Triforce! - Triforce! #199.2: World Series of Poggers

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Triforce podcast. Oh, it's wonderful to be here. We're back. We're back. Sips. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. Welcome back. Welcome back. Period. Hello. Welcome Hello. Good morning. Good morning. Welcome back. Welcome back. Period. Hello.

Welcome back. Welcome back. Good morning. You know, I was just reminded of something. So for anyone that doesn't know, when we do these recordings, and I think when anyone in the Yogg does these recordings, and probably anyone anywhere does recordings, if you've got multiple audio signals that you're going to edit together, you do what's called a mark. Yes.

Where we all count down three, two, one, and then then we all say mark so you can sync up the recordings but for a while we changed it from mark to go or something like that can you guys remember that yeah vaguely yeah i think i still just did mark anyway yeah but it was like we go three two one can't teach an old dog shazam or something like in order to raise the energy levels Or something like that I thought it was bollocks at the time And I'm very glad we've just gone back to saying Mark Well it was more because Mark was kind of this strange

Long noise that was More tricky to sync up than a monosyllabic sound So we could just maybe go Like a grunt 3, 2, 1 3, 2, 1 Yeah Or like the sound of a caveman thumping another caveman yeah with a with a uh with a club yeah i like that club we could do a caveman edition of triforce is the 200 special where we

just communicate in grunts man i hope that they take all of our grunts and sample them into like the new Elder Scrolls music, you know, like that grunty like... Yeah, I want all that. I want the fame and the glory from that for sure. For anyone that's just joining the podcast, welcome. We're grunting. We're grunting, we're men. We're just men.

Two of us fathers of multiple children. And sometimes you've got to do some grunting. You know, you've got to let it all out. You've got to let it hang loose. You've got to let it hang low. I love the grunting. I like the idea of me holding up a picture of cave painting of Pamela Anderson to you and you guys going...

Grunting appreciatively. Ultra excited grunting appreciatively ultra excited grunting it's like that guy watching the fucking Star Wars Force Awakens trailer for the first time, you remember that guy? fucking crying and shit, that's hilarious oh man it's just animal instinct

excitement I think that if you met a caveman from 20,000 years ago, 100,000 years ago, showed him a picture of Pamela Anderson, like her Baywatch years, oh my God. He would be grunting like this. We'd both be grunting. I'd be like, you know what?

There may be an ocean of time between us, friend, but we found that Pamela Anderson travels across generations and civilizations and time and language itself to result in... Whatever year you're from, we're grown. I think Big Knockers is globally trans, you know, to all humanity. Even women understand the... Even those boob havers themselves. Throughout all time time i'm sure there's cave paintings of big knockers as well like well it doesn't have to be pam it could be

like just to pamela and maybe uh david hasselhoff with his buns out you know old ugg had the biggest knockers in the village and all the men you know would do like heavy grunting anytime she was around or whatever you know do you know what i would love i would like to get this uh confirmed pamela augustine i'd like to get this confirmed by any women that listen i've asked mrs f and she dismissed it as she dismisses all my questions with the wave of a hand so this is this is my question right and i i feel that i've noticed that in any social situation where there's a group of women, the women with the biggest tits tend to be in charge. They tend to be the movers and shakers. Yeah, maybe.

Okay. And they just sort of have a sort of air about them where they're the keepers of the conversation. Yeah, no, I think it's the same for men. I think the guy with the biggest panini is in charge. And clearly I'm in charge of this podcast. You can't see the panini. but i mean come on when you look down there and it looks like i've stuffed like three gym socks down my pants and i haven't it's all natural that you know yeah you use your imagination i'm not looking at your dick i'm gonna say you are i caught you that last time i saw you i was like come on flack stop staring at my dick eyes up here

eyes up here like stop objectifying me stop staring at my my my crotch area disgusting i'm just saying women do it i mean i know if if there's a group of women and i'm talking to them whoever's got the biggest boobs is probably getting the bulk of my attention that's all i'm saying but i think in terms of social cues i think a lot of women take their cues from the biggest boobs at the party sure i don't i think that's your anecdotal experience though i don't think that's true there's been no research what about what about a just like a set a perfectly beautiful big round set of uh eyes you know what i mean like uh that you can get lost in eyes schmize you can't suck a pair of eyes no no but have you noticed though that you've noticed eyes a lot more since the lockdown and

stuff with people wearing masks you can't see the rest of their face right so all you can see is their eyes yeah but that's why i think it's a trick i think eyes are a trick no no they're because you see beautiful eyes my first thought is yeah but what's under that mask you know what i mean like just like a set of horse teeth or something like that but that's what she looks like eyes are super important though no like you have to have nice eyes i agree you gotta have your eyes a nice pair of eyes i love a really looking deeply no no no uh no no patches or like you know glass eyes or anything like that just just all natural like not just a single large eye in the middle of the head or an extra eye yeah three eyes is no good so if you were like captain kirk off in space and you

met a woman beautiful perfect body but she had one massive eye like lila from future armor yeah could you could you go through with it like most of her face is an eye oh i think i probably could yeah i could see past it wow you like that yeah well she can't she hasn't got any depth she might though it's one big eye like it's It's got to work in mysterious ways, I would have thought. It doesn't have binocular vision. Also, I do apologize. You may hear, you guys might not because it's voice activated when we record this, but the recording will certainly have a lot of banging. There's some banging. I don't know if you can hear that in the background. Drilling, hammering, chundering around. My neighbor is having a loft conversion,

which is probably going to take a couple of months. Oh, my God. Man, I wish I was there. We're due a loft conversion. It's like it's all set to go. We just got to get people in to actually do it now. But, man, we've got that whole – we have that whole adventure to go through. It's an adventure, all right.

Yeah, yeah. So I read an article this week about basement conversions. Oh, that's a big thing in London. Everyone is – Well, not – hold on, hold on, all right. Yeah, yeah. So I read an article this week about basement conversions. Oh, that's a big thing in London. Everyone is... Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. Not everyone. Not everyone. The rich are having basement conversions.

Yeah, yeah. You've got to be pretty rich. You've got to start digging out under their house and have it in swimming pools put down there and fucking massage bars and God knows what. Oh, you name it. Cinemas. Yeah.

