more rejuvenated by

by the young by sucking the life out of the young mouse basically i suppose i don't know if it actually i think i don't know if it like aged the young mouse equivalently but um you know they didn't like meet in the middle become too middle-aged i don't feel like the young mouse should have to go through that though i mean old mouse never went through that so why should young mouse go through it you know what i mean well exactly well it's because of crazy scientists but i think the whole point of it was that there was this this idea they learned from it that the idea was that you could kind of extend the life of mice by giving them young blood right it was a thing that we saw a lot of happening

with old um lance armstrong you know when he was one of his main ways of cheating was that he would have these blood transfusions at every fucking rest stop you know either from his own blood that he'd kept his own stockpile of uh of drug of drug or some some young young 18 year old Hollywood boy blood which I think is what like these um so there was this you know Peter Thiel a big sort of famous entrepreneur there was a thing wasn't there about himiel, a big sort of famous entrepreneur. There was a thing, wasn't there, about him. I don't know whether he's one of the horrible ones, but he was reportedly spending $40,000 every quarter on an infusion of blood from 18-year-olds. And he also was taking these, like, hormone replacement pills and stuff.

Like, I'm fascinated by this life extension stuff right because you do see these hollywood celebrities i feel like maybe you're only uh obsessed with it because you're interested in doing it yourself i could see you with a blood boy one day you know but what don't you think it's so hot like when we were a kid i don't think that's hot no but you seem to think that it's hot somehow i don't know it's not hot i think it's it's incredibly fascinating i think also so barbaric right like when we were kids we assumed that by the time we were middle-aged or old there would be some sort of technologies invented like a pill that would keep you young or like preserve you and like but no it's all still like scalpels and like just taking people's blood and sticking it in you like vampiric.

This is like Roman fucking era stuff. Do you know what I mean? Of course it is. I don't know what people expected. Like what was going to change so dramatically? Bring in the blood, boy. I will bite his neck. The cars still aren't flying.

20 years past the due date and the cars still aren't flying so like what what the hell do people expect of course you're not going to have like uh you know like a piece of chocolate that uh is is enjoyable to eat and also keeps you young forever like it's always so fascinating that like we have that science has advanced so little in terms of age prevention yeah like even the hair transplant thing like every like hair transplants are all the rage you know um they are people are i will watch this thing about people going to turkey yeah getting them on the cheap because there's turkey is apparently the center i think it's because turkish men are very hairy so there's a it's easy

but no there's a lot of hair available. But no, there's a lot of stories about these young men going to Turkey and having these very aggressive kind of hair transplants. By aggressive, I mean aggressively positioned on their heads. You want hair transplant? You want hair transplant? They slap you. Here's your hair transplant. Go!

Please. And so they end up with having this like hairline. Come on, splint! Gah! Please! Yeah. And so they end up with having this, like, hairline. It's almost, like, halfway down their forehead. You know, they look like a kind of weird Goomba or something with, you know, reduced forehead size. And then, obviously, ten years later, they've got this sort of stripy line because they've had the front hair,

and then they've got a line where it's all continued to retreat. And then they've got another load of hair that's left at the back yeah it's a very sort of strange money well spent well done i know but it's such a people do these things to to stay young and there's this whole i mean it's women classically and you know they have to wear all the lotions and the vitamin d and all these things and things that thin their skin so they have to wear sun cream because they're using some weird retinol or something you know that has to that keeps the wrinkles from forming and you know they're using these from the age of about 12 you know because oh you know gotta make sure that you're always you know protect yourself that way when you're

80 you're not going to look like you know a normal woman you're going to look like some kind of bizarre stretched piece of parchment that's been you know left out in the sun it's so weird like i mean the the plastic surgery that we used to see definitely made people look like a ghoul you know you are you either look like a woman or you look like a ghoul that had plastic surgery and i guess it's better now because it's but it doesn't i don't you could always see it right you could see that plastic surgery face that they have it is so like it is so simple there's no there's no way as to look the cure for baldness was always like a wonderful idea right that there would be a pill for it but no it's just plucking the hair follicles out one by one yeah and putting them back in i want i want to i want to just say i i think there have actually been

quite a few advances but they're not applicable yet so i know that stem cells is a big thing because if i understand it and obviously i don't know what i'm talking about i'm just saying what i read you sound like you know what you're talking about so thank you thank you i'll keep listening at the so cells that replicate have like a bit on them that gradually burns down like the like the like a candle and you it stops making new cells okay there you go so when they get too short you stop being able to replicate new cells and and it all starts to go wrong and you get old and die so if you could reverse, you wouldn't have that problem. Especially if you could do it in people's brains, we wouldn't have people going senile and all the rest of it, the brain tissue wouldn't decay.

So I know that the fact they even know how this works and there are ways that they can do things and stem cell research is meant to be very promising, but there are a lot of holdups to... Really, it's really controversial too. It's unlikely to ever be supported. So America obviously being a big engine of medical technology, if they're holding it up, you're kind of relying on other people doing it.

And because of the nature of the American healthcare system, which is, in my opinion, very unfair, but it also does lead to a lot of money and investment in research and stuff. Because then you can make more money. These are companies now. They're not healthcare providers. They're businesses. No, no.

So they're looking to make money with all these treatments. I think stem cell research, again, I don't know what I'm talking about. But I seem to remember there being a lot of opposition by religion in America as well. Yeah, it's because basically you use fetuses yes like little babies but like you know tiny clumps of cells and usually if if uh religion uh has an issue with something in america it will hold it up right like it's yeah they're very powerful financially influentially with uh you know the government and stuff. Which is crazy because you would never get, I don't think there's been a president

yet who doesn't say that they're very religious and God and all that kind of stuff. It's kind of strange to me that that's the case in America which has specifically limited the effects of religion in the constitution and all that kind of stuff. Man, wouldn't it be weird if the

president just got up and he's like hail satan everybody i mean plenty of people think that is the case they think that uh you're a bunch of satanists and pedophiles and uh they eat the babies and they use your blood they use the blood to gain power and you can take over the world so this week i i finished reading a book that i'd started some time ago i don't know if you guys do this but i'll get a book i'll start reading it and then i'll get distracted by something else i'd love to say that i do this but god i haven't read a book i think the last books i read were the red rising books what which was how many years ago now like i never read anymore that's a long time i read stuff like on my on my tablet you know like i like i read like stuff on

reddit or news or whatever but i haven't read a book in so long sorry to derail no no i honestly i'm the same because i i if i'm at home i've got the computer so yeah there's all these games to play and waste my time with and fail to expand my brain in any way it's terrible but uh you know it's human nature i guess because i know lots of people that do it anyway it was about the the soe it's it's about the special i think it's special operations executive which was basically special operations executive you fucking cunts sorry no it would have been more like oh the special operations executive let's go over to france and give fritz a bloody nose it was like all right like the world war ii one yeah so not the modern day one where they're like like a hooligan you fucking can't

like yeah i don't think that's mi5 though i still don't think that's the csas yeah that's the sas yeah yeah no i'll slide him turn around another arab there slide him at all grab the little rocket and blow up their house yes yeah it's a no this this was like when they said uh you know uh my old my old oxford chum tom came to me and said we were going to have some jolly japes over in france dropped us into a field with about 50 tons of dynamite strapped to our backs and uh we started strapping it to the sheep because the germans loved eating lamb so we we thought... I know, yeah. They're two different styles, but I think both of them are effective

in different situations, right? Yeah, sometimes you want a bunch of hard nutters. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not being funny, but if I was like, lads, we've got this really horrible job. Man. You have to go in behind enemy lines,

kill a bunch of people, it's going to be fucking rough. And fucking unblock some drains while you're back there too, right right just shift a metric shit ton of gravel like that's in the way well so that's part of the mission yeah there's an enemy base you gotta take out then we want a new path putting around the side of the house need to build a new roundabout after we're done boys the fence the fence at the back is looking shoddy. Once you've done that, there's another safe house you want to take out. And then when you come back, that seat needs putting in.

It's been there for a week. These marble cameras aren't going to put themselves in. That's where you all get from. You fucking cunts. Yeah, fuck you. That doesn't make it into the book that they inevitably write afterwards. No. So then we killed their whole family and installed a lovely lino floor.

I said to Tom, where's the bloody hammer? He handed me the hammer and the nail went in. Bam! Nailed! Yeah, that's the dull chapters they cut out. Imagine the editor. Why have you put all this stuff about home improvements and DIY in here? It's just part of the job, you know.

You just get on with it. Just do what we're told you don't even think i love that you just drill i love that okay so sorry you were watching you were reading a book about the the um yeah so i mean special executive branch the special operations executive i think that yeah yes so which became like the mi5 and the cia and all these other things like came from this idea that they should have international networks of spies to keep an eye on and potentially disrupt enemy activities and stuff like that um so the soe was tasked all over the world they were everywhere like they dropped

them into france and like yugoslavia and all around there greece burma everywhere these all sound like prime locations to get a hair transplant while you're there. Oh, you could get a bloody good hair transplant. And that's thanks to the SOE. One thing we set up was hair transplant. All these poor old folks. We found the hairiest nations we could. No reason.

We just fancied it. We earmarked 10 very hairy nations, and that's where we set up operations for hair transplants. But it was crazy because they'd be given these missions like, go into the jungle, meet the hill tribe people that live there, get them on side, and then just give the Japs a bloody nose. And they would be sort of off there for months, living off the land or very basic supply drops that the planes would come in and drop to them.

It was bonkers. It was like this unseen side of the war. I don't know how much difference it would have made, but it certainly kept them, you know, them busy. I mean, because the Japanese were obviously trying to push through Burma and then potentially all the way to India, because that would have been a huge get for them. They could have beaten the English or the British in India and taken over India. That's a huge population and resource and everything that they, if they had China and India and the whole of Southeast Asia under Japanese rule obviously that's like that's an empire that that was their goal the problem is it's really rough anyone that's played Hearts of Iron Fork can attest to this oh yeah it's also

rough in reality miserable yeah going from from China all the way through to india it's just like the worst infrastructure the roughest terrain yeah and it doesn't matter how many factories and stuff you build you're always brutal you're always behind yeah so and you've also got an awful lot of and this would have been back in the 40s i don't know what it's like today but this would have been back when there were still basically tribes of people not living as sort of natives as it were but tribes of people living in the deep jungle and in the hills and those areas in places like like burma which is now myanmar i think and and all the rest of it that were sort of you know opposed to anybody fucking coming in and but the brits went in and said like look we want to kill the japanese as well are you with us and they were like absolutely

so it was like making friends with these guys for this sort of resistance style fighting. And it was just unbelievable. And the stories that they tell are just incredible. Absolutely incredible. It's a classic thing from, I mean, Lawrence of Arabia was that, wasn't it? Right.

You know, very famously went out into the hill tribes of, was it Iran or Iraq? I'm not sure where it would have been somewhere maybe maybe the turks i can't remember yeah but there was certainly this this certainly it was a very a classic thing that we've done you know people knew about him you know during you know he because he wrote the book after the first world war it was a very like standard thing to to drop these sort of upper class brits behind enemy lines sort of you know diplomatically pay or make friends with all these tribes so this was to

mess with the ottomans yeah it was along the coast of the red sea and to recapture mecca that was the idea so they got all the this was you know the ottomans were obviously in world war one uh the ottoman empire was on the side of the the uh the germans uh that's why we you know we got the australians to um to fight them at gallipoli and places like that which was a disaster yeah of our making um so yeah i guess they sent him in there to try and what they call the arab revolt which is where they got a whole bunch of the tribes and stuff to go and uh and fuck with the ottomans it was pretty crazy i do think it's interesting how often things like this happen and then subsequently some awful thing comes out of it i mean for example uh like you think you're doing the right thing at the time

you're doing what's necessary at the time but then it then it leads to catastrophe later for example the taliban is a prime example of that who were funded by the cia and they were you know to fight the russians during the Russian-Afghan war. Yeah. And then subsequently, of course, became the Taliban, Taliban, that we think of now as our enemy. So how times change, the stuff you do today, you don't know what effect it's going to have

in 20 or 30 years. You should probably be more careful. That's all I'm saying. In general, we don't really plan ahead. We just think about how do we win this now? How do we sort this now? And you don't think about what's going to happen in 20 or 30 years pretty crazy yeah and there's always this idea that you can get the local people to fight the battles for you yeah it's certainly