Yeah. Gyms. Private gyms. Because they've got these houses in in fancy neighborhoods in london like mayfair and you know all around kensington and kensington and all that chelsea and stuff so they're like we need to you know we need more room but we don't want to have to move because they've probably got a job in the city or something like that or they've got some fancy job in london of which there are plenty and they don't want to move their house is worth millions but they need more space because they've got all this fucking money so they go underground they go so they dig these mega basements they call them and they build

like an extra house underneath their house but a lot of the people that live in those places it's literally skip city because if you think about the number of skips you need to just do basic work like when we had the kitchen done we had to have a little bit of foundations dug out in the back garden and there was all the rubble and all the rest of itips you need to just do basic work. Like when we had the kitchen done, we had to have a little bit of foundations dug out in the back garden, and there was all the rubble and all the rest of it from the old part of the building that they replaced and all that. It was about seven or eight skips worth of stuff.

If you're digging a whole story underground, that's like a hundred skips easily. Oh, easily. There's a lot of dirt and rubble and crap. They've got to dig it out, and then they've got to dig down further to put the foundations down for all that and i think if you're digging in london any kind of digging in london you have to have archaeologists and shit come in because it's like we're sat on top of thousand unexploded world war ii bombs you name it like old swords and shit like yeah

everywhere pits yeah there's the drilling i don't know if you guys can hear that drilling no i can't i can't hear that's good well our listeners will be able to hear it nice good luck folks they're just gonna have to put up with it unfortunately basement excavation apparently is is absolute hell for neighbors because it's a thing that apparently i don't know i assume you do need permission for it but it's like one of those things that's quite often given permission because it's not visual right you're like well just dig out the basement doesn't sound that bad um you know it's not going to blight the skyline you don't have to have a scaffold you know you don't have to but actually apparently it's a real a real ball like it is a real ball like for all consent I'm pretty sure I was watching uh grand designs the finalist last

night on tv I don't know if you've ever watched this show before but it's about all these like these fucking crazy houses that people end up building or whatever and some of them are awesome and some of them like not so much or whatever but this is like the finalist one right they're shortlisting like the best ones to win some award at the end of the year for 2021 man some of the houses are just spectacular but they make it seem like these people are just like oh you know joe works at a stapler factory and mary was a stay-at-home mom and they uh you know they just got creative one day and they built like this fucking multi multi multi-million pound super mansion you know what i mean like it's just like

okay uh but some of them some of them are kind of nice like there's this one couple that built uh they lived in south london and it was um it looked like it was they demolished a victorian home which i was like what the hell like most of them are listed you can't just demolish them it was in this neighborhood with all these old beautiful victorian houses or whatever but it turns out that the house that they built on was built in the 50s, looked like shit. Everybody hated it.

So what they did was they just like stripped the outside of the house and built a new house on top of it. So the ground floor of the new house is just the old house, but you can't tell. And it's made to look like a sort of modern take on like a Victorian house

and it fits in really nicely with the neighborhood and everything. Man, it's beautiful. They have five kids and they have a bedroom for each kid in there as well so like multi-millions clearly but i do wonder sometimes if these people just sold a house that they had for a lot of money and then went and bought some land very cheaply in the country and realized that they still had like a million quid left yeah maybe but like man some of that stuff like a change some of it is so nice so it's like really creative you know like i don't know how it's really stupid yeah some of it is pretty stupid yeah but like for me if if if they said to me like oh design your dream house man it would just be like a square

like a perfect square like and i would just like a Yeah, exactly. It would be like surviving the first night Minecraft house. Chris and Claudine have knocked down their listed country mansion to build a giant Amazon box. They've modeled it after a classic packing box with the arrow on the side and an opening on the top. And they've left it on someone else's doorstep with a note. Sealed by with packing tape the couple can enter the the room via any number of holes i tell you what though if i had my own little like

fulfillment uh room like amazon fulfillment room with like a rack and like a label printer and stuff like that i'd be pretty happy just you know mundane tasks to add on to like the other mundane tasks i i do all day in video games and stuff you know just like fulfill some amazon parcels from my own my amazon house why not i guess like most of the time they have an architect right who's sat on some weird designs that they created at uni or whatever and they want to do those but then again also it's like people are inspired by nature right like they're like they've got a piece of land with an old windmill on it they're like these guys use the shell of the old windmill kind of completely almost like unnecessarily but almost at extra

cost you know to keep it would be cheaper just to knock the whole fucking thing down and start again but they've spent extra money to kind of retain period features um or whatever and so it's like in the in the um in this couple's front room kitchen bedroom bathroom single joining room um there is the ruins of the old windmill it's like oh okay they've just kept the whole thing in there as this sort of strange there was a there's a house on the thing yesterday that had like an old uh medieval english like fort it was in cornwall or something or like somewhere no it wasn't cornwall sorry it was it was up north somewhere because it was on the border of scotland

um right and uh and but it was listed it was like grade two listed so they could not remove it you know it's like a historical site or whatever but they just tacked a house onto it and then built a house like inside of it and stuff. But it's like, I feel like if it's listed, it should just be kind of left. You shouldn't just be like tacking a house onto the side of a historical site. The whole point is it's listed because it is itself historically important. It was nice enough. It wasn't for me, but like I can appreciate that like, you know, a lot of thought went into the architecture and stuff.

But like, I don't know. Part of me just thinks like, can appreciate that like you know a lot of thought went into the architecture and stuff but like i don't know part of me just thinks like just leave that stuff if you if you are going to go to the trouble of listing it just leave it you know like make it you know get the get the heritage foundation or whatever to like you know um set up like a museum inside of it or some shit like that but like i don't know i don't know how I feel about somebody just having a house like, tacked onto it, you know? It doesn't really make a lot of sense. People do like, money, and they will just do things that are cheaper. Because you know, as soon as London house prices reach a certain amount per square foot, it's obviously suddenly cheaper to dig out the basement, and you know, or dig out the

garden, you know? How low can you go, though? Put a layer of turf on top of the roof like you get like five stories underground like sort of thing man that'd be awesome some of them are just keep digging and digging and digging i don't know like i never i don't like i don't really like living underground no i don't know with the with the lack of like windows and stuff i mean i get it for a cinema room maybe yeah yeah yeah maybe a swimming pool i mean in America, like especially where I, when I grew up, every house I lived in had a basement. It was like a, it was a common thing in the neighborhoods that I grew up in.

But most of the basements weren't finished. So like say you bought your house off plan, you moved into it. Like we, like my parents bought a house when I was about three, I think. And this is like the neighborhood that I grew up in. But the houses were just built at the time in like, you know, 1983 or whatever. But when you moved in, there was no like fences separating the backyards. There was no, the basements weren't finished. Like there was a lot of things that you sort of had to do yourself to finish off this.