a thing in vietnam and other things rather than send troops ourselves we can you know just send the money and planes and let them do it and they're the ones who have to die it never works thing that will make it worse yeah in vietnam the the south vietnamese army the uh they gave the americans gave them tons of guns and training and i think much in the same way that happened in afghanistan they did these guys didn't actually want to fight like you know it's hard to convince people to fight against their own countrymen if you're also planning to leave you know instead of like well i don't really want to have to do this because this is going to be a really rough fight and you guys are going to fuck off and then we're going to have to deal with this forever we love all this stuff about the sort of all the deceptions

and the deceit and all these sort of strange little quirks in world war ii you know it really was like this whole yeah thing where everyone was everyone was getting involved in so many different ways to try and just win the war from it just there was just everyone was well yeah but but this is the interesting thing is quite often um you would have to help a group of people like for instance greece was it was a mess because there were a lot of different factions in greece and this is this is something that I think, like, we think of World War II as a big collection of us versus them. Like, there were two sides, but there really weren't. There were a lot more sides that also thought, like, imagine if you were waiting, if you had a group of lads who were like, you know,

on side with your political goals, and you're just waiting for a way to overthrow the government and seize power. When World War II breaks out, that's actually quite a handy way to do it. So if you pick the right side to back you and you say, hey, we'll come in on your side. We just want help with overthrowing the government and then we'll be a regime that will help you out. So you get all these other sides. They don't really give a shit about who wins the war. They just want to make sure that they win their little corner of it.

And if getting this team, this big team to help you out, will further your goals, then so be it. So it's interesting. It's an opportunity for them to capitalize on their own goals. Yeah. For their own change that they want. They've been looking for an opportunity. You know, I think it's so interesting because there's so much history happens all at once yes you know as a result it's such a massive conflict i mean it's

crazy to unravel there's so many different uh moving parts you know like uh but it is it is interesting but what are those guys doing day to day like imagine if i'm let's say let's say i'm a communist revolutionary leader right what's my day what do i do i'm in i'm in greece in 1939 take your kid to school yeah good morning you say to the man that you walk past on the street how do i what do i do for my day job what am i doing i'm not going to work at the the shoe factory i think you're just signing death warrants like all day long no but i can't sign death warrants i'm not in charge of it oh you're not in power yet we're just we know we're just hoping so let's say okay well you're putting together the list of all the people that you're gonna write death warrants about when you finally do get in power i think

that's all you do i spend my day doing like one of those uh what are they like a wish cloud yes pretty much yeah writing down names joining them i want to kill gary i want to kill Steve. Gary would be so dead. Steve would be so dead. Oh my God. Brendan is so dreamy. I can't wait till he's dead. I can't wait to sign his death warrant one day. Kendall dead. Vote for me.

I'll kill Brendan and Gary and Steve and Brian and Kevin. They're all gone. Famous Greek names, these all. Yes. Brianopolis and uh steven yes all of them and brandon terry terry stefanopolis and uh steve polychronopolis as well so that's but so they must just be on the blower to their mates saying,

God, when are we going to have this revolution? Yeah. Like there must just be all the time. And I guess they're doing pamphlets. Oh, they're doing pamphlets? Back then they were in bars all the time as well, right? It was like... Like they're just in a coffee bar or a bar,

like just sitting there, sitting in coffee and saying, how shall we overturn the government? Yeah, just saying like, these guys just, they don't care about the working man. And like drawing up posters protesting a lot they do a lot of but you don't have to be careful this is the thing i don't think you could just be out there going to universities say and giving speeches or protesting the street oh no that's where it happens the most like it yeah but you can just get killed

yeah but you just get killed but if you're the leader especially i think that the government in charge would be like this guy's trying to overthrow the government you could but in some ways like somebody getting killed it almost like in some ways it kind of can galvanize yeah yeah it helps them right because yeah but they don't want to get told you these guys are awful like now they're just killing us and stuff and then more people are going to be like oh yeah maybe these guys are leaders want that the leaders aren't like here's what i'll do lads i'll start a like now they're just killing us and stuff and then more people are gonna be like oh yeah maybe these guys are leaders want that the leaders aren't like here's what i'll do lads i'll start a movement then i'll get killed and we'll become famous and it'll work no of course not stick

around and leave like it it like it's it's it's just opportunities where you get where you can get them right like yeah i'm just wondering what they did like day to day how much of it was just talking to like i guess you're always looking to recruit people but you it would be like the mafia and that you want to keep a distance yeah you want to have a lot of it is just kind of like social manipulation and stuff too building up a gang yeah of course you having different branches finding people that are like-minded and then doing things that you that you can to uh increase that influence right it's just yeah going windsurfing together yeah of course playing chess together you know throwing some javelin at the beach in the dark or whatever like uh anything you can

to oh i did something i did something uh last week or was it this week i think it was this okay i did something i hadn't done in a while i went to the movies oh my god did you go see dune no i'm gonna see that i was gonna see that this afternoon or at some point by myself i was just gonna go see it i might see it at the weekend i don't know but i do i do really want to see it but i saw the french dispatch instead because i'm a big man it's so hard i can't really i can't justify it at this moment in time going to the movies by myself like i my wife would probably be like uh she'd probably kill you upset about that yeah i mean at the moment you know like i said you get to you get to level level 12 where i'm at level 12 slash 9 slash 10 yes they pretty much look after themselves you know i mean we had to get a

babysitter when we went to the movies but it was how was it was it good where did you go see the french dispatch oh sorry i missed that i missed that oh wes anderson oh nice yeah yeah uh it is good i i personally don't think it's his best who's in it bill murray and everybody all the all the usuals it's a huge ensemble cast like you'll have people popping up like henry winkler's in it i don't think he even has a line but he's just like the fonts yeah but like bob ballerman's in it i think he has one line like all of these there's all these actors in it that you see del toro agent brody till the spain i mean benicio del toro let's face it is in everything though like leah c do is in it it. Like everybody's in it. It is ridiculous. Francis McDormand,

Timothy Chalamet. Oh, of course. These are all people. Everybody's in it. Stephen Pomponopoulos and Owen Wilson. Barry Acropolis in it. Oh, yeah.

Owen Wilson's good. So it's got a lot of very funny bits in that are very Wes Anderson-y. But here's the difference. I've seen all his films. I love his oeuvre. His oeuvre.

Yes, yes. I love it. Yeah. The difference with this is it's essentially about a magazine called the french dispatch and it's a series of three stories three it's like three a three-parter does it have all the usual like uh like lots of nice like little boxes with ribbons on them and stuff like that kind of stuff oh good it's all like it's very it's set in france obviously and all the stories are set in france and he's done a very good job of sort of having a sort of almost a caricature of france without looking too much like a caricature of france it's

just it's very french which is which is funny if you've been to france you just there's little details you notice you're like all right that's as a foreigner's vision of france that's spot on so that's very funny it's it's just got some brilliant touches but what i loved about all his other movies was that they all had a central character who was a very strong character and you almost followed them through the film and it you know they they underwent some changes and it was i mean i'd be honest with you it's quite a similar thing in each of his films yeah but i love that i love that for his movies are just that i think they're so funny and they're so brilliant but this one is different in that it's just three standalone stories and it's not as

strong because of it right um and i think one of the stories is particularly stronger than the other two to the point where you think wow if the whole movie had been like this it would have been like much better but um i just i don't i don't think it's my favorite of his films there's also a ridiculous amount of detail to it such that i think you'd have to watch it again to really catch everything it's almost an overload of wes anderson stuff yeah uh happening all the time um but it is very very good has some really funny moments but overall i would say it falls down compared to his other works because it doesn't have that one central character who is so fascinating like royal tenenbaum uh from the that was i think i

think that was my favorite wes anderson he's brilliant right like you just want to see this character and he's such a brilliant character but just everything about it was good i like you know like their cool house and like uh just all the all the character children and everything it was just just a great movie it was a great movie but like steve zsu the life aquatic steve zsu his character is so good and everything kind of hinges off yeah everybody's relationships with this character and how it all the grand budapest the hotel budapest that was great too great finds character and that is like really everything hinges off him so it's kind of weird when you take away that anchor how the film slightly for me uh it weakens it but i'm not complaining it's still a wazanasa movie

which i'm delighted that one day it was at the isle of dogs or whatever the yeah that was brilliant yeah i really loved that my kids were watching it the other day but i still haven't seen it i should probably watch it get around really really really good yeah man i've been watching uh season two of the goes wrong show which is uh you know like a super dad humor but i i like it it's it's light-hearted and the new new season of kirby enthusiasm it's come out as well which is really good yeah there's three episodes already it's been really good actually really good really funny it feels like uh like an earlier season but more so than like the the most recent ones you

know right it's it's been really good goes wrong show is is just a bbc comedy it's like uh i don't know how to explain it you might like it you can check it out it's on iplay or whatever it's called the goes wrong it goes wrong it's very much uh it's a very like it's always it's a very throwback sort of show it's like very slapstick sort of stuff but it's like they're doing a theater production but like everything goes wrong so like the set collapses sometimes the actors there was a play called the play that goes wrong yeah i think it's probably based off of that it might even be the same people i'm not sure but um yeah it's very funny with your kids yeah it was good yeah it's good yeah my kids like it as well because it's a lot of like you know like somebody

will be dressed up like in a muscle costume but their muscle like it's all because it's a lot of like you know like somebody will be dressed up like in a muscle costume but their muscle like it's all it's inflated and it'll just pop or whatever you know it's just very bbc it's dumb stuff like that but it's a nice way that you haven't you don't necessarily see a lot of like these days no you know it's i don't know it feels like we import so much tv and ideas from other places that like i don't want to say the britishness cultural things dying i don't think it is i think you can find it certainly in all sorts of places yeah check it out flax watch it with your kids see what they think my kids love it they think it's funny like it's just it's just it's kind of dumb but it's it's pretty funny my kids are just fucking heavy into anime so yeah man yes mine as well it's i fucking love anime the uh

they might might watch the uh the last airbender avatar that one which i mean how can you not laugh at that name in all honesty like it's such a ludicrous i don't get it he's like i want to see the movie and i was like oh okay and he's like yeah is it the one with the blue people or the M. Night yeah well I know but it was like I didn't really understand what it was because I thought it was Avatar so I thought it was based off the

movie but it's not at all no it's different it's weird but it came before it's really good it seems alright yeah the M. Night Shyamalan one? that's meant to be awful yeah but it's it's came before it's really good it's really it seems all right yeah a night shy mamalan one no that's meant to be awful the cartoon the anime series the anime yeah it's all right yeah well my kids fucking love all that shit they're watching it all the time yes and my

my youngest enjoys a show called is it superstore or something it's called about a bunch of people that work in a shop sure it's a comedy watch that yeah it's kind of like the office or something i watched it as a like just a generic she loves it to have one in the background she loves it it's not inappropriate mrs f said she watched it and it was okay yeah i think i think it's fine she loved modern family she loved the office and now she loves this show but she also watches a lot of anime with her older sister. They watch anime. What's that one about a classroom? Something about a classroom? It's like every anime ever, pretty much.

Yeah. They're in a classroom and some kid has powers. Right. They laugh their heads off at it. I'm like, this sucks. This is not funny. This is absolutely not funny. You've become that dad.

Yeah. This stinks, kids. My Hero Academia is what you're thinking of, I think. Yeah, that's the one. I mean, she's thinking the- Again, it is really good. These are all thinking of. Yeah, that's the one. It's good. Again, it is really good. These are all great shows. Yeah, well, I fucking love it.

Yeah. Don't be sad. No, I'm not sad. I'm just fucking disappointed. It's all fine and safe and quite... It's fine. They're all pretty wholesome, all these things you're saying. We were talking about nostalgia the other day.

I was talking on stream last night, actually, with some mates of mine about Ready Player One oh yeah oh yeah right which so my dad sent me that book he was like you've got to read this book it's the best book ever and he's read it like multiple times and he's got the will wheaton audio book and he listens to that all the time he loves it he fucking loves it and he said to me it's just so nostalgic and i read it and i was like this isn't nostalgic this is like if you googled 80s and just took all the top results and copy pasted them into a book that's not nostalgia that's literally just hey remember so and so it's like yeah yeah i do i do of course anyone of my age does remember that

it doesn't evoke emotions just because you've said it that's not nostalgia nostalgia is a feeling it's not something you can evoke by just putting words like hey it's this remember this yeah i do what about this yeah i also remember that remember this guy yeah i do all those things yeah so that was the that was ready player one and they were telling me that the movie updated it so it was like more modern references like the iron giant and shit like that rather than than 80s references right yeah um so what i didn't get was, like, when I think of nostalgia, it's stuff that people almost remember in a way that you might have even forgotten. And it evokes a real emotion. Like, Bagpuss, for me, is a very emotional, nostalgic thing.