What do you mean not finished? We haven't dug it out. We've already dug it out. No, no, no. They dig it out. They sort of you know like it forms the foundation of the house right so it's like a concrete box underneath your house um right in the ground and then um and then they just build the house on top of that

but like and there's like just like a a really sort of basic set of stairs down to it but when you go down there it is just a concrete box with a drain in the middle of the of the floor you know it's like it looks like a murder room or something right dexter stood there and sometimes there's like a couple of steel beams that sort of like hold up the the rest of the house down there as well oh we can knock those through yeah but then it's up to you it's up to you to face up real nice it's up to you to finish it off so like like i remember when i was small my dad and a couple of his friends went to, like, you know, Home Depot or whatever and got everything they needed. And he put, like, walls, like, partitions and flooring and everything in.

And then it became, like, a, you know, like, another living room downstairs. But, like, because I had a brother as well, it was more, like, just for kids, right? It was, like, a big playroom sort of thing. And it was great. But, you know, it's and it was great but you know it's it's extra work for sure you know like so like i i definitely had friends where their basements were not ever finished you know they were just used as storage or there's like a workshop down there or whatever you know like and then the big fucking sink that i always talk about the basement sink

i don't know if you guys remember me talking about it but there's always like some big rubber basement sink in these in these basements and it's like just a sink for cleaning your dirty shoes or your dog or something like that you know cigar room that's one of these things that people have underground i feel like a cigar room underground is not the best you'd have to ventilate it like like crazy right well i feel like if you're gonna have a cigar room you need it you need it like leading out onto a like a balcony or something so that you can open the you can open a big door and just waft all that fucking putrid cigar smoke out yeah so you can look like evilly across the cityscape and say one day this will be all yeah i think if you have a cigar room in a in a basement with no ventilation it's gonna get really fucking gnarly down there after a while

it's gonna well i assume it must be the same for all of this stuff like it's like a gym an underground gym i mean that's gotta have decent ventilation isn't it that's the one of the big things they put on i'm sure they put ventilation in lads i mean they're not just sealing you in an underground tomb like well there's your underground room is there any air in there yeah i definitely saw someone doing on queenscapes they were covered in dirt and i was like why are they so dirty what can they possibly be doing in that building that involves that much i don't think it has to be underground dirt to be dirty dirt dirt is dirt whether it be i think you get that underground dirt and you make some nice

planters outside in your backyard it's got i mean if you're digging up a basement you've got you've got to have some yardage as well right like but but but wouldn't it just be if you think about it it's dirt that hasn't had oxygen in it for a long time well and therefore there won't be bacteria that's alive it's only a really thin layer of topsoil before you get into like the the clay and rocks and stuff too right so a lot of it is just gonna be rubble i think yeah i mean i don't know anything about this i'm just no i'm making some big assumptions but i we are probably sound like i know what i'm talking about so i'm gonna carry on um just you know so last couple of weeks it's been the world series of poker main event the big one the ten thousand dollar buy-in very large field of players i think it's i can't let's see how many players

were at the start i want to say it's 6 000 i've not seen a single article about this or any awareness of it at all i think it's all very locked up under copyrighted the broadcast i'm going to talk about that in a moment oh uh so let me see if i can find the main i saw you tweeting about this you seem to have some uh some i was angry you had some opinions for sure there were opinions shared well i'm not i'm excited to hear about i'm not um about your main event had 6 650 entrance uh at 10 grand a pop eight million dollar uh for the uh for the for the prize pool okay so yeah the problem with poker at the moment is that it's not as big as it was in the early 2000s, mid 2000s. That's when the poker explosion was around.

Right. I'm sure there's lots of people. What burst the poker bubble? I will tell you. Okay. Okay. So here's what happened. Poker was, they'd had a World Series since the 70s.

It had been around a while. And it was only really a small group of people that basically lived in Las Vegas and played poker professionally. Kyle Brunson. Doyle Brunson for poker professionally kyle brunson doyle brunson exactly brunson yeah and phil helmuth and all those old school guys have been around for years i feel like they got a they need to appeal to a younger audience and i have a really good idea for how they could do it if you don't mind me sharing just before you carry on i i think i think if you're looking for a younger audience, you need to make references to things that younger kids will know about, right? And I feel like poker, there's cards in it. Pokemon, there's cards in it as well.

I think they could repurpose, like do like a song. You know, do you guys remember the Pokemon Christmas song? Who's that Pokemon at the Pokemon Christmas bash? You know that one? No. But instead, they could say, who's that pokemon at the pokemon christmas bash you know that one no but instead they could say who's that poker star at the poker star christmas bash and then they could like you know and then part of the song is like it names the pokemon so it's like squirtle but like instead they could be like g g g g g g g g g gary you know like they could they could get all of their they could get all the poker stars names in get all the PokerStars names in so that the kids would remember

who they were and stuff. I think... No? Like, I think I'm on to something kind of cool here. Like, maybe they should get me to do the PR or something. Maybe they could.

I thought... I thought you were going to say they replaced the cards with Pokemon cards. No, no. I just... Too obvious, Lewis. Come on.

They replaced the suits with, like, I don't know, either Grass- type or Pikachu. He's got a Pikachu flush going here. Just needs one more Pikachu. Yeah. The seven of Pikachus and the- And it's the Eevee. Oh, yeah. But instead it's like the, hey, look, it's a Stuart, you know, like that other Pokestar,

you know, like that everybody knows and loves. Nigel, the Pokestar like you've taken it a step too far hey look holy shit it's last year's champion it's colin you know like it's not you but i like where you're going because you could rename like the flop and the turn to like the tick and the talk yeah i mean you could like yes you could get some sponsorships in. And when a play is, and when a big play or a bluff is made, they could be like, that's a bit sussy.

Yeah. And stuff, you know, like they gotta appeal to. And then when someone like bluffs someone and tricks them, they can say, oh, Mogus. Yes, of course.

Yeah. And they could call the tournament Pog Champs or something like. Yes. You know? Yeah. Oh, I like where this is going. Rename Pogga to Pogga. Yes. yeah and they could and they could call the tournament pog champs or something like yes you know yeah oh i like where this is yeah you can get like it's a pogger yes there you go yeah well the way it actually went down was it we should be hired as a consulting agency for the youth this is my bid this is this is my 2022 bid i hope that they're listening because i mean well

here's what they did instead okay they hid the world series of poker behind a paywall and you need to sign up to this garbage site that nobody ever watches other than at this two weeks for the world series if you want to watch other events i guess it's about a month you sign up for um because it's a whole bunch of events like horse and omaha and all the rest of it there's a whole bunch of events in the world right uh but they don't do that you've got to pay to watch the World Series. Now, this is like if Dota hid the international behind a paywall. If the World Cup, you had to pay to watch the World Cup. You know, people would just not watch it.