And I love Bagpuss. I showed it to my kids. They thought, this is the sweetest show ever. Like, this is so lovely. It's just it is just a wonderful gentle show that really is evocative of its era and i just love it it's it's uvra is top draw i just loved it all right where's addison bagpuss ain't in no ready player one you know what i mean like they put the video game tempest do you remember tempest no i there was a

lot of references in that uh in ready player one lost on me as well like some some of it obviously i knew but some of it was i think they probably had to compromise because they wanted to get more demographics in or whatever yeah maybe like fuck is tempest tempest is i i've never i've never seen a game uh like tempest i think they remade it recently. But it's essentially, it's a video game where you're looking at a sort of wireframe tunnel and creatures come up the tunnel towards you. The controller was a dial and you have to turn the dial and shoot down the tunnel.

That's the whole game. Like you just spin the dial to move your control. So imagine if I'm looking down a cylinder, although it's not always a cylinder, it changes shape, and there are things coming up the cylinder towards me, and I'm controlling something that's on the lip of the cylinder that's closest to me. And I turn the dial to move my controller, and then I shoot down the cylinder

to shoot the approaching creatures. For its time, it was genuinely incredible. And the graphics were great the light the sound everything i loved it tempest was a phenomenal game to play in the arcade completely absorbing it was it was again i i feel like i get the opposite of nostalgia right i think oh this will be really nostalgic to play i have a go and i'm like holy shit i don't remember it like no it's this out of date or this unplayable or this boring i think that's the thing it's not the game itself that i find i'm nostalgic for it's the it's the experience around the game it's like

that the the feeling you have at the time around the game as well right it has to evoke an emotional yeah yeah connection there's certain things like if i went back and played final fantasy 2 right now i'm sure it's a great game. But like, you know what I mean? I've played 20 years worth of games since or whatever. And that have been probably better and the evolution of games, whatever. Fine. But like, I'll always remember like the smell of my basement when I was like, you know, 10 years old. And I played that game on my summer vacation.

You know what I mean? And I had no responsibility and like that's what i'll be nostalgic for like just playing the game again might remind me of that but like i'll always just kind of remember it anyway sort of thing right or even like diablo 2 i tried to play diablo 2 resurrected and it was like yeah great they've done a good job it's it's diablo 2 for sure but like there was there was so much missing you know like i was missing like my fucking um hot pocket yeah my my mom's basement five empty cans of mountain dew and uh you know my uh my my my zit pads next to my desk and you know what i mean like there's it's it's the feeling that's missing the homework that's uncompleted exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah the

school uniform you miss out all that stuff but like with it too right so it's like teenage testosterone yeah yeah so you feel like it's like it's nostalgic enough but like it's but at the same time it almost feels false too right it does almost scratch the surface though you know i think that you certain smells and certain sounds and certain moods and just sitting down with a book in front of the telly on a cold night. There's certain times when it does evoke this kind of reminiscence and nostalgic, nice, comforting, warming feelings.

It's certainly happening as we move into winter and I'm starting to get in the christmas spirit i hate to say those that phrase wow really already well i've started to see christmas trees go up and like christmas lights and stuff and obviously i'm preparing the jingle jam so i'm organizing the streams and i'm watching back old clips and i'm starting to find myself like like thinking about christmas time in a kind of positive way though. Like, like we always forget about Christmas quite quickly.

I was sick of it after Christmas. We're like, thank God it's over sick of it. But then after a while you're like, Oh man, we were really into that for a few weeks. Yeah. You've seen Christmas trees go up already.

Oh yeah. It's earlier. They're all over the place. Where? Not in people's houses. It's earlier in the year. Where? Not in people's houses. In coffee shops. Oh, well. Man, there's, like, at all the supermarkets,

it's like, there's, like, the bargain Halloween stuff next to just, like, aisles of celebrations and, like, Quality Street buckets and stuff. Like, they've been stocking up for months, right? Like, they're ready for it. Yeah, so it's all happening. And I don't know't know like i'm getting a little bit wrapped up in it i mean also you know we've got to start thinking about recording christmas episodes for stuff in advance and stuff like this because you know jingle jam is is kicking off and so we want to do like you know some some some content that is christmassy and we don't have time to do it while jingle jam's

happening so we've got to do it before so i've got to be like oh i've got to think up i don't know we're searching for like christmassy themed maps to play yeah no if it's with the theme of christmas you just being massively stressed out that's that that's that's the true christmas spirit isn't it like all the all these things that we think we have to do around christmas that's that's it that is true nailed it yeah which i don't know like it does have a certain energy all of itself and even if it is tinged with stress it's still like positive it's good it's good energy i uh and it's good to be passionate about something rather than the usual ambivalence that i have to everyday life yeah yeah well i don't know it's a lot to sort out

and stuff but i don't think people should be putting trees and stuff up yet i'm like if you put up your tree at the start of december i'm okay with that you know whatever but like even then halfway through december is fine right i think you have a christmas tree for two weeks is is reasonable no you don't need one for like a month and a half it gets it's a long time to have a christmas tree it's too long we had we had fireworks night the other night i went to we did it at the the kids school oh nice well actually my youngest school sorry um and i helped out this time which i don't normally holy crap uh i actually uh helped mrs f quite a bit with setting it up and schlepping all the stuff that we needed there and everything.

And then I helped out in the kitchen serving the burgers and the sausages. Nice. Assembled masses. Here's the thing. We have a system where you have to preorder and then we order in the food based on how many people have ordered it. So we cook the exact number we need, plus a few spares in case of dropsies or, you know, someone desperate for an extra hot dog. We must have had about 50 sausages left at the end of the evening and about 15 burgers man think of how many dinners that is

for like yeah you guys and they literally just take them all either ordered and didn't bother to collect forgot they'd ordered or just didn't turn up yeah it's just kind of weird that i did not anticipate that many no-shows uh but we did have quite a few some of it mrs f was like well you know it might be a COVID thing. They might have to isolate and everything. It's like, well, fair enough. It just felt like

such a tremendous waste. So at the end of the evening, me and one of the other helpers were like, let's put them in one of these big containers we've got and we'll go out

to the people watching the fireworks. If we wait near the exit, as people leave, maybe they'll want like a walking home hot dog. You know what I mean? That was how I was going to pitch it. Yeah're gonna walk in home hot dogs quite a piece because

they're going to get binned otherwise right we go out i heard that the fireworks had started this was the longest fireworks display i've ever seen at the school we were there for like 20 minutes and we're looking at each other i was like these are cold flip like there's no way we can sell these now i had to take them all the way back in. I heard that you guys have walk-home hot dogs. I'll take 20. We can call them dogs, but I couldn't call them hot dogs at this point. I'm sorry.

Cold dogs. These are ice cold. They were literally rock hard. The fan had all solidified. Because it was a cold night, and I thought it was going to be like a minute left of the fireworks. Literally 20 minutes. And normally you're watching fireworks,

and it's like, this is great. But I'm just come on get it over oh shit yeah it was at least you couldn't enjoy it the least i've ever enjoyed a firework man my daughter's still kind of scared of them because she's she's small still and with the baby and stuff too so we're just like we didn't really do anything but on sunday we had like a little barbecue um well basically i lit the barbecue we roasted marshmallows and then the kids had sparklers yeah i bought them like 10 packs of sparklers they love it right oh man they loved it yeah they like the sparklers well even my daughter was a bit scared of them at first but she she was she's she's crazy because like she's she's timid of everything at first but then once she's comfortable with it, she gets into it. She goes crazy.

Like she was trying to do cartwheels with the sparklers and stuff. I was like, calm down. You're actually going to kill yourself if you carry on. You know what I mean? Like how did you go from being shit scared of these things to then having like no fucking awareness whatsoever around them? Like in the space of five minutes. It's insane. I remember in the 80s there

was a a um there were a lot of warnings about fireworks yeah because i think prior to that people just fucking shot at each other no problem oh yeah but um there was one where a little girl picks up a sparkler that's just gone out and someone throws it on forward she picks it up and in the outfit she's like screams and then it cuts to her with a comically large bandage on her hand, like a boxing glove-sized bandage, holding up her hand with a little tear, looking sad, and it's like, don't pick up sparklers. My sister saw

that. She didn't touch sparklers, I'm not kidding, for like 20 years after she saw that advert. It scared the shit out of her. The danger of a sparkler, though, is that you've got that, it's dark, and you've got that it's dark and you've got that pointy bit of hard metal yeah

don't tell where the pointy bit is right because the sparkler makes its way down that's right and so you have a sort of burning hot sharp bit of metal that you're swinging around in the darkness and you don't know where it also kids quite often are wearing flammable things if they're wearing any kind of flammable clothes a lot of this shit they sell kids uh back in the 80s i think was a

lot more flammable than it is now we did have a lot of anti-firework like yeah propaganda but it's not propaganda though it's not propaganda is it psa stuff like what's it called public service type stuff yeah i remember there'd be loads of adverts we used to have all the we used in the 80s you had all the uh the the saturday morning cartoon psas remember like yeah joe and stuff used to have the segment right at the end and he man as well yeah they had one to grow on was the thing they had the more the more you know and all that kind of stuff yeah it was all like uh talking to strangers is bad because they're fucking assholes that's one to grow on you know that's sort of the the way it was or being nice to other kids you think come on how's this ever gonna hey duke do you think it's safe to talk to strangers and accept candy from them well i don't

know gridiron a real american would never take a candy from a stranger like it's it's all that kind of shit right it could be an agent of coma yeah i loved all that though it was it was really really educational tiktok and everyone on tiktok it's always like going out getting seeing how much fucking candy i can get from strangers oh mate have you got any candy give us some candy mate oh you fucking can't give us some candy like all the kids are out there they're all content creators yeah who are doing this stupid, pranky, ballery, dumb content. Hey, do you think it's okay

for kids to make TikToks these days? Well, they are. They would never subject themselves to a TikTok, I don't think. TikTok's owned by the Chinese government. It's an agent of Cobra as well, so... Oh, man. Well, I mean, that's...

I don't... I think times have changed, but I don't think people's stupidity has changed. And this stuff goes in cycles, right? Like, you know, it's going to be... It's not until someone gets, like, injured or some thing, some movement happens that change will actually take place, right?

Yes. I mean, they were just banned in New York State when I was living state when i was living there we fireworks were it was hard to get them when i was a kid we still got them you had to get them in mexico yeah from our russian neighbors i've told this story before yeah uh they just turned up we have the fireworks and they had like a big fucking suitcase full of fireworks that uh they'd you know got from there with launch codes and everything don't mind the launch codes we will just use don't input those we will just use the rockets for tonight just a little fireworks not the launch codes don't look at that kid fucking hell man the um yeah i don't know i think i think just keeping it simple was pretty good

like um like when my kids are older like they think just keeping it simple was pretty good like um like when my kids are older like there's a big bonfire there's like 4 000 people like out in one of the parishes or whatever my son like a bunch of his friends from school were going he's like oh can we go and i was like we can't go to that like it's we'll go one day but man it's just i i don't know how to skirt the line between being miserable and not wanting to do anything and then my son missing out on potentially stuff or but being able to explain to him that it's like all kind of disappointing as well you know like you feel like you want to do this stuff but like it fucking sucks when you do it you know what i mean but like i guess he

has to experience that like indoor fireworks everyone has to experience the disappointment of indoor fireworks they are crushing yeah the snake is the only good one i mean the snake is top top draw but the rest of them are fucking awful i think we did some of them on stream oh yeah um recently ish yeah they still sell indoor fireworks yeah they do you can get more they're all fucking garbage and really like 20 quid fuck off what is this here's the top question people ask are indoor fireworks a thing just fucking google indoor fireworks you need to ask is this a thing what are the people are so dumb indoor fireworks bonanza pack give me the list of contents the snakes alive is in it ice fountains indoor sparklers and then sizzling strobes ice

fountains and there's one called flash harry nice blazing bengals bang bang fun snaps oh i don't want them thrown indoors well they're probably just the it's those snappy things in the little bags yeah they're like in those little pouches yeah it leaves bits of fucking exploded paper all over my house yeah you just do them out on the driveway. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. My kids get them sometimes. They just do them on the driveway. So I said you're not doing them in the house.

I thought I was clear about that, kids. I didn't say you couldn't do them anywhere on the property. I'm just saying not in the house. Yeah. Even all those indoor fireworks, they let off a lot of foul-smelling stuff, usually. Oh, and the snakes are nice. So does my ass. The snake is like the poop one, right?