They would do something else. And poker is a game that needs fresh blood. These poker websites and casinos and all that need people to come in and play games otherwise it stops existing like that that's just how it goes so the world series of poker is the best way to sell poker and the boom that we were talking about earlier was a guy called chris moneymaker won the world series his name was moneymaker which is i know well that's gotta be a deed poll right like there's no way there's a real last name. No, no, no, that's his name. That is his name. That is his name. He was an amateur

player. He turned up, he played, he won the whole thing. This was headline news. This was, like, big news. Chris Moneymaker, because that's just such a great name, wins the World Series. Okay, so his German name was Nermacher. That was his parents, his ancestors were called that because they made gold and silver coins.

Nermacher. Right. When they came to America, Nermak. Right. The way they came to America, they obviously changed. Right, but he didn't change his name to Chris Moneymaker. No, no, he was born Chris Moneymaker, first of his line. Yeah, he was. So the World Series of Poker, that year when Moneymaker won it, it blew up and it was all over, you know, you watch it on TV and it was big and it got a load

of people into poker whole bunch of poker websites sprang up out of it all of those big big name players there was late night poker there was poker after dark there were all these poker tv shows big high rollers playing these games and people like daniel negrano and phil ivy and gus hansen became household names if you followed poker they became big names because they were fun to watch and they were playing for millions of dollars and it was great. And then poker had a decline because first of all, in America, they changed the rules so that you couldn't use gambling websites anymore. They banned it. So you had to do it with a VPN and all the rest of it. And a lot of people didn't like that. And of course, when you're getting paid out,

you can't have a gambling site, I assume, an american bank account so it became a whole fucking problem so the u.s government successfully shut down poker this burgeoning industry they shut it down and that killed it a lot and a lot of people i think tried out poker as a result of its popularity realized they weren't any good at it lost money and thought this is too expensive i quit so that was another of it. But you're always going to have new suckers coming in to play games, right? So if poker maintained its profile, it could still be a big game today. I mean, the World Series of Poker should be like the World Cup of poker and people should be tuning in and watching it, but they paywalled it. The other problem is, I have never seen slower play than I saw at this World Series. Every single decision, the guys are sitting there completely motionless for two or three minutes and then making what is

a very obvious play like this, pretty much the only play they've got a lot of the time. Very occasionally they'll mix it up, but they're just milking the time. It's called tanking. They tank on every decision. And by the end of it, the World Series of Poker commentators were losing their minds and trying to come up with ways to speed up poker. They were like, this is awful.

Why are they doing this? They should have a clock like they do in chess. So they were coming up with all these new things. I guarantee it was not going to happen again next year. These guys were taking the piss. It was so boring. And you'd watch like an hour video on YouTube, like literally an hour video.

And there's guys there with just, both of them have got very little. It's not a particularly big pot and they're sitting there and they're shuffling their chips for like two minutes. There's no table talk. There's no chat.

It was so dull. But there were some great hands. Like it was, there were some great storylines if you just looked at the cards. But if you actually tried to watch the broadcast, it's like the worst game of anything you've ever seen it'd be like watching people play dota where all they did was farm for an hour and then there was one fight and that

settled the whole thing it was like the it was like the old school version of dota where that was what happened so it was like that with poker it was so bad and they've got to do something about it get poker out from behind a paywall so people can watch it and speed this shit up you want a modern audience to watch this shit why the fuck are the players allowed to spend two or three minutes on every fucking decision and they each do it so if there's three of them in a pop this hand is going to take forever it was all if they want to if they want a modern audience to watch it they need to do a poker battle royale and when you're out you actually get killed and you're dead and And you have player numbers and stuff,

and the people who sort of ring fence or control the game have to wear bright, colorful costumes with masks and stuff like that. This is a great original idea. I've got tons of original ideas. Anytime you want, just ask me, and I'll... It's like a Black Mirror episode. Yeah, I like that. I mean, then I understand them tanking a little bit about these decisions. want just ask me and i'll i can it's like a black mirror yeah yeah i like that yeah the highest i

mean then i understand them tanking a little bit in this game the stakes are really high because you can die you know that that can be like the tagline for the poker tournament you call it quid game yeah that's good i like that but no a modern audience will uh will love that though right well you think so it all should have been on Twitch. It should have been much more accessible. But they didn't. They fucked it. Because the people that run these casinos and run these tournaments are fucking ancient.

And they see a chance to make a teeny bit of money, and they take it, rather than thinking about the long game. They're like that fucking guy. You want streaming table? You want streaming table? He's like that, guys. I mean, they're all like that. But at least he was trying to think. Like, he was trying to modernize and come up with cool stuff.

He just had no idea what he was talking about. These guys have no idea what they're talking about and are not trying to do anything. They're not listening. They're not looking for ideas. Nothing. They're literally playing it like, I assume these guys have been working in casinos since the 70s.

So in their mind, you know, that's not how you do it yeah and it's just like it's moronic they're set in their ways yeah they don't want to talking about the past i've been watching for just completely by chance i watched three 80s action movies in the last week i know i know what you're gonna say i know what you're gonna say you're gonna talk about lethal weapon i'm gonna talk about lethal weapon i don't know how you guessed that man i'd say because i because i wish that i was watching lethal weapon as well i'm not sure why i'm not like i loved it yeah it was great but there was a moment in there that i was not prepared for and it kind of jumped out at me as i look i don't think of the 80s as being that dated for some reason i know my daughter said to me dad that was like 40 years ago and i was yeah yeah that's fair but you know it it doesn't

feel as dated as like stuff from the 50s and the 60s in terms of attitude some stuff really still holds up but i'm wondering where this is going not so much it really depends i mean in terms of dated i'm not saying like the effects are dated. For example, we watched Aliens. We got the kids to watch Aliens. They loved it. I was like, girls, this is an 18, but it's mainly just an 18 because there's a little bit of violence in it. It's actually not that gory.