It looks like a poop. You light it, it's some chemical reaction, it forms a huge snake that continues to- it goes like- foams out. Yeah, it's like a point, it just keeps- it's one of those chemical reactions. Yeah, I mean, it's a- I think it's generous to call it a firework, I suppose. A lot of this stuff is still around, like, and it's always been bad. Remember like the- remember when you were a kid, the slush kid the slush puppy maker soda stream the ice cream factory and stuff like all that stuff sucks like and they still make you know what i mean about like technology not advancing though like what what

what the fuck have we got that's new well why are we still using those shit brown snakes how have they not come up with some really good indoor fireworks in the last there's just no investment in that industry you know like it's just it's it's all old everyone's investing in like fucking cryogenically freezing their fucking brain you want to hear about these fucking snakes this is a black snake is a term that can refer to two similar types of firework the pharaoh snake and the sugar snake the pharaoh snake or pharaoh serpent is the original version of the black snake experiment it produces a more impressive, but its execution depends upon mercury tooth thiosionate, which is no longer in common use due to its toxicity.

Oh, man. Once lit, both fireworks emit smoke and spew out ash resembling a snake. This is a great word. An intumescent reaction. Intumescent. Nice. Intumescent. Did you guys ever have a slinky when you were growing up yeah of course

did you guys ever make it do the walk down the stairs trick like more than more than one or two steps we had wooden stairs and the slinky would lose its grip oh so like uncarpeted stairs it didn't work but i think the stairs have to be a very precise angle you have to have a very certain level of steepness for this or it just it just either goes too fast and just cunts it down the stairs or it goes two steps and then goes uh just sort of gives up yeah it's it's a very very precise i mean the advert they've obviously fucking done oh man the correct angle of the stairs has to be as far as well those ads are always they still make them like if you watch any any um tv networks like

you know like uh like citv or something like that where they have ads and mostly for toys like aimed at kids it was the same like when we were growing up like you see like if they're selling ninja turtles they have this fucking amazing like backdrop sewer and stuff and you're like oh shit yeah i would play with ninja turtles there but then the reality is you get it and you're just like playing with it like on your bed in your car yeah on your carpet or whatever and it's like i don't know like even when i was a kid i was always disappointed because it was like fuck i want that cool the stuff that shoots like this is a big thing like you know with a rocket missile firing backpack like a backpack that shoots a rocket and the kid's like whoa and you shoot it it goes like two inches oh i know

just drops out of he-man's rocket firing attack and then you lose you lose the projectile almost immediately oh instantly yeah instantly so you're just left with this dude with a backpack that has nothing to fire because it was like one specifically shaped thing like it was like in a t-shape or whatever that could fit into the hole and then load it into the spring thing like but it's like it sucks all the fun out of it just give them a rocket launcher you don't need it just give them the reality of the shit rocket launcher sucks all the imagination and be like oh this fucking sucks yeah like you should just the shit rocket launcher sucks all the imagination. They'd be like, oh, this fucking sucks. Like, you should just have a rocket launcher.

Like, it doesn't shoot anything. It just looks like a rocket launcher. Then they can use your imagination. It's like, pew, boom, rather than it just goes, meh, and a tiny bit of red plastic plops two feet down. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? Don't try and do it. So sometimes it's better for it to do nothing at all

than something disappointing. Like, if it lights up, like, loads of flame lights up yeah that's much cooler than it's shooting a fucking bit of red plastic get me on the toy design design board design get me on the toy design board get me on there i design those toys a lot of a lot of toys now are just like like gotcha toys though they're it's like you don't know you get a pack uh with like something in it but you don't know what it is and you have to try to collect it all. Hate it. Yeah, they're the worst.

You just end up with all these doubles and triples and quadruples. And I guess like it would be good if kids traded them or whatever. But there's so many. They don't. That like my son will have be collecting one set. He never did. And then all of his friends will be collecting completely different sets. So they don't even have doubles to trade.

There's too many of them. It's nuts. It fucking sucks. Yeah. And I mean, just imagine when humanity is long gone some alien race will turn up and see the mountains of fucking lol dolls and atari cartridges littering all those atari cartridges that are buried underground somewhere yeah yeah and they'll be like oh my god you got the britney one swapsies swapsies i never had that part when i was a child yeah it hasn't changed much at all if like like from what i've seen it's it's just all the same shit all the dolls that poop and that you could feed them and they poop i remember all of those like when i was a kid um like the like the rubber monster hand puppet ones those are still around boglins yeah they're

not called boglins so they're just called something different now and uh there's like a tie-in with a show or whatever man fucking paw patrol is still going which is like the most formulaic thing ever right like just toy shifting yeah it always has been but it annoys me that it's on the bbc blatantly shoved in there to sell toys. At least Peppa Pig was a bad show. And then they made toys. Fair play to them. Peppa Pig was legit.

But all these other shows, like, I know what this is. I'm not a fucking idiot because I remember this from my childhood. And now you're doing it on the BBC's dime. Unacceptable. Would you rather have your kids watching that than the TikToker?oker do you mean i would much rather they watch tv yeah for sure any day like no but like imagine like instead of paw patrol on the bbc they put like some young tiktok stars on there no no a lot of shows reference this stuff though well i will say this at the very least tv is heavily regulated it. I mean, the fact is that the way the internet works, especially with things like TikTok,

that gets me, is that content is up there until it's been reviewed or reported enough times that they take it down. It would be like if in television, we had infinite channels, and you're browsing through the channels, and you stumble upon a TikTok where someone says that, you know, I don't want to get political or anything, but vaccines are evil, and here's me pulling a microchip out of my arm. And that doesn't get taken down or challenged at all. It just exists. And your kids are watching it.

That's what fucking burns me up. Is it at least with television, it's regulated. There are fines if you fuck up. There are departments at these stations whose entire job is to make sure that you comply with regulations and laws. I mean, anything's like gambling you can't advertise. very very very specific instances you can but you have to be very careful how you do it none of that exists online and the idea is oh this is to enable content creators it's the fucking wild west and if you have kids you will understand what i'm

talking about yeah because they will come to you and show yourself you think how the fuck have you seen this because some algorithm has recommended it to them. It's awful. It's awful, awful, awful. And I think that it sounds like a parent, something must be done. But this is not the way we've ever done things. No, of course not. We've never had things like this. This and probably the last generation of children are like the first to experience this.

Yeah, literally unfettered, unregulated broadcasting of anything and we're just meant to embrace it as the freedom of the internet i think it's fucking awful i really do it's sorry to sound like an old luddite no it's dangerous to you you have to shoot that's what i'm saying though like you know we we've always had corporations feeding us tv shows like transformers that are clearly just made to sell toys. It's basically a glorified toy advert, like the Lego movie is, and all the Lego Batman, and all this stuff is just a glorified toy

advert. It's made by a corporation, and sure, there's people who are passionate who work for these companies, I'm sure, and they've made something that is fun and watchable. Lego movies are great. They're fun. They're fine, right? I think that, you know, what is worse,

the corporate thing or the unfettered creativity of random edge laws. Well, let me just say one thing about that. Although you are right that a lot of those

cartoons and kid shows, especially the ones that we grew up with, a lot of them, not all of them by any stretch, but a lot of them were about shifting toys.

Here's one big difference. Kids don't have any fucking money. Yeah, true. They still, there is still a further gatekeeper they need to get through to get that stuff their parents well anyways guys we gotta wrap this up because i gotta go stream and make jizz jokes all day long and uh convince people that vaccines are terrible so um you know if we could just like put a gap on this i've got a legion of kids that want to listen to me talk about this shit so hey you know what's crazy now too um if you watch if you watch kids shows like uh my like my kids

watch um like the like the loud house and like all these like a lot of them are like american there's like british shows too you know like the like the cartoons of the the current generation or whatever a lot of the the sort of types of kids you know like British shows too, you know, like the cartoons of the current generation or whatever. A lot of the sort of types of kids, you know, like when we were watching, you know, like if you watched like Saved by the Bell or whatever, you had like the jock, you had like the nerd. Right, right. You had the cool guy, you had the, you know, the teen dream girl. Slater.

You had the nerdy girl or whatever. And there was all the stereotypes of the time right but now when you watch these shows there's like the vlogger there's like the tiktok no there is though like these have become like like current day stereotypes because like uh for like a lot of kids these are sort of aspirational things for them like they want they want to stream or they want to be a youtuber they want to get get a viral tiktok whatever you know what i mean like it's it it's i love how specific you can make it's interesting to see like also to point out what you were saying about huge corporations trying

to shift toys lewis i mean these are also huge corporations trying to shift views yes so it's not really that that in that regard i think it's kind of kind of the same but there's no barrier to entry to making a tiktok you just have to own so all right how about this okay um i read it today i fucked up yesterday i just want to know how you feel about this someone sent me this this is the last last thing unless we have a mailbag we don't have a mailbag yeah this is the last thing don't worry obligatory disclaimer this happened today i've been very lonely lately right both physically and emotionally i have plenty of physical options but i'm at a point where not having an emotional connection leaves me feeling kind of hollow and generally disappointed right so i found this guy on tiktok

and he makes relatively risque videos right after 30 to 40 reels i went to his instagram which led me to his porn hub account he makes videos very much geared towards women and i scrubbed through several of his videos until i found one the part of the title that jumped out to me was love making pov and i'm thinking to myself this is the one emotional and physical satisfaction right everything was going great until the very end when he says and that's why i love you and i started ugly crying i was not expecting him to take it that far in the video to be honest i'm still kind of sad about it but now that i've written it out it seems a bit funny and that is that is a today i fucked up comment like and what do you what do you guys what's your immediate

reaction what was the fuck up the what getting upset about it or yeah it like it like upset her right because I think somehow first question what the fuck are you reading what is this

this is why I'm reading stuff on reddit this was like the most upvoted thing on reddit yeah because it's so bizarre she cried

because she watched some POV porn and the dude said he loved her and it made her cry. Stop looking at so much porn that it's making you weep. I would say, why are you that invested? My friend thinks his post is really wholesome.

I think it's awful. I think it's tragic and awful. I think it's weird that people think it's wholesome as well. Like, what world do we live in? I feel incredibly sad that that girl was so into this person that hearing them say, I love love you made her cry that i think that's awful and tragic and sad that's how i feel you don't think it's wholesome no we have the access to these types of things on the internet today this is the dangers that we're talking about

the way we think it's wholesome that somebody shared an emotional experience due to is that is that the wholesome part like somebody somebody was just so uh transparent about how they felt about something i'm just so confused about all of that that whole that there's so much to unpack there but we live in a world where you know you can be lonely you can stalk people from tiktok to their porn hub account and get a weird emotional connection and then post about it on Reddit afterwards and share it with everyone. But I think that when the person said that they were feeling very lonely physically and emotionally, I think that you do end up in situations

not specifically like this, but you become a bit irrational right i guess you like there's you you need something right and and so but this to me is like a sign of deep depression and sadness and this isn't the solution is it well no but again like you you can't you don't know what to do right like i like i feel bad that like the person feels that way maybe it is maybe this is fine maybe this is the solution i just think it's you know it's so so sad that um that this is where we've got to i i don't know i'm always this person who thinks maybe this is better than prozac you know maybe this is like maybe this is fine we don't know though do we we don't know what we're doing we're in uncharted

water i cannot imagine that it's mentally healthy. It's not. It does not occur to me that this is a healthy interaction. I don't think this is new either. I think it's just that, like, this specific scenario exists today

because of what's available to us, the things that we can watch, the forums that we can post on and stuff like that. But it was just something, it was just disguised differently 20 years ago, right this this all there's not nothing new really about like this kind of behavior in a weird world where billionaires hire 18 year olds for their blood and they follow them around giving them transfusions and turkish air transplants people

could find a boyfriend on on the internet and get emotional fulfillment it's bizarre it is bizarre yeah even a weird weird world um yeah but yeah i feel really bad for that person because i gotta suck right like just feeling like that no i think she had a great time she's happy she's sharing this this moment oh yeah she's was like just got like a humbling i don't think it was like a moment where she was like what am i doing she was just like you know i didn't expect to um ugly cry off the back to get such a reaction yeah i assume it was a good good cry ugly crying right it's not ugly crying to me sounds bad maybe she just well no but i think some people it's a it's a release

right just having a good cry and i guess if you just in a roundabout way find the find a way to do that cry then maybe you would feel better I guess I don't know it just sounds awful I mean yeah alright that's enough then thank you for listening to the podcast

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