It's not mega violent. It's not that bad. I think it's more like... It's got cussing in it. It's got a bit of cussing and also it's tense, right? Like you're... It is tense, yeah. But it's a great film. I's got a bit of cussing and also it's it's tense right like you're it is tense yeah but it's a great film i love that film oh yeah it was very scary when i watched it yeah when i was a kid and saw it i was fucking shit scared terrifying yeah but we we got them to

watch a few movies when we were on holiday in the evenings we'd watch a movie and we were like we think you guys are ready to watch aliens oh my god they were so excited because it was like a proper alien or aliens aliens alien i think would be too scary because i'm scared of that alien alien is scary alien resurrection was scary for different reasons yeah scary that it cost that much money and i was waiting that long for another weaver might have had sex with the alien as well, which is a bit weird. Yeah, pretty fucking weird. But so there's a line in Lethal Weapon, there are two lines that I thought,

okay, this actually is older than I thought because you wouldn't get that these days. They're discussing, so let me set the scene. For anyone that hasn't seen Lethal Weapon and to jog the memory of the elderly like me that have seen it and might have forgotten, it opens with a girl, Amanda Hunsaker, falling off a balcony because she's taken a load of drugs and she thinks she can fly.

And she falls off this balcony and lands on a car. And that's the opening scene of the film. Yeah. And they talk to this Dixie, who's this other prostitute that they see at the scene and she tells him what happened. And they discussing what happened. This is Riggs and Murtaugh discussing what it was.

And they say, maybe Amanda wasn't having sex um mertor says maybe amanda wasn't having sex with a man maybe she was having sex with another woman and riggs this is mel gibson the hero of the movie says disgusting but okay like disgusting yeah i thought that was like just he's talking about two women having sex and he says the word he opts for is disgusting well you gotta remember 1986 yeah but in the 80s homosexuality was not not mainstream and not accepted right like it's still it still had a ways to go right it was like in the 90s it was getting a bit better but it was still like if you remember shows like saturday night live they would make jokes about it constantly like yeah that's pretty amazing jokes about it and stuff and it was really for him to go it takes all sorts of something you know but for him to say disgusting yeah and for that to come out of the hero's mouth i thought wow that is incredible i know but you got to remember

that the demographic for these movies at the time, 80s action movies, was probably, you know, people that fought in the Vietnam War and the Korean War. No, the market was all of us. It was everybody. No, it was. But it was just such a different time. You know what I mean? Like, you look back on that now and I agree. It's like, what the hell? But at the time, there was either not as much thought put into it at all,

or it was trying to appeal to the demographics of the time as well, right? Which would have been probably middle-aged men, realistically. I don't think it was middle-aged men. This was a blockbuster movie. I think it was meant to appeal to everybody from the age of 18 up, genuinely. I don't think they

were like our market here is 50 year old vietnam vets i just think that no no that was seen as no big deal in the 80s and people wouldn't go wow did he just say that if if can you imagine chris pratt in a movie now like fucking guardians of the galaxy and they're talking about two lesbians he goes disgusting but you have no nobody picks him No, but you have no context for it at the time. He may well have said something in a movie right now that we don't even bat an eyelid to. Exactly. And in 30 years time, it's going to be problematic.

Like we have no idea, you know, and that's the same with this stuff. It is weird for sure. The other thing I don't get, and this is also what surprised me, is men have always enjoyed watching quote-unquote lesbian porn Like not actual lesbians having sex with two women pretend to be lesbian since

Look at this picture. Oh, man. Pamela Anderson kissing sexy woman. He didn't just go, he didn't comment on it like, oh, that's unusual. He's disgusting. Oh, yeah. I don't think, like, if we're talking about the target demographic, I think they'd be thinking, no, that sounds pretty hot, dude,

because both the women involved were hot, right? Amanda Hunsaker's hot and Dixie was hot. So you're watching two hot women have sex, and that is disgusting to Mel Gibson. Also, there's a line where Myrtle tries to put out a fire on Riggs' back and he shouts at him, what are you, a fag? Yeah.

And pushes him off. Wow. Do you think this is ad-libbed or do you think this is written? No, I think this is scripted. Do you think Mel put those in? He's put them in. Because he's quite religious though, Mel, isn't he?

He's put them in after for sure. He's a super Catholic. He's one of those guys with the what do they call them they put a band around their thigh and they tighten it up and it hurts them all day to remind them of jesus's sacrifice i believe right it's like i can't remember what particular sect but several members of the of our government were uh or are uh parts of this sort of catholic leg thing um where they sort of basically they're like flagellants for the 21st century um so yeah he's one of those guys and he's a massive anti-semite and a piece of shit um yeah also exactly also had like a massive massive problems with alcoholism

as well remember some of those awkward interviews where people tried to ask him about it and he's like i didn't come here to talk about that. Actually, I'm here to talk about my movie and all this. I'm here to talk about that time I used the N-word and was anti-Semitic. I beat my girlfriend. I'm here to talk about those things I did that were shitty. It's like, come on. He's a shitty guy. I don't know why he's still doing stuff.

He's not even doing anything anymore, is he? Oh, he is. Yeah, yeah. He's in a bunch of movies. Oh, right. Go ahead and look him up. He's a fucking lethal weapon in the works for christ's christ no he's he's sort of transitioned to direct lethal weapon five that was in the news two days ago i did not realize i thought he was just like i thought people just sort of like preemptively canceled him for like the modern day you know like just based on his past he's still i mean what i get it like

there's this there's two different things right one is when you have someone like don draper being of his time and using that to either using the nasty things he says to put him in his time or make him a bad character yeah right like if a nasty character says nasty things that's okay in a sense because it it's him it's the character saying them right not the heroes not the guy that we aspire to be i get it right and so it's like this is what you don't do because this is what the bad guy does when it's the hero there's a different and i i'm surprised as late as the i mean i guess it was just a socially conservative time,

the late eighties, especially there was a lot of response to, I don't know, punk and all that, you know, it was after it was sort of that time, wasn't it? You know,

it was of kind of, but I don't know, just, yeah, I am surprised as well that, I mean, I knew there was a little bit of homophobia in Seinfeld and friends. There's a lot in,

in a lot of like, uh, the sort of popular movies of the 80s. It was, there was definitely, like, undertones. And going into the 90s, too, I remember for sure. Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, I know, it's weird, isn't it? You don't remember these things, though.

Because I think at the time, like I was saying, you don't take stock of them, you know? It was weird. Because there was a lot of controversy over the Fawlty Towers episode of the Germans where the Major, who is this old fossil, is saying the N-word casually, I think. So he is meant to be an ancient relic.

I can remember the exact episode because I remember it as a kid thinking, blimey, but he says that. I'm not going to repeat what he says. You could go ahead and Google it if you want. But his character is meant to be exactly that guy who would say that and not see it as an insult. That's just who he is. And John Cleese sort of rolls his eyes and walks away. And I think John Cleese's point was that just saying the word is not necessarily bad. If the character saying it is either the butt of a joke or you're pointing out what an idiot and an old fossil they are, then them saying it is actually, in a way, you're saying, look at this old relic.

He's saying these things and we're not on board with it. Do you know what I mean? I think it wasn't necessarily called out. It was not. I think if you did it today, you would have to call it out immediately. Of course. Very obviously, right? Not just let it fly, which is obviously sort of what kind of happens in that episode.

And I mean, they make fun of the Irish in that show as well. And like, there's a whole bunch of stuff where they're sort of, you know, they're just being very casually xenophobic and racist. It was the 70s. I mean, that was british television was for the most part yeah was making fun of anybody that wasn't a straight white bloke basically uh and a lot of comedy in the 70s like that and and that that was the the era and i think now we look at it and it seems hopelessly dated but you kind of think by the time of the 80s things have been empowered and it's a bit different but then stuff like that pops up in a major movie and i'm still kind of think by the time of the 80s, things have been empowered and it's a bit different. But then stuff like that pops up in a major movie and I'm still kind of amazed by it.

But the thing is, if you look at 48 Hours, which was another classic 80s action movie, that really kicked off the whole buddy-buddy cop thing, which combined action with good crime sort of central story and the relationship, the core relationship between two cops who are friends or frenemies or whatever and them having to come to terms with this awkward partnership 48 hours started that that whole thing in the 80s that was the one it was eddie murphy movies nick nolte nick nolte yeah i wanted to say nick nolte but nick nolte is a racist sexist piece of shit in that film.

And Eddie Murphy calls him out on it. But Eddie Murphy's character is also, I'm pretty sure he's quite homophobic in the film as well. Well, yeah, I mean, Eddie Murphy made a lot of kind of homophobic jokes in his stand-up and stuff. He did. Again, like of its time, I suppose, but still not like an excuse, I guess. No, no, but it was, I mean, he was on stage. There's a bit he does about mr t yes where he he talks about mr t and he's very jackson and mr all of that and he was the biggest comedian

in the 80s oh yeah and it's like i i just think it's interesting my daughter said to me dad that was eight that was 40 years ago it doesn't feel no it doesn't of course it doesn't you remember all the stuff he was saying about aids in the stand-up as well Like his dick was going to fall off and it was on fire and everything. But that was sort of like common, common sort of jokes, if you like at the time, right? Like it was,

it was, but it's, it's interesting that you say that there are things that we're saying now that we'll think about as being unacceptable. Oh, there is for sure. Like we, it's possible.

You're not, you just, we're pretty careful nowadays. A lot more, a lot more careful but i'm sure that there's going to be further changes in society where you'll look back and you'll be like i can't believe i used to say that like i can't believe i just can't imagine what it could be and find that offensive or whatever no i know but that's the thing you have no you have no concept for it because i wasn't thinking that kind of stuff when i was watching fucking eddie murphy in the 80s doing stand-up or whatever you know what i mean like he was making making

jokes and i was laughing like i didn't think about it at all i didn't think about whether it was going to be everyone will have like a third eye like in their forehead like a google well we'll get cancelled in 2080 because we're having three eyes with glasses four eyes as well that'll be a big problem i'm waiting for my people to get some uh some some some justice oh my god yeah i can't that'll be what it is in 20 years it's gonna be looking back at these old episodes looking at every time lewis called pflax an egg yeah and just like fucking i'm waiting i can't believe lewis called pflax like that's so insensitive and you could see it was hurting period at the time but he was too

professional yeah you know and yeah power dynamic was there where period didn't think he could speak up someone needs to help period out bold too hashtag bold too hashtag no hair we need to think of a good slogan here hashtag we're all bold inside i think with a hashtag i think with a lot i need some marketing i think with a lot of comedy it's like it's it's a lot of it is time and place right like and and some of it ages so poorly, you know, like you look back at and tone. Yeah, for sure. Like I think if you deliver a really bad, awkward, like offensive joke well enough, I think you could trick a lot of people into laughing. Yeah, for sure.

And I think actually I think Norm Macdonald was really good at that. I think Norm Macdonald was really good at that. I mean, I know not everybody likes like like Norm Macdonald's comedy or whatever, but he was very good at delivering sort of jokes that you were like, oh, my God. But he did it in such a funny way. You know what I mean? Like and especially if you look back on some of his comedy, like you can see, you know, at the time, you know, people thought it was very funny. And he still you can still appreciate that it is pretty funny or whatever. But I don't know. Some of the stuff that he was saying in the 90s, he wouldn't get away with now for sure.

But also, some of the stuff he was saying in the 90s meant that he lost his job and stuff at the time too. So it's like a soft cancel at that at the time or whatever like we didn't have the the cancel culture that we have now for sure like back then but to to actually like lose your job on like you know saturday night live or whatever because of some jokes that you made at an award show or allegedly is pretty was a pretty big deal back then right like it just didn't always happen sort of thing so i don't know it's it's it's weird it's it's just so subjective right like uh but like it's not um it's also not it's not fair to just sort of say oh it's you know i find it funny because like if people are actually getting

offended by it and you know some people will say oh that's the point of comedy like some people are just going to get offended and some people aren't or whatever but i i don't know it's such a tricky one right like i kind of hate analyzing it and i hate and i hate watching comedians in cars like uh because i hate how jerry seinfeld analyzes comedy so much like i do think it's interesting his point i'm sure we've talked about it before he said that comedy is the hardest job in the world yeah and i think his point was like i don't think it's hard in the same way that being a firefighter or being a brain surgeon or whatever is hard but there are very few successful comedians compared to most other jobs yeah like it is a very it's very hard to be successful and i think it's very rare that you find people who can go up on stage and make

thousands of strangers laugh and become famous for it yeah continue to write jokes and be funny for years that is that he is right that is rare that is i don't think that makes it a hard job i think that makes it a very unusual job yeah um but to say that it's oh it's the hardest job in the world i think that's ridiculous yeah yeah no it's not clear i i get what he means but like yeah like looking at it from, from like, uh, like that kind of perspective, like, of course it's not the hardest job in the world. Like, you know, also I'm not, I'm not lying. Seinfeld.

I love, but Jerry Seinfeld standup. Has anyone ever really found it that funny? I mean, like genuinely I've watched his specials. I've watched his stuff. I'm sorry, but it's just not that it's very, very of its time. It is like the idea of its time. It is. Like the idea of observational comedy, like you watch it now,

it's like, he's just talking about, like it's all the jokes about, what about airline food? It's like, that's all a riff on Jerry Seinfeld's stuff. Yeah, of course. But like,

and you're right, it's of its time. That was a whole thing. They even joke about it in Seinfeld. Yeah. Jerry even jokes about how all the comics are doing observational comedy. Yeah. He's not,

you know, the best at it anymore. Yeah. Like that was that's inside phil i don't know you gotta there's there's so many aspects to it too like when i was watching seinfeld i was a kid you know i was like in my my early to mid-teens when seinfeld was sort of at its height watching it every thursday prime time when it was on tv stuff. But as funny as I found it, there was a large part of it that was like, you had to watch it because that's how you fit in the next day at school and stuff too, right? Oh, I don't know. That is still a great show. No, it is for sure. I'm not saying that it's not at all a great show, but there's multiple things going on there, right? Like, especially when something is at its peak, at its prime.

There's a lot of people will be watching it and not taking too much stock of it because they just want to remember the really memorable lines so that they could just, you know, the next day at school or at work or whatever, be like, and then when he said this and stuff, you know what I mean? Like, there's all sorts of stuff that goes into it but very much of its time you know in a lot of cases too you know like for sure yeah gentlemen the holidays have come early thank god manscaped the leading men's hygiene brand has launched some new products for you to use finally new ultra premium body wash and a two-in-one shampoo and conditioner. That's going to make a great stocking stuffer for me. Exactly. It's time to give yourself the gift

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interested in um what is the optimal bedtime hour to reduce the risk of heart attacks and strokes what in children is it people oh man i hope it's i hope it's 2 a.m. Because I'll feel like shit if it isn't. You were right, P-Flax. It was between 10 and 11 p.m. How much leeway? The riskiest time for your heart is after midnight. Because it reduces the likelihood of you seeing morning light, which resets the body clock. Oh, well, I don't have a problem with that.

I see morning light all the time. I just average like three hours a night of sleep. I see. I don't have a problem with that. I see morning light all the time. I just average like three hours a night of sleep. Right, I see. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think you figure it out amongst yourselves. As long as you get six to eight hours, you'll be fine, I think. Oh, I get like six sometimes, yeah.

It's probably fine, right? I feel okay. There was a big auction. We talked about auctions, but there's a big auction this week. Which of the following items fetched the highest price? Was it a dress worn by Amy Winehouse during her final concert? Or an original Apple One computer? Or the volleyball used as a prop from the 2000 film Cast Away with Tom Hanks?

It's got to be between. It's the dress and the prop. Between the dress and the prop between the dress and the prop for sure the computer i don't think so i actually i could be the computer but there must be some of those knocking about there's tons of them still not people will pay a lot of money for a new iphone every year there must be some apple lover out there some some selector or something yeah corporate shit i don't know though because like i'm gonna say i'm gonna say amy winehouse's dress because i remember recently um kurt cobain's cardigan that he wore his cardigan sweater that he wore on the unplugged set you know unplugged in new york or

whatever um sold for like a hundred grand or something like at auction. Yeah, well, the dress did sell for $243,000. There you go. But it was not the most. What? The Apple I sold for $400,000. Oh, that's crazy. There's tons of those things kicking around. No, there's not.

There's only 200 models. They were sold in kits. You had to put them together yourself. Oh, right. And this one had a rare Hawaiian koa wood case added by a california computer retailer so it's like all smooth wood it's very weird looking but the volleyball man sold for 300,000 can you believe it i can't believe it well i mean you know what they say fool me once good for you fool me twice shame on you really really well yeah so gg during the lockdown last year uh lots of people bought um pizza ovens

lots of people bought hot tubs i bought a pizza oven and lots of people bought gaming equipment i bought a soup maker which i've uh i've donated to charity now because we used it one time it was messy as hell yeah exactly it's just like we just went back to making pasta so you were gonna ask which was the biggest seller pizza ovens which no pizza ovens hot tubs are gaming equipment which one do britain's most regret buying i'm gonna say hot tub it's gotta be i'm gonna say hot tub no i'm gonna say hot tub takes up the most room costs a fortune to run those things you gotta yeah but the one or two times that you use it it's fucking fun like i'm gonna be honest with you i'm gonna say fucking hot tub all day long well it turns out out of the 4 000

people surveyed half of them regretted buying a gaming console that's outrageous that just shows how bad the gaming consoles are they're the best value for money gaming console for sure right like they're not so gamers man i i do it well they're idiots aren't they that's why they're all idiots console gamers if you're listening to this right now and you're a console gamer you're an idiot okay but realistically though you get a console there's games that you can get for free on all the shops like playstation store xbox store whatever nintendo store there's like there's so much value you can get out of it i can't believe that anybody would regret buying you know unless they're not true gamers i know what it is i know what it is this is this is the same shit i get from people

whenever i talk about video games to my normie friends it's always the same it's like yeah i know i loved it i just took it's just ate up so much of my time i had to get rid of it oh wait a minute wait a minute you bought something you were getting a ton of enjoyment out of it and it was wasting your time what are you doing instead what are you doing instead give me a fucking run down i got married i had a wife i used to have sex with her but it was taking i was enjoying it too much so i had to get rid of her i had to get rid of it take it up too much hanging up fucking stupid pictures in your house because you're henpecked that's why right you just don't have any fucking what is this the 80s yeah yeah i'm bringing it all back i had a lovely i have a lovely picture of a monet in my in my living room but i had to chuck it in the skip because

i like looking at it too much it was just too nice what fuck off it's such a dumb thing i know but uh it turns out pete a lot of people did buy hot tubs and the insurance companies noticed accidental claims of damage from parasols crashing into the birds pecking holes. Oh, that increased three times. And fire pits and pizza ovens, of course, a 20 percent rise in fires. Right. So, yeah, be careful with your shed burning down due to a pizza oven outside. be careful um with your shed burning down due to a pizza oven outside oh i'm luckily i haven't got a shed oh man i needed to get one but uh we've got a thing around the side of the house we use a word of warning yeah you can have mice uh that uh like like to colonize your shed you know like so if you leave a lot of junk in your shed like we do like we had old picnic blankets and stuff

in there we went in one one summer to clean it out and all the picnic blankets had just been shredded and used as bedding by mice and shit like it was they were loving it they were having a great time just imagine filming that they would that would be great and they were like you're like they were like the sylvanian mice too you know like they had their little sewing kits out they were quilting fucking blankets and making cars they had a whole city in there it's fucking awesome i i loved sylvanian family stuff so then you got your cigar and you stood on the balcony and you watched them in their little workshop of course i did yeah my kids got into sylvanian i watched them on

closed circuit uh monitor from my my smoking basement that i uh yeah yeah right yeah do your kids have sylvanian families sips uh my daughter has like a couple of them they're it's it's one of those toys that is really appealing in its packaging you go to the store and they they're always like displayed really nicely the little sets are really intricate and detailed they look really good they're expensive as fuck so expensive and uh and like my daughter likes like some of it but not all of it like she bought like the the little ice cream stand she liked that one and there's like a little green grocer one that she liked but not not overly no like no she doesn't go mad in for it she's more

into like she's really into my little ponies like lots of my little ponies so my kids were into it and we we skirted around the the cost issue by going onto eBay. Oh, yeah. You can buy boxes of fucking mixed Sylvanian family stuff much cheaper. Good God. And then it has really good resale value because there's always people selling these giant boxes. So you can pretty much sell it for what you got it for. We ended up giving it to a friend who had a kid that loved Sylvanian families and was a good few years younger than my youngest. Right.

So we were like, you know, let's give it to them because they love it. I genuinely think I love the Sylvanian family stuff more than my kids. For some reason, I love the little otters. Yeah, I like the... The little, you know, animal people. They were so cute. I loved them. I was like, I want to play with this stuff and lay them out in like a proper town and take pictures. Oh, yeah. I'm like that with playmobil

um and disgusting the thing with playmobil is that i was too old to play with it but like by the time it really caught on and my brother had tons of it and i was always like my brother would have like all these cool sets and i would secretly play with it sort of thing like uh like you know after he'd gone to bed and stuff and for whatever reason it was always just like this thing i really like the sets the detail and stuff like that and so like anytime we're at the toy store now my kids are like you know looking at the playmobil i'm like oh yeah let's get that one and they're like they just want to get like other stuff they don't really like playmobil i just love the idea of the sylvanian families just playing around on on you like like like you being like the you wanted to come alive and use your

for the sylvanian family it's like there's a hill that's a weird that's a weird fantasy okay imagine the moment they came to life though they were just actual real rats and mice though and they stunk and they were like nibbling everything and they weren't doing the things you'd expect them to do. Some of these animals are predators for some of the other animals. Yeah, I know. But like, you know what I mean? Like, imagine the moment they became like alive. They didn't do what you expected them to, you know?

You'd expect them to be like, hello, mommy. I've soon you a quilt and stuff like that. But they're not. They're just like... Screeching and fucking shitting everywhere. You've put Mr. Fox and his family right next to Mr. and Mrs. Chicken and their kids. And they're looking at the next door neighbors nervously. Idiots.

We need to move. Oh, fuck's sake. I got one more piece of news for you. Okay, one more piece of news. Let's do it. Oh, fuck's sake. I got one more piece of news for you. Okay, one more piece of news. Let's do it. Okay, yeah. So some news from Japan this week. Here we go.

There was a Japanese train driver who was docked pay for causing a one-minute delay to a train. I thought it was going to be something like there was delays on the line because he was legally marrying his train or something like that. No. But he sued the employer claiming mental anguish over being docked pay because it really stressed him out. Question for you is how many passengers were affected by the incident? Was it none as the train was empty or the 56 passengers on the train or 14,000 people for causing delays. I'm going to say none. Empty train.

Sips. I'm going to say none. Empty train as well. It was an empty train. Wow. He went to the wrong platform and they docked his pay 55 pence. So 50 pence. 55 English P.

Oh, my God. How many? How many yen does that work out to be? 85 yen. Right. Not very much. What can you out to 85 yen right not what can you buy with 85 yen nowadays back in my day probably 85 yen went a long way you could go you could buy two sodas at the cinema and a large popcorn i earned three in a month and your mother and i bought a house for seven yen i just saved us for three months.

That's when I was a technician at the bowling alley, which I retired from. Anyway, he got upset because it stressed him out and he refused to accept his reduced pay and sued them for ¥56 in unpaid wages. I thought you said it was ¥55, so he sued for an additional one. Well, he was docked to ¥85, but he's suing them for 56 yen uh well that's more wages i thought you said it was 55 so he sued well he was docked 85 years but he's suing them for 56 years well that's so i don't know maybe he feels like he shouldn't have been yeah he feels like he should have been docked something but in fact

not as much as well if he has a contract you know and they docked his pay in line with working practices he hasn't got a leg he's also suinging them for 2.2 million yen in damages for mid-playing. Oh, right, of course, yeah. That's enough to at least go out for a fancy, a slap-up feed. What can you get with 2.2 million yen nowadays? Because back in my day, 2.2... Let's do yen to pounds. It's 14,000 pounds.

Oh, 14 grand. What can you get for 14 grand nowadays like a whole bunch of stuff pretty decent secondhand car i guess like a 20 like a 20 you could get like a 2018 like a like a secondhand 2018 mercedes or something probably for like mcgann 14 yeah sure and pay for a year of university well what's your um i had an email an email this is going back a few episodes uh been meaning to drop you a line this is from tom uh been meaning to drop you a line since you had a rant on the state of the british film industry so he's been working in the industry in the uk for 10 years he's worked on about 15 big budget movies he said there's more

going on in film now than i've ever seen before right usually i'll have a couple of months a year fallow between jobs but since the first lockdown it's been non-stop and even more queued up there is more investment in film studios both developing older ones building entirely new ones than in decades and not a single one of the projects i've ever worked on or i'm currently aware of in expansions is british netflix has been buying long-term leases in all these studios long cross shepperton they're looking to massive expansion to the UK. Disney's got a lease on Pinewood. Warner Brothers own Leavesden.

And they're employing all these people. They're paying good wages. The British film industry, from the actors all the way down to the tea lady, I'm assuming, are very, very good at what they do. There's a lot of experience, a lot of talent there. But all of that money goes straight out to the Yanks who own all this stuff. Yeah. He says, as to what British projects still exist, I think the best example in recent memory is the Cornetto trilogy, which was one of the dead, hot fuzz.

And what was the other one? World's End. World's End. Yeah. I never saw that. But even then, these were mostly American production companies with some French mixed in. Bond is still produced by Eon but also several american companies the path the only path forward for us i can see is for british actors to band together and set up new production companies as some american actors have been doing anyways thought

i'd let you know as an industry insider i think everything you said is on point something my colleagues and i have also noticed kind regards from me and my tiny penis no and then he also amazing he also sent me uh that he complained uh check out the reception building a picture of a picture of pamela anderson no thank you thank you tom he complained about driving in and out of pinewood studios uh the entrance is all fucked up and you got to go in a mini roundabout and it's a nightmare so i just thought it was funny that that was a very british complaint at the end complaining about the roundabouts. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah. You have to round off a bit of that chat, don't you?

Yeah, you do, yeah. Good stuff. Well, thanks to you for listening, everyone. We'll see you next time. Until then, goodbye. Peace. Bye